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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travison buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We got

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Speaker 1: three hours of fun coming your way. A little bit

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Speaker 1: of a roadmap for where we're headed. Jim Jordan, Congressman

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Speaker 1: from Ohio in the middle of these hearings on the

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Speaker 1: origins of COVID and more, also the Twitter files, He's

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Speaker 1: going to join us at twelve thirty. I think you'll

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Speaker 1: probably want to get your popcorn for that. But the

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Speaker 1: fallout continues from the release of more January six tapes,

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Speaker 1: the continued interviews that are coming out of Tucker Carlson Show.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we played you Senator Chuck Schumer taking to the

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Speaker 1: Senate floor to demand that Rupert Murdoch and Fox News

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Speaker 1: not allow Tucker Carlson to air these videos, which is

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable moment in government censorship when you have the

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Speaker 1: majority leader of the Senate, Chuck Schumer of New York,

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Speaker 1: demanding that Rupert Murdoch, who owns a private business, not

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Speaker 1: allow his Fox News organization to share accurate video that

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Speaker 1: is the people's property. From inside of the capital surrounding

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Speaker 1: January sixth, which is one of the biggest media events

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Speaker 1: in Democrat history. In fact, according to Democrats, what happened

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Speaker 1: on January sixth, then buck I cannot believe that they

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Speaker 1: continue to say this, but they have gone all in

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Speaker 1: with the talking point that January sixth is the most

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Speaker 1: dangerous day in America since the Civil War. Not nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven, not World War two, not World War One,

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Speaker 1: not frankly, any number of more dangerous moments in our

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Speaker 1: nation's history, but a two hour window where virtually no

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Speaker 1: one was armed and most people entered in and behaved

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Speaker 1: peacefully in the Capitol, they might have trespassed, that this

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Speaker 1: is actually the most dangerous moment since the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: And if you think I'm exaggerating, this is literally what

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Speaker 1: Karin Jean Pierre said yesterday in the White House Press Briefing. Listen.

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Speaker 1: He said the mob was orderly in league and that

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Speaker 1: they were tourists instead of insurrectionists. What's your response to

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Speaker 1: Carlson and to Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who granted them access

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Speaker 1: to that video. Anybody who watched that video would strongly disagree.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who watched that video with their own eyes in

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Speaker 1: a real way and saw what happened on that day,

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Speaker 1: would disagree with what was just stated. The President has

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Speaker 1: been very clear, January sixth was the worst attack on

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Speaker 1: our democracy since the Civil War, and we should be

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Speaker 1: focused on making sure that never happens again. Buck, this

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Speaker 1: is crazy. So notice the attack on our democracy the

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Speaker 1: turn of phrase that has always used here, because if

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Speaker 1: they said the worst attack on America, that is just

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Speaker 1: completely insane, right, I mean, because they said since the

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Speaker 1: Civil War, not even the worst attack on America since

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Let's say the worst attacks since the

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Speaker 1: Civil War. So you're saying Pearl Harbor nothing compared to

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Speaker 1: the people we saw walking around taking selfies and yes,

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Speaker 1: people who are shoving and pushing a cops. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to any Democrats whine about

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Speaker 1: how awful it was with the cops were put through

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Speaker 1: months of police officers. It was official policy, or rather

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Speaker 1: the official plan, i should say, of Antifa out in Portland,

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Speaker 1: They were trying to do that. It was official of

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Speaker 1: tactic and procedure, or rather the common tactic and procedure

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Speaker 1: of some of these BLM and antifariot groups all through

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Speaker 1: the summer to throw bottles of urine, bricks, rocks, there

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Speaker 1: were even there were there were shots fired at some

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Speaker 1: of the BLM riots, and cops, as you could see,

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Speaker 1: would regularly have to engage in physical confrontation at the

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Speaker 1: riots that broke out the summer in twenty twenty. The

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Speaker 1: only time that I can think of in the last

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Speaker 1: decade that Democrats have been upset about the violence that

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Speaker 1: police officers face from a mob is January sixth. You're right.

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Speaker 1: Every other time, it's hey, this is just democracy in action, man,

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Speaker 1: This is just BLM is about justice, about social justice

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Speaker 1: and racial equity and all this other stuff. They weren't

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Speaker 1: complaining about what was happening. There were officers injured, there

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Speaker 1: was billions of dollars of damage done. You know. They

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Speaker 1: also made a huge effort to try to separate out

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Speaker 1: the five the officers five officers killed in Dallas back

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Speaker 1: under the Obama administration by the first BLM version right

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Speaker 1: know it's completely situational ethics from Democrats and even just

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Speaker 1: the way they use these terms the attack on our democracy, Well,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the intelligence community, the CIA, the Democrat

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Speaker 1: media all aligned in a lie that even uses through

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Speaker 1: to try a soft who against Donald Trump in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: isn't that Isn't that a big attack on our democracy?

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Speaker 1: They tried to undo the election with a huge lie,

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Speaker 1: and they use FISA for having's sake to do it,

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Speaker 1: and we're supposed to forget about that. Clay Buck, what

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear from Democrats this two hours

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Speaker 1: of trespassing. In what way did these individuals come close

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Speaker 1: ever answer. And I think it's important again to reiterate

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Speaker 1: everyone who protests and breaks the law, regardless of their politics,

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Speaker 1: should be prosecuted, which is what you and I have

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Speaker 1: argued since the George Floyd protests started in May. Your

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Speaker 1: whether you're Republican, Democrat, independent, whatever your political motivations are,

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Speaker 1: they're unacceptable. Right, don't break the law. We haven't changed

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Speaker 1: one bit. I mean from the very getting from the

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Speaker 1: day of Clay. The people who are there protesting, God

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Speaker 1: bless them. They were upset about the election. They think

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Speaker 1: bad things happened. The people who obeyed the law, God

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Speaker 1: bless them. There's no there's nothing wrong with that. That's

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Speaker 1: to be celebrated. People that broke the law through and

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Speaker 1: I'm not now now there there there are three categories here, right,

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Speaker 1: there was entirely within the scope of the law, which

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Speaker 1: know what the percentage would be, but ninety eight percent

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Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, those are just people that are

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Speaker 1: exercising their First Amendment rights as American as you're going

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Speaker 1: and no issues there at all. Right. Then you have

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Speaker 1: the people who walked in didn't really know, and that's

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Speaker 1: what you see on these videos. Cops are kind of

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Speaker 1: waving them in. They didn't attack anybody, they didn't do

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the cops are kind of parting

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Speaker 1: walking around. They're being treated like domestic rorists. But when

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Speaker 1: only do you break the law which is wrong, you

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Speaker 1: obvious because here we are to this day still having

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Speaker 1: way that they were talking about it as an insurrection,

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Speaker 1: but it was effective politics. And so that's why Kari

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Speaker 1: Jean Pierre continues to lie and say that, well it's

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Speaker 1: not Is it a lie? No? Is it insane to

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Speaker 1: the Civil War? Yeah, it's a crazy statement because nine

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Speaker 1: overthrow America to the best of their ability. So look,

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Speaker 1: on now, Okay, it was two hours of rioting, looting, pillaging,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, A tiny pinprick of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that BLM did. In what way was it an

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Speaker 1: an attack on democracy, there have to be casualties. The

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Speaker 1: only casualty that day was Ashley Babbot and an armed protester.

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Speaker 1: There have to be lots of weapons, right, what was

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Speaker 1: used in a violent fashion inside of the capital. And

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Speaker 1: there has to be a goal, right, Like what was

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Speaker 1: the goal of jan six Like? What did people accomplish?

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Speaker 1: And what could they have ever accomplished? These are things

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Speaker 1: This is the constant defense principle. Unfortunately, in action, the

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Speaker 1: constantly on defense principle which was applied to the Trump

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Speaker 1: we have to sit here and spend time saying they're exaggerating,

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Speaker 1: be written by AOC and Bernie Sanders, because Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: You know, this whole routine as some kind of facade,

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Speaker 1: But we don't get to talk about that. We end

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Speaker 1: I think on the one hand, their exaggerations are it's

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Speaker 1: as an accomplishment. Then the other side of it, they're

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Speaker 1: cycle coming up, and every moment that we're talking about

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Speaker 1: January sixth wasn't and we're not talking to this audience,

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Speaker 1: or this audience already knows it was an insurrection. Trying

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Speaker 1: the problem we face. I do think Tucker's playing a

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Speaker 1: why would they change their position Because doctor Fauci, the

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Speaker 1: highest paid guy in our government, been in our government

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Speaker 1: like a thousand years, hands out all this money, billies

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Speaker 1: and millions of dollars. They wanted the grant money, and

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Speaker 1: they got nine million dollars for changing their tomb. That

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Speaker 1: is sick, but our government did that. I'm one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent convinced of it. Speaking to Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio, Congressman,

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Speaker 1: what are you hoping to get out of these hearings.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are some of the areas because for

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Speaker 1: me at this point, yeah, it's important for accountability and

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Speaker 1: just to get the facts on the record. But are

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Speaker 1: there areas that you're chasing down or hoping to get

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Speaker 1: to where you think we could get some new information

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Speaker 1: about just all of the fauciite lunacy from lab leak

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Speaker 1: to vaccine mandates and everything in between. Questions, Great question, buck.

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Speaker 1: We're a legislative body, We're the Congress, So our job

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Speaker 1: is to get facts on the table, proposed legislation, and

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Speaker 1: then if we have to use the appropriation process to

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Speaker 1: further influence these agencies that we're doing stupid things. So

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Speaker 1: that is how this works. So the first to do

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Speaker 1: is get the facts on the table, continue to that,

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Speaker 1: continue to expose everything that went on, and then say, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let's have a bill that says we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing gain a function research. Let's do that.

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Speaker 1: Let's pack that legislation. And oh, by the way, we

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Speaker 1: think maybe some of the funds that went to some

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Speaker 1: of these people who were involved, maybe we should change

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Speaker 1: how those funds are appropriated and where they go and

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Speaker 1: what they're used for. That's our job, and we need

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Speaker 1: to spell that all out. But in order to lay

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Speaker 1: the groundwork and the framework, you first get the facts

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Speaker 1: on this. That's what we're doing in the Judiciary Committee

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Speaker 1: with the weapon is the Select Committee and the full

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Speaker 1: JUI Judiciary Committee with this attack by the agencies on

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Speaker 1: the very people they're supposed to serve. And we had

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Speaker 1: a great example, by the way yesterday, I mean I

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Speaker 1: just changed in it, but yesterday the FTCY must took

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Speaker 1: over Twitter. The FTC send him a letter after eleven

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Speaker 1: days after the first Twitter file, they send a letter

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Speaker 1: to Elon Musk and Twitter and said and said, think

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Speaker 1: about eleven days later, they say, who are the journalists

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Speaker 1: you're talking to? They named for journalists personally. Now, if

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Speaker 1: that is not a direct assault on the first of

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Speaker 1: them at freedom of the press, I don't know what is.

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Speaker 1: This is what's going on. So step one again is

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Speaker 1: get the facts on the table so we can propose

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Speaker 1: legislation and then use the appropriation process to limit what

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Speaker 1: these agencies, out of control agencies are doing. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I was going to ask you. Next congressman. We're

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Speaker 1: talking to Jim Jordan, a congressman from Ohio. So the

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Speaker 1: FTC is coming after Elon Musk. Also, I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: saw Chuck Schumer went on the floor of the Senate

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Speaker 1: and demanded that Rupert Murdoch's censor what Tucker Carlson was

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Speaker 1: able to say on his show, take it outside of politics.

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Speaker 1: You know this, You've been in politics for a while.

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Speaker 1: If any Republican did what the Biden administration is doing

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Speaker 1: and what the Senate Majority leader is doing, like if

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Speaker 1: you went on the floor and said, there's no way

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Speaker 1: MSNBC should be able to show any of these videos

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Speaker 1: from January six, I'm demanding that whoever owns MSNBC, I

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Speaker 1: guess Comcast, right, I'm not even sure who owns MSNBC honestly,

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Speaker 1: that they not allow this to be aired. It would

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Speaker 1: be the number one story in America and you would be,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically a book burner. Yet Schumer does it,

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Speaker 1: and the FTC does it, and these same people say

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Speaker 1: virtually nothing. Yeah, Chuck Schumer, the same guy stood on

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Speaker 1: the steps of the Supreme Court and said, Cavanaugh of door,

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Speaker 1: since you will face the whirlwind. Chuck Schumer yesterday says

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Speaker 1: to Rupert Murdoch, take this stuff that don't let them,

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Speaker 1: don't let Fox air. And it's I think it's also

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Speaker 1: somewhat ironic that that same day he's doing that's the

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Speaker 1: day we learned that the FTC is targeted. Elon musk

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Speaker 1: All this yes, this is and and this is why

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Speaker 1: American people, the American people who pay their salaries, who

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Speaker 1: that that is what's so wrong. And you're one hunder right.

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Speaker 1: If this is a Republicans doing this, Oh, it's the

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Speaker 1: outrage the New York Times, you know, democracy dies in darkness,

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Speaker 1: they would be going like crazy on this. Now it's

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Speaker 1: it's funny because it was from page of the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal, the FTC story, So the journals day, the

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Speaker 1: you know, even though we're liberals, this is pretty bad

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Speaker 1: are testifying tomorrow in the Select Committee on the Weaponization

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Speaker 1: of Government. Hey, that's good timing for you guys. Guy

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Speaker 1: we're having his witness yeah, for sure. Congres and Jordan

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us, Sir, Thanks so much you

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Speaker 1: bad guys. Thanks Jim Jordan. Keep up the good work there.

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Speaker 1: And it is fascinating to think about where we're headed.

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Speaker 1: But what we know is in the past. One of

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Speaker 1: with Clay Buck podcast, Welcome back to clay Anne Buck.

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Speaker 1: In the next hour, we're gonna be talking to you

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Speaker 1: about this crazy idea that they've played out in they've

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Speaker 1: seen through in New York City. If you have a

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Speaker 1: place where there's a lot of crime happening, and you

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Speaker 1: put more cops in that place and tell them, hey,

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Speaker 1: enforce the law, arrest people who break the law, who

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Speaker 1: are supposed to be arrested under the law, this crazy

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Speaker 1: thing happens. The crime level starts to go down there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who democrats for them? This is apparently like magic.

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Speaker 1: They had no idea how this could happen in a

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Speaker 1: New York City, at least on the subway system, there's

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Speaker 1: some evidence of that. We also want to talk about

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Speaker 1: what's going on in DC and how Democrats are having

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Speaker 1: to wake up to some realities there too. Remember every

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Speaker 1: time we talk about one of these Democrat controlled cities,

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Speaker 1: similar situation in all of them right now, with very

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Speaker 1: very few exceptions. I'm not even sure there are any

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Speaker 1: notable exceptions in terms of large cities that have been

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Speaker 1: able to buck the trend. Well done, which is a

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Speaker 1: phrase that I yes, and I employ doctor Fauci. By

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Speaker 1: the way, on the lab leak, I just want everyone

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Speaker 1: to hear how Fouch he become. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: fascinating case study, Clay. How does this guy who is still,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately for me, the most famous alumni from my high school,

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Speaker 1: how does he manage to be in the federal bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: for fifty years, become the highest paid person in the

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Speaker 1: federal bureaucracy and never really have any achievement or be

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Speaker 1: impressive in any way because he understands the system and

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Speaker 1: he knows how to play both sides one he has to.

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Speaker 1: So when little Fouch is asked about the Energy Department

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Speaker 1: and FBI assessmence about the lab league theory, here's what

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Speaker 1: he has to say, play one or the FBI and

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Speaker 1: Energy Department. Right about the lab league, Well, it's very

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Speaker 1: tough to tell that because they're talking about information that

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Speaker 1: they have that we don't have Privy two, so we

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Speaker 1: don't really know. They have made opinions on low confidence

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Speaker 1: from the Department of Energy and moderate confidence I believe

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Speaker 1: from the FBI. So I don't think there's a really

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Speaker 1: correct and verifiable answer to your question. It's just still

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Speaker 1: remains unknown at this particular point. There are two theories,

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Speaker 1: as Woll familiar with now. One is a lab leaque theory.

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Speaker 1: The other is that it was a natural occurrence from

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Speaker 1: an animal spill over. The one thing is that we

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Speaker 1: have to keep an open mind about this until there's

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Speaker 1: definitive evidence. Oh he wants an open mind. We went

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Speaker 1: from shut up, we have all the data we need.

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Speaker 1: We need you to shut your face peasants and put

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Speaker 1: your mask over it too. Well, now, the various branches

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Speaker 1: of the federal government are at a load to medium

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Speaker 1: low kind of like how I like my filet mignall

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Speaker 1: to be cooked. A load of medium rare kind of

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Speaker 1: level of confidence from I mean, Clay, we're basically saying,

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Speaker 1: now we're never gonna know, and we're supposed to forget that.

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Speaker 1: He was telling us, Oh, we know, wouldn't they find

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Speaker 1: the animal? Like, this is the thing that I don't

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Speaker 1: understand and about the leak from an animal to human.

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Speaker 1: They searched hot, far and wide, as my understanding, although

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Speaker 1: it might have been the Chinese search akin to O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson looking for the real killers, I don't know. When

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Speaker 1: you know that what you're looking for doesn't exist, it

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Speaker 1: probably cuts off how much time you spend actually looking

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Speaker 1: for it. But if you want me to believe in

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Speaker 1: the animal idea, show me the animal. Like, we know

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Speaker 1: that the Virology Institute in Wuhan was doing gain a

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Speaker 1: function research on coronaviruses that is one hundred percent confirmed,

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Speaker 1: So we know that literally this type of virus was

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Speaker 1: being created in the Chinese labs. So if you're going

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Speaker 1: to argue that it's something other than that, shouldn't you

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Speaker 1: have to provide some evidence of the animal through which

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Speaker 1: COVID made its transmission to humans. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: convince me that the gain of function research didn't work,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like if you were on a jury, Buck

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Speaker 1: and I said, Look, we're not going to have hard

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Speaker 1: and fast evidence here, but circumstantial evidence can add up,

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Speaker 1: which is why I've always loved this example. People say, well,

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Speaker 1: You go to bed at night, you close your blinds,

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Speaker 1: on the ground. As many of you have recently, you

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Speaker 1: woke up the next morning it's on the ground. There

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Speaker 1: are other theories, right, Aliens could have arrived and somehow

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Speaker 1: transported snow to your like, Right, but the reasonable circumstantial

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Speaker 1: evidence would suggest it snowed while you were sleeping. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the reasonable circumstantial evidence here. If I'm in front of

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Speaker 1: gain a function research tax dollars to a COVID laboratory

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Speaker 1: buck that was doing gain a function research, and then

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Speaker 1: suddenly a coronavirus that was brand new that didn't exist before,

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Speaker 1: showed up right outside the gates. Basically, of this lab.

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Speaker 1: China is a big country. There's no suggestion that COVID

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Speaker 1: happened somewhere not close initially to the lab. Right where's

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Speaker 1: the animal that suddenly happened to get COVID right beside

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Speaker 1: the virology lab where it spread? Like, this is not

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Speaker 1: difficult stuff. So we might not have smoking gun where

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Speaker 1: some Chinese guy comes out and says, hey, I'm the

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Speaker 1: idiot who screwed up and let COVID out of the lab.

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Speaker 1: But China probably knows who it was. Could I just

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Speaker 1: point out one thing also, even before COVID, if someone

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Speaker 1: sat you down and said, hey, do you know that

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Speaker 1: you taxpayer dollars are going to a lab that is

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Speaker 1: run by the Chinese Communist Party in the Wuhan province

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Speaker 1: of China that is messing around with viruses that could

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Speaker 1: make them much more transmissible and lethal. Just FYI, I

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Speaker 1: think it's a what the heck are we doing? Right? Like?

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Speaker 1: How is that not a terrible idea? Never mind the

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Speaker 1: actual pandemic and COVID everything we went through, But you

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Speaker 1: know this is the bureaucracy. Fauci's still sitting there, He's

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Speaker 1: gone from I am certain too. We will never know,

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Speaker 1: and we're supposed to forget that he was the certainty guy.

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Speaker 1: In beginning one hundred, I want everyone to take a guess.

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Speaker 1: How many times has the average murder suspect in DC

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Speaker 1: been arrested in the dish in our nation's capital. Those

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Speaker 1: people who commit murders, how many times they arrested before

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Speaker 1: the murder. We're gonna break that down for you coming

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Speaker 1: up