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Speaker 2: And the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is nick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 3: And the official Dallas Cowboys A.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: Here It is a beautiful Thursday morning in Oxnard, California,

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Speaker 4: at the corner of Ventura and Vineyard, and it is

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Speaker 4: day number three of Cowboy practices. So much hester inspired

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Speaker 4: the last forty eight hours, Bill Jones, the six time

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Speaker 4: pro bowler, Nate Newton, and a bundled up Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 4: who's still trying to get used to the climbs out here.

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Speaker 4: It's actually the sun's breaking through the marine layer.

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Speaker 2: Right right now. Wow.

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Speaker 1: But when I rode my bike in it was cold.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it went from the sun is breaking through

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Speaker 2: the clouds. So now we got the marinet the marine layer, Bill,

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Speaker 2: you can adjust well.

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Speaker 1: Today this morning was the first day that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: totally overcast. When I woke up at six, there was

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Speaker 1: actually some blue sky out there.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then it got covered up pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: So I don't have one question that marine Is this

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Speaker 2: a new shirt?

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Speaker 1: It is? It's for training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you won't take the tag.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I did. I just got it. There

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Speaker 1: was another tag, and I think I tagged it inside right.

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Speaker 4: It's running out of time, okay, all right, you just

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Speaker 4: take it from the pro shop up there.

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Speaker 1: No, they just gave it to me in the.

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Speaker 2: Tent swag bag.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good, until you're all warm, I am good.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: We got much to get to because we've actually been

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Speaker 4: able to watch football players on a football field, a

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Speaker 4: couple of football fields behind us here for two days,

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Speaker 4: the last couple of days, and they got to practice today,

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Speaker 4: and no practice tomorrow, a practice on Saturday, another ramp up,

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Speaker 4: the final of the ramp up practices. There's four of those,

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Speaker 4: and then they put on the pads on Sunday. Nate,

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Speaker 4: you're looking forward to that, aren't you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Serious? If that's that that you know, we we

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Speaker 2: cross one hurdle in that starting training camp. Second hurdle

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Speaker 2: is the pads, and then the fourth hurdle is the round,

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Speaker 2: I mean, ther third hold is the RAMS and the

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Speaker 2: fourth is the preseason and.

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Speaker 4: That RAMS intra squad practice will be coming up a

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Speaker 4: week from Tuesday, so it's on down the roads in August. Fourth,

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Speaker 4: fifth day after I leave here. Ah, so, but you

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Speaker 4: two will be here.

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Speaker 1: What if we won't let you go?

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Speaker 4: What do you remember most from the Rams practice last year?

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Speaker 2: Asking me he beat us up? Not once?

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Speaker 4: Remember, Jared Verse?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes remember? And you know what, Yes

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Speaker 1: we were right about him too, Yes, sir, didn't we

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Speaker 1: make all rookie team.

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Speaker 4: Or the matchup of this training camp just like it

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Speaker 4: was the matchup of last training camp. And we'll see

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Speaker 4: what strides the left tackle has made.

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Speaker 2: That's right. And I talked to yesterday. He came to

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Speaker 2: me on the field doing practice.

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Speaker 4: Who you're speaking of?

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Speaker 2: And I was talking to uh. I was speaking to

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Speaker 2: the left guard, Tyler Smith say hey, Nate, what's up man,

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Speaker 2: Good to see you out. And I shook his hand,

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Speaker 2: Said what's up? Tyler? He said, what's up? Man? He said,

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Speaker 2: I've heard everything you said on your podcast and I

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Speaker 4: Hey, you're trying to remember what you said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know what I've said over the time.

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Speaker 2: all you have to do is just take a half

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Speaker 2: kind of like mister Callahan was was Callahan we had, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's number one second on the hood and yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's just fortunate. Yesterday we was talking about this.

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Speaker 2: we misjudged this kid. He Bill, you brought it up

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Speaker 2: to me last year, Nate. This kid is not played

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Speaker 4: Eight games, yeah, of college football in a season.

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Speaker 2: In a season. So he needs experience. And he still

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Speaker 1: Did he listen to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was every time I looked up

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Speaker 2: him is he talks to himself. Sometimes you just gotta

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Speaker 2: I think he wants to be successful.

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Speaker 4: But like you say, that's what I've been impressed with him.

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Speaker 4: He's a hard worker.

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Speaker 2: He wants it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's just a matter he's got to put in

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Speaker 2: Yes, in order. Health is the key. Availability is the

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Speaker 2: number one thing in this league.

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Speaker 1: Because you know what happens with young guys when somebody

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Speaker 1: Yes their parents right, and they don't listen. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen that happen. I've seen. Well, you probably more specific

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Speaker 1: Charles Haley's here.

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Speaker 2: Charles will make you roll your eyes because you got

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Speaker 2: and filmf and you know you got to say, dude,

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's good to hear, because you know, there's

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Speaker 1: this offensive line is going to be good. And here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing I saw yesterday. By the way they

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Speaker 2: They got to going back to what we talked about

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Speaker 2: the other day, Fellas is position battles. They have to

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Speaker 2: make this a position battle. You cannot go and let

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Speaker 2: Awesome Richards not have an opportunity to compete, because if

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Speaker 2: you do. I don't know when his contract come up.

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Speaker 2: But this kid, we'll look over and this kid will

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Speaker 2: be playing for somebody else for another ten years.

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Speaker 1: Well he's in his third season. Y and so.

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Speaker 4: Picked two years ago, so he's got two years left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got it next year.

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Speaker 1: We got to be restricted next year.

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Speaker 4: Right, he gets four years fifth as a fifth rounder,

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Speaker 4: he'll be a he gets four.

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Speaker 2: Four year Yeah. So my thing is, this is one

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Speaker 2: we didn't draft him, but we still signed him and

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Speaker 2: we still saw something in him. A coach, our scout

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Speaker 2: this position, in this pick, you have to you have

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Speaker 2: to give equal cadence, especially after a year. You have

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Speaker 2: to give equal equal opportunity. And if this guy gives

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Speaker 2: not saying right, yes, I'm not saying Austin Richard's gonna

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Speaker 1: But at least he has to be ready to be

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Speaker 1: the swing tackle, yes, right, yes, And that's an important

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Speaker 1: What are the percentages that no tackles play seventeen?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, so I liked seeing them well last year.

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Speaker 4: Last year Terrence Steele went seventeen games, but he's had

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Speaker 4: a knee injury in the past right, and Tyler Goeyton

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Speaker 4: had fifteen games, played eleven starts right last year. So

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Speaker 4: out of your tackle position, there were six starts that

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Speaker 4: were made by someone else.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 4: And was Chumudga Richards made one start last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he came back to the next game. Two

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Speaker 2: games he got hurt. I just believe this. And as

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Speaker 2: we talked about them position battles, there's more position battles.

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Speaker 2: I think if y'all wanted to, we can get into

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Speaker 2: but it's only two. It's to me, it's only two

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Speaker 2: position battles that really mean anything, because if these things

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Speaker 2: how good the skilled position players are. If the offensive

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Speaker 2: what's gonna lead this ship. And if the middle of

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Speaker 2: our defense is not settled, I don't care who you

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Speaker 2: put it, corners, it's just not gonna matter.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's left tackle. Yes, be specific, Yes, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you have to give my position battle. And

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Speaker 2: we did special additions. I told him the same thing,

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Speaker 2: and I've been preaching this as much as I love

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Speaker 2: to conquer his demons as much as I like stealing

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Speaker 2: his enthusiasm? Are we gonna run enough to give him

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Speaker 2: I purposely don't bring this guy name up because I

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Speaker 2: No, he's a beast. I mean. And they don't have

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Speaker 4: There's a reason he was on the third the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brah. When I when he walked past me, I saw,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they look at him as the

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Speaker 4: So how many personal trainers did you have back in

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Speaker 4: One other thing on Solomon Thomas when you talk about him,

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Speaker 1: Back when you had to have grades right, just a stud.

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Speaker 1: And I think, uh, on top of that, uh, I

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Speaker 1: it's worth. You remember when they did the the Veterans Day,

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Speaker 1: And he made the tackle on in the Redskins game

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Speaker 1: I said, White Cotton. He goes, yeah, he goes. You

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Speaker 1: know who. He reminds me of Ernie Stautner, And I'm going, well,

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Speaker 4: But he did probably they put assistant coach. If they

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Speaker 4: All right, you've what are your impressions first couple of days?

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Speaker 2: of interceptions. Every time you turn around, they're picking.

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Speaker 4: The ball up, whether they're knocking the ball out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they knocking the ball out. So whereas they didn't

441
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Speaker 2: want a lot of that last year, that is allowed

442
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Speaker 2: this year to knock the ball out and they get

443
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Speaker 2: in interceptions they getting and the defense are really really

444
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Speaker 2: rallying pretty hard. And uh, I wonder, now we've asked

445
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Speaker 2: for this the last few years, speed of practice. I

446
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Speaker 2: wonder how long can they maintain this? This is the

447
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Speaker 2: just to be the third day, right and then they

448
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Speaker 2: get a day off. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna need a

449
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Speaker 2: day off.

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Speaker 4: Well, what what Sead Nimer said yesterday about the first practice.

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Speaker 4: It was about the conditioning. Yeah, he was like the

452
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Speaker 4: first day practice he wasn't He didn't like the conditioning

453
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Speaker 4: as well as what it should have been championship level conditioning,

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Speaker 4: and so he was gonna work them harder and then

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Speaker 4: so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's almost if you're if you're all in the

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Speaker 1: plays and getting the plays in that quickly. That's part

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Speaker 1: of the conditioning, right, because you don't have much time

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Speaker 1: to rest between plays. It's almost like being in the

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Speaker 1: game when what do you got a forty second clock

461
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Speaker 1: or whatever? You got to go. And that's the way

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Speaker 1: they're practicing right now.

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Speaker 2: It's fast, and like I say, they'll need Friday often.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know a lot of you know, young

465
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Speaker 2: guys they're gonna move around a lot, but not with

466
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Speaker 2: the same enthusiasm. These they have been concentrating and don't

467
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Speaker 2: seem like it's a lot of blown plays overall that

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Speaker 2: maybe at that wide receive a position because like I said,

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Speaker 2: I've seen a few interceptions, a few knockdowns, a few fumbles.

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Speaker 2: So that's where the fatigue come in. When you let

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Speaker 2: guys knock the ball out of your hand when you're

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Speaker 2: careless with it and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And Bilton made a point about the coaching staff. The

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Speaker 1: enthusiasm and the energy is awfully high still that we

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Speaker 1: saw in the off season.

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Speaker 2: You know what's higher than that? And me and what

477
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Speaker 2: you called seducer.

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Speaker 4: Producers producer supreme Chris.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was like he was filming. He said

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Speaker 2: he can't even hear himself filming the music.

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Speaker 4: The music, which which I mean you think about it

482
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Speaker 4: when they play football games, it's loud.

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Speaker 2: In that stand, right, Yeah, but you do want to

484
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Speaker 2: coach and libby what they do.

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Speaker 4: We'll do in the walkthrough and which we aren't supposed

486
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Speaker 4: to be able to watch the they they get a

487
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Speaker 4: lot of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want you to film it.

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, that's more, they're not blaring the music during

490
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Speaker 4: the walk through.

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Speaker 1: There's more teaching going on where Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So you're you're trying to simulate more of a game

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Speaker 4: type condition during the regular practice.

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Speaker 1: That reminds me when we were in San Antonio and

495
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Speaker 1: Almo Don't when Parcels was there and Rowdy was just

496
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Speaker 1: getting the crowd all fired up. And this was before

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Speaker 1: they started playing music, and Parcells said the coaches couldn't

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Speaker 1: even teach because there was so much noise.

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Speaker 4: He finally called somebody up and goes.

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Speaker 1: Who is that guy and tell him to quit?

501
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Speaker 4: He got on, He got on Rowdy okay. And so

502
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Speaker 4: speaking of those interceptions, Marshawn and Neelan had one dropped

503
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Speaker 4: out into the flat and picked off Dak on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Then yesterday kyer Eli had an interception I thought was

505
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Speaker 4: one thing that was interesting. Towards the end of practice,

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Speaker 4: after Dak was done with his reps, he went over

507
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Speaker 4: to the defensive sideline and he was chopping it up

508
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Speaker 4: with kaye Elam on the sideline. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: that it was necessarily just, you know, so some sort

510
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Speaker 4: of fun and games he was trying to find out.

511
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Speaker 4: I think from kayir what he saw on what he.

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Speaker 1: Saw, you know, and so And the only scare they

513
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Speaker 1: had yesterday was George Pickens made a really good catch

514
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Speaker 1: on the sideline. They ruled him out of bounds and

515
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Speaker 1: he ended up laying on the ground and you're going, oh, are.

516
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Speaker 2: You kidding me? And then it ended up being yeah,

517
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Speaker 2: and uh.

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Speaker 4: Don I think Donovan Wilson is the one who broke

519
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: that up or got forced by the way you talk

520
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Speaker 4: about knocking the ball out. Donovan Wilson been doing a

521
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: whole bunch of that here the early days at camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that I like mostly about this defense,

523
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Speaker 2: and I have discussions with people is off camera, is

524
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: that people don't understand this year here, the new defensive

525
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: coordinator runs the whole thing. It's not one coach running

526
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Speaker 2: the defensive backfield, another coach running the linebacks, then another

527
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: coach running defensive line. We have a defensive coordinator and

528
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: his name is Eva Flus, and he is the defensive coordinator.

529
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: He tells his assistance what to do, He coordinates, coordinates

530
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Speaker 2: this thing and they all go out and transfer to

531
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Speaker 2: information and what their responsibilities is to the players. And

532
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: that is how you do it. Last year. We had

533
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: too many different talking heads and it hurt its defense

534
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: as a whole. Yes, we had a lot of injuries,

535
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: but when you play in a chaotic manner and there's

536
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Speaker 2: no order to that chaos, it cannot win. I don't

537
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: know if you can have orderly chaos anyway. But it

538
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: did not work last year. It should work earlier and

539
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: better this year.

540
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Speaker 4: Mickey. Anybody on defense that sticks out to you through

541
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Speaker 4: two days without pads on well.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when Schottenheimer talked about Kenneth Murray,

543
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Speaker 1: another guy that was a former first round draft choice

544
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Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma, right.

545
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Speaker 4: Right, and where he wore the number nine nine.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was part of fifty nine right.

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Speaker 4: That's probably why he chose fifty nine here, because he's

548
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Speaker 4: nine is taken well.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking it was either that or he's a

550
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Speaker 1: dog and it's K nine K nine right. Anyway, he's

551
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Speaker 1: wearing the green dot. Schottenheimer pointed that out. So they're

552
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Speaker 1: sending the calls in to your outside linebacker, not necessarily

553
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Speaker 1: a middle linebacker. They nominally do. And someone asked him

554
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Speaker 1: about him and his play, and Schottenheimer said, he you

555
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Speaker 1: asked the question and you got the he's a grown

556
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Speaker 1: ass man.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

558
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Speaker 1: He led Tennessee last year and tackles ninety five and

559
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Speaker 1: he played he missed I think three games. He played

560
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Speaker 1: fourteen games, and I've been impressed with him, especially in

561
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Speaker 1: run fits. And that's what I want out of these linebackers.

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody critique him, and they criticized him for

563
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Speaker 1: his past coverage, and I'm going, well, if if he's

564
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: in pass coverage, somebody else needs to be favoring.

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Speaker 4: When the Cowboys traded for him, there was a The

566
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Speaker 4: response amongst the people who pay attention to Pro Football

567
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: Focus and their grades was why are we trading for

568
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: this guy? Because he, by Pro Football Focused grades did

569
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Speaker 4: not grade well with Tennessee.

570
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Speaker 1: Now what is that site?

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Speaker 4: Uh so Uh that's why you haven't heard any buzz

572
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: about him. But as Schottenheimer said when I asked him

573
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Speaker 4: about him yesterday, one of the things he he goes

574
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Speaker 4: back to when Dallas played San franc played the Chargers

575
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: two years ago, and yeah, they got Khalil Mack, Yeah

576
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: they got Joey Bosa. But as an offensive coordinator, what

577
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: he was concerned with was number nine, which was Kenneth

578
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Speaker 4: Murray over there. He's got athleticism that is right there

579
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Speaker 4: with Demarvey on Overshewn. They go back and look at

580
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: both of their combine numbers, they're almost identical. And so

581
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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting that they've got him playing the

582
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Speaker 4: will here and his movement skills and his ability to

583
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Speaker 4: also rush the passer is something that ebra Flus has

584
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Speaker 4: to really like. And I think it's going to be

585
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Speaker 4: very interesting to see how he's used here. And uh,

586
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: and you know that doesn't mean that other linebackers aren't

587
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: going to get on the field too. Sanborn's playing in

588
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: the middle right now, Marris Leo fouls Uh, you know

589
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: they've got high hopes for him, and then Overshown, hopefully

590
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: by Thanksgiving or whatever, will be in the mix too.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you think about the linebacking corps, when you

592
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Speaker 1: mentioned Murray, Leo Foule can run and he was he

593
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Speaker 1: was a.

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Speaker 4: Cover guy at Murray's a four or five gag.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got a lot of speed at the

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Speaker 1: at the linebacker spot. Now I want speed into the

597
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Speaker 1: hole to stop the run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's great that we're talking about the linebackers.

599
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: Our defensive line don't do what it's supposed to do,

600
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Speaker 2: you d linebackers will be none existent. I mean, everything

601
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Speaker 2: you guys have said has been on point and right

602
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Speaker 2: on time, but just please.

603
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Speaker 4: Not even make the tackles.

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Speaker 2: You can't and uh, a lot of be said for

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Speaker 2: the fifteen to thirty plays we're seeing pads come Sunday,

606
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Speaker 2: you know, but it's just everything is predicated on that front.

607
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Speaker 2: Even with mixed deal yesterday when he was saying the

608
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: battles at at a corner in safety, all of it's

609
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Speaker 2: still predicated on what we do up in the front

610
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Speaker 2: of our So do.

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Speaker 1: You think we've we've talked about the defensive tackles, What

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Speaker 1: about the defensive ends ability to play, play the run

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Speaker 1: and set the edge.

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Speaker 2: That is that is what we have to understand. That's

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Speaker 2: what we have to see. Excuse me, we have to

616
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Speaker 2: see that a lot. One thing that we have been

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Speaker 2: sitting here for the last fifteen twenty years. One thing

618
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Speaker 2: we know is whenever a team wants to really get

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Speaker 2: after the Cowboys, they run the football. When the team say,

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Speaker 2: you know, we don't worry about Parson's parsons, We're just

621
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Speaker 2: gonna run the football. And that is what we have

622
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Speaker 2: to see this year. Washington's gonna run it.

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Speaker 4: And you've got two teams in your division who have

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Speaker 4: the quarterback run threat.

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Speaker 2: And so we have to set the edge. That has

626
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Speaker 2: to be a priority, almost to the sacrifice of not

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Speaker 2: getting off so quick for the past. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: am a belief of this, and I watched Parcels do it.

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Speaker 2: I watched Jimmy do it. It's one guy kind of

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Speaker 2: can get out of the line, and I'm not gonna

631
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Speaker 2: say too much, but he can't get too far out online.

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Speaker 2: That's Parsons. The other ten guys ain't no way in

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Speaker 2: the word you're gonna walk on the fence and tell

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Speaker 2: me what you saw and mess up my defense. I

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: don't want to hear it. And if coach I Verflus

636
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Speaker 2: is doing that, I think everything will be all right.

637
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: But you have to you have to stop the run

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Speaker 2: when our in our division, if we have a chance

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Speaker 2: of beating these guys, even the giants, we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to stop the run. All right.

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Speaker 4: talk a little. C. D. Lamb, who talked to the

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Speaker 1: It's always that's the Cowboys, right Tyler. It never changes.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Tyler Smith said when he landed here

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Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon when they asked him what's the goal,

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Speaker 1: and he said, win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Every year thirty two teams start out in training camp,

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Speaker 2: what's to go?

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Speaker 1: And my point is it doesn't matter if you're coming

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Speaker 1: off a seven and ten seasons.

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Speaker 2: Only doesn't change, No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And it's difficult, and it doesn't matter if you're coming

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Speaker 1: off four and twelve or twelve and four. Back in

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Speaker 1: the day, it's win the Super Bowl and it's not easy.

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Speaker 1: And the goal to me is you get you first

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Speaker 1: got to have a winning season. Then you got a

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Speaker 1: challenge for the NFC East title. You get in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and you hope to win a playoff game or two

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Speaker 1: and then the rest takes care of itself.

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Speaker 4: Look at the wide receiver room for the Cowboys. How

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Speaker 4: does it rank against the rest of the league.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think on this point.

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Speaker 4: What we see de Lamb's response he smiled, we might

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Speaker 4: he smiled, and he said, I like us versus anybody.

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Speaker 1: One of the best, he said, And you know they're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with the addition of Pickens to number one receivers.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to sit here and goes, well,

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Speaker 1: how's Pickens gonna deal with because he's not the number

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Speaker 1: one receiver? Well, just hold on on that, because he's

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Speaker 1: Pickens is awfully good. And I liked what Schottenheimer said

723
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Speaker 1: about Pickens. He said, if they're if they're in man

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Speaker 1: defense on him, he's open. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: we've been seeing here between those two guys. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: then you can fill in the blank on the third guy,

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Speaker 1: which I think when they go three wide there'll be

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Speaker 1: a rotation there. But I've been impressed with how CD

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Speaker 1: is playing. And by the way, I'm assuming by now

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Speaker 1: the interview it was nineteen minute interview with Cede Lamb yesterdays.

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Speaker 1: You need to go listen to it. He was, he

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Speaker 1: he he's all podium.

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Speaker 2: It didn't waiver.

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Speaker 4: I mean nothing he's saying, right, do not how he's

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Speaker 4: come along. Yeah, just in terms of his press conferences,

736
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Speaker 4: his stuff in the now five years that he's.

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Speaker 1: Been that's the most outspoken. I think he was great.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was. I wrote about it, and I been waiting.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh. He's been waiting a whole off season and

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Speaker 2: coming out of last year, he's like, he's been waiting.

741
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Speaker 1: Well, he and he and he pointed out because I'm

742
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Speaker 1: trying to remember who asked the question about this is

743
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Speaker 1: your first training camp since twenty twenty three, you know,

744
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Speaker 1: how does it feel to be out here? And he

745
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Speaker 1: was like, wow, you know, and he goes and uh,

746
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Speaker 1: he said, I fooled myself last year when I got back,

747
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Speaker 1: I thought I'd just pick up and go, and he goes,

748
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Speaker 1: there was a transition period because I didn't go to

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Speaker 1: training camp.

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Speaker 4: You got that at wide receiver position, you have to

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Speaker 4: be in sync with your quarterback that time on tap ask,

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00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: whether it's in camp whatever. Don't you know when did

753
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: he sign ten days before the opener something like that much.

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Speaker 4: There's not much practice time before the opener, but it's

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Speaker 4: all that time on. Even though even though he had

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Speaker 4: been with Dak and coming off a season in which

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Speaker 4: Dak finished second in the MVP voting and he had

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Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five catches to lead the year,

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Speaker 4: you still have to put the work in right now,

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Speaker 4: especially quarterback and receiver, and they're missing that. And for

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Speaker 4: that matter, look at what at Washington right now. You

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Speaker 4: got a second year quarterback in Jaden Daniels there and

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Speaker 4: his top receiver is not in camp right now, Terry McLaurin,

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Speaker 4: because he's in a contract hold out. And if that

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Speaker 4: lasts very long, you just watch Washington and see what

766
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Speaker 4: happens with that quarterback receiver relationship is they'll get him signed.

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Speaker 4: But missing these these days of practice could come back

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Speaker 4: to haunt them. And that's basically what CD said in

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Speaker 4: reflection in hindsight, looking back last year, he felt like

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Speaker 4: that that got him out of sync to start the series.

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Speaker 1: He said, man, this is amazing, and he said, I

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Speaker 1: was a little oblivious to the truth on what it

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Speaker 1: meant not to be in training camp, and he goes,

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Speaker 1: I have to do the things to his tailoring, meaning

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Speaker 1: to what Dak's expecting, what he needs to do as

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you know what. And I thought that

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Speaker 1: was really that was really insightful on his part.

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Speaker 4: I felt that going back to RG three's career, what

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Speaker 4: derailed his career was his knee injury and then he

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Speaker 4: wasn't able to work the off season after that or

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Speaker 4: training camp leading up, comes back too soon basically, and

782
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Speaker 4: had no relationship with his receivers, and then he had

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins waiting in the wings there and basically it

784
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Speaker 4: derailed his career and not being able to put that

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Speaker 4: work in.

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Speaker 1: Three man thoughts on the wide RECEIVERSH.

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Speaker 2: Man, I like what we're doing. I like, uh that

788
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Speaker 2: everybody's in place. And y'all know, I've always been a

789
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Speaker 2: CD lamb man, even when the East one going right.

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Speaker 2: This first year and a half, yeah, I'm about CD,

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Speaker 2: and so uh for him to get up. At first,

792
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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna listen, but I had to do an

793
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Speaker 2: interview with somebody, so I was listening and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this is CD. Yeah, I mean, uh, this brother got

795
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Speaker 2: some street cred he but he didn't bring that language

796
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Speaker 2: and that slave to the street. He brought you know,

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Speaker 2: English one on one to the table and it was

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Speaker 2: nice and it was nice.

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Speaker 1: And I noticed this in the mini camp and the

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Speaker 1: OTAs how those two guys, uh, they would celebrate. You know.

801
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Speaker 1: George Pickens makes a big play down the field and

802
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Speaker 1: OTA is, okay, you're not tackling, there's no physicality. But

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Speaker 1: he gets open and the first guy to meet him

804
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Speaker 1: in the end zone is CD Lamb and they did

805
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Speaker 1: again here yesterday and the second guy to meet both

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Speaker 1: of them was the quarterback running downfield because they connected

807
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Speaker 1: on a deep pass and somebody asked CD about is

808
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Speaker 1: that what we're going to see and he said, those

809
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Speaker 1: days literally are coming.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I think they're trying to show these

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Speaker 2: young men is that there's love here, there's a new

812
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Speaker 2: attitude here. Come be a part of it. And I

813
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Speaker 2: think if you can just look at missus Jones and

814
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Speaker 2: just understand what he's saying, and he's telling the same

815
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Speaker 2: thing to number eleven Parsons, come be a part of this,

816
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: help build something that can be special. And that's what

817
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Speaker 2: coach is trying to do. The head coach, He's just

818
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Speaker 2: come be a part of this. Come, come, do your best,

819
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Speaker 2: Come compete, and let the chips fall what they may,

820
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: and the best players will play well. Other thing I

821
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Speaker 2: do like about coach is he was saying a lot

822
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Speaker 2: of people have to compete, and I agree with him

823
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. But when he was like saying that

824
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Speaker 2: he's gonna make George Pickens earn it, don't. We're not

825
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Speaker 2: gonna play that game. You know what I'm saying, and

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Speaker 2: he he just he showed me like, I'm not playing

827
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Speaker 2: that game. I don't know how many times they throw

828
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Speaker 2: during the season, but I'm a firm believer, y'all. Y'all

829
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Speaker 2: have always heard me say this, and I'm gonna stick

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Speaker 2: to this. If we're gonna have pickings and ceedee lamb,

831
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Speaker 2: if we throw a thousand passes, I need for seven

832
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty of them to go to these two

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Speaker 2: guys and then you get to whoever else you need

834
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Speaker 2: to get to. I do not care. You're gonna get end.

835
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean what does the Bengals do? Yeah?

836
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean what does Miami do? What does Philadelphia do?

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00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: You know when when they brought in sich Taquon, they

839
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Speaker 2: just say, hey, man, let's rest him.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, are you proposing not running the football at all?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying if we okay, yeah, you know you have.

843
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Speaker 4: About you have about eleven hundred plays.

844
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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna go. Let's say we behind. I

845
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Speaker 2: mean that's behind. But I don't know how many plays

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Speaker 2: we run. And I just.

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Speaker 1: Understood your proportions.

848
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Speaker 4: But h seventy five percent of the passes need to

849
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Speaker 4: go to these two two.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if we can find uh, the tight end,

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00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: find if we can find other guys, fine, but you

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Speaker 2: know that, Wow, that was like it like one hundred plays. Man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're not gonna run at all.

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Speaker 4: All right, I think we're about out of time here.

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Speaker 4: We oh, we are pastime.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's leave you with one last word from

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Speaker 1: ce Ed Lamb when he asked that he was asked

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Speaker 1: about what you thought of him before he got here

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Speaker 1: to now, and he said he's not as crazy as

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Speaker 1: he seemed to be talking about George George Picks. Yes, okay, yes,

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00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: not as crazy as you seem to be.

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00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 4: Well, they're buttering him up, that's right. I mean Pickens

863
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: went to the podium before Lamb did. He went first,

864
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: Pickens was first. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I think we get Dak today.

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Speaker 4: I we think so.

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Speaker 2: We can close at his show because I got some visiting,

868
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Speaker 2: Like you got to use the restroom.

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Speaker 4: Shame God, you got the break coming up. Break is next. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that does it. And as a tribute as we close

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Speaker 4: it out, a tribute to Everson Walls from Nate Newton.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you next Monday on Mix Shots Go Cowboys.

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