Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: load glasses, Malone, I gotta show you this stick. I
Speaker 1: bought mugs, my old gummy muggs Minglewood. I had Bardy
Speaker 1: a cigar from It's A It's a It's an athlete
Speaker 1: that uh he's in Vegas. He used to play football
Speaker 1: and he had nons cigars called H cigars and cars.
Speaker 2: Nice it's out of Vegas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the stick was like forty bucks. He had
Speaker 1: them for sale at a me, me and a fan.
Speaker 1: We went to, uh, my favorite spot is uh in
Speaker 1: New York Del Frisco's, and they got one in Vegas
Speaker 1: to Del frisco and they was doing this uh event
Speaker 1: at del Frisco's Cigars and Cars. So I was like,
Speaker 1: it's like, I need to get mons a stick, you know,
Speaker 1: I need to get mos a stick. Like he fucked
Speaker 1: with it. So that motherfucker was forty bucks, though, Man,
Speaker 1: is that expensive? Yeah? What's the most expensive togu out
Speaker 1: you ever bought?
Speaker 2: Probably around their like mid thirties, mid thirties.
Speaker 1: That shit is expensive, man. To smoke that shit. Damn
Speaker 1: you better not smoke that shit at once. That's like
Speaker 1: you that that that liquor, that tequila Scott's that SIMPI shit,
Speaker 1: you better take this ship slow. That shuld be thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. You better drink this shit slow.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I forgot, No, I got like airport priced.
Speaker 2: I wasn't at the airport. But there's this high end
Speaker 2: David Off place over at the you know that giant
Speaker 2: guitar casino in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hollywoo, Florida. So I was over there with some
Speaker 2: friends and I got so I can't remember how which
Speaker 2: one did you really was? I think it was a
Speaker 2: dab it off like a Yamamoto or something like that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was like close to sixty. Those guys
Speaker 2: were buying ones that were like ninety. They were overpriced
Speaker 2: as all hell.
Speaker 1: But sure, sure you ever smoked the Cubans of Goard,
Speaker 1: like the real thing, like hand rolled and all that
Speaker 1: crazy shit.
Speaker 2: So here we are, my good humidor. I have two humidors.
Speaker 2: I have one for Cubans and one not for Cubans.
Speaker 2: It's it's a little rosa parksy. I'm not gonna lie, sure,
Speaker 2: but I don't want these non Cubans Cubans. I mean,
Speaker 2: I segregate my cigars. I have a whole other box
Speaker 2: with non Cubans. But yeah, Cuban Montic Crystal right here,
Speaker 2: we got the Cuban part of is number four right here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't even want them breathing the same air as
Speaker 2: the other cigars, so they have to have their own box.
Speaker 1: Your ass is crazy, man, you know what. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you said that because it is making me laugh. Look,
Speaker 1: do you consider those.
Speaker 2: With cigars?
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure you are very prezy towards other cigars.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying racially, do you feel like do you
Speaker 1: feel like black people in this country have been discriminated against?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I was thinking about that the other day.
Speaker 2: As far as articulating, like my my perspective on it, sure,
Speaker 2: the way I look at it is as follows. I
Speaker 2: think there's there's three key points to my viewpoint, the
Speaker 2: first being yes, absolutely, history is indisputable. I think also
Speaker 2: people look at history in a way that's like contextualized
Speaker 2: in such a way so that like I'll say, like
Speaker 2: that that's the history, that's that's true. Modern day. Like,
Speaker 2: let's say, from a perspective of do black people commit
Speaker 2: more violent crimes per capita than other people? Yes, statistically,
Speaker 2: that's also true. Does either of the two points have
Speaker 2: anything to do with the fact that any black person
Speaker 2: that walks up to me or into my place or
Speaker 2: whatever the hell, I don't know that person. They're carte
Speaker 2: blanche to me. That could be Ben Carson or it
Speaker 2: could be big bad glasses of alone. I don't know
Speaker 2: the person until I know the person. So I don't
Speaker 2: hold any prejudice based off any statistics, any history, or
Speaker 2: whatever else against anybody at any moment. But I'm aware
Speaker 2: of history. I'm aware statists as well. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to say that they're fake. They just don't apply to
Speaker 2: the way I deal with human beings one on one.
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, So the reason I was asking that is,
Speaker 1: is this weird war going on right now, like right,
Speaker 1: and it's a super weird war. I don't know who's
Speaker 1: on the left side, like I don't know who's on
Speaker 1: this side, but I know on the right side. Like right,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the stuff going on with Target,
Speaker 1: all the stuff going on at the Dodger Stadium, all
Speaker 1: this stuff going on where it's like the LGBTQ plus community,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's all of them, because this
Speaker 1: is still an organization in this in a piece that
Speaker 1: we like to militarize right.
Speaker 4: To someone, Well you know my opinion on that also, sure, sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I've said given clearly, yeah, just just yet
Speaker 4: for the audience sake, I've been very clear to me personally, when.
Speaker 2: I look at a lot of the organized activist groups
Speaker 2: of people that are pushing like pro trans stuff, pro
Speaker 2: gay stuff, even pro black stuff. For that, man, I
Speaker 2: don't I try to. I try to not to the
Speaker 2: one allways, trying to back the other one.
Speaker 1: Motherucking mind if you compare, but go ahead, I get you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But I still think that Joe transperson, Joe
Speaker 2: gay person, Joe black person, whatever is being used as
Speaker 2: a tennis ball by other active activist corporate interests, political
Speaker 2: interests that are holding the racket. And I and I
Speaker 2: don't think that the people are actually representative of the
Speaker 2: movement by and large.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's fair, that's fair. So let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, who do you think is behind the
Speaker 1: you know, before I get to my point, who do
Speaker 1: you think is behind the LGBTQ push that we see
Speaker 1: in currently, Like like what's going on in target? Who
Speaker 1: is behind it? What corporation is behind it? And what
Speaker 1: is that? If you had to obviously you don't know
Speaker 1: the answer because you're not a part right, but you
Speaker 1: have a pretty reason.
Speaker 2: I got a pretty clear idea.
Speaker 1: You got a pretty you have educated guests who would
Speaker 1: be that corporation or that movement behind that.
Speaker 2: There's a few groups that pull the strings and they're
Speaker 2: all kind of intertwined, and they come to assert themselves
Speaker 2: in a few key areas. I think that there is
Speaker 2: a broader Marxist social activist group that it has infiltrated
Speaker 2: academia for sure, and they've re educated anybody who's gotten
Speaker 2: a degree in anything in the last quarter century. I
Speaker 2: also think that there are groups that look at that
Speaker 2: type of governmental, hardcore totalitarian approach to economic control and
Speaker 2: they go, well, I want to make sure I'm on
Speaker 2: the right side of that, so I can deal with
Speaker 2: the free market myself, but I can't deal with those
Speaker 2: people myself, so I'm going to cozy up to them.
Speaker 2: And then you have key actors like the head of
Speaker 2: Blackrock and you have George Soros and people that don't
Speaker 2: own a company, but they invest so much money in
Speaker 2: the companies, like say the ESG index. It's established by
Speaker 2: black Rock, and I forgot the name of the guy
Speaker 2: who runs that thing, but he's very invested in that,
Speaker 2: not only ideologically but financially. So then corporations realize, I
Speaker 2: have to acquiesce and assert myself in the E environmental
Speaker 2: thing that screen movement and the SG the social governance,
Speaker 2: which is social causes. So if Target were, for example,
Speaker 2: to flippantly reject wholesale Pride month, they're ESG score is
Speaker 2: going to go down. And Blackrock has a between seven
Speaker 2: and ten trillion dollar investment portfolio, So if they decide
Speaker 2: we're not gonna invest you, we're gonna blackball Target, that's
Speaker 2: such a huge component of the market that it would
Speaker 2: financially cripple Target potentially. And you saw that with Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: When Elon Musk bought Twitter. Tesla's ESG score was lower
Speaker 2: than Exxon Mobiles. And they're an electric green car company
Speaker 2: versus an oil company, so that that that creates so
Speaker 2: much downward pressure on the stock that it really kills
Speaker 2: the company it's a giant blackmail scheme between the Security
Speaker 2: Exchange Commission and big hedge funds and corporations.
Speaker 1: Okay, so so first off, this is no seller's gl
Speaker 1: We we already deep in, y'all know, God, we do this.
Speaker 2: We deep in, uh, Peter, deep in, no pulling out.
Speaker 1: No pulling out. You feel it's gonna be a baby
Speaker 1: in nine months, as this one still is around. But
Speaker 1: he figured it out. But okay, what's the true agenda
Speaker 1: you believe? Is it just as simple as like like
Speaker 1: the lg like the homosexual community, the LGBTQ plus community
Speaker 1: just wants it to be normalized for these specific lifestyles.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Okay, So that that might be, that's all. Yes,
Speaker 2: that might be true for the members of that community.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what's what do you feel the real power
Speaker 1: play is behind it? What's the real purpose?
Speaker 2: The purpose right now? The challenge with like a Marxist
Speaker 2: movement infiltrating the US has always been for decades, very
Speaker 2: very openly stated. It's a working system, it's a strong
Speaker 2: middle class. There's a traditionalist value apparatus in place, and
Speaker 2: they're not going to abandon that when things are going well.
Speaker 2: So you have to make things go poorly. You have
Speaker 2: to erode and deteriorate the fabric of a traditional system.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to do that on all fronts. You
Speaker 2: have to erode religious faith, you have to eroade social norms,
Speaker 2: you have to erode economic systems, you have to be
Speaker 2: eroade political systems. And the social norms component is this,
Speaker 2: if we can convince two hundred million Americans that men
Speaker 2: can have babies and men can be women and whatever else,
Speaker 2: that's a very foundational, simple truth to redefine for a
Speaker 2: lot of people. So it's a proof of concept of
Speaker 2: how much have we And you see it come out
Speaker 2: with the kids stuff. You see the teachers' union, you know,
Speaker 2: national leader and various politicians say they're not your kids,
Speaker 2: they're society's kids, they're the community's kids.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I saw a great documentary it was on Netflix about
Speaker 2: the Kumar Rouge takeover of Cambodia. The first thing they
Speaker 2: did was separate the kids from the parents. The parents
Speaker 2: who protest were killed in the middle of the village.
Speaker 2: Siblings were separated. You couldn't be near your sibling, and
Speaker 2: you became a child of the movement of the party.
Speaker 2: So I think that there's a parallel there as what
Speaker 2: you see with the schools. We're not gonna we're gonna
Speaker 2: separate the kids from the if you can convince a
Speaker 2: kid that he's trans, we're going to make sure that
Speaker 2: the parents don't know. We're gonna we're gonna have changing
Speaker 2: closets at the school, and if the parents protest, we're
Speaker 2: gonna say this is now a social welfare issue, and
Speaker 2: we're going to pull the children out of custody of
Speaker 2: that parent. Sure, and it's an erosion of social fabric.
Speaker 1: So your goal is to tear down America or to
Speaker 1: tear down American rebuild America in a specific way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that trans people, gay people, black people,
Speaker 2: and Latino people are being used as a tennis ball
Speaker 2: by other agenda forces, probably either, I will say, more
Speaker 2: so unbeknownst to most of them. Sure, I don't, and
Speaker 2: I don't hold that against any member of any of
Speaker 2: those four communities whatsoever at all, because I don't think
Speaker 2: I think they're being lied to, and it's very easy to.
Speaker 1: And that's unfair. I don't know if it's fair or unfair.
Speaker 1: So this is my thing, right, and it's it's dope
Speaker 1: to have this conversation with you because we've talked about
Speaker 1: religion before. You know, most people think of religion as
Speaker 1: one of the disciplines. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, those are disciplines.
Speaker 1: Those aren't religions. Religion is simply defined as the belief
Speaker 1: in God. Then you have discipline practices of you know,
Speaker 1: keeping that belief or making that belief obvious, living that
Speaker 1: belief right, which is what we call religion. Right, Christianity
Speaker 1: is not a religion, it's discipline. Yeah, life is not
Speaker 1: right as we slowly started to pull God out of
Speaker 1: the country obviously, you know, without God, without without those
Speaker 1: disciplines that create true moral compass for most human beings. Right,
Speaker 1: those ideas are what create, what create you know, true
Speaker 1: moral compass for humans. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: if it's not a sophistic if it's not a uh,
Speaker 1: a sophisticated mind like yourself, everybody else kind of just
Speaker 1: goes with the program. And if the program doesn't have
Speaker 1: rules and people live their life without rules.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's a great perspective and you can sort of
Speaker 2: see that happening with regards to like, say, there's there's
Speaker 2: levels to decision making. The highest level would be if
Speaker 2: you're a very devout religious person, the choice is going
Speaker 2: to be, well, I could do this, but my more
Speaker 2: definition of wrong is here. Yeah, the legal definition is here.
Speaker 2: What can be argued as legal is even lower than that. Sure,
Speaker 2: so you have a lowering of the bar of your
Speaker 2: standards of behavior with dealing with other people.
Speaker 1: And I thought you could relate, like even as somebody
Speaker 1: like yourself, Like, yeah, you could see it where your
Speaker 1: mind is. You live based off of rules that you've
Speaker 1: been able to think about as you you know, and
Speaker 1: take information and then start to process things that determine
Speaker 1: how you live. Same for me. Yeah, right, I look
Speaker 1: to I look to those disciplines as even greater ideas
Speaker 1: than my own. Sometimes if like, I don't always have
Speaker 1: to know why to not participate. Sometimes I'll just take
Speaker 1: somebody's older advice. You know, let me take their advice.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna debate with them. I'm not gonna argue
Speaker 1: with them. I'm gonna take this older person still gives
Speaker 1: me wisdom, you know, shout out to still you just
Speaker 1: popped in, but still gives me wisdom. And I just listen.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the times I don't is when we are in
Speaker 1: creative space, like if I make a specific style of song,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and I know it's something brilliant,
Speaker 1: and I know my intentions. I don't really worry about
Speaker 1: what Still or mac Tin will say, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And I don't mean that, nagg I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: I'm serious like still like when I'm when I'm being
Speaker 1: heinoused and what Still says matters to me. But when
Speaker 1: I'm just being brilliant, I'm never gonna let anybody else
Speaker 1: like put a shade over my life and and and
Speaker 1: they don't mean to it's literally trying to protect me
Speaker 1: from what they feel like can happen. But sure, the
Speaker 1: point I was saying to you, Pete was my issue. Right,
Speaker 1: So growing up my whole life, as I watched this
Speaker 1: weird warplay out with the with the LGBTQ or whatever
Speaker 1: is going on in this whole Pride Week and which
Speaker 1: would probably be considered anybody of m I guess religious
Speaker 1: religious belief because it's almost like God versus you know,
Speaker 1: in the sense of how we see it. Right, But
Speaker 1: growing up I remember I never like I'm a very
Speaker 1: much a liberal person. You know what comes across is
Speaker 1: I think people think I'm conservative, and it's like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm a super liberal.
Speaker 2: Person, absolutely hard core socialist.
Speaker 1: Hardcore and if you know me, you know who I am. Right.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you where I'm wrong at right.
Speaker 1: And this is one of those prime examples. Growing up,
Speaker 1: I never cared if they LGBTQ putting rainbows over shit,
Speaker 1: because I genuinely believe bro to be homosexual is a
Speaker 1: serious commitment, especially because I genuinely believe only men can
Speaker 1: be gay. Like I've had this conversation, women cannot be gay.
Speaker 1: You cannot have sex with another woman. For me, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you call cunning linguists, but that's not sex.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call any of that other
Speaker 1: shit you doing bump and coochies. That is not sex.
Speaker 1: But there's only one sex, see that. That's that's another
Speaker 1: space we in the world where we just have we
Speaker 1: try to make everybody fin of off. That's not sex.
Speaker 1: Sex one specific thing. It's one specific thing, right, It
Speaker 1: require some shit to happen.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure we have some memories of a lesbian
Speaker 3: community that would discipline.
Speaker 1: It'll be all right. I'm fine with that that Listen.
Speaker 1: They could live in their truth and I live in fact,
Speaker 1: and that's nothing that it's no crime, because I you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But the point I'm saying
Speaker 1: is to take dick is a serious, serious commitment. So
Speaker 1: I always believe if there was a homosexual person, you
Speaker 1: have to be committed to take dick because I'm not
Speaker 1: taking no dick, bro, Like, I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: So I would be like, well, you could tell you
Speaker 1: could actually advise people as much as you want, you
Speaker 1: can show them everything, but everybody ain't taking no dick.
Speaker 1: But what I've where I'm wrong at is people's the
Speaker 1: simplest desire for most humans is to be cared for,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like people want to be
Speaker 1: cared for. Now under those things, so people to pay
Speaker 1: attention to you, people to connect with you. All those
Speaker 1: things fall up under care. But you want to be careful.
Speaker 1: So human beings right are not in head dj Head
Speaker 1: has told me this year. Silas has told me this
Speaker 1: for years, like ten Still different people have told me, glasses, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop believing in people so much. I think
Speaker 1: you told me this people like you just believe in
Speaker 1: people because I genuinely think you couldn't convince another human
Speaker 1: being to take dick. But what I'm realizing is to matter,
Speaker 1: to be relevant. I think some of these motherfuckers would
Speaker 1: take a dick. Yeah, And for years you couldn't convince me.
Speaker 1: Still would be telling me about all these rappers that's
Speaker 1: gay like that. You know, all everybody in the industry
Speaker 1: got stories telling me, got this person gay it this person,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, y'all niggas lying these people that married,
Speaker 1: these people married, these people, got all it shit going on.
Speaker 1: Why would they just not be gay if they was gay?
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think these niggas is right.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's it's kind of that it's an
Speaker 2: expansion on the I believe it's probably a pornographic reference
Speaker 2: gay for pay.
Speaker 1: I call it gay facing.
Speaker 2: Sure, it depends on what direction you're facing.
Speaker 3: Sure, Nigga's a lot of that going on right now,
Speaker 3: even with some of these artists. Some of these artists,
Speaker 3: recording artists are trying to are attempting to take advantage
Speaker 3: of the homosexual movement. And and so I believe the
Speaker 3: guy that wrote What's the big record the country.
Speaker 1: That gay Old Town.
Speaker 3: I don't believe he's he's I think he's one of
Speaker 3: those people that's taking advantage of someone else's attention.
Speaker 1: And what's crazy to me is this is where we're
Speaker 1: at in society where now I have to accuse people
Speaker 1: of lying about taking it.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. As as the spec
Speaker 2: as the center point needle on the spectrum of morality
Speaker 2: shifts over and over twenty years ago, you could make
Speaker 2: a pretty fair argument. I would say that there were
Speaker 2: rappers who were faking being killers to sell records.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, if morally you'll pretend to be a murderer, why.
Speaker 1: Not because in our community being gay is a lot
Speaker 1: so frowned upon it being a murderer.
Speaker 2: But the needle being moved unless.
Speaker 1: You're like Richard Ramier is a nice starker murderer. That's
Speaker 1: worse than a gay person. But yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But as far as just like you're just
Speaker 1: a rider for your community in the middle of wars
Speaker 1: is different.
Speaker 2: I'm saying if there's a social redefinition of the standard,
Speaker 2: sure you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So you saying the pendulum is swinging to
Speaker 1: where people is like, well, I agree, because that's the
Speaker 1: part of that's the next, that's the next. Uh, not
Speaker 1: so much a killer, but like somebody who lived a
Speaker 1: cowboy life. There you go, a cowboy life style right
Speaker 1: where they're living their lives and they handle justice on
Speaker 1: their own.
Speaker 2: And what's the most noteworthy cowboy movie of the last
Speaker 2: fifteen years?
Speaker 1: There you go, oh shit, oh shit, were connecting dot's today.
Speaker 2: Boys were a constellation. We all up at the stars.
Speaker 1: And I sat down and tried to watch that movie,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, this movie is lame. They were
Speaker 1: trying to make it like it was and that's true
Speaker 1: because that movie was so trash and it was like
Speaker 1: they had these really great actors. I'm like, bro, this
Speaker 1: is what you did with the movie. Like you could
Speaker 1: have told a real that's how but this is you
Speaker 1: know what. That's how I feel about Little nas X.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, this is what you're doing with your
Speaker 1: It's like the first time you heard of Gangster Rap
Speaker 1: and then you heard NWA, you wasn't disappointed. He was like, damn,
Speaker 1: somebody's living like this. You know. There's these modern day
Speaker 1: cowboys that's you know, handling their skirmishes in the streets
Speaker 1: and you were so amp was like, man, this is
Speaker 1: pretty fucking awesome.
Speaker 2: Any ice Cube was the Marlborough man for Black America
Speaker 2: and his generation. Yes, so those are the two the
Speaker 2: two things that are easiest to target if you're going
Speaker 2: to redefine social standards and move a spectrum back and
Speaker 2: forth for behavioral nor so.
Speaker 1: But but that's my point. So I agree with that.
Speaker 1: But then we don't have that now, like it's little
Speaker 1: nas x that now, like I don't get that from him, no.
Speaker 2: But it it just it enters the conversation and if
Speaker 2: one person does it and they're not drummed out of
Speaker 2: the industry immediately. Like there were rumors about like I
Speaker 2: want to say, like Chingy right back in the day,
Speaker 2: and he was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah they yeah, yeah, and this and this guy's had
Speaker 1: it was and the trends that said that about Chinky
Speaker 1: came out and admitted. Sydney Starr admitted that that was
Speaker 1: a lie.
Speaker 3: Like years, no one ever hears the retraction because people
Speaker 3: don't want to People don't want to hear the retraction.
Speaker 3: People would rather still run with the lit because we're
Speaker 3: living in the day and age. And now I've even
Speaker 3: been a victim of this where people would go on
Speaker 3: a lie, people would come on a lot, and we
Speaker 3: didn't have that as much in my era to where
Speaker 3: you know, you had to think it was two things
Speaker 3: you didn't do in my era, and that was still
Speaker 3: another man's intellects with property, and that was going a
Speaker 3: lit byt what you was doing.
Speaker 1: So none of the samples count of still in another
Speaker 1: man's property.
Speaker 3: No, listen, listen to what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm just trying to see I'm.
Speaker 3: Not talking about sampling. That's art for m that's actually
Speaker 3: we're still talking about.
Speaker 2: That's what is doing. He's saying about a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about fighting somebody's rhymes. You didn't bite nobody's rhymes.
Speaker 3: And you didn't front, you didn't allow your you didn't
Speaker 3: allow on your penis, you didn't say you had you
Speaker 3: knocked somebody down that you really didn't knock down.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's real, but I hear you.
Speaker 3: No, you didn't lie on your dick. Back in the day,
Speaker 3: though you just didn't do that. You would be looked
Speaker 3: down upon knock somebody down.
Speaker 2: How old still is? It's is still in nineteen twenties
Speaker 2: and thirties types.
Speaker 1: Nowhere back then. For sure. They probably didn't lie on
Speaker 1: their digs in the thirties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that. In the nineties, you didn't.
Speaker 1: Like people, Yeah, lied on the digging the nineties.
Speaker 3: People lied on the digging the line in the nineties.
Speaker 3: But you were looking frowned down upon. If you respect
Speaker 3: a lot respect, you're lying, motherfucker. You didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Now and you're right now, motherfuckers be lying And it's
Speaker 1: not frown down upon.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: What's crazy to me is it was an artist and
Speaker 1: just google him, like right, it's an artist who was
Speaker 1: lying saying his daughter died to use sympathy as a
Speaker 1: marketing tool to advance his career. And he just came
Speaker 1: out and in admitted it, like I lied about my
Speaker 1: daughter dying, you know what I mean, she's fine and
Speaker 1: blah blah, you know. And he was like yeah, And
Speaker 1: people were in the comments like yeah, everybody makes mistakes, bro,
Speaker 1: like and you gotta he have more fans. And I
Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, like this shit is crazy, people.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at like Kim Kardashian redefining the women
Speaker 2: for the standard for women's behavior. I mean in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy five, if you were a regular lady and you
Speaker 2: were trying to have a career in Hollywood and sex
Speaker 2: tape came out of you like that, that probably wasn't
Speaker 2: going to help your career. That was a trampoline for question.
Speaker 3: Were not on live?
Speaker 1: No, no, but it's gonna go up live? Why what
Speaker 1: you want to say?
Speaker 3: Man? You all allow me to go get dressed and
Speaker 3: all that ship and get dug it up. I got
Speaker 3: an image to protect.
Speaker 1: What is your image?
Speaker 3: Man? It's the big black, handsome nigga.
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard nobody say that about skill in
Speaker 1: the gangst ground. Don't be wrong. I ain't never heard
Speaker 1: nobody say you an ugly motherfucker.
Speaker 3: But I ain't never heard of I'm just talking ship, bro,
Speaker 3: I asked, because I live in the corner.
Speaker 1: But we're living the thing.
Speaker 3: Bro, honestly to where people lie with no regard nowadays.
Speaker 3: Like I had a dude say he chased me around
Speaker 3: the studio with a pipe, Bro.
Speaker 2: Would you stop and pipe or blood pipe?
Speaker 3: Like a like a layer pipe dog? And he went
Speaker 3: on with this whole of laffery tail. And I'm looking
Speaker 3: like when the fuck did this ship happen?
Speaker 2: Where?
Speaker 1: But you know, but you know you're in the era
Speaker 1: of entertainment to where people are are are enhancing the
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, whomen are women are enhancing their hair,
Speaker 1: they breast, they ask all extra enhancements. So you rest
Speaker 1: assure these niggas going to enhance their stories.
Speaker 3: This is this is a crazy era now, man, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be so that's all the finance cars.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if somebody faked their own suicide
Speaker 3: though serious, it's coming, it's coming. Dog's where we gound
Speaker 3: have somebody pretend like they get off themselves.
Speaker 2: As long as the border's open, I might do that
Speaker 2: this summer, come back with a whole new social slide
Speaker 2: through Yuma. Just redefine my credit, redefine.
Speaker 1: My crandit fuck me trans trans tear.
Speaker 2: I don't even did that just about forty nine hundred.
Speaker 1: I'm over it.
Speaker 2: I'll just walk ahead, get a whole new, whole new
Speaker 2: fight though, baby, whole new fight O.
Speaker 1: So so, so what do you think is the driving
Speaker 1: point though? And I think that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, Like, what's the real thing? So if the Okay,
Speaker 1: so I agree with you. Right, the people of a movement,
Speaker 1: right want one thing. And that's kind of the point
Speaker 1: that I get, right, the people of the movement. I
Speaker 1: think there's a genuine.
Speaker 2: Respect the people of the movement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a genuine design where somebody that's
Speaker 1: homosexual don't want to be, you know, oppressed because of
Speaker 1: their sexual pressment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't want to go I think, and have rocks
Speaker 2: thrown at them on the sidewalk. Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was always the purpose of the movement, right,
Speaker 1: that was always the goal of the movement. But you're
Speaker 1: saying the goal of the movement is what for the
Speaker 1: people financing it.
Speaker 2: The goal of the movement at this point in time
Speaker 2: is barriers to competition. It is to secure political power
Speaker 2: for one party, irrefutably so they never lose it. And
Speaker 2: it is also there's been such an enormous amount of
Speaker 2: wealth accrued and such a concentration over the last twenty
Speaker 2: years that now the only threat to that would be
Speaker 2: market innovation eating up your your market space. I mean,
Speaker 2: Google doesn't want the block chain, they don't want this
Speaker 2: and that. So yeah, let's let's use an ESG standard.
Speaker 2: We don't have to worry about being marked competitive, we
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about value, you don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about innovation. We'll just box everybody out by saying
Speaker 2: we're more ESG than you, and you'll never even get funding,
Speaker 2: you won't even get off the ground. And we'll and
Speaker 2: and and then furthermore, we'll pass laws through that same
Speaker 2: power apparatus that we're giving election money to to make
Speaker 2: sure that it's illegal for you to even get a
Speaker 2: license to compete with me. So the power stay powerful
Speaker 2: and the rich stay rich. And that's all that it
Speaker 2: really is. And they'll use any lever or illusion to
Speaker 2: be able.
Speaker 1: You don't even care what if you had twenty billion
Speaker 1: dollars and try to keep that a great point. Whatever
Speaker 1: movement is up, yeah, right, if it was the black movement,
Speaker 1: it was. It was civil rights in the sixty seventies, eighties,
Speaker 1: it was that. So you back that movement because you
Speaker 1: feel like this is the next thing in California. That's
Speaker 1: why I think that the border laws are like that.
Speaker 1: They like this is the way. So we're just going
Speaker 1: to stay on this side and allow this to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to take advantage of it. That makes sense. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's more. That's that's that's cunning.
Speaker 2: And same with the environmental stuff. I mean, California is
Speaker 2: losing valuable residents and replacing them with less valuable residents.
Speaker 2: But because they have such an environmental stranglehold on on
Speaker 2: development of land, they're artificially propping up value of assets
Speaker 2: for people who are political contributors. I mean, like the
Speaker 2: guy who ran for mayor but loss doesn't want I mean,
Speaker 2: he's got a multi billion dollar real estate portfolio. If
Speaker 2: it all of a sudden became yeah Crusoe Recuruiso, if
Speaker 2: you were able to build La like they built Miami vertically,
Speaker 2: everybody's existing value would go down. Instead, we're gonna say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: your environmental impact report says you can't build here, So
Speaker 2: that means I got a monopoly on beachfront property, you
Speaker 2: can't come in. My shit's still worth a hundred million,
Speaker 2: and you're still asked fucking out of luck. So good luck.
Speaker 1: M That is crazy. I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 2: It's all it is. There's been There's no more innovation
Speaker 2: in the marketplace in this country anymore. I mean, anything
Speaker 2: grows like look at a restaurant, for example, any restaurant
Speaker 2: you like, they gets bought up by a corporate entity.
Speaker 2: What happens, The quality goes down, it goes Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's that's for one reason. It's because we're not going
Speaker 2: to be able to innovate better menu. All that we
Speaker 2: can do to increase our profitability is reduce cost. So
Speaker 2: every corporate thing is reduced cost, reduced cost, reduce costs.
Speaker 2: Small businesses innovate, innovate and compete, innovate and compete. Well,
Speaker 2: we're just going to wipe them out. And COVID did
Speaker 2: a great job of that, saying if you're a small
Speaker 2: hardware store, you can't be open. But Walmart they're integral
Speaker 2: or whatever word they use, they can they can stay open.
Speaker 2: Essentially essential. Yeah, it's essential. Bob's hardware is not essential. Sorry, Bob, Well,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 3: An example of what you're talking about, Peter, what you're saying.
Speaker 3: And I was telling Glasses this. I remember when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, going to make Donalds was a treat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I came from a household.
Speaker 3: You know, I came from I came from a household.
Speaker 3: Limit the income. Not in the forties, not quite, not quite,
Speaker 3: but for the time when you want to make and
Speaker 3: I remember my mom took me one morning before school
Speaker 3: to go get an egg mc muffin. That was my
Speaker 3: favorite sandwich at the time. Right, So the egg mc muffin,
Speaker 3: the the bun was toasted, it had butter on it
Speaker 3: in the crevices like it was a really great thing.
Speaker 3: It was just prepared with love and care. Now, if
Speaker 3: you go buy a egg mc muffin, it's cold. Usually
Speaker 3: the bread ain't been toasted at all. It's hard. Sometimes
Speaker 3: the egg maybe look cold.
Speaker 1: Well, any anything, anytime something becomes uh, what's the word.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for, simple line process?
Speaker 1: No, No, it's something that takets like it becomes too
Speaker 1: easily available. God damn it, I'm losing my mind.
Speaker 3: A product is too readily available, it becomes.
Speaker 1: U called uh.
Speaker 2: Yeh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Convenient. That's that's convenient. Convenience is the killer of quality.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: We've had a powder about this. We talked about this
Speaker 1: peep where social media has destroyed attention, well, attention attention.
Speaker 1: I explained this attention and and and connection used to
Speaker 1: be agents of care, like they were agents personal agents
Speaker 1: of care, like if you pay think about it, and
Speaker 1: I said this in nineteen twelve, if you liked the girl,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like to show her you
Speaker 1: liked her required a shitload of work, Like you had
Speaker 1: to walk for just writing her a letter. You had
Speaker 1: to get your little feather and ink and you had
Speaker 1: to do all this. You had to get the letter
Speaker 1: to her. Whatever you had to do for her to
Speaker 1: pay her attention was super duper tedies. It was a
Speaker 1: ton of work. So at that point, if somebody paid
Speaker 1: you attention, you could pretty much bet they cared for you.
Speaker 1: If you connected with someone, you could pretty much bet
Speaker 1: they cared for you. Like right, this is something that
Speaker 1: is of your ara. Still Back in the day when
Speaker 1: people were fans of rappers or musicians and they used
Speaker 1: to have a thing on the back of the they
Speaker 1: used to have to address on the back to write
Speaker 1: the fan club. You knew you had a real fan
Speaker 1: because you had to write a letter and say you
Speaker 1: liked them, and they sent you a letter back that
Speaker 1: was usually something cheesy or from a mass processor. But
Speaker 1: that type of fandom where you had to write that
Speaker 1: letter showed a differentferent type of devotion, a different connection
Speaker 1: that attention, and that's why these people are so big
Speaker 1: versus today people don't even people think they have fans.
Speaker 1: They don't because somebody to be a fan literally just
Speaker 1: clicks one button on their phone.
Speaker 3: That's the interest. And there's too much access to that artist. Now,
Speaker 3: I want to go back to something like with McDonald's.
Speaker 3: At one time, having excellent food was their priority. Right
Speaker 3: then it became about service.
Speaker 1: Their priority wasn't excellent.
Speaker 3: Oh don't listen to you. I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 1: That was a second.
Speaker 3: It was a it was a better product. But then
Speaker 3: it became about speed of service.
Speaker 1: That was always the first thing because.
Speaker 3: People wanted to come in and get out. They wanted
Speaker 3: to get people in just so we know that was
Speaker 3: that was the first thing. Oh this this is something
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, bro, because I have a buddy that
Speaker 3: owns a restaurant right there, owns two or three McDonald's
Speaker 3: and Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Right just listen to this. Let me say this for you, Jay,
Speaker 1: that McDonald's marketing was always fast food.
Speaker 2: That's it was. It was good food fast not just
Speaker 2: it was just fast food.
Speaker 3: I'm really what I know. It was good food with fast.
Speaker 1: Service, fast service.
Speaker 3: Quality was the quality wasn't sacrifice then that though they.
Speaker 1: Didn't obviously sacrifice to some degree.
Speaker 3: No, Well, look at the difference. Sure, we talk about
Speaker 3: this all the time. You have in and Out in
Speaker 3: Chick fil A, very good customer service, fast food. I
Speaker 3: don't care how long the line was in Chakee fil A.
Speaker 3: I'm out of there within six minutes. I don't care
Speaker 3: if the line is going all the way back down
Speaker 3: to the main street, right. But it's quick, it's fast,
Speaker 3: and they do it with a smile. They don't give
Speaker 3: your attitude. Versus if you go to McDonald's, you're able
Speaker 3: to get cussed out if they make a mistake on
Speaker 3: your order and you go back here and talking to
Speaker 3: them about it. I've had people tell me, man, you
Speaker 3: get your ass off my restaurant. I've had people tell
Speaker 3: me that, and I've gotten into arguments with people because
Speaker 3: and then that's a difference as well, because Shake fil
Speaker 3: A as well as in and Out, they both pay
Speaker 3: their employees a really living way.
Speaker 1: But it's not it's not just the money still, it's
Speaker 1: it's the It's the same thing we talked about initially,
Speaker 1: which is like in and out, it's still a Christian
Speaker 1: based business. It's is a Christian based business as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the moral standings of it all is completely different. How
Speaker 1: people morally make their employees carry themselves is different.
Speaker 2: And as soon as you.
Speaker 1: Don't, I don't know, if you hire better, you just
Speaker 1: have I think these people still are the same pieces
Speaker 1: of ship anywhere else. But I think once you come
Speaker 1: to this job, if you want to I do think
Speaker 1: it has something to do with the money. If you
Speaker 1: want to keep making this money and have these benefits,
Speaker 1: you better act like this exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the same arc of profit modeling
Speaker 2: I was talking about before. I mean, the longer you
Speaker 2: the more you squeeze the lemon, the shittier the juice
Speaker 2: is gonna be.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So with McDonald they've been around a long time. They're
Speaker 2: is super convenient. Yeah, and they're and there conglomerates. So
Speaker 2: it went like like in and out right now their
Speaker 2: materials are in house and they're cooked. The learning curve
Speaker 2: for McDonald's to get a little extra two percent out
Speaker 2: of it was to do it elsewhere and bring it
Speaker 2: in so they and you get a little two percent
Speaker 2: out of the labor, little two percent out of material,
Speaker 2: little two percent here, a little two percent there. Well,
Speaker 2: that's a slippery scale. So then next thing you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're you've deviated really really far from original quality standards.
Speaker 2: Whereas In and Out and Chick fil A, they're still
Speaker 2: revenue relationships with their with their income numbers. You know,
Speaker 2: they're privately owned. I mean it's like nobody owns in
Speaker 2: and Out That lady owns in and Out.
Speaker 1: Chick fil A is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's closed on Sundays. Chick fil A is
Speaker 3: also glowed on Sundays and does very well profit wise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as soon if Chick fil A is ever
Speaker 2: on the s and P. Five hundred and bought out
Speaker 2: by some other entity, if if it's.
Speaker 3: Them Sundays being closed on Sundays.
Speaker 2: That'll be done. Yeah, They'll say that they're prejudice against
Speaker 2: non Christians and they'll open up on Sunday's first day.
Speaker 2: Like if I'm Young Brand who owns KFC and all that,
Speaker 2: if Young Brand consumes Chick fil A, all that will change.
Speaker 2: Their model will change radically, and they'll spike up the
Speaker 2: profit ratio. For the first few years, everybody will sell
Speaker 2: their stock everybody'll make a bunch of money, and then
Speaker 2: it'll just flounder and mediocrity to eternity.
Speaker 3: M Facts, facts, I've seen it. I've seen it throughout
Speaker 3: my lifetime. I remember talking to my grandfather at one
Speaker 3: time and he told me that at one time McDonald's
Speaker 3: had the best hamburgers around.
Speaker 1: I don't think McDonald's ever had forgive me for questioning,
Speaker 1: Pops rest in peace, I'm saying. I think McDonald's was
Speaker 1: the greatest combination of getting your ship now and being
Speaker 1: good because because outside of that there were places who
Speaker 1: sold hamburgers. I'm sure we're better. I could get a
Speaker 1: better right now. I could get a better hamburger than
Speaker 1: a lot of places.
Speaker 3: But I can get a better hamburger right now on
Speaker 3: Western Avenue somewhere somewhere on period over there, you know,
Speaker 3: at a little hole in the wall. I could take
Speaker 3: you to a hole in the wall right now, gee
Speaker 3: that it had the best hamburger you ever had. You'd
Speaker 3: be like, damn, how come this place? Same fact?
Speaker 1: But not me because I ate a Hawkins before, so
Speaker 1: I had I had the three beers and hawks. Your
Speaker 1: life over there, but you may lose your life.
Speaker 2: Is that the spot straight from the niggas.
Speaker 1: Yeah so, But the point I'm saying is McDonald's first
Speaker 1: business model was fast fullard that the way they turn
Speaker 1: their business around was the speed of service of a
Speaker 1: quality burger right in and out is the first drive through.
Speaker 1: Burger King floundered around till they came up with the Whopper.
Speaker 1: The Whopper forced McDonald's to make the Big Mac. Took
Speaker 1: like nine years and under.
Speaker 3: And you know what one thing I will say is
Speaker 3: Burger King still has a certain quality to their food.
Speaker 3: Burger King actually has pretty decent food sometimes.
Speaker 1: Because they're all there, ain't They all probably on too.
Speaker 3: I believe there are some corporate and privately on ones.
Speaker 2: They're on the stock exchansion.
Speaker 1: Are they franchise right?
Speaker 3: Franchise for sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah so I think that goes back to that. But still,
Speaker 1: this was the original question, and I'm glad I got
Speaker 1: you here. I was telling Pete all of this stuff
Speaker 1: started to happen, the influence change in America when it
Speaker 1: stopped being one nation under God. And Pete, who is
Speaker 1: who probably would consider themselves an atheist but not really right.
Speaker 3: Is agnostic.
Speaker 2: I would classify myself as indifferent and I don't mean
Speaker 2: that sarcastically. I mean, but I know what, Yeah, there
Speaker 2: might be a god. That's great. I hope that there is.
Speaker 2: I hope that the people who have faith. I hope
Speaker 2: that my stuff.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm gonna conduct myself like that one regardless that's agnostic.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna conduct myself as if there were one.
Speaker 2: Regards well either way, I just look at this. There
Speaker 2: might be a God that might not be. I can't
Speaker 2: do anything about it either way, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: know either way either.
Speaker 1: I'm like I got some sis. Okay. So still we
Speaker 1: were saying that because it started off the conversation was
Speaker 1: about what's going on with target and how this war
Speaker 1: is getting super nasty, whereas, like, you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: a there's genuinely a huge population of people that believe
Speaker 1: like the lgbt Q is targeting children to turn them homosexual.
Speaker 1: Oh well no, not a no.
Speaker 3: The moment you start playing, the moment you start talking
Speaker 3: about sexual identity to children and places to where sexual
Speaker 3: identity shouldn't matter, there's no reason they should be talking
Speaker 3: about that on SESS.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're talking about Let me.
Speaker 3: Get this off really quick, one nation under God. There
Speaker 3: was a time in the seventies and the eighties to
Speaker 3: where anything sexual wouldn't be on Sesame Street or something
Speaker 3: like that. It just wouldn't talk about it. Why are
Speaker 3: you talking to a bunch of five or six year
Speaker 3: olds about their sexual identity? They're not even thinking about
Speaker 3: that at that point.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they're talking to firels about that, Like.
Speaker 3: They just turned gonzo Gonzo is a transvese type.
Speaker 1: Now, Wow, that a trans doesn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with sex itself.
Speaker 3: Well, well, what doesn't have anything to do with you
Speaker 3: change somebody's sexual identity? No, it's all sexual identity.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's like your sex. Right, it's not quite
Speaker 1: about sex like male and females. Not quite about like
Speaker 1: sex the way you're talking about it. Like I was
Speaker 1: telling my whole way about drag queens and I was like,
Speaker 1: he was talking about he he was talking about how
Speaker 1: the drag queens was teaching the kids, and he was like, man,
Speaker 1: why are they introducing dragon? I'm like, really, that's just
Speaker 1: a person who wants to dress funny, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: are they really intro And I'm honestly asking, I know
Speaker 1: people gonna be talking ship. But are they really trying
Speaker 1: to introduce sex itself to five and six year olds?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think they are you know, non binary kid, donella,
Speaker 3: he went from that.
Speaker 1: Don't have nothing to that, don't have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with actual sex outside of the physical big properties of
Speaker 1: a male or female.
Speaker 3: Well, I take you this before I get in trouble.
Speaker 3: But America, America is on this way that going. Heal
Speaker 3: in the hand basket right now, man, the heal in
Speaker 3: the hand basket right now. The basic principles on which
Speaker 3: America was found that every man should have a right
Speaker 3: to carry a gun. You know, look stuff like that,
Speaker 3: every man should have a right to carry a gun.
Speaker 3: All of our basic ideologies of what made this America
Speaker 3: are under attack right now.
Speaker 1: What about the fact of freedom to be who you are?
Speaker 3: You can't You've always been. But that don't mean you
Speaker 3: have to shove it down my throat. To shove it
Speaker 3: down my throat to Peter's.
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa language language here.
Speaker 3: Because the transitional community, they're.
Speaker 1: So you're picking the tea out of there right now.
Speaker 1: So you're thinking just the t.
Speaker 2: Yeah, years ago it was the g you know, it's
Speaker 2: just it's just changed, and no one.
Speaker 3: Had a problem with it because nobody was talking about it. Right.
Speaker 3: You're always gonna have your biggoted people, right. You always
Speaker 3: gonna have biggoted right bigger than people. Right. But America
Speaker 3: was always the land of freedom to be who you are.
Speaker 3: Like Peter, he has certain religious beliefs of non religious beliefs,
Speaker 3: that's fine me and him. I'm still he's one of
Speaker 3: my people, and I'm a guy to go openly out
Speaker 3: there Peter.
Speaker 1: So your issue would be Peter if he went around
Speaker 1: preaching to people about not being religious, like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in God, or if I.
Speaker 2: Went around Sunday schools to Impressionable six exactly, and your
Speaker 2: way off.
Speaker 3: It's like anyone to me, to me as a Christian,
Speaker 3: anyone is an enemy of God is my enemy. And Peter,
Speaker 3: I don't. I wouldn't classify Peter as necessarily an enemy
Speaker 3: of God. He's a God that's just indifferent towards everything.
Speaker 3: That's his right to hav an opinions.
Speaker 1: But you know that's the opposite. You know, the opposite
Speaker 1: of love is indifference. The opposite of God would be
Speaker 1: in difference.
Speaker 3: Well, this is how I look. This is what Christianity
Speaker 3: tells us, right, It tells us to love everyone, but
Speaker 3: hate the sin, hate the sin, but love everyone. It's like,
Speaker 3: just because I'm a Christian, don't mean I got a
Speaker 3: right go out there antagonize trans people or do whatever.
Speaker 3: They got a right to do whatever they want to. Right.
Speaker 3: But the moment you start bringing it to my house
Speaker 3: and trying to preach your ideology to my kids, that's
Speaker 3: when we have a problem.
Speaker 1: My listen, what's crazy is when I looked at it right,
Speaker 1: and back to my original point, I digress about being
Speaker 1: a liberal. My issue with all this is it's not
Speaker 1: so much the pride or the kids section. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to really worry. And this is why it actually goes
Speaker 1: with what you're saying still, and it goes with Peter
Speaker 1: saying state is having way too much influence between parent
Speaker 1: and child. That's my greatest concern right now. Like a child,
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old girl in California can go get
Speaker 1: an abortion and her parents would never know.
Speaker 3: That's lead that man and say it.
Speaker 1: But like and they can go get it on school
Speaker 1: campus and their parents will never know.
Speaker 2: Residents of a state that said we're not going to
Speaker 2: allow minors to get abortion in the state of California,
Speaker 2: will fly you out, put you at a hotel and
Speaker 2: give you your abortion and send you back to your parents'
Speaker 2: MoMA is the word.
Speaker 3: And that's what I think, and that's why we see
Speaker 3: in the frag that's why we're seeing our society being
Speaker 3: ripped apart right now.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying. I think the more
Speaker 1: state gets in between parents and children, see, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, minus the LGBTQ shit, just like
Speaker 1: you were saying, Pete, it don't matter the movement. It
Speaker 1: don't matter the fucking movement. Dog, it does not matter
Speaker 1: the fucking movement. Like what matters is people being able
Speaker 1: to instruct and guide their children they the way they
Speaker 1: want to, versus somebody saying this is how it has
Speaker 1: to be done.
Speaker 3: And that's why you got kids in their house right now.
Speaker 3: She's telling their parents what they are and what they're
Speaker 3: not going to do in some cases. And this has
Speaker 3: always been going on when they started. I remember in
Speaker 3: the eighties they started sending police officers to schools because
Speaker 3: it came in under the guys of abuse, right, they
Speaker 3: would come to the schools and tell kids, Hey, if
Speaker 3: your parents are hitting on you, were touching on you
Speaker 3: in any kind of way, you can call the police
Speaker 3: on them. That went from being you know about abuse
Speaker 3: and situations of abuse to where if your parents was
Speaker 3: gonna whoop your ass because we got whoopings back in
Speaker 3: the day. That's why you don't hear about whoopings no more. Remember,
Speaker 3: g I know your mom used to whoop your ass.
Speaker 1: Knock my teeth out, Peter.
Speaker 3: I'm guarantee you if you got out of line the house,
Speaker 3: your daddy whooped your ass and punished you in some
Speaker 3: kind of way.
Speaker 2: Right, there were consequences at the house, exactly.
Speaker 3: There were consequences, not necessarily beaten getting your ass, you know.
Speaker 3: But I come from the area to where we got swatted,
Speaker 3: and we got swatted in school, and guess what happened.
Speaker 3: She Ultimately, if you didn't want to get swatted, there
Speaker 3: was a change of head if you thought about what
Speaker 3: you did in school, because you might get swatted. And
Speaker 3: I had a principal name Miss Peart. She had a
Speaker 3: paddle dude that holes in the leather ronner and it hurts.
Speaker 1: So the ass me could come out of the b
Speaker 1: Walton Middle School had that she hit your fucking hand,
Speaker 1: tell your shit.
Speaker 3: Up, and different consequences. You you ultimately decided, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna act right because I might. I don't want to
Speaker 3: get swatted. And if you got swatted and got reported,
Speaker 3: it was better to get swatted at school and your
Speaker 3: parents didn't know about it. But if you got a
Speaker 3: note sent to your house because fuck is giving you
Speaker 3: the note hand, they would mail that motherfucker to your house. Right.
Speaker 3: If I got that, I was gonna get another ask
Speaker 3: you in school fucking up because there was a more
Speaker 3: value placed on how you behave and doing what was
Speaker 3: socially acceptable at the time. Now you can have kids
Speaker 3: walking down the street that cussing each other out. I'm
Speaker 3: hearing little girls telling their friends to see each other
Speaker 3: suck my dick diiction And it's like you looking at
Speaker 3: these little girls, man, these little girls nineteen years old,
Speaker 3: like what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Should have got out of spank stupid ass man?
Speaker 3: Then the thing you're going to jail, you know, because
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the greatest problem. And this is
Speaker 1: where I enjoy being a cowboy. I'm not worried. I'm
Speaker 1: not tripping off going to jail to make a point. See,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where parenting has to go for children. See,
Speaker 1: we keep trying to make changes to the state, you know,
Speaker 1: the government. They not going They're in a progressive place
Speaker 1: that makes sense to them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out their families next hundred years.
Speaker 1: The whole democratic system, the whole Republican system, is trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the next hundred two hundred years for themselves.
Speaker 1: So I don't think they'll make changes. I think parents
Speaker 1: have to get back to a space where they're not
Speaker 1: worried about going to jail. See my mama whooped my
Speaker 1: ass like she wasn't worried about going to jail. My
Speaker 1: dad would shot me like he's not worried about going
Speaker 1: to jail. And raising me correctly became more important than
Speaker 1: their freedom itself, exactly.
Speaker 3: And as a parent, that's where I always was was
Speaker 3: making sure because I come from the school of this,
Speaker 3: when you in the household and you live in your parents' house,
Speaker 3: you don't have no motherfucking rights. That's crazy until you
Speaker 3: until you get I'm talking about for children, right when
Speaker 3: you were in when you were in somebody's household. When
Speaker 3: I was at my mama's house, you know what my
Speaker 3: rights was living under her guidelines, her and my daddy's rules,
Speaker 3: and if I and if I violated those rules, there
Speaker 3: was consequences. Sometimes it to be just getting sent to
Speaker 3: your room for the weekend, you not being able to
Speaker 3: go nowhere. Sometimes it was going to go pick you
Speaker 3: a branch from offside off a tree to get your
Speaker 3: ass whoop. And guess what. That very much kept me
Speaker 3: in line, because I'm gonna tell you this, My mama
Speaker 3: had a heavy ass hand and she didn't mind slapping
Speaker 3: the shut out her ass, she didn't mind throwing a
Speaker 3: shoe at your ass, and whatever the fuck it was,
Speaker 3: you had consequences to your behavior, and if you talk back,
Speaker 3: you could go get dealt with. Guess what. I maybe
Speaker 3: not as parents, I'm not one to necessarily believe in
Speaker 3: putting my hands on my kids playing, but they definitely
Speaker 3: had consequences.
Speaker 1: To see, so you fucked it up?
Speaker 3: No, because where I Maria was the ballance Maria whooped ass.
Speaker 3: So long as something like Maria whooped ass, it's usually
Speaker 3: the opposite. Now, don't get me wrong, because I would
Speaker 3: see out all my children. Christopher probably got more ass
Speaker 3: than everybody Christmas always getting his ass tore through in
Speaker 3: the room because he was rebellious and he didn't give
Speaker 3: a fuck about a whooping. He was a cowboy. I
Speaker 3: remember one day he was getting hit by his mom.
Speaker 3: She was so freaking because he wouldn't cry. He just
Speaker 3: stuned and stuff her face like that, don't hurt.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a real story. One of the
Speaker 1: last times I can remember getting my ass whooped by
Speaker 1: my mom about Olivia rest in peace. I was probably
Speaker 1: about fifteen, so I already grew. I'm about five ten, fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe even thirteen, but I'm about five ten, right,
Speaker 1: So my mom whooping My mom is five eleven, three
Speaker 1: hundred pounds rest or so. And she punched like a dude.
Speaker 1: But like you know, she got some nice size and
Speaker 1: she a lady, so her hands was little stands ain't
Speaker 1: as big as my shit. She was whooping my ass
Speaker 1: with her hand. Then she got a belt. She's swipping
Speaker 1: the bell and I'm looking back at her like this
Speaker 1: shit ain't nothing. Like I'm like this ain't nothing. She
Speaker 1: whipped my as I looked back at her like she
Speaker 1: looked at me. I looked back at her. She looked
Speaker 1: at me again, and she kept trying to whoop me harder.
Speaker 1: And it just was not mattering. It didn't hurt. I
Speaker 1: look back again, and when I tell you that right
Speaker 1: hand came. Why when I tell you I was crying, boy,
Speaker 1: I was crying.
Speaker 3: Boy.
Speaker 1: That shit was darne. My mom still is top five.
Speaker 1: I didn't been there probably about fights with about thirty
Speaker 1: forty different people. My mama is still top five hardest
Speaker 1: punches I ever got punched by. Still somewhere in that
Speaker 1: top five.
Speaker 3: As it should be because I had a mama that
Speaker 3: was on the same stuff. Me and my brothers always
Speaker 3: talk about her. Remember my mama stole on you because
Speaker 3: you was gonna get functioned the mouth. If you acted
Speaker 3: like something in her, you was bam. Even now to
Speaker 3: this day is a grown man. My mom would joke
Speaker 3: around sometimes say don't make me get my switch.
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