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Speaker 1: I greatly appreciate everyone that listens. You make this all possible.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to start with Friday night and we

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Speaker 1: But toughness really matters. Watching Georgia right now, shove around

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Speaker 1: John middlecop instagram firing those dms. I know everyone has

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I was thinking today? Watch Bowers.

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Speaker 1: He had a touchdown earlier in this game. I would

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Speaker 1: and he told like charts some stuff and he told

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Speaker 1: me that remember bigging his brain about Deon Sanders, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, the funny part about Deon Sanders

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Speaker 1: as everyone sees him, like, talks a bunch and he,

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Speaker 1: like he's a big screw around guy. He's like Deon

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Speaker 1: Sanders sat in the front row of my meetings every

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Speaker 1: one of the more impressive preparers I've ever seen as

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Speaker 1: a football coach. And I think you see Deon Sanders

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Speaker 1: big mouth screw obviously a great player, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Deon Sanders, do not let that fool you. Deon Sanders

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Speaker 1: is locked and loaded. Deon Sanders was a guy that

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Speaker 1: took practice very seriously. Deon Sanders was a guy that

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Speaker 1: took the preparation very seriously. Deon Sanders was a guy

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Speaker 1: that liked to be coached. So when you hear these stories,

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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, it's not that shocking. The Dean Sanders

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Speaker 1: kicked assid Jackson State, and think I remember a lot

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Speaker 1: of coaches, like a lot of former players just want

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Speaker 1: to go right to the NFL or like Power five

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Speaker 1: to be a head coach. Dean Sanders went to Jackson

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Speaker 1: State and now he's going to Colorado. I think Colorado

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Speaker 1: is one of the worst Power five jobs in the country.

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Speaker 1: And if Dean Sanders can be competitive there, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: the sky's limit. Like should Alabama hire him? Because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. Mike McDaniels might be my spirit animal.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell from these meetings, but I run a

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Speaker 1: broadcast department was similar thoughts. Serious question though, what percentage

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Speaker 1: of current Miami Dolphin roster actually see have seen Acepentura

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Speaker 1: should be part of the onboarding hasn't aged well either,

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Speaker 1: but slam it in there. I was thinking the other

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Speaker 1: day when you were talking about Sean McDermott and how

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Speaker 1: tidy is sports, and essentially football is kind of like

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Speaker 1: modern military, where young men stay fit for war. But

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Speaker 1: as society progressed, there's still a human value in watching

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Speaker 1: mankind compete for physical prowse. It's almost still a relic

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Speaker 1: of how animalistic we are. But it's funny because still

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Speaker 1: a game, so a dude like McDaniels can't exist. That

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Speaker 1: was an interest interesting comment. Yeah, Obviously football and war

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Speaker 1: have always been used. You know, football coaches us that

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Speaker 1: major difference. People die in war. We know it's used

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Speaker 1: as a you know, as an example that uses analogies,

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Speaker 1: that uses motivation. We all know you can't die on

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Speaker 1: the football field. But I hear you. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: really know what to say to that USC lost. If

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Speaker 1: TC loses to Kansas State, do you think Michigan versus

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Speaker 1: Ohio State first round game? Yes, my prediction is Georgia one.

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Speaker 1: Georgia Wright no hows up thirty five to seven and

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Speaker 1: beating the crap at LSU, so I would go Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I think Michigan's two Ohio State's three. My gut tells

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Speaker 1: me Alabama gets in. I know people people think I'm crazy,

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Speaker 1: but hey John. Following USC's lost to Utah in the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelfth Championship, it was clear that USC's defense struggled

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Speaker 1: against Utah's power offense. USC's tackling, in particular, looked very

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Speaker 1: poor during the game. Do you think Lincoln Riley can

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Speaker 1: improve their defense going into year two? What's never been

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Speaker 1: easier to turn something around fast. Look at Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 1: That team went four and eight last year. He gets

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Speaker 1: all these transfer portal guys, including the quarterback, and they

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Speaker 1: went eleven and two. Crazy part about the way Lincoln

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Speaker 1: just got clowned is that it puts like a dark

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Speaker 1: cloud over the season when he's had a remarkable season.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wonder if Lincoln Riley would have been

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Speaker 1: better off being ten in two and not even going

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Speaker 1: to that game than losing it, because it was remarkable

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Speaker 1: what he did. The program was dead. He saved the program.

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Speaker 1: Now he's gonna be held due. You don't give someone

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars. They hired him to

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Speaker 1: win national championships, not compete to win them, and it

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Speaker 1: starts with defense. So to me, can he find guys

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Speaker 1: from the SEC. That's where I'd start, the SEC linebackers,

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman in the transfer portal. So when Auburn, if

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze doesn't want a guy and he's in the

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Speaker 1: transfer portal, like, does he make your team better? Does

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Speaker 1: he help you potentially win the conference and get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? So to me, the number one thing is

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Speaker 1: the front. They have to get better up front because

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Speaker 1: that defensive line and linebackers. From my eye tests, it's

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Speaker 1: like what is going on in Utah, who always has

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Speaker 1: good running backs? Just ran the ball down the throat.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was bad. It's got to start with recruiting.

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Speaker 1: And recruiting now isn't eighteen year olds. You can get

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Speaker 1: twenty year olds. You can get a guy from Alabama

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Speaker 1: or Florida or transfer players. And to me, they really

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Speaker 1: really need to take advantage of the transfer portld on defense,

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Speaker 1: defense and enjoin your segment on the pass. And I

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Speaker 1: agree with what you said. It's hard to get around

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Speaker 1: the fact that Joe and Matt would not be coaching

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Speaker 1: the offense if Bill didn't have six Super Bowls as

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Speaker 1: a head coach. I think the bigger issue is the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Pats are behind the times when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the front office. The COVID years started, Pats

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Speaker 1: were not going to make the playoffs. Also, being in

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Speaker 1: cap Hill, any other franchise would have traded everyone on

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Speaker 1: the roster and gotten a top five pick. Bill decided

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Speaker 1: to win as many games as he could, not thinking

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Speaker 1: long term, especially given the fact the team had no chance.

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Speaker 1: Accumulating draft capital is the name of the game, even

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Speaker 1: the Lions are doing that. After the COVID year, he

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Speaker 1: decided to sign Vet's expensive contracts instead of trying to

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Speaker 1: build through the draft. The Bengals don't have a good

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Speaker 1: head coach, but are going to be competing for championships

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Speaker 1: because they have the two best top picks in recent history.

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Speaker 1: They're even picked a wide receiver at four and it

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Speaker 1: still worked. I think he was actually five, but I

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Speaker 1: know what you mean. My pushback is, anytime Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: is your head coach, you're not gonna plun on a season.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think going seven and ten with Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton whouldn't complete a pass is pretty remarkable accomplishment. That's

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Speaker 1: just not Bill's style and the reason they stink right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could argue who would he have traded

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Speaker 1: that season? Who would he have traded in twenty twenty mccordy,

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Speaker 1: he had a bunch of guys sitting out. Who's his

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Speaker 1: best player that year? On offense, it's like rookie running

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Speaker 1: backs Like I, I don't know if they actually have

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Speaker 1: like crazy tradeable assets. So when you say they should

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Speaker 1: have tanked and got a top five pick, I guess

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Speaker 1: you're just being trade everyone and suck. I hear you,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. I just I don't think that's the

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Speaker 1: guy's mindset, you know. In the difference with the Lions,

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Speaker 1: like the Lions rarely ever make the playoffs, like Bill

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year, Do you know what the

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Speaker 1: Lions would do? Everyone always gets mad at me to

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Speaker 1: go ten and seven, And I actually bet a buddy dinner.

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Speaker 1: I think the Lions have a chick. We'll go, We'll

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs next year. I think they will be

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Speaker 1: very competitive next year, but that would be an outlier

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Speaker 1: season from what they typically have. So I'm betting, hopefully

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Speaker 1: just on the talent, which I easily could be wrong

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Speaker 1: because their coach, who knows if he's any good. And

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Speaker 1: if you gave Belichick next year's Lions team, right, Jamison

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Speaker 1: Williams coming back this week with all the guys they have,

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Speaker 1: and then a top five pick and another top twelve pick, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would take we would all pick the Lions and

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, even with Gothic quarterback. But it doesn't

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Speaker 1: guarantee you anything. So Belichick went ten and seven last year,

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Speaker 1: probably go nine and eighth this year. I would probably

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Speaker 1: miss the playoffs this year. But I think he's just

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Speaker 1: trying to compete. I mean, he's at the point of

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Speaker 1: sports compete. I know everyone wants to tank and suck

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Speaker 1: suck for who like even Belichick with a shitty team

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Speaker 1: is it'd be hard for him to get a top

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Speaker 1: five pick. You gave him the Texans, Like they're not

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Speaker 1: getting the number one pick now, they're not winning seven games,

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Speaker 1: but they're probably drafting seventh or eight, not one. He's

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Speaker 1: just too good of a coach. He just has too

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Speaker 1: many wrinkles. His defense is going to be too good.

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Speaker 1: So I hear what you say, and I think it

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Speaker 1: does have some validity, But I think you got a

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Speaker 1: factor in Belichick. And when Belichick's your head coach, you

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Speaker 1: know your floor is going to be so much higher

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Speaker 1: than crappy teams. Appreciate everyone hitting me up at John

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Speaker 1: Middle Coffence Instagram at John Middle Coffence Instagram, firing those

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