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Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald my next guest to say tattoos and

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Speaker 1: a return returning yuest because the first time, you know,

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Speaker 1: media influencer and has opened her own tattoo shop in

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Speaker 1: Please welcome back to money making conversations. I'm proud to

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Speaker 1: say that cat cat what's her girl? Hey, Hey, thank

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Speaker 1: when I when I when you know, it's always a

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Speaker 1: journey with everything. That's that's the proximly about seven months

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Speaker 1: that moment. So let's talk about that journey where yet

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Speaker 1: right now? I love First of all, I can tell

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Speaker 1: So it took me a while to get it figured out.

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Speaker 1: And um, finally I feel like I got my purpose back,

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Speaker 1: And why you chose this location? Um, it's Beverly Hills

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that bring them out as they said, you know

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Speaker 1: And I want to thank you for coming on the show,

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Speaker 1: Bill Duke. God, bless you, my brother. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Hey Bill, how are you doing, my friend? I'm blessed man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on your show. Well, first

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Speaker 1: And we teach young people who are interested in our industry.

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Speaker 1: Uh two things. One is media literacy. We've gone from

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Speaker 1: the second thing we teach young people is financial literacy.

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Speaker 1: We are taught how to spend money, but now to

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Speaker 1: the age group that participates in this in your foundation program?

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Speaker 1: They're high schools from fourteen to eighteen years old, and

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Speaker 1: To create content. We call it entertainment and we don't

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Speaker 1: think about, uh without you know, because we don't know everything,

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Speaker 1: but you know there are issues that raise their heads

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Speaker 1: that should be addressed and you can do it in

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Speaker 1: an entertaining way. So we try our best to do that.

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Speaker 1: And so um, that's that's that's our goal. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know the interesting thing about having a production company, because

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Speaker 1: I have one, is and but yours is way more

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Speaker 1: advanced in mind, Bill, and is that when you think

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Speaker 1: about how do people what are the wrong the incorrect

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Speaker 1: way that people present ideas to try to pitch ideas

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Speaker 1: to you? Aught your production company if you can give

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Speaker 1: by by listeners, uh quick, how to and how don't

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Speaker 1: to pitch an idea? Well, first of all, um, today

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Speaker 1: pitching an idea UM A lot of the creative executives

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Speaker 1: in our industry or accountant and you know you're going

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Speaker 1: to pitch an idea verbally. I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself better if you have what it's called the

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Speaker 1: deck and it's a visual digital presentation of the vision. Um,

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Speaker 1: who is your basic audience? How many of them are there?

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Speaker 1: What is your gender, et cetera. Have a little sizzle

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Speaker 1: reel would be great, and have the script plus a synopsis.

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Speaker 1: But to answer your vital questions, I used to go

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Speaker 1: pitching with passion and all kinds of well my grandfather,

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Speaker 1: great grandfather with a slave or whatever, and that of that.

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Speaker 1: This is why it's important. And I pitched those ideas

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Speaker 1: and I go back to my agent because no one

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Speaker 1: picked the ideas up, and I said, what in the name,

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Speaker 1: but what's going on? And so he said, hey, Bill,

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Speaker 1: did you answer the essential questions in the first three

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Speaker 1: minutes of the pitch? Said? What is that question? He said, Bill,

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Speaker 1: what they want to know is I want to hell,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make me my money back. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I never thought about that. But you can't

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Speaker 1: have all the past that you want if you can't

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Speaker 1: tell them how you can make them the money back

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Speaker 1: and ain't gonna work too Well, that's not gonna work

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Speaker 1: at all. So that's so. It means they definitely having

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Speaker 1: that deck. And I also have a sense of what

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Speaker 1: a per episode costs is gonna be if that's if

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Speaker 1: you're talking about because I was talking to a president

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Speaker 1: of a network the other day and they asked me, uh,

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Speaker 1: I was talking about a cooking show, he said, immediately asked.

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Speaker 1: He immediately asked me, Okay, what's the prayer? Episode calls

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Speaker 1: and I went, oh, I would uh, let me, let

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Speaker 1: me get back with you. And because you know, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, you know, I had to

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Speaker 1: go there, you know, me, me, me had to go Uh.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect that to come out in this conversation

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Speaker 1: so fast. I like that idea, what's the what's the

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Speaker 1: proy episode costs? I went, uh, because you know you

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Speaker 1: want to throwing the wrong number, throwing the wrong number?

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Speaker 1: Killer deal? Are you throwing the wrong number? And you

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Speaker 1: can lose money because you could have made more money?

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Speaker 1: So you So I hesitated. And so because everybody is

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Speaker 1: talking about digital, they're talking about streaming, they're talking about cable,

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Speaker 1: they're talking about television, and each one of those carry

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Speaker 1: a different price tag on what you can actually charge

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Speaker 1: per episode or what you can accomplish production quality. So

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Speaker 1: it's really amazing that you said that because I was

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Speaker 1: victim of that last week bill. So that's that's what

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Speaker 1: will So let's talk about this book. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this book. Man. I've read the book Bill Duke for

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Speaker 1: your career on screen and behind the camera, um My, my,

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Speaker 1: my first takeaway of this book because you were born

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Speaker 1: and raised and bookkeeps it in New York. That's where IBM.

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Speaker 1: I used to work for IBM. Sorry immediately uh related

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Speaker 1: to that story, UM, tell me about why did you

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Speaker 1: write this book? Bill? Well? I wrote it for several reasons.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's um the legacy from my family, you know. UM,

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Speaker 1: I really wanted people to know about the era in

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Speaker 1: which I grew up in and the people who guided

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Speaker 1: me through that time and writing this book and when

710
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Speaker 1: I was going through it, just the different levels because

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Speaker 1: drugs played a negative role in your life and uh,

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Speaker 1: and you was able to overcome that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that in your in the relationship because

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Speaker 1: you were molested early on by a babysitter and that

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Speaker 1: affected your your your your relationship with women over the years.

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Speaker 1: And but I want I don't want to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about you the pioneer, you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know early days of television, directing hit shows, you know,

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Speaker 1: who I mean Deep Cover, which is one of my

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Speaker 1: all time favorite movies. How did you make that transition

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Speaker 1: to directing? Well, Um, I was directing, uh stage played

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Speaker 1: uh in New York and out here in l A

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Speaker 1: also it's always and I wrote my own stuff, but

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Speaker 1: I was always intimidated by the equipment of you know,

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Speaker 1: by that. And so UM I got um a show

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Speaker 1: called Comatown USA by um you know normally and Alex

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Speaker 1: Silly produced it. I was on a couple of seasons

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Speaker 1: um Janelle Allen and myself, but then I didn't work

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Speaker 1: two years after that, and I said I would, I

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Speaker 1: Film Institute, got in and thank god ahead, I said, wow,

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Speaker 1: shot it around to everybody. They wouldn't take it, and

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741
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Speaker 1: and I wanted to cheap my agent Coos, and he says,

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Speaker 1: Uhdavid Jacobs wanting to see you from not landing music producer.

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Speaker 1: I said what, So I flew. I went back and

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Speaker 1: met with David Jacobs. It was like a strange little meeting,

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Speaker 1: very brief, and then um, for my age, it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. A week later, the agent calls me and said,

747
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Speaker 1: David Jacobs wants you to direct the first episode not Landing.

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Speaker 1: I cheered. I was so happy. Then I went to

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Speaker 1: Walentine comes says, do you know we know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Well the view you turned into David? I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I just got to he's a wait a minute. He

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Speaker 1: goes to the David Jacob's office. David Jacobs had mixed

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Speaker 1: my box up with someone else's. That's why I got

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Speaker 1: my first job. That's a blessing. That's a blessing, but God,

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Speaker 1: God blessing. But also the obviously I was going to

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Speaker 1: tell you was about my first day on Dallas. I

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Speaker 1: the security guard said to me, who are you delivering for?

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Speaker 1: That was that was a moment, and that's all I

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Speaker 1: read that in the book and let everybody know that

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get wear all them nuggets, Bill,

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Speaker 1: But do me a favor. First of all, thank you

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Speaker 1: You're listening to money making conversations. Mighty making conversations is

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Speaker 1: understand that when I say that publicly, Sean McDonald, you

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Speaker 1: Conversation Now, Fisa Williams, thank you what a warm what

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Speaker 1: I'm really mad. Now to make you mad, don't make

850
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: me mad. Because you're a superhero. You're superhero, You're thunder.

851
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: Thunder can make a difference. Now, let's talk about We've

852
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of things to talk about. Your your

853
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: your give back programs, uh, your uplifting programs by Saturday's Dreaming.

854
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it and some of the shows you've

855
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: done before. Let's talk about Black Lightning. How you auditioned

856
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: for that role and how it is so it's changing

857
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: the game for you know, we all know about Black Panther,

858
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: we all know about that, but Black Lightning has carved

859
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: out his own niches is playing very well on Netflix.

860
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: I follow it and I went from CT Did you

861
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: know you're hot when Netflix picked you up a quickly.

862
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: That's a good sign right there that you've got something

863
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: going on. So tell us about how did you audition

864
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: and how your life has changed that you've been associated

865
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: with Black Lightning. Well, I got the call from my

866
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: manager about a year and a half ago that I

867
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: had this all this thing called Black Lightning. I didn't.

868
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: I never I never heard of Black Lightning. Never knew

869
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: that we even had a black superhero along with his

870
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: family that was a part of the d C universe.

871
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: Never knew. So I go, I never knew either. Don't

872
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: worry about it. I never do. I never knew. But

873
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: I get the script and I was like, first of all,

874
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: knowing that Mara instantly mckill over at the helm of

875
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: it all, and they were the writers and the executive producers.

876
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: I knew that this would be a good show because

877
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: their work speaks for itself. I'm a huge fan of

878
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: their work, always wanted to work with them. So I

879
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: was first excited to read the script because I knew

880
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: they were attached to it. So I read the script

881
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just appreciated the story. Most

882
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: superheroes you see are, you know, in their early twenties,

883
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: and here with Black Lightning, you have a middle age

884
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: man with the family who is a high school principle.

885
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: We've just never seen or heard this story before. And

886
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I appreciated the strong, bold, and independent female characters that

887
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: they created within this world. So I went in for

888
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: the job and I was like, listen, y'all y'all looking

889
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: for me. I felt so connected. I felt so connected

890
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: to the character and felt so connected to the story

891
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: that I just really went in so focused, and I said,

892
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: just go in and let them know that you are her.

893
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: And that was just the goal, you know, to go

894
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: in and and show them that I understood this character

895
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: and that I was really wanting to give my voice

896
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: over to her and I under you know, I just

897
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: said everything about her world so um coming from a

898
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: city like Silly, I understand some of the problems that

899
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: that that the city Freeland faces within the show, and

900
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: just wanting to be a voice for that and hopefully

901
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: spark change, you know, with within our country, within our city,

902
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: because you don't see a superhero, you know, with his family,

903
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, you you know, you usually see

904
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: this young superhero flying and jumping all around, and you

905
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: have this family of superheroes and and that's just an

906
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: amazing concept of a really cool idea. And kudo to

907
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: everyone over at d C and Tony, Isabella and Trevor

908
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: who created you know, this, this this character. Yeah, let's

909
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: let's talk about this show. Here about Rushawn McDonald black

910
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: lightning experience, because It's really all about me. Really, you know,

911
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm a fan's a fan. I'm a fan. Okay, So

912
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: so I'm seeing it being promoted. I know. In fact,

913
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know that uh Mara, the slave family had

914
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: been involved, was involved in it at all. I just

915
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: saw this and my first thought was they would not

916
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: have the production quality is a black show. I thought

917
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have the production quality to deliver the special effect.

918
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: That that was my first thought. Rushin had already made

919
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: some preconceived thoughts that he wasn't gonna watch thoughts. These

920
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: are my thoughts, And I'm just trying to be honest,

921
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you know they probably you know

922
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: they do. You know, they're trying to get on the

923
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: hype of the Black Panther dropping this little black show in.

924
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: And you know, I ain't wasted my time because I'm

925
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: a superhero nut by the way, this week okay, okay.

926
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: So so then my wife she knows I'm a superhero nut,

927
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: so she says, she watches the premiere and then she goes,

928
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: you better watch the show. I go, why you best

929
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: watched the show? You're missing something? I said, really really,

930
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: well whatever, so she recalled for three weeks went by.

931
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the show, she said, and she's watching

932
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: it and giving me like updates. Would you stop telling

933
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: me I'm not gonna watch the show so I wish,

934
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: she said. She set me down. I binge watched the

935
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: first three episodes. I've missed and have not missed an

936
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: episode since. You can give me. Give me a quiz

937
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: right now, pass that's how much of a fan because

938
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna telling you why. Because of the fact that,

939
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: first of all, the villains are fantastic. The villains are fantastic.

940
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: That's key to me. You know, do the villains have credibility?

941
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Do you do they throw fear in you? Do? They do?

942
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: They do? They do? They map out? And then all

943
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden there's innate danger that the secret can

944
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I get out? And then the dynamic between their their

945
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: their parents because they're divorced, and she divorced him because

946
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: he was a superhero, because she didn't want to deal

947
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: with the pressure of him fighting crime. The same thing

948
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: her daughter. She I love the fact that the daughter

949
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: got a little to Mama and her I'm talking about

950
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: the younger daughter. And then Thunder, who I'm interviewing right now,

951
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: she got all daddy in her. She all about saving

952
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: the community. She all about stepping out there. Teller were

953
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: right now, she thunder, but she realizes that she can't

954
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: because the people know how to attack and know how

955
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: to get the family. That's why the superheroes can't tell

956
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: her who they are. That's why superheroes really can't have

957
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: loved ones. That's why this show works because the fact

958
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: that they are family and the fact that let's let's

959
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: put his way. Uh, it'd be like the Cosby's superheroes

960
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: because they the fathers of principle. I'm just telling you listening,

961
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: the fathers of principles, that's all. That's a really recognized

962
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: and good job. The moms are scientists. She's a doctor,

963
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: so that's another high profile profession. So you have two

964
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: people who got two beautiful daughters once in high school.

965
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Wants wants your characters finished college? Correct? No, No, she's

966
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: still currently in medical school. I'm saying, boy, your boys

967
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: stand on top his gay And before we go, I

968
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the get back program

969
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Speaker 1: you work with, the Skit Role campaign. Do let's talk

970
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: about that before we go, because I wanted to everybody's

971
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: shape all your lifestyle. You know that you do have

972
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: time for the for individuals, your character that you just

973
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: you do a TV really transcend to your everyday life.

974
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: Tell us about your efforts in the community. Thank you.

975
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: I just believe that, you know, it's our duty to

976
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: serve and to give back, especially when you've been blessed

977
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: so much. Much is given, much is required. And I

978
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,920
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979
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Speaker 1: we're put here to bless each other and too, you know,

980
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: inspire and empower each other. And that's pretty much my

981
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: life mission, I believe. You know, Um, life begins when

982
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: you start to follow your dreams and understand what your purposes.

983
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: And then the once you understand what your purposes, your

984
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: job next is to help the next person, you know,

985
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: discover what THEIRS is and encourage them to follow THEIRS.

986
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: So um, that's just basically you know, I try to

987
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: live by that rule. I go down to ski Role

988
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989
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Speaker 1: And I try to go when I go when I

990
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm not filming, but it's the Peggy

991
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: Beatrice Foundation, and we go down to Steer Road, we closed,

992
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993
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, being a listening ear. And I love doing it.

994
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm most happy when I'm when i'm serving and when

995
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: i'm giving. So um, that's that's definitely one of one

996
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: of my favorite things to be doing. And I get

997
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: please keep doing it real quickly tell everybody about Saturday

998
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: uh Dreaming one more time when we close out the show,

999
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: how they can find it and what exactly it is. Yeah,

1000
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: So Saturday Dreaming is my own, my online bouchik. I'm

1001
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1002
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1003
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1004
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1005
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1006
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1007
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1013
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Speaker 1: I want to see how you look awesome. I want

1014
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: to tell you that Black Lightning she's one of the stars.

1015
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: I wanna let you know that you're the only person

1016
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: I've ever interviewed from Black Lightning. That's not that's saying

1017
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: that I came to you first and you came back.

1018
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: You showed me love. I'm giving love back to you.

1019
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: I love the show. I love all the characters. Keep winning,

1020
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: I really really keep winning. Everybody needs to watch the show,

1021
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1023
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Speaker 1: Thank you, I really appreciate and thanks for having me already. Okay,

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