1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: What was it like when you first checked in your 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: first All Star game? 3 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: And that shit was crazy. I was one of the 4 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: first times I was a little nervous. My hands was 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: real cold, Like I remember I I think I missed 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: my first layup, like yeah, yeah, yeah, the first thing 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm getting to the cup. I feel I'm 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: an airball, like I if I shoot a jump shot. 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm on the bench and I'm looking who's on my team. 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm really on the bench looking like this 11 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: is crazy, not even thinking like I'm just one of 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: them too. But I'm like I'm in the locker room 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: tripping out like I'm the whole both of my All 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Star years. I'm just like, this doesn't even seem real. 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to point game. I can already feel an 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: exciting episode in a way. I'm of course joined by 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: my co host Isaiah Thomas, and this week, you know 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about these trades that are seeming 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: to be happening in a real time. We just got 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: one right before the show. All Star reserves just got announced. 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: We got the complete rosters there, and also our reactions 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to the jerseys at the All Stars is gonna be 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: wearing that weekend, and then of course some quick hits 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: and our no days off segment that we always we 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: do just shine on put some shine on some other players. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: But I t I mean, we were supposed to record 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: this episode yesterday, but good thing we didn't, because literally 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: in the last hour, some crazy trades have happened. First one, 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I think the craziest one to me, Jaron Jackson Junior 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: is on the move to the Jazz. So how are 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: you feeling seeing I think that's like a real that's 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: a first dominance sort of fallen. What I think is 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a crazy trade deadline here. 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. It was a surprise to me that 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: that he got traded at all people, but that's that's 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: probably a domino effect for the rest of the league, 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: especially him going to Utah and they already got like 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: a guy in marketing that plays just like them. But 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: you know, with Danny Aings with Utah Jazz, he's always 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: got something up his sleeves. So I think that's gonna 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: be a domino effect for the rest of the league. Obviously, 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: another trade just happened a little bit ago as well, 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: so I think this is gonna be a crazy little 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: next few couple I mean next next couple of days 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: for sure. 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so we'll talk into like what this means 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: for some of the teams. But obviously you know you've 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: been in the league and you know that this time 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: can be crazy, Like I guess describe that overall feeling. 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Are guys kind of getting nervous? Are they you know, 51 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: is it affecting game play? Are people like not getting 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: too comfortable because it could be them? Like what's the 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: vibe for a player in the league right now? 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: It's a nervous vibe for sure, Like other than the 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: superstars that really know they're not really going nowhere for 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: the most part. Obviously, James Harden situation is crazy, but 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: like it's more so than role players, like you're, you're 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: it's a business. You can get shipped out at any second, 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: and especially during this week, Like it's hard to focus 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: on the game for sure, it's hard to focus on 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: you know, team just because you you know, you could 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: possibly get traded and got to move and and and 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: and get situated in another city. So it's it's definitely 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: a tough week. It's a stressful week for a lot 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: of for a lot of guys. Yeah, but like you know, 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: for the for the normal fan, it's kind of fun. 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: It's like the video game. You just get to, you know, 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: make trades. It seem like trades happened that you don't 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: that you're surprised that will happened. And then once like 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: one trade happens, obviously the Jaron Jackson and then a 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: lot of other teams are about to follow suit for sure. 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Well okay, so let's talk about this Jared Jackson trade 73 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: because we've talked over and over again where's Jar going? 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, his teammate, Jaron Jackson going, 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: and like you said, domino effect, they're rebuilding. But like 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I guess it's like why Jaren and not figure out 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: where Jaw's going first? Because to me, you know, as 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: a fan, it's like Jaren seemed like the most stable piece, 79 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: Like why couldn't you build a team around Jaren, you know, 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: other than you know, what are they getting back here? 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: Here? 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: Let's just outline this. They're getting Walter Clayton, Junior, Kylie Anderson, 83 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Taylor Hendricks, Georgis Yang in three future first round picks, 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: which is a haul, but that's still a lot of 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: what ifs to a guy who has proven himself an 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: All Star and whatnot. So what do you think is 87 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: going through the mind of Memphis as they hold on 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: to jaw right now and get rid of a star 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: in in Triple. 90 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: J They're they're rebuilding is rebuilding time. They're trying to 91 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: figure out what's best for their organization. Obviously, Jaren Jackson 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: is a surprise because you would think John Morant will 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: go first, but I think something else is gonna fall 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: in line. A big piece in this in this trade 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: is Walter Clayton Junior is one of the top, you know, 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: rookie guards. They haven't really got the opportunity in Utah, 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: so it could be a domino effect to where John 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: Moran gets traded. They build around a lottery pick in 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Walter Clayton Junior and then find other pieces and then 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: you said the first future first round picks as well. 101 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: So I think Memphis is in a total rebuild mode. 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: They're trying to get it piece by piece and see 103 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: what they can get out of the guys. And then 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: John Moran's John Moran's next, for sure, He's not about 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: to play in that situation. Right, it was gonna be 106 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: like vice versus. It was gonna be either if John 107 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: Moran got traded first. I don't think Jaron Jackson would 108 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: have wanted to be there and be in that rebuild situation. 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: So it's it's a tough deal, but like that's the 110 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: NBA for you, and so like we'll see what happens next. 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's talk about it on the Jazz side. 112 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, you've been a part of a 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Danny Inge team, Like what do you think he sees 114 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: in bringing Jaren to this team, a team that already 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: has I think two seven footers, Like you said, Jaren 116 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: and Laurie kind of play a little bit similar, like 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: who's moving, Who's who's like commanding that post. I mean 118 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: to me, if I look at that defensively, I don't 119 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: know who's driving on them. No easy baskets with that. 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 2: With that crew, I mean, Danny's probably just adding value, 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: adding guys they have a value, so you can possibly 122 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: make a deal somewhere else with other players on your roster, 123 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Like they got a really good young roster. This exciting. 124 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: He has pieces for the future as well, so you 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: never know what's going through obviously his mind or anybody's 126 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: mind in that situation. But I don't think that's it 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: for Utah. I think there's been a few more trades 128 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: for them and then them add draft picks and add value, 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: so then they can be a contender at some point 130 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: because they haven't like they've been in rear Bill Molt 131 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: the last few years. So something got to click in 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: terms of their timeline for the future. 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I think what's uh we may I think we talked 134 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: about it before, is like the Jazz will get a 135 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: random win against an incredible team, right, so there's this 136 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: flash of optimism in there, right. I think this is 137 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: a move to where as everything gets shaken up next season, 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: like it should be no surprise if the Jazz are contender, 139 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like and like you said, 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: it's like Danny and Sam Presty, like these are guys 141 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: who will just like collect it like random pieces that 142 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: you you kind of see like what they do with 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: them in the future, like the adams of packages that 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: they find value in each of their moves. It's very calculated. 145 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: But like, yeah, George, we've shown we've shown a lot, 146 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Like you give him some pieces, like who knows that 147 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: team's gonna. 148 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: Be I mean, I mean, they're they're obviously got real 149 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: they got real young talent. They just need veteran presence 150 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: around them. They need guys have done it before so 151 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: then those younger guys can follow suit in terms of 152 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: how things are done in a winning situation. But nah, 153 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: that this is just one early move. Like there there's 154 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: probably a few more moves that the Utah Jazz are 155 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: gonna do because their roster is talented. But it's like 156 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: they got a few of the same players, and I 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: think they're they're they're just figuring out what they're gonna 158 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: what's the next move for them. 159 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm even curious because everyone's always trying to get Kessler 160 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: because you know, the big man is valued. 161 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kessler's good, Like they all are like valuable big 162 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: man they like can guard multiple positions, can play on 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: the perimeter, that can shoot at a high level. So 164 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: it's like you see the trend that Danny Ainge is 165 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: going in terms of those the type of players that 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: they want in the front court. 167 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to this other trade, which I'm 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: still trying to process. It was Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit 169 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: three team multi deal which sends Jaden Ivy, who is 170 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: an up and coming he's had some injury issues. Mike Conley, 171 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: who of course a vet like I would say the 172 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: absolute one of the top vets in the league going 173 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: to the Bulls. And then the Bulls are dealing Wider 174 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: and Daria Sarich to the Pistons, number one team in 175 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: the in the East right now, and I think it's 176 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: still up in the air of what the Timberwolves are getting. 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: But what are you see in here? Like I think 178 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: this is one of like we're these the moves to 179 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: make Like did the Pistons need to budge? Like Ivy 180 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: is a lottery pick who showed some showed some great 181 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: flashes before the injury, hasn't really come back fully, but 182 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: did they given enough time to get back to himself? 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: So what do you think about district? 184 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: I think it is a little weird, but at the 185 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: same time, like Ivy is, he's gonna be second fiddle 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: to k Cuttingham no matter what. And he, like you said, 187 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: it was a lot o pick a couple of years ago, 188 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: had some freak injuries that has slowed him down. But 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: I think he's able to get to a team where 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: he can make mistakes, he can, he can play through mistakes, 191 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: he can, he can build confidence and get build the 192 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,479 Speaker 2: player that he's supposed to be. And then with Detroit 193 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: making that move, yeah, I don't think it made them 194 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: that much better, but they did get shooting. Kevin Order 195 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: is a shooter they got. They they need the spacing 196 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: so k Cunningham could get downhill. So I don't I 197 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: see them probably making another move as well, like they 198 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: don't need to, but if it can make them a 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: little better, I think that puts them in position to 200 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: be a little closer to contend for a championship because 201 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: as you look at the Detroit Pissons now, it's like 202 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: they don't have enough space. Like once once the playoffs come, 203 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: the court shrinks, man, and it's like you need shooters 204 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: out there with those type of guys. So then Kate 205 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: Cunningham ain't running into two or three guys at all times. 206 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: So I think that feels a little whole. Obviously they 207 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: got Duncan Robinson still, but they just need some valuable 208 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: shooting around and somebody that can make a play for 209 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: them other than Kate Cunningham. 210 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: It's an interesting Yeah, like you said, like with Jayden, 211 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: like he can on his upside, right, But it's like 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: they're already number one. They were clearly the number one 213 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: team without Jaden. So it's like there is a team 214 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: out there in this case, who is it the Bulls 215 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: who are willing to take a gamble, Like, let's see 216 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: what Jaden could do, but like he's not there yet. 217 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: He might need a little bit more time to pick 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: sense of like we're good, let's try out some other guys, 219 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: because yeah, potentially they have a real chance of the finals. 220 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: This yeries, So that's interesting. But Mike Conley the Bulls, 221 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: Like here's how why I think of the Bulls. I 222 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: think the whole internet and fancying the Bulls is that 223 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: they are forever playing team. So with Jaden and Ivy 224 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: and Mike Conley, is I guess Conley's veteranship is that 225 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: like can that be a game changer? 226 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean he could have been just a throw into 227 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: the trade, no disrespect like that. I don't think they're 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: trading him to get any production out of him at 229 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: this point in his career. Yes, he's an ultimate vet. 230 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Yes he can help those younger guards in terms of 231 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: their preparation and doing what you know BET's do in 232 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: that locker room and teach them young guys how to, 233 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: you know, be the utmost professional in all situations. So 234 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: I think he can add value, but it's not it's 235 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: not necessarily value on the court as in him playing. 236 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: So I think it's somebody that's respected around the league, 237 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: somebody that has done has played at a high level 238 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: for a long time. But that's not a situation where 239 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: he's coming in and playing. 240 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: You never, I felt like people were saying that when 241 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: he uh, what was it in the Jazz and the 242 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Timberwolves and he was well, I can't remember what serious 243 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: it was, but he was hitting down. 244 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he played, he played well. Mike Connelly's one of them. 245 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: He's a He's been solid his whole career. 246 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: Man. 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: It's all love and respect to what he's been able 248 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: to do as being a smaller guard. 249 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: Yep, okay, And so this one broke last night. It's 250 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: not official, And would love to hear your thoughts on 251 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: the Darius Garland and James Harden trade. So, Harden, it 252 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: came out that he has asked for a trade, which 253 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: would love to hear. I think the speculation is that 254 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Harden is unhappy he didn't make the All Star team 255 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: requesting the trade. Darius, I think, like the Calves, while 256 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: they're they're sitting in the middle in the East, they 257 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, they were the best team in the East 258 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: last year regular season, but they taking a step back 259 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: and so I feel like there's some panic buttons being 260 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: hit here. What do you think about this trade? Is 261 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: this a good move for both? Like is adding a 262 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Harden to a core contender the right thing to do. 263 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: It's a surprise first off, but I think the biggest 264 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: thing we got to mention is the reason why this 265 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: probably happened is the Clippers not wanting to give James 266 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: Harden an extension. And James Harden is known for trying 267 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: to find a guaranteed extension, which is to each his own, 268 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: but any team that hasn't guaranteed him in an extension, 269 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: he's kind of you know, he's been out of here. 270 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: So I think that at this point in his career, 271 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: he's averaging twenty five and I think eight assists in 272 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: forty some games this year, Like he wants security, which 273 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: he should, and he's shown he's earned that, so I 274 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: understand his frustration. Yes, I'm surprised it's the Cleveland Cavaliers. 275 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: I think he can move the needle a little bit 276 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: in terms of making them better. But is it enough, 277 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: Like is it enough? Is it championship basketball? You just 278 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: never knowing to you get there and see how he 279 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: jails with them. Darius Garland, I think it would be 280 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: a good opportunity for him to leave. It's obvious Cleveland 281 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: is you know, decided that is Donovan Mitchell's team for 282 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: the most part and not necessarily moving on. But like 283 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: it gives him a good situation to go to a 284 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: playoff situation obviously and be able to be on a 285 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: veteran team and be with a superstar in Kawhi Leonard. 286 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: So I think it helps both teams. It doesn't move 287 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: the needle much though, but always getting a guy like 288 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: James Harden, it is still giving you twenty five and 289 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: eight in what year sixteen or something like that, It's 290 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: like you're probably taking that, especially if you don't have 291 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: to give a lot up, like you're giving up Darius Garland, 292 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: which is obviously a former All Star. But your plans 293 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: haven't been Darius Garland's plans, Like it's definitely been in 294 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell's hands. 295 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Darius to LA or to the Clippers. 296 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: It's like, I guess for the Clippers, and we've said, 297 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: like they can be sort of dysfunctional over there, and 298 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I never liked that when they had assembled that big 299 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: three of Kawhi, Harden and PG. Obviously Pg's gone, Harden's 300 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: asking for a way out. I think like somewhat of 301 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: a return to normalcy, a young star, a clear like 302 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: veteran star, and then just a solid roster like we've 303 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: seen them right after kind of we were like, what's 304 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: going on over there? They kind of broke off a 305 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a winning streak and returned to some normalcy. 306 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think it is it would 307 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: be nice to see Darius get over there and just play. 308 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird to say in LA with a 309 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: little less pressure and feel like, you know, he could 310 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: take that take over that team. I think also coaching 311 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: under or being coached under ty Loot would be nice 312 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: for someone like Garland, a guy who could probably help 313 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: him out on the defensive side a little bit more too. 314 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean, and then it's a surprise, 315 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: it's surprising because the Clippers have like been eighteen and 316 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: five since that look right, you know, since the beginning 317 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: when they were struggling, when they're at think six and 318 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: twenty one, they've been one of the hottest teams in 319 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: the league. So to see this happen out of nowhere 320 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: when you wouldn't think James Harden is going to get 321 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: traded at this point in his career. But like I said, 322 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: there must. I think my sources are telling me here 323 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: we go. My sources are telling me that there was 324 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: no agreement on an extension. So so he's trying to 325 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: find somewhere and I think Cleveland is one of them 326 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: teams is probably guaranteed him an extension in terms of 327 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: their conversations, like it got to be a team that's 328 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: going to extend him or he can walk and then 329 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: you lose everything. 330 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think CP Chris Paul is 331 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: looking like I told you it's not regular over there? 332 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: You know? 333 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: Is he like it could be? But they've they've been 334 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: the hottest team in the league since That's true, ser 335 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: Chris Paul been out at it here and not not 336 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: saying is Chris Paul's fault at all? But it's something 337 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: has changed since then, and it's just a surprise right 338 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: now because they've been playing really well. But I understand it. 339 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so obviously we said these are potentially Domino's. 340 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Let's let's say you got any crazy predictions that's about 341 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: to go down, like it's got to happen soon. And 342 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: and I think also I texted this in our thread. 343 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think there's gonna be a crazy trade 344 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: to sort of NBA out of Silver's like super Bowls 345 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: coming up. We got to steal the shine. Some crazy 346 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: stuff happens over the weekend. Give me your craziest trade 347 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: prediction for the weekend or today. 348 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Janni's is gonna get traded, like 349 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: I gets traded, like say Jannis or John Moran or 350 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: even Anthony Davis. Like that's gonna be That's gonna make 351 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: the other teams be in panic mode, Like what especially 352 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: if Yannis our John Moran gets traded, It's like everybody's 353 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: gonna be trying to figure out what they need to 354 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: do to make sure they're in, you know, in the 355 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: race of winning a champion shit, because that's gonna be 356 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: a big one because nobody knows if it's gonna happen 357 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: or where or where those type of guys are going. 358 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: And when a superstar gets traded in the middle of 359 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: the season, kind of like how Luka, Doncics and them 360 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: guys got traded last year, it shakes up everything. Everybody's 361 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: tripping out. So I think Giannis is I think he's 362 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: gonna get traded. I don't know where, but I think 363 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: you know what would be crazy if JNS got traded, 364 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: it's somewhere like okay, see, because they got the draft 365 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: capital for it. They got all the picks. They got 366 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: what you need. Like, say you trade Jalen Williams, Caruso, 367 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: who else Mitchell and then draft picks for Giannis. 368 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: I don't get it done. That's a win for the. 369 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: It's a win for the Bucks, and it's like the thunder. 370 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Can you can go back to back? 371 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: Yes, still, Jalen will get more buckets, Caruso will get 372 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: a little more plaintime. 373 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: That's my prediction right there. 374 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, I just I would. 375 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: My text was, I watched Lebron, watch Lebron go. I 376 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: know he has no trade clause, but I feel like 377 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: all the reports. 378 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: Would be people Lebron dipped, but I don't know where 379 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: he's trying to gole gotta be somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah, 380 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean but then now it's like we get. 381 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Jared Allen over there over in the Lakers. Uh, they 382 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: got the center that they've been needing. Austin Reeves comes back. 383 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: Like that's a contender. 384 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there they would want the Lakers will want Mobiley. 385 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like, you know when that when the 386 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: tribute happened the other night and Cleveland they just showed 387 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: out for Lebron and Brony, and it's like, I feel like, 388 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: yeah they would, I mean Mobiley. The real basketball fans 389 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: are like, why'd you do that? But Cleveland just like 390 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: we got Bronni back, we got Lebron back, you know. 391 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: But it's like, you give up a lot of pieces. 392 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: In that, and that would be that would be dope. 393 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: It's just not putting your team in a situation to 394 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: do anything unless like a team wanted to sell tickets 395 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: and all that. Yeah, you're getting all that, but it's 396 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: going to mess up your future if you get a 397 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: guy like that. Right now. 398 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't. Here's another one I said, I said 399 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Lebron for Kawhi. 400 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: Hell no that I ever have it. That would be crazy, though. 401 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: Swap just to swap want to be in LA, right, Yeah, 402 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: you dudes want to be in LA at this point 403 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: in their career. 404 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: All right. So there's a couple of guys I want 405 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: to talk about as a snubs in our next segment here. 406 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: All Star rosters got finished, So we'll talk about the 407 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: All Star rosters when we come back here on Point Game. 408 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Point Game. The All Star 409 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: reserves just got announced here. Some names that we knew 410 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: for sure, some surprises, and I think some guys that 411 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: I think well deserved. So let me just go through 412 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: the West list. Here it and you give me your reactions. 413 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: We got an Edwards, Chet Holmgren, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, 414 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: Denny Avdia, Lebron James, and Jamal Murray. So what do 415 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: you think hearing that in the West list, guys that 416 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: you really were sort of like rooting for. Any of 417 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: those names come to come to mind, and then any 418 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: snubs come to mind in the West. 419 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: Shout out to the first time All Stars Jamal Murray. 420 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: I sent them a text the other day. That's one 421 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: of my guys man from when I played for the Nuggets, 422 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 2: somebody I was able to build a relationship with and 423 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 2: just try to, you know, allow him to reach his 424 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: potential and be that bad presence for him. But I'm 425 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm happy for him the most for sure. I definitely 426 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: feel there's some guys that should have made it, though 427 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: they didn't. I feel like the Clippers should have had 428 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: one at least. Kawhi Leonard has been playing the best 429 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: basketball to anybody's this stretch of January. Really James hard 430 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: than his average in twenty five and eight, like he's 431 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: the most consistent in year six or seventeen. So that 432 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: was and then saying, goon, how didn't he make gun? Yeah, 433 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: that's a tough one, and I know everybody can't make it, 434 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: like obviously, and I don't want to take that from anybody. 435 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: Denny in Portland. I was surprised by that because Portland's 436 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: not good, like their record's not good, and obviously he's 437 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: been doing this thing. But usually when the coaches decide, 438 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: they're not usually deciding the guy from the losing team. 439 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: And like we'll talk about the Eastern Conference in a 440 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: minute too, because there's a guy over there that's like, yes, 441 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: it's well deserved and it's all love and respect, but 442 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: that's tough to pick a guy All Star and your 443 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: team is just not doing well. 444 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know these narratives. I think the 445 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: narratives rule the NBA. I think people started talking about 446 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Denny like oh, it's a new guy coming in, and 447 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: so like that started. His name started getting floated that 448 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: we forgot about, like like like also to two Clippers 449 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Kawhi and Harden, who are just putting up crazy numbers. 450 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: That's that's in LA. That's crazy. How does not one? 451 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: So that's like that was surprising to me, fam. 452 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: But it's like yeah, with sing Gooon, it's I guess 453 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: it's you know, Wenby's playing like it's hard. I guess 454 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: it's all positionless. But like it's just stack. You said 455 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: it yourself. I was like, how is this Jamal Murray's 456 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: first time? It's Western conferences. 457 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: If he was on the Eastern Conference, he probably would 458 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: have been a multiple star easy. So it's it's just tough. 459 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: It's tough, like saying Goon definitely is an All Star, 460 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: but like who do you take out? And then you 461 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: got Lebron James. 462 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: You can't take out Lebron. 463 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean you can't obviously, but if anybody there's guys 464 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: playing a little better, but you understand that one, Like 465 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: it's Lebron James and he should be in there, But 466 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: that's tough. Like if I'm in those other guys shoes, 467 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm hot. 468 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna hate should he should Lebron be 469 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: on there? He hasn't announced his retirement. 470 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: Not to cut you off, like his stats are are 471 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: amazing for a forty one year old and for anybody. Really, yeah, 472 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: those are amazing stats, but are they They weren't better 473 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: stats than James Harden or. 474 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: Not better than called Kawhi's played games. 475 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: You know. 476 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: It's like again, like I know there's all these biases 477 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: and in narratives LA, but it's like Kawhi's and LA, 478 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: and I'm a lakersman and Lebron's one of my favorite players. 479 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah me too, So I get it. But it's like 480 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: when you think about it, are you put yourself in 481 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: those other guys shoes? Like how ain't I what's the criteria? 482 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to the East. I want to hear who 483 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: you think got snubbed here? We got Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Johnson, 484 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: new young guy with the Hawks, Karl Anthony Towns, Pascal Siakam, 485 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: Norman Powell, a guy who we said was gonna be 486 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: an All Star early on. Yes, Scottie Barnes, and Jalen 487 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: Duran so surprises on this on this list. 488 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: So shout out to the first time All Stars Jalen Johnson. Jalen. 489 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 2: The one that got me isam, like, you're on probably 490 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 2: the worst team in the league, and like, yeah, he's 491 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: doing his thing and he is an All Star caliber player, 492 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: but we can't reward that. Like that's not like I 493 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: don't I don't think that's especially coming from a vote 494 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: from you know, the coaches who get the reserves. I 495 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: was surprised by that. I was also surprised, like Brandon 496 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: Ingram's praying really good, his team's winning. Obviously they got 497 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes in there. I don't know the guy that 498 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: I would put in there though, that didn't make it 499 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: in the East and Be maybe and Be's been playing 500 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: really good, and Be's been playing really good and he's 501 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: been available. Shout out to Norman Powell. He should have 502 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: been All Star last year probably with the Clippers. 503 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: And right if they had kept the Clippers, kept him 504 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: on the Clippers too, this could have been a real 505 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: nice seasons. 506 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, it's like, it's weird who who's making 507 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: these decisions? Man? 508 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, eighteen and five or in 509 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: the last you know that streak and then all of 510 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: a sudden you're start one of your stars asking for out. 511 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on over there? 512 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: What's going on? So I don't have anybody that might 513 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: have been snubbed other than maybe Brandon Ingram, But I 514 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: just didn't think that Siakam was a good choice with 515 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: how bad they're doing it. Like, if you're doing that, 516 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: then you need to throw LaMelo Ball in it. You 517 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: need to throw Michael Porter Junior in there. Like his 518 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: Siakam stats wasn't even better than Michael Porter juniors. He's 519 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: avaging twenty six and like seven, So it's like, if 520 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: we're doing that, I think a guy like Michael Porter 521 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: should have been in there. 522 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I love Siakham, but I think it was 523 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of what is it. It's like it's leftover. 524 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: You know, they made the finals last year and then 525 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: obviously the team is extremely hurt, and he just keeps 526 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: showing up and putting up numbers, and it's like. 527 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: Nah, he's doing his thing. He's doing his thing. He's 528 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: having an All Star caliber season. I just don't feel 529 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: like you should reward a guy like that that you know, 530 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: this team is one of the worst teams in the league, 531 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: but you know, to each his own, shout out to him. 532 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: It's all love and respect and the first timers that's 533 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: the big that's the most important. So like, shout out 534 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: to y'all well. 535 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: And my one observation from these rosters and hole even 536 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: with the starters, is that I think this is how 537 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: you fix the All Star Game is you get these 538 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: young guys who hopefully they're like, I'm here to compete. 539 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: Obviously we know, like Victor Womanyama was saying that, like, 540 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Johnson getting in. I think Tyree Halliburn 541 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: even a couple of years ago when it was in Indiana, 542 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: he came out he was trying to get the MVP 543 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: from the jump. So I do like seeing new names 544 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: on there who I think we'll just try to like 545 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: not chase the MVP, but like, hey, I'm in the 546 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: All Star game, I'm gonna showcase my talent, so I like. 547 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Some new energy, some young energy. Hopefully it changed some 548 00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: things up. 549 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: What was it like when you got in, when you 550 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: first checked in your first All Star game? 551 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: That shit was crazy. That was one of the first 552 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: times I was a little nervous. My hands was really cold, 553 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 2: Like I remember I met I think I missed my 554 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: first layup, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, the first thing I'm 555 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: doing I'm getting to the cup. I feel I'm an airball, 556 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: like I if I shoot a jump shot. But all 557 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: my All Star games, both of my I think I 558 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: scored twenty on both but each game. So yeah, I 559 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: definitely was getting a little a few baskets. But that 560 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: was one of the few times I've been nervous, and 561 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know why because it was a fun game. 562 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: But then you see all them celebrities watching you. You're 563 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: around your favorite players growing up watching it was like 564 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: the whole weekend made you a little nervous. But like, 565 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember that for the rest of my life. 566 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: Like that shit was so dope. Every moment of it 567 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: was dope. Like I'm on the bench and I'm looking 568 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: who's on my team? I'm like, I'm really on the 569 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: bench looking like this is crazy, not even thinking like 570 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm just one of them too. But I'm like I'm 571 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: in the locker room tripping out like I'm the whole 572 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: both of my All Star years, I'm just like this 573 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: doesn't even seem real, Like everything's customized, like it's it's 574 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: everything you dreamed of, especially me as a kid watching 575 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: All Star games and watching the jerseys they had, watching 576 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: the customized shoes they had. So to have my own, 577 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: my own locker, my own all customized stuff, it was 578 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: like I was in basketball heaven for sure. 579 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: I love that. I love you. You're the great thing 580 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: about you, not only incredible player, but like you're a 581 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: basketball fan and like that is how everyone who watches it, 582 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: that's how they feel if they were. 583 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, like and when I'm in those moments, I promise 584 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 2: you I feel like just like you will feel like 585 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: that's how I just be snapping out of it, like damn, 586 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: this is crazy then like yeah, yeah, it's just like that. 587 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: You know. I don't know if I told you my alias, 588 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: my own Calvin Cambridge, like my shit, just like that. 589 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: It's crazy because when I was a kid watching like Mike, 590 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm thinking when I get to the NBA, it's gonna 591 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: be free room service. It's gonna be all of that. 592 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: Obviously it wasn't, but I was thinking it was gonna 593 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: be all of that. 594 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone was like that. But I'll actually say, 595 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: we'll tie it to this because twenty sixteen, your first 596 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: All Star appearance, your guys is jerseys. I will say 597 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: those uniforms, I think we're probably the last good All 598 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Star uniform. No shade to your next the next season. 599 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: But like that first one with the maple leaf and 600 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: all that, I thought that was clean. 601 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: Since then, I feel like it was clean. But I 602 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: always like I grew up on wearing your own jersey, 603 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: Like I feel like that was so dope when everybody 604 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: wore their own jersey had a little patch or whatever, 605 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: Like I always wanted to do that. Like obviously I'm 606 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: not gonna go there complaining, but I like that that 607 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: would have been dope to be a part of when 608 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: when guys wore their own, you know, team uniform. 609 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so then today, I don't know if if 610 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: you got to see it yet, but they just, uh, 611 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: they just released what the All Star Game jerseys are 612 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna look like they're doing like the three teams. So 613 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: they got to come up with now three different designs, 614 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: and so like one looks like the Women's Dream Team 615 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: jersey and the USA. The one on the right looks 616 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: like the Cavs throwbacks, the lebron the. 617 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: Rare ones look like the Women's USA when they were 618 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: in the back in the day. Yeah, like Lisa, yeah, yeah, 619 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: with Staley and all them, Ah yeah, yeah, they're they're 620 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: not it. 621 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know. I didn't know it 622 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: was that hard. 623 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: Go back to your own jerseys. That's just classic. You 624 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: could play a little patch something different, that's just different 625 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: than your regular jersey. But like that's that's when the 626 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: games was really cracking, though, CJ. When they was like 627 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: like that that one All Star game with Marberry when 628 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: they came back and there I was hot too, Like 629 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: I love those guys, but I was a strict I 630 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: was a Kobe fan, so yeah, I was. I wanted 631 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: the West to wind. But like those games, because you 632 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: knew once it got to the end of the third 633 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: and the beginning of the fourth, yep, it was going down. 634 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: Like they was playing they was playing hard and playing 635 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: to win. So I don't know, I don't know what 636 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: we do with these these uniforms, CJ. I don't know 637 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: what we do with the game. 638 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: We got to get in the lab with them, Like 639 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: I remember that two thousand game. Also too, was the 640 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: camera angle that used to like the cameras. 641 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: The one year where where Kobe's like this yellow Yeah, 642 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: I remember crossing. It's like you was right on the 643 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: floor with them. Yeah, like that was that was. Man. 644 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: We got to get that creativity back because that's what 645 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: like basketball was poetry in motion at that time. We'll 646 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: get they were amazing. Right now, it's still at a 647 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: high level. Right now, it's just those little things camera angles, 648 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: the design on the jerseys, like you gotta get that back. 649 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: The dunk contest. We gotta get guys who care, you know. 650 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: We gotta just fix the rules and all that. 651 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: Like I just making so much money. They're not tripping 652 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: on doing it no more. Man, they don't want to 653 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: be embarrassed. Yeah, it's the cameras. Really, it's the video 654 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: that's all it is. When like when you really think 655 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: about it, like even how hard they don't go in 656 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: the it's just nobody wants to be embarrassed when the 657 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: whole world is watching. That's crazy and it's like it's 658 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: all good. You're like, it's against the best player in 659 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: the world, just like you. 660 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: But it's like, did NBA players love seeing Mac McClung 661 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: and I love Mac? See Mac McClung win it three 662 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: times in a row. 663 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: Like shout out to Mac, like doing your cuttit? Yeah, 664 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: but nah trying to see that. 665 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, so maybe we'll see how this 666 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: year goes. We'll cover that in a future episode as 667 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: the names get uh finalized there, but uh, let's take 668 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, we'll talk about 669 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: some players that are gonna that made the All Star 670 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: rosters that we think that people should be looking out 671 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: for and deserve some more shine. 672 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 673 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: What are you doing tonight at five Eastern? 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Who I think Cooper is just 711 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: proven that he could play all positions on the floor. 712 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: He's taking over games, has that confidence. But people were 713 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: saying or criticizing Jason Kidd for playing him at point guard. 714 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: Now you know, Jason Kidd, you've been watching Cooper. What 715 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: do you think about this? Like? Should they be criticizing 716 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: coach if Cooper is playing as well as he is? 717 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: Nah? Like I mean Jason Kidd, like he said, like 718 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 2: I've done this at a high level, Like I've done 719 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: this so like I know what I'm doing and he 720 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: did this. If people don't remember when he was the 721 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: coach for the Milwaukee Bucks, he did this for Joannis. 722 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: He started him at point guard to get him those skills, 723 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: to get him in those situations to where years later, 724 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: if he's ever putting those point guard situations like, he's 725 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: able to make plays out of that. And I think 726 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: that's all he's doing for Cooper Flag. Yeah, at the 727 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: beginning of the year, it was it was tough because 728 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag's never played that position. He's eighteen, nineteen years 729 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: old starting his NBA career, so he's never been putting 730 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: it in a position to make others better and make 731 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: plays for others. I think as the game has slowed 732 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: down over this season, he's been exceptional. Like he's been, 733 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: He's been doing this thing. He's at forty nine the 734 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 2: other week, like he's he's really been getting better each 735 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: and every game, each and every day, each and every week, 736 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: he's getting better and adding to, you know, his repertoire. 737 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 2: But I think Jason Kidd was just frustrated. Obviously, they 738 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: just lost that night and a local reporter had just 739 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: kept mentioning something about playing them at that point and 740 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: not liking that, But like Jason Kidd had to put 741 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 2: pokers chests out, like y'all know what it is, Like 742 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm a I've done this at a high level and 743 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing. So like it's y'all that 744 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: are complaining. It's y'all the media that's that saying this 745 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: a negative like nobody else is saying that. 746 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, to quote, I didn't even say what he said. 747 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: He said, I know what the f I'm doing. I 748 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: don't give an f what you guys, right, And it 749 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: is like crazy the goal of like a journalist, I 750 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: don't care how storative a journalists. You are crazy to 751 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: tell Jason Kidd what to do with his point guard, 752 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, like crazy, And you mentioned the Bucks thing also, 753 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 1: like Jason Kid was on that twenty twenty Lakers team 754 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: as a coach when Lebron was point You know, it's 755 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing. The point guard position has evolved. Like, 756 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: of course, who's seen the shorter guards that can facilitate. 757 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: But when you have a generational player who's bringing the 758 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: ball up and who has that basketball IQ, of course 759 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: let him do it. 760 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 2: I think it just adds to what he's already good. 761 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: At so, like when if he ever gets in playoff 762 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: situations where he comes off to pick and roll and 763 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: two guys two guys are on him, he knows how 764 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: to make that play. He's made it thousands of times 765 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: in the season. Instead of not putting him in that position, 766 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: then when the playoffs comes, trying to put him in 767 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: that position and then he doesn't know what to do. 768 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 2: So just imagine when Kyrie Irvin comes back, he's able 769 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: to help him a little more those situations. He's able 770 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: to watch Kyrie Irvin play out of those situations that 771 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: Jason Kidd has put him in. This is only gonna 772 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: make him better in the long run. But obviously the 773 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: media and everybody wants him to be great right now, 774 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: and there's just steps he has to follow to get 775 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: to that level. And he's doing that like he's he's 776 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: surprising a lot of people with his overall play, like 777 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: he doesn't really have any weaknesses. 778 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be super interesting when 779 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: the MAVs are in a year or two, like a 780 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: top four team in the West, which I feel like 781 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 1: they're on track with, get a couple of guys healthy, 782 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: if they hold on an ad like it'll be interesting 783 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: how people feel about Nico. 784 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 2: You know, it's like just over and Nico is my dude. 785 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: Look look look Nico signed me to Nike like I've 786 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: been Nico introduced me to Kobe for the first time. 787 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: So Nico is like, like, I rock with Nico. But 788 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: they're Dallas. They they hate him, they hate They're not Yeah, 789 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: that's not ever gonna change like that. That yeah, that's 790 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: not ever changing. Crazy. That's like, no matter. They can 791 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: win a championship next, they can win back to back 792 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: to back, and the fourth year, they're gonna be like, 793 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 2: we still should have Luca right now. They're never getting 794 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: over that. 795 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: That's tough. 796 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: That's a tough deal right there. That sucks. 797 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some guys who deserve the shine in 798 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: our segment, no days off of course, anyone who's just 799 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: listening for the first time, talking about some guys who 800 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: the media doesn't necessarily puts shan out run their highlights, 801 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: talk about on social and whatnot. But we're gonna do 802 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: an all star edition here. So we mentioned these guys before. 803 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: I think one on the West, one on the East. 804 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: I t so in the West, who do you think 805 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: is getting your No Days Off. 806 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: Award Jamal Murray, I gotta go with him, Like he's like, 807 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: in anybody's eyes that watch the game of basketball, you 808 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: would think he should be at least a two or 809 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: three time All Star, especially with the success his team 810 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 2: has had. So for him to, you know, I only 811 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: become an All Star like that, that says a lot, 812 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 2: and it's well deserving, Like he's he's done this thing 813 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: all year long. So I'm super happy for him. So 814 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: I think he's he's he's our No Days Off winner 815 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: on the Western Conference because he's he's more than deserving 816 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: of that. 817 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: You spend some time with him in Denver, what's one 818 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: thing that people might not know about him? Because I 819 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: feel like he's like a pretty drama free guy, just like, Yeah, 820 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: so people don't know much about him. So what's one 821 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: one thing that people don't know. 822 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 2: About Jamal Murray? Man, It's crazy because when we first 823 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 2: when I first got to the Nuggets, we right before 824 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 2: training camp on me one of the assistant coaches and 825 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray went out to eat. The assistant coach wanted 826 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: me to, you know, talk to just gaming up, game 827 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: him up about you know, being a professional, being one 828 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: of the best young guards in the league, like having 829 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: goals of being All Stars, like having those talks. So 830 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: like we went to dinner a few times, and that's 831 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: how we became, you know, a little bit closer, just 832 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: in terms of just trying to be that older leader 833 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: for him and trying to prepare him for you know, 834 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: what's happening now. Obviously, like I had no part in that, 835 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: but it's it's dope to see the progression he's made 836 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 2: the last four or five years in terms of becoming 837 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: a better guard each and every day. But in terms 838 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: of somebody not knowing anything about him, he's he's super chill. 839 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: He ain't doing nothing, he ain't doing nothing extra, he 840 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 2: ain't talking too much. He's just he's just chilling. So 841 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: how he plays is like how his personality is. When 842 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: he's emotional and you you see on flexing, you don't 843 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 2: see that a lot, so like that's a surprise show. 844 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: That's how he is. Off the court. 845 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: He's a killer. It's crazy that you know, first first 846 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: time All Star, but he's just you know, the championships 847 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: and he's always that guy to hit that dagger basket. 848 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 2: And he's respected, like his peers respect him. Obviously, you 849 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: want to be an All Star, you want to have 850 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: all those accolades. But one of the dopest things and 851 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 2: one of the most respectful things, is if your peers 852 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: respect you like that's that says a lot. Like, yeah, 853 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: that says a lot. 854 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: How about Eastern Reserve player. 855 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm going with Jaalen Duran. I'm gonna go with him 856 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 2: because he just has that energy, like even when he 857 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: and they announced that he was an All Star, like 858 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 2: that energy through in the middle of the game, Like 859 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: you just see the big smile on his face. If 860 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 2: you watch his interview at the end of the game, 861 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 2: it was like he was just like a little kid. 862 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: And I remember that feeling, like just being so happy 863 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: for yourself because I don't think anybody in his circle 864 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: probably thought he would be an All Star, especially this 865 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: early in his career. I don't even know if he did. 866 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 2: So for this to happen, and for it to come 867 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: from the success of the team as well, you got 868 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: to give a shout out to those type of guys 869 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 2: because they don't get the love that they deserve. Dope. 870 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be exciting. Like I said, young guys 871 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: in the All Star I think that's the way to 872 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: fix it. These guys are going to be out there 873 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: to prove something their first time to the All Star 874 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: and then also Jalen Duran in the Don't Contest, so 875 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: oh okay, that's another place that people forget the effects 876 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: of winning a dunk contest. 877 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, and if you can do it, go 878 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: ahead and do it. I remember one year they asked 879 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: me to do it. I'm like, I'm like, fam, don't 880 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 2: disrespect me like that. I can maybe I got one 881 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 2: dunk and if and if that doesn't go in, it's over, 882 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 2: Like I can't. I got it. I got one dunk 883 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 2: that can get me probably an eight, and then it's 884 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: starting for it. I can throw it up and win meal. 885 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: But it's like that's not enough, that's not enough. So 886 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: when they asked me, I'm like, we ain't gonna do 887 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: that one. We ain't gonna embarrass ourselves like that. 888 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: That's uh. I mean honestly though, then you see like 889 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: these tall guys and they've been trying to do too much, 890 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: like do it through their life and it's like five attempts, 891 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: you know, and. 892 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 2: You really gotta practice what you're gonna do because you 893 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 2: go in there like you can't just you can't just 894 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 2: go off the top of the dome like you gotta 895 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: have you gotta have a plan. 896 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: I think people. I just showed my son the other night, 897 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen one in Toronto, the overtime dunk contest 898 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: with you know, Zach Lavine. 899 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 2: Versus I was the best one ever, This one ever. 900 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: People need to study film on that. It was a. 901 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: Perfect mix of like I remember being there that was like, 902 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: oh and exactly, you know he is Seattle guy, so 903 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 2: we was in there like we've seen all these dunks before. 904 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, when he was doing them, it wasn't even surprising. 905 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: Like I was telling dudes, I remember all the All Stars. 906 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling them over there, I'm like, he about to 907 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 2: do through their legs from the free throw line. Watch 908 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: They're like the heck no, They're like, and he's doing 909 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: it so effortless, like so so easy, like he been 910 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: doing that since high school. 911 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: He has what that what Jordan had as a rookie 912 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: where he's taken off but he like picks his legs 913 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: up so it looks like he's just like effortlessly. 914 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: Sol Man the truck, he's just walking in the air. 915 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we need. That's what we need a 916 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: recipe of that. And I think like and they also 917 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: used props really well, Aaron Gordon at least like. 918 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 2: They use their head like they thought about it. Like 919 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 2: that's why it was super dope too, because they made 920 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: their dunks. They were creative and they were like they 921 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: really had bounce, like they was really come fly with me. 922 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 2: They was really in the air. 923 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, Well that's another episode of Point Game 924 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: i T. Anything you want to shout out to our fans, 925 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: tell them how to interact with us. What do they 926 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: need to do? 927 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: Man, just tap in message us all of that, any 928 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 2: of our posts, message things. Give us some feedback. Please, 929 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 2: we're listening on everything we are we do. We need 930 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: to do another Q and A, you know, find some 931 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 2: find some people that's gonna have some good questions and 932 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 2: answer them them here. 933 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: Well, actually, now that you say that we are doing. 934 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: If you're in LA, this is to all the basketball 935 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: fans out there. We want real basketball fans. We're throwing 936 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: a live point Game taping in Los Angeles the Friday 937 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: of All Star Weekend. I T is gonna come through 938 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have some fans asking questions, and you're 939 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna get the answers right there in person on Friday 940 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: night after the Rising Stars game. 941 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 2: You excited about going down. It's going down, man, Bring 942 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 2: some stuff I can sign. Do all of that, we're 943 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 2: gonna have. It's going down. Just come tap in with us, yep, 944 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 2: be there with us in person. Ask some real questions, 945 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: some real thoughtful questions, and you know we'll give you 946 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 2: a good enough answer. 947 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: All that details, all the info right in our socials. 948 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: Follow up at point game on everything, and we'll see 949 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: you guys next episode