1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: we are awaiting President Trump and Caroline Levitt on the 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: one year anniversary of Trump two point zero. What has 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: the first year accomplished? What do we think about that 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Trump is now in the communication the sales pitch aspect 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: of his presidency as we move towards what will frankly 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: be the last election that is in many ways a 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: referendum directly on President Trump's leadership after from twenty fifteen 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: when he came down the escalator for the first time, 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty six, the Trump era of effectively eleven years. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Now you can say twenty twenty eight will be potentially 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: for the Republican candidate, if it is Jade Vance, if 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: it is Marco Rubio, somewhat of a referendum of Trump himself, 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: but he will not be on the ballot in any 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: way in twenty twenty eight. So the last real time 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: that Trump is has a referendum on his leadership, on 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: his presidency will be the midterms. And so we are 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: now into the sell the job that you have done 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: stage of Trump two point zero. And I mentioned these stats, 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: but I want to hit you with them right off 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: the top here, because I do think that the challenge 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: is making everyone aware of the promises that he has 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: delivered on. And I would say number one, the most 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: significant accomplishment of President Trump, buck is the secure border. 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: And it's so successful that nobody even talks about the 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: border anymore. So for a decade we talked about, Hey, 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: we should build a wall, Hey we should have a 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: secure border. Biden opens the border, everybody comes across, ten 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: million plus people. Trump gets in one month later, we 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: have the most secure border. 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: In the history of the United States. 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: The second thing that I would say is probably the 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: most significant of his accomplishment so far is record high 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: stock prices. And you can say, oh, that really only 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: impacts rich people. That's not true. With four oh one 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: k's huge percentages of the American public, particularly Republican voters, 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: have exposure to the stock market in some form or fashion, 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: So record high stock prices is super important. I would 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: say the third most important thing he has done buck 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: four point three percent GDP at the end of the 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: third quarter. There is a very good chance that we 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: are going to be at five percent plus for the 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and on into twenty twenty six. Inflation in 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: the wake of tariffs did not skyrocket. In fact, it 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: has continued to come down four year lows going all 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: the way back, I believe to March of twenty twenty 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: one two point six percent core inflation. Record murder decline. 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: No one is talking about it. One of the biggest 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: murder declines we have ever seen in many different cities 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: out there, particularly the cities that President Trump has surged 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: federal support the most for I would say six most 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: impressive thing record fentanyl depth decline. That is, overdoses poisonings 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: related to drugs have collapsed. Mortgage rates down seven percent 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: and mortgage rates down one percent from over seven percent, 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: and gas prices are at a four year low. Those 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: are eight things that I think President Trump has accomplished 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: and could sell. 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: Now. 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of international affairs, the situation with Israel, Gaza, 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: but I'm just focused right now on those eight things. 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: America first, the America Agenda, not even getting into Venezuela 62 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and not getting into the settlement, the peace process in Gaza. 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: All those things are very consequential, but just in the 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: United States, what is changing in your life? All eight 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: of those things I put up a poll question asking Buck, 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: what grade would you give would you give President Trump? 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: At eight hundred and two eight two to two eight 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: A two. You can give us a talkback on this. 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm hitting retweet on this right now. So if you 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: want to go vote in the Twitter poll, what grade 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: would you give Donald Trump's first year in office? Forty 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: seven percent of you say A, thirty four percent of 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: you say B, thirteen percent of you say C, and 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: six percent of you say D or F. In terms 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: of what the impact is, Buck, I would give. 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Him an A. 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: I bet you would give him an A. 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: But I'm curious to hear from people. 79 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: I just laid out those eight different things that I 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: think are all super consequential and important that are evidence 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: of the success that he has had in year one. 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: You know. 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: I just also think there's such a difference in a 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: lot of the conversation among Trump's supporters first time around 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: one year in, and I mean for people who were 86 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: as pro Trump as a guts voted for him, love 87 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: the guy, I love what he's trying to do for 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: the country. There was a lot of frustration over staff. 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: Who's he got in place? Are they on board? Yeah, 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: that's important too. There was a lot of Oh, it's 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: not his fault the staff. You don't hear any of 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 4: that now, Yes, it's just a totally different and this 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: is just marking the progress I'm saying, marking the transformation 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: of honestly, the experience level that Trump as commander in 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: chief as well as. 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: The people around him have had. We have very little. 97 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: Now. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: Look, there's always going to be people who are who 99 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: don't like, you know, what happened at at you know, 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: pick your department, or they think that this could be different, 101 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: but there isn't this. 102 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: You know, hey, it's not Trump's fault, it's the fault 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: of these people. Are that people that didn't do this thing. 104 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: We're not wasting any time with that because overall the 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 4: agenda is being implemented, is being pursued. You know, you 106 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 4: have to give credit to the people that are the 107 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 4: main implement tours, whether it's at any of these different agencies, 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: it's at State, it's at Obviously, the funniest thing with 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: Marco Rubio these days is all the means about how 110 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: he's got fifteen different jobs and you know, you have 111 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: a lot of people around him who have stepped up. 112 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: So the conversation is different, and it's now just how 113 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: do we keep it going instead of okay, we got 114 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: to have a big change in course here, like does 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: anything even remember what did Rex Tillerson do his first 116 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: year or Secretary of State? Nobody knows, didn't last long, 117 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: didn't work, wasn't a good thing, Rubio, You see what 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: he's been up to. And obviously he's a long long 119 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: standing Republican fixture now on this in the Senate and 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: on Foreign Relations Committee, et cetera. But these are people 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: who understand what the Trump mission is and are are 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: getting it done day in and day out. So I've 123 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: got to say it's it's been a great first year. 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean there aren't. There's always going to be 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: areas of improvement. There's always gonna be some criticism that 126 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 4: that I think is necessary to help the team get better. 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 4: But man, it's just a world of difference. We're playing 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: a lot of play. We're playing so much defense back 129 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: in meet we you know, the Trump voters playing so 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: much defense back in twenty seventeen into twenty eighteen on 131 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: the Russia collusion. Crazy, Yes, it completely consumed the media, news, 132 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: the media cycle day after day after day all a lie. 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: And yes, it's to Trump's credit that he battled through 134 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: all of that and then all the other stuff. They 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: threw it in and got a second term, but it it, unfortunately, 136 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: was pretty successful in slowing down and sabotaging the agenda. 137 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: Turn year one, Term one a lot of Russia collusion garbage. 138 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your point there on staff continuity is 139 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: hugely important because, yes, there have been conflict, as there 140 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: always is. People argue for what they believe in, people 141 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: disagree with them, They go back and forth. Nobody's gotten 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: forced out. No one in the entire first year did 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: Trump say, you know what, I made a poor choice here. 144 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to accede to some of the smoke, some 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: of the fire, some of the attention on these individual picks. 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that he's not going to have 147 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: staff turnover. He certainly is as you move into year two, 148 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: as you move into year three, people get burned out. 149 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: That's natural no matter who the president is. 150 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: But you remember this. 151 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: They really went after Trump on his inability to have 152 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: a consistent managerial corps in the first Trump administration, and 153 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: they were constantly shifting in and out of people man 154 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: with James Blair, with Steven Miller, with Susie Wiles. The 155 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: chief of Staff Corps has remained very, very consistent, and 156 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: then you look at the entire cabinet, everybody, it seems, 157 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: is in pretty decent shape. As we move into year two, 158 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: now again people are going to decide this is too 159 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: much work. I need a little bit more life work 160 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: life balance. That's a natural in the White House because 161 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: it is such an all encompassing job. But in terms 162 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: of the media being able to browbeat Trump into making 163 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: changes in his personnel, it hasn't happened. And I actually 164 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: think if you look at Hegseth, jd Vance, Marco Rubio, 165 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: and Trump in terms of those four supremely important positions, 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that we have actually been in a 167 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: stronger position as a country than having all of those 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: individuals involved right now. So I would give an a 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: You guys can weigh in eight hundred two two eight 170 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: A two. People are not always going to agree with 171 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: everything the president did. But I saw the Wall Street 172 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Journal I think it was came out ninety two percent 173 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: of Trump's voters support his presidency so far. So they've 174 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: tried to sell this idea of oh Trump's bases leaving 175 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: him Oh Trump voters are unhappy. I don't think that's 176 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: remotely I'm gonna. 177 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: Tell you this. I had to gear up for this, 178 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: you know, after the cause. 179 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: Again, we're marking the one year of Trump getting sworn 180 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 4: in for the second time, one year anniversary today, So 181 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: the start of year two of term two is today. 182 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: And I remember after the huge win and just their 183 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: the huge the enormous relief, thinking to myself and how 184 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: we were gonna have to deal with this if it 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: came to it, which is this isn't term one, like 186 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 4: there's no learning on the job, there's no Oh, trust him, 187 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: He'll get it right eventually. This time around had to 188 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: be prepared to say it is not. If he wasn't 189 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: pursuing the agenda on something that was promised, or if 190 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 4: he was making, you know, personnel decisions that were really counterproductive, 191 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: we were gonna have to hold that to account, and 192 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: we will if that happens in the future. But I 193 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: look at term one and I'm like year one rather 194 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: and they're getting it done. They truly are. And we're 195 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 4: not mired in defending against the same media nonsense with 196 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: Russia collusion, and then the prosecutions and all this other 197 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 4: stuff they're thrown at Trump. You see what is cape 198 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: what Trump and his team are capable of doing without, 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: like I said, all the artificial sabotage of the media 200 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 4: and the Democrat Party weaponizing the deep state against him. 201 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: If I were going to point to one thing that 202 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: was not handled well, it would be Fambondi and Epstein 203 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: like if you gave me a magic wand and you 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: said you can go back and man, we said that. 205 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: I thought she was gonna I thought she was gonna 206 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: get fired, and I said it here. I thought they 207 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: were going to tell her that, you know, enough's enough. 208 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: And even Susie Wilds, chief of staff, came out and said, yeah, 209 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: we really screwed the fact that she said the files 210 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: were on her desk, the fact that they had those 211 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: influencers walk in with the binders. And they still have 212 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: think that's the biggest unforced era of the first year. 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: They still have to get those files out. By the way, 214 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: we haven't forgotten. And you know the people say, put 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: more pressure on them. We can, but I don't run 216 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: any of these agencies now. That is Clay there needs 217 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 4: to be more more release of that information out there, 218 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: and I think that that is coming, but it is 219 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: too slow. But there's that, and then there's these other 220 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: things that we're talking about, the economy of the border, 221 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: national security. 222 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: Not being involved in stupid wars. 223 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 4: I mean, these are very very big things that affect 224 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: all of us UH and and I think that on 225 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: those areas, those issues, it has been really strong by 226 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: the way Scott Besson, who I think has been the 227 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: UH I think has been the out I think Clay 228 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: you could say that Scott Bessen outkicked his coverage or 229 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: has certainly outperformed expectations for what he'd be able to do. 230 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot. 231 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: Look, I didn't know who he was before Trump made 232 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: him Treasury Secretary. I don't think many people did. UH. 233 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: So here he is. 234 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: I think he's done a very good job. We got 235 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: two big issues that he's tackled here. Let's talk first 236 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: about the tariffs. Here he is saying that he doesn't 237 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: think lay they're going to strike down the president's signature 238 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: economic policy. This is sixteen hit it. 239 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 6: I think it's very unlikely that the Supreme Court is 240 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: going to strike down a president's signature economic policy. It 241 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 6: didn't early on with the ACA also known as Obamacare. 242 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 6: The reinforced that recently. And the real problem here is 243 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 6: President Trump has used EPA for negotiating leverage for geopolitics 244 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 6: in emergency situations. If we look back, the first EPA 245 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 6: terriffs were Finnel tariffs, so on Mexico, on Canada, on China, 246 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 6: and if Finnanahl is not a national emergency, I don't 247 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 6: know what was. 248 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: All right, I'm nervous about this one, Buck. I think 249 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is going to strike down some elements 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: of President Trump. And I appreciate the fact that Scott 251 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Bessen making that argument because that is his job and 252 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: he should be advocating for the president's perspective. So I 253 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: don't begrudge anybody advocating in that way. I think this 254 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: is one where the President's going to get a pushback 255 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: from the Supreme Court, and they are going to have. 256 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: They're going to. 257 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: Have a really complicated situation here. We keep waiting for 258 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: the OFFICIALFS following Shannon Breem this morning because I thought 259 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: we might be getting the tariff Supreme Court case. 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What's going on? 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 6: Faith? 307 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 7: Good morning? How are you guys doing. 308 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: We are fantastic. Do you have your snowplow ready? 309 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: Faith? 310 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 4: Because Play is telling me some crazy stuff about what's 311 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: going to happen to you all this weekend. 312 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 7: I know it. 313 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 314 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 7: I had to adjust my plans accordingly because Piggs and Butters, 315 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 7: you know, russh is going to be on. 316 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh my wife said she was going to the grocery. 317 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: She's a Michigander. But we're potentially going to get over 318 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: twenty inches of snow in Nashville, which has never happened 319 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: in the history of the city. So if that happens, 320 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: we're done for. 321 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: Laura's for Michigan, so she knows how to build an igloo. 322 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: She's fine, He's fine. 323 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I didn't know you guys were in Nashville. 324 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 7: The guy that answered the Sun Cities in New York, 325 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, okay, because I'm in Nashville. 326 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: We got it. 327 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: You just live outside the city, so you're going to 328 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: be dealing with the white death here soon. What verdict 329 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: would you? I'm in Nashville. Bucks in Miami. The team 330 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: is in New York City, so we're everywhere. What what 331 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: verdict would you give Trump? 332 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 7: I'm giving Trump an a plus plus plus. That man, 333 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 7: despite everything they've thrown in his face, continues to. 334 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: Do exactly what he said he's. 335 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Going to do. 336 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 7: Now. I got a big problem with Pam Bondy, and 337 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 7: I got a big problem with Susie Way, and I 338 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 7: actually got a problem with Jade Vance. 339 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: Why JD? 340 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: I can guess probably why Pam and Susie, But why 341 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: j D? 342 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: Faith? 343 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 7: Uh, he's the wolves are talking about. He's involved with 344 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 7: the Soroses. He's involved with the deep state, just like 345 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 7: I think Pam Bondy is, and I think they're all 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 7: in there trying to thwart Trump, just like what happened 347 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 7: in his last you know, term insiders that he thought 348 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 7: he could trust for. 349 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: You know what, we're faith. 350 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: You're actually giving us a great reminder you of faith 351 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: is multitasking faith. We're gonna let you put the groceries away, 352 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 4: all right, Thank you for good luck surviving the White Death. 353 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: She did a notebook over to the Biggest Snowfall. When 354 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: Jim Cantorre is talking about you getting hit with the 355 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: weather condition. It's not a good sign. Yeah, even even 356 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: Minnesota's are going to be like, oh a, Tennessee, that's 357 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: a lot of snow. So we're gonna we're gonna tell 358 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: you we're gonna have to have jd On here to 359 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 4: talk to him. So it's a reminder we haven't had 360 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: jd On in a while. So let's get let's reach 361 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: out to jd and get him in the mix here 362 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: talk about a whole range of things. 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Go to chalksechoq dot 382 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: com promo code Buck. 383 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 384 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton show we can continue to wait. 385 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: The White House press conference, President Trump addressing on the 386 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: one year anniversary of his swearing in as we begin 387 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: the second year of Trump. I saw this morning. I 388 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: was reading axios Buck, and I know there were probably 389 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: left wingers out there who just had tears running down 390 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: their cheeks. We still have over one thousand days left 391 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: of Trump two point zero. So this is you know, 392 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: we're twenty five percent done, but we still have seventy 393 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: five percent of the of the fund still to come. 394 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that people are not still behaving in 395 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: a crazy fashion on the view. In fact, they may 396 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: have gotten crazier. I saw this this morning as I 397 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: was getting ready for the show, Buck, they had Pam 398 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: Greer on. Pam Greer was a star Foxy Brown of 399 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: the so called like sort of black ployitation movies of 400 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies. She was born in nineteen forty nine. 401 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: She was on the View talking with Sonny hostin This 402 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: is Crazy. Listen to her say that when she was 403 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: growing up in Columbus, Ohio, lynchings were so common for 404 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: her that her mom had to tell her not to 405 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: look at the dead black bodies that had been lynched 406 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: by white people. This is on the View earlier today. 407 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: Listen, the military wouldn't allow black families to live on 408 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: the base, so you had to live in an apartment 409 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: and you couldn't take a bus, you couldn't afford a car. 410 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: You walk, your dad's walked to the base and who 411 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: Sometimes we would go from tree shade to Shaye to 412 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: get back to the apartment, my brother and I my 413 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: mom with bags, and my mom would. 414 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 7: Go, don't look, look, don't look. 415 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: She'd pull us away because there is someone hanging from 416 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: a tree. And they have a memorial for it now 417 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: where you can see where people were and left, and 418 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: it triggers me today. 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: Okay buck. 420 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: According to Endwoken, this great Twitter account to follow out there. 421 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: The last lynching in Ohio happened in nineteen eleven. Pam 422 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Greer was born in nineteen forty nine, so she went 423 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: on the view. No one pushed back and said that's 424 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: a totally untrue story, but that lynchings were so common. 425 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: She said in Columbus, Ohio, that she had to not 426 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: look at the trees as she walked back to her home. 427 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think here, Like, how has 428 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: she convinced herself that this was true? How does Sonny 429 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: Hostin not push back? I mean, this is scary, honestly. 430 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: They everyone on the left will recognize that victim status 431 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: is something that is very desirable because when you're a 432 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: victim and you tell a victim narrative about yourself and 433 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: all of the things in your life that haven't gone 434 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: the way that you want them to are somebody else's fault, 435 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: and you also have a claim about how it is 436 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: their fault, therefore they should do more for you, or 437 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: is their fault therefore something else should be made to 438 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: happen for you. And because the left is so in 439 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: my opinion, the left is so I guess everything I 440 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: say here is my opinion. But you know what I mean, 441 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: deeply enmeshed in this ideology, like this faith of victimhood 442 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: that they have. They don't even recognize absurd exaggerate, Like 443 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: they're just like. 444 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's her, that's her story of victimhood. 445 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: So like I have to respect that, you know what, 446 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: that's her lived experience, even though that wasn't her lived experience. 447 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: But you know, the mentality is, however you're going to 448 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: describe your oppression narrative must be accepted by others because 449 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: oppression narratives are so important to people who are of 450 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 4: the leftist mindset. And I actually believe it's like structurally 451 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: in the in the working of the mind left and 452 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: right political sense is. I think it's much more in 453 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: the brain than it is than a lot of people 454 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 4: think about or a lot of people will get into, 455 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: because I just can't imagine a pro the world the 456 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: way so many of these people do. Whether it's the 457 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: maniac screaming at ice officers in the streets, or it's 458 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: this kind of you washed up actress saying that she saw, 459 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: you know, lynchings in the trees by her home. I mean, 460 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: they're just all used in making stuff up to first 461 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: the purposes of self pity Clay that I don't think 462 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: any of them want to call anyone else out because 463 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: this is so common, Does. 464 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: That make sense? 465 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 4: Like this is like this, this is like in the nineties, 466 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: there was like, oh, I've experienced so much racism. You'd 467 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: hear this from people, particularly people from communities of color, 468 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: not all of them leftists. I'm talking about people that 469 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: would make these kinds of claims, and you'd be like, 470 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: what racism you experienced? Like, well, there was a detective 471 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: that followed me once in a store, you know, we'd 472 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: always hear this, yeah. 473 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: And he'd be like, well, what were you actually followed? 474 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: And how do you know he was a detective? 475 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: And I'd be like, you know, I've actually been like, 476 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: had people look at me before when I was younger, 477 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: and I thought that I might be like, are you 478 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: sure it was because of your your skin color? 479 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: Are you sure that? The point is everyone's allowed to 480 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: play this game on the left. 481 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: No one's going to call this out, no matter how 482 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 4: absurd it is, because in this case, by the way, honestly, 483 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: what do you do you think, Sonny Houston even has 484 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: any idea of when the last lynching was in this 485 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: country or. 486 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: Even how few there were relative to the overall population. 487 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Right. 488 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: In other words, if you go back and you study 489 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: that entire era, which was awful and did exist, right, 490 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: But this idea that it was so common that people 491 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: alive today would have any recollection of it at all. 492 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: You would have to be one hundred years old basically 493 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: to have any true recollection of an incident like that. 494 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: And Pam Greer is nowhere near that age. Again, the 495 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: last lynching in Ohio happened thirty eight years before she 496 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: was born, two generations. Play, Clay, if you really want 497 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: to get people fired up, talk about how most lynchings 498 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: didn't involve black people at all. Well, if that is 499 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: historical fact, I just want to very clear, most lynchings 500 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: in this country were not of black Americans. 501 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: That is a fact. But you hear that, people, oh, 502 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 4: they get very upset. This is it's like saying that 503 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: there were former slaves in the South who owned slaves, 504 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: yes themselves. These are other facts. These are facts historically. 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: Go check them out. Please fact check me if I'm wrong. 506 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: But Clay, that's a very uncomfortable reality for some people 507 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: because the narrative is so powerful. 508 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, not only that, it's if you ask any questions 509 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: at all about it, to your point, if you say, 510 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: are you sure that was racism? Like I lived through this, 511 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: and I was talking about earlier. We were at the 512 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: Indiana Miami game and just how much patriotism it felt 513 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: like in that stadium as they sang the national anthem, 514 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: put Trump on the scoreboard, everybody cheered. 515 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: But it wasn't very long ago. 516 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: People were taking these and there were players coming out 517 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, I was racially profiled, to your point, 518 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: and I remember one of the players saying, I was 519 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: racially profiled at, you know, a Las Vegas casino. I said, 520 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: that seems kind of unlikely. I mean, if you pointed, 521 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: if you said to me, hey, what place in America 522 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: has more cameras per capita than a casino Because they're 523 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: trying to catch everybody to make sure you're not cheating 524 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: at cards, to make sure you're whether or not you 525 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: actually won your your you know, slot machine game, all 526 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: those things. Video comes out and it wasn't actually true 527 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: at all, right, as often is the case, And you've 528 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: talked about with BLM basically dying because now everybody has 529 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: a video of the police officers. 530 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: And what we overwhelmingly see us they're pretty good. 531 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 4: Now, now we get into this, so then by the numbers, okay, 532 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 4: so this is not going to be what qualifies as 533 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: a lynching. Now, this is if you consider a posse 534 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: formed of individuals anywhere engaged in what is considered frontier 535 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: justice that hung somebody outside of normal judicial procedure, I would, 536 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean I think that. So now it's what is 537 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: what is your definition of a lynching? The numbers are 538 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: roughly seventy thirty black victims, white victims. Is I'm pulling 539 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: this up here, But now you have to get into well, 540 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: what's considered a lynching because this is just this is 541 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 4: excluding anything considered frontier justice. Yeah, so now you get 542 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: into well so, but but then how are you separating 543 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: out a lynch mob from frontier justice. I guess it's 544 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 4: the presence. So basically, if there was a judicial procedure 545 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: that they went around, they're saying that is not. But 546 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: if you consider non judicial proceedings on the frontier where 547 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: people were hanged to also be a lynching, then yes, 548 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: there are more lynchings of individuals who are not black. 549 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 4: But even even by the NUBAC by the way, these 550 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: are the NAACP's numbers. Even by the NAACP's numbers, do 551 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: people know that thirty percent of their qualification of lynchings 552 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: were white? 553 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: This is not I mean, how. 554 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 4: Many people if you still hear this, that the lynchings 555 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 4: are only now. Of course it's one of the ugliest things. 556 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: It's horrible, it's racist, all of that. But we should 557 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 4: know what the actual numbers or the actual reality of 558 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: the of the history of this. 559 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Was, and we should be thankful that basically no one 560 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: living today has ever experienced one, right, by and large, 561 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: right and uh. And so when you have somebody like 562 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Pam greor come on, if you point out that that 563 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: can't be true, then they typically come back with, what, oh, 564 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: you're racist. 565 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, you don't know what it's like to live in 566 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: this experience. 567 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: And this is where I come back to objective reality 568 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: and facts have to matter. And so for the view 569 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: to have this this story happening, and you know this, buck, 570 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: they pre vet all of the answers to questions and 571 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: know exactly to a large extent, what is going to 572 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: be said, so oftentimes they conduct pre interviews for these 573 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: shows because so many of their hosts are morons that 574 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: they know what's going to be said. They still didn't correct. 575 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: And just just to give you a sense of why. 576 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: So there's a thousand a thousand documented cases of frontier 577 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: justice where people were hanged by mobs that they're saying 578 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: are non lynch So it's like, now we're getting into 579 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: a the definition of lynches. And if you add those 580 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: numbers in now it gets a lot closer. So's it's 581 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: getting to be more like fifty to fifty. But the 582 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: point is merely people should understand the history of this 583 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: such that they don't think that anybody alive today was 584 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: witnessing lynchings on their way, and. 585 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Then it would be so common that your mom would 586 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: be like, you can't look in the trees. Somebody just 587 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: has to call out this BS. This is I actually 588 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: didn't know this. Estimates for Mexican American lynchings in the 589 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Southwest range from six hundred to over five thousand. This 590 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: is again I'm just going based off of what groc 591 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: is saying here for all of these numbers. So this 592 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: is my point. So what I gave you. 593 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: By the way, Initially those are the the official NAACP 594 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: numbers on lynchings, which is seventy thirty black and white. 595 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: And to be clear, these now we're really look, this 596 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: is all eighteen hundreds we're talking about here, mostly. 597 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: Eighteen forty eight eighteen forty and a lot of those 598 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: would be so called posse's right, like they would decide 599 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: somebody has stolen. 600 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: This is what This is what I'm talking when I 601 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: said most lynches are not there. There is a there's 602 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: This is interesting actually historically, and I'm seeing this play 603 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: out now in the way that they do these numbers, 604 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: so they make a distinction between like a non judicial 605 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: hanging versus a non judicial hanging where there is some 606 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 4: judicial procedure that was supposed to be in place, and 607 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: that is how they get to the seventy thirty them. Okay, well, 608 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it really mattered very much 609 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 4: the people being hanged without due process. 610 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm just going to point that out. 611 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: And Pam Greer one billion percent is lying here, and 612 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: the fact that ABC would air that on the view, 613 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: the fact that they would know she's going to say it, 614 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: and nobody would push back at all I mean, it's crazy, 615 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: and it goes to what Buck's saying is there is 616 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: a profound desperate hope to be a victim in left 617 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: wing culture. Jesse Smallett is just such a primary evidentiary 618 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: fact of that that they want to have awful things happen. 619 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: They want to have experience orienced awful things. They want 620 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: to have been victims. And Pam Greer is marinating in 621 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: something that never happened. I wonder what she's even thinking 622 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: of to claim that that occurred and to be allowed 623 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: to air. 624 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: All right, we come back. Are we still waiting? 625 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 7: Guys? 626 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: They still haven't started the White House Press conference? I 627 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: don't think they have still waiting on that. 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He is showing should 653 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: we just go to him while he's doing this, because 654 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a quick turnaround here. 655 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: We could join him in progress in a second. 656 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: But basically he's just saying he's got he's holding up 657 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: these photos of people saying Minnesota worst of the worst 658 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: for who Ice is actually going after in Minnesota. So 659 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: he's leading with this, not Greenland, which I think this 660 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: issue matters a lot more to Americans right now. 661 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: So that makes sense. But do you want to go 662 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: to them. Life's the big guy, the president. 663 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 5: Given to a large degree, but by Somalians, they've taken it. Somalians, 664 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 5: can you imagine, And they don't do it. A lot 665 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 5: of very low IQ people they don't do it. Other 666 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: people work it out and they get them money and 667 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 5: they go out and buy Mercedes Benzes, and they come 668 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 5: from here. They have no money. They never had money, 669 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: they never had a life, they never had a government, 670 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: they never had a country, because there's basically no country. 671 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 5: Somalia is not even a country. They don't have anything 672 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 5: that resembles a country. And if it is a country, 673 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 5: it's considered just about the worst in the world. They 674 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 5: come here, they become rich and they don't have a job. 675 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 5: I was told that ilan Omar is worth thirty million dollars. 676 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 5: You never had a job. She's a crooked congressman. So 677 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 5: here no one and I have by the way, we 678 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 5: just took out these are all what Ice is doing, 679 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 5: and it's a dangerous job. These are rough these are 680 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 5: rough people weapons. This one here is very bad. I'm 681 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 5: going through this because I think we have plenty of time. 682 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 5: So I'm going to uh place, beautiful place in Switzerland 683 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 5: where will be. 684 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm very He's just. 685 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 4: Holding up wanted poster. Wanted poster basically right now, you guys, 686 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: bud yeah, switchland. 687 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 2: They don't know about this. We'll come back to President Trump. 688 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: Let's continue to run the uh run that because he's 689 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: holding up stuff sometimes not that easy to see. 690 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: We'll come back to it. 691 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 4: I'm bringing to the highlights and actually just just as 692 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: a way of because I obviously was going back and 693 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: forth for a second. We're talking about that sound bite 694 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 4: a moment ago, and about the history and the facts 695 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: around lynching. Wilfred Riley, who was a scholar, an author 696 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: or a friend of mine, and he has a book Lies. 697 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: My liberal teacher told me he wrote this. This is 698 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 4: this is about a year ago. 699 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: Overall. 700 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm quoting from Wilfrid Now again he's a professor, and 701 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 4: this is what was part of his most recent book, 702 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: More Whites than Blacks were Lynched in twenty three states, 703 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: a majority of states at the time before we add 704 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 4: in Hispanic and Native numbers at all. I talk about 705 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: this extensively in chapter five of Lies Like I Said, Lies, 706 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: my liberal teacher told me, a great book. He writes 707 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: lynching was often racist, of course, but posse justice was 708 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: very often just how communities dealt with the qus rapists 709 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: and cattle thieves and such before this state became firmly 710 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: established as a sole arbiter of force a posse. The 711 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 4: title of every third Western movie was a lynch mob. 712 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 4: And that was the point I was getting to before, 713 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 4: is if you actually add the numbers together for everybody 714 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 4: who was extra judicially hanged, it's not even close to 715 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: being a majority of Black Americans. And if you add 716 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 4: in the Native and Mexican numbers to it, it changes 717 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: the whole capacity. So there's a there's a narrative aspect 718 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: here to limiting the data set, limiting the time period, 719 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 4: and then telling everybody that this is something that has 720 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 4: a very specific political residence even today. So I just 721 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 4: want to I wanted to quote Will from that one 722 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: in play, so I can get the numbers out there. 723 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: No. One hundred percent and we'll come back, we'll go 724 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: to President Trump. We'll continue to follow the one year anniversary. 725 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: We'll take your talkback to your calls. Eight hundred and 726 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: two A two two eight A two. As we roll 727 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: through the Tuesday edition of the program, final hour up next, 728 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: and President Trump is heading to Davos, a little bit 729 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: of a preview. I think by the time we sit 730 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: down on Wednesday, Buck, there's going to have been a 731 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: lot of fireworks over in Europe with what he's going 732 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: to say, and heck, there may be some fireworks coming 733 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: right now before all is said and done. From this 734 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: press briefing, we're monitoring. We'll play it for you next