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Speaker 1: Oh, buddy, I'm really good.

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Speaker 3: You know, other than having some canine issues is swaring.

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Speaker 3: So now she is someone else's problem, not mine. But

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Speaker 3: other than that, I'm really good, buddy, really good. I

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Speaker 3: know we've got I think we've got Team USA and

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Speaker 3: down in Miami. So I can't get away from the

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Speaker 3: verses with the United States of America and those narratives.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for that big upside. Italy beating the United

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Speaker 2: States came out of left field, so to speak. Good one, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, But I'm good, dude, and really excited to

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Speaker 1: be here with you.

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Speaker 2: A lot to get to well, I've I've been feeling

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Speaker 2: down a little bit. You know, mainly two things. I

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Speaker 2: was listening to Pastor Paula and I couldn't. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: was speaking in tongus translators I kind of cocka coca

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Speaker 2: and it just made me feel like, yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: Before before he gets started, just a quick pitch stuff.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in that evangelical faith. I'll explain the

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Speaker 3: speaking in tongues. I'm sure you know all about it.

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Speaker 3: You do know it's gibberis right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Well I was trying to figure it out

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Speaker 2: that he insisted everybody wear lace, black shoes, be suited

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Speaker 2: evenly tied like and you could be fired if this

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Speaker 2: story this is yeah, this is the whale story. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely so so shoes right, there's I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: an Italian proverb that says that you can tell much

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Speaker 2: about a man by looking at his looking at his shoes, right,

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Speaker 2: A gentleman should have a good pair of shoes. And

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Speaker 2: you have this whole maga, this whole maga regime is

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Speaker 2: wearing these floor shim shoes. Right. If you're going to

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Speaker 2: meet the Italians, the British, the you know, countries with

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Speaker 2: little Marco so Trump guesses your shoe size right, like

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Speaker 2: He's like I would look at you and I'd be like,

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Speaker 2: all right, fifteen and and and you know it doesn't

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Speaker 2: know this is Steve.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm sorry you're not in the Trump

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Speaker 3: I know you're sad about it and reversing even further,

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Speaker 1: But let's just let's.

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Speaker 2: Deal with the shoe issue.

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Speaker 1: Because there are stories around the regime that.

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Speaker 3: Lay outside genocide, that lay outside fascism, that lay outside

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Speaker 3: the main directives of the conversations that we have. Right

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Speaker 3: this shoe story is one of them. Lindsey Graham's another one.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to him in just a second. Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: is forcing his cabinet males, his catch just the men,

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Speaker 3: So like, I mean this this easy going Florida keys

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Speaker 3: these shoes as Donald Trump is forcing his cabinet to wear,

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Speaker 3: and they're all afraid not to wear them, like they're

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Speaker 3: all singularly petrified, like they go, here's your shoe. Trump says,

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Speaker 3: just put the fucking shoe on. And it's one hundred

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Speaker 2: And it's got the foe sene on it right, like

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Speaker 2: that's not shined. That is not a shined leather shoe.

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Speaker 3: Like the pants that I used to buy when I

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Speaker 3: the time, and he says, hey, you gotta change your shoes.

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Speaker 3: You gotta wear shoes today. We're gonna be sitting in

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Speaker 3: wearing now. As weird as this is made even funnier

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Speaker 2: A true story. Yeah he does.

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Speaker 3: It's like Marco five three. Yeah, I'm gonna get him

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Speaker 3: at fourteen or a fifteen to your kidding. And there's

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Speaker 3: this picture if you go to the warnes, if you

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Speaker 1: It's like two three days ago and Marco.

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Speaker 3: He guessed wrong with Marco by about seven sizes and

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Speaker 3: You don't wearing his dad's shoe, right, like when you're

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Speaker 3: all about. It is such a brilliant fucking visual that

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Speaker 3: nature and pardon my French, the ball licking of every

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Speaker 3: siicophantic member of his cabinet, specifically the males in his cabinet.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into the females of the

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Speaker 3: You combine that with this gold pin that he makes

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Speaker 2: Out of now. The first guy to wear that was

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Speaker 2: You gotta wear like you got to wear layers of socks.

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Speaker 2: I guess I get a big thick sock on. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, Dean had been talking about some new electronics.

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Speaker 2: And to watch Lindsey Graham grow into what he has become,

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Speaker 2: is an astonishing moment to watch this very puerile individual,

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Speaker 2: an astonishing, astonishing, an astonishing journey that Lindsey Graham has taken.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking about waiting for you to get

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Speaker 1: What happened to him?

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Speaker 2: Well, all of the what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: What happened to him over the years, over the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I say what happened to him?

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Speaker 3: I think what I'm referring to is that I don't

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Speaker 3: really quite understand what happened to He had a little statesman,

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Speaker 2: Him, you know, about Lindsay Graham.

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Speaker 3: You understand that this man is severely compromised in ways

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Speaker 3: that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of people don't even understand.

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Speaker 3: Right, And it's almost as if, and that's the impetus

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Speaker 3: for the question as to what happened to him, It's

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Speaker 3: almost as if, you know, he's just kind of said fuck.

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Speaker 2: It, I'm going full villain. I'm gonna sell a bunch

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell everybody that that we're gonna, we're gonna,

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Speaker 3: we're coming for your oil. We're gonna murder you if

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Speaker 3: you're not a friend of the United States Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: So he's gone full Trump.

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Speaker 3: And if you remember, back when the insurrection happened J six,

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Speaker 3: Well, especially when you got nothing left. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: But I think it leans into this incredible story that

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Speaker 1: That's a choice.

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Speaker 3: It's all the things that people love to Those are

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Speaker 1: I'm going to abandon.

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Speaker 3: Every value that I held, Dear, I'm going to abandon

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Speaker 3: state Media, and he's like, you know what, not only

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Speaker 3: does Cuba have no idea what's fucking coming? We're going

433
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: to wipe or ran off the face of the earth,

434
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: and I shake my head, not just because it's like

435
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: this guy's fucking insane. I shake my head because I'm like,

436
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: I do not understand. It does not compute. You talk

437
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: about values, you talk about character, you talk about a

438
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: character builder, character moment. Lindsey Graham failed spectacularly for all

439
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: the wrong reasons. And that, to me is the entire

440
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: impetus for what we stand for. Why we're here, and

441
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: why you left the Republican Party, why you've been screaming

442
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: from the mountaintops, why you started the Save America movement,

443
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: is this is a values first proposition at this point,

444
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: and if you look at someone's values, and I'm not

445
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: even talking about Donald Trump at this point, Steve, that

446
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: man doesn't have a moral compass to speak of. You know,

447
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: Linsea Graham might have. Donald Trump never has. We're dealing

448
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: with a completely fucking different animal. He's the Billy Hayes

449
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: of fascism for everything that stands behind him. He'll take

450
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: whatever money, whatever you got, He'll do anything you need.

451
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: Fuck Israel managed to convince him to attack Iran because

452
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: it might have been in his best interest, because he

453
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: wants to prevent anybody from seeing the Epstein files because

454
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: he knows what he is.

455
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: They all do and intrinsically.

456
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: And that's the part I wanted to ask you, because

457
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: you and I have lived a long and fruitful life. Right,

458
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: we're both in our fifties, and we have both come

459
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: to the realization that at some point, if you're duplicitous,

460
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: it'll kill you, right if you're that guy. That's like

461
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: struggling being two different people, where you tell people that

462
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: you know you're a good guy and you're gonna do

463
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: good things for other people, and then behind the scenes, well,

464
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: we're seeing that duplicity play out in real life, and

465
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: that that duplicity personally.

466
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: You know, this almost killed me.

467
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm presenting myself as something else, something that I wasn't,

468
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: a dishonest dealer, someone who you know, built up this

469
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: this reputation of a radio guy years and years and

470
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: years ago.

471
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: This isn't about me.

472
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: But I completely understand that duplicity, and there's this shame

473
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: that comes with it. But what I want to ask

474
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 3: you is, how is it possible that none of the

475
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: these people Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth

476
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: that none of them experienced that shame, because that's the

477
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: kind of shame that kills a good person.

478
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: Steve, some years ago I had I got into this

479
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: tweet fight with Rubio and then Ted Cruz.

480
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Speaker 1: Is this why you're not allowed to be on Twitter?

481
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: Before I had my Twitter taken away. Yeah, I got

482
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: into this tweet fight with with Little Marco. And the

483
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: point that I had made, whatever whatever his origin story

484
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: originally was, it had his parents fleeing Castro, which was

485
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: not trip. They left in fifty six before Castro came

486
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: to came to power. They were they were economic refugees.

487
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: But the point I made, I said that if if

488
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: Mark Rubio were Mark Rubio in Cuba in nineteen fifty nine,

489
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: he'd be a guy dressed up in olive drive, carrying

490
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Castro's coat as you eat me. And he went crazy,

491
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: and Ted Cruz went crazy, and I was completely right

492
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: that he was exactly who I years ago right said

493
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: this twenty twenty one, twenty two was who I said

494
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: he was. He's a schemer, he's a plotter, he has

495
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: new principles. He's a he's a cohort of principle. As

496
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: men and un indite their character with their own words,

497
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: because of the passions with which they spoke about the

498
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: indictments of the causes that they now serve so well.

499
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: So we have to we have to appreciate who all

500
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Speaker 2: of them are up through the the the passion of

501
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: our judgments. But but dares m they know, they know

502
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: they've gotten in line behind a tremendous indecency. And you

503
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: know the truth of the matter is that, you know,

504
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: you look at you look at this moment, what an

505
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: unimpressive group, including General Kane.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, putting it lightly, I mean, you know, we'll get

507
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: to Iran in just a second.

508
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: But these are the biggest cheerleaders for a war that

509
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: will have no end. You know, the new.

510
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: Committee came out today and he's like, hey, we're gonna

511
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: get you everywhere. They blew up like I think seven

512
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: oil tankers in the Strait of war moves yesterday. Uh,

513
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: they warned everybody the new Iatola competing reports that he's

514
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: now in a coma because he's been hit again.

515
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: No one knows.

516
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: But I mean the threat of of what the and.

517
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: This cacistocracy if anybody's seen in the movie Idiocracy and

518
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about where you put the dumbest people

519
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: that don't have any moral compass in a position of authority,

520
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: and you've got legitimately someone who's so morally bankrupt that

521
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: he doesn't have a moral compass, that he doesn't have

522
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: a character.

523
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: The only character is money influence.

524
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: The only character is how do I hide from the

525
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: shameful things I've done in my past?

526
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: And I go back to that.

527
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: Sometimes when we have these conversations, because again, that duplicity

528
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: is a human being almost killed me years ago, where

529
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta get my shit together. I got

530
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: to tell the same story and be the same person.

531
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: My words have to match my works, right, That's one

532
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: of the most important aspects of my life, your life,

533
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: one of the most important aspects of what the Save

534
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: America movement is, which is, Hey, this is who we are,

535
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: this is why we live, and we're gonna show you.

536
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: We're not just gonna tell you. But this is a

537
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: tell me regime, right, much like the Russian regime is

538
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: a tell me regime. We're gonna tell you about your

539
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: reality and you're just gonna have to suck it up.

540
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: You're just gonna have to live with it, you know,

541
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: And that's really the shitty part for many Americans, right,

542
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: because they're exhausted at this point. And I see it

543
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: all the time, Like, you know, I've seen this, this

544
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: Iran story. I look at analytics because I'm an analytics guy,

545
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 3: and I looked at this Iran story that we put

546
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: out today, our sorry yesterday, that's through the roof. But

547
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: then I look at the comments, like hundreds of thousands

548
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: of people a ready look at the comments.

549
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm exhausted.

550
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that we're going to continue to do

551
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: this as a country, that we're allowing this man to

552
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: bomb a school. And this was the impetus for the

553
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: piece that I wrote, is that the United States of America,

554
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: with intel going back to twenty sixteen, they had not

555
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: updated their intel. Again, this is what happens when you

556
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: have an idiocracy. You put stupid people in charge of

557
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: really important shit bomb to school right next to about

558
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: a half a block away from an IRGC munition dump,

559
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: killing one hundred and seventy five girls, injuring another ninety

560
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: five girls between the ages of seven and twelve. Steve,

561
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: As You've talked about this before, with impunity.

562
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: The regime is lied about it.

563
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: Yesterday the US military came out and said, Hey, that

564
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: was us.

565
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: We did that.

566
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: That was our tomahawk.

567
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: And Donald Trump was asked about it again, and this

568
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: was my count the eleventh time in twelve days that

569
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: he said, I don't know about it. B that's Pete,

570
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: that's Marco, that's Jared. You want to talk about flailing values.

571
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: Blame everybody else not me. Can't be on me. I'm perfect.

572
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: I did nothing wrong. And then yesterday again on the

573
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: White House lawn, so dismissive of the murder of one

574
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five innocent school children's souls, he was

575
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: asked about her and he's like, I don't know anything

576
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: about that. Next question, I can't. I mean, I'm not

577
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: wired to live like that. I find it fascinating that

578
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: he is Steve. But I also find it fascinating that

579
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: he's been able to find enough people around him to

580
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: be able to make this all happen. That's still Co

581
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: signed that kind of bullshit.

582
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: I think that when we think about the storm of

583
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: history that we lived on the edge of in an

584
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: era that was somewhat shaped by it, by the Second

585
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: World War, and and being of an age where we

586
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: knew we knew men who fought in it. We knew

587
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: the our grandparents, right, men and women who lived through

588
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: all all the period, and who understood something, who understood

589
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: something about it, that that there that there are certain

590
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: values that that you want to have about life and

591
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: death and humanity and good and evil. And there was

592
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: a great contestation that shaped the early parts of our

593
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: life that was clear enough that it was easily delineated

594
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: into a black and white between liberty and oppression, between

595
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: tutalitarianism and democracy, and the prevailing of democracy over tyranny.

596
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: The fall of the Berlin Wall. Many people called it

597
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: the end of history when we were young. And the

598
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: truth is, we're facing a real catastrophe in the United States.

599
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: And by catastrophe I mean more than the bad things

600
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: that are about to happen when we have five dollars,

601
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: six dollars, seven dollars gas maybe higher, when the economy

602
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: seizes all of this a choice, and so the American

603
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: people don't get to say they're exhausted, right, the American

604
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: people have to say, we have to clean this up, right,

605
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: maybe providentially. This is a test in our two hundred

606
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: and fifty fifth year. Right, some type of cosmic drama

607
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: imposed on a different and grateful people.

608
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Like you deserve it.

609
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: Let's see old Churchill saw right, you get the government

610
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: you deserve. Yeah, and the democracy.

611
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's a double edged sword.

612
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: I said this to a buddy, Mine Flaviovolpe, who is

613
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: with the Prime Minister's Office up here in Canada. While ago,

614
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, the Trump win. Let is that democracy?

615
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, ultimately, is that democracy that the

616
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: United States of America chose to put an adjudicated rapist

617
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: back in.

618
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: The Oval office?

619
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: Not just a convicted, adjudicated rapist with EG and Carroll,

620
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: but thirty one different sexual assaults, verified credible sexual assaults

621
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: that either paid off or got out of Steve, thirty

622
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: one that we know of. Right, It's like mice when

623
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: it comes to guys like this. If there's thirty one,

624
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: there's three hundred and ten or three thousand times. If

625
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: this man has done this, bankrupt, morally fucking bankrupt guy

626
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: who treats women like Marx, A guy who is most

627
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: likely a pedophile, A guy who we know is trying

628
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: to hide pedophilia. Threatening Thomas Massey, who's begging for transparency

629
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: that you keep this up, Thomas Massey, you get transparency

630
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: for these victims. I'm gonna come at you like no

631
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: one's ever come at you right, like you know, and

632
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: in the details are the fucking story. And when I

633
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: think about anybody, and this is something here in Canada

634
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: that I willingly attach like a scarlet letter, like a

635
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 3: like a a caller around any support for Donald Trump.

636
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: At this point, the delineation is rape. The delineation is

637
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: protecting pedophiles. The delineation for me is being a pedophile.

638
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: The delineation is being a serial sexual, violent predator of

639
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: women and children.

640
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: That's the delineation.

641
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: And we go back to you know what kind of

642
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: person and and and and tell me about that person's morals,

643
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: Tell me about that person's center, tell me who they are.

644
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Who goes you know what? I can overlook all that.

645
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: If I've got cheap gas, well fuck guess what. To

646
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: Steve's point, they're paying six dollars a gas for diesel

647
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 3: in South Carolina this morning, So there goes your cheap gas.

648
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Speaker 3: So the abandonment of morals and character when we're picking

649
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Speaker 3: our leaders in the United States of America, not once

650
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: but twice and still the the the the the fervent

651
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: co signing of anything to do with this man. Because

652
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: of the ideology and the collected groups behind him, and

653
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: the cult which is Maga. It is impossible for me

654
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: at this point of my life to look.

655
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Speaker 1: At any Canadian.

656
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: And I've got Canadian.

657
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: Friends that I do not fucking talk to like you

658
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: and I have had this conversation.

659
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: It's called integrity.

660
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: I've got people that I've done business with over the

661
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: past who still support Donald Trump, and I cannot delineate

662
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: anymore between their support for him and their support for pedophilia,

663
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: their support for rape, the support for the destruction of

664
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Speaker 3: the United States economy, their support for the destruction of

665
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: the empire, this once great beautiful city and freedom on

666
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: the hill. I cannot separate anybody from that. And I

667
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: don't care who you fucking are. And so to you again,

668
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: to your greater point, you got the government you deserved.

669
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: You got the government you deserve because enough people in

670
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 3: that country felt like, you know, there's a stroke here

671
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: for me. If I just keep up appearances and you

672
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: talk to any Republican without the hard core Republicans the room,

673
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: they'll tell you the same thing. It's a it's a

674
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: game of survival at this point, Steve, really a game

675
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 3: of fucking survival at this point, a survival like you

676
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: you want to protect a pedophile and a serial fucking

677
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: rapist because you're gonna keep your pension. That does not

678
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: register with me. Steve does not register. And it's it's

679
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: that's the disease in America now, it's this exceptionalism that

680
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, we're so exceptional. We can overlook a guy

681
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: who's a serial fucking rapist. We can overlook the protection

682
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: of hundreds of pedophiles and thousands of victims whose innocence

683
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: were stolen from them as children, whose families were blown

684
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: up as a result.

685
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: Because he wants to hidle. I mean it, it is

686
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Speaker 1: And I live in Canada.

687
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: I know you live in Canada for for a portion

688
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: of the year as well. And we have the exact

689
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: opposite to that guy leading Canada, Mark Karney, who yesterday

690
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: made two announcements. Two announcements forty nation forty nation compact,

691
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 3: one point five billion people, forty percent of the GDP,

692
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: all the democratic countries. Mark Karney is the leader of

693
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: that table yet to have a name. Good because I

694
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: hate names. The other thing that we announced yesterday is

695
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: the European Union has taken on basically adopted Canada as

696
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: its closest partner, which means that one of those partners

697
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: had to move out. Which partner was at that was America.

698
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: Can I tell you what that was all based on,

699
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: other than the fact that Mark Karney's fucking incredibly competent.

700
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: What we're discussing character values, virtues that stability people can

701
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: believe in this country.

702
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: So you look at.

703
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: Both of these situations, what did Canada vote for. We

704
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: voted for competency. We voted for a practicing stoic. We

705
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: voted for a guy who's like, here's who I am,

706
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: here's my values in virtual conservative when it comes to finances,

707
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: I want this to do well, but I'm socially prepared

708
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: to do whatever it takes to make sure this country

709
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: is inclusive, but not overly inclusive, performably inclusive. None of

710
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: that bullshit, none of the woke stuff. We're just gonna

711
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: go forward. We're going to let people live their lives,

712
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: and we're we're gonna focus on what's important. When I

713
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: look at the United States today especially, none of those

714
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: things are important. And Canada now has usurped the United

715
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: States of America, and Mark Carney has usurped Donald Trump

716
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: or any president of the United States, which is unfucking

717
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: thinkable as the new leader of the free democratic world.

718
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: And that is based on values and virtues, that is

719
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: based on courage, wisdom, temperance, justice, love, and fucking doing

720
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: the right thing when it really really matters the most.

721
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: That is not something that is anywhere in the Venn

722
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Speaker 3: diagram of what the Trump regime in the US government

723
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Speaker 3: stands for.

724
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Speaker 2: No, no, I it's very this all that this must

725
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: be a post. And there you said, you said a

726
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: lot of things there, and I just I'm gonna go

727
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: through a couple of them. The first, Thomas Massey is

728
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: an interesting cat. Lost his wife not long ago. Just

729
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: to understand Trump's cruelty, Trump attacked Massey's dead wife to

730
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: Massy and he's still grieving. You know, he was recently remarried,

731
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: but you know it was Trump has for for a

732
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: long time been engaged with Thomas Massey. And so Massey

733
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: I believe is an M. I. T. H. Engineer, uh

734
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: farmer up in northern Kentucky. He's the conservative. But the

735
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: thing you won't get in line with is child rape.

736
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: And he has made a stand with Rocanna and have

737
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: been the drivers of the demand that all this be released,

738
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: that all must be released. And the drip and drop

739
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: of it, every one of them, the drip and the

740
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: drop implicates Donald Trump and all this stuff. So at

741
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: any rate, Trump just went to the district with his

742
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: hand pick candidate who's a Navy seal and he's got

743
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: his tried in on his lapel. And this guy gets

744
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: up and displays a moral cowardice that is epic. The

745
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: Navy seal, this moral coward and he says things that

746
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: are profoundly stupid, like I'm here to make a stand

747
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: against the ladies of the view. I stand with Trump.

748
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: Fight fight fight, and just pure idiocy. And you look

749
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: at the you look at the background, and you see

750
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: the crowd there, and you know what you're talking about

751
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: someone at some level. Right, for the first time in

752
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: my life, I'm like, you know, I don't want it.

753
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to be in a country with

754
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: these people. Right. Hold, these are my fellow citizens, what

755
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: like they're all from They're all from the welfare States,

756
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: all from the taker States. We don't talk enough about that. Right,

757
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: Which states that you know, were the economic engine of

758
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: the of the country, and which states take the resources

759
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: of the economic engine of the of the country. What

760
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: are the provider states and what are the taker states?

761
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: They all have something in common, right, The taker states

762
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: all have Lindy Grahams as senators. Right. But but but

763
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: at any rate, right beyond beyond that, it's just despicable.

764
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: And it's a character test, right, It's a character test

765
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: for a community. Is that is that like what is

766
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: going on? What is destroyed the civic bonds, the sense

767
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: of duty, connection to country, on to patriotism, affection, good judgment,

768
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: basic morality for an entire community that on the word

769
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: of Trump and his commandment, now shall purge from public

770
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: office a man who was one of you who drew

771
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: a line at protecting children. Right. So I don't know

772
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: how to dissociate from a judgment perspective, right at at

773
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: the twelfth year of this right, So I suppose, And

774
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: this is why why temperamentally I be a bad be

775
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: a bad office holder. Right is is at the at

776
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: the end of the day, what we have to be

777
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: for is a politics not of retribution, but of accountability. Right,

778
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 2: So this doesn't this doesn't ever happen again, and we

779
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: we need we need not have empty victories. We got

780
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: to have we have to have. We have to have

781
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: people who win elections who are gonna do serious oversight

782
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: and get to the bottom of everything. You Christy known

783
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: you just read the stories, for example, the Daily Beast alone, Right,

784
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: it's very lonely outside the gate. They're all turning on her,

785
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: and they're all going to be outside the gate at

786
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: some point. We're going to find out everything that happened

787
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: all of these people, and we have to be we

788
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: have to be committed to making sure that the crowd

789
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: cheering Donald Trump and Kentucky is never the majority that

790
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: decides the fate of the world in this country. Right.

791
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: And so so that to me, right, I don't know

792
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: how you evade something right that that we're going to

793
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: have to talk about. People don't like talking about the

794
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: past and looking backwards. But if Kamala Harris runs for president,

795
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Biden in twenty twenty four.

796
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: And it's not good necessarily to talk about this stuff.

797
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: But there has to be an appreciation that those are

798
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: the people who lost to Donald Trump, who was a

799
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: malignant force. This was not a surprisingly malignant force. This

800
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: is a predictably malignant force who even if you understood

801
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: this was going to be a catastrophe, the emotional shock

802
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: and awe of experiencing it day to day is different.

803
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: Experience is always different. We're living through it now, right.

804
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: But losing to this had an immense consequence. Appeasing it

805
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: for a year in the Congress by the schumercrats had

806
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: an immense consequence, the building of the Ice Army being

807
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: just one of them. And so so going forward, this

808
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: all of this has to be brought to heal and

809
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: and and the obvious things have to be done so

810
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: we can talk seriously about the reforms that to be done.

811
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: One of them is is that we need to expand

812
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: the size of the House of Representatives to about six

813
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to six hundred and seventy five seats,

814
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: and this will shrink the number of districts, and it

815
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: will hopefully be accompanied by limitations on the ability to

816
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: jerry man those districts and to draw the lines we

817
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: need to. We need to end, constitutionally or otherwise the

818
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 2: system where the politicians pick their voters as a terrible consequence,

819
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: we have to we have to put constitutional delineations on

820
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 2: corporate financeing of elections and billionaire financing and free speech.

821
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: We have to figure that out in a manner consistent

822
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: with the First Amendment. But twenty percent of every dollar

823
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: now spent on politics is spend by a billionaire in

824
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: the United States. And they're an incredibly small percentage of

825
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: the population but an outsized part of the voice. And

826
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: they've become transgressive in their greed. And so the Democratic

827
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: Party has to be a party that stands up and says,

828
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: we have to take power back in the name of

829
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: the American people from a gathering of that power in

830
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: too few hands like Mark Zuckerberg's.

831
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Speaker 4: Hands, Elon must hands, and the AI guy's hands, and

832
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: so on and so on and so on, and so

833
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 4: these media companies will need to be broken up, These

834
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: big tech companies will need to be broken up, and

835
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: they'll need to lose their immunizations from being able to

836
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 4: be sued for the.

837
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: Tremendous farm they've done in the society. At some level,

838
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: what they are are the cigarette companies of the modern age.

839
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: And we have to get a lasso around all of

840
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: it before we get into the AI aspect of this.

841
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: We have, we have, We're gonna have millions of people

842
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: praying to AI gods and speaking to AI therapists telling

843
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: them to kill themselves. Right, not good at any any

844
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: stretch of the of the genation. Not good.

845
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: No, no.

846
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's funny because every time I

847
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: talk to you, you get a little more context for

848
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: why you're in this mess. Why America is America or

849
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: that America, the difference between mag Americans and better America.

850
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: And there's so many more of you, right, you know,

851
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: there's so many more people that did not vote for

852
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: this and anybody who still supports it, you know, and

853
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: I think in there, you know, you find a little

854
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: bit of hope as a Canadian, you know, as someone

855
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: who you know, to quote my friend Soren at the

856
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: No Words March when we went with the Save of

857
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: America group Malcolm Nance, Ken Harbaugh, Denver Riggleman, who said

858
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 3: I want my big brother back. Canadians feel the same way, right.

859
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: The misrepresentation of those values that we're so closely held

860
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: to our own, you know, something's got to change. And

861
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 3: here in Canada you're doing electoral reform. We're now starting

862
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: to talk about that too. We just passed a bill

863
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: called Bill C nine, which means, hey, you insite hate

864
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: speech someone gets hurt for, You're gonna get fucking criminally charged.

865
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: That just passed yesterday.

866
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: How is that being passed off by Mega and maple

867
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: maga censorship? They're coming for free speech. Joe Rogan's talking

868
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: about canceling podcasts in Canada now today. It's just pure ridiculousness,

869
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: pure ridiculousness, and that ridiculousness that I see, and I

870
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: see people like you some other people that we know

871
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: that have these solutions to be able to say, how

872
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: do we protect ourselves against this?

873
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: Again?

874
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: I think the first thing that everybody needs to remember

875
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: is we wrap this up is at some point in

876
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: time all of us, whether you voted conservative or liberal

877
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: in Canada, you voted Democrat or GOP in the United

878
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 3: States of America, are going to have to ask yourself

879
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: what you are voting for, not who.

880
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: Cult a personality is a big deal.

881
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: We get it.

882
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: You can take that cul.

883
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 3: To personality, you can turn it into something that takes

884
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: over a party.

885
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: That party then takes over a country. We just saw

886
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: it with maga.

887
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: We saw it with Hitler and the Socialist Party of Germany,

888
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 3: which then became the Nazi Party.

889
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.

890
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: He went and asked the trade unions to make him

891
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: their leader. He said he was going to make life

892
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: better for everybody. But we have to start asking ourselves

893
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: what are they wrapping that cult of personality? And I

894
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: think about core competency when I think about leadership at

895
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: this points, Steve right, and that core competency always comes

896
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 3: down to the character of the individual that you are

897
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: giving your agency too when you give a vote, when

898
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: you cast your vote, when you say that's what I'm

899
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: going to support, that's what I'm going to actually send

900
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: money to on a monthly basis. If you're sending money

901
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: to somebody who says, hey, listen, this is your last

902
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: chance to get the Trump gold watch, and by the way,

903
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: this might keep me out of prison for the rest

904
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: of my life, you're sending money to the wrong person.

905
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: You're supporting the wrong impetus for whatever it is. And

906
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: that is the fucking amazing thing about the United States

907
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: of America. And I see it all the time, and

908
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: I'll say this and then I'll shut up, But I

909
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 3: see it all the time. When I see a close

910
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: up of Donald Trump's face as he waltzes out of

911
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: the Oval Office for some kind of presser on the

912
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 3: White House lawn, or the acup is even bigger right

913
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: where the hair is even more fucking boofonted, And I'm like, oh,

914
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: this is America. As a Canadian, that is what we've

915
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: been taught that America is, Which is this representation that

916
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: is so unrealistic, so put on, so unreal.

917
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean that you've got.

918
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: A president of the United States that literally gets a

919
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: spray tan before he walks out of his bedroom in

920
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: the morning, just his face though, just his face, And that.

921
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: To me was like this aha moment.

922
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: Our friend Aaron Rupar is now literally keeping track of

923
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: how much orange, how much more orange his face gets

924
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: on a daily basis, How he uses face paint to

925
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: cover up his hands and cover up this what appears

926
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: to be some kind of chemotherapy or shingles rash that

927
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: he's got here on his neck. It's all performative, it's

928
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: all made up those aren values, the learned virtues. That's

929
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: not leadership. That's a fucking arsonist. That is a con man.

930
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: Thats a fascist.

931
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: That is a dictator, That is someone who knows that

932
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: if you believe in him, why do you think that

933
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: he's putting his face on giant tapestries in front of

934
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: the DOJ Because he needs you to think that he's

935
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: in charge. He needs you to do none of the

936
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: fucking stuff we've seen from him, says otherwise, he's not

937
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: in charge of shit. This guy is literally stealing from you,

938
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: running around the world, killing people, trying to prevent everybody

939
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: from seeing him in pictures and videos with probably minors.

940
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: You know.

941
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: Richard Kahan was on the stand yesterday and again this

942
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: is now all shut up after this. Richard Kahn is

943
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein's accountant who said, yeah, yeah, we paid people

944
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: off on behalf of Donald Trump, including that miner in question.

945
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah we did that.

946
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: The estate did that part of a massive settlement with

947
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: other people. But yeah, yeah we did that. That happened yesterday.

948
00:58:53,920 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: That literally happened. So when we ask ourselves that quoteout,

949
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 3: what are you supporting? If you support Donald Trump, that's

950
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: what you support. And that's something that I'll never get

951
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: my head around, and it's something that you can't get

952
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: your head around, and probably why you spend half your

953
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: year in Canada, probably why you spend the other half

954
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: of your year in the United States with the Save

955
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: America movement, literally giving everything you have to try to

956
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: save that beautiful country. And listen, we know you're in there.

957
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: Like as Canadians, we know you guys are there. We

958
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: love y'all, we love y'all. We're just waiting for you

959
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: to cut that metastasized cancer right out and waiting to

960
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 3: have our friend back.

961
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: And that is what's truly important to all of us

962
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: here in Canada.

963
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: I would just say to that is that I think

964
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: that there's one thing that they, meaning MAGA, cannot get

965
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: their head around, and I honestly don't understand it, and

966
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: I don't have a doubt about what side is going

967
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: to be the winning side here, and it is going

968
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: to be It's going to be our side. But there

969
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: is no work around for the outcome of elections. Illegal aliens,

970
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: as MAGA likes to call undocumented individuals, do not vote.

971
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: You have one hundred instances out of hundreds of millions

972
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: of votes cast. It's an insignificant blip of an asterisk,

973
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: of a pimple, of a decimal point of a number.

974
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: It's not a real thing. And what Donald Trump broke

975
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: was the legacy in the lineage of the peaceful transition

976
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: of power that goes all the way back to John

977
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: Adams losing an election and leaving the White House, and

978
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 2: what he is poison and is an idea about who

979
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: is in charge. And as a result of that poisoning,

980
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: we have seen conduct that is simply unimaginable. Not so

981
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: long ago, but now is every day masked men and

982
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: we're told that they must wear those masks to be

983
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: saved from who the mobster, the a n Arco terrorists, no,

984
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: from the soccer mom filming their misconduct, and so all

985
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: of these attacks on liberty, all of it, all of

986
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: it is that is happening. I think what Maggot needs

987
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: to understand is that as their poll numbers fall, there

988
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: is there's no place for any of us to back up.

989
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: If you're a billionaire, life is going to look very

990
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: different in five to eight years for you. A lot

991
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: of these companies are going to be broken up. You'll

992
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: be richer than King Midas himself. But the days of

993
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: empire building, the outsized influence, sitting at court at an inauguration,

994
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: all over and things have to be set to rebalance, rebalance,

995
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: and the job at government is to facilitate the happiness

996
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: of the people, to create prosperity, opportunity, security. And what

997
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: we see is a recklessness of judgment by corrupt political class,

998
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: the fruits of terrible decisions, the consequence come due. Because

999
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: we have Donald Trump as president, we can't ever have

1000
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: this again. So you want to see Democrats. We'll start

1001
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: talking about this in the weeks ahead, about that. What

1002
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: must be done, What are the hearings that must be held,

1003
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: Who are the people that must be held accountable at

1004
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: those hearings. We have to have a plan to find

1005
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: out about everything that's gone on in the name of

1006
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: the American people by MAGA, because it's been done in

1007
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: our name, though at their whim, because it's been done

1008
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: in our name. When we put a check on this,

1009
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: we get to find out everything. That's the way it works.

1010
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: That's a good place to end it. I think I

1011
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: think so too.

1012
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: While you're on that process of finding shit out, let

1013
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: me if you find out how Cash Mattel is able

1014
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: to hire Dana White to train FBI agents this morning,

1015
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: let me know.

1016
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: I just have to say one last thing about that guy.

1017
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: I knew it. I knew it.

1018
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: That's what I did it.

1019
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: Sorry, you have a lead FBI counterterror teams running around

1020
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: giving giving protection to cash. Betel's untalented quote country country

1021
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: music star singer who goes and performs at these trump

1022
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: Fest trump Fest things, is that this is this is

1023
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: a political advice for everyone running for president. You know,

1024
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: it's free advice, so take it. Take it for what

1025
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: it's worth. But I think the mood of a lot

1026
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: of people in the Democratic Party, the great common Denominator

1027
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: is I think in line with what I'm going to say,

1028
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: which is I think people are looking for a candidate

1029
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: that's going to say that. When I become president and

1030
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: I raise my hand and I take that oath of office,

1031
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: before I start giving the inaugural address, there's a there's

1032
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: a pause that goes on for about five minutes because

1033
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: they have to do the song. They hail to the

1034
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: treat Chief, and they do something ruffles and flourishes. There's

1035
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: a twenty one gun salute, and I'm gonna have time

1036
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: to sign at least ten executive orders. I'm gonna tell

1037
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: you the first one I'm gonna sign, right I'm gonna

1038
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: sign ten before I say a word, right, but the

1039
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: very first one, I'm gonna tell you right now what

1040
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. I'm a fire cash betel right, and

1041
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: his office is gonna be shealed, yeah, right before they

1042
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: even get to the song, even before they're done with

1043
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: the ruffles and flourishes. He'll be done that fast, right,

1044
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's what the people are gonna want. That's

1045
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: what Democrats are gonna wanna want to hear. You know,

1046
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: you're you're.

1047
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: You're just running for president right now.

1048
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean I've seen it about four hundred times in

1049
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: this where it's like we need someone with the kind

1050
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: of impunity that Steve speaks and acts with to be

1051
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: the next president. And if you're telling me within the

1052
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: span of taking the order and the end of ruffles and.

1053
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: That would be it. God, yes, God, God gone gone.

1054
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: And he better, he better, and he better be wheels

1055
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: down on that plane because of that plane's in the air.

1056
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: It's turning back around to Andrews. He can take people's express,

1057
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: the Trump shuttle home, right, take to take the uber

1058
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: at the gate. Right. The Secret Service is gone, It's gone.

1059
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 3: It's be brutal I hope so, I fucking hope so,

1060
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: because that's the kind of shottenfreud, you know. And a

1061
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: lot of people out there don't believe in this. But listen,

1062
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: when they go low, we go much lower. I think

1063
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: that that's pointed. That's the compromise, right, that's what the compromise.

1064
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: Right. That that my wing, which is substantial inside the coalition,

1065
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: is saying to a lot of the progressives is will

1066
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: be for a lot of stuff we disagree with, but

1067
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: we got to do this like this is not negotiable.

1068
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 2: And part of that coalition like letting them go right

1069
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: to live to fight another day. Yeah. Right, there's no

1070
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: Ford moment accountability, I'll tell you right now, right where

1071
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: we're talking about your crimes. No, there's some people assume

1072
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: tremendous power and went on a crime spree, right, and

1073
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: the crime speed spree continues no matter how much makeup

1074
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: they put on every day. It's the same people. It's

1075
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: the same buddy.

1076
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Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with you. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Glad we figured out the audio only five to seven

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Speaker 3: minutes in My apologies again, but always great to be

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Speaker 3: on with you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: As always you and stay away from mar Alago face. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: stay away from that out there. If you're a kid watching,

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Speaker 2: it's no good now.

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Speaker 3: There's no coming back from what Christy Nome looks like. Now,

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Speaker 3: no not good.

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Speaker 2: I stay away. We'll talk about that and more next week.

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Speaker 2: See you later. You got it, you gotta see Thanks

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Speaker 2: Bo