Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: this episode started a little bit off. Okay, how can
Speaker 1: I pun this a little better? This episode started with
Speaker 1: the um, I walked into a big fart in the room,
Speaker 1: and it smells like a big fart right now. And
Speaker 1: apparently Mark has a really good David space, so let's
Speaker 1: hear it. Well, we were just talking and he came up.
Speaker 1: When I first got to l A in the late nineties,
Speaker 1: I needed to do things to get my SAG cards,
Speaker 1: so I grabbed at extra job. So I was a
Speaker 1: featured extra on an episode who just shoot me? Okay,
Speaker 1: you can't go look for because I was completely edited
Speaker 1: out of the whole episode. But that's a whole other story.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So I was. It's the episode with French
Speaker 1: Stewart and um, the woman Maya on the show is
Speaker 1: dating French Stewart, and French Stewart's a puppeteer and all
Speaker 1: of the problems he has with the relationship he takes
Speaker 1: out in his puppets. It's a funny promise, Know everything's
Speaker 1: Fine's his puppets are like you like that all the time,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's funny. Anyway, I was the puppeteer
Speaker 1: stage manager, and I had to go and rip mya
Speaker 1: down from the set of this puppeteer set when she
Speaker 1: was attacking and strangling one of the puppets at the
Speaker 1: culmination of the episode. Anyway, so I'm on the set
Speaker 1: hanging out all week, having a good time and just
Speaker 1: gorging on free craft services. You know, it's all this
Speaker 1: delicious free food, just going nuts and not really bad gas.
Speaker 1: It was totally terrible. So standing off to the side,
Speaker 1: and there was a guy there that seemed to know
Speaker 1: Spade really well, David Spade, and he was wearing he
Speaker 1: was total Hollywood slick back hair, sunglasses, indoors, black longsleeve shirt,
Speaker 1: black pants, total Hollywood age. And he had gotten there
Speaker 1: and I had seen him because hugged Spade everything. So
Speaker 1: he's sitting in a folding chair next to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm standing next to him, so he is right at
Speaker 1: butt level. So I've dropped a bomb, like I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine. It was not loud, but yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like like I tears in my eyes and my hair
Speaker 1: was straightening, like it was really bad. And David Spade's
Speaker 1: coming over to this guy because they just finished a scene.
Speaker 1: So this guy jumps up out of his chair, turns
Speaker 1: Spade around and walks him in the other direction. And
Speaker 1: I thought, that is some quality representation right there. They
Speaker 1: just totally dodged the fog. What a good agent did
Speaker 1: they know? I mean, was there anyone else around that
Speaker 1: you could have? Possibly? Because I'm a I'll blame it
Speaker 1: on everyone else around me. I think he probably set
Speaker 1: stay away from that guy. He really something died in him.
Speaker 1: Have you told David the story? Since I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: me I've mentioned it when he's been in. I've mentioned
Speaker 1: it to Ryan and as the producers, but we never
Speaker 1: really get around to it. But I'd like to tell
Speaker 1: him that story someday. But then at the end of
Speaker 1: the week, the producer Steve Levitan, who then created Modern Family,
Speaker 1: he came to watch the run through and he said,
Speaker 1: I don't like when that guy goes up to and
Speaker 1: pulls her off the stage, which was me. And that
Speaker 1: was it, and then I was edited out. There's no
Speaker 1: sign of me in the episode. I'm sorry, I got
Speaker 1: my side card, but I do have a question. Why
Speaker 1: were you Were you wanting to be an actor? Yes,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be on television. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a host, and I couldn't figure out any kind of
Speaker 1: path to do that, so I was just auditioning for
Speaker 1: anything that would have me. Um. But yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: my SADE cards so I could start being on TV
Speaker 1: in whatever capacity ended up being on TV. And my friend,
Speaker 1: who already had lived here prior that we were living with,
Speaker 1: he sent me and my roommates up with these extra
Speaker 1: gigs so we could get our side cards, because that's
Speaker 1: a big hurdle when you get to l A is
Speaker 1: getting that union card. So then, yeah, I know for sure,
Speaker 1: how did you I'm sorry today's guest is but how
Speaker 1: um what was the switch to be behind camera then?
Speaker 1: Because obviously that's a longer story, but I'll just tell
Speaker 1: you it's it was just, um, you know, failure reads
Speaker 1: as the mother of necessity. So I did three years
Speaker 1: of just going out for everything I could go out for,
Speaker 1: and I booked a ton of stuff right away. I
Speaker 1: got too Independent Phil Homes, I got a TV show,
Speaker 1: I got the just Shooting Me thing, I got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff right away, a commercial for Cores,
Speaker 1: and then every one of those things kind of fell
Speaker 1: apart and then that was it. I never booked another
Speaker 1: thing in three years. And that's when I decided to
Speaker 1: start working at Disneyland because I had an opportunity and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll take whatever I can get down
Speaker 1: because I'm almost out of money. I started working there
Speaker 1: and got it check and then after three years at Disneyland,
Speaker 1: I got back into radio. And that's how I had
Speaker 1: it on this path. But when I was trying to
Speaker 1: get a job, I set out my my old radio
Speaker 1: demo to every station in l A. And Kiss FM
Speaker 1: called and said, we do not want you on the radio,
Speaker 1: but you seem to have experience, so can you come
Speaker 1: and be a producer and behind the scenes. And I said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever you need. I'm married, now I need something. So
Speaker 1: that's how this all came about. And now you work
Speaker 1: for Ryan Seacrest and yeah, like that's a pretty good gig,
Speaker 1: the biggest radio personality in the world. It's worked out
Speaker 1: pretty well. I'm up two over eleven years with Ryan.
Speaker 1: It's great, that's amazing. That's so cool, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're very honored to have you. Mark. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: a seasoned season vets here, so you're hard earned time
Speaker 1: to be with us a little people, and this is
Speaker 1: a highlight of the week. I enjoy you guys a lot. Well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being you and sharing your story, and
Speaker 1: especially your fart story, because I feel like we all
Speaker 1: have that really embarrassing story. Um. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's time to share mind since Mark put himself out there. Great,
Speaker 1: you haven't shared it on here yet? No, Remember I
Speaker 1: said I would never share it. I mean I remember this.
Speaker 1: I remember trying to get you to do it. We
Speaker 1: were in studio in burbon I mean, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: lay my microphone down and let you go. Should I
Speaker 1: but like when people look at me differently, that you're
Speaker 1: human and you're just like us. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a just like us kind of thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: everyone has this experience. No, I don't just tell it.
Speaker 1: Easton's ready, Becky's ready, Riley's ready. Our wine down listeners
Speaker 1: are definitely ready. Okay, And I've never in my life
Speaker 1: shared this besides two a few friends. Um okay. So
Speaker 1: I was, oh my good, Okay, most embarrassing story here
Speaker 1: we go. I was twenty Oh gosh, how old was that?
Speaker 1: It was? Right before I booked One Tree Hill, um,
Speaker 1: and I was I had just moved into my boyfriend
Speaker 1: Jonathan Check's house and who's actually now a very good friend.
Speaker 1: His wife is, um, you know, our best friend. So
Speaker 1: I just moved into his house up in the beech
Speaker 1: Wood Canyon Hills and uh, it was, you know, a
Speaker 1: very small batch up pad. It was probably like a
Speaker 1: six square foot bachelor pad. And so I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta like girly this place up a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I start going online, um, looking for some shades,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, bed Beth and Beyond has
Speaker 1: these awesome shades. I'm kind of giving you guys a
Speaker 1: long story, by the way, just to set of it.
Speaker 1: So I go to bed. I was like, hey, John, like,
Speaker 1: I'm running out to the bed Beth and Beyond, Like
Speaker 1: I'll be back in a little bit, and mind you,
Speaker 1: let me just like set the scene. I'm wearing pretty
Speaker 1: much like a short nightgown. I mean it was like
Speaker 1: one of those little flower dresses from Forever twenty one,
Speaker 1: like really short, very thin, like nothing much to it.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm in my early twenties, So going to
Speaker 1: bed Beth and Beyond and I'm walking through the halls
Speaker 1: or the little aisles, and I can't find these blinds, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm just like look and look and looking. Well,
Speaker 1: then while I'm going through the aisles, I turn a
Speaker 1: corner and there's this really I didn't see it obviously,
Speaker 1: or I would have avoided it, but there was a
Speaker 1: very sharp um like something was sticking out in one
Speaker 1: of the aisles. So when I turned the corner kind
Speaker 1: of fast, I scraped and I even have a scar
Speaker 1: are on my left arm. I've got a scar right
Speaker 1: there where it started to bleed and so I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, like that hurts. So I go up to
Speaker 1: this guy who is helping someone else and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I two things I'm bleeding number one
Speaker 1: and number two like I really need to find these shades.
Speaker 1: And they're freaking out and the guys like I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: Like do you need you know, help or assistance. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I just need a band aid and
Speaker 1: I need to find these shades. Like I'm totally fine.
Speaker 1: So he's like, Okay, are you sure you sure you shure?
Speaker 1: I'm like yes, I'm totally fine. So we go into
Speaker 1: his office. I get a band aid to put it on,
Speaker 1: and I was like, these are the shades I'm looking for. Well,
Speaker 1: as we go down the aisles, I start looking down
Speaker 1: at my band aid and I'm like, huh, maybe, like
Speaker 1: I do need medical assistance because it was bleeding through
Speaker 1: my band aid and I was like, maybe I need stitches.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I start to just
Speaker 1: feel really really lightheaded, and I was like, um, actually, sir, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I need um, I need some help. I need um,
Speaker 1: I need some boom. I pass out. Okay. So I'm
Speaker 1: in the middle of bed Beth and beyond passed out. Okay.
Speaker 1: They're one there on Ventura in Studio City. In Studio City,
Speaker 1: like Ventura and uh almost a cold water. So I'm
Speaker 1: on the floor right, I wake up and I just
Speaker 1: start screaming. I've never passed out before like this. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I just passed up, Like
Speaker 1: I'm the middle of I'm so sorry, and I was
Speaker 1: like call my boyfriend so and they're like, man, man, man,
Speaker 1: just calmed down. The fire. The fire people are coming,
Speaker 1: like they'll be here any minute. Okay. So in walking
Speaker 1: now we're in Los Angeles right, So like the firemen
Speaker 1: there are like straight off of a calendar like calendar environment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all want to be actors and I'll probably volunteer fireman.
Speaker 1: So they walk in and I'm like, hi, I feel great,
Speaker 1: like you know, just like they're like, okay, man, we're
Speaker 1: gonna lift you up and we're gonna sit you in
Speaker 1: this chair. Well, when they lifted me up, I had
Speaker 1: myself when I passed, and I pointed to it and
Speaker 1: was like, I put myself and I just started screaming.
Speaker 1: And the look on these firefighters spaces. What I wouldn't
Speaker 1: give for one of those guys to like hear this
Speaker 1: story and and he remember it and he was one
Speaker 1: of the firemen that was there. I would do anything
Speaker 1: to track down one of those men to interview them.
Speaker 1: How fantastic is that story? Is fantastic? So humiliating, So
Speaker 1: I put myself when I passed passed out. I mean
Speaker 1: they might some might call it a near death experience
Speaker 1: because they say when you die, you poop. So apparently
Speaker 1: I died and came back to life. You died in
Speaker 1: the embarrassment sids. I think it was so embarrassing. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no one can top that. And that's why when she
Speaker 1: talked about once you fainted, uh a week or two
Speaker 1: ago when you're doing you're getting your lab tests. I
Speaker 1: mean I checked my butt to make sure the first
Speaker 1: thing she did, and I was like, my first question,
Speaker 1: I was like, did you poop? She's like no, I
Speaker 1: checked myself. Like That's exactly where our heads went immediately
Speaker 1: because it was so do I have to bring you
Speaker 1: a change your clothes? Yes? Or no? I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear skid mark on your underwear. But you're right, Mike,
Speaker 1: we need somebody a bed bath and beyond, employee, a firefighter,
Speaker 1: somebody who was there that day. You've got to reach
Speaker 1: out to us. I could have you on the show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. No, it's like any time when we
Speaker 1: were living there and we would go to that bed
Speaker 1: bath and beyond because I was the closest one to
Speaker 1: our house. I would like kind of look at the
Speaker 1: employees to be like, you recognize her. I'm surprised. Do
Speaker 1: you ever went anywhere near that place? Have you? Have
Speaker 1: you worked here for? Um? Okay, before we get the
Speaker 1: lady gang on, um are amazing producer, Becky, just please,
Speaker 1: just I need you to share your story. Um. So
Speaker 1: I've been dating my boy home for like five months now,
Speaker 1: and I'm like visiting him in Michigan and I'm just
Speaker 1: like I told her, I warned him. I was like,
Speaker 1: I am sorry, my stomach heard so bad, like it's
Speaker 1: been a few days already, and like I can't hold
Speaker 1: it anymore. And he was like, it's okay. I was like,
Speaker 1: plug your ears. It was so loud. Why don't you
Speaker 1: go in the other room. He lives in the studios.
Speaker 1: I had nowhere to run or high, so I said
Speaker 1: plug your ears and he heard it still. He's like,
Speaker 1: that was so loud that But at the same time,
Speaker 1: how much closer do you guys feel to one another
Speaker 1: that you got that out? And I'm literally like, I'm
Speaker 1: never farting in front of you till the day I die.
Speaker 1: I mean true story, because you can tell the first
Speaker 1: time a hotel room. We're in a hotel room. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing as you, Becky, right,
Speaker 1: like what I'm gonna go walk in the halls and
Speaker 1: Jane was doing something she's been ever anyway, and I
Speaker 1: can't get her look. I was like, what is that.
Speaker 1: She's like, you didn't hear anything. And then final I
Speaker 1: was like you're funny. She's like in the corner. I
Speaker 1: literally went to a corner and went to a corner
Speaker 1: like hit her face like a little kid, and was like,
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed. Usually when he stays with me
Speaker 1: and like go to the living room, I have what
Speaker 1: is your boyfriend there with you right now? What does
Speaker 1: he think? What is his name? To Mario? He felt so,
Speaker 1: he felt bad. He was like, I'm sorry for embarrassing you.
Speaker 1: Do you love her more? Okay? Hi, how are you guys?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I'm like just laughing at this story
Speaker 1: that she's telling you because it was so funny. But
Speaker 1: he's sweet. I mean, I can tell you it's a
Speaker 1: safe space, but I don't feel like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You got the girls tomorrow back me up. The girls
Speaker 1: make it a bigger deal than it is, right, But
Speaker 1: then why call it out though? Because every time I
Speaker 1: like do a little fun like he's like he gives
Speaker 1: me a look because it's it's like we've been married
Speaker 1: for going on six years, been together for like almost
Speaker 1: seven and you still do that and you kind of
Speaker 1: give me a look like you didn't hear that. You
Speaker 1: didn't hear that. I'm like you're my wife, Like I
Speaker 1: go into the bathroom after you after you take a dump,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, even girl, that's light, Like we
Speaker 1: all do it well, Dude, I completely agree with what
Speaker 1: you're saying. We just want to at least acknowledge that
Speaker 1: it was there for you. But it's not at all.
Speaker 1: And guess what, we don't. We don't give y'all for
Speaker 1: it because we're nice, and then y'all will be like,
Speaker 1: why do you have to ft? Well, because I know
Speaker 1: no time out. We're a little bit more. I feel
Speaker 1: like we're more respectful with it, like knowing that we're
Speaker 1: not just gonna fart like you will. Like what's the
Speaker 1: thing called where the sheets and stuff? Dutch ovans? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's not cool, Like you know, I made sure
Speaker 1: I know it's going to be a stinky one, like
Speaker 1: I go to a different room. But like men are
Speaker 1: just like let it hang. Yeah, I mean that's exactly
Speaker 1: it's And it's such a great relief when you're in
Speaker 1: a new relationship, especially you guys are only five months
Speaker 1: and as soon as both you do it, it's just
Speaker 1: like we're good now, Like it's another level. So all right, Well,
Speaker 1: so everyone listening. Just let it fly fly to Mario Becky.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, thanks for sharing. Okay, Um, Lady Gang
Speaker 1: is in the waiting room. Let's take a break and
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Speaker 1: Secure components dot com. Hi, what's up ladies? Hello? Hi?
Speaker 1: Haven't seen you ladies in years? For years? Maybe hasn't
Speaker 1: been just had your daughter so five? Because you were
Speaker 1: talking about getting mommy shamed, like at the grocery store
Speaker 1: for something? Yeah, for buying food? Yes, yes, how dare you?
Speaker 1: How dare I buy? Can dare you feed your baby?
Speaker 1: If I should be hand making that? Yes? Congratulations on
Speaker 1: the book, best, thank you, but seriously, congratulations to y'all because,
Speaker 1: I mean, since I've seen you guys, you guys have exploded.
Speaker 1: I was. I love y'all show on e UM. I mean,
Speaker 1: everything that you have going on. I mean, it's it's insane.
Speaker 1: It's amazing though, but you guys deserve it. You guys
Speaker 1: are energetic, You're fun, You're you share things that you
Speaker 1: know are hard to share at times, and I I
Speaker 1: appreciate that a lot because you're showing the good and
Speaker 1: the bad and the the hard you know right back
Speaker 1: at you. You're doing the same. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: how it is. You know, you know it can be
Speaker 1: hard ups and the downs. You know, that's right. We're
Speaker 1: just we're all just kind of riding the wave, right,
Speaker 1: And I mean, from what you guys are doing, it's
Speaker 1: amazing that you guys, you know, with all your individual
Speaker 1: careers and accodes that the three of you have done.
Speaker 1: You know, how did you give us a backstory in
Speaker 1: our listeners? Kind of a backstory of how the Lady
Speaker 1: Gang formed? All right? I usually take this one. I'll
Speaker 1: do it. Um. So, Keltie and myself have previous lives
Speaker 1: as professional dancers. I was on broad Way. She was
Speaker 1: a rocket. Yeah, she still got that, got it. So
Speaker 1: this was stretch al right, okay, okay, so then this
Speaker 1: is exactly what you'll get when you listen to the
Speaker 1: Lady Gang. Oh my god, apologies. Uh So we knew
Speaker 1: each other a million lifetimes ago and then we both
Speaker 1: kind of made our way out to l A and
Speaker 1: would bump into each other at these like weird Hollywood
Speaker 1: events and look at each other and be like, remember
Speaker 1: when we were broke and dancing our hearts out for
Speaker 1: five dollars a week, and now we're here and this
Speaker 1: is weird. Um. So then we decided we were so
Speaker 1: sick of waiting for Hollywood to pick us. After every job,
Speaker 1: We're like, oh my gosh, are they going to choose us?
Speaker 1: So finally we had this lunch at Cafe one oh
Speaker 1: one in l A which closed, yes because the pandemic.
Speaker 1: It's devastating and um. Anyways, that was where we had
Speaker 1: this really sad lunch one day that Kelty brought up
Speaker 1: the idea of doing a podcast, and six years ago
Speaker 1: a podcast. Was like yeah, I was like what is this?
Speaker 1: I was like, you mean like Adam Carolla, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Like a Howard Stern, like yes, actually exactly.
Speaker 1: So I just followed her lead because Kelty normally whatever
Speaker 1: she touches turns to gold, and we knew we needed
Speaker 1: a third girl who wasn't in the business and who
Speaker 1: didn't care about the business and had a lot of
Speaker 1: street cred as a female entrepreneur and self made. And
Speaker 1: then that's when Kelty asked Jack, and the reason they
Speaker 1: know each other is because they share a mutual ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I love is that? Is that what they call it?
Speaker 1: An eskimo? Sister? Yeah, like my brother asked my sister.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but then so Jack, Well, I dated him
Speaker 1: after Jack, but then recently we found out that Jack
Speaker 1: went back and made out with him when she thought
Speaker 1: that we were still together, which so messed up. I
Speaker 1: thought that, like when I because I have this whole thing,
Speaker 1: that I will never go back to an X like
Speaker 1: I'm very proud about it. That once you know, the
Speaker 1: doors closed, the doors closed forever. And then I finally
Speaker 1: remembered one day that I did go back and hook
Speaker 1: up with this sex boyfriend, and I was almost positive
Speaker 1: that he cheated on Kelty with me, but we went
Speaker 1: back and figured out that he didn't work. Oh well,
Speaker 1: regardless look at you guys, now, look at us live
Speaker 1: another day the other day. So the bond is still there.
Speaker 1: And Kelty, you just renewed your vows, right, yes, did
Speaker 1: you guys renew yours? We did, which I feel like
Speaker 1: we need to redo him again. We're in a new
Speaker 1: trend of marriage. We're just like you know, we just
Speaker 1: keep reading everyone needs to renew after this this pandemic.
Speaker 1: If you made it out alive, then yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I know that Ceil and Heidi Klum didn't
Speaker 1: make it eventually. But remember how they used to have
Speaker 1: like a huge, huge vow renewal every single year, like
Speaker 1: because she loves to throw parties, so she's like, basically,
Speaker 1: how can I wear a fabuos dress? And I'm not
Speaker 1: like winning an Oscar, so like what is this for me?
Speaker 1: And she would throw this vow renewal. Yeah, Chris and
Speaker 1: I renewed our vows last year and it was we
Speaker 1: had been together ten years, seven years married, and we
Speaker 1: had like a couple of rough years as they as
Speaker 1: they happen, and had really not been focused on our
Speaker 1: relationship at all, and um, it was really sweet. I
Speaker 1: I being an outward facing introvert, I feel a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure to perform when I'm around people, as you
Speaker 1: can tell already on this podcast. Um, but in my
Speaker 1: real life, I'm actually like quite quiet. And so the
Speaker 1: whole like wedding situation of like saying your vows and
Speaker 1: having this moment in front of all these people, I
Speaker 1: felt like I was like performing in the school play
Speaker 1: for like my future in laws. So it was nice
Speaker 1: to just we went on a beach and like just
Speaker 1: it was just us and we just set our red
Speaker 1: or to each other, and um, it was like a
Speaker 1: great renewal. And I've only really wanted to run and
Speaker 1: hate him like five times since. So great down from.
Speaker 1: So we're down from, you know. And by the way,
Speaker 1: anyone that knows, like it's so normal to you know,
Speaker 1: be like this. I don't like you a lot of days,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I don't like myself, and it's it's okay
Speaker 1: to have those, especially gosh the last and everything. But
Speaker 1: in those years that you were having tough times, was
Speaker 1: it for you or you like I don't even want
Speaker 1: to be in this marriage anymore? Yeah, for sure. And
Speaker 1: I think that anyone that lies and says that never
Speaker 1: happens to them is like a big fat liar for me,
Speaker 1: Chris had my husband had his his boss had passed
Speaker 1: away really unexpectedly, and he's very tied to his work.
Speaker 1: He's a very loyal person and so he kind of
Speaker 1: lost himself for a whole year. He was like just
Speaker 1: floating around. And I'm very attracted to the like boss
Speaker 1: like man that is like taking care of and making
Speaker 1: important phone calls, and like he didn't have that. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of like, I mean, he's working, but
Speaker 1: he's floating around and he just didn't have that driver passion.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that I love about him.
Speaker 1: So I found him like a little bit on sexy,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, And at that time in
Speaker 1: my career, I was like the easiest I've ever been,
Speaker 1: And so it was like this perfect storm of things.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're I don't know how you feel
Speaker 1: about the Jenna, but like when you're the woman in
Speaker 1: a relationship that's acting like the man to like support
Speaker 1: the man, sometimes that can be kind of draining on
Speaker 1: like the sexiness of it all, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: When you're kind of in the control seat keeping it
Speaker 1: all together, I'm like, I don't want to keep it together.
Speaker 1: I want someone else to keep it together for me.
Speaker 1: You know. Very interesting. There is um Curb Your Enthusiasm
Speaker 1: episode exactly about this CULTI it's when Cheryl is only
Speaker 1: attracted to Larry when he's working on Seinfeld. So good.
Speaker 1: He's a big enthusiasm kind of dude, are you? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? I watched it. Every night when I go
Speaker 1: to sleep, I have to hear Larry David screaming at me.
Speaker 1: It really like lulls me to sleep, like a little lullaby.
Speaker 1: It's the best. And I just I was late to
Speaker 1: the game on season ten, so I just watched season
Speaker 1: ten like two weeks ago. Oh my god. It might
Speaker 1: be one of the best. And they're they're filming a
Speaker 1: new one, so you're gonna get me. It's so good.
Speaker 1: You It's interesting that that Kelsey was saying, it's because
Speaker 1: that's a lot of our relationship, right, is like the
Speaker 1: role reversal in certain things and trying to find that
Speaker 1: identity and stuff. And I mean, I know for for
Speaker 1: the guy that that takes them getting used to, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of falling into a different role than maybe society
Speaker 1: has for you, or that you even want for yourself.
Speaker 1: Especially at least for me personally, coming from the background
Speaker 1: that I have used to be in the one making
Speaker 1: money or being busy, and then now not do you
Speaker 1: find that yeah on sexually kelty, damn you it's even
Speaker 1: though you guys, I guess not make it about us.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I will say, my dad always
Speaker 1: says you can't have it all at the same time.
Speaker 1: So like we're in the era of of you where
Speaker 1: you're working on your career and you're the hottest thing
Speaker 1: and you have so many avenues going on. You can't
Speaker 1: also be having your career at this moment, Like it's
Speaker 1: got to be you can't have it all. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think to answer your question, though, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: find you on sexy. What I've find unsexy is when
Speaker 1: you know you'll go play video games or you know
Speaker 1: you don't you don't manage your time. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm working my asshole and You're like, there's so many
Speaker 1: things that can be done around the house around here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, help me pick up the slack. Like
Speaker 1: that's where I'm like, if there's any you know, like
Speaker 1: your laziness sometimes can make you unattractive. Well, it's the
Speaker 1: lack of the drive at the moment there you go
Speaker 1: like if you're you know, if you're working on something
Speaker 1: or you're passionate and like you're trying to make steps
Speaker 1: forward to something. My boyfriend loves video games too, but
Speaker 1: we have this thing where he can only well know,
Speaker 1: he's playing them right now. I was gonna say, you
Speaker 1: can only play them after I go to bed. Well,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious what I was going to ask you that, Jack,
Speaker 1: because you know, for us, I'm like, we've got to
Speaker 1: and he and I will say, Mike does a good
Speaker 1: balance where it's you know, hey, I'm going to take
Speaker 1: a few hours for myself. Now it's when the kids
Speaker 1: are napping or or we'll have you know, we kind
Speaker 1: of plan out our week. It's like, Okay, this night,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have intention all night. This night we're gonna
Speaker 1: play games. And then the next night he gets his
Speaker 1: he gets his own time, he gets to do whatever
Speaker 1: he wants, and if that's video games and that's how
Speaker 1: he spends it. And I'm like, you know, working or
Speaker 1: or doing something or you know, watching the bat But
Speaker 1: again that's a bachelor, I know. I'm like, but then
Speaker 1: I can't judge what he's doing in his time, and
Speaker 1: that's been I think the hardest thing for me is
Speaker 1: to not judge what he wants to do in his
Speaker 1: time because what I what I value in my time
Speaker 1: is so different. Yeah, we actually had my boyfriend and
Speaker 1: I had this exact same conversation about like the video
Speaker 1: games thing, and it's like the amount of hours that
Speaker 1: I waste watching trashy reality TV. It's like, that's just
Speaker 1: how we decompress, you know, women versus men. Men love
Speaker 1: playing Call of Duty or whatever the hell they're playing,
Speaker 1: and then women love watching ten hours have merried at
Speaker 1: first sight, And that's that's kind of my thing. Where
Speaker 1: there's this stigma around to make it about video games,
Speaker 1: but there's a stigma where it just comes across a
Speaker 1: childish right because you think that's a little kids thing,
Speaker 1: a little boy like you're a man now you're in
Speaker 1: your thirties or for whatever, grow up. But it's again,
Speaker 1: if I was just sitting there, It's funny because if
Speaker 1: I was just sitting there watching TV or watching a movie,
Speaker 1: Genna would probably have no feelings about it. But if
Speaker 1: I'm playing video games, you could be doing this. You
Speaker 1: could be doing that, You could be doing whatever just
Speaker 1: because it's that one thing. But it is shocking how
Speaker 1: many men play video games, Like pretty much every man
Speaker 1: loves video games, so it's it's funny to look at
Speaker 1: it in your own relationship, being like it's like for
Speaker 1: ten year olds, and then you look at any other
Speaker 1: guy and they're all playing it together. Also, I would
Speaker 1: much rather have my husband be playing video games than
Speaker 1: like scrolling Instagram men. I know men who scroll Instagram
Speaker 1: more than women, And I know this is like a
Speaker 1: weird double standard, but I don't understand. Women are picking
Speaker 1: out style inspiration, home decor makeup, skincare. We have a
Speaker 1: whole world to open up to us. But what are
Speaker 1: men scrolling and looking at on Instagram besides barstool sports?
Speaker 1: But and women? That is a very good point. That's
Speaker 1: a very good point, Like what would you rather be
Speaker 1: doing any time? Want not out like at the bar
Speaker 1: trying to hit on other girls? I mean, there are
Speaker 1: a lot worse things to do than be them playing
Speaker 1: video games. There's worse things, But as long as it's
Speaker 1: just that, then it's good. All of it helped me
Speaker 1: bury's body. If that happened, let me turn it back
Speaker 1: to y'all in the second So right now, and with
Speaker 1: the relationship and that being said, right with the three
Speaker 1: of you having your own kind of career paths and
Speaker 1: things that you do, and then having all these projects
Speaker 1: with the show, with the podcast, with the book that
Speaker 1: you know, act like a woman that I want to
Speaker 1: dive into. How do you guys kind of help manage
Speaker 1: each other's time, right, because it's a three you collaborating
Speaker 1: on these things. So is there any of that in
Speaker 1: y'all's relationship where it's it's like hey Jack, why don't
Speaker 1: you do this? Or Hey Kelty or hey backa like
Speaker 1: why aren't you working on this? Like come on, we
Speaker 1: got to do that, Kelty Kelty is the boss. And
Speaker 1: every Monday I wake up to an email from this
Speaker 1: lovely app we're using called a Sana and it says
Speaker 1: Kelty has assigned four tasks to you. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love this app? What is it? Because now great things? Becca,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wake up every day more. Sorry, Jenna has
Speaker 1: a sign to you? Well, yeah, I mean I've been
Speaker 1: listening to a lot of like grow your Business podcasts
Speaker 1: to be honest, and um, doing like a lot of
Speaker 1: listening to female panelists create cultivated vanity fair and stuff,
Speaker 1: and so these are some of the tips that I've
Speaker 1: found out. But yeah, there's this app called a Sauna
Speaker 1: and basically we have a couple employees for Lady Gang,
Speaker 1: and and when something needs to be done and we
Speaker 1: talked about something in meeting, we're like, let's add it
Speaker 1: to the asauna, so that like Jack, instead of me
Speaker 1: calling Jack every morning being like, hey, where's the graphics
Speaker 1: for the new merch, it's just on her thing And
Speaker 1: every morning I have it set up that it emails
Speaker 1: them at eight am with like what is still outstanding?
Speaker 1: And it has like never read those emails? Though? Is
Speaker 1: the problem? Just doesn't read her email? She's like, there's
Speaker 1: two kinds of people. There's me who like has zero
Speaker 1: new emails and her email, and there's Jack who's like
Speaker 1: thirty thousands. Like getting Jack on email is also very difficult.
Speaker 1: But you know, listen, it's been like it's a marriage
Speaker 1: of sorts to be honest, Like it's a trial and error.
Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing with us is
Speaker 1: that we don't give up on each other and are
Speaker 1: sort of brutally honest. In that same way, that you
Speaker 1: have to be with your partner, and sometimes it absolutely sucks.
Speaker 1: It sucks to hear it sucks to have to be
Speaker 1: the person to like have the conversation when that's needed. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's always for the greater good. And I think
Speaker 1: we all have We're all so determined and we have
Speaker 1: such a special thing that we've created that it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, are we going to let this thing be
Speaker 1: the thing that ruins us? It's like, after five years,
Speaker 1: you've invested all this time and energy and you made
Speaker 1: it mostly work. Like let's just keep going, you know.
Speaker 1: And we're really good at communicating with each other. We
Speaker 1: always have been. We've never had to have like a
Speaker 1: conversation where it's like, okay, you know, we need to
Speaker 1: talk about things, Like We've all just been very open
Speaker 1: about everything, and we all have our specific strengths, so
Speaker 1: we know when to stay in our own lane, and
Speaker 1: we know when it's like a Jack thing or Rebecca
Speaker 1: thing or a Keelty thing, and we don't really step
Speaker 1: on each other's toes unless Keelty is like trying to
Speaker 1: get me on a deadline or something like that. But
Speaker 1: she also knows how I work, Like I'm a creative
Speaker 1: I work in my own time when I'm gonna do things,
Speaker 1: and I will usually make a deadline, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it at the eleventh hour, so super relaxing. It's
Speaker 1: super relaxing for everyone. Was stressful at all for everyone
Speaker 1: involved in the company. When I'm like, Hey, what this is?
Speaker 1: Do we have to get it to the manufacturer for
Speaker 1: the clothing line. The whole thing has to be turned
Speaker 1: in by Friday morning. Are we good on that? Yes?
Speaker 1: And then on Thursday I'm like, hey, Jack, how's it going,
Speaker 1: And She's like, oh, yeah, I'm just starting to work
Speaker 1: on that. I'm like, but I always get it in.
Speaker 1: But Jack, I love it because that's exactly how I am.
Speaker 1: And look bottom of the ninth two outs, who do
Speaker 1: you want to bet? You want me or Jack? Because
Speaker 1: we're gonna get that done. We're going to deliver. Because
Speaker 1: when we wrote our book, Jane was the same way.
Speaker 1: She had like a six month calendar. Okay, this day
Speaker 1: you read this, on this day, you can write this.
Speaker 1: You're gonna write this. I was like, huh, you know,
Speaker 1: I tried doing it was exactly. I was like, we're creating.
Speaker 1: I was like the last two months. Mike, are you
Speaker 1: a Pisces? I am. Yes. That is the number one
Speaker 1: thing about Pisces, especially men, because it's a water sign.
Speaker 1: They are floating in outer space. Good luck ever, ever,
Speaker 1: ever getting him to meet a deadline? That was just
Speaker 1: really yes, because I don't know much. I haven't looked
Speaker 1: much into pisces. But that's okay. That what is your sign?
Speaker 1: I'm a sage, Okay, that's yeah. It's like it's a
Speaker 1: tough combo, but you have to you have to embrace
Speaker 1: that is yellow screwed. You're not screwed. As I had
Speaker 1: an old business partner who he was a Pisces, and
Speaker 1: he was so creative. He was probably the most talented
Speaker 1: person I've ever worked with. However, he could not need
Speaker 1: a deadline, and I just as soon as I embraced
Speaker 1: that and just knew that that was who he was,
Speaker 1: I was okay. It was just expectations and managing them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good luck. Well, I'm sure it's hard to raise children
Speaker 1: with someone who's floating in outer spicy space. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's yeah, that is very hard because sometime tail
Speaker 1: just disappear and I'm like, where did you go? Like
Speaker 1: I live on another planet or different reality. They're living
Speaker 1: in a different reality. Okay, it makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: That's why my therapists always called it Mike's world, Like, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're in Mike's bolove again, okay, um Becca, thank you
Speaker 1: for sharing the miscarriage, um miscarriages. UM. I know it's hard.
Speaker 1: We've had five. Um we understand it's you know, we've
Speaker 1: done IVF as well. And I just want to say
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your story because the more people
Speaker 1: talk about it, the less it hurts. And it's still
Speaker 1: gonna hurt, right, It's it's awful, it's terrible. Um. But
Speaker 1: just to know that you're not alone, that I'm not alone,
Speaker 1: that other people aren't alone. Um so, and I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you're going through that right now. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Where are you right now? The IBF process, so we
Speaker 1: froze embryos in the spring, and um then I got
Speaker 1: this job to shoot in Vancouver for six months. So
Speaker 1: we kind of felt like it was the perfect sign
Speaker 1: from the universe to just take arrest, take a beat
Speaker 1: because there's nothing we can be doing here. You know,
Speaker 1: our embryos are in l A. Are you in Vancouver? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So wh are we you are? Yes? Wait, yes, it's
Speaker 1: here too. He's going to be very excited. But they
Speaker 1: can play games together. Great, he's brought his system here
Speaker 1: to Vancouver. Do you golf? Oh my god, we'll connect.
Speaker 1: How long are you here? We're here for six weeks
Speaker 1: Ti March. Oh my gosh. Um, which part of Vancouver
Speaker 1: are you in? Like yell Town Downtown? Where are you guys?
Speaker 1: It's cute. There's where my micro blading girl is. If
Speaker 1: you need a dope micro bladed eyebrows. Okay, okay, that's
Speaker 1: all good. Have you seen me? I beautiful? I actually
Speaker 1: just got my done be lore. I would take you
Speaker 1: up on that, but no, okay, let's get numbers after this.
Speaker 1: But okay, so you're going to hold off on that.
Speaker 1: Have you this is your first round of IVF or yes?
Speaker 1: So we did. Yeah, we did one round of retrieval
Speaker 1: and then we got all of our embryos that are frozen.
Speaker 1: I just paid for storage yesterday, Thank you technology child.
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? It's yeah? So I did that one
Speaker 1: round and then we, like I said, it was sort
Speaker 1: of um, I think meant to be where our embryos
Speaker 1: are down in San Diego. And we're in Canada. The
Speaker 1: border's clothes. There's no going back and forth, and there
Speaker 1: was no there was no doing a transfer before coming
Speaker 1: here because I would have been showing too much for
Speaker 1: this job that I'm doing, because it's like a longer,
Speaker 1: it's a series, but it's thank you. But it's so
Speaker 1: crazy that you think you're just going to spontaneously just
Speaker 1: get pregnant and have a baby, and then you're like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, I'm literally scheduling it like it's a dentist appointment. Now.
Speaker 1: It's just so nuts. It's I'm so happy that that
Speaker 1: is what's available to us. And I think that the
Speaker 1: reason I came out with and I was so open
Speaker 1: about the experience was because I I am quite angry
Speaker 1: with the medical institution in general and how there's no
Speaker 1: conversations very rarely with women in their late twenties and
Speaker 1: early thirties to consider taking a simple blood test to
Speaker 1: see what their hormones are looking like and what their
Speaker 1: egg supply looks like. So I was kind of piste
Speaker 1: off that we've all been going to see an O, B, G,
Speaker 1: I N since we've gotten our periods and there's very
Speaker 1: rarely intervention when it comes to fertility. So since then,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to report that so many women have reached
Speaker 1: out and have either frozen their eggs or frozen embryos,
Speaker 1: or even just taken a simple blood test that they've
Speaker 1: had to ask for at their guy no. So um,
Speaker 1: it's become like this weird mission that I never thought
Speaker 1: I would have, But it feels like the most gratifying
Speaker 1: thing we've done like thus far in the Lady Gang. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a great point because it's like, until you
Speaker 1: are actually trying to have a child, you don't realize
Speaker 1: how hard it is, right because it's a miracle that
Speaker 1: happens hundreds of times every single day, But until you
Speaker 1: really want it and realize how difficult it can be
Speaker 1: for a lot of people who truly want a kid,
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievably you know, difficult at times. And on
Speaker 1: the iv F journey, I'm curious Becca if you guys
Speaker 1: aren't there yet. But when you you know, basically create
Speaker 1: the embryos, you have your eggs frozen when you create
Speaker 1: the embryos, the one part of that process that just
Speaker 1: me personally, in my own kind of belief system, I
Speaker 1: had a hard time with was when they would say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can either basically take a singular sperm and inject
Speaker 1: it into the embryo, into the egg, or you kind
Speaker 1: of take a you know, millions of sperm and throw
Speaker 1: them in like a basically a peatree dish and let
Speaker 1: them let nature take its course. And I know for
Speaker 1: some people you have to inject the sperm directly into
Speaker 1: the egg to make it work. But for me, just
Speaker 1: when we were going through it, I had a hard
Speaker 1: time because that's the only part of it that felt
Speaker 1: like you were playing God, right, because I'm like, let
Speaker 1: the best spurn win, Like whatever sperm is supposed to win,
Speaker 1: that God is intending for you to have that child.
Speaker 1: Let that happen. Again, not everyone is able to have that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to inject it. But that's just the
Speaker 1: one thing I know for me apportionally that came up
Speaker 1: that had a hard time with. Yeah, it's I get that,
Speaker 1: because the whole thing is just so it is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the reason I had to do it in
Speaker 1: general was because my egg quality so um that and
Speaker 1: as you get older, that's just the reality of it.
Speaker 1: So that kind of feels that felt crazy too, because
Speaker 1: you're selecting the best eggs and then you can actually
Speaker 1: find out the sex and then choose that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we said because it did feel too much like
Speaker 1: playing god. We were like, we are only going to
Speaker 1: do up to the point in which we get a successful,
Speaker 1: healthy embryo made, but we're not going to select the gender.
Speaker 1: We're simply going to say whatever looks the strongest or healthiest.
Speaker 1: But it is really insane, it's so crazy, the whole process. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you though, because I know it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough, but it sounds like you have
Speaker 1: an awesome husband that is very supportive. And it was
Speaker 1: just with those shots, Oh yeah, I made Mike doom.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not, Yeah, she made She made
Speaker 1: me take a shot in my ass without anything in it,
Speaker 1: a progester and she's just like, no, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it to me, I'm gonna do it to you. Rember.
Speaker 1: You gotta know what except for you can't. That's what
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. Even though the needles were bigger, the
Speaker 1: butt shots were way better than the stomach. Oh really,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even sit with the progester own shots. It
Speaker 1: was like a big ball. I hate the progester own shots. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you guys, I okay, I just I mean, you have
Speaker 1: a million things going on, so can we just tell
Speaker 1: everyone where we can get everything? And the book and
Speaker 1: the book and the clothes and the podcast tell me
Speaker 1: all um. So we're at the Lady Gag on Instagram.
Speaker 1: That's the easiest. The podcast comes out every Tuesday and
Speaker 1: Thursday wherever you get your podcast, and the book is
Speaker 1: available anywhere you get books. Target dot com, Amazon dot com.
Speaker 1: You're a local indie bookseller, um, act like a lady.
Speaker 1: It's our New York Times bestseller. So we we came
Speaker 1: out like four weeks before ours, and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's hope if they can do it. Maybe yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're amazing and incredible, but you're not Michelle Obama. And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, there's like, you know, there's space
Speaker 1: for just these fandoms. You're a part of so many
Speaker 1: different fandoms, so it's amazing for you know. I hear
Speaker 1: you on that because I was like, there's I was
Speaker 1: like Mike because he was like, that's my goal, and
Speaker 1: I was like, honey, shot, I was shooting for the
Speaker 1: start like, you know, but I'm so happy for you guys.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. Um like a few days great,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Thanks guys so much. I appreciate you ladies,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I just love those girls so much,
Speaker 1: you know, going into it, I even asked you, I
Speaker 1: was like, have we not interviewed them yet? Because I
Speaker 1: just hear so much about him and I mean they
Speaker 1: were like the first podcast people ever. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were. They're definitely some of the O G s.
Speaker 1: But I just I have seen so much of them,
Speaker 1: heard so much of them. It was great to put
Speaker 1: you know, voices and faces and personalities altogether. But what
Speaker 1: a great group of women and you know, just awesome,
Speaker 1: awesome people. No, she's got a wiggly tooth. Oh do
Speaker 1: you mean? No? This is good? It's gonna cry. It's
Speaker 1: her first? Is your first tooth? Oh? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: keep it? Sorry? Genuinely makes me sad. It's her first.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm crying too. Our daughter is
Speaker 1: a wiggly tooth and I'm crying how exciting? How wiggly
Speaker 1: is that? I'm not pulling it out because like it
Speaker 1: gives me PTSD from my childhood. My dad he joke
Speaker 1: put a string around my tooth and opened the door.
Speaker 1: Let you close the door, close the door. How are
Speaker 1: we going to do it? Oh my god, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get a string the other side. I'll tie to a
Speaker 1: football the football. What did you do? Mark? We let
Speaker 1: it take its course. It just came out. We didn't
Speaker 1: do I did the fancy door knob football techniques. How
Speaker 1: much does the tooth Fairy cost? I think inflation? Man.
Speaker 1: Kids nowadays are asking for some for dollars for the
Speaker 1: tooth fairy, this tooth fairy and given dollars. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think Jolie really knows the dollars anyways. Well, give
Speaker 1: her a hershey kiss. No, we'll get her something like
Speaker 1: a little unicorn toy or something. No, you can't do
Speaker 1: a little toy. It's got to be consistent. So we'll
Speaker 1: do like a quarter a quarter? Yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: mean the way the tooth fairy has to do something consistent.
Speaker 1: It can't be like every time you get this, there's
Speaker 1: an xbox under my pro Well, what did you do? Mark?
Speaker 1: We did five dollars and Reese's peanut butter cup, which
Speaker 1: is kind of silly. Because I just encourages more tooth loss.
Speaker 1: But it was consistent and it was competitive because you've
Speaker 1: got to keep that in mind too, because if their
Speaker 1: friends are making more money than she has per tooth
Speaker 1: she's that's gonna bother her and make her question the
Speaker 1: tooth fairies motivations. Well, they can write a letter to
Speaker 1: the tooth fairy after for a raise. A tooth fairy,
Speaker 1: I'm really using a lot of teeth and making you work,
Speaker 1: so I need a raise in my reward. You know what, guys,
Speaker 1: I gotta I am a little emotional, so I think
Speaker 1: I gotta end up. I think I need to go
Speaker 1: give myself a good cry that I got a five
Speaker 1: year old he and by the way, I'm turning Canadian
Speaker 1: up here. Hey, between your Michigan and the Canadian influence,
Speaker 1: you're really getting it all right, y'all our beauty have
Speaker 1: a good one later