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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are

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Speaker 2: with me today. We're gonna talk about Jaguars preparing this

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Speaker 2: week's take on the Vikings here at Everbanks Stadium. But first,

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline came and went yesterday, so we will

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Speaker 2: start off with big thing number one, which is deadline day. Originally,

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Speaker 2: many people considering that the Jaguars were going to be

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Speaker 2: sellers but actually buyers as they're bringing in quarterback CJ.

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Speaker 1: Beth or Brian is to.

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Speaker 2: Someone that's familiar with this program, but adding to the

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Speaker 2: quarterback room probably wasn't something we thought was going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well in indication obviously that the shoulder that has been

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Speaker 3: bothering Trevor Lawrence said Sunday the hit that he took

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Speaker 3: in the game in Philadelphia might be an issue. John,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you'd go and bring c. J. Bethard

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Speaker 3: back into your quarterback room. I mean, because they've got

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Speaker 3: to sign him from the practice squad to the active

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Speaker 3: roster for three games. You wouldn't make that move if

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Speaker 3: you didn't think there wasn't a chance that you might

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Speaker 3: need him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're doing this, cjson makes sense. He

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Speaker 4: knows the playbook, he brang him in. It certainly makes

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence a storyline the rest of the week. I'm

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Speaker 4: not particularly surprised that they didn't make any other moves.

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Speaker 5: They'd already made moves.

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Speaker 4: They'd already traded Cam Robinson, ro Robinson Harris, which were

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Speaker 4: the two ones that made the most sense. You know,

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Speaker 4: if we get a chance to see Mac Jones, which

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Speaker 4: it might, that storyline for the rest of the week,

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Speaker 4: it would be an interesting week around here.

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Speaker 3: Well, you remember last year, Kay, that the litany of injuries, right,

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Speaker 3: it was the ankle, the knee, he had, the concussion,

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Speaker 3: and the shoulder. I mean, Trevor Lawrence didn't practice, tried

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Speaker 3: to play in most of those games. I think the

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Speaker 3: only game he didn't play was the game after the

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Speaker 3: Buccaneers game, the Panthers game. But he had a laundry

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Speaker 3: list of injuries, John and tried to make a goal

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Speaker 5: Well he can play, he'll play.

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Speaker 4: I also think it, I guess calls into discussion how

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Speaker 4: much he was sore, how much he was bothered.

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Speaker 5: Last week.

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Speaker 4: He was the last guy that came out of a

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Speaker 4: tunnel and in the second in the second half on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: you do wonder what kind of pain he was in,

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Speaker 4: what he was playing through on Sunday, knowing Trevor will never.

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Speaker 1: Know that and he did play through.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point to mention whatever injury probably the

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Speaker 2: first half. We saw him play better in the second half,

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Speaker 2: And actually Trevor talked postgame about any injuries he was

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Speaker 6: Pall will beat up on Sun of the year, but

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Speaker 6: you know, relatively all right, So we'll kind of assess

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Speaker 6: obviously tomorrow morning, some some sore no sets in and

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Speaker 7: What we're dealing with.

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Speaker 6: But you know, so able to finish the game and

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Speaker 6: feel okay, And I know there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 6: dealing with stuff and we just gotta keep pushing through

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Speaker 6: it that time of the year, in the middle of

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Speaker 6: the season, and it's stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's Trevor Lawren's post game against the Eagles. What's something

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Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on, see what he battles through

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Speaker 2: this week. Big thing Number two gonna be strength to weakness.

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Speaker 2: Other injuries in that game to the offensive line. Went

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Speaker 2: into the week thinking that was probably a strength of

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Speaker 2: some of the injuries suffered against the Eagles now one

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Speaker 2: of the areas of need. Maybe Anton Harrison talked about

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Speaker 2: some of the losses.

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Speaker 8: All we stayed together. Uh from beginning, we all together,

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Speaker 8: We all got each other back. We trusting everybody. So

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Speaker 8: that's why when guys go down, we trusting the guys

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Speaker 8: that's coming up and go and play. So just things

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Speaker 8: like that helps a lot and makes things easier. But

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Speaker 8: we just all go out there and just play a

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Speaker 8: hundred percent every every try to go every play, every

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Speaker 2: John Anton Harrison talking about himself, he had a knee injury,

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Speaker 2: came back into the game brand and Sheriff's been playing

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Speaker 2: through injury as well. The offensive line, Uh, they've been

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Speaker 4: If it's funny and this league, uh, depth is depth

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Speaker 4: until it's not an and it I I think if

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Speaker 4: got to learn to play together. So your quarterbacks out,

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Speaker 5: Boy, what a difference three weeks make.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna test the offensive line, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: what to expect because we're still gonna be looking at

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Speaker 4: his or Cleveland on the injury report this week, I

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Speaker 4: would think Brandon Sheriff plays Brian, but it's that time

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Speaker 7: Well, I hope Anton plays.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy who was battling a

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Speaker 3: struggling to move. He did finish, just like he played

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Speaker 3: all last year with the shoulder injury. And talking about

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Speaker 7: So they have a lot of issues.

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Speaker 3: And they face a Vikings front that has twenty seven sacks.

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Speaker 7: Of different places.

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Speaker 3: The focus is gonna be on getting you know, Blake

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Speaker 3: they're perilously.

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Speaker 2: Then all right, our final big thing is going to

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Speaker 2: be so close yet so far with these losses obviously

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Speaker 2: very frustrating, but the Jaguars seemingly are right there, having

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Speaker 2: a chance late in these games. Don Peterson talked about

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Speaker 2: that frustration of being close yet far away.

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Speaker 9: Just never know when those plays are gonna come, and

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Speaker 9: you know those moments are gonna come in the game,

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Speaker 9: and so your awareness as a coach, your awareness is

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Speaker 9: a player. You know, we've got to be on the

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Speaker 9: same page, we've got to communicate all those things. But

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Speaker 9: it does encourage you that you can play with these

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Speaker 9: guys and quite frankly, you eliminate a few mistakes. We

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Speaker 9: don't give them thirteen points off the turnovers, and the

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Speaker 9: week before we don't give them fourteen points. It's off

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Speaker 9: at turnovers. Things could be different.

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Speaker 1: Brand I know that was.

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Speaker 2: Your question to Doug and kind of got a loaded

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Speaker 2: they're so close.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's why I said at the end of Monday show,

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Speaker 3: I think this is the breakthrough week coming here the

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Speaker 3: jaguarz aard at home. It's salute the service they've been

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Speaker 3: close to the last two weeks against two really good teams,

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Speaker 3: the Packers and the Eagles. Now injuries notwithstanding, and we've

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Speaker 3: got a quarterback that we've got to talk about as well.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like, down twenty two to nothing, and

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Speaker 3: then they got a play that went their way and

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Speaker 3: they battled back and Devon Hamilton made that key third

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Speaker 3: and he had a shot. I felt like this was

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Speaker 3: a team that was close, and I got the sense

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Speaker 3: Doug did too.

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Speaker 4: I hope they are. It's a funny team over the

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Speaker 4: last three years. They tried to learn how to win

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Speaker 4: to win.

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Speaker 5: And we're a.

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Speaker 4: Scrappy, gutty, you know, end of the game team for

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Speaker 4: about a season's worth of games and now they're not.

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Speaker 5: So are they close?

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Speaker 4: Yes, they're close, but they've also been close five times

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Speaker 4: this year and in every game. So what's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the thing that gets them over the top? Is is

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Speaker 4: it a break without the starting quarterback? You hope they

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Speaker 4: have c You hope they had that kind of resiliency

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Speaker 4: and I d I I don't want to even pessimistic,

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Speaker 4: but five losses in the last two minutes.

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Speaker 5: Uh, that's sort of their identity right now. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know how you break that.

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Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here on Jackzam. Coming up

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Speaker 2: after the break, we'll go over a little this or that.

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Speaker 2: We look at some potential changes coming.

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Speaker 1: Up this week.

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Speaker 1: This school that, this school, welcome back into Jagvam.

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Speaker 2: Some injuries suffered for this Jaguars team against the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: so some more changes.

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Speaker 1: We also saw some changes due to the injuries the week.

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Speaker 2: Before that, So let's talk a little this or that.

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Speaker 2: I looked at some of the snapcounts I talked yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I thought Treylon Walker should have been playing a bit more.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see him on the field. But

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Speaker 2: also some of the numbers that stuck out to me

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: If either of you were surprised by either of those

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Speaker 4: Well, surprised by Uh. Strange, But again, this offense plays

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Speaker 5: They went with a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of of of their normal situations and as a result,

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Speaker 4: Brenton played nine snaps.

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Speaker 4: I don't think from based on what Doug said Monday.

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Speaker 4: And all of a sudden you look up and realize

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Speaker 4: you've been in this personnel package that you thought thought

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Speaker 4: and you didn't get Brenton strange in that's sort of

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Speaker 4: how this staff goes about it. They go about it

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Speaker 4: based on what are our best looks, not necessarily how

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Speaker 4: to happen on organically, and I think that's what happened

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Speaker 3: If people are wondering why we're talking about the backup

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Speaker 3: they have followed the storyline.

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Speaker 7: Brenton Strange has become a really key player. He finishes blocks.

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Speaker 3: He's not just a guy who can catch the ball.

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Speaker 7: He's a tempo setter for you.

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Speaker 3: Really, he's a really good football player and the kind

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, twelve snaps or nine snaps just not enough

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've sort of stuck to this.

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Speaker 5: But look, at some.

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Speaker 4: Point, you need to play the guys that you drafted,

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Speaker 3: At this point, yeah, two and seven, in particular, where

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Speaker 7: Now, the coaches are gonna argue with that. They always do.

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Speaker 7: They only think very you know, week to week. That's

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Speaker 3: The personnel folks are the ones that are saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: I think you need to see them develop, and they

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Speaker 7: Good, good player for you this year.

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Speaker 2: Another question, we saw Austin Trammell get activated to the

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Speaker 1: A little bit? We thought?

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Speaker 2: I guess the thought was he'll be so involved in

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Speaker 7: So what do you guys, I'll be quick.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six yard punt return is the longest punt return

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Speaker 7: Yes, give me Parker Washington back there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Trammell's a guy who's got the ability to do

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Speaker 7: Okay, I've seen it from Parker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's gonna be Parker's first start.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there was going to be a lot for

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Speaker 3: By the way, I like Trammel. I enjoyed watching him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe give him. He's probably a better route

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Speaker 3: Maybe give him more snaps on offense. Let Parker handle

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Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on Jagzam.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag Zam.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about what's going on

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Speaker 2: in the division because things are not great for everybody either,

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Speaker 2: so let's all commiserate a little bit together. The Titans, though,

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Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph's been in there for a little bit, so

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Speaker 7: Well, he's been in because Levis has been injury.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I am curious what they might end up

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Speaker 2: doing with that because it wasn't going great before that.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: If you're Brian Callahan, that's the balance you have, right,

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Speaker 3: same time, if Will Levis isn't your.

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Speaker 2: Guy, I mean you came in with Will Levis was

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Speaker 3: Right, Yet, you've got to know what you got and

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Speaker 3: how are you going to find that out of Mason

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Speaker 3: Rudolph's play.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you're Brian Callahan too.

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Speaker 4: In this day and age, and I'm not privy of

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Speaker 5: Much quicker trigger world in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to go one in sixteen, yeah, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying they will, but you want to get

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Speaker 5: So I would think there's a little bit of, hey,

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Speaker 3: You want players to buy in for sure that you're doing.

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Speaker 3: And you look at what Baker Mayfield has done, and

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Speaker 3: So maybe you think you can go find another veteran

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Speaker 1: Another quarterback questions as well.

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Speaker 2: In Indianapolis, we saw the Colts decided they were going

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Speaker 1: It's not just the quarterback. There's some other issues going

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: We saw first him with Joe Flacco, you know, last

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Speaker 3: there's a reason why I was sitting on my couch.

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Speaker 3: I was really good when you needed me for three

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Speaker 7: Way, I might not be your guy.

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Speaker 4: Well in as bad game, Kenny as the Vikings, who

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Speaker 5: Look when you're if we're.

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Speaker 4: Looking at the division right now as the Jags, realistically,

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Speaker 4: you're thinking about what does this mean for teams in

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Speaker 5: For the Colts, what they'd figure out is do they

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Speaker 4: And it's funny how quickly times changed in the NFL

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Speaker 4: this offseason. You looked at this division and thought, well,

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Speaker 4: there's a division with four young quarterbacks. We were all

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Speaker 7: Yep, seems to NFC North does must be nice.

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Speaker 2: Now stay with us here, we'll talk up a little

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Speaker 8: Oh, y'all going? Come on, y'all going?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 5: Play six Hello, play, let's put a drive together.

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Speaker 4: Come on?

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Speaker 7: What the Jags trail by twelve twenty eight to sixteen?

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Speaker 7: Trevor's try and run it in there.

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Speaker 3: He's into the airs, a touchdown, a touchdown run God

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Speaker 2: Anton Harrison miked up against the Eagles and there was

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Speaker 2: an eventful, unfortunately eventful night for the offensive line. Anton

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Speaker 3: I hope next year that he can play a full

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Speaker 7: Really good football player. Last year it was the shoulder,

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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys you may not know what

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Speaker 3: you've got at left tackle, but you know what you

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Speaker 1: That's important. You might take your right and put.

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Speaker 5: Him on the movie.

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Speaker 3: He could he played left tackle in college. Maybe he's

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Speaker 3: your solution there. If Walker Little isn't really a good football.

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Speaker 5: Player, Yeah, good kid too. Yes, I hope he's healthy.

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Speaker 2: All right, We'll keep an eye on all things injuries,

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Speaker 2: on Sunday,