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Speaker 2: All right, doctor Anger.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you here, great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Would you have me call you Jacob or doctor Unger.

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Speaker 1: Not not in my office, but I mean, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of do them two things facial rejuvenation, facelifts,

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Speaker 2: Whenever you finish surgery, do you know like I just

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Speaker 1: You know, you got to keep some humility about you

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Speaker 2: is not like you know, because you've done it so

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00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 2: many times, probably what's going to happen. You don't know

439
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 2: the final final result right till it totally heals up. Yeah,

440
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 2: I think that would be what would keep me humble.

441
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it does because you know what, I what

442
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 1: I always say, I can't control how you heal, right,

443
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean with experience and you know, a

444
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: lot of reps, you can get a pretty good idea

445
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 1: of where things are going to end up, but you

446
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: don't really know. People can have bad scarring or good scarring,

447
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: or stretch your skin or tighter tissue, and so you

448
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: know you gotta this this this field will humble you

449
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 1: no matter how good you are.

450
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: So a lot of people say they have a deviated

451
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 2: septum and they just come into the get cosmetically fixed.

452
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 1: I think people sometimes want to have a reason to

453
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: have surgery besides just wanting an improvement in shape.

454
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 2: A deva symptom is a real thing though, Oh for sure,

455
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: Like I don't even know. I had a friend that

456
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,959
Speaker 2: had a real deviated septum. Yeah, and after he had it,

457
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: because he before he went in, he would he would

458
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: close one and it's when he breathe. It was like

459
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: you always had a cold. Right. And again my association

460
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: with dba a'scepting with people lying just you got a

461
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: note job. And he had a real one and he

462
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: came out of it and his looked no different. But

463
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: he had that's called the septoplasty. I wouldn't have known that, yes,

464
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: but he had that done. And so I was like, oh,

465
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: that's a real thing, right. But then I hear and

466
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: I know of people who say that, but I actually

467
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: know that they went in because they just wanted it fixed,

468
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: or they wanted their nose changed a bit.

469
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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think, you know, people are so much

470
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: more upfront about plastic surgery now, they're embracing it as

471
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: opposed to hiding it. I think that that's less common.

472
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Hollywood has he kind of led the charge

473
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: on that. People are coming out and on social media

474
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: there's a new celebrity every day talking about what they

475
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: had done. Why they did it and why they did

476
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: it for themselves and you know, pulling out of the darkness.

477
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not something to be ashamed of. I'm

478
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: obviously biased, but we all want to you know, look

479
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: how we feel and feel like the best version of ourselves.

480
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: And you know, we exercise and we eat healthy, and

481
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: we study and we meditate and we do all these things.

482
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: And so having you know, kind of the physical shape

483
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: and form that matches how you feel, it feels like

484
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: to me a natural extension of how we're able to

485
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: evolve and with technology, you know, do things safely.

486
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: What do you think about red light? Because there's a

487
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: couple versions of other people that have little mask and

488
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: we have the bed the big deal, and so that

489
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: goes deeper. So do you subscribe?

490
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's real for sure. There is real studies

491
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: in peer reviewed journals that show that red light and

492
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: have an impact on a variety of different things in

493
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: the skin from a skin remodeling and you know, just

494
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of revitalization. So it's a great, you know, low risk,

495
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: good return thing. Yeah.

496
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: I think my problem with it's been you can't really tell. Yeah,

497
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: and I've read some studies. I read a study that

498
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: NASA did with plants that blew my mind. And these

499
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: were basically, I'm going to dummy this up, but it's

500
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: basically a bunch of injured plants and they did red

501
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: light on them for an extent period of time and

502
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: they healed back so much faster than the plants that

503
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: were also injured that they did not use red light on.

504
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: And they did this over and over again.

505
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't repeatable.

506
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: Yes, and so like to me, that's enough for me

507
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: to go for it. But I don't ever get out

508
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dang, I just got red lighted like crazy.

509
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: That feels great.

510
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 1: So so listen. Plastic surgery like I perform every day,

511
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: Obviously it's one way and then three hours later it's

512
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: another way. Like it's a big fast change, but it's

513
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: a big thing to do. It's you know, downtime, the

514
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: lower kind of insult to the body you're performing, the

515
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: slower the build right. Like skincare sunscreen, Let's talk about sunscreen.

516
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: We all know that we put on. Sunscreen helps prevent

517
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: skin cancer, also helps with wrinkles. That's because the sun

518
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: damages your skin, destroys the elastin in your skin. Reduces

519
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: the collagen. You don't put on sunscreen, be like, man,

520
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: my skin's also it's it's a it's a forty year

521
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: game you're playing, So keep doing the red light. You

522
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: look good. You'll you'll look better in ten years than

523
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: if you never did.

524
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: It forty of your games. That's a game. Sucks what

525
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: it kind of And I know vitamins work, but red

526
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: light to me kind of feels like vitamins because I

527
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: don't take vitamins and feel good.

528
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: You don't, you know, you don't need you First of all,

529
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: you don't really need to take vitamins because we live

530
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: in America and when everyone everyone's diet gets basically everything

531
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: you need in.

532
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: There, I don't know, sometimes vegetables for like a month.

533
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, forgot, I'm talking to you. Yeah, sometimes you

534
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: should probably take this, just.

535
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: Like supplements and certain things. But okay, go ahead.

536
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: So no, I was I was just saying, it's you

537
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: don't need red light to you know, feel good or

538
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: even look good. What it is small incremental gains, just

539
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: like you know, good skincare to just have that skin

540
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: constantly turning over, and it's st we think about saunas

541
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: we have one I love it. My wife used it

542
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: all the time. I think, I think they're good for you.

543
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: We have an infrared sauna, you know, which which is hot,

544
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: but it's the that energy goes into the body a

545
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: bit more listen to. I think it's the end all

546
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: be all of health and clearly not. I mean, if

547
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Speaker 1: that were the case, everyone in Skandinavia would live forever

548
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: and have no problems, and we would so in ninety

549
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: percent of people in like Sweden or they have they

550
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: have a sauna, like everyone has them. I think there's

551
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: a there's a lots of all these little things, you know,

552
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: cold plunging and and.

553
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: All of the we think about cold plunging.

554
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Listen, I I like it. I do it, Yeah, I do.

555
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: Why do you because I've done it. I'm not a

556
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: hater of it, but I've done it.

557
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I find it and you definitely get adrenaline rush, you

558
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: getting a dopamine hit from that, you know, which is cool.

559
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: I think it can you know, I don't do it

560
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm pretty thin, so I get cold quickly.

561
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: I like the mental game of how long can I

562
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: take this? How calm can I be? You know, just

563
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: kind of work me on mental strength, fortitude. I tell

564
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: my kids, you know, never give up perseverance. I just

565
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: want them to learn grit and toughness and.

566
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's is about discipline. Yours is about pushing

567
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: yourself more than it is physically.

568
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: What it's doing to the body, Yeah, I would say,

569
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I would say that's the bigger part for me. That's

570
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: that's what I certainly love about it. But I'll feel

571
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: good when I get out of it.

572
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: You know what I feel?

573
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Cold? You don't feel it? Kind of floaty? Are you fork? Nah?

574
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: Long enough? Like whatever the time is it to look

575
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: on the internet?

576
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: Right? How long?

577
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: And it's like if you stay two minutes, you know,

578
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: you get a gold coin or something.

579
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: Whatever that is I do.

580
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: But then to me, there is that, oh I feel

581
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: kind of a weight feeling that I do like. But

582
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: it's the dread pre it's the drying off. Now I'm wet.

583
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: I don't like being wet. Just generally speaking, I don't

584
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: like get in the pool.

585
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: We got a pool.

586
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: I don't like it in the pool people are like

587
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: wet you ever so many pool know what. I don't

588
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: like being wet? Yeah, So like that's a part of

589
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: it too. There's just a lot of like weird elements,

590
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: but I subscribe to all. These things probably work a

591
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: little bit, but they only work with consistency. If you're

592
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: if it's like a sauna or red light or what like,

593
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: you have to be consistent in anything for it to

594
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: function well.

595
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: As most things in life, correct you, I'm not going

596
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: to learn guitar because I tried once to do guitar

597
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: hero So yeah, I think that's totally right. Again, this

598
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: is not a one and done kind of thing. This

599
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: is like a commitment. This is a lifestyle. Those are

600
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: These are lifestyle things.

601
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: So you know, if I went in and had sympat

602
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: taking all my stomach.

603
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew that's why I was.

604
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: Here, and I would do that. I would have asked

605
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: you to, like bring the pliers and the scissors and

606
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: let's get it done. The problem for me is not

607
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: any sort of stigma. It's the recovery. I don't recover.

608
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: I don't like being wet. I don't want to recover. Okay,

609
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: so I don't have time to recover.

610
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I know.

611
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: It's like I run so so hard and I'm on

612
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: red all the time that I don't have a couple

613
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: of weeks to be like, hey, I'm just gonna but

614
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: is it. Let's say I went in and I was like, hey,

615
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: I got a little fat. Here, help me out because

616
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm in pretty good shape. And let's I did that.

617
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: How long would it be until I could like played

618
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: pickleball or run again?

619
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: So you know, listen, I know, I know that feeling.

620
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I am set on go at

621
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: all times. You know, my mother's always you know, honey,

622
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: you're so tired. You know, just kind of the way

623
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: it is. So I totally hear what you're saying. Serger's

624
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: not that long. Liposuction is is a little bit of

625
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: a quicker recovery than other things. I mean, healing takes time,

626
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: but from a recovery standpoint, you can be back to

627
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: some exercise like one week. Might be sore, it might

628
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: hurt a little, you know, but again that's all appear.

629
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: You're not going to hurt anything because nothing's been kind

630
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: of cut and sewn. You can't tear anything apart. But

631
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, I give patients a pretty quick recovery timeframe,

632
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: the quickest that science will allow. Because most of my

633
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: patients are super active and have a lot going on.

634
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: No one really wants to be down. So by six

635
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: weeks from any surgery I'm doing, you can do anything.

636
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Could I rock climb?

637
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: Could I dunk?

638
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: You can definitely learn to dunk, just from like dunk before.

639
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: But if I can dunk after it, I thought as much. Yeah, yeah,

640
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: this will make you dumb.

641
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: Lipos suction so liblosuction in my mind, as you take

642
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: the dentist endows and you suck out the fat, is

643
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: that true.

644
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: In very few words? Yeah. So liposuction is done with canulests.

645
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: They're kind of like metal straws, okay, and they have

646
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: holes on them, and you have to put some fluid

647
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: into the fatty tissue of the body first kind of

648
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: let it set up, and then you go in back

649
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: and forth with multiple little access points to try to

650
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: create a smooth, even playing field essentially by removing fat

651
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: where you want to remove it. And so it really

652
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: is it's an art, you know, it's it's sculpting. I

653
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: mean there's some science, of course, there are science behind

654
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: the safety, there's science behind when to know when to stop,

655
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, but it's really just to your eye and

656
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: touch and experience what you need to remove and what

657
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: you need to leave behind.

658
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: Can fat come back in the spots that you've sucked

659
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: it out?

660
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: It's a great question. Once you remove fat cells, they're

661
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: gone forever. You can't get new fat sales. So after

662
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: you're about five years old, the fat seals you have

663
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: or the fat sez you have, as you gain weight,

664
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: those fat cells expand or contract.

665
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh they're not more fat cells, no more fat sales.

666
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: The fat selters get fat.

667
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: That's it. Fat seales get fat, so they kind of swell.

668
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: If you look at it, they kind of look like

669
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: like chicken wire. That's what fat cells in the body

670
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: look like. And those fat those chicken wire holes get

671
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: bigger or smaller. So if you have a problem area

672
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: where you tend to gain all your weight and you

673
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: suction out fat from that area, fat will not go

674
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: there as preferentially. I mean, you'll still gain weight in

675
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: all the areas, but if you used to go to

676
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: your belly and now you gain ten pounds, you might

677
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: feel it more, you know, in your hips or thighs

678
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: more so than that area.

679
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: Do generally, guy get it like And there's because I

680
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: have a rout of my stomach here. I also have

681
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: a surgery where I have scar tissue where it kind

682
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: of grows back weird anyway, I might splein taken out.

683
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: So from my starnum down to you know, almost my

684
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: what you guys would call, I use clinical turns my

685
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: weener area. There's there's a scar.

686
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm really are reductory ex Yeah, so I.

687
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Have a scar. And again because of that, my stomach

688
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: is a little weird. I know, belly button a little

689
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: weird anyway, But that's still where the fat goes on me.

690
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Is that most dudes?

691
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? That so men tend to gain it in the

692
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: inn section. Women you know, tend to gain it more

693
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: and the hips, thighs kind of area as a general rule,

694
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: so you know, men that come in for liposuction. The

695
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: key to really everything I do is making you know

696
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: what I tell patients, I want the skin to match

697
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: the deeper tissue. So right now there's a little bit

698
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: more fat, there might be a little bit of extra skin.

699
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: If there's extra skin already, I won't do liposuction because

700
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: all it's going to do is remove fat and leave

701
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: more skin. So I tell everybody, you know, a bunch

702
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: of saggy skinniness isn't better than kind of a fuller,

703
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: slightly more plump thing. So a lot of things have

704
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: to be aligned for liposuction to be the solution.

705
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Do you ever tell people no all the time? Tell

706
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: me about that.

707
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, if you find a surgeon

708
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: that only tells you yes, run because you know that

709
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: that's really saying no is more important than saying yes.

710
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: My job is to educate on the on the front end,

711
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: make sure that we're aligned, expectations are appropriate, and then

712
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: maybe you're a candidate to have a surgery. And a

713
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: lot of times people want things that aren't realistic, or

714
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: have unrealistic expectations, or want something that's not real and

715
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: so no is how I spend most of my consult days.

716
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: Is an unrealistic expectation If someone wants a whole lot

717
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: if fat taken out, like what would be an realized equitation?

718
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: So you know, like if you get your haircut, you

719
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: taking a picture and do this, does that happen?

720
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Yes? So somebody A good example would be, you know

721
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: a breast patient. Let's say there's a fuller figured woman

722
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: that has low breasts, she's older, and she brings in

723
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: a picture of a swimsuit model. Well, she's not gonna

724
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: have those breasts, right Like, that's just not in the cars.

725
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: There's too much tissue, the chest is too wide. Things

726
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: have changed too much, you know. So people say this

727
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: is what I want, and that's an easy no. I don't.

728
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't see much of that disconnect. But you know,

729
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: people will also bring in a picture. They'll say, I

730
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: feel I'm so tired now I don't look as good

731
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: as I used to. This is me just a few

732
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: years ago. I want to look like this, And they'll

733
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: bring in, you know, maybe an ai kind of air

734
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: brushed picture. You're like, I can't make you a cartoon.

735
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. Right. So again, most of

736
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: my patients are incredibly lovely, very reasonable. You know, people

737
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: you want to be your friend. I mean, that's what

738
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I look for. If I don't like you, if I

739
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: don't connect with you, then I'm not the right doctor

740
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: for you.

741
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

742
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: Bobby cast.

743
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: If I wanted to get peck implants, because my whole life,

744
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: I've been very insecure about my chest. Okay, when I

745
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: was thirteen, I had the chest of a thirteen year

746
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: old boy. When I was thirty, I had the chest

747
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: of a thirteen year old boy. It really never matured

748
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 2: past yeah, that thirteen year old boy, and I'm beyond

749
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 2: that now. But if I did, is that something that's

750
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: done for guys that it makes them look like strong

751
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: at the gym.

752
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't do that at all. I do no implants

753
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: in males. I do no implants in women other than

754
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: you know, breast implants. There are very small group of

755
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: surgeons that I know around the world that do that routinely,

756
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: so they have the experience to do it. Because it's

757
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: not a super high request surgery, so you better find

758
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: someone who does that's really specialized in kind of male

759
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: bodybuilding enhancing style surgery. But there's a lot of problems,

760
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: you know with that. I mean, the male peck is

761
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: obviously a big muscle, it's used a lot. The implants

762
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: for men are these kind of very rigid pieces of silicone,

763
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: and so I mean it's just something I've I've totally avoided.

764
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I'm never I'm thirteen or forever, I'll

765
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: die thirteen years of my jest. Yeah, cats also not

766
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: common at all. None of these solid none of these

767
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: solid implants are common, especially in the United States. They're

768
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: more common in Asia, Middle East. They don't look very good.

769
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, just you know why I don't do

770
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: them most of the time, so yeah, I would steer

771
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: clear of that.

772
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Giving heard about those people that break bones and get taller,

773
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: like the sur where they and they put a rod in.

774
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy a Lizarov. Yeah, so what it's called,

775
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: And well, the Elizarev method was invented in Russia and

776
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: like I think the eighteen hundreds. I mean, you're testing

777
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: my memory here, but you know, that's a real thing

778
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: you can cut. So we actually that was one of

779
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: the big projects at NYU. It's called distraction osteogenesis, which

780
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: is big words, but it means taking a bone, pulling

781
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: it apart slowly and allowing new bone to fill in.

782
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: So it was first done in the legs, then it

783
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: was done in the jaw. We do it for babies

784
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: all the time that have certain cranio facial abnormalities, very

785
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: very small chin, no airway, They have to have a

786
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: trake when they're born. You can rebuild the jaw, stretch

787
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: it out so the tongue pulls forward and they can

788
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: get rid of a trake, live a normal life. Wow,

789
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: that's very common in a children's hospital. You go to

790
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt right now, there's a I'm sure I don't know,

791
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: but a number of children in the pediatric ICU they

792
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: get a quarter turn. The residents go by and do

793
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: a quarter turn, you know, twice a day or four

794
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: times a day, depending on where you are, to stretch

795
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: out that jaw. So that was the chairman at n YU.

796
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Bringing it back to why I went there for med school.

797
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: He was this really famous creating and vacial surgeon. He

798
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: wrote the first paper on doing that in the jaw

799
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: as opposed to the leg and dogs, and you know,

800
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: that kind of set him up for a big career

801
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons why I wanted to go there.

802
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: But it's it's a real thing. Yeah. One dude grew

803
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: like four inch.

804
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: He didn't grow. One dude put in like he grew.

805
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: I grew, I keep saying grew. He was four inch taller.

806
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Once he was healed, he walked a little funny.

807
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

808
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: And then you're like, as it worked that you're walking

809
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: a little funny with you with your new rods. Then

810
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: you're so, I think that's wild. You know, it was

811
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: wild that show The Swan. You ever watched that? That

812
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: show was crazy? Telling me that show. You had to

813
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: look at that and be like, what are they doing?

814
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was that was a little overstepping probably you

815
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

816
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, let me explain to people

817
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: watching this and listening to this The Swan epic show

818
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah, but it shouldn't have been real. No,

819
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: they both can exist like epic show, but they shouldn't

820
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: have been In my opinion, it was somebody who went

821
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: in and they were like, uh, everything was like off,

822
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: and they were like fix me, and they did like

823
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: forty two surgeries on them and all a sudden they

824
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: walked out and they were like a Swan everything.

825
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a wild show. That was a wild

826
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: show at the nineties.

827
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: Probably are did you look at the Swan.

828
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: Really?

829
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? So kind of like that Nip Tuck era is

830
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: kind of early, you know that that nineties plastic surgery

831
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: was so kind of under the radar. You know, seventies

832
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: and eighties you look in Manhattan, socialites would get facelifts,

833
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: but like super hush hush and very very small small volume.

834
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: Has things got more refined and better and safer kind

835
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: of started ramping up and things went a little wild

836
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: and like kind of the late nineties early two thousands. Again,

837
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: I was I was young at that point, so I.

838
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: Oh, I had piece with the swan though, that's a wow,

839
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: that's a wild thing I've ever seen.

840
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: That was it. And then and then everyone's like, we're

841
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna rain that. Bring that in a little bit.

842
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: Whoever green lit that show I should have a talk with.

843
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: That's crazy because they would have like all these surgeries

844
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: at once and they'd present them and they still look

845
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: jacked up. But still though, it is crazy that like

846
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: what it was a wild rewarding surgeries for you as

847
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: a human being, Like, can you tell me about a

848
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: couple that you've done where you're just so proud of

849
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: your work because you've helped somebody's life.

850
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know it not to sound like overblown,

851
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: but it's like almost countless, Like I mean, you you know,

852
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: that's what's important for me to realize it. It's not

853
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: just fixing a hole from cancer that people are appreciative

854
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: of and life changing for you know, the more common

855
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: thing I see now, you know moms are the best example.

856
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: They have babies, they nurture their children, they raise their children.

857
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: It does a toll on the body, you know, without

858
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: a doubt, stretching out, the stomach, the muscles, the skin,

859
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: breast get deflated and change, you know. I no one

860
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: gets spared, right supermodels. I see supermodels, they get you know,

861
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: a lot of changes in their bodies too. And to

862
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: help a woman kind of restore herself and feel like

863
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: herself off again, there's a lot of happy tears and

864
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: there's a you know, it's a really it's a really

865
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: special thing to get to be a part of, you know,

866
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: that journey for people. And then on the reconstructive side,

867
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, you take someone who's having you know,

868
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 1: a burn victim that can't turn their neck, and you

869
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: do a surgery to rebuild the neck so that it's

870
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: flexible and pliable again. Or somebody cuts their thumb off

871
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: and you put it back on for.

872
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Them, which that's happened.

873
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've done it countless times. In residency, I

874
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: don't do that, you know anymore. That's you need a

875
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: big academic center. So I trained in Dallas Parkland Hospital,

876
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: biggest public hospital in the country, and we had we

877
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: were on what's called replant call replanting fingers and arms

878
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: every single day for six years the plastic surgery department

879
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: at UT Southwestern.

880
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: So there are that many people losing fingers in arms.

881
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh, it's NonStop. I mean they fly them all in.

882
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: You know, everyone's crazy.

883
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean it happens multiple times a day.

884
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: And so they come in and Okay, if happens, do

885
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: you put it on ice? Because that's what TV said,

886
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: they put it on ice. Like let's say I chopped

887
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: a finger off and I'm like, oh my god, there's

888
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: my finger.

889
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: Wrap it in a in a wet paper towel, put

890
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: it on ice. Go to a major academic center. But

891
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: does that mean the hospital I saw our major academic

892
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: hospital like a Vanderbilt. These services this is very very

893
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, you have like primary care, it's like your doctor.

894
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: Then you go on up. This is like what we

895
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: call quaternary or fourth level care. It takes a big

896
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: team of specialists, special microscopes, microsurgeons who do this all day.

897
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: It's you're not going to find it at like every

898
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: random hospital in small towns, but they'll they'll ship you.

899
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: That reminds me we were both too young to have

900
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: been adults when this happened. But and I'm only partially

901
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: being funny because I'm curious about this, But remember when Lorraina.

902
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Bobbitt cut off John Wayne Bobbitt's penis and threw it

903
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: in the field.

904
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: So I reattached two penises.

905
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: You have a kid and I again, hah whatever, But

906
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm that serious stuff like how does that? How do

907
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: you get it to work again? It does it work?

908
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: Full ever? Again?

909
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: So, I mean it's one of the I've presented this case.

910
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's not that common. There's only a couple

911
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: of the papers written about penis replants. The kid he

912
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: was young, you know, one of the ones. Anyway, he

913
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: was getting erections before he left the hospital. I mean

914
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: again medically speaking, and you know it was working that fast.

915
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh you're in the hospital for a while.

916
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh you are. You don't walk in a couple threads

917
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: and it's.

918
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, it's a it's a couple of the

919
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of hospital.

920
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: How do you get it to work again?

921
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: Though? Because it feels like there's a lot of blood vessels. Yeah,

922
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: all those tubes back together. So it's called microsurgery because

923
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: we use a microscope. Under the microscope we do tiny

924
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: little needles that you really can't see the sutures for

925
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: that is much thinner than a human hair, you know,

926
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: a couple of microns thick, and you sew them, you know,

927
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: interrupted the little stitches all the way around the circle,

928
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: but the two tubes reconnecting them all nerves, arteries, veins.

929
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: Any of the nerves or veins artificial.

930
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Then not in that particular case. But you know, if

931
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: you lose a finger, sometimes there's nerves and your fingers.

932
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: Your fingers aren't too good without nerves. And so there

933
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: are what are called nerve graps. They're off the shelf,

934
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: meaning they are products that are in the hospital, and

935
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: you can take that little it's basically like a nerve

936
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: sheath without the DNA from a person, and you can

937
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: use that to plug in and then the nerves can

938
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: regrow through that tube.

939
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: This is going to be the stupidest question, please respect it.

940
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Could you attach somebody else's penis onto my spot?

941
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: No?

942
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: You couldn't.

943
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: No, So listen again, that's a transplant, right. So the

944
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: body has an immune system. The immune system recognizes self

945
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: and non self. So some people have allergies. That's pallen.

946
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: Your body sees it as a problem, fights it. If

947
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: I plug someone else's DNA onto you, your body be like,

948
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: what are these cells?

949
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: What about an organ transplant? Though? What if someone had

950
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: a matching penis.

951
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: So you could wrote if you're identical twin had a

952
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: much bigger penis than you can take it from him

953
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: and put it on you identical two ends. It would work.

954
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, So you know you have

955
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: to immune with suppress transplant patients because they have to.

956
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: Be really close.

957
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: So if you get a you know, you have a kidden,

958
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: you need a kidney transplant, you have to find a match,

959
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: like the donor has to match. You can't take any

960
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: old kidney. It has to be someone who's really similar

961
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: to you. Sometimes family members are matches they have. Again

962
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: this is not my area, but there's a variety of

963
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: factors that they look at to see what immuneo logic things,

964
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: what immune system things match up, and you need enough

965
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: of those to match to be a match to get

966
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: that kidney. Even with that, you're on serious medicine for

967
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: the rest of your life to dumb down your immune system.

968
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: So someone with a kidney transplant gets sick, it's a

969
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: big deal. They're in the hospital real quickly. They have

970
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 1: got a lot of antibiotics because their immune system doesn't

971
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: work the same.

972
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: Why you've had to replace two penises. And that's not

973
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: even that's crazy that it could even work even a finger, Like,

974
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: it's crazy that you can get it to to function again.

975
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool. Yeah.

976
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: What what was the first human you ever cut into?

977
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: Were they alive?

978
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I guess not, no speak, you know, the first humans

979
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: that we cut into is going to be in general anatomy.

980
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, general anatomy like good advertype situation. Yeah, but

981
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: you're not learning surgical technique. You're just learning all the structures.

982
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: The first human I cut into.

983
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: Was are you nervous? Your first your first surgery?

984
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: For sure? It was med school, you know, I was

985
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: operating with the surgical team, and that's how teaching hospitals work.

986
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: I was super gung ho, like I said, I would

987
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: finish my classic certain my excuse me, my medical school work,

988
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: and then late at night I go to the hospital

989
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: and figure out what plastic surgery cases were happening, reconstructing

990
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: all these things. Ask if I could come in and

991
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: scrub in and then get to know you better and

992
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: better and better and then let you do stuff.

993
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm meaning to ask this in a positive way, but

994
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: were you a super nerd for it?

995
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

996
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: Like you wanted it. You were so nerdy for it,

997
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: Like you wanted to be there when it wasn't even

998
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: your time to be there.

999
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: I was there all the time. That's awesome, my time

1000
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: to be there.

1001
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: That's what I want my surgeon to be. I allan

1002
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: a pilot to be that too. I want my pilot

1003
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: to be outside the simular to being like can I

1004
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: get in? I know it's not my time, but that's

1005
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: what I want all my surgeons, my pilots, anything that

1006
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: because you have our life in your hands.

1007
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's you know now at this stage

1008
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: in my career, I'm actually trying to learn how to

1009
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: extricate how I see myself from just being a surgeon.

1010
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's been the focus of my life. You know,

1011
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm in my early forties. For the last twenty years,

1012
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I've been like focused on basically that, right, and you know,

1013
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: you're not You're now you're a father, and you're a husband,

1014
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: and you have friends and You're not just a radio

1015
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, You're not a radio host, You're not just

1016
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: a You're not a personality alone. So much of my

1017
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: of my self worth has been wrapped up in what

1018
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: I do that you know, it ends up being a

1019
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: little unhealthy. At some point. You have to remember that

1020
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: you're a person and you know, connect with my kids

1021
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: and wife and friends and find other interests because it's

1022
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: easy to just do nothing, but that forever you get

1023
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: zoned in, you get focused, and you get worried that

1024
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: if you're not doing more than you're not doing enough.

1025
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, my entire identity has always been about

1026
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: what I do, and I'm starting to, as you said,

1027
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: not have that be the sole focus. That's also hard

1028
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: to release that because of the goals that I've always had,

1029
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: because a little bit of me starts to have real

1030
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: life come into play and it's not the sole focus.

1031
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: And I start to go, wait, am I if I

1032
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: slow down, if I start to lean into these other

1033
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: parts of my life that are valuable. But if I

1034
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: take the gas off of this you know, radio show, podcast,

1035
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: whatever I'm doing, like I'm going to lose it there.

1036
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: Like I struggle with that because I've always been such

1037
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: a nerd for all this.

1038
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel a lot of similarities with you.

1039
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: So what my executive coach would say is, you know

1040
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: what motivated me early on? You know, fear. I don't

1041
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: want to I didn't want to have nothing. I didn't

1042
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: want to be able to afford to send my kids

1043
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: to school. I wanted to achieve something. I wanted to

1044
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: accomplish something different. But you know that fear doesn't serve

1045
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: I'll speak for myself. It doesn't serve me anymore. I

1046
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: don't need to live my life upset when everything isn't perfect.

1047
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: And you know, this week, I should have done one

1048
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: more surgery because I could have and I had the time,

1049
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: and why wasn't it full? And why isn't Why did

1050
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: no one come in for that? And you know, I

1051
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: spend my I spend end up spending your life like

1052
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: kind of miserable or frustrated or upset. And I'm not

1053
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: going to you know, I'm not going to let my

1054
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: foot off the gas. This is who I am. I'm

1055
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: going to strive for excellence. I don't need to do

1056
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: it in such a way that I'm just beating myself constant.

1057
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, that served me. But it's time to, you know,

1058
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: move on with with the next next face.

1059
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: Did you find having kids change that?

1060
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: You know, my wife, she's gonna laugh and she hears this.

1061
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: So when when my first child was born, I was

1062
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: a resident. I was on my chairman's rotation, said, babe,

1063
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: I have big surgery with doctor Roorg. That's that was

1064
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: my chairman and one of my big mentors. Tomorrow, do

1065
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: not have this baby. Of course she had the baby.

1066
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: I had to skip work. Was I was, It was okay.

1067
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: I took three days off and then I went right

1068
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: back to the grind. I'm like, this is my training.

1069
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: I you know, you'll be fine. Your mom's coming to town.

1070
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Cute baby high. You know. Second child, I was in

1071
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: early in practice. I took one day off. I went

1072
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: in for the day of the baby and I said,

1073
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: you're good, right, you can go. I'll get you home tomorrow.

1074
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: But I went back, like I have patience there. You know,

1075
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: they they moved their life to have surgery. I can't cancel.

1076
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: Third child. We scheduled. I had it born on a Sunday,

1077
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: so I took no days off. I was pretty upset

1078
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: by this point. This is this is only six years ago,

1079
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: and I thought it was so cool. You know. I

1080
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: was like, I'm earning for my family, and I'm all

1081
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Speaker 1: my wife wanted was me to be around, and all

1082
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: my kids want is me, and so you know that

1083
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: was ramping up to the to the most extreme kind

1084
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: of overdone. And I used to think it was cool,

1085
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: just like I used to brag about not sleeping. You know,

1086
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: we were always trained like I haven't slept in three days,

1087
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm still up. You know. Someone eventually was like, you

1088
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: know that's not cool, right dude. I'm like, oh, okay,

1089
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: So trying to trying to recognize what I'm really going

1090
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: to care about on my deathbed. And I really do

1091
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: care about my patients, and I want my family to

1092
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: be proud of me, and I want to be a

1093
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: pillar of my community. And I you know, I love

1094
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: that whatever reputation I've been able to to create has

1095
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: been one of you know, trusting and loving and good

1096
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: BETSI manner, and that is all a big part of

1097
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: who I am. But I can't shirk everything else and

1098
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: just expect it to stay there and be there for me.

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00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 2: I started to have mortality thoughts now, which I never

1103
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: really had. That's just the getting older part.

1104
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1105
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: And I was always the youngest, always the youngest at

1106
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: at a high level, right always, And now that's catching

1107
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: up too, And so you start to go, whatever, I

1108
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: want to die soon? Yeah, like maybe if I just

1109
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: die now, I'll be cool. Still I die cool? Hear

1110
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: anything about that? You know? Think about that?

1111
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm not cool, so I don't even worry

1112
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: about that. But you know, yes, like someday though, the

1113
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: public might not be as interested in you right like

1114
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: down the line for whatever reason. And so that's not

1115
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: all that makes you. That's not all that makes you important.

1116
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: That's not all that makes you, you know, a light

1117
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: in this world. So I think gaining some perspective, especially

1118
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: while you still have all the accolades and everything going

1119
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: and you know, all the stuff you've done, Like you know,

1120
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: I've been here for eleven years now in Nashville, and

1121
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: obviously I've known about you because everyone knows about you

1122
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: for all this time. And I've seen I've watched you,

1123
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: know that growth your career, what you've done, how hard

1124
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: you've pushed how many things you do at the same time,

1125
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I connect with that and I look

1126
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: up to that. You know, it's just you can get

1127
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: caught on that treadmill and kind of lose everything else.

1128
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, having a kid, and again we're so new in

1129
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: the kid state process. I don't know, it's the baby,

1130
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: it's a human I don't know, not a process. I

1131
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: feel like a science experiment time. I'm not gonna lie,

1132
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's like that stuff starts to set in

1133
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: a little bit where it's like, I really need to

1134
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: allow these other things to come in because if I don't,

1135
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: they're going to come in anyway. And so I'm going

1136
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: through that a bit. It a couple other questions that

1137
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: popped it in my mind, and I hope I'm not

1138
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: speaking out of turn here. And maybe you've set out

1139
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: before to Kristen before. Yeah, okay, so if I'm wrong,

1140
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: but I believe you to Christian Cavalari's breast augmentation, if

1141
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: it's a celebrity on the table, is that more pressure?

1142
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: You know, she's awesome, she's she's a sweet, dear friend

1143
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: as well, which is always you know, which is actually

1144
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: another layer of pressure, right, operating on your friends, which

1145
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: I've done a lot by this point. You know, it's

1146
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously a little more into the microscope. You know,

1147
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more stress, especially when you first

1148
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: start operating on people in the public eye. And I

1149
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: try to put that aside. I mean maybe leading up

1150
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: to it, but then, like, you know, I'm no athlete,

1151
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: but you know, being in the zone kind of thing.

1152
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be in my flow state.

1153
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing. It could be person ABC or D,

1154
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: does not matter, and I come up for air at

1155
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: the end and it's been three hours and you know,

1156
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: it's like a total time warp, and you know, then

1157
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: I might be like, oh god, you know, but I

1158
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: really try to approach everything the same. I think that's

1159
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: when you mess things up when you try to, like,

1160
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, be extra cool or do something extra because

1161
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: you're worried about that person or patient.

1162
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: So it's got to be a weird relationship because let's

1163
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: say you do the breast augmentation on somebody and then

1164
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: you see them two years later, do.

1165
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 5: They just go, look doc, They're still good Usually to everybody, honestly,

1166
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: I'm right after But if you just see them like

1167
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 5: years later that that's probably just.

1168
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: Normal to be like, how are they sure?

1169
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen, it's a private thing. I

1170
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: want to respect people's privacy, so I will never come

1171
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: up to you to you, yeah, they come up to me,

1172
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: then I'll take their lead like you know whatever.

1173
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: That's wild.

1174
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. I always say, like, sixteen year

1175
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: old me is super impressed with adult met It's like,

1176
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: you see a lot of boobs. Wow.

1177
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: Do you feel fulfilled with your your career choice? Yeah,

1178
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: that's cool, that's the coolest part of all this.

1179
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: How about you?

1180
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like a failure still tremendously, like tremendous.

1181
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: I I I live in a failure state, right, So

1182
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: it's nice to know that if I were fired, I

1183
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: would still be able to buy groceries for the rest

1184
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: of my life. Like that's a comfort. But I feel like,

1185
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: but I feel like a failure constantly in my guts,

1186
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: like deep, deep, deep. So I think I'm fulfilled when

1187
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: I can do cool things for people, Right, that's awesome. Yeah,

1188
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: I think that's where my fulfillment comes from. All this

1189
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: stuff goes away tomorrow, nobody knows who I am in

1190
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: two days. If you know it's not real, but like

1191
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: I cling to it at the same time, So I

1192
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: don't know, it depends what day it is. Yeah, but

1193
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: it's like I'm more fulfilled for you after having this

1194
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: conversation because again, my association with plastic surgery is what

1195
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: television has told me, and that is unfair. Yeah, because

1196
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: you were like, that's oh, that's slick willed the plastic surgeon.

1197
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: He's doing boobs and butts to make whim But really

1198
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: there's like so much more involved. It's so it's so

1199
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: involved that I'm kind of embarrassed I ever felt that way

1200
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: about it. And also you're like in shape and cool

1201
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: and good. Look and you're like, look at you.

1202
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: Look at him.

1203
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: He's you know, mustakes, he's hot stuff. Do you get that?

1204
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: You know, like you're you're like really good, You're like

1205
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: really in shape. You can't do it to yourself, though,

1206
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: can you?

1207
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: You can't, Like, no, I've never had any cosmetic surgery.

1208
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: You haven't, Dan, could you do it to yourself?

1209
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I actually did do a small procedure on myself, you know,

1210
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: little fatty tumors called like pomas, like a little kind

1211
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: of ball under the skin.

1212
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: You ever heard of that not familiar now, But I had.

1213
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: One on my stomach, and I'm like, I think I

1214
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: can do this. So I have my team around me.

1215
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: I laid out of my own chair, I numbed it up,

1216
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: took a knife, I cut into it, I spread it,

1217
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: I got it out, and I sewed it up. So

1218
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: I did one little surgery on myself. But no, you

1219
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: can't do like real surgery.

1220
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: And you've never been weird about see guts and stuff.

1221
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: Never no, never hard to cut into flesh like I

1222
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: when my baby was born, I didn't want to cut

1223
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: the umbilical cord. I didn't yeah, by the way, because

1224
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: I said, is there a benefit. If there is, I'm

1225
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: happy to do it. If it's going to benefit the

1226
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: baby in any way, give me the garden cheers, right,

1227
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: And they were like, no, shit, I'm out, don't find

1228
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: oh I cut a mistake. I'll be honest with you.

1229
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I pick up, I do a full fork like lollipop.

1230
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't like cutting meat, so for me, not the job.

1231
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: But you never got an issue.

1232
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: No, you know, I don't have a lot of natural talents.

1233
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: But like that was that's certainly something that set me up.

1234
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I was never a problem for me. I uh,

1235
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: you know. One of my sons loves it, right, He's

1236
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: watched me do surgery office. I have a surgical center

1237
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: and in my office it's all private, so he can

1238
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: kind of watch from the window, and he's always been

1239
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: super enamor with it. My other son he's like, you know,

1240
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: it's like, oh god, you know, and it's it's so cute.

1241
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: He's like, I think I can get over because I

1242
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: want to be a plastic surgeon like daddy too. It's

1243
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: like so adorable. But I think and by the way,

1244
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't think just because it weirds you out when

1245
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: you're young, or it doesn't me portends one you know,

1246
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: answer or the other. You could start feeling kind of

1247
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: grossed out and get over it. I don't like it,

1248
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like I don't like eyeballs, like

1249
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: poking eyeballs, Like I don't.

1250
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: Like watching poet torture or surgery.

1251
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm not a fan of torture. No. No, you know,

1252
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 1: like a lens replacement in the eyes where you cut

1253
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: through the quardia and opening got it.

1254
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: That that that's too far a little weird for me.

1255
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: Huh h.

1256
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: Congratulations on everything, but like people really respect you because

1257
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, we says to show start on Netflix. It's

1258
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: been for the most part, just people I'm super interested

1259
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: in and so, uh, like, I'm really and I hope

1260
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: my questions have been coming from a sincere place, even

1261
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: though they've kind of been funny. But I really do

1262
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: wonder this stuff, and I think that I was just

1263
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: kind of I had the wrong impression. But like I

1264
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: that's it's been a super enlightening last hour for me.

1265
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you. That's awesome answering those questions.

1266
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, you know, I mean, I I

1267
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: want to make my family proud, and you know, honestly,

1268
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: being invited on this felt like a big deal. So

1269
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, you're the first non.

1270
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: Celebrityve had on Netflix. I think you're a celebrity. Don't

1271
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: take that. Don't be offended by that, you know what

1272
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 2: I mean, You know what I mean, it's a fair stave.

1273
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: Don't find offense in that, because hopefully that didn't.

1274
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: If I'm only a celebrity to like my mother.

1275
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: Regardless, Like, you know, what's your what's your favorite surgery

1276
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: to do? If you've got one surgery and the like.

1277
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: You can specialize in one thing. What do you do?

1278
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: I My answer has always been too you know, I

1279
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: love I love my little mix. I love doing really

1280
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: so I final I'll give you an answer. Thank you, Okay, fine.

1281
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: So complex re visionary breast surgery is probably what I'm

1282
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, best known for from like a.

1283
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: Broader what's complex about it?

1284
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Like people that have problems or issues, you know, maybe

1285
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: in infection, maybe a heart of scar tissue issue or

1286
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: asymmetry malposition meaning implants on the wrong spot that if

1287
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: I tried to have it fixed multiple times. I do

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Speaker 1: a lot of like clean up work, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: a fun challenge.

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Speaker 2: I have a friend that's a vet and people will

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Speaker 2: just send her pictures of like their dog's pooping or

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Speaker 2: like being they get their dogs sick or something. Do

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: you ever people just send you pictures of them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, what what is this?

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Speaker 2: What can I do?

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Speaker 1: Really have a lot of new selfies?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You could get away with that though, I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: a way, No, honey, I'm a plastic sergeant.

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Speaker 1: Listen. My wife does all my Instagram stuff along with

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Speaker 1: Sophie my office, who's awesome, and a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: I don't really go on there much, and you know

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Speaker 1: it be it'd be probably I have no interest, but

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Speaker 1: probably pretty easy to pull up in a fair you know,

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Speaker 1: like no one.

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Speaker 2: I would think. So my final question is if I

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Speaker 2: don't get enough sleep and I don't eat right, my

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: performance the next day, it's probably not going to be good.

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Speaker 2: I might get away with it once, right, But because

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Speaker 2: I have to be mentally focused, I've got to be

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Speaker 2: there physically, yeah, I have to be on Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I have to take care of myself. Do you feel that way,

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Speaker 2: like going before surgery, like the night before it's eat right,

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Speaker 2: get get to sleep on time, like you have to

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Speaker 2: do the fundamental things right so you can do right

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Speaker 2: for them, of course, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I work out five every morning. You know,

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Speaker 1: I go to bed early every night. When I'm on vacation,

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Speaker 1: I get up, I have my same routine every morning.

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Speaker 1: I kiss the kids to make money. You know, it

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Speaker 1: is very much like game day ritual if you will.

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Speaker 1: You know, every day I wanted to be consistent and

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Speaker 1: and you know I owe that to my patients, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to feel the best version of myself.

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Speaker 1: So I hopefully agree.

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Speaker 2: Mike do you have anything, because I'll end. But if

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Speaker 2: there's any question, I just didn't ask because I have

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Speaker 2: a hundred that come at me.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 2: I wants anything that comes to your mind. Okay, that

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Speaker 2: means I've done a good job. Okay, if he's got nothing,

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01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: that means I've done a good job.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: People can just reach out to you on the Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah sure for sure?

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Speaker 2: Uh or yeah sure, yes, we said it before you

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Speaker 2: came in. We can say it again.

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Speaker 1: I don't, but yeah Instagram, there's a website.

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Speaker 2: But don't just stop by. Don't do like because if

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Speaker 2: people don't apparently people don't just stop by a walking

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Speaker 2: swinging by looking for it's.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna work too well. Yeah yeah, set up

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Speaker 2: an appointment. Doctor talkers, thank you for your time. This

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Speaker 2: has been awesome, Bobby.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Man.

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Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.