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Speaker 1: What angel y. I'm here with my girl Jazz Mein Brand.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we had somebody who is an entrepreneur all

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Speaker 1: We have Dr Aka David.

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Speaker 2: Ramiworld here with us. Thank you for joining us today,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. And I know you from Rolling

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Speaker 2: Stone Africa because I followed Rolling Stone Africa and you

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Speaker 2: actually led the acquiring of Rolling Stone Africa.

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Speaker 1: Is that your company?

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Speaker 3: That's right? That's right. So in twenty twenty one, I

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Speaker 3: founded a company called one kom So monkuin Sili means renaissance,

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Speaker 3: and you know, essentially we wanted to celebrate the Black

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Speaker 3: renaissance that was happening on the continent and also in

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Speaker 3: the diaspora. And for us, it was very important to

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Speaker 3: unify all the countries. So you know, music being one

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Speaker 3: of the main unifiers. We felt our Rolling Stone Africa

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Speaker 3: would make the most sense and that's why we started

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Speaker 3: talking to PMC and you know, organize the purchase of

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Speaker 3: a license for ardings toon Africa.

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Speaker 1: Where are you from originally?

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Speaker 3: So, I was born in Paris, grew up there, but

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Speaker 3: my parents, my dad is from Haiti and my mom

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Speaker 1: Guadeloup, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk about mon com Plus because

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Speaker 2: you guys don't just have ronnesson Africa, like you said,

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Speaker 2: this is a whole multi media company, that's right, So

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Speaker 2: tell us.

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Speaker 1: What that is.

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Speaker 3: Sure? So one Complus is an olding company, so we've

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Speaker 3: got rodings soon Africa. We also have a new company

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Speaker 3: called Flavors. So Flavors is a music label that we

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Speaker 3: set up for up and coming artists on the continent

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Speaker 3: but also from the das for us, so our aim

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Speaker 3: is to sign up to one hundred thousand artists within

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Speaker 3: the next twenty four months.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Wow.

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Speaker 3: We've got an established relationship with a number of governments.

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Speaker 3: So in Nja, for instance, we work closely with ubi Asika,

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Speaker 3: So just in Nigeria alone, we will be signing thirty

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Speaker 2: So and so what services do you guys then provide

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Speaker 2: with Flavors.

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Speaker 3: So we we've signed a partnership with the Old Child,

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Speaker 3: which is the distribution arm of Sunny Music. And the

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Speaker 3: aim is really to help artists to you know, get

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Speaker 3: looking for the next the video on COO really wants.

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Speaker 1: Who has been on a cover on Africa? Absolutely fact, okay,

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Speaker 3: So yes. So the aim is really to support like

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Speaker 3: talented artists that are not really you know, that probably

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Speaker 2: What is your background, just to get a better idea

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Speaker 2: who there is that has led you to this space.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that you help artists, promote artists,

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Speaker 3: Sure, no, that's a good question. So I mean my

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Speaker 3: A big boy, that's right. So shout out to fantasticald

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Speaker 2: I used to work with Crazy Legs and rock Steady Crew.

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Speaker 1: You're still breakdown space.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know, obviously not anymore, but I

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Speaker 4: How I feel like you could how did that transition.

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Speaker 4: So it's where we are now with with like supporting

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, for sure. I mean, you know, growing

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Speaker 2: Rappers, like who are some of your favorites growing up?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, Now I love this because I also

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Speaker 2: have seen so many people and I know that you're

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Speaker 3: That's right, the diplomatic passport actually from Guinea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a diplomatic past, but it's not dual

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Speaker 3: Sure, so essentially they don't the DNA taste test. And

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Speaker 1: And Sierra was up here.

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Speaker 2: She was talking about Roneston, Africa because she was also

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Speaker 3: She went to Billinie. We we went with her to Benin.

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Speaker 2: Diamond plants has been up here and he is he

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Speaker 3: He was active.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think that there's also a lot

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, in Tanzania, yes, because that was the election there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, we think it's bad here. Do you

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Speaker 2: like I want to ask you this, do you are

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Speaker 2: just you know, as somebody from that's you know, born

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Speaker 3: I would say, it's very interesting right now what's happening

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Speaker 2: But that's why I'm saying, I want to know what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think he's like, let me, I

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Speaker 3: That's why I want to go back here. Now, I

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Speaker 3: would say, like, you know, people are probably looking at

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Speaker 1: Now it's not a good time. That's wait three years

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Speaker 3: But you know, the US is still the US, so

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, ultimately people also can see through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be like let's just put it on

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Speaker 4: But you know what I do, I hope that people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, well, especially in Africa, people have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think now? Music industry wise?

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Speaker 2: What are some things that you have seen as far

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Speaker 2: much as far as how we distribute artists, how artists

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would say, like, you know, especially with

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Speaker 3: Rolling Soon Africa can fill that gap. And one thing

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Speaker 3: coming years is more collaboration between American artists and African

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I've seen the progress.

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Speaker 2: we look at all of those things, Africa has definitely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've seen like how exponentially that growth has

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Speaker 3: Other No, that's the story of my life, to be fair,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, but also coming to New York actually, because I

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Speaker 4: What languages do you speak?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, so we need to collaborate as well, you know,

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Speaker 4: We have Africa well, definitely definitely season two of the

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Speaker 1: And I found out my roots are in Nigeria. Okay, great,

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Speaker 3: You should come for a fashion week or something.

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Speaker 2: I heard Nigeria is comparable to New York. That's what

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think I think culturally, yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, culturally that's what she works with me. She's Nigerian

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Speaker 3: For sure, I agree with you, I say so much

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Speaker 2: But again, do you I think how can people find

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Speaker 2: How to just spell it from how you say it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much. We appreciate thank

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Speaker 2: you for coming here and making time for us. I

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Speaker 2: know we've been trying to work this out for months.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: But anything that you have going on, let us know

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Speaker 2: so that we can always amplify that too.

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Speaker 3: We'll do for sure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay, well,