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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, and Kyle Yeoman's.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's a new Tuesday edition of the Draft Show

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Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage Studios, as always presented by

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Speaker 1: Miller Light As the Senior Bowl is now in the

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Speaker 1: rear view mirror. Next up the NFL Combine. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's not happening this year, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: break it down regardless. Here on the Draft Show, We've

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Speaker 1: got Bucky Brooks, Bryant brought us David Hellman, I'm Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back doing fantastic work as always,

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Speaker 1: as we are now eighty three days out, gentlemen from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft that is supposed to be held in Cleveland, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: and well, the Senior Bowl was held in Mobile, Alabama

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days in a concluded their

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Speaker 1: festivitis festivities rather on Saturday, and one credit to Jim

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Speaker 1: Nage and company of getting the Senior Bowl all the

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Speaker 1: way through with only one positive COVID test over thirty

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Speaker 1: four hundred and ministered throughout the week down in Mobile.

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Speaker 1: Two a really great showing for a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that we're going to kind of break down, some of

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Speaker 1: which that may be wearing stars on the side of

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, you got a chance to break it down

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, and you get to come back on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So what were your overall thoughts of the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: and some things that you saw down in Mobile. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was great that they were

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Speaker 1: think it was probably the most important Senior Bowl that

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Speaker 1: we've seen, and sometime without the combine, without a lot

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Speaker 1: of these private workouts, this is the last time that

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Speaker 1: you were going to get guys get a chance to

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Speaker 1: see guys play ball. And I think there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of players down there that helped themselves. I think

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Speaker 1: you're going to have a faction enough scouts to kind

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Speaker 1: of lean on the players that played most recently, and

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Speaker 1: that lasting impression from the Senior Bowl is really going

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Speaker 1: to impact the way draft boards are stacked around the league. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that Buck, Yeah, I think Bucky's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you start to talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned in the open kind of what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen with the lack of the combine. And again,

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Speaker 1: tip of the cap to Jim Naggy and the staff,

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Speaker 1: Tip of the cap to the players, the coaches from

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Speaker 1: Caroline in Miami for putting on a great show. It

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Speaker 1: was a very competitive game, and I think there were

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Speaker 1: you've evaluated kids that might have been a fifth round

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Speaker 1: grade going in and now maybe hey, a good Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl helped him and elevated him. Maybe it's kind of

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Speaker 1: into a third round status. Now, maybe you weren't too

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Speaker 1: sure about kids from a smaller school. You know, we

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Speaker 1: all learned about an offensive lineman from Whitewater, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously it's an unprecedented Senior Bowls. You know, Brian, you

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Speaker 1: And you may not hold those things differently, but you

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Speaker 1: think that Matt Rule and Brian Flores kind of stole

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Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifteen or so players, they really

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Speaker 1: Buckie's absolutely right too. You know, when you look at

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Speaker 1: I had the how do I want to phrase it,

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Speaker 1: I like I was blown away by Matt Rule, is

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to write to the point where you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you think back to last year when

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Speaker 1: experienced guy. You know, Mike McCarthy arguably the most experienced option,

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Speaker 1: in college at multiple different places, I'm just not going

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Speaker 1: to be surprised if he winds up being a very,

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Speaker 1: very successful head coach. Yeah, I'm gonna give you guys

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Speaker 1: a little insight. He was surprised he didn't get an

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Speaker 1: you know he's but you hate that looking kid physically,

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Speaker 1: I mean really good looking kid. Hey, Bucky, if I

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Speaker 1: could go back to you, the kid that kind of

433
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Speaker 1: caught my eye was the Michael Carter kid from North Carolina. Though, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where where do you see him? You know where? I

435
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Speaker 1: mean a lot of people really like him, but where

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Speaker 1: do you kind of see him in the in the

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Speaker 1: in the mixing thing? Because I know people are bashing

438
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Speaker 1: running backs now, you don't want to take him high.

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Speaker 1: Is this one of those kids that's going to fit

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Speaker 1: into the mix Because I liked what I saw the

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Speaker 1: power with this kid running the football. You know, it's

442
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Speaker 1: funny Brian and watching North Carolina Javonta Williams is to

443
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Speaker 1: do like Javonta Williams is the one. Michael Carter would start,

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Speaker 1: Javontay Williams would come in. Javonta Williams finished the year

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Speaker 1: where maybe twenty two twenty three touchdowns, has more explosiveness

446
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Speaker 1: in those things. I thought it was actually good for

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Speaker 1: Michael Carter to be away from North Carolina, to get

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Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl and be able to have the

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Speaker 1: stage to himself because he is a lot better than

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Speaker 1: even I give him for his ballast and shifting this

451
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Speaker 1: inside is terrific, but then his natural ability to catch

452
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Speaker 1: the ball on the edge. I think he's someone where

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Speaker 1: the sweet spot for running backs. In my mind, day two, second,

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Speaker 1: third round, I think he's in that mix. I think

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Speaker 1: he has the ability to potentially be in every down

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Speaker 1: guy because in pass protection he was not afraid to

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Speaker 1: stick his nose in the fan, and that is it's

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Speaker 1: hard to find guys that can get that part of

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Speaker 1: the game. I think he's more than just a change

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Speaker 1: of pace prospect. I love that saying, Bucky, but every

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Speaker 1: time you say it, stick your nose in the fan.

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Speaker 1: It makes me like, just imagine getting my nose hit

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Speaker 1: by a fan, and I don't want to. I'm not

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. You you would have to take

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Speaker 1: come out with three first round picks. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: as always, and we do have some crazy scenarios to

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Speaker 1: show chiming in lots of great questions again as always,

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Speaker 1: I mean really throughout the entirety of the Draft Show.

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Speaker 1: This is episode fifteen already of the Draft Show. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's seven for you guys or eight

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Speaker 1: for you guys, but it's fifteen for me, which is

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Speaker 1: crazy to think about. So Mark Bristow, he says, Friend

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Speaker 1: of the Show, Mark Bristow worked the draft trade chart

532
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Speaker 1: and came out with three first rounders and a third rounder.

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Speaker 1: So he was trying to do some work to get

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys back up a little bit further in the

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Speaker 1: draft board. Now, I know that's completely unrealistic, and so

536
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Speaker 1: does everybody think that here, but it's something like that

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Speaker 1: more preferable than the ten picks they have scattered throughout

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft with the compics that they have to

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Speaker 1: work with. When you talk about the Dallas Cowboys, David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure I'm following what you're asking? So, like,

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Speaker 1: are we what are we? We're talking about trading up

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Speaker 1: or trading away from the tenth pick. So he wants

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Speaker 1: to keep the tenth pick and then take the ten

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Speaker 1: picks that we have collectively and somehow work away to

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Speaker 1: three first rounders and a third rounder. Does that make sense? Oh?

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Speaker 1: So that's so that's all you have is those four picks, yes,

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Speaker 1: instead of the ten? What are we? I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: no way those other, like eight or nine picks are

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Speaker 1: gonna be enough to get you two more first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we giving up that gets you that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what trade he's looking at. I

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Speaker 1: think it would have to be it would have to

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Speaker 1: be future ones. I mean, to get to have three

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Speaker 1: first round picks, you gotta be talking about giving up

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Speaker 1: future ones or players. Maybe. In general, I'm the first

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Speaker 1: to say, like as far as like I really only

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Speaker 1: truly care about first through fourth round picks, like top

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. Those are the picks that matter.

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Speaker 1: Those are the picks that really, you know, build your roster.

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Speaker 1: Everything else is kind of a crapshoot. So if you

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Speaker 1: can get me more valuable picks. I'm down to get

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Speaker 1: rid of some of those lesser ones. The problem is,

563
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Speaker 1: the lesser ones aren't worth that much. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to trade a few of them and maybe get

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Speaker 1: me an extra third or I don't know, maybe an

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Speaker 1: extra second, I'm all for it. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: three first round picks. You got to give up way

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Speaker 1: more than just your other nine. Sure do that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's very realistic. Yeah, I think that if

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Speaker 1: you know, if you really want to go up in

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Speaker 1: this draft, I mean, all you really have to do

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Speaker 1: is give up if you want to go to the

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Speaker 1: five spot. Now, Cincinnati historically is a different team to

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Speaker 1: trade with because when you call Duke Tobin and those

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Speaker 1: guys on the phone, they say, hey, nice to hear

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Speaker 1: from you, Brian, Okay, thanks for calling, and you need

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Speaker 1: to ever hear from them again, you know, three days

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Speaker 1: of the draft. Everybody else you talk to multiple times.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati is one of those teams at five. If you

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Speaker 1: were interested in going that high, that would only cost

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Speaker 1: you forty four that the you know, your second round pick,

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Speaker 1: so you know you're thinking about a four hundred point

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Speaker 1: difference right there. Those are the kinds of trades I

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Speaker 1: would think about maybe trying to go up in the

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Speaker 1: first round if you're interested. I mean, you might be

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Speaker 1: in a situation where we need to see what happens

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback. I know it's a broken record, you know. Really,

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Speaker 1: March ninth, to me is kind of a drop dead

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Speaker 1: day for the Cowboys if we go back on this tag.

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Speaker 1: The last day you can tag a player is on

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Speaker 1: March tenth if they don't have a contract done by

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Speaker 1: March ninth. I am seriously thinking about evaluating quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 1: really am. I don't know if I can. I could

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Speaker 1: go another year and just say, okay, fine, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll play on the tag again, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: and try and do this all over again. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you can do business that way, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys might think that's necessary to do. But if

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Speaker 1: you're going to go up, you need to go up,

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Speaker 1: and to get in the top five, you want to

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Speaker 1: to potentially get one of these quarterbacks. Can I hijack

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Speaker 1: this for one? Secon Kyle, I want to hijack this? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's the right term,

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Speaker 1: but that's fine. We all saw. We all saw what

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Speaker 1: happened with the Rams and the Lions trading Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: for Jared Goff, and it got me thinking. It got

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Speaker 1: me thinking about some hypotheticals. Bucky or and Brian, both

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Speaker 1: of you. Kyle too sweet, if Miami, if Miami offered

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Speaker 1: you the third overall pick, the eighties overall pick and

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Speaker 1: two ah for Dak, would you do it? I would. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If we get to March ninth and we don't have

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Speaker 1: him signed, yeah, sure, I'd absolutely think about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll see you what. To be honest with you, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Rams took the Rams gave up multiple

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Speaker 1: ones or gave up a one just so the Lions

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Speaker 1: would take a bad contract. That's why they gave up.

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Speaker 1: You know, Less snead those guys, I mean less, Less

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Speaker 1: does it. Less trust his pro evaluations of established players

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Speaker 1: more than he does drafting players. Even though he drafted

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you know he that was that was one

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Speaker 1: of the best picks ever made. But Less trust his

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Speaker 1: pro evaluations of established players more than he does the

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Speaker 1: players they can draft. But they had to kick that

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Speaker 1: one so that Detroit would take that bad contract of golf.

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Speaker 1: So you're not in a situation where you have to

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Speaker 1: do that if you're anybody else. But yeah, you give

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Speaker 1: me an opportunity. I don't have a quarterback signed. You

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Speaker 1: give me three, you give me eighteen, you trade me

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Speaker 1: to a Now we need to know what the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: think about TOAs medical condition. You know, maybe they didn't

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Speaker 1: like the hip, you know, I mean we need to

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Speaker 1: ask if that would be the case. But yeah, with

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Speaker 1: the third with the third pick, you could absolutely draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback if you wanted to. You could you could

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Speaker 1: draft any defensive player you wanted to. You could take

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Speaker 1: any offensive lineman you wanted to. Bucky's smiling all right now, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like, and I know it's weird because

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Speaker 1: I come from the college scouting thing and I should

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Speaker 1: be in love with picks. Man, give me players over

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Speaker 1: picks all day. I kind of like to know what

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Speaker 1: I have, what I'm getting, And I think, okay, thanks, thanks.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think if i'm if I'm

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Speaker 1: less sneed and those guys, I understand the fascination. I'm

644
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: not saying that maybe Matthew Stafford is that guy. We'll see,

645
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: but I do understand it has worked for them when

646
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: they've made these when they've made these, they don't like drafting, Buckie.

647
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: They don't like draft don't players. Well, look, if we're

648
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: talking about it being a fifty fifty coin flip in

649
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: terms of a first round pick turning into like not

650
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: only a legitimate starter, but a star player. If I

651
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: can get one that, I know Jalen Ramsey's gonna be

652
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: a shut down corner. I bring him and you put

653
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: him into sinstem he plays like that, I'm good. If

654
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I can even snatch, Like if I can snatch Brandon

655
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Cooks and he can give me the deep thread of building,

656
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: we end up in the super Bowl because he averaged

657
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: fifteen yards of catch, I'm okay with that. I think

658
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: what they've been able to do is they've hit him

659
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: those mid round guys. But part of the reason why

660
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: those mid round guys hit is because the stars are

661
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: so overwhelming, and so they're not putting roles that put

662
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: them out of their comfort zone. And so I don't know, like,

663
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I think it's great that we well like was behind

664
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: doing number one, two and three. But yeah, yeah, players,

665
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: you've said that before, and and I don't disagree with you.

666
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: The thing about this is, though you're you're in a

667
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a salary cap league, and we're all

668
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, they've had to eat some

669
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: dead money on a running back. They're eating dead money

670
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: on a quarterback. Now, eventually you wonder, you know, let's

671
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: need has taken the attitude of if I just get

672
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: rid of all these picks and it doesn't work and

673
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: I get fired, this is somebody else's problem. It's not

674
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: my problem anymore. This is Bucky Brooks coming in and

675
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: running Bucky. Bucky'll be sitting there like, oh wow, I'm

676
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: running a team now with no picks. I guess I'm

677
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna get fired in three years now. Let's players looking

678
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: at this very moment. Yeah, let's let's just I mean,

679
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: I talked the least I talked to last when he

680
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: was working with you, Fisher. I talked to Less. I go, hey, man,

681
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: how you hold up. He's like, man, I'm gonna get fired.

682
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what do you mean? He goes, oh,

683
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, he goes, Bruten's gonna come in here. He's

684
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna blow us all out. I'm like, huh okay. He

685
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: goes from getting blown out to get like a five

686
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: year contract. But you know what. That urgency Bright, that

687
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: urgency has enabled him to keep his job because I've

688
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: never seen a guy. I've never seen a guy more scared.

689
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy more scared and taking first

690
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: round picks than him. It's amazing. I mean that tackle

691
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: he took from Albert back in the day, that a

692
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: kid third overall whatever might have just scared him so

693
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: bad that he can't Oh, I don't want to draft it.

694
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah about the third quarterback? How about the quarterback that

695
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: he just begged the Lions to take off his hands too?

696
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: The number one overall pick. Yeah, I will say this,

697
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: I love I still get me wrong. They have They

698
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: have dumped on Jerry Goff like in a major, major way.

699
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: And I will say that Sean McVeigh has a lot

700
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: of John rooting to them where they fall in and

701
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: out of love really really quickly. And I just wonder,

702
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: like people have caught up to the scheme, and I

703
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: just wonder when he looks around, he's like, hey man,

704
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: the X and no's aren't popping like they used to.

705
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I gotta swap out people. But at some point you're

706
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna look at the coach and we're like, well, maybe

707
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's not the people, maybe it's the coach. Yeah,

708
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: and then again you want to go coach there again,

709
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: but you have no first round picks. I mean, hey, okay, fine,

710
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: that's great. But like I said, hey, this this this

711
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: whole thing with the Cowboys. Seriously, I would look, if

712
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy fan and you're listening to this show,

713
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: March ninth is a day you need to circle on

714
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: your calendar. Brian, I am obviously right there with you,

715
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: because I mean, I have a sticky note on my

716
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: laptop for everybody watching. I don't know if you can

717
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: watch this, you're not gonna see it. I gotta sticky

718
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: note to the dates. Hold it to your left. Yeah,

719
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: well it's it's you can't see it right now, but

720
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: everybody at home can. But I've got a date now

721
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: and and all of it's the all of the offseason dates,

722
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: all the way down to the NFL Draft, And the

723
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: only one I have in a box, it's the Franchise

724
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: in Transition tag period deadline, because I think that's the

725
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: most important date in the DAK contract era. And Dave,

726
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: you asked this question earlier, and I'm gonna look like

727
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hypocrite here because I sat

728
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys yesterday morning and said, it's so hard

729
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: to find a franchise quarterback that you'd have to put

730
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: together a pretty sweet package in order to do so.

731
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: And we were talking about Deshaun Watson in the case.

732
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: But if you told me that I had the third

733
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: overall pick, the tenth overall pick, the eighteenth overall pick,

734
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: and two a Tunga Vloa, I think I would do

735
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: it because that, I mean, you're giving me Pina soul

736
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: Patrick's ertan Christian Barmore and a young quarterback on a

737
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: rookie deal that I could go and try and find

738
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: some other pieces to go around. Oh my gosh, I

739
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: would be all for that. But I've also I mean,

740
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm a draft at the same time, I think you

741
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: have to still consider drafting a quarterback with that third

742
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: overall pick, if even with two just that's just yeah, absolutely,

743
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's early, but I wasn't blown away by

744
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: what I saw from two over the second half of

745
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: last season. But I'm with you though I'm I'm the

746
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: king of the keep Dak bandwagon. I want Dak on

747
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: this team. I agree, But you're falling off the bandwagon. No,

748
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: that's just a hell treguing, Brian. You're Brian. You are

749
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: the king of like, investigating, educating. You gotta consider all angles.

750
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: And if you're telling me that's the package, if you're

751
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: giving me two first round picks and a young quarterback

752
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: on a rookie deal, that's really hard to I'm just saying.

753
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. If you're a Cowboy fan, yeah, you

754
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: you probably don't want Dak to be traded. You want

755
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Dak to be signed, you do, you do want him

756
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: to get signed, but they have messed this thing up

757
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: for two years. Yeah, well now was so messed up

758
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: that what's going to happen is like when you signed him,

759
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: you can sign him to a major deal. That is like,

760
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, almost a one hundred per send more

761
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: than what could have got him done three years ago

762
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: if you'd just been proactive. And when you can't add

763
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: pieces around them, everyone's gonna blame the quarterback. And so

764
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: just because I mean, I can't really understand why it

765
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: went like the other guys get their money before the

766
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: quarterback because most of them don't operate like that. But

767
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: now you're in a situation. I do wonder, given what

768
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: we know about teams playing with quarterbacks on rookie deals,

769
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: who is going to be the bull general manager that

770
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: treats the NFL game like college, where you recruit those guys.

771
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: You're there, you're on their station right now. Yeah, because

772
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: this general manager doesn't have to worry about paying for

773
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: his lake house. The rest of us that we're doing this,

774
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I'm gonna lose my job. I'm

775
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: gonna lose my job if I make this move. A

776
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: team that has a general manager that's not going to

777
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: get fired New England, Dallas, they're going to They're gonna

778
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: be the first team to say, no, we're not gonna

779
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: pay somebody forty million dollars because it's gonna keep turning

780
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: this thing over. Because because Marian, depending on who your coach, like,

781
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: just think about it. Like it's almost like the way

782
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: when I was in Caroline, the way we treat a

783
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: running backs draft one high right them to the wheels

784
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: fall off in year four, draft another one because year

785
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: five we're letting the guy go with quarterbacks. If you

786
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: have a quarterback friendly system, like say the Shanahan system,

787
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: that makes everybody look like a really good quarterback if

788
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: you're just plugging and playing, and then I'm guaranteed to

789
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: get all the stars around them. Like I'm waiting for

790
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: someone to say, like, hey, I'll do I'll take this

791
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: different approach. Yeah. This is why when we keep talking

792
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: about drafting offensive linemen for the Cowboys, every be goes, oh,

793
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: they need defensive help. I'm thinking, nah, because you might

794
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: have a new quarterback. You know, you might have to

795
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, you've got all these weapons at receivers, you

796
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: got two quality tied ends it look like. But man,

797
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: your offensive line, that might be the lifeblood to keep

798
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: things going. You know. Yeah, yeah, you need defensive help.

799
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: But a defensive help is not as good as the

800
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: offensive line that you're gonna look at it right now.

801
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but Brian Dallas could be

802
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: the first team. Yeah. If the Cowboys offensive line was

803
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: healthy this year, I think they have three more wins.

804
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: I really do. I think they have three more wins.

805
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: In the middle of that, if the Cowboys have it,

806
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: and then you get in, you're indivision. If Dak doesn't

807
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: get hurt, well, yeah, okay, that's fair. I didn't even

808
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: throw Dak's injury in there, but I'm saying I mean,

809
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: like healthy offensive line is important. Yeah, healthy offensive line

810
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: would have given them an opportunity to really win more game. Sure, yeah,

811
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: even with the Dak injury. I could talk about this

812
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: all day, I really could. I think this is a

813
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: fantastic conversation I'm learning just from listening to you guys.

814
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: And then plus I mean as somebody who's heavily invested

815
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys even as a fan growing up, I

816
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: mean this is this is conversations you don't necessarily want

817
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: to hear, but you have to have these conversations in

818
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: an NFL front office. You have to have that mentality

819
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: of looking at your options and true and look around.

820
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: I never, I never thought I would hear David Helman

821
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: punt on deck Press like, look, hey, hey, hey, that

822
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: clause and the easter bunny don't exists. They do need

823
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: to pay my teeth under the pillow because the tooth

824
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: fairy doesn't. David Helman is punting on him deck Press.

825
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Let Kyle is absolutely right, just like you, you have

826
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: to you have to have every conversation, You have to

827
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: consider every angle. You got to if not loved my

828
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: favorite thing about the Draft show is dragging you guys

829
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: in the UK with I have nobody to blame for

830
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: this but myself. You're the one that Hicky buck He's

831
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: trying to be strong. Ye, Bucky's trying to be strong. Dave,

832
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: he folded like a NA. That's Brian, You're such You're

833
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: such a liar, Bro, You're such a liar. You're the

834
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: You're the trade king. You want to trade everybody. He's

835
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: gonna get off this broadcast. He's gonna go, good, what

836
00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: did I do? St oh man? But I love how

837
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: like Brian's even the one that was like, yeah, after

838
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: a certain date, let's do it, let's figure this thing out.

839
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: But then if then he just he just tagonized. Davis

840
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: tried to trade. Yeah, Bryan's tried to trade every good

841
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: player on this team at some point in the last

842
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: like five years. I mean, do you blame him? Signed?

843
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. I gotta get just numbers, just

844
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: numbers on jerseys days, right, don't buy a jersey with

845
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: the name on the back, holding the stand jersey no

846
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: name on the back? Oh man, all right, I do

847
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: want to ask one more question, because we've only asked

848
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: one question on Twitter on the twenty But that was

849
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: so fun. That's so fun. That's fair. Uh. David Leach

850
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: and Jay I'm gonna actually combine their questions here. They

851
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: both asked about a vertical threat at wide receiver, saying

852
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys could definitely use one, maybe a Tyreek

853
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Kill type of player, not Tyreek Kill comp or anything,

854
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: but somebody that's kind of a later pick in the

855
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: draft that could turn out to be a burner at

856
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Anybody stick out to you, Bucky in terms

857
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: of some of those burners at wide receiver, and somebody

858
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys might potentially be interested in putting in

859
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: this offense. You know, it's hard because they have so

860
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: much firepower already. But here's what I would say, And

861
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to hijack the conversation, but I do

862
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: have a strong belief coming from the Green Bay. I

863
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever need to really go heavy

864
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Like there's so many guys that you

865
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: find in later rounds. Tyreek Hill was a fifth round pick.

866
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Some of that was due to the character concerns. I

867
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: think it's just a matter of scouting your room. Do

868
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: you have a great teacher at wide receiver, at the

869
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach position, and can they developed because I

870
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: think those Burners, those guys that stressed to feel I

871
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: don't know if you really need to invest significant money

872
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: in that position or significant draft capital in the Sorry, Bucky, Yeah,

873
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm with yeah, No, I'm you know, Bucky.

874
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: You know he and I grew up in the same system.

875
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: And you know the thing with the wide receivers, I'm

876
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: really happy they got set Lamb. I think they're gonna

877
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be able to keep Michael Gallop.

878
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna have to you know, you're probably gonna

879
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: move on. Maybe he's a guy that you know, if

880
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: you if you feel like that you are going to

881
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: pick a wide receiver, you have one in mind that

882
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: you want to take. Maybe you maybe take that opportunity

883
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: to get something from Michael Gallop if you can right now,

884
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: and then drafts replacement. I without really knowing times, but

885
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at some of these receivers,

886
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: and the kid that kind of stood out was at

887
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl was the Amory Rogers kid from Climson. Yeah,

888
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: and you know, and I was thinking, like, Okay, what

889
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: is he? Is he at five night? I mean, he's

890
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: a good I mean he's a shorter guy, but he's thick,

891
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: and I've kind of watching him. But I watched Clemson

892
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: tape and I'm watching him make plays down the field.

893
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching him make plays underneath. I'm watching him. Do

894
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: you know all these things? Sure you can, you can

895
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: go out and you know, and maybe even if you're

896
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: talking about I don't know, is he a second round guy?

897
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: Is he a third round guy? You know I'm trying

898
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: to later in the draft. I mean, yeah, that's that's

899
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: a crapshoot. You know, when you start talking about those,

900
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: maybe you're just drapped in traits. I haven't seen anybody

901
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: got to the point where it's been laid enough where

902
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I say, oh wow, this kid really runs well. But

903
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: he's inconsistent. I can that. The guy that kind of

904
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: caught my eye was was was Rogers at the Senior Bowl.

905
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: But watching Rogers on Clemson tape this year, I thought

906
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: he would had a pretty a pretty good campaign. Michael,

907
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: A little bit earlier than what we're talking about right now.

908
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: For what we're looking for, I would just um, I

909
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: mean if you're I mean, since we're talking about the

910
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, you got to mention Dwayne Esker and he

911
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: was another. I mean, you talk about guys that raised

912
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: their stock, the Western Michigan wide out, polished, just beat

913
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: up on a lot of guys last week. Seems like

914
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: a really great route runner. I don't know if he's

915
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill fast, but how many people really are?

916
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: And I mean, if you want to talk about short

917
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: guys that are really fast, Rondel Moore come to mind

918
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: as well. Um Tony from Florida two another. Yeah, so yeah,

919
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: those those guys definitely exist. I mean I'm always down

920
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: to take a flyer on a guy. Yeah. I mean,

921
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to spend a huge resource on a

922
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: receiver this year unless you're telling me we're trading Michael Gallup. Um.

923
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean if you could get one of

924
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: those guys in the fourth round or later on, that's

925
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: fine with me. Can I get you guys to get

926
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: on the Dimitric Felton go for it? Bucky Dimitric Field

927
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: from UCLA pass, Yeah, because he's like I mean, he's

928
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: a running back between he's gonna play, They're gonna played.

929
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Wide receiver, right, Yeah, But I think like if you're

930
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: talking about Dallas and specific Mike McCarthy, he has that

931
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Ramba Cobb type of stuff to him. So if you're

932
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: thinking about that, I don't know. Yeah, Like in terms

933
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: of vertical threat, it's hard because like this dis draft

934
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: is different because you have a bunch of guys that

935
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: can play, but I don't know, like two to at

936
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: Will from Louisville can take the top off it, but

937
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: he's a little and I just don't know what are

938
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: the considerations when it comes to thin receivers because I'm

939
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: not really a big fan of the skinny news on

940
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: the outside. That's that's hard for me. I think that's

941
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: kind of what the questions asking is. They kind of

942
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: want those smaller burner type of receivers that you could

943
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: get late in the draft, And like Dave said, I

944
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys are going to spend any kind

945
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: of valuable draft capital on a wide receiver this year.

946
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: That's why I want all all of us to get

947
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: on the the Jalen Garden bandwagon. If I mean, please

948
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: come aboard for the Jalen Garden to Dallas bandwagon. I'm

949
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna tweet that probably every day for the rest of

950
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: the draft process, but I want that to happen so badly.

951
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny all those all those shorter wide

952
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: receivers were talking about are kind of looked together though

953
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: as far as ability goes, Like you say, the Produe kid,

954
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: the Florida kid, you know, because they're all kind of

955
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: the same realm, I mean with the with ability and

956
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and they're all short. So you know, well,

957
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, how does that all kids sorted out by

958
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: the clubs? As we go forward? It is gonna be

959
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 1: interesting started with the shorter guys. I know it's harder

960
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: with the shorter guys. And I know I missed you

961
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: guys DeVante Smith conversation because I'm fascinated about where he

962
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: gets picked because it kind of goes against everything that

963
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot. Oh, you don't like that, you

964
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: talked about that. You don't like that hund seventy pound body,

965
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: huh not in the top ten where he's been talking

966
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, I don't like that take. Yeah, I

967
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he's I don't think he's

968
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: fast like that either, Like I don't think he's I

969
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's four three ish. Do you think you

970
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: think he runs like four or five four or five

971
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: two four or five one? I think yeah, I think

972
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: he's four five two. If he runs, he may run.

973
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: You like wattle. You like wattle better than you more bursts.

974
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think a lot of people are

975
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: going to feel that way. Yeah, like once people start,

976
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: once people start weighing in, and everybody's so little. Hey, hey,

977
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: I just remember I was influenced by Remember, yeah, like

978
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: remember how bad Remember how bad Tom Brady's combine picture? Look,

979
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: just think about that trick about how narrow and Thinny looked.

980
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't play wide receivers. Smith is gonna look

981
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: the same. He's gonna look the exact same, Brian, Like,

982
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: we haven't seen many guys like that that have come

983
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: into the league and dominated. And those who had well,

984
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison was built, Like how

985
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: many drafts have we had And that's the only name

986
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: we can bring up, though I brought up a Hall

987
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: of Famer man, what else? Why we've been like the

988
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: league Merson was sixty seven, sixty eight and we got

989
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: one guy that we talk about, Marvin Harrison. Yeah, like

990
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: and I would say Buck Bucky. Feel free. Feel free

991
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: when all the media you're doing and someone goes, well,

992
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: who does Smith remind you of? And you'll go, you

993
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: know guys, I mean like I guess, but like not

994
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: really he's a strider. I don't really know who he

995
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: compares to Sean Jackson because he's not fast like Deshan Jackson.

996
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Jacks can fly. Yeah. I know this is dangerous and

997
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: we always tell people not to do it, like you

998
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: know where you went to? Why are you doing it?

999
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: Because because I feel very confident betting on an Alabama

1000
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: stud receiver. That's what I That's why. Because they they

1001
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: just clang out badass after badass. Here's helmet. You hear

1002
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: the scouting helmet. Okay, butt to a degree, that's true.

1003
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: But if you are good enough to be the top

1004
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: dog at that school, with who they practice against, who

1005
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: they recruit, and who they play, I'm comfortable betting that

1006
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be pretty damn good. Yeah. I think I

1007
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: may take a what do y'all eat down there at

1008
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: water Burger? I think I may take a water Burger?

1009
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Bet on that? All right? We're talking about Dave. Dave.

1010
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna try to push Dady. He's gonna try pushing

1011
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: in and out on You don't do it in it.

1012
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys just I don't need trash.

1013
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: You don't have the tallet. You don't have the tallet.

1014
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Is different. Oh we gotta get here. Gosh.

1015
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: He puts it on lettuces in the boat. It's one

1016
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: of the paper boats. Oh my gosh. Okay, we're gonna

1017
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,280
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1021
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Speaker 1: But when we come back, some guys who saw their

1022
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: saw their draft stock drop a little bit, and man, Bucky,

1023
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Speaker 1: dot com Draft Show. Back here on the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot com Draft Show, presented by Miller Litte as always,

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Speaker 1: and well, we're going into the final segment here, and

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot to talk about of the draft,

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Speaker 1: but I just really quickly want to talk about my

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Speaker 1: excitement and the fact that the NC DOUBLEA football video

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Speaker 1: games are coming back from me A Sports. I am

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Speaker 1: pumped about that, and talk about college football and NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: I love Madden and all of that stuff. And so

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Speaker 1: if you're an NFL or NC double A fan and

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Speaker 1: a gamer at the same time, this is a day

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Speaker 1: to be rejoicing, but really quickly, guys. I mean we've

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Speaker 1: got about five minutes before we're overtime. I know we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go over. Sorry Chris, but Brian, any guys that

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Speaker 1: stuck out at the Senior Bowl that did not necessarily

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Speaker 1: help their drafts dot just from their performance down at

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Speaker 1: the down in Mobile. Yeah, you know, I'm really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to getting the tape. But you know, if you

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Speaker 1: watch some of the one on one stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: from the practices and stuff. I was really interested because

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Speaker 1: last week I talked about Alex Leatherwood from Alabama, and

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Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking, like, could he elevate himself

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Speaker 1: to where he would be in that conversation with those

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Speaker 1: those tough guys, those top guys. And you know, if

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Speaker 1: you watch the practices, there were some losses of one

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Speaker 1: on one and that's not Alex Leatherwood's game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that generally has a nice set, keeps

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Speaker 1: his head out of his block, you know, doesn't get

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Speaker 1: over extended, can get to the outside, can show some

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Speaker 1: range and stuff like that. But I was a little

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Speaker 1: worried about him and some of the things I saw.

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel like he anchored down like he did

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Speaker 1: on Alabama tape. Again, this is one on one stuff.

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Speaker 1: Need to watch the tape of the game to kind

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Speaker 1: of get a little bit better picture. But I was hopeful.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, Man, he's going to go and just

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Speaker 1: blow this thing out of the park. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be right up there with all those other guys that

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Speaker 1: were talking about and I think it was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of an eye opener for

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Speaker 1: some scouts watching him practice. We'll see how the game

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Speaker 1: tape looked. Yeah, you talk about Leatherwood, I would go

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Outside of Mac Jones, everyone was kind

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Speaker 1: of up and down. I think Kellen Man was probably

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Speaker 1: the best of the crew outside of Mac Jones because

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Speaker 1: he won MVP. But Jamie Newman was one that I

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Speaker 1: felt like really hurt himself didn't play this year after

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Speaker 1: transferring to Georgia. There was a lot of excitement and

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Speaker 1: intrigue about him when he was playing it Way Forest

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Speaker 1: because there was a dual threat. He had size. He

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Speaker 1: just layed the athleticism. But then when you watched him

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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, maybe he was rusted because he

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Speaker 1: had a year off a lot of interceptions and just

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Speaker 1: didn't have the timing that you want to see from

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't know if it I don't I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to affect his draft stock,

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Speaker 1: But I was bummed for Mac Jones that he had

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Speaker 1: that ankle problem that kept him from doing as much

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Speaker 1: and just speak. I mean, you're talking probably a first

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Speaker 1: round pick anyway, but if you come out and light

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Speaker 1: the world on fire, then you've really set yourself up

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Speaker 1: to potentially go in the top half of the first round. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, with the season that he had, I

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Speaker 1: don't think having a limited Senior Bowl is going to

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Speaker 1: stop that from happening. But if he had gone out

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Speaker 1: and really had a great week, then you know, he

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Speaker 1: would have been the talk of the draft cycle for

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Speaker 1: at least a couple of weeks. Does anybody have him

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Speaker 1: over Trey Lance? You think? I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: would probably need to watch Trey Lance a little bit

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Speaker 1: more to have a great answer to that. But Bucky

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Speaker 1: you feel that way, maybe maybe some people might have

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones over him. I don't know. I think I

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Speaker 1: think what Mac Jones is gonna do is Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is gonna win the interview his intangibles, he worked hard

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I think the hard thing with Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: and others will be separating his production from his supporting casts,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you hate all you hate all the

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Speaker 1: Alabama wide receivers, so you have he SI, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do that. Hey, We're gonna do this again. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't think that one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five pound wide house can come in the

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Speaker 1: league and dominate them. I don't know if we have

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Speaker 1: a history of that in the league. We'll see, Like

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Speaker 1: I just play the odds. I mean, I heard that

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Speaker 1: played Marvin Harrison. I was pretty good. I've heard that

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Speaker 1: a couple times. Can I get another one? Can I

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Speaker 1: get another one? Can scout? As a scout you were taught.

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Speaker 1: If you saw it one time, you get to see

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Speaker 1: it all the time, right, Hey, I real quick, I'll

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Speaker 1: just say, and I mean, I haven't studied Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: in in depth, but I've seen enough of them to know, uh,

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Speaker 1: the armed talent and the athleticism. I'll take my chances

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Speaker 1: on that, and it might it might blow up in

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Speaker 1: my face, but I'm I'm especially and this sucks because

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Speaker 1: I'm so influenced by Patrick Mahomes, you know, Like, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to think about Patrick Mahomes in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and obviously he's amazing. And if there's even a chance

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Speaker 1: that you have a like, if there's even a chance

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Speaker 1: that you can draft a guy that turns into something

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Speaker 1: like that, I just I gotta do it. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm likeson right. I love with Zach Wilson, absolutely, I'm

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Speaker 1: in love with Zack Wilson. And Trey Lance is the

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Speaker 1: same thing where I'm like this guy. This guy can

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Speaker 1: score from twenty five yards out on his feet and

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Speaker 1: he can throw it over the day moon. So I'll

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Speaker 1: take my chances even if it doesn't work out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's something to it. I think

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Speaker 1: as much as we talk about the Pat Mahomes thing,

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Speaker 1: I think we've been influenced by three quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: last five years, Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Because in the past, all those guys we spend all

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Speaker 1: the time talking about what they can do, and each

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Speaker 1: of those guys at a level of success in the

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Speaker 1: league where you're like, well, yeah, those those whole thoughts

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Speaker 1: have to do it. And I think now we have

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Speaker 1: to grate the talent and then try and find the fit.

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Speaker 1: The talent is this thing, okay, well where can we

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Speaker 1: fit him and who can teach him how to develop

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Speaker 1: some skills? Right? Well, I did want to say, so

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Speaker 1: I know, I know we're gonna go over, but um,

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Speaker 1: I never stop. I think he I think he rebounded.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Bucky was talking about Carlos Basham having

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Speaker 1: a great week. It seemed like a lot of that

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Speaker 1: came at the expense of Trey Smith, the Tennessee guard. Yeah, which,

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Speaker 1: and I know he's he's a pretty well known name.

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Speaker 1: You know, he he overcame some serious health issues during

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Speaker 1: his college career. Um, you know, he seems like a

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Speaker 1: really high character guy. He was actually he was at

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Speaker 1: the Star last year for the Jason Witton Character Award,

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Speaker 1: got a chance to spend some time around him. So

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Speaker 1: it seems like a really good guy. And and it's

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Speaker 1: like I said, I think he he rebounded to have

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Speaker 1: some nice practices. But that's that's one of the you know,

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Speaker 1: higher tier guards that seemed like he had some rough

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Speaker 1: reps down in Mobile for sure. It's a good recall

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Speaker 1: that David Hellman. I forgot about him coming to the

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Speaker 1: Star for the Jason Witten thing last year. That's got's good. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how about that? That's the kind of insight that David

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Speaker 1: Hellman provides you on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft

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Speaker 1: Show as always. But that's gonna do it for us

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Speaker 1: this week, or at least this Tuesday. This group will

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Speaker 1: be back next Tuesday, ten am. Be sure to join

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner on Thursday, same time,

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Speaker 1: same place, right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. But

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Speaker 1: for Chris be for Bucky Brooks, Brian brought us, and

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Speaker 1: David Helmant. I'm Kyle Heelman saying so long, thanks for

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