WEBVTT - The Tipster 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.640 What you're about to hear is the work of investigative 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.120 journalism that explores one woman's search for answers in her 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.840 son's death. The views and opinions in this podcast do 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:15.960 not reflect those of I Heart Media previously on Somebody. Okay, 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.640 so you heard two satisfires on the block. So when 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:20.160 I found out what had happened the first day that 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.240 was reached out to local game bangers, none of them 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.280 took admitts to it. This whole thing is just get 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.120 stranger and stranger by the minute. And so I have 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:33.839 theories in my head. But somebody covering with Somebody. My 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.560 name is Chaparral Wells. This is a story of my son, Courtney, 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.520 a young black man in a fancy car who wound 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.600 up with a bullet in his back in front of 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.279 a Chicago police station. And it's the story of my 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:59.920 search for the truth. This is somebody everybody, somebodys every day, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:18.240 no bid. So there's this thing that I haven't told 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.399 you about yet. I didn't even tell Allison in the 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.440 Invisible Institute for a long time because when it happened, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.120 I was told it wasn't important. But it turns out 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:34.640 it was. When I first met with police just a 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.160 few days after Courtney was shot. I told him about 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.319 a tip I got on Facebook. It was from a 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.919 guy who went by Randall Connieham like the football player. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:51.080 The note went like this, good morning, I have to stay. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.600 I'm very sorry for your loss. I just wanted to 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.520 see if this info may help you. I was coming 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.800 home from the gym back. This guy, Randall lived in 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:05.400 Belmont Craigen, and the night Courtney died, he saw three 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.880 guys and the Grand Marquis who tossed a pistol. He 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:14.920 called nine one one twice. He sent me photos along 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.720 with the message, mug shots and a photo of the 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:24.200 Grand Marquis that showed his license plate. I thanked him 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:30.320 and brought it all to police. They called the police. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.640 They told us that they already knew about that, and 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.720 that it was not related. Research and it's not related, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.920 so this was a separate incident. Correct. They said it 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.280 wasn't connected at all. But I still wanted to give 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.959 them all the information Randall gave me. Anyway, he gave 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:56.760 me names of the two people that that he saw 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:13.360 in that vehicle. You um and uh, yeah, that's all correct. Okay, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:18.880 that's all correct. So it's the caller calls in immediately 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.040 and this is well after your son was was shot. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.359 It Detective a Model said Randall's nine on one call 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.880 was way after Courtney shooting. To me, they were like, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.040 you know whatever, lady, we've already decided that this is 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.120 not credible. We're gonna take your information, but we're not 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:41.000 gonna do anything with it. I moved on because I 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:45.520 was grieving. I had to finish bearing my son. I 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.000 was planning Courtney's funeral, and at the time I was 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:54.120 still thinking police shot my son, And when detectives dismissed it, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.320 I thought, well, maybe they're right. But I later came 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.880 to find out from those nine one one call logs 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.640 that Randall's first call wasn't way later than courtney shooting. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.720 It was thirty seven minutes after Courtney was shot. So 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.600 when the first nine one one callers husband Edgar saw 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.120 some gangsters in his alley and a Grand Markeys, it 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.159 reminded me of Randall's tip. Allison and I we went 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.000 back and looked at the picture of the car Randall 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:30.839 sent me on Facebook two years earlier, and there was 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.120 a Grand Marquis and the license plate started with Z 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:42.719 four four. Edgar had remembered the first two digits, and 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.200 when I went back to the police report about Elena, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.080 it said that she saw a license plate starting with 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.520 C four four, C and Z. You know, they sound 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:59.600 a lot of like So the witness accounts matched up 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:12.440 in the police never connected the dots. We needed to 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.640 talk to this Facebook tipster, Randall Cunningham, face to face 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.440 to find out who he really was and see what 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.400 else he knew about what happened that night, any details 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.799 that could help us. My name is Allison. I got 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:36.960 your number from chapperl Wells, the mother of Courtney. We 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.200 texted and went to an address we found for him. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.040 No one was home, so we left a note. That night, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.080 we got a call back from Randall's uncle, who had 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.159 found the note. He put us in touch with Randall, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.120 so we made plans to meet Randall said we could 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:58.120 catch him after a showing of Black Panther. Bill and 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.920 I waited for Randall in the food court of a 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:07.000 suburban Chicago mall over pretzels and smoothies. Black Panther is 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:14.200 a long movie. Finally he came out. Did your uncle 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.240 tell you we tried to reach you? At his and 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:17.880 then I was like, why are Why are the FEDS 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.800 at the door. So I kind of thought that you 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.599 guys were Feds. I'm like, what's going on here? But 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.479 he told me it was related to the case, and 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.080 I'm like wow. He told us that even though he 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.680 called nine one one twice, he still wanted to reach 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:35.120 out to Chapparral directly. So, um, Mr Copeland's mother on 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.800 the news, and I felt terrible, you know, and I figured, well, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.960 why if you know, if there's this type of information out, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.479 why wouldn't I want to try to reach out. We 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.680 asked him to walk us through what he saw when 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.880 he was driving home that night. From the beginning, I 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.120 was coming home from an export, Jim. It was pretty 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.240 late at night. Um, As I was coming home, I 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.200 noticed individuals in the street and I almost hit him. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.640 So I kind of looked at him and I could 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.520 tell he was gang affiliated colors and his hat was 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.159 cocked and he kind of threw a sign at me, 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.359 and I'm like, well whatever. The guy who threw the 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.480 gang sign looked like he'd been running, like something had happened. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.040 Randall went to turn onto his street when he noticed 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.720 a car just sitting there a Grand Marquis. Short time later, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.080 the car starts moving. Randall parked and ran to his apartment. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.040 He looked out a window and saw that the Grand 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.600 Marquis had driven up the block, then backed up, and 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.200 then up the block again, and then reversed and lit 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.920 it again like they were I don't know what was 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.800 going on, if they were intoxicated or whatever. Randall called 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.200 the cops were on their way. Then he saw a 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.280 guy get out of the car. It was the same 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.240 one who had just thrown gang signs at him, and 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.920 two more guys got out of the car. They quickly 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:54.400 they tossed a weapon and scurried away. So Randall called 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.240 nine one one again. You probably wouldn't put two and 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.960 two together, um, and they quickly ditched the pistol. I 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.760 heard like a loud thud, you can hear like a 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.320 metal clink, sound like get thrown to the ground. Uh, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.400 So I actually went out to try to recover it. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.440 I didn't know if the hell came over me. I'm 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.480 a concealed carry holder, so I figured, well, let me 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.160 go see what this is. And there's kids on the neighborhood, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.800 so you know, I didn't want to. I didn't want 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.400 a kid to find it. But before Randall could get there, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.400 one of the guys came back to retrieve what they threw, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:24.760 and I know it was a pistol because the way 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.640 they were holding it it was shiny. And uh, I 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.480 told the cops, hey, this was the description of the individuals, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.959 which direction they fled and which way they went and whatnot. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.160 The cops went up the block to get the guys. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.160 The gun was gone, but Randall did find an iPhone. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.560 I actually went through it and uh there's a couple 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.600 of videos of them drinking in a car um and 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.320 then there was a video of them flashing a revolver. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.680 One was a revolver, the other gun was like a 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.319 nine millimeter. Randall offered to give the phone to police. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.880 They contacted me and they told me, hey, you know 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.720 what's going on, and they were kind of brief about 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.240 what they you know, what they wanted, and then they 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.080 hung up and then they called back again and I'm like, yeah, well, 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.640 do you want me to come to the station or not? 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.680 And they were like, well no at this time no. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.760 Uh So that was that and the police never followed up, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:20.480 and then Randall lost the iPhone in a move. We 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.400 asked him about those mug shots from his Facebook message. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.640 How did he know who these guys were? Somebody that 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.640 I knew in the neighborhood. Um, I knew one of 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:34.199 the individuals in the car. So yeah, I kind of asked, well, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.280 what had happened? And they said they were questioned and 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.360 then they were they were pretty much released. They never 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.440 he said, he doesn't know the guys personally, but he 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.760 does know of them. I'm not getting affiliated and never 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.000 believed in gangs or none of that, but I did 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.640 believe in, you know, getting crimes figured out and solved 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.840 and you know, making sure justice has served. So, um, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.600 you know, there's one more thing you need to know 0:09:54.640 --> 0:10:06.320 about Randall. He's a Chicago police officer. Who oh, Allison, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.640 when you told me that Randall was a cop, I 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.840 was shocked, but you know, I was grateful more than anything, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.720 because this information was vital. Didn't make sense once he 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.520 found out he was a cop. I thought that, well, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.840 if he wasn't a cop, he was definitely trying to 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.839 be one because he knew exactly what the words to 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.559 say and and he knew what to give me. So 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.320 the night Courtney died when Randall called this end to nine. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.200 When one he was still a civilian. He was just 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.760 a guy in the neighborhood reporting what he saw. But 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.840 now he's been a cop for more than two years, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.600 so we were a little surprised that he was still 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.520 willing to talk to us. I mean, I was just 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:52.960 so grateful for anybody to give me information. The fact 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:57.040 that he was a cop. It made me have some 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.880 type of hope that all cops aren't bad. You know. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.880 I wish there were more Randalls on the Chicago Police force. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.800 I mean, what if he had never come forward. Without 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.600 him coming forward, we wouldn't be able to connect the 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.320 dots corroborate what Edgar and Elena said about the car 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.280 and the guys inside it. But the frustrating part is 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.120 it has taken us over two years to get here. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.880 All of this should have been known on day one, 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.680 and it turns out it was all right there on 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:38.920 the police radio the whole time point because we're sitting 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.520 in the silver Grand Murkey has gone under the car. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.560 When we asked the city for all the police dispatch 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.160 in Courtney's case, we got about an hour of tape 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.120 back the first twenty five minutes had Courtney flagging down 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:58.920 Officer block for help, his license plates, his name male, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.959 his name is Chicole, and Elena calling in. Once you 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.560 get a shot started Fullerton along Long and Fullerton Color 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.520 heard two shots on the block. I got no description. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:16.880 But then later in the radio tape there's this for 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:23.480 thirty five minutes. When we asked why this was believed out, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.880 the city told us again that it was unrelated. We 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.400 pushed back and had to wait months to get the 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.839 full tape, and when you listen to it, come find 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:41.199 out it's completely related. A mercury tinted windows, reoccupants circling 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.000 a black twice and then reversed. It may have a 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.400 flat tire, it's double part by the fire. Hydrants demand 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.560 black bread jacket on the corner, flashing gang signs. So 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:56.400 once again it's up to us to investigate. We really 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.959 wanted to know more about these gangsters Randall saw did 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.960 in this gun. Two of the men actually were arrested 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.480 up the block the night my son was killed. Point 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.640 backcoties were sitting in the silver ground Murkey because he 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.960 drove Vine and appeared to based to a gun under 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.480 the curve. They have since recovered or whatever was thrown 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.080 under there, and they're walking north round. The dispatcher's relaying 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.199 Randall's nine one one call to the police. She says, 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.240 two male Hispanics wearing black hoodies were sitting in a 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.080 granmar key. It appears they threw a gun of the car, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.800 which they've since recovered, and they're walking northbound. That's too possible, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:38.680 fucking westbound on Belton, And then the officer says, got 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.360 two possibles walking westbound on Belding toward Larmie. The police 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.800 arrested two men who were charged with a parole violation 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.160 for associating with game member, which basically me they were 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:55.520 just hanging out with each other. They were released the 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:00.040 same day, and the third guy commands blackbread Jacket in 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:06.640 the corner, flashing signs he got away. We decided not 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.360 to reveal their names because no one has been charged 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.680 in connection with Courtney's case, and we don't know who, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.200 if any of these guys shot Courtney. What we do 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.040 know is that the police should have followed these leads. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.720 But when we dug around, we found out that all 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.560 three men Randall saw that night are members of the 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.000 Stylers gang. All of them have been convicted of gun 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:33.920 offenses and all have done time. They all have really 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:43.560 long rap sheets. But this is the Facebook video of 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:51.400 one of the men who was arrested that night. So 0:14:54.120 --> 0:15:00.520 love it's not at the time of Courtney's death, he 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.760 was on parole for armed robbery sinsons. And the man 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.320 that Randall saw a flashing gang size, he's the one 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:15.320 that got away. He's been arrested sixteen times since. Randle 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.440 and Edgar identified the same type of car, but we 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.200 wanted to see if they'd identify the same men inside 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.720 the car too, So we decided to do something the 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.520 police had never done, a double blind photo lineup. We 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.240 put together a big stack of mug shots to show Edgar. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.680 We included the mug shots randallson to Chaparl and men 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.240 who look similar to them, plus some random mug shots too, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.440 And because Edgar remembered someone in the vehicle with long hair, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.520 we included almost neighbor and other men with long hair. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:57.080 By Elena, Hi, are you right baby? Back here? I 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.960 went over to Elena and Edgar's again, Chapel stayed back. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.720 We didn't want Edgar to feel any extra pressure to 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:14.440 make an identification. And thank you. I want sorry. We 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.440 got set up in their living room. If it's you know, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.600 very unlikely that you'll be able to identify anyone, so 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.680 there's absolutely no pressure to do it. Just if I 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.160 brought along one of our summer reporting fellows, Matilda. The 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.120 lineup was double blind because neither Edgar nor Matilda knew 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.920 who was who in the mug shots. We didn't want 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.680 to influence Edgar to pick out certain people. Elena stuck 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:45.680 around to translate, Okay, gonna send alright, so I'll have 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.600 you both look at them, and Matilda is gonna go through. 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.360 I left the room and they went through the photos 0:16:52.640 --> 0:17:02.920 one by one. Who Edgar said, this one looks like 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:09.520 him a little bit. Maybe it looks like yeah, bit 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:15.760 at the photo after photo, No, he said no, He 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:22.040 said no. Then he turned to the next photo, and 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:28.639 right away he stopped, well, he thinks that one it 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:33.040 is because long hair. He landed on the guy with 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.920 the long hair, almost neighbor who lived by the church. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.520 That one I think is one of them. Edgar picked 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.640 out two other mug shots. He was less sure about these, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.720 but one of them was one of the guys arrested 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.640 that night. Up the block from rand Okay, that's all 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:57.280 we had. Thank you very much. Just keeps going and going. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.720 You know, we're just trying to help the families by answers. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:08.080 So Randall and Edgar's accounts we're matching up more and more. Okay, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:19.080 thank you, take care of h We felt like we 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.360 were getting close to finding out who shot my son, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.200 so we reached out to Courtney's friend June again because 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:27.639 we wanted to see if he can talk to some 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.520 of his gang contexts. We were trying to figure out 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.120 if June knew any of the guys and the mug shots. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.679 When June asked around for us, he told us it 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:41.280 was like opening Pandora's box. One day, two gang chiefs 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.280 showed up at his door. They said, you've been asking 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.159 a lot of questions. After that, June changed his number 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.240 and moved. When we caught up with him again months later, 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.320 he said he didn't want to have an ear to 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.679 the streets anymore. He wanted to have an ear to 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.480 the stock market because he was all about his cigar business. 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:11.639 He was done dealing information with June out of the picture. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:16.400 We chased a differently the car we wanted to track 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.440 down that Grand Marquis, but it wasn't registered to anyone anymore. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.640 We did find out who owned the Grand Marquis when 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:29.080 Courtney was killed. Her first name was Crystal. We didn't 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.600 know anything about her except for her address. So we 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:37.200 hit the road, so that's it's not that far. No, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.840 she's pretty close, but within a mile on the way. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.359 We talked about Courtney, like we always do. He always 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.280 said he was gonna be famous. I don't think this 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.360 is what he wanted to be famous for, but he 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:56.320 had this this ominous feeling that that he was going 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.480 to die young. You know. I think he had some 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.920 fears anxiety because his father and his grandfather also died 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.720 of heart issues. We're going where so just take a 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:13.199 little further anyway. The last anxiety attack he had was 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.080 probably about six weeks before he died, and He's like, 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.360 I think I'm having a heart attack. And I'm like, Courdney, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.399 you're not having a heart attack. If you're having a 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.040 heart attack, you wouldn't be able to sit here and 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.159 tell me to take you to the doctor. So he 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:32.680 was like, I just keep seeing myself dying because I 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.359 knew it. I knew what it was. I knew he 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.359 was having a panic attack. I told him, you do 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.120 what I told you to do, which is pray. We're 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.240 all here on borrow time. Cordney, you know, not thinking 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:49.960 in six weeks my son will be dead. That was 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:54.080 the last serious, serious conversation that I had with Coordiney 0:20:54.160 --> 0:21:08.200 before he died. Crystal Street was lined with matching brick 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:12.160 two flags. We didn't want to freak her out, so 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:17.959 we left the recorder behind. We walked up to her 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.879 building and rang the doorbell for her apartment. We waited. 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.920 We were about to walk away when a woman came out. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.639 It was Crystal. We showed her a picture of the 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.400 Grammar key. She said, yes, that used to be her car. 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.760 We told her about Courtney's murder and that witnesses pointed 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.679 to this car. She said she got rid of that 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:44.280 car before on Craigslist. We showed her the mug shots 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.320 of the guys. She says she didn't know any of them. 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.920 We were bummed. We had hoped she could tell us more. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:22:00.240 We thanked her and got back into the van. Well, 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:04.359 I definitely think she's lying. I think she does no 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:09.560 more than what she's saying, and um she wants to 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:14.639 make sure that it's not traceable back to her. I 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.240 think when you showed at the pictures that really threw her. 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.359 What do you think, Elsa, I don't know. She seemed 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:26.600 genuinely caught off guard and surprised, you know, But I 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:34.679 don't know. Chaparral was right, Crystal was lying to us. 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:41.679 A few weeks later, we were digging around in some 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.760 court documents and we saw Crystal was listed as the 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.000 girlfriend of the guy who got away from the cops 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:51.000 that night. They even have kids together. We found some 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.640 photos of him on Facebook. One of the pictures shows 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:55.600 him at a grave site with one of the two 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:59.719 stylers arrested the night Courtney died. Now we had evidence 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:06.720 connecting them to each other and the car. We hadn't 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.479 heard from Randall in a while until one morning, November one, 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.320 he texted me, did you hear what happened on Long 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.800 and Belding. Female executed in front of her kids and 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:23.520 friend over a car be safe in that neighborhood. My 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:28.359 stomach dropped. It was the same corner where Courtney was shot, 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:34.000 and the car was a BMW. It was all over 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:38.119 the news. This is just absolutely heartbreaking. The victims family 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.520 says she was out celebrating Halloween and was tricker treating 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.480 with her twin sister and two nieces when a masked 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.600 man jumped into their car and forced them to drive. 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.159 Police want to find out why a young woman was 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.200 murdered by a masked man who forced his way into 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.440 the car. We win live at District Police Station in Belmont, 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:02.520 Craigan with more. The gunman made them drive several blocks 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.800 before he shot and killed one of the women on 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.440 the same street where the gangsters and the grandmar key 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.120 tossed the gun. The gunman took off running to black 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:19.720 Hawk Park, Styler's territory. Okay, are you there, ye, come here. 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.399 I got on the phone with Chaparral right away. Have 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.680 you seen the news today? Yeah? You know that that 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.800 shooting right back Courtney, right yeah, exactly right by Courtney. 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.320 It was Belden and long right past the church. I'm 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:37.480 looking at the law some like, oh my god, yeah, 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.240 this is like, why is here? I told her it 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.000 was a BMW two. Are you serious? This is like, 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.959 just sent my PTSD right off stood way open now. 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.240 I'm sorry. We discussed whether we should go to the 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.399 police with what we knew that they don't have that 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.239 information about Elsa. I know they have it, but they 0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.320 don't they don't understand its significant. But I just it 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.680 doesn't feel like they did the kind of detective work 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.199 at Ethan because I'm thinking, like, if if you know, 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.720 I know my son was gone, but if other girl 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.240 have to die, you know what I'm saying. It's always 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:19.399 been about preventing things from happening to other people. For me, 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.560 if this is the same person, I'm hoping that they 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:28.240 were actually follow up. In the end, we decided we 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.240 had a responsibility to come forward if there was any 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.120 chance our findings could help them solve this woman's murder. 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.359 I really didn't want to meet with those jokers again, 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.399 but I sucked it up. Maybe this time if I 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:44.040 came in with two white journalists, they'd actually listen to me. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.840 That was the detective model. So we called us that 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.120 something up. Lichal and one of the supervisors from here 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:57.600 will be contacted. A few days later, me Alison and 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.359 Bill were sitting down with Sergeant Mitchell and the detective 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.679 A Model. They agreed to meet us only if I 0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.879 didn't record, but the meeting was on the record. What 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.560 did you think about the police, stipulating that you couldn't record, 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:15.200 and I wish we would have recorded. I do. I 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:24.200 promise you I wanted to, I really did. We met 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.280 for about two hours in the same conference room as before, 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.240 but no one walked out on me this time. Sergeant Mitchell. 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.040 He wore a tie and was red faced, as ever. 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.200 Detective a Model wore a pull over. He barely took 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:43.639 any notes. Here's what happened. We brought in two huge 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.800 binders of documents and we told police what we knew. 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.280 So we walked them through our evidence. Allison started by 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.880 showing them a map. We highlighted the corner of Belding 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.320 and Long by the church where the neighbors heard the 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.560 shots that night. We told him we believe this is 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.240