Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here it is Fabulous Friday, Fabulous
Speaker 1: Football Friday Edition Mick Shots as we get you ready
Speaker 1: for the big weekend. And oh, Mickey has looked so
Speaker 1: often every year forward to going to our nation's capitol
Speaker 1: to watch the Cowboys play the Washington football team. And Mickey,
Speaker 1: you can't do it this year. You are staying home
Speaker 1: this year instead. Yeah, just like most of the rest
Speaker 1: of the media as well. That's one of the hardships
Speaker 1: of this uh pandemic that we're in. Right now, there's
Speaker 1: Everson Walls with a beautiful shot of Everson behind him
Speaker 1: at his homestead as well. But Mickey, I know that
Speaker 1: you miss your annual trip to Washington, DC, don't you.
Speaker 1: You know what, watching the game on television will be
Speaker 1: a better view than watching from the press box at
Speaker 1: FedEx Field. It's the absolute worst view in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. We're not very high and we're basically in
Speaker 1: the corner of the end zones. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Once the ball gets past the forty yard line, you
Speaker 1: can't you can't have no depth perception whatsoever. You can't
Speaker 1: have no depth perception whatsoe. And you know what I
Speaker 1: would do. I would do a triple negative if I
Speaker 1: could have figured it out with with ak better. Uh,
Speaker 1: at least you were at the fifty yard line, but
Speaker 1: you were outdoors, so the press box was open air
Speaker 1: and uh, um, let's try and there wasn't any room.
Speaker 1: So I remember distinctly the nineteen eighty nine game when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won their game of the year. Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 1: What was it? What was it like thirteen thirteen to
Speaker 1: three or something like that. It was thirteen to three
Speaker 1: Steve Walls where they were, So we were so world champions.
Speaker 1: I believe they were world champions, Yes, but they were
Speaker 1: struggling that year. Oh yeah, And and it was it
Speaker 1: was a Sunday night game, so of course the only
Speaker 1: game the Cowboys win. We were on deadline, but we
Speaker 1: were so cramped in the in the press box. I
Speaker 1: remember having to sit kind a side saddle like this
Speaker 1: because Blackie Charade was next to me and we couldn't
Speaker 1: put our shoulders across from each other. There was not
Speaker 1: enough room, right, Oh it was. It was a great view,
Speaker 1: but the worst press box. I love the AUFK Stadium
Speaker 1: out of all of the away stadium's. Guy, I love
Speaker 1: that road game itself. Just being in the nation's capitol
Speaker 1: was always pretty cool feeling. And of course the rivalry.
Speaker 1: But yeah, of course the thing about the FK was
Speaker 1: the the end zone UH stadium, the end zone seats.
Speaker 1: You know, whenever they get rocking at AK Stadium and
Speaker 1: the Hogs were working and Riggins was going well, they
Speaker 1: would they would make it sway. It was. It was
Speaker 1: almost as if it wasn't. I don't know how they
Speaker 1: did it, but the fans would. They would make the
Speaker 1: end zones seats UH sway a little bit and it
Speaker 1: almost had a little rocking effect to it. That's because
Speaker 1: they were portable style, like they moved them in there
Speaker 1: just for that, you know what. And and I know people,
Speaker 1: it was the best nickname ever that Skip Bayless came
Speaker 1: up with RFK Rickety Field for knuckleheads. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we're giving Skip Bayless credit on this show. It's very, very,
Speaker 1: very appropriate and then okay, let me correct us right
Speaker 1: off the top here, because the in eighty nine, the
Speaker 1: Washington football team was not the defending super Bowl champions.
Speaker 1: They were coming off a seven and nine season. They
Speaker 1: won the super Bowl in the eighties seven season. Oh
Speaker 1: they won the strike season. Yeah, that's right, So that
Speaker 1: doesn't really count, does it? Oh? One victory though, like
Speaker 1: the NBA bubble, right, we're gonna put an asterick on that.
Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing? Yell? Well, here on pro
Speaker 1: football records it has an asterisk right by it there.
Speaker 1: And then of course they won the super Bowl in
Speaker 1: ninety one. And of course, Everson. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you realize this or not, but Mickey wrote a book
Speaker 1: at one point on the rivalry between Dallas and Washington.
Speaker 1: We did it. We did it in uh nineteen ninety seven, right,
Speaker 1: and it was the first time in like forever that
Speaker 1: neither team qualified for the playoffs. It's like, what do
Speaker 1: you think that game? From book sales and ever said
Speaker 1: that was the kiss of death for the rivalry. Mickey
Speaker 1: writing a book about it, because how many times has
Speaker 1: neither team made the playoffs in the last twas well?
Speaker 1: Washington probably what do you think Washington's made it maybe twice. Well,
Speaker 1: I can tell you exactly how many times they made it.
Speaker 1: In ninety nine they lost in the division round. They
Speaker 1: made it in two thousand and five, lost in the
Speaker 1: division round, lost wildcard. In O seven and twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: all they lost a wild card because they beat the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the final game of the season. Twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: lost a wild card game. So so you're telling me
Speaker 1: they haven't won a playoff game since OH five. Wow,
Speaker 1: let me check the O five season to see if
Speaker 1: they got a first round by They were ten and six,
Speaker 1: so they probably didn't hadn't play a wild card game. Yes,
Speaker 1: they won a wild card game over Tampa Bay, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't count. It was Tampa No, Tampa Bay was good.
Speaker 1: We've got our own discerning asterisks over here on this show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So that OH five was the
Speaker 1: last time that Washington won a playoff game, and prior
Speaker 1: to that in ninety nine, they did finish first in
Speaker 1: the division. In ninety nine, let's see if they want
Speaker 1: a playoff game. Yes, they beat Detroit. Well that didn't
Speaker 1: count either, So you think so you figure the last
Speaker 1: time both teams went to the playoffs? Was ninety nine. Well,
Speaker 1: let's think about the okayh fifteen Cowboys did not. Twelve
Speaker 1: Cowboys did not. Seven Cowboys did right seven They both
Speaker 1: made the playoffs and but Cowboys didn't win a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Neither did Washington OH five. No for the Cowboys, um,
Speaker 1: and they won a wild card. Washington did an OH
Speaker 1: five in ninety nine. Then, yeah, ninety nine, and prior
Speaker 1: to that for Washington it was ninety two. Was the
Speaker 1: last time they made the playoffs. It's not a really
Speaker 1: uh storied tradition since nineteen ninety two, since they last
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl in ninety one, since I left
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's what it is. I am the common
Speaker 1: denominator there, guys. That's all right. Of course, they're doing
Speaker 1: a talk show in Washington right now saying it hasn't
Speaker 1: been a story tradition for the Cowboys as they last
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl either. I was. I was
Speaker 1: on with one of the radio guys this morning from Washington, DC,
Speaker 1: and he was like, they played all this and I
Speaker 1: didn't realize what they were doing, but they were playing
Speaker 1: old cuts from guys talking about the rivalry, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what are they talking about? This thing's dead,
Speaker 1: no one even knows it. And then when it was
Speaker 1: it was from like twenty years ago. But the guy
Speaker 1: was the host. Kevin was saying that he asked the
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen about the rivalry and he got this stare, like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? There was a rivalry between
Speaker 1: the Redskins and the Cowboys. Well, think about it, Kyle Allen,
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen was born He's twenty four years old, okay,
Speaker 1: and so so he was born in ninety six, Yeah,
Speaker 1: after the Cowboys last went to a super Bowl. That
Speaker 1: was when he was right around the time the book
Speaker 1: was written. And so yeah, yeah, yeah, so there once again,
Speaker 1: what was the name of that book, bears who? That's
Speaker 1: the name of risk is Cowboys. I've got here, is
Speaker 1: gonna put it, let me go grab it. I got
Speaker 1: it back here. He's got it on his bookshelf. Yeah, absolutely, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they all didn't sell and he's gonna write it full
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah. Yeah, Now there's about seven so if
Speaker 1: you want one outside, oh yes, thanks, Well, Micky, let's
Speaker 1: get up to speed on the news going on at
Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, and the biggest news I guess
Speaker 1: coming out of Mike McCarthy's press conference and Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: talking on the radio this morning is that it looks
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys are going to be missing another Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl starter on the offensive line, as Zack Martin not
Speaker 1: at a concussion protocol doesn't look like Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: pretty predictable, I think when he didn't practice the previous
Speaker 1: two days, and you know it takes a couple of
Speaker 1: days to pass all the protocols you have to do
Speaker 1: to come out of that. Uh. So yeah, the Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern most likely, it sounded like almost one hundred percent
Speaker 1: that he's your starting guard. Uh. They still didn't come
Speaker 1: clean on the on the left tackle position. Uh. The
Speaker 1: way Connor Williams talked yesterday, it sounded like cam Irving
Speaker 1: was practicing there. Uh And Mike McCarthy didn't want to
Speaker 1: say so it's either him or Greg Sinnott at left tackle.
Speaker 1: So uh, here here's what happened last night. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys watched the Thursday night football game
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Eagles. Uh, I swear Joe Buck
Speaker 1: must have said at least three times that the boy
Speaker 1: the poor Eagles, their offensive line is so beat up
Speaker 1: that this is the sixth time they're starting a different combination. Well,
Speaker 1: how about this, if if we get past the one
Speaker 1: snap Joe Looney played against Cleveland when Tyler Biadas had
Speaker 1: to take over one snap into the game, this is
Speaker 1: the sixth time the Cowboys will have a different combination
Speaker 1: on their starting offensive line. So I want to whoever's
Speaker 1: doing the game on Sunday needs to make a big
Speaker 1: point of that. Well, not only that, the difference between
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the and the Eagles even more of
Speaker 1: a difference is they still have their quarterback. We don't,
Speaker 1: so right you want to start throwing and the other
Speaker 1: and the other difference is the Cowboys were losing Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl players. I don't think the Eagles were. But now
Speaker 1: they still have they still have their center, they have
Speaker 1: they still have him playing. Well that's about it. Well
Speaker 1: that that's not gonna bode well for Don Terry Poe.
Speaker 1: Then nothing has voted well off of Don Terry Pole
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season. So let's it's okay part of
Speaker 1: the course right now. So Mickey, how much patience student
Speaker 1: you think they have for the Don Terry Poe. Well,
Speaker 1: all I know is Mike Nolan in his conference called
Speaker 1: this Morning, he was asked about the sixty nine yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run, the reference being did your defense give up? Right?
Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm not sure how that happened because
Speaker 1: we had more guys in the middle of the thing.
Speaker 1: He goes, have you looked at him? So as he
Speaker 1: was talking, I went and looked at it. The guys
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had nine guys in the box, nine and
Speaker 1: he ran right through them, and it's like, how did
Speaker 1: it happen? Well, let me tell you how it happened.
Speaker 1: Don Terry Poe got walked right out of the middle
Speaker 1: of the field and left his big app about as
Speaker 1: big as he is right in the middle. The offensive
Speaker 1: guards on the other side, they went two tight ends
Speaker 1: were able to come off and pick off the linebackers,
Speaker 1: and both safeties picked the wrong gap, both of them,
Speaker 1: and there was nobody there. And it wasn't like they
Speaker 1: gave up, they just got blocked. And so again when
Speaker 1: we talk about this defense, it's just the mistakes they're
Speaker 1: making that had nothing to do with the scheme. They
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with coaching. Right, Just do what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. Don't get washed out of the play.
Speaker 1: That's what I was talking about yesterday. I keep getting
Speaker 1: the guy. Is it Donovan Wilson? Is that name? Yes,
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson came. He could have been the one to
Speaker 1: hold that and ate yard at the most and eight
Speaker 1: yard carried, and for some reason, he runs up and
Speaker 1: tries to fit his head into a crease that did
Speaker 1: not exist. To his left three of his own tea. Yes,
Speaker 1: to his left was the hole itself, and it was
Speaker 1: huge if all he had to do was keep his
Speaker 1: eyes open and be patient waiting for the back to
Speaker 1: pick the hole. That's what we talked about yesterday. The
Speaker 1: safety has to pick the hole, just like the running
Speaker 1: back has to pick the hole so that he can
Speaker 1: meet him in the hole. That did not happen. The
Speaker 1: guy would have ran right to him, right into him.
Speaker 1: What can you say, so, Mickey, let me ask yes,
Speaker 1: all right, So what are the Cowboys with all the
Speaker 1: injuries the Cowboys have had on offense, not as many undefense,
Speaker 1: but they've had some undefense as well. But they got
Speaker 1: bander esh back. Now, how much does the next does
Speaker 1: this game and the next game against Philadelphia determ the
Speaker 1: immediate expectations and future of this organization leading up to
Speaker 1: the trade deadline and trying to determine in a weak division. Okay,
Speaker 1: do they try to go get a veteran guy, like
Speaker 1: maybe a veteran safety to try to shore up that
Speaker 1: position or do they continue with what they have at
Speaker 1: that position? And I'm not talking Earl Thomas there. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about a reasonable guy that can fit on, a
Speaker 1: veteran guy who you can depend on to play run defense. Well,
Speaker 1: if I was going to do that, then it would
Speaker 1: be a defensive tackle. I think that's where they need
Speaker 1: to shore things up. Yeah, I'm just saying any position
Speaker 1: are they are they trying to determine? All right, we're
Speaker 1: in a We're in no man's land, right, I know.
Speaker 1: And Jerry answered the question today because he was asked
Speaker 1: on his radio segment, are you adding or are you
Speaker 1: subtract acting? And he says, oh, no, we would add.
Speaker 1: So the reference was we're not selling off. This isn't
Speaker 1: baseball like getting rid of guys to try to pick
Speaker 1: up extra draft choices. But he said, but he goes,
Speaker 1: it has to be something that obviously makes sense and
Speaker 1: not give up a bunch of draft choices. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I think the name the other day came up, Quinton Williams.
Speaker 1: The Jets seem to be selling everybody off. He's got
Speaker 1: some off the field problems too. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to mess with that guy. And supposedly the
Speaker 1: Jets want a second for him, and I was thinking, well,
Speaker 1: good luck with all that, right, So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if something was right, I just don't see them making
Speaker 1: like a desperation move for one guy because they're not
Speaker 1: just one. And as we talked about, and as we
Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, if anybody's got a credible offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: they're not unloading the guy because they'll need a backup, right.
Speaker 1: We talked about the offensive line yesterday, how they're gonna
Speaker 1: line up. What happens if one of those guys get hurt?
Speaker 1: What are you coming in with? Like they got to
Speaker 1: bring Marcus Henry off the practice squad to be a
Speaker 1: backup center if Cam Irving actually plays for the since
Speaker 1: the first game when he got rumbled up on he
Speaker 1: had had an offensive snap by the way, he got
Speaker 1: hurt special teams, then greg snots the next tackle, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure who the next guard is tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: I'd have to grab my my depth chart to see
Speaker 1: who's the backup guard. Bill's on it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Come on, Bill, spit it out a baby. We're up
Speaker 1: against a break. I'll give I'll give Macky a chance.
Speaker 1: I'll give make you a chance to find it. We're
Speaker 1: up against a break. But anyway, I do think it
Speaker 1: is interesting, and it kind of not only from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of competing for a division and a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: The next two games are critical along those lines, but
Speaker 1: also I think just figuring out, all right, is this
Speaker 1: just a rebuild or is there something tangible to be had?
Speaker 1: If they win the next two, obviously there's something tangible
Speaker 1: to be had here. If they lose the next two,
Speaker 1: then you're two and six and you know, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, we find the way. I've got
Speaker 1: the answer. Okay, you'll give it to us after this break.
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Speaker 1: all right, Mickey. Yeah. The answer to our trivia question
Speaker 1: that was posed required to the break, and that trivia
Speaker 1: question is who is the backup offensive guard on this team?
Speaker 1: Is that what the question was? It was and on
Speaker 1: the depth chart for this week before they knew anything,
Speaker 1: it was Connor McGovern. But he he's a star start.
Speaker 1: So my guess is, uh, Henry Marcus. Henry is going
Speaker 1: to be the swing guy, the backup center and guard.
Speaker 1: About a practice squad possibility, not one guard is listed
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Did they get rid of Adam Redmond? No,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's eligible yet because they
Speaker 1: signed him. They signed him to the practice squad, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if he made it through the six
Speaker 1: day protocol. Now I got it. When I listed him
Speaker 1: as being signed to the practice squad, I put down
Speaker 1: October twelfth, so next to it, which would mean he
Speaker 1: is he's gone, So maybe he's maybe he's eligible now, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they could bring him up because actually he's done
Speaker 1: both and and Marcus Henry actually in training camp played
Speaker 1: guard center too, So we'll see which I forgot about
Speaker 1: him because they don't. I didn't see him listed on
Speaker 1: the on the depth chart that I had here. And
Speaker 1: then the other thing that they did this week is
Speaker 1: they protected Jordan Mills on the practice on the practice squad,
Speaker 1: So a team, right, come pick him off their practice squad.
Speaker 1: So and and if you're not unfamiliar with the rules
Speaker 1: on that, the teams can protect four practice squad guys
Speaker 1: each week. Changes from week to week. They can protect
Speaker 1: poor guys. So yeah, I know I glossed over Redman's
Speaker 1: name because they had him listed as a center. But
Speaker 1: he can do both, okay, So and he's got more
Speaker 1: experienced than Marcus Henry, does I think? Also, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Here's the other thing that I was thinking
Speaker 1: about before the show today. All right, if you would,
Speaker 1: let's say, when they made the coaching change and Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's let go, Mike McCarthy hired, if you would have
Speaker 1: told him that you're going into the seventh week of
Speaker 1: the season against Washington and you are not going to
Speaker 1: have Tyrn Smith, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin Lyle Collins, Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin or Dak Prescott on your offense, what do you
Speaker 1: think the change football game? I don't care whether you're
Speaker 1: playing in Washington or anybody. I think if you would
Speaker 1: have told Mike Mike McCarthy that before he took the job,
Speaker 1: he would have say that I passed. That's one of
Speaker 1: those things. You know what I used to joke with.
Speaker 1: I used to joke with Jason Garrett when when things
Speaker 1: like this would happen and I would look at them
Speaker 1: and we would do our our Friday pregame radio interview.
Speaker 1: We would tape it and I look at him and go,
Speaker 1: so you wanted to be a head coach? So what
Speaker 1: I wonder McCarthy's probably thinking, did I really want to
Speaker 1: come back and do this? I still have to wonder
Speaker 1: how many Jason Garrett fans out there are still out
Speaker 1: there as cowboy fans, and if they're calling for McCarthy's head,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the way those uh, the
Speaker 1: way those fans back in the day we'll call him
Speaker 1: for Jason Garrett's head. It's just amazing to see that
Speaker 1: we're having the same problems regardless of who is the
Speaker 1: head coach. Early on in the season, Man, I was
Speaker 1: giving Will McClay so much love, which I still do.
Speaker 1: It seems like all the moves have been made, even
Speaker 1: with the injuries that we've had. I'm still kind of
Speaker 1: surprised at the ineptness of the relationship between the coaches
Speaker 1: and the players. That is something from Mike McCarthy's standpoint,
Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd ever have. Of course, he had
Speaker 1: issues with Brett Farve. I'm sorry. With Aaron Rodgers, that's
Speaker 1: a given. That's a given. He's he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's Aaron Rodgers. But I thought that here that would
Speaker 1: be more of a I don't know, how can I
Speaker 1: say professional? Yeah, well, I wasn't gonna say that. I
Speaker 1: knew it's gonna be some issues, But I thought that
Speaker 1: we would go into this thing having the same success
Speaker 1: that mcca he had in Green Bay. I just assumed
Speaker 1: that same professionalism, that same non controversial career, you know,
Speaker 1: I would be here. I wanted I want. I wanted
Speaker 1: him to douse all of that hyperboly that Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: gives us all the time. Yeah, That's what I've wanted
Speaker 1: from him and still be winning and consistent. I just
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. Has there been Has there been
Speaker 1: ever a Cowboys head coach that the people, the fans
Speaker 1: haven't called for his head ever? Yes, I mean you
Speaker 1: didn't have social media time. Now, I was a media
Speaker 1: bay in the seventies, but yeah, I mean we're trying
Speaker 1: to run Tom out those first five seasons right now.
Speaker 1: Get rid of this guy. He didn't know what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Jimmy the first year, right, this is the guy you hired,
Speaker 1: and we go one in fifteen. We know what happened
Speaker 1: with Switzer, It happened with Gaily, it happened with Apple.
Speaker 1: Maybe Parcels got through it. I don't know, maybe Parcels
Speaker 1: got through it. But certainly Wade Wilson, I mean wa
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips certainly caught caught grief and and look what
Speaker 1: happened to Bill Parcells. He got run out of town
Speaker 1: after doing something amazing with the with the under talented,
Speaker 1: overachieving ball club. So yeah, that while he actually he
Speaker 1: actually decided he didn't want to go through it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to go through it anymore because he's
Speaker 1: never been through it. He crap like this to where
Speaker 1: coaches are afraid of him. The coaches are complaining to
Speaker 1: the owner that he's too tough on So yeah, to me,
Speaker 1: he was like, maybe I should go before I'm kicked out.
Speaker 1: So it was the same thing. He actually he actually
Speaker 1: couldn't deal with the loss that they suffered in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and he didn't want to come back and go through it. Man,
Speaker 1: what a loss. I think that one just just drained
Speaker 1: the energy out of him at at his age. But everybody,
Speaker 1: every coach, no coach, has been through here that hasn't
Speaker 1: caught grief. It's part of It's just like a Cowboys quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: but none of the Roger might be the only one
Speaker 1: that escaped grief. Well, it took him a while. It
Speaker 1: took a long while. No one was accustomed to his
Speaker 1: style of play. Yeah, if I recalled, I was a
Speaker 1: young kid, and I remember everyone was complaining that he
Speaker 1: scrambled too much. And that was also what Tom Langie's
Speaker 1: problem was with him as well. He wanted him to
Speaker 1: be a classic pocket passing quarterback, and that's why he
Speaker 1: didn't give him a job right away. I mean, if it,
Speaker 1: if it drives you to alternate possessions or alternate downs,
Speaker 1: no play, please give me a break. That is the
Speaker 1: worst move by a future Hall of Fame coach I
Speaker 1: think I've ever heard of. But we all survived. We
Speaker 1: all survived. And even that year they he finally made
Speaker 1: the decision on Roger, and what happened. They won every
Speaker 1: game the rest of the year, all the way to
Speaker 1: the Super Blow. He delayed his own success because of
Speaker 1: you know, because of a philosophy. But that's that's the
Speaker 1: way head coaches are. Don't get me started on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. The other thing on parcels is well, number one,
Speaker 1: he had already had skins on the wall and had
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame resume, but it was still up
Speaker 1: and down in his four years here. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: up makes it the playoffs the first year and then
Speaker 1: down the next year. Whatever. But what also won him
Speaker 1: points with the fans, I think and the media as
Speaker 1: the way he conducted his press office. I mean he
Speaker 1: had control of the message, you know, and he was
Speaker 1: His press conferences were great as far as telling story.
Speaker 1: He gave the media what they won, you know, which
Speaker 1: is good stuff to write about. And so forth. He
Speaker 1: was in at a commanding presence and so forth. Uh,
Speaker 1: And so that's gonna win you some points there. And
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of coaches in this league at all.
Speaker 1: There aren't many at all that are like that that
Speaker 1: uh that put it and he just did it natural.
Speaker 1: It was just his personality. It came easy to him. Uh.
Speaker 1: And some of it would be jabs at the media
Speaker 1: members or whatever, but uh, I used to love. But
Speaker 1: just we're listening to him talk at his press conferences,
Speaker 1: and I think that a lot of fans are probably
Speaker 1: like that too. That scored him some points. It was
Speaker 1: it was must listen reading. I guarantee that, you know.
Speaker 1: One of the first time I saw his act, it
Speaker 1: had to be. It was probably it might have been
Speaker 1: that eighty sixth season. Um. I was sent to uh
Speaker 1: New York to do stories on the Giants before the
Speaker 1: before the game, and uh, he would have this big
Speaker 1: the media all sat in this one room. It was
Speaker 1: a big, long table. It was like one of those
Speaker 1: King Arthur tables. I think that's what they called round table.
Speaker 1: And Bill bill Wood said at the head of the table,
Speaker 1: and everybody was in there and they would all just
Speaker 1: kind of swown over over Bill, you know, and he
Speaker 1: would come in and here's how he starts the press conference.
Speaker 1: I never forget this. He sits down. He looked at
Speaker 1: one of the reporters and he looked at him and said,
Speaker 1: are you serious? You you wrote that story that way?
Speaker 1: He go, why didn't you talk to me about it?
Speaker 1: You got it all wrong? And I'm going, oh, by
Speaker 1: this is greed. Right. But those guys, they were they
Speaker 1: were eating out of his hands, right. He just conducted
Speaker 1: the whole thing like like it was the Godfather, right,
Speaker 1: and he had all his minions. It was like it
Speaker 1: was he reminded me of what we had with this
Speaker 1: Kroma thing when Mayor Cuomo had the whole nation's attention
Speaker 1: with his briefs early on during this pandemic. And that
Speaker 1: was also like must see TV because he was always
Speaker 1: unapologetic in everything that that he's done. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: coach parcels and it's like Bill said, he's got the
Speaker 1: pelts already. So anything he says it comes from a
Speaker 1: point a place of credibility. So that's one thing that
Speaker 1: he always had. And of course having that new Jersey
Speaker 1: style down here in the South in Dallas, Texas, I
Speaker 1: thought it was it was it was like having I
Speaker 1: don't know, pastachios on scrambled edge or something. It just
Speaker 1: didn't fit, but it but you know, it worked, but
Speaker 1: he made it work. He looked at me. I was
Speaker 1: in the locker room waiting for Phil Simms to do
Speaker 1: an interview, and he looked at me, goes, what are
Speaker 1: you doing here? And so I told him who I was,
Speaker 1: and I go, well, who you want to talk to?
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I'm waiting for Phil Simms. He goes, oh,
Speaker 1: it must have smart reporters and doubts you know what
Speaker 1: the take and we're probably up against another break here.
Speaker 1: But I'll take that to the locker room too. As
Speaker 1: far as players go, and I think you'll find on
Speaker 1: successful professional sports teams. Let's take football for instance, you
Speaker 1: will find guys with that type personality, players in a
Speaker 1: locker room who will have that kind of relationship with
Speaker 1: the media where they'll call them out whatever, or they'll
Speaker 1: it's a good relationship, it's a good break. Take whatever
Speaker 1: you saw it on the nineties Cowboys with the several
Speaker 1: players on that team that ever sends Cowboys in the
Speaker 1: eighties with the same way the seventies Cowboys. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much we see that on the current crop
Speaker 1: of Cowboys, and of course this is a strange year
Speaker 1: because we don't have any interactions with them at all
Speaker 1: this year. But having those I think that's a sign
Speaker 1: of some leadership qualities there, and it's an a personality
Speaker 1: that translates into a confidence and it builds in a
Speaker 1: room and so forth. Dac has that ability. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got that those leadership qualities about him, But I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys could use more personalities like that. See
Speaker 1: the thing with Bill is he wasn't afraid of conflict
Speaker 1: if he had to say something to somebody. He said
Speaker 1: it in a matter of fact, Mike McCarthy. I think
Speaker 1: he said it yesterday when he was answering questions about
Speaker 1: supposedly a player to criticizing the coaching staff, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't have a He says, you need conflict. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with conflict whatsoever. And I remember
Speaker 1: Bill talking about that all the time, that you know,
Speaker 1: you had to have conflict, and he would he would
Speaker 1: perpetuate it right to the point where I remember him
Speaker 1: saying one day, he goes, you know what if you
Speaker 1: got a coach on your staff and it's just not
Speaker 1: working and you're spending more time worrying about that coach
Speaker 1: than you are about the stuff you're doing. You got
Speaker 1: to get rid of a get him out of the room.
Speaker 1: He goes because your energies all going the wrong way.
Speaker 1: One thing I'm thinking about the way I'm thinking about parcels.
Speaker 1: Parcels was good and micromanaging. That's what I liked about it.
Speaker 1: He would not leave anything to chance. I recall we
Speaker 1: were on at tending over run. I'm on the best
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL, probably the best defensive Giants have
Speaker 1: ever had, which is saying a lot, and I'm back
Speaker 1: there most of the time in some ball games. During
Speaker 1: that stretch, he was so good, our front seven did
Speaker 1: so well. I had nothing to do, and so Parce
Speaker 1: Sales must have seen that. A Belichick saw it. Pu
Speaker 1: Sales sends Belichick to talk to me, and he says, look,
Speaker 1: you need to do better. I said better what I
Speaker 1: don't know, but you need to do better. And that's it.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of lighting the fire under you, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you need to do better. Okay, So I'm running up
Speaker 1: to the pile now. I mean, I'm extra and everything
Speaker 1: I do, but it made me more alert in everything.
Speaker 1: So as a player, I appreciated that because you know,
Speaker 1: he made him come to me in private, and that's
Speaker 1: something where we had that connection. So that's the way
Speaker 1: he does it. That's the way he Michael manages. But
Speaker 1: you have to have an art to that and plus
Speaker 1: Seal's head and you know what, and he and he
Speaker 1: loved it. If you came back at him too, if
Speaker 1: you would give him brief about something, he just thought
Speaker 1: that was I remember one day he was working out.
Speaker 1: He was on his elliptical in there, and he came
Speaker 1: out of the weight room and his great sweatshirt was
Speaker 1: all discolored because of sweat, right, And I looked at him.
Speaker 1: I go, Bill, what'd you do? Hows yourself down? He
Speaker 1: was all I was on it for soul, And he goes,
Speaker 1: do you work out? You should try it? So he
Speaker 1: had Hey, he had a great sense of human and
Speaker 1: an extremely thick skin. That's what I like about it.
Speaker 1: Thick skin. Yeah, absolutely all right, Well, up against said
Speaker 1: break there there's one other guy that relates to this
Speaker 1: conversation and I had dealings with in baseball. That was
Speaker 1: Will Clark in the Rangers clubhouse. He knew everything that
Speaker 1: was going on, and they called him a sheriff, and
Speaker 1: all teams can use a sheriff in their Mississippi state. Well,
Speaker 1: Mississippi state, Yeah, Mississippi state. That's right, exactly, all right.
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Speaker 1: We got about five minutes left in the show taking
Speaker 1: on this Washington football team and the and the biggest
Speaker 1: matchup I think do you look at is the Cowboys
Speaker 1: makeshift at best offensive line against what is the strength
Speaker 1: of the Washington team. Those guys on the defensive line
Speaker 1: They've invested heavily in them, with four number one draft
Speaker 1: picks the last four years, plus Ryan carrying in another
Speaker 1: one they can sprinkle in so ever, so let's start
Speaker 1: with you. What are you thinking. I'm thinking that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna have some issues, more issues than usual
Speaker 1: in regards to finishing drives. I think the red zone
Speaker 1: they're going to be having some problems. I look for
Speaker 1: them still to win, as you guys know, every every week.
Speaker 1: That's my deal. I see the score of twenty three
Speaker 1: to fourteen, the field goals are gonna be a plenty,
Speaker 1: and my pick to click. He did a great job
Speaker 1: last week and it went undetected because the game was
Speaker 1: just so bad. But there was a reason that d
Speaker 1: Hop only had one big reception in the ball game
Speaker 1: on Monday. I thought that Trayvon Diggs was doing an
Speaker 1: excellent job. I'm hoping that in this game it will
Speaker 1: culminate in him playing well again. And also I'm looking
Speaker 1: for him to get his first pick in this particular
Speaker 1: ball game. They're gonna come at him. He'll probably be
Speaker 1: on Lauren is it McClaren mc. I can't remember how
Speaker 1: to say his name. Terry mclard copy on Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 1: And if he is, he's gonna get a lot of action.
Speaker 1: And I almost picked Zeke because Zeke is gonna be
Speaker 1: out for revenge. But I think Diggs is gonna be
Speaker 1: a guy that is gonna be very prominent in this
Speaker 1: ball game. He has no choice. Oh no, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be on on demand for the Washington team. I was making.
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell Harrison, if he doesn't get it
Speaker 1: this week, he'll get it next week. If Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: throws more passes like he did last night, across the field,
Speaker 1: across his body deep. Yes, so he was very fortunate.
Speaker 1: All right. I picked Zeke last week and unfortunately my yeah, well,
Speaker 1: but I also got twenty three Cowboys Washington twenty twenties
Speaker 1: the most I think they've the most they've scored in
Speaker 1: their five losses. I believe in a row. Uh so
Speaker 1: twenty three twenty and my pick to click Layton Vanderish
Speaker 1: is gonna be rounding in the foreman. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that, um boy, And I went and when
Speaker 1: I okay, hey is this a pick? Is this a
Speaker 1: pick him? Game? Did they even put a line on
Speaker 1: this game? I haven't even seen what it is. I
Speaker 1: don't know shows how much I pay attention. I'm sure
Speaker 1: our producer Chris Beam will tell us he's got one
Speaker 1: point Cowboys are one point favorite. Cowboys one point favorite. Okay,
Speaker 1: because if that's the case the game, I think, if
Speaker 1: they're one point favorites, then I'll pick him to win
Speaker 1: by one. Right, how's that I'll go twenty four twenty three,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, Everson on Zeke being the that's
Speaker 1: my pick to click. And I think it's obvious because
Speaker 1: he is the type player that he is and that
Speaker 1: is atypical. What's the week that he's had. I think
Speaker 1: he'll respond. And the interesting thing, I just want to
Speaker 1: see a game where they don't turn the ball over
Speaker 1: so many times in the first half and fall behind
Speaker 1: by twenty one points, so we can see what Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore's strategy really is on as a play caller uh
Speaker 1: this season, because you know, he's been passed happy by
Speaker 1: necessity so far this year because they've fallen behind by
Speaker 1: so much. And I want to see, Okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: settle this game down, not turn the ball over, and
Speaker 1: let's see how much they rely on the road and
Speaker 1: you almost got it. You almost got it Monday night.
Speaker 1: Right the first quarter, they had three forced, three punts
Speaker 1: in a row and the storm. But the problem with
Speaker 1: Zeke and I saw and as you look at I
Speaker 1: think it was his second fumble. You know, these guys
Speaker 1: are coming at it. And anytime running back fumbles, the
Speaker 1: first thing that happens is there's a jarring hit that
Speaker 1: kind of you know, shakes you a little bit. And
Speaker 1: then immediately following that, there's something else that happens, another
Speaker 1: collision with another player or another swipe of the arm
Speaker 1: that comes immediately after that jarring hit. And that happens
Speaker 1: with Zeke more than once. I would imagine any running back.
Speaker 1: Because you're running, you're trying to run the ball, you're
Speaker 1: going through the hole. Your tight end does not get
Speaker 1: a block. That linebacker came out that tight end and
Speaker 1: blasted Zeke, and that kind of it leads to other problems.
Speaker 1: So what you want to try and do is make
Speaker 1: sure you're running back doesn't take any flush hits that
Speaker 1: he doesn't see coming. He did not see that that
Speaker 1: that that blow coming from his peripheral. And that's because
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, the tight end totally missed on
Speaker 1: his block and got his running back blasted, and ever sudden,
Speaker 1: you just explain why the Cowboys aren't getting any takeaways
Speaker 1: as far as forced fumbles, because in order to do
Speaker 1: what you said you have to do, you got you
Speaker 1: have to get more than one person to the ball,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are having a hard time getting that
Speaker 1: one person to the ball. But it's less two or
Speaker 1: three can knock it out, which is why they need
Speaker 1: two tight ends on the interesting. All right, very good,
Speaker 1: get that belldozer out there right, All right, that does
Speaker 1: it for another week of mixed shots, and we've all
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys winning and moving back into first place
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Here is if they can get by
Speaker 1: this Washington football team on Sunday. All right, y'all, have
Speaker 1: a great weekend. We'll see you on Monday at one
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