1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: My next guest is the executive producer Laugh Mob Laugh Tracks, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: which is in the second season on True TV. But 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: let's go back. Let's go back. This is with me 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and him, you know, step into the world. Because he's 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: also co created with Russell Simmons the HBO Death Comedy Jam. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: He was working behind the scenes recruiting the best, unrecognized, 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: unknown or just starting out comedians in the world as 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: a producer, a talent scout, a good friend, many industry 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: influences considering him a career maker because he hitped my career. 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: I would not be sitting here if he had not 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: chosen me to be on Death Comedy Jam. We'll talk 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: about that during the interview. He surely can be credited 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: with discovering Bernie Mack, Dave Chappelle. I did Dave Chappelle 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: here and I did Death Comedy Jam together. Chris Tucker, 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Bill Bellaman, that's my board, got him on my Speed 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Died Secondly Entertainment. He's done my show Money Make Conversation 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: many times. Mike ELPs, that's a fool. Did the movie 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: with where Steve did it with be and say we 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: did that movie together. Monique, Monique, I did our TV 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: show The Parkers, Tracy Morgan that food know about him, 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: did a comedy concert that the Houston Arena and Houston, 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Texas with and a multitude of other comedians. I'm just 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: letting you know what he's done. He's allowed me to 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: have a lane of participation. Please welcome to money making conversations, 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: my man, Bob Sumner. Right now. Man, I'm so proud 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: of you. I don't know what you got that long? 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I said, you still got that long more? Absolutely, absolutely, 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling something. Let's let's go back, man, because you 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk about laugh Mark, which is a 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: really it's it's you know, I've watched several episodes. I'm 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: a fan of it because it's like a sketch comedy 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: show tied into a stand up comedy show, which is 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: really fascinating from a creative standpoint, because you know, I'm 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: watching that show and because of the way they produced 35 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and the stand up coming, I've already done with it. 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: That's excited about because I do want to talk about 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: our journey together and the comics and comedians lives. You 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: change and the facts changed the way we we look 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: at comedy today. From Steve Harvey to Eccentric Entertainment. Who's 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: on CBS right now, Dio hugually has a syndicated a 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: nationally syndicated show. And of course Bernie Mack, who would 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: always be legendary and what he did. Unfortunately health reasons 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: took him away. But there are other comics out there 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: who walked on that stage, who was established, who still 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: came on that stage and you know, built their brand out. 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: And we're talking like the you know, the Chris Tucker 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: did five minutes and then became an international star five 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: minutes on Death Comedy. You know, you know Andy Grifford, 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: he did Michael Jackson and become a superstar, saying wow, man, 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: let me, can I just think before we go into 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: all of that, you had something already that you pretty 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: much hit the nail on the head man Um in 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: terms of why why this show um was created, Laugh minds, 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: laugh tracks was really based on America. Really didn't know 55 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: how Death Comedy jam was built? You do? You do? 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: You know everybody always see the faces? Do you know 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: the big names? Definite? Like everybody thinks that Diana Ross 58 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: discovered the Jackson fives, and really it was Bobby Tella 59 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: from the Vancouver's. You know, people don't know that that part. 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: But um, what happened with me was I watched the 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: landscape of where comedy had gone out of the nineties, 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, out of the nineties. Man, everybody was getting 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the sitcoms. People was meeting people said, didn't know Steve, 64 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: but they came to Death Comedy Jam and got a 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: TV show. Tracy Morgan didn't know Martin, but he did 66 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: what he did and then he got on the right 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and show so many things like that, including you know, 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: I brought Dolomite to Deaf Comedy Jam. I bought while 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: man Steve the Deaf Comedy Jam to mix the new 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: with the old. And what happened is when Deaf Comedy 71 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Jam went off the air, and then the HBO brought 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: the Chris Rocks Show into light and things of that nature. 73 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: People don't understand that. And you know for a fact, 74 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: I was going all over the country finding these comedians 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: in little hole in the walls and this, that and 76 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the other, and it just became magical after a while. 77 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: But then all of that stopped and I kept the 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: show going on the road where Kevin Hart won a 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: contest for me Cocobe Brown wont to contest for me 80 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: se Ray Davis. So the talent was still there, but 81 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: we didn't really have a vehicle to for them. So 82 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: with that being said, you know, the two thousand and 83 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, some of these people started coming on, 84 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: but I knew that there was the next generation. Just 85 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: like after Michael Jordan's you had Kobe Bryant doing Lebron James, 86 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: the same thing goes with comedy. So I decided to 87 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: go to l A and trying to build the brand. Okay, 88 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: my own brand and and and laugh Mob is nothing 89 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: more than the affter them. For MOB is more of 90 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: Bob's best. So what I would do is I would 91 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: go into these these big offices and talk to these people. 92 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: But nobody really knew that it was Bob something that 93 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: did this. And I'm trying to bring them a sketch 94 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: show as possible so more fresh stand up. Nobody's hearing me. 95 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: So you know what happened. I said, I'll just do 96 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: it myself and do it in a certain way where 97 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: I can take all these stand up comedians who don't 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: have great tapes. You know, after the show, they're trying 99 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: to pedal their tapes, but you get the tape and 100 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: like um video from shows, comic view or whatever that 101 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: they've been or nobody wants that. They want something fresh. 102 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: So also you could take a fresh tape. If I 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: identify who deserves a half hour or hour special, I'll 104 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: shoot it myself and then try to sell it to 105 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: a showtime or HBO, which it actually worked. But I 106 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: took all of the sixteen hours of material that I 107 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: had the audio, and I treated it just like a 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving turkey. Okay, you take that material and just like 109 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: you take a turkey and you and you have the turkey, 110 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: then you turn it into uh um, a turkey sandwich, 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: U turkey, catch a roll um, you turn it into 112 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: turkey hash. You turn it into turkey. You know, you 113 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: just do that. And that's what I did with the 114 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: stand up. And we took the audio that had stories, 115 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: the comedians that had stories to tell, and some guys 116 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: out of my office decided that they're going to try 117 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: to take and turn them into comedy videos and we 118 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: put them on YouTube. We started getting sixty seventy million views. 119 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: Before you know it, it comes to networks trying to 120 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, how can we be a part of this 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: right here we are all. You know, first of all, 122 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: let's let's really if you watch the shows. If you 123 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: watch the show, I'm telling the stand up comic is 124 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: on stage, okay, during his routine, and then they will 125 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: seamlessly transition into a video that they're referencing their stand 126 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: up comic, and you're seeing. This is the cool thing 127 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: about it. The actor or actors that they've chosen are 128 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: lip sinking the dialogue from the comedian. I mean, dead on, 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: dead on. That's what I really loved about it because 130 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I mean, so whether it's a 131 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: child actor or an adult actor, they are matching it. 132 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, male, female, it doesn't matter. And that to 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: me is a female comedian or male comedian. That's what 134 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I really really loved about the show. Was like, wow, 135 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: this is really slick. You know, I got the re 136 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: enactment of the comedy routine, but to be able to 137 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: have the comic on stage and then to take give 138 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: you the visual of their joke. That's what you're doing, 139 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the visual of their joke while they're doing the routine. 140 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. Ball that's pretty pretty that's pretty pretty creative. Brother, 141 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Thanks man, thanks, but again, Jim, Jim, Marv, this kid, 142 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: jimmal and carlos Man. You know, we would just be 143 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: hanging out and be talking about different ideas and stuff. 144 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: And they sent me that first one on YouTube and 145 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: Led Grant with the kid with Tony Baker playing Red 146 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Glant and it was to the kid. The father didn't 147 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: want the kid, right, you know. And then I had 148 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: with g and you know, this is long before the phenomenon, 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, but that's the beat of you. You have 150 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: an eye for talent. When we come back, gonna talk 151 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: about you. How he discovered Rushawan McDonald as he told 152 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: me no, and then I had to do some work 153 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: to get on death Comedy. Jab. This is our relationship 154 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: really started. Bob Something that brother, I'm so happy. I'm 155 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: so proud of you. Just hearing your voice. I love 156 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: that little grabbling voice to yours. Bad. I know I'm 157 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: talking to my man, Bom Something. He created it. He 158 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: made us all man. He opened a gateway of success 159 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: for African American comedians in a very general market world. 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more money making conversations. I just 161 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald and you're listening to money making conversations. 162 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: He's on the show. When I said he's on the show, 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: is that the executive producer of Laugh made that's m 164 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: O B B Laugh Tracks, which is in its second 165 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: season on True TV. But the heart of our conversation 166 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: is relationships. Uh, you know, how do you extend a 167 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: body of work over years, over decades? How do you 168 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: how do you allow comedy? Like some people said, comedy 169 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: can be uh, throwback comedy can be current comedy, especially 170 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: nowadays when comedy is being a PC me too. You know, 171 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: you can't do the jokes that you did in the naties. 172 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: You know, in fact, some people comed who done jokes 173 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: in the nanties have gotten in trouble because of the 174 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: people went back and found it on on social media, 175 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: founding on an old comedy special. So when I look 176 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: at your show that you're doing now, Bob, you know 177 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. You know, in Death Death Comedy 178 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Jam came out. You know I did, I taped in 179 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: the N two. How how's your how's your view on 180 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: stand up comedy today? With the rules being changed so much? 181 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting how the rules have changed. 182 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: Where you know, I I go back to the days 183 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: when you could smoke cigarette, you had cigarette commercials. You know, 184 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: I go, I go back to the days when you 185 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: couldn't watch Elvis from the waist down, you know, and 186 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: it was back then, and now you have comedy. The 187 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: comedians can't be politically you know, they have to be 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: politically correct and everything. Yet on your smartphone you can 189 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: watch porny. Like I don't, I don't understand what what's 190 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: going on in terms of I I was always told 191 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: that it was a thing called freedom of speech, right, 192 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: but now it doesn't seem like it's it's flowing that way, 193 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't know what to say 194 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: or do about it. But I also think that part 195 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: of the reason why. And I have this term called 196 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: social medias, okay, and those are those comedians that you 197 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: see on YouTube for three minutes being like silly. Those 198 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: are the people that are getting booked now because they're 199 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: not saying anything, you know, they're not saying anything relevant 200 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: to how people are living. And that's what stand up 201 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: for me was stand up was an art, not a hustle, 202 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: right right. So so I'm kind of like, I'm kind 203 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: of like toring. Even when I look at David, you 204 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: know the six stays. You know, he's the same stand 205 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: up commuting that he was when I met him when 206 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: he was eighteen years or you know what I mean. 207 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: It's just that the things that he was saying then 208 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: nobody was really paying attention to. But now since he's 209 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: become a star, people are dissecting everything he says. But 210 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: everything he says is real life stuff, right, So I 211 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't know how to take it. Yeah, well, 212 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: I know that that as a as a stand up 213 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be stand up till I die, you know, 214 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: because I'm naturally funny. I don't go out there and 215 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: do set routines. But I know. And when Death Comedy 216 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: Jam came out on HBO, uh, you had to audition 217 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: live or you could send a tape to Mr Bob something. 218 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Well Roa McDonald but got his best tape since the Barb, 219 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: and Barb was frank. He said, Rashan, look listen to Rashan. 220 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: You are funny, but all your performances are in front 221 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: of white audiences, he said. He said, I don't know 222 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: if your comedy will translate like that. He said, do 223 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: you have to go and show me what you can 224 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: do in front of an audience that their favorites with 225 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: death comedy Jam does No. He was just protecting me. 226 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: But Bob didn't want to do was just he wouldn't. 227 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't putting people out there just be booking him. 228 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: He had an eye for the understanding. This is the 229 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: market we're going after. What you're doing over there, you 230 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: kill it, you kill it, but it may not translate. 231 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: And until you can show me that it will translate, 232 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: I gotta hold off on the opportunity with death comedy Jam. 233 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: So so what I had to do. I had to 234 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: go to Oakland Ball. Bob said, Hey, I said, Bob, 235 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: they have an Oakly Comedy competition. He has the right 236 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: place to go with shall that's the right place to go. 237 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: And I went out there. I went out there and 238 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: I killed. I made the finals of the competition, and 239 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: Bob said, you know something, you can do death comedition 240 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: and he booked me. But I had to work. I 241 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: had to work, you know. I. You know the thing 242 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: about it, The reason I tell people that story is 243 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: that it shows you that you had rules I could have. 244 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: I could have powered it. I could have bad mouth 245 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: box on it. But he should look at it, Bro, 246 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: You're funny because I'm not in the business of embarrassing you. 247 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: A book and a show with comics, you don't deliver 248 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: results on the show, I lose my job too. Yeah. 249 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: The funny thing about that, though, is, you know, the 250 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: Bay Area Comedy Competition is finally coming back after this 251 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: long high. Edita also, I think that that that was 252 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: very important for a stand up comedian to see if 253 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: they really had the chops and not that really differentiated 254 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: the real comedians with the comics, and see you as 255 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: a real comedian and you was able to take it. 256 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: He was able to take what I had said to 257 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: you and work on it, and then you came out 258 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: there and it was like yes, and Bob was right. 259 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: I just shifted up a little bit. Now, I just 260 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: shifted up a little bit because if I just walked 261 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: out that, you know, that's a beauty. And in our relationship, 262 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, open a very popular comedy club called the 263 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Hip Hop Comedy Stuff. He came down to Houston audition 264 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: and comedians there. So that's what we're talking about relationship. 265 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: It was not only from a standpoint he and I 266 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: shared the same love giving people opportunities, finding fresh talent 267 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: and exposed them to a bigger model. And that's what 268 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: your show doing right now with with Laugh Mall Laugh Tracks, 269 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: which is in the second season on True TV. Now 270 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: you know the other part to it, though, I just 271 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: wanted to add and is you didn't have to. It 272 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: didn't just because that Cham didn't mean to go out 273 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: there and just be runchy. But it's such about where 274 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: you are with with your stand up you know what 275 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean. It's just about being funny. You was never runchy, 276 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: but you was able just to be like funny with it. 277 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: And what happens with last Mob Laugh Tracks is I'm 278 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: thinking stand up comedy, the jokes that you could paint 279 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: the picture of the story that you're telling. It ain't 280 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: a one minute on and off. It's a three minute 281 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: story with the beginning, a middle, and an end. You know. 282 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: So I think that what we're doing this last on 283 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: our Lab Tractors, they're bringing stand up comedy back to 284 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: the part form that it was so you can see 285 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: more of African Americans and you know, just people with 286 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: flavor even have stands, um have sitcoms because you know, 287 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: from Ray Romano to d l Too to Berney. Their 288 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: sitcoms was based off of their stand up. You know, 289 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: that's where it is. Yeah, you know, it's really funny 290 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: because you know what I was looking at. I was going, like, 291 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: my routine I should do on snoring. How's it the 292 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: people who fall asleep? Who snore managed to fall asleep first? 293 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: You know that we are a perfect routine for what 294 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: you're doing, because that whole time, while I'm doing a routine, 295 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: you see a guy in the bed, he's snowing, his 296 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: wife looking at him going sounded like a fog horn 297 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: over there. All that are out of the house. You know, 298 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: you know we're doing a little So that's so I was. 299 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was having so much fun 300 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: looking at the creative side of it. But I'm gonna 301 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: just tell you what sold me on. It was the 302 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: lip sync being able to match up the dialogue of 303 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: what the actors were saying with what the comedian was saying. 304 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: That was, I'm gonna tell you some man that is 305 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: dead on from a comedic standpoint, Dude, I participate in 306 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: be a part of the end of day of the 307 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: week because you're not. You're not. Because I remember a 308 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: long time ago, you know, when they had BT comic view, 309 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: they tried to do something like this, but they did it. 310 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: So but if the comics came across in a negative light, 311 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: and so this right here is so positive. Plus, man, 312 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: you can just drop those videos on social media, go 313 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: viral because you're telling the story because, like you said, 314 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: it really is on a bigger perspective. Whether it's Tim 315 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: Allen you know what I'm saying, or like s Ray Romano, 316 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Uh Seinfeld, Steve Harvey. All these people are doing are 317 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: taking license of their comedic life and putting it too 318 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: a half hour sitcom. That's what you're doing with multiple 319 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: community is the other part to it. Though the other 320 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: part too, it is okay, you take a song, all right, 321 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: No different than and when you talk about the lip 322 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: syncing and stuff, people would go to soul training and 323 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: take your lips and soul. Right did you take this? 324 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: You take a joke like you teat to the joke 325 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: like it's your soone, okay. Instead of making a music 326 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: video now you're making in comedy video base once of 327 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: your three minutes. Yes, so now what happens is you 328 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: own that thing. So when other people were out of 329 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: here like it was this thing and people could have 330 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: the same premise, but how do you present it? This 331 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: is the way you present that you're my love is Free, 332 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: And somebody else might have the same song my Love 333 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: is Free, but it's done a different way. You know 334 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's your, it's your song, it's 335 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: your it's your joke. I'll tell this is talking to 336 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Bob Sumner. He's the executive producer of Laugh Mall Laugh Tracks, 337 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: which is in the second season on True TV, and 338 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: incredible founder of Comedians. He's an impact of careers, not 339 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: only in my careers, but careers like Cedric the entertainer 340 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: of course, Bernie mc monique. The list goes on, Chris Tucker, 341 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, people who have changed 342 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: the landscape. You know, I look at you like a 343 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: grandfather of all of us because of the fact that you, 344 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, you touched us in such a cool way. 345 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Ball when you look at you know, like when I 346 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: looked at the fact of what Steve and I did 347 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: for daytime television, you know, family, if you talk show, 348 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: and I look at Cedric when I was interviewing Cedric said, 349 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: that's et Cedric seeing you on CVS, I said, I 350 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: know you did the w B. I know you did 351 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: the but you on CBS now and he went, You're 352 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: right with Shawn, that's a big difference. You know, I 353 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: look at that man, you know, I look at I. 354 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: I just I just marvel man at the uh at 355 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: what what what's being accomplished across the board? Well? What 356 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: what is your take on all that? Man? Because because 357 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: all you were doing was just looking for known talent 358 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: or some talent that was known and putting on a show. 359 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: HBO green lit the show and and it turned into 360 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: a phenomenon, man selling out arenas. Wow, Well my thing 361 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: is this man? And in my lane, nobody was really 362 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: doing a lot of things I was doing, Like, for one, 363 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, I started out in the music industry and 364 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: I was a DJ, and I bought the DJ constant 365 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: to commity. You know, That's why I had plead the 366 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: d jay on the Comedy Game, because I was doing 367 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: that in my little rooms that I had, And you 368 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: know I always did that. Um Berry Gordy and what 369 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: he did with um taking all these young talented artists 370 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: out of the boost the projects and what have you 371 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: and churched them into superstars and music I pretty much 372 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: wanted to do that same thing this comedy, and a 373 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: couple of a couple of quotes that happened recently that 374 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I saw that was kind of interesting. Mike Epps in 375 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Every magazine stated that I was like the Yoda or 376 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: Mozart of And it was crazy because just Um recently 377 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Academy Award winner who's one of my best friends, Regina King, 378 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: we was on the teleconference and she was trying to 379 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: explain to the people who I was, and she said, 380 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: if anybody saw Reggie Hudland's Um Black Godfather, The Story 381 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: of Clarence Ablon, the documentary, she said, well, if Clarence 382 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Aberhood was you know who he is. To the music industry. 383 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: She said that I'm the black guy from the comedy. 384 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: And when you look at it, when it goes back 385 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: to the continent, you know, there's there's only a few 386 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: comedians who I haven't had an imprint on that are 387 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: doing big things right now. And one of them, like 388 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: when we talked about you know, your your career, and 389 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: how I had said to you you needed to like 390 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: try to find you know, what you're doing, so you 391 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: could come over to you know, the urban side of things. 392 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: The same thing happened with a young lady by the 393 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: name of one to site. Okay, I'm so happy to 394 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: see Wanda in her career, but she fell in right 395 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: when Deaf Jim was moving out, and and and and 396 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: the trip is. Wanda used to be my go to, 397 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: like you as my Houston go to. One of the 398 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Wanda would be the one who would set up my 399 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: showcases in the d c A. But she never once said, Bob, 400 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing this for you put me on the show 401 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: was even about that. She was just going about it 402 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: her way because she knew how to be entrepreneurial. Then 403 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: she was looking at she was doing this stuff and 404 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: now look at her the big time to produce it 405 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: and that thing. I'm so proud of her, you know, 406 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: but it's just it's ways to do it. Because I 407 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: still have some comedians from back in the day. They're 408 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: still upset me because they didn't get there because the 409 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: right right right right right right right right right right. 410 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Well you, Bob, thank you for coming on my show. Um, definitely, Uh. 411 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: This show has been amazing money making conversation because it 412 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: allowed me to really realize my personal impact in the 413 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: industry and then talk to people who are making an 414 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: impact even today, decades later, and you're one of the people, 415 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: one of the stars of establishing a brand of comedic 416 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: comedic talent in the industry as so many different levels. 417 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Bob Summer, executive Sumner, executive producer of 418 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: Laugh Mob Laugh Tracks, which is on in the second 419 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: season on True TV and you can see it on 420 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: Friday nights. Bob, thank you for calling my show my man. 421 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Brother. Listen one last thing, you know, 422 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm also of Curative Comedy at the Apollo Theater. See 423 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: see see now that come on, now we're gonna let's 424 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna extend this interview. Talk about that. Now. See see 425 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna do to me, Bob, what you 426 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: ain't gonna like? So, by the way, by the way, 427 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: when I went out to l A to build my 428 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: brand web, I went to the comedy store. When I 429 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: started giving comedians an opportunity there who wasn't getting the 430 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: opportunity then as a thing, as time went by, you know, 431 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: some thing's happening over there that was not under my control. 432 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, um, ceremoniously, um just scored it away. Racis. 433 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: But you know, God is so good. As a matter 434 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: of fact, chicken is good. God is great, Okay, And 435 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: I had an opportunity. I got a phone call from 436 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the world famous Apollo Theater to see if I would 437 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: be interested in helping them bring the comedy, you know, 438 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: comedy back. So what we did was we um we 439 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: we actually brought in the first three non musical performers 440 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: into the Apollo Walker thing, and that would be Red Fox, 441 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: Richard Pryor in the late Greek um Jackie Mom's Maze. 442 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: And that just kicked us off into a series that 443 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: we do called The Apollo Comedy Club. And we're five 444 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: years in over there, and what I'm doing is just 445 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: what the Apollo does. Stars are born, legends are made. 446 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm showcasing a lot of the next generation. There's one 447 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: guy in particular, UM named Marshall Brandon, who I honestly 448 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: believe is the next Bernie Max slash Robin Having. He 449 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: captivates audiences like that, but nobody really knows who he 450 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: is yet. But you and I we're gonna talk. Hey, Bob, 451 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: look at just a twenty Roshan and Bob, this is 452 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: what I've been doing all my life. This is what 453 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: you've been doing all your life. We just have not 454 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: produced anything together, but understand that will change in twenty 455 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: Bob something, the incredible talent, Scole, the incredible producer. Just 456 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: just google his name. Is you any r first name Bo,