1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. First of all, Merry Christmas, 2 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: What a day around our world? And today we put 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: murder and mayhem aside and we focus on something good. Heroes, 4 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: but not just ordinary heroes, Pet heroes. Crime Stories with 5 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Let's start off with one of my favorite 6 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: pet heroes, Killian Listen. After moving to Charleston last year, 7 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Benjamin and Hope Jordan needed to find a babysitter for 8 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: their then seven month old son, Finn. It didn't take 9 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: long for the couple to find someone. We felt like 10 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Alexis was a good fit at the time. They hired 11 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty one year old Alexis Kahn for the job, who 12 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: came up clean in a background check. However, their confidence 13 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: in Kahn didn't last too long. About five months into 14 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: her being our babysitter, we started notice that our dog 15 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: was very defensive of our son. Whenever she would come 16 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: in the door, he was very aggressive towards her, and 17 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: a few times we actually had to physically restrain our 18 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: dog from going towards her. With me and I'll star 19 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 1: panel to break you down and put it back together again. 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags and the host off 21 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: today with doctor Wendy on kBq at Wendy Patrick PhD 22 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: dot com. We're now psychiatrists joining us out of the 23 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor Angela Arnold Chase at Angela Arnold MD 24 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: dot com. Former police Chief John's Creek, twenty five year 25 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: US on the fours now PI and Polygrapher Chris Buyers 26 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Investigations and polygraph dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, 27 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Joseph Scott Morgan. 28 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Special guests joining us today the Atlanta Dog Whisperer, dog 29 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: behaviorists with USK nine specializing and treating rehabbing dogs and 30 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: you can find her at Usknine dot com, our special 31 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: friend Angie wood But first to Ran Kaputo, Lead news 32 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: anchor WDBO Orlando Ray. I will never forget when I 33 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: hired the first babysitter to be with the twins in 34 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: New York. While I would go to h LLN and 35 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: typically I would stay with them, bathe them, feed them, 36 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: get them ready for bad, I would cut out at 37 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: five thirty, fight the cross town traffic, and very often, 38 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: depending on what programs I did that night, wouldn't get 39 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: home till ten thirty or eleven o'clock at night. First 40 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: of all, I tricked the whole place out with baby cams, 41 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: ran background checks on everybody, and was so freaked out. 42 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I actually ended up getting two nurses, one worst nurse 43 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: to watch the other nurse while she watched the twins. Okay, 44 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: that's how freaked out I was because of all the 45 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: stories we hear, but seemingly in this case, the dog 46 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: knew what humans couldn't figure out. Tell me about this 47 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: little baby. Tell me about the dog. Let's start out 48 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: the get go. So they hire a babysitter. Who is she? 49 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: Her name is Alexis con Nancy And like a lot 50 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: of folks, a lot of parents. Oh did you say 51 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: con is in c O n h A n con 52 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Mmmm okay, go ahead, Yeah, and you know the parents, 53 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: they have what means to do background checks and they 54 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: be searched for they were responsible and it came up clean. 55 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: So what they thought is they found a really responsible 56 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: person to care for their child. But that wasn't the case. 57 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: You know, I will never forget Joe Scott. I think 58 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: you were there when I went to crime Con. It 59 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: was being held in Indianapolis, and I was going to 60 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: go moderate a panel about an ongoing investigation, and I 61 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: let my husband picked the babysitter. Of course, I talked 62 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: to the babysitter first, but then I found out it 63 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: was fromcare dot Com and I nearly went through the 64 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: roof because I had covered a case where a care 65 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: dot com babysitter had hit a baby. Well, this woman 66 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: couldn't that we got. I run out of the panel 67 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: and say I have to take a bathroom break, run 68 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: to the hotel room and spy on the babysitter. She 69 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: was wonderful, she was perfect. They were playing some kind 70 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: of a board game. So I popped in like I 71 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: had just stopped by. I fake and she said, you 72 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: know what, there's a beautiful walkway along the water. I'm like, no, 73 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: nowhere near the water. State in this room. Do not 74 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: leave this room. But my point is you can run 75 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: a background check, you can do everything possible, and you 76 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: still may not find out about the babysitter. Are absolutely right. 77 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: You never know what someone is up to outside of 78 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: this kind of you know, faux electronic field that we 79 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: have out here. We can throw out all these sensors 80 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: and try to detect what somebody's actually going but she 81 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: actually doing. But you can't look into their hearts. You 82 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: certainly can't look into their minds. You know what's interesting 83 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: to doctor Angela Arnold joining us today's psychiatrists out of Atlanta, 84 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Arnold, the family, the mom and dad didn't pick 85 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: up on anything, but the dog killing would bear teeth 86 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: and growl and LUNs toward the babysitter. That's a big indicator. 87 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I always say listen to your hunches because they're not 88 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: just hunches. You're picking up on something that even your 89 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: mind may not be able to decipher, Doctor Angie, And 90 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you know what, nitsa also just for everybody that's listening 91 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: out there, I also believe that as much as you 92 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: as much as you feel like you trust this person 93 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: that you've hired, don't really ever trust anybody completely. Don't. 94 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: It's a baby that can't speak, So yes, you have to. 95 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: You have to watch what your dog is doing. You're 96 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have a dog. You have to watch 97 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: what your baby's doing. Does the baby does the baby 98 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: recoil a little bit when this person comes into the room. 99 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: But never trust anybody completely. You know, that's a good 100 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: point because Wendy Patrick, I would watch the twins and 101 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: when the babysitter came in, they acted happy, and I 102 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: think that's a really good indicator. I like doctor Angie 103 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: saying to watch the way the baby responds or the 104 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: way in this case, the dog responds. Wendy Patrick, that's 105 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: exactly right, Mancy. That's what my book is about. Red flags. 106 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: You can tell the dynamic between people by the way 107 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: they respond to each other. I mean, think about the 108 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: cases that you've prosecuted, the stalkers, the domestic abusers. It's 109 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: the way someone tenses up, the way their eyes look different, 110 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 1: the way their muscles tense. They react differently depending on 111 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: what somebody else is like and what that reaction is like. 112 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Asal tells you a lot about the relationship. And we 113 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: think that dogs can't pick these things up, they absolutely can. 114 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: This was a baby bodyguard in this case. And basically, 115 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: kudos for Killian. This is the kind of thing that 116 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Tip's parents thought as to what the strangers they bring 117 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: their homes are really like to Angie, would the Atlanta 118 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Dog Whisperer at USK nine dot com, We were just 119 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: listening to our friend Harve Jacobs at WCSC Live five. 120 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: He says that at times the mom and dad actually 121 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: had to restrain the dog from lunging toward the babysit 122 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: or what does that tell you, Angie Wood, Well, it 123 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 1: definitely tells me that the dog knows that that lady 124 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: was evil on the inside, even though she projected kindness 125 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: on the outside. He can't lie to an animal. They 126 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: don't speak, so therefore they feel you. They don't they 127 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: don't listen to your words. They feel who you are, 128 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: who your soul is. And if my dog doesn't like 129 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: somebody and they're typically friendly, which is what I read 130 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: about this dog, then by all means my red flag 131 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: is going ting ting king and I'm listening. Well, that's 132 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: tough for us because fat boy, who was bill to 133 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: me as the thoroughbred dogs and at the pound, so 134 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: not thoroughbred anything outside of me who feeds him every day, 135 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: my husband, the children, and my mother who lives with us, 136 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: he growls and barks at everybody. Unkend. Yeah, he's nervous 137 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: and Jackie he doesn't grow Yeah, it's not growl a Jackie. 138 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: Everybody else, everybody. They can't all be bad people, so 139 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: he's not that perfect of a barometer. So what is 140 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: it that the dog knows that people don't know Angie. Well, 141 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: they have a non verbal language, so therefore they feel 142 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: your feelings, they feel your vibe, they know what's going 143 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: on with you. And if your sideways, they understand. But 144 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: if your dog is typically nervous and growls at everybody, 145 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of normal. You're not nervous aggress He is 146 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: not nervous. He gets down. Have you ever seen Snoopy 147 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: and the comic strip? He gets down and Snoopy mode, 148 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: His legs bowl out. He gets like that far off 149 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: the ground, his tail points out one way and his 150 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: nose points the other way, and he like kind of 151 00:09:46,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: creeps toward the poor unsuspecting delivery person. Crime stories with 152 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:14,239 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Guys, we are talking about real live heroes 153 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: that were furry coats. We're talking about pet heroes, and 154 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: we're starting off with a babysitter. This is a sweet 155 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: dog Killian who goes into a tacmode every time the 156 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: babysitter comes around. Take a lesson again to Harve Jacob's 157 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: WCSC Live five Knees, the now suspicious parents had a plan. 158 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Hope suggest that they place an iPhone under the couch 159 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: and let the phone record what happens while they weren't work. 160 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: When the couple got home, they listened to the tape 161 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: and were horrified by what they heard. It started with cussing, 162 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: then you hear slap noises, and his crying changes from 163 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: a distress cry to a pain And I just wanted 164 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: to reach through the audio tape, go back in time 165 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: and scrab them up to know that five months I 166 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: had handed my child to a monster, not knowing what 167 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: was going on in my house for that day. Charleston 168 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: City Police arrested Khan a few weeks later, as she 169 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: confessed to the crime. Yesterday, she pleaded guilty to assault 170 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: and battery. The sentence one to three years in prison. 171 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: As part of her plea, Khan also will be placed 172 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: at a child abuse registry, which means she will not 173 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: be allowed to work with children. All thanks you hero 174 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: dog Killian and the Jordans say, had our dog not 175 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: alerted us to trouble, had my wife's instincts not said 176 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: we need to make something happen, it could have been 177 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Fin that was killed. You never know. And I'm looking 178 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: at photos of this little boy right now, and to 179 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: imagine that this dog, this little baby was slapped and mistreated. 180 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,479 Speaker 1: We find out that the twenty two year old babysitter 181 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: con had to serve at least one year of three 182 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: year sentence and as you just heard, register as a 183 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: child abuser. Take a listen to the parents speaking out. 184 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Killian is a very late back dog, Hope Box. When 185 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: someone comes to the door that you know, once they 186 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: come in and he knows that that person is okay, 187 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: he's fine, you know, he shines, stays away. But after 188 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: a while, Kilian actually started to after the Barton. You 189 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: would actually be aggressive towards her, the hair on his 190 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: on his neck with raves and um. Towards the end, 191 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: I actually had to stop Henson join fourth and that 192 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: has never done that before. Wow. What's really interesting here 193 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: is that your dog instantly became protective of the baby 194 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: and was thus able to alert you. It's interesting how 195 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: dogs have such amazing connection, right. He definitely was protecting 196 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: those in front of the pack. You are hearing Benjamin 197 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: and Hope Jordan's speaking to emotional Molo TV on the 198 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: dog believing that the baby was the youngest member of 199 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: the pick. Straight back to Angie Wood, the Atlanta Dog 200 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: whisperer at uskin dot com. What does that mean, Angie, Well, 201 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: this was abnormal behavior for this particular dog who tend 202 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: to be a little reserved yet friendly, and to behave 203 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: in this abnormal way tells us that the dog has 204 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: had some association, some experience that was not delightful around 205 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: this human. Thank god the parents listened, and really we're 206 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: in tune to their own instincts to put the iPhone 207 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: under the sofa. And I'm right on with you that 208 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: every square foot or inch of your home should be 209 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: covered by a camera when a stranger is watching your baby. 210 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention away from hero dog killing in 211 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: to another hero dog, an abused shelter dog much like 212 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: our dog, fat Boy, that we got at a pound, 213 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: along with our cat Cinnamon, named by my daughter. And 214 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: of course, believed or not, there are rescue guinea pigs 215 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: Abby and Chloe. Believe me it's true. I clean their 216 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: cage every morning. At six fifty five am, an AB's 217 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: shelter dog Peanut now held as a hero. How did 218 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: it all start? Take a listen to Mark Calman at 219 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: TV six just after eleven am Friday, Delta County Sheriff's 220 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: responded to a call about a child found alive in 221 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: a ditch in rapid River. The child was found naked 222 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: and taken to a nearby neighbor's house to wait for 223 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: authorities to arrive. The child's parents were subsequently located and 224 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: the child was removed from the home. The child is 225 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: fine and as well and is in good hands as 226 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: we speak. There was one other child that was located 227 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: in the home. That child was removed as well. Into 228 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: my knowledge, both those children are together in a foster care. 229 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Take on a prosecuting attorney, Phil Strom said that the 230 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: investigation into the situation is just beginning. It is just beginning. 231 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Straight out to Ray Kimputo lead news that encourage w dB, 232 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh what happened on the chilly day? This was around Escanoba, Michigan. 233 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: That's the northern part of the state, really right around 234 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: week Superior, and it was thirty two degrees offside. Wait 235 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: a minute, I gotta tell you something, Ray, I've been 236 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: to some of the great lakes. I hope to go 237 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: to all of them. And I went tried to go 238 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: down to the water and it was so cold and windy. 239 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean these lakes. I mean it looks like an ocean. 240 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: You can't even see the end of it. They're so huge. 241 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: And the wind was so powerful coming off It's like 242 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: walking along the ocean at stormtime. It nearly knocked me over. 243 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: The wind was so fierce near the Great Lakes, at 244 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: least that Great Lake. So I'm sorry I got side checked. 245 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about a child being near that 246 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: windy lake. Go ahead, Yeah, when the auntie, I grew 247 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: up just off Lake Ontario, and at this time the 248 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: year looks like party. We're saying it is hell warmed 249 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: over because it's different. It's not like being by the 250 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: ocean in the winter. It's it's the waves and the 251 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: cold and the wind. It's very inhabitable. But this, this 252 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: is the conditions this little girl. It was around Lebanham. 253 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: She she got out and his dog just starts barking 254 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: instinctively and had a feeling that something was outside. So 255 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: so a little Peanut starts running around and the owner 256 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: opens the door and the dog just just bolts off. 257 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture of Peanut right now, and 258 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Peanut is a perfect name for this dog. He's a 259 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: mixture of honey, blonde and light brown, and he's got 260 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: beautiful amber looking eyes literally with partially a pink nose 261 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: with brown on either side. And it maybe a girl 262 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: dog because he's wearing the dog is wearing a pink collar. 263 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: I'm just guessing, but it's amazing to me how this 264 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: rescue dog, Peanut, an abused shelter dog, is being held 265 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: as a hero for alerting her brand new owners to 266 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: a naked three year old girl found curled up and 267 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: barely alive outside. You know, to you, Angie Wood, the 268 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta dog Whisperer dog behaviorist at USK nine dot com, 269 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people pay to have a thoroughbred dog, 270 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: specifically pen agreed. Um. I know I have a family 271 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: member that loves they. Let's see the is it King 272 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: Charles Cavalier Charles Cavalier Spaniel? Yes, yeah, And there's a 273 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: royal in there. There's a royal cavalier, then there's a 274 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: regular cavalier. I don't know the deaf, but they're into 275 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: the royal cavaliers. And I got to tell you they're 276 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: so sweet. We went for the variety and you know, 277 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the dog has Our dog has become attached to his 278 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: Christmas sweater and I've never been one for dressing dogs 279 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: and people clothes, but you know, we can't get it 280 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: off of him, so I guess they'll wear it till 281 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: next Christmas. Long story short, What do you think is 282 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: the difference between a shelter dog and a pedigree dog, 283 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: If any I mean Peanut apparently was abused and was 284 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: rescued at a shelter. I don't see, quite frankly, any 285 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: differing except for the reason that we bred dogs, right, 286 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: so pure bred dogs, we humans bred them to do 287 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: specific task for us. But a mutt, you know, is 288 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: a blend of all of these dogs, and a nose 289 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: as a nose as a nose, you know, and a 290 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: dog as a dog. So little Peanut understood that something 291 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: was going on outside of our home and our environment, 292 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: that something was different, that there was a human out there. 293 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: And she says that she smelled it and immediately alerted 294 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: people because just instinctually in her brain should understand something's wrong. 295 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: This is not normal. This is not only what happens 296 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: crime stories. With Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about 297 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: a hero shelter dog who had been horribly used and 298 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: take into a shelter that saves the life of a 299 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: three year old little girl found naked, curled up in 300 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: a ditch near death. Now, the owner says that Peanut 301 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: had been acting strangely all morning and had been running 302 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: up and down the stairs of their home, barking and yelping. Now, 303 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: if that were normal, the owner may not have noticed. 304 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: But even fat Boy, who goes crazy all the time, 305 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. He would not run up and down 306 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: the steps barking and acting crazy. You know, Angie Wood, 307 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: I've always been highly allergic to cats until I took 308 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: in a stray that I couldn't get anybody else to 309 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: take when I was a prosecutor living in midtown Atlanta, 310 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: and the poor little kitten would come up crying, hungry, 311 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: and I could tell it was just so thin. So 312 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: I started feeding the cat solid blight. I named it Coco, 313 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: and Coco, you know, became one of my life long loves. 314 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: I had Coco for nineteen years, and one night, Coco, 315 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: out of the blue. It was a boy cat jumped 316 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: up on the bed where I was working on a case. 317 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: Of course, like midnight, at ted on the bed. I'm like, Cocoa, 318 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing? He had never done anything like 319 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: that at all. And I called my then husband and said, 320 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: do you know what co coach just did? Got on 321 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: the bed with me while I'm working Anti TI right 322 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: in front of me, and he went, where you need 323 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: to put cocoa outside. I'm like, you know what, I'm 324 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: taking cocoa to the emergency room because this is so 325 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: out of character for this cat to have ever done. 326 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: And guess what, the cat was sick. So what I'm 327 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: saying is for this dog to be running up down 328 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: the stairs barking frenetically was a sound of alarm to 329 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: his human owners. Indeed, it was a sound of alarm. 330 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: It's like something is awry here, something's not normal. So 331 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: bad dog definitely smelled and that baby in the ditch 332 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: out there, and knew that something was awry. The dog steals. 333 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, we all always heard dogs know when we're afraid, 334 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: that's the most common thing. But they know when we're whatever. 335 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: You're happy, you're fad, you're anxious, abnormal, anxious, or nervous. 336 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: So a baby being in the ditch outside the house 337 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: is not normal. So the dog is in a little 338 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: bit of alert panic, please pay attention, state, And that's 339 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: what all the pacing and the barking and yelling is 340 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: about so bringing attention to it is very much about 341 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: pack order. Hey, something's wrong over here, Please help. And 342 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: that's the communication that they tend to send out. So 343 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: they're not as logical as we are, but they're very instinctual, 344 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: so they pick up on these things way before we would. 345 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: We can't smell a baby outside that. And then what 346 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: I've said a million times to Jesse Scott Morgan, Professor 347 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: forensic Shacksonall State, the best witness I ever put on 348 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: the stand in all my years hearings, bond forfeitter hearings, 349 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: bond hearings, jury trials, bench trial, you name. It was 350 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: a dog, it was a drug dog. It's the best 351 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: witness I ever put on a stand because dogs don't lie, 352 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: j Scott, No, no, no, they don't, Nancy. And you know, 353 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: the beauty part of this is that this little baby 354 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: that this dog found and to me, this is little 355 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: baby's three year old, little naked girl and in a ditch. 356 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Can you imagine in that cold and this little this 357 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: little dog was a shelter dog. Nancy. You don't know 358 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: what kind of life this dog had had beforehand, and 359 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I've got a soft spot for dogs. 360 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: We rescue dogs in our home. I've got three right 361 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: here in the room with me. And you know, the 362 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: beauty part is this is that this dog's life was 363 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: saved by somebody, Okay, And this dog in turn saved 364 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: this little girl's life, Nancy. This little girl was suffering 365 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: from hypothermia. I guarantee you and would have been dead, 366 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: and I can I can promise you this would have 367 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: been dead. We know that a ditch is wet anyway. 368 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine a ditch in northern Michigan thirty two 369 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: degrees and we're not even talking about ground temperature now, 370 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: thirty two degrees naked, shivering cold, And that dog had 371 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: the sense to look out the window and alert on 372 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: that little child out there in that ditch and wound 373 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: up saving this child. And one of the beauty part 374 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: of this whole thing is that when the EMTs got 375 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: to this little baby, she said one word, and that 376 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: was doggy. And that's amazing to me. The man allegedly 377 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: wraps the shivering little girl in his sweatshirt takes her inside, 378 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: caused police. The weather that day in Delta County had 379 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: reached freezing temperature. He says, quote, the little girl was 380 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: barely hanging on for her life by the time the 381 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: ambulance and police arrived. As Joe Scott says, the little 382 00:24:52,720 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: girl said one thing, donkey, so hero Peanut say the day. 383 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: But let's don't start Let's don't stop there, Let's go 384 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: straight on to Puppy. Take a listen to this little 385 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: boys reunited with his family after a neighbor found him 386 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: walking around in North City's Biden neighborhood. To her surprise, 387 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: he was with the dog who never left his side. 388 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: The neighbor went above and beyond to make sure that 389 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: that child got home safe. And by the way, the 390 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: little guy there Taylor says that he really liked the 391 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: pit bull who was like a guard for him. He 392 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: kept saying Puppy while he was being reunited. We're told 393 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: Saint Louis City police might be adopting that guy. What 394 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: a dream come true if this hero dog ends up 395 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: getting adopted. We're talking about number one, a hero dog 396 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: nicknamed Puppy and Camorean Taylor, a tot who goes missing 397 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri. Straight back. Do you rate computer WDBA 398 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: What happened, Well, ntcha? I remember a little girl, remember 399 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: the day that I figured off she could open the door, 400 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's what happened. A little Camaria. You know, 401 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: he looks to be about three or for he's a 402 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: a young little boy, and apparently he had gotten out 403 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: of the house and nobody knew that he was gone, 404 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: and it was for quite a while. So he just 405 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: took a little trip down you know, your St. Louis 406 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: streets and it wasn't long before a lady with two 407 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: small dogs noticed that we had no shoes on. Guys, 408 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: you were just hearing our friends at Fox to Saint Louis. 409 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: But now take a listen to Blair Laday at Fox Tea. 410 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: This prescious toddler, Kamarion Taylor, is back in his dad's 411 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: arms after he spent the morning on the move. Residence 412 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: of the baby. Neighborhood spotted him early Thursday morning walking 413 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: in his pj's, seemingly protected by this large pit bull. 414 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: She says, well, that dog goes with this baby. He's 415 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: out here with no shoes on. Do you know this baby? 416 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: It happened at around eight o'clock near McLaren and Broadway. 417 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: This neighbor, who wishes to remain anonymous, was walking her 418 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: own dogs. She switched gears to make a heroic move. 419 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I knocked on the doors all the way up and 420 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: down the street. I went down Broadway, knocked on those doors. 421 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: No answers, no one that I who did answer. They 422 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: didn't recognize the child. Four hours she walked and knocked. 423 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: So let me understand exactly what happened, Ray Kiputo. The 424 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: little boy had wandered out in his pj's and he 425 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: was being protected by a pit bull. Yeah, Nancy, the 426 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: pit bull seemed to follow him. Now, this wasn't his dog. 427 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: It just seemed to be a dog with that instinct 428 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: that this was a small child in trouble. But the 429 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: little dog pretty much mirrored little Kumaria. Guys, take a 430 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: listen one more time to Blair La Day Fox too, 431 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Taylor's father finally recognizing his son on a social media 432 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: post and sprinting into action. Soon the happy baby was home. 433 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: He looked well taken care of, you know, he was 434 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: very neat, very clean. He just didn't have the shoes on. 435 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: No word yet on how the baby boy got out 436 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: of his home. But this neighbor says there was no 437 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: way she could have turned a blind eye because it 438 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: takes a village and children especially are innocent. A missing 439 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: boy found wandering the Saint Louis streets. And I've got 440 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: to tell you I mentioned earlier that I had taken 441 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: the twins on an RV trip to see the Mount 442 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: Rushmore well, and we also went to Saint Louis to 443 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: see the arch en route and walking around in downtown 444 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Saint Louis is full of pitfalls. You know, It's amazing 445 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: to me to Chris Meyer's former chief of Police, John's Creek, 446 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: this pitbull dog was guarding the boy and it wasn't 447 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: his dog. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. And it made me 448 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: think as you were talking about that. At my house, 449 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: when my son was little and learned to ride his bike, 450 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: there was a neighbor dog that we used to play 451 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: with all the time, and we had this long driveway. 452 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: He would ride his bike and there were these trees 453 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: at the end, and that's where we would make him 454 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: turn around because there was a busy road there and 455 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: this dog, when my son was on his bike, would 456 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: run down to those trees and literally block him from 457 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: going any further. He would have to turn around. So 458 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: it was just an amazing thing that this wasn't even 459 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: our dog. So you got to think this is even 460 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: more this dog doesn't even know this little boy and 461 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: just sense that he was in trouble, that he was 462 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: in danger. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, we are 463 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: talking about brave and wonderful heroes, pet heroes. What's not 464 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: to love? And this pet hero really stands out in 465 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: my mind because the child he saved wasn't even his child. Reportedly, 466 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: a young boy reunited with his dad in Saint Louis 467 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: after a neighbor spots the taught wandering the streets of 468 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: Saint Louis outside and nothing but Pj's with a large 469 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: pit bull pit bulldog by his side, walking through the 470 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: streets in pj's and somehow wandering out of his dad's 471 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: home all on his own. Straight out to you, Wendy Patrick, 472 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author, what do you make of it? Okay, 473 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: you'd like to know how he got out of the 474 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: house the way he did without anybody seeing. You know, 475 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: he's way too young to have just been curious and 476 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: wandered off into the wilderness. This is one of those 477 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: cases where you have to keep eyes on and me. Nancy, 478 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: you know that more than anything, you're very protective of 479 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: the twins. Most parents are, so you'd probably want to 480 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: know who was supposed to be watching this child. But 481 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: thank God that an angel in the form of that 482 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: pit bull basically probably since something was wrong and was 483 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: just so protective instinctively over this child. Talk about a 484 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: happy story and a happy ending. Now. That little boy 485 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: boy his life saved by a pit bull dog nicknamed Puppy, 486 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: and the neighbor woman who lives in the neighborhood says 487 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: she was quote shocked to see a pit bulldog seemingly 488 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: guarding the little boy until he is rescued. The pit 489 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: bull did not know the boy, but they know each 490 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: other now. But let's switch gears now to hero dog 491 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: named p d Listen. Hi, my name is Heidi and 492 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: my dad was missing at six thirty when I arrived home. 493 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: He had left at four pm, so he should have 494 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: been home two hours prior to when I got home, 495 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: and I drove around for a few hours looking for him, 496 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: and I finally reported him missing to the police department 497 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: at ten pm and off duty sergeant was hunting and 498 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: he came across my dad's dog, Pete. You are hearing 499 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: the voice of Heidi rap Sarno. This is Fred's daughter 500 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: speaking to the New York Post straight out, Do you 501 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: write a peutero? What happened? Nancy? You know, we hear 502 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: a lot about missing kids, but it's not uncommon for 503 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: elderly and Fred was. He was driving in a wooded 504 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: area and he got stuck, and from there it just 505 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: things started to go downhill. Fred got lost and it 506 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: was you know, hours and hours before people were searching 507 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: for him. So it was a pretty scary situation. Now 508 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: we are talking about a senior who goes missing. My mom, 509 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: who was just turned eighty nine years old, lives with us, 510 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: and I can only imagine, Well, actually, I've gone in 511 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: a room and she wasn't in there, and I looked 512 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: in her bathroom, I looked at her closet, I looked 513 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: all around the house, the laundry room, the kitchen, and 514 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: then going back toward the other end of the house 515 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: into the twins room, trying to find her. And that's 516 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: a feeling like none other. It's like when there is 517 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: a missing child, explain doctor Angela. Nancy when anybody loses 518 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: a child, even for a brief second, everything that could 519 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: possibly happen to that child goes through your mind. Anything 520 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: there's immediate, there's an immediate adrenaline, there's an immediate sense of, 521 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm never going to find this child again, because, Nancy, 522 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is the child is missing, 523 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: and you don't have a clue of where to start, 524 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: and all you know is that child is gone. And 525 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: that's what it feels like when a senior goes missing, 526 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: not that they have the mind of a child, but 527 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: out in the elements, and this guy, nearly eighty years old, 528 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: out in the elements alone, they can't find him. So 529 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: back to you, Ray Kiputo, how did he go missing? 530 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: Red Woods? He was driving in a wooded area and 531 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: he stuck and from there it just things started to 532 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: go downhill. Fred got lost and it was Pete. And 533 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I think Pete's aptly named after the Little Rascals because 534 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: it looks just like that terrier in there. Well, Pete 535 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: starts running along the trail and he was spotted by 536 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: an off duty police officer and Pete ended up leading 537 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: that off duty police officer to Fred. So Fred's got 538 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: his little little pup to thank for learning someone who 539 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: was whereabout? Take a Listen to Fred's daughter speaking to 540 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: our friend the New York Post. The off duty sergeant 541 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: noticed the dog. First he thought it was a coyote. 542 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: Then he realized it was a dog because it was dark, 543 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: and he went towards the dog and noticed that the 544 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: leash was attached to her, And then he noticed tracks 545 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: in the ground and followed the dog, and she basically 546 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: led him to where my father was. They found him 547 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of a remote area of the woods. 548 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: He is an outdoorsman, so it's that those kind of 549 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: roads are familiar to him. But at the same time 550 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: he was lost. This hero dog leads out and off 551 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: duty cop to his master. Now I want you to 552 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: take another Listen to our cut thirty seven Heidi Raps Sarno. 553 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: This is Fred's daughter speaking to our friends at the 554 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: New York Post. So Pete is She's been with my 555 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: dad for about ten years. She was a rescue and 556 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: we think that she's a mix of Labrador and tip fall. 557 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: We call her the General Giant. She's just a sweetheart 558 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: and my dad nicknamed her Tiger because she chases all 559 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: the animals away up in New York where he lives. 560 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about once again the dog being a 561 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: mixed breed, basically a shelter dog. Straight back to Angie Wood, 562 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dog Whispered Dog behaviorist, and you can find 563 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: her at USK nine dot com way in what happened here? Well, 564 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: you know her dog is a dog, is a dog, 565 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: so that knows the instincts kick in. It doesn't really 566 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: matter what the breeds, so instincts. I tell humans all 567 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: the time, quit being such a darned person, like listen, 568 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: tune in. What does your gut tell you? Should you 569 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: pay attention? And this is what dogs do every day. 570 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: In this case, a seventy eight year old elder almost 571 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: seventy nine, a month or so away from being seventy nine, 572 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: goes missing. If it were not four his dog, rescue 573 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: dog I mixed a breed named Pete, he would still 574 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: be missing today. You know, I want to go out 575 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: to Joe Scott Morgan. We talk about heroes all the time, 576 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: but some of these heroes were rescued by people and 577 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: then they turned around and returned the favor. You're absolutely 578 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Nancy, because I've got to tell you 579 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: some of some of the darkest days I've ever had 580 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: have been have been. You know, I have to say 581 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: is suaged by the fact that I have rescue dogs, 582 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: because I mean, I've been through dark times in my life, 583 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: working with the dead all of my life, having to, 584 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, see these horrible things. But you know, every 585 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: single time I come in, I come home, and I 586 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: come back from having been in these environments, my dogs 587 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 1: are always there to comfort me. And that's why I'm 588 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: such a big supporter of rescuing dogs. I believe that 589 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: the dogs rescue us as much as we rescue them. 590 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: We you know, me and my family, we support no 591 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: kill shelters. We go out and try to help with 592 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: dogs all the time. We try to support people that 593 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: are doing free vaccination moves, that sort of thing. So 594 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: we strongly believe in animals, and animals can change family's life. 595 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: They've certainly changed ours. Keep this number handy, It's a 596 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: toll free number for the Humane Society. Eight six six 597 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: seven two zero two six seven six Pete eight six 598 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: six seven two zero two six seven six. Nancy Gray's 599 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: Crime Story signing off Merry Christmas