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Speaker 1: this is ah. This is something I never wanted to happen.

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Speaker 1: This was never supposed to be part of the plan.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is a live it's a live

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Speaker 1: recorded show. It was meant to be that way all

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Speaker 1: all ever? Did I mean? I did a couple of

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Speaker 1: other things, But the primary thing I have done over

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Speaker 1: the years is argue against people who have tried to

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Speaker 1: convince me of all the benefits and ease that would

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Speaker 1: come if you would just record the interviews over Skype

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Speaker 1: and ship like that. And I've always said it just

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Speaker 1: violated my artistic sensibility. I just resisted it against all comers.

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Speaker 1: But but in the end, I in the end, I

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Speaker 1: was defeated by COVID nineteen. So here we are recording

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Speaker 1: the show, not live. I am so close to cal

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Speaker 1: I can smell them but we can't be together. I

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Speaker 1: can't silence our phones. Cats and dogs living together, anarchy,

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Speaker 1: mass hysteria. Cal's so close. I could smell him, but

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Speaker 1: just robbed. Cal, can you tell everybody about getting robbed? Oh? Man? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So folks broke into yes, thieves, not folks. Thieves bra

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Speaker 1: I ask you real quick about that? So they did

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Speaker 1: maybe even giving these folks way too much credit. Um.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Um, but then, uh, you know, I've been

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00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: canning some stuff and then I have given away probably

426
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds of meat since since the corn teening

427
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: talk started, you know, and my buddies pounds. Yeah yeah,

428
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Wade on that hanging scale, how big are you? How

429
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: many freezers do you have and how big are they?

430
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: How many pounds that do you have? Total? You got

431
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: that big one right there, and just in sausage meat

432
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: that I ground up and mixed at Steve's house. There's

433
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: eighty pounds of grind in there. Yeah. I did a

434
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: batch of grind the r day that was forty pounds, man,

435
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: and that was like not a lot. Yeah. So um,

436
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: and then there's a little chest freezer next to that one.

437
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: Then I got my freezer upstairs two so um freezer

438
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: attached to your ridge. Yeah. And so there's there's a

439
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: third of an elk in there. Um, almost done eating

440
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: through my two thousand seventeen mules here, and um some

441
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: cuz here and and uh getting getting through the last

442
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: of the fish right now too. So yeah, I mean

443
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: I just I gave away a ton of meat. Um,

444
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: you're playing both sides you're trying to do. You're doing

445
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: prepper stuff where you're making jerky and canny, but you're

446
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: also doing community oriented stuff where you're helping people out. Yeah,

447
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: and like the canning and the jerky making are all

448
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: things where I'm like, oh, I'm gonna get to that

449
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: one of these days. And so here's kind of a

450
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: good excuse. Um. But the reality is like, for me,

451
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: if all this stuff went belly up, if I wasn't

452
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: such an invested friend to my friends, I can grab

453
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: my backpack and be just fine. Like I'm gonna be

454
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: able to get clean water, I'm gonna be able to

455
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: get food. I'm gonna be able to have shelter and

456
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: and and and be just fine. You know. So, I

457
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: guess I'm probably not uh in the same mindset of

458
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: somebody who's like, right here, this particular spot, If all

459
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: this infrastructure that we rely on goes down, I gotta

460
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 1: stick it out right here right here, I'm gonna be

461
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: you'd be more mobility mobility oriented. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

462
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: it's stunning. So at the at our website, the meat

463
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: eater dot com, we have up we have a tracker.

464
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: It's updated constantly, right cal Yep, we have up a

465
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: tracker on our website where you can go to follow

466
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: and understand state by state rules and regulations and closures

467
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: that will impact UH hunting and fishing type folks and

468
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: outdoor recreation type folks. And it's getting to be like

469
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: a really um it's get to be a really complicated

470
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: atmosphere out there in our own state that we have

471
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: a we're under right now. Our governor has well, I'm

472
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: under two things. So today is the last day of

473
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: my fourteen day international travel quarantine. So I was down

474
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: on family trip in Baja and things really kind of

475
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: went to ship while there there. There was like the

476
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: whiff of going to ship was in the air when

477
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: we left. I think if it was twelve hours later,

478
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have gone. We got down to Baja

479
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: just in time to have this feeling of like, oh

480
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: my god, what's happening. Um. The day before we got home,

481
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: our governor had uh put out a thing that I

482
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: don't know what they call it, the mandate whatever, what's

483
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for that anyone returning a directive

484
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: that's correct, thank you, honest, a directive that anyone returning

485
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: from international travel. Um, do us do a fourteen day quarantine.

486
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: So we've been very strict about it, and I haven't. Um,

487
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: I haven't. Besides my home, I haven't walked into It's

488
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. Besides my home, I haven't walked

489
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: into a structure, not even a gas station for two weeks. Today. UM,

490
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: I left the airport when I landed in town, and

491
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I just I've been outside in my home, but again,

492
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: outside it's been really important. It's a kind of a

493
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: somewhat lame time of year for some people might view

494
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: it as a aim time of year for outdoor activities,

495
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: but just to keep out there and keep at it.

496
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: We've been out um trapping beavers and doing stuff. We're

497
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna fish this weekend, and there's and then before my

498
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: fourteen day quarantine ended, there's another directive of a stay

499
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: at home directive for the entire state. And there's a

500
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of exceptions for the stay at home directive, and

501
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: one of those exceptions is outdoor activity. And you'll find

502
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: even places where people in some states are being an

503
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: encouraged to do outdoor activity but also being encouraged to

504
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: practice social distancing during outdoor activities. So I was trying

505
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: to determine what that meant for me specifically, and I've

506
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: made some phone calls and read and just read the

507
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: actual directive. UM, and yeah, you can you know, you

508
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: can travel to do outdoor activities on public lands here.

509
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: That's not the case everywhere. Uh. One interesting thing we've

510
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: heard from a guy. So for instance, we've got a

511
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: guy in Maryland. He's I did. He wrote in and

512
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: was talking about just by listening to this show, he

513
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: got very interested in learning how to hunt so he

514
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: went out and bought a gun, but calls binos turkey decoys,

515
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: boots all getting geared up to hunt turkeys this spring,

516
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: did all his scouting, got some private land permissions, did

517
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: his hunter ed and all he had to do to

518
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: seal the deal was do his hunter ed field day,

519
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: got his online course work done. But then the state

520
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: canceled all field days. So this guy is sitting in

521
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: this situation where ah, he's already he's geared up to go.

522
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: He did his hunter's d but he can't fulfill his

523
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: field day, so his spring turkey season is now off.

524
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: My buddy, Tony Coli Grassi in Washington State, was fishing

525
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: on the Queets River, an Olympic National Park, and he

526
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: was having a good day and getting some steel head,

527
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's got a park ranger

528
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: yelling at him in a friendly way that the governor

529
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: has just declared that recreational fishing is done and that

530
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: whole state. And Tony was actually escorted out of the

531
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: park so that they could get a certain area of

532
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: the park. Him and his dog were escorted off. And

533
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: now in Washington you cannot fish. And this strikes me

534
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: as weird because if you lived on a private lake.

535
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Let's say you live on a lake, you can walk

536
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: down and hit golf balls out into the lake, but

537
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: you can't cast a fishing pole out into the lake.

538
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: So rather than putting some parameters around what kinds of fishing,

539
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: what places, what group size, whatever, it's just you cannot fish.

540
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: It'd be like saying no touching, Like not only did

541
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: you close the golf courses, which I'm sure they've done,

542
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: but you would also have a directive that says no

543
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: one can touch their golf club and swing it. Yeah,

544
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: it's interesting how the stark contrast between that and then

545
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the how the a lot of other

546
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: states have changed their fishing REGs recently, um almost completely

547
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: hundred eighty degrees in the other direction. And I'm guessing

548
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: it's old. Maybe it's because Washington is such a hotbed

549
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: of COVID, and so that's why they're just shutting it

550
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: all down and telling people to stay inside. Yeah, it

551
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: will be in one of the main you know, the

552
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: initial explosion point for the virus and then remaining like

553
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: a real hotspot. Yeah, the main and Missouri. In Pennsylvania,

554
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: there's a couple Yeah, well they they have all suspended

555
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: all fishing license requirements right now, and a couple other

556
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: states have opened fishing seasons a week early to encourage

557
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: people to go outside and fish and uh and you know,

558
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: saying that it's you know, good for your health and

559
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: so that no one has to probably want go and

560
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: get fishing licenses and go in and out of you know, stores,

561
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: gas stations or whatever and have human contact and that

562
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: that way that you know, no wardens have to have

563
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: human contact. Everybody can basically just go fish without a license.

564
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: What states? What states is that happening in? Um, definitely Missouri, Uh, Connecticut.

565
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: Maine opened fishing on lakes one week earlier on all

566
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: all lakes, rivers, and streams earlier, opened it a week earlier. Yeah,

567
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: and they're not the only ones. Uh. Wisconsin currently waving

568
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 1: off fees for state parks and trails. UM. Maine, Yeah,

569
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: their inland fishing season was set to open. Uh or No,

570
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: it usually opens April one, but they opened at March

571
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: for the same reason, just to get let people to

572
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: get out there. Uh. Pennsylvania trout openers now April eight,

573
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: and that's across the whole state. There's not I guess

574
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: normal years, they have different days for different parts of

575
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: the state when the opener is UM and now it's

576
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: just wide open. Uh. I think that about covers it.

577
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: It fuels this this sort of suspicion or conspiracy theory.

578
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I almost hesitate to say this because I don't want

579
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: to traffic and missing formation and I know this isn't

580
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: the case, but I'll say but I've had friends in

581
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Washington who have expressed to me, and being baffled by

582
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: the severity of the directive, have expressed me this sense

583
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: that they feel that their state UM has UH. They

584
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: feel as though it has a sort of uneasy relationship

585
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: with its hunters and anglers. Anyways, that it sort of

586
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: feels that fuels this little bit of paranoia that is

587
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: not a supportive UM. You know that's not supportive in

588
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: some way. But again I shouldn't say that because I

589
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: don't know the full story there. But it does feel

590
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: really uh like there's a sort of a lack of

591
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: nuance and how it's being pushed forward. I know that

592
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: yesterday in Michigan, for instance, UM, they've been seeing with

593
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: so many people home from work in school, they've been

594
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: seeing an explosion in visitation at certain fishing access sites

595
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: and recreation areas, to the point that they have taken

596
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: to closing some because people are going to these fishing spots,

597
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: like I like one like Tippy Dam, or used to

598
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: fish Steelhead and Walleye going to some of these fishing

599
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: spots um and not able to practice responsible social distancing

600
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: at the fishing spots, and they've had to close it

601
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: down because people are too crowded. I was talking to

602
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: a firefighter here in our own town and they closed

603
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: one of the local ski hills. But you can still

604
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: go there, you know, the the oftentimes ski hills around

605
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: public land, around national forest land, so the summertime you

606
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: can go wander around up there. Uh, they closed the lifts,

607
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: like close the lodge, vending services, all that and shut

608
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: it down, but you can still just go up there

609
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: and sled or ski on the hill. And they had

610
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: put around some like guidelines about how to handle this,

611
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: and that you'd go up and like skin up, ski down,

612
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: don't linger, and that somehow turned into a hundred and

613
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: fifty people having a party on the balcony of the lodge,

614
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: and so then they're forced to come in and consider, uh,

615
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: how much are people able to just be smart and

616
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: how much you need to come in and institute a

617
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: nanny state because people are have a hard time understanding

618
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: sort of the spirit of what's trying to be accomplished.

619
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: Nebraska suspended new sales of nonresident turkey licenses. So if

620
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: you already hold a spring turkey license in Nebraska and

621
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: you're a nonresident, you can go hunt. But I believe

622
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: as of yesterday or the day before so uh, as

623
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: of like March thirty one or thirty or something in there,

624
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: they weren't selling any more non resident turkey licenses. Uh,

625
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: Washington shut down resident and non resident canceled some of

626
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: the early bear hunts. Is that correct? That's correct? What

627
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: are some other examples you've got you guys are seeing here? Um? Well,

628
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: I just buddy mine, who's one of the very accomplished,

629
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: awesome anglers at the Big Horn Angler down there in

630
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Fort Smith, Montana, just took a picture of some concrete

631
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: barricades that Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks boat ramps there

632
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: on the on the Big Horn. No, seriously, as well

633
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: as we're talking, um, so, I imagine we're gonna hear

634
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: some news on that here pretty quick. The here's the

635
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing that's been irking me. And it came

636
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: to light again yesterday when I was looking at the

637
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Nebraska executive order. UM, and everybody who's listening to this,

638
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: follow the link and read the actual executive orders for

639
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: all of this stuff, because it is just too easy

640
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: to sensationalize these orders, uh in whatever media. UM. There's

641
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: a lot of passion involved. But the in the list

642
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: of executive orders for the state of Nebraska, there's also

643
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: an executive order to allow drive up mixed drinks. And

644
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: how we can determine the drive up mixed drinks is

645
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: a stronger benefit to the health of the population of

646
00:46:52,120 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: Nebraska then running around hunting turkeys. I'm and we were

647
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: talking about non residents, right, But it's like, we're gonna

648
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: lay this thing on health. Let's get real healthy. And

649
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: I apologize to the business owners on this. I used

650
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: to sling a lot of drinks down at Red at

651
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: the bar in Missoula, Montana. I believe they're doing mixed

652
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: drink cocktails to go now too. So yeah and so

653
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: so if you go to our website they got you'll

654
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: you'll find a banner this COVID Night team changes the

655
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing regulations, and it's kind of like it's

656
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: it's amazing to look at what this sort of I'd

657
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: love to understand it better. The different approaches. Yeah, New Jersey,

658
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: Like do we talk about New Jersey's trout season ahead

659
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: of schedule? Like in in Wyoming, if you want to

660
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: register your bear a black bear baiting site, you're supposed

661
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: to be able to go in tomorrow and start registering it.

662
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: And you normally would go into an office fishing game

663
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: office to register your bait site. They're trying to work

664
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: out a way to some new siezures that they'll they'll

665
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: delay by two weeks, some new procedures where you can

666
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: register your sites online and not have to come into

667
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: an office. Yeah, I believe the State of Idaho, Um,

668
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: you know the same deal. You gotta you gotta have

669
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: a permit for your bait. Um they had it set up.

670
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: I feel like earlier this week or end of last

671
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: week where it was you had to set an appointment

672
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: um to come in and and do that. I would

673
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: assume they're going to switch to online. Um, you know

674
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: the at the point like I'm sure we're gonna get

675
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: into a lot of this. But I don't think any

676
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: angler outdoors person can have the mindset that this isn't

677
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen, because it's it hasn't happened yet. Uh, just

678
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: like we self police for poachers pretty darn well and

679
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: people who throw trash out like we gotta we gotta

680
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: self police for social distancing. And if that means going

681
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: to the next fishing access site down the road because

682
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: the one that you want to go to is to

683
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: too crowded, you better move on down the road, because

684
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's these examples, these bad examples that are

685
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: set in the precedent for the entire state. Um, it's

686
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: a it's a tough I mean, it's a really tough

687
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: spot for our community because you have um people who

688
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: just by the fact of what they're engaged in, just

689
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: people who are like, don't do well being cooped up

690
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: and confined. And when you look at being outdoors, is

691
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: this place where you can kind of find some space

692
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: for yourself, right and just get away from it all.

693
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: And then people start pointing out ways in which, um,

694
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: it's not safe because the overcrowding. It just gets like

695
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: it gets intimidating, and you don you want to be

696
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: a good player, right and and be supportive, and like

697
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: I said, we got had a quarantine to travel quarantine

698
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: UM and and have just stuck our immediate families, spent

699
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: the last two weeks engaging with no one besides me

700
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: and my wife and our three kids. So you're a

701
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: good player. But then you look at some of this

702
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: stuff and it winds up being uh, yeah, it winds

703
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: There's there's aspects of this to drive at home for everybody,

704
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: and there's a there's a risk here of sounding callous. Uh,

705
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: there's immense amounts of suffering happening. UM. People are dying,

706
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: people are losing family members, and I'm not losing sight

707
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: of that. But as we stayed to pass around political

708
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: conversations and otherwise this we try to in this show

709
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: stick to UM the ways in which world events and

710
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: political events and national events impact a like segment of

711
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: our existence. And this segment of our existence we're talking

712
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: about here is um hunting and fishing and other outdoor activities.

713
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: So that's why our focus is there rather than talking

714
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: about you know, lack of ventilators that a state might

715
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: be experiencing or overcrowding in hospitals. Like that's us real

716
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: and that's what's going on, and that's the news you

717
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: can get. But we're trying, you know, we haven't admittedly

718
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: limited focus. Um, South Carolina, is it too early to

719
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the tie in for like conservation

720
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: minded folks is like, we're we're dealing with people on

721
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: a population level, not you as an individual. And it's

722
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: going to be unfair for all of us at certain

723
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: times because we're What's happening, whether you want to believe

724
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: it or not in some cases, is we're talking about

725
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: people as a as one giant entity, not you as

726
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: an individual who, um, you know has all your turkey

727
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: hunting stuff ready to go, and um your governor says

728
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: you can't go turkey hunting. You know it's it sucks.

729
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: I hate it, but man, you gotta find some some ways,

730
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: some positive ways to focus that energy. Yeah. I had

731
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: been personally, I had been for nine months planning a

732
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: trip up to an area called the high Line, which

733
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: is some of the lowest human population densities that can

734
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: be found in the lower forty eight AH and just

735
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of a couple of days ago realized it wasn't

736
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but officially pulled the plug on it this morning.

737
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I could load my truck up in

738
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: my camping gear up, and my kids up here with

739
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: food that we already have in the house, grab a

740
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: box of latex gloves, and do nothing but pump gas

741
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: with a latex glove on and be up there camping.

742
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: But just something about the fact that it's a four

743
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: or five hour drive made it feel like I was

744
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: sort of not within the spirit of that. I was

745
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: not within the spirit of what it is we're trying

746
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: to accomplish here. I think your spot on. But then

747
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: you can think about it. It's like I will have

748
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: interaction with no one. I'll buy a tank of gas.

749
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: You'll put the effort into having interaction with no one

750
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: as well. Oh but I think no, I think. I

751
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: think the reason not to do that, though, is that

752
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, as limited as the risk is, and the

753
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: risk might be higher that someone's gonna get hurt just

754
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: throwing snowballs at each other at your house or get

755
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: cut with a knife, but just getting on the road

756
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: and traveling that far away from your house and getting

757
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: away from your community, like you just sort of opening

758
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: your yourself up to a little bit more unknown own

759
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: and that unknown could turn into something bad, and then

760
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, you could be stressing the system that we're

761
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: trying not to stress right now. Yeah, I got it.

762
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Um, all the lottery hunts on the w

763
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: m as have been canceled. North Carolina, some state parks

764
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: and then boat launches and game lands on some state

765
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: parks closed to public access. National parks are shutting down.

766
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: Arches and canyon Land National Parks closed until further notice.

767
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Glacier National Park closed until further notice. You know, this

768
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: makes me think of it's something that a really interesting

769
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: experience that happened to me my brother years ago, is

770
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: we had a horrible fire season. This is twenty year

771
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: as ago. Maybe we had this horrible fire season and

772
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: there are huge areas of big areas of national forest

773
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: that had been shut down and you couldn't get into them,

774
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: and they had been closed for In some cases they've

775
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: been closed for upwards of a month weeks or a month,

776
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: and the closures on these national forests extended into archery

777
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: elk season, and we were actually heard some rumors that

778
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: they might be removing some of the barriers and opened

779
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: some of these things back up. And we'd sort of

780
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: driven down to hunt on spec based on rumors we heard,

781
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: and we were driving up. We were driving up of

782
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: access road to a chunk of National forest and actually

783
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: shot the ship with the uh forest ranger who's taken

784
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: down the barricade like we're the first truck through as

785
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: he's opening up this thing. They've been opened forever. And

786
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not joking, man, this is a place

787
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: we had hunted pretty heavily. I'm not joking. We got

788
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: to the there's a big meadow at the trailhead. There's

789
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: a big meadow there where um, guys will like when

790
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: they guys will put up hot wire lines to crawl

791
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: their horses and stuff when they're packing in. There's elk

792
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: in the trailhead, right, So you imagine the impact of like, uh,

793
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, Glacier National Park being closed, and um, you

794
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: imagine the impact of some of these stretches of river

795
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: and stuff that just like wouldn't get hit and maybe

796
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: these are places that just get fish three sixty five

797
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: days a year, right, And what that's gonna look like

798
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 1: later if all of a sudden, let's say it's stuff

799
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: stays closed. What what it would be to have it

800
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: closed for a month and then get back in there

801
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: um down the line, just like some more interesting stuff,

802
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: is it? Uh yeah? West Virginia suspended fishing license blows

803
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: my mind. Fishing open to the public with or without license,

804
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: You still gotta follow bag limits. Michigan suspends all charter

805
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: fishing and guide operations at least until April. I got

806
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: a buddy here who's a guide, uh not close here

807
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: here in Montana, and he's all this trips are canceled.

808
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: He's scraping up odd jobs, painting houses, doing yardwork for

809
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: people right now. Just immediately felt the crush. Oh yeah.

810
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: In Oregon, as of midnight, Columbia River closed to all

811
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: salmon and steelhead fishing. They did it to maintain solidarity

812
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: with the state of Washington, as two states shared this fishery.

813
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: So you picture there, right, You can't fish in while Shehington,

814
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: but you just go over the bridge whatever, buy an

815
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: Oregon license and start fishing the same river mains closing

816
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: state park certain state parks Washington. You can't pick clams either,

817
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: so they're not just picking on rod and reel fisherman,

818
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: Yellowstone closed, Grand te Town National Park closed. Miss suspended

819
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: all fishing license requirements. So Missouri is pretty funny. The

820
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: fine print says you have to be in good standing

821
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: with the Missouri Department of Conservation, as in, if you

822
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: have a previously revoked fishing license, that's great. You can't

823
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: you can't legally fish even when nobody has a fishing license.

824
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: So if your privileges are suspended, you're like, that's really interesting.

825
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: I love it what people think of they're good stuff.

826
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Where some guy I was like, yeah, but what about

827
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: people who aren't supposed to buy a license? Can they fish?

828
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: And someone's like, yeah, good catch, let's write down. Can

829
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: you imagine being the conservation officer trying to track those

830
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: folks down. Yeah, so dude that you know, it's like,

831
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, you can't fish. It's like, what, there's

832
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: no license requirement right now. I know I can't buy

833
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: a license, but I don't need it right now. Wisconsin,

834
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: here's interesting. Wisconsin waves all fees for state parks and trails.

835
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: Though the state is under a shelter in place order,

836
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: the order recognizes outdoor activity is essential, so come one,

837
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: come all, No fees at state parks. Florida all state

838
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: parks are closed. Oregon all state parks closed. So I

839
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: wonder if I'm sure this has to play in somehow.

840
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: It's like the impact of people on those individual park systems. Right,

841
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like we've all seen I haven't been Yellowstone in years,

842
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: but so many pictures and so many stories at Yellowstone,

843
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: and people are so packed in around everything and wildlife

844
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: spottings and bear jams and all that stuff. Um, And

845
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: maybe some of these state parks like they just don't

846
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: have that many visitors or don't have a density of

847
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: visitors in some of these areas, and that's why they

848
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: get to stay open. The um. Well, you know, like Florida,

849
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: that's a crowded ass place with a lot of boats.

850
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: You know how Florida we're talking earlier that Washington says

851
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: that k no fishing in Florida. The governor issued an

852
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:56,959
Speaker 1: executive order requiring all recreational boats to remain at least

853
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: fifty ft apart. Wow. So there you're sort of you're

854
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: you're in that case, you're sort of trying to work

855
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: with people, but you're also putting um, you're also giving

856
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: people a lot of room to to screw up or not.

857
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: You're treating people like grown ups, and they don't always

858
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: do well. They don't I mean when they get treated

859
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: like grown ups unfortunately. But I but I love it's

860
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: a great I love it. I mean, if it works,

861
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's you know, it's it's opening up.

862
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: It's opening up to give people some room to still

863
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: operate and and and and try to find some mental

864
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: health um while still following through on the objectives of

865
01:01:52,680 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: the state to keep people apart. Yeah, it man, it's

866
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: it's just so like you know, working outside Glacier National

867
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: Park for a long time, the the park is there

868
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful and awesome, but you get to see

869
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: firsthand how reliant people are on the services provided by

870
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: the National Park Service or provided by the vendors approved

871
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: by the National Park Service. What you mean trash cans?

872
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: Like you're staring at this unbelievable mountain ranch up on

873
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: McDonald Pass going to the Sun Road, and it is

874
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: absolutely breathtaking, gorgeous, and there's mountain goats and stuff like that,

875
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: and then you drop your gaze a little bit and

876
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: instead of people seeing a very full trash can, and

877
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: being like, oh, I better doing something else responsible with

878
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: my trash. My refuse like hanging on to it a

879
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: little bit longer until we find an empty trash can,

880
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: uh down the road maybe or down the sidewalk. They

881
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: just chuck it there next to the gas can or

882
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: gas or sorry to the trash can, or pile it

883
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: up on top and the wind blows up and takes

884
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: it away. And it's like, I just see, like people

885
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: are so reliant on those services clean bathrooms, you know,

886
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: all this infrastructure that has to be manned by people,

887
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: and we get to this spot where it's like, okay, well,

888
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: why do these uh, these folks have to be you know,

889
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: potentially in harm's way, um to provide those services that

890
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: we know people expect when they go to a national

891
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: park and a lot of state parks, a lot of

892
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: fishing access sites, um. And so I do wonder if

893
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: there's some park superintendents that are weighing in on this

894
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: to the governor and they're like, you know, we we

895
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: don't have problems with people here, so we'd like to

896
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: remain open. I wonder if they're making a decision or

897
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: if it's like, you know, we are so understaffed and

898
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: so under budget under the best of circumstances here because

899
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: the crowds that show up behave like such pigs that

900
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: we'd prefer to close. It's funny you mentioned the garbage thing,

901
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: because like in raising kids, we try really hard to

902
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: make them aware of that kind of thing, you know,

903
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: like how you handle your personal refuse, and that when

904
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: we eat in a restaurant, we make them get down

905
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: on the ground and clean up, and to police their

906
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: area around their plane sea before they get off the plane,

907
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: and not just be that. Ah. Someone will get it,

908
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: like I make him get down and crawl around under

909
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: the table at restaurants. I love that picking their mess up, dude,

910
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: because if you don't pound it into him now though,

911
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: it's like they'll never get it. It's so funny you

912
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: bring that up, like the overflowed trash can, and people

913
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: are like, I can't just throw it on the ground.

914
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: I'll set it down there and my piece of trash

915
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: will displace some other piece of trash that will land

916
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: on the ground. But no one can say I didn't try, Yeah, man,

917
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: did I? I Man? I'm probably just complaining for the

918
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: sake of complaining, lamenting, but man, I've been thinking about

919
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: that a lot for some reason, Like, I mean, are

920
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: we bringing some of these closures upon ourselves because as

921
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: a group, we have been behaving so poorly in some

922
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: of these places. Hey, did we hit it? Uh? Yeah,

923
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: we already hit New Jersey ten days ahead of scheduled

924
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 1: trout season. Trotty're gonna be feeling the pressure. Uh, ca'l

925
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: tell everybody about Well, first off, let me let me

926
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: start with this. Um oh, you know what I want

927
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: to tell you guys about real quick, A little update

928
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: non COVID update is, Uh, after eleven months of waiting,

929
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: eleven months of incubation, I got my suppressors, my silence,

930
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: so I had two silencers suppressors. It's funny because ever

931
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: used to call them silencers. But it's like, you know

932
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: how you have the death tax in the estate tax,

933
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing, and the word you use

934
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: depends on your viewpoint about said tax. Uh, if you

935
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: support the tax, She's like, let's call it him in

936
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: the state tax because that makes it seem like you're

937
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: just hitting rich people and that's cool. And then dudes

938
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: with enough assets that they're going to be hit by

939
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: such attacks called a death tax, because that makes it

940
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: seem like, well, dude, you can't tax the man upon

941
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: it is death. That's not fair. So you use different

942
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: words to sell your viewpoint. What had historically been silencers, um,

943
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: which is a miss I'll admit is a misnomer. UM.

944
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: Silencer doesn't make your gun silenced. Uh, it suppresses the

945
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: sound and you still have the sonic crack, you know,

946
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: if you're using most most ammunitions faster than the speed

947
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: of sound, and so you still have a sonic crack,

948
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: a loud noise bre either way. Suppressors, so what you're

949
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: supposed to call him? A year ago, I got two

950
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,479
Speaker 1: suppressors of twenty two caliber in the parlance like you'd

951
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 1: say it can. I got a twenty two caliber can

952
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: and a thirty cow can UM. But you can't bring

953
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: them home with you. Like you can go down to

954
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: the to the you can go down to the sporting story.

955
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: You can go to Walmart right and buy a rifle

956
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: and take it home with you. But if you want

957
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: a device to make it not so damn loud, you

958
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: have to get a special a T A T F

959
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: permit for it. Um, And you go down to like

960
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: an FFL and they receive your cans, they receive your suppressors,

961
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: and then you fill out all these forms and you

962
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: send it off in the apparent. I don't know if

963
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know what it is that the

964
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,480
Speaker 1: story goes that the a t F is so backlogged

965
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: and suppressor forms that it's taking them that long to

966
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: do their end of the deal and get your form back.

967
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: So I dropped off my two suppressors and waited eleven months.

968
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, I get a call from

969
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: the sporting goods store that I can come down and

970
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: take possession of my suppressors. People, and there's a lot

971
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: of countries in Europe where it's super hard to get

972
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: a gun, but you can go down to the equivalent

973
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: of your local Walmart and buy yourself a suppressor. So

974
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: it's just like they can't believe. Some people can't believe

975
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: that in Americas, like I can't believe you can hunt.

976
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: Were one of those. And then I remember talking to

977
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: a guy in Scotland and him saying to me, I

978
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: can't believe you can hunt without a suppressor. So I

979
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: haven't done any hunt with mine yet, but I now

980
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: am the proud owner of two suppressors, which Yanni. In

981
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: your situation of gunshots downtown when trying to scare off looters,

982
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: are trying to scare off burglars, you could have had

983
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: a probably a much more intimidating sound were they aware

984
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: that you were up there with a suppressor shooting warning shots.

985
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: That scare me more. I'd be more scared because I'd

986
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: have a different vision of who it was that was

987
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: wielding the firearm. I'd be more like, Huh, this isn't

988
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: gonna work out well for me. I can't wait till

989
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,839
Speaker 1: the day that we can just when you buy a rifle,

990
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: you can just buy the suppressor with it. I'm gonna

991
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: have it on all of my guns. It's funny because

992
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: let's say guns like the people that resisted like and

993
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: I understand the arguments against it. There's an argument against

994
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: it that it makes the that you could commit a

995
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: crime without that lot as loud of that telltale crack right,

996
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: and burglars, murderers, what have you are gonna be like

997
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: less inclined to shoot because the guns damn loud. It

998
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: will alert people to the right. That's a reasonable argument.

999
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: Then there's a really reasonable argument that poachers will be

1000
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: emboldened because there's not that telltale gun shot often the

1001
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, often the night that a game warden might hear.

1002
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: And in fact, we were talking to a game order

1003
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: on him as the game warden in Missouri one time,

1004
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: and he was saying he personally didn't like suppressors because

1005
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of work done based off you know,

1006
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: towards dusk, there's that one rifle shot off in the

1007
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,440
Speaker 1: distance and he's like, huh, something about that seems fishy,

1008
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: and he heads over there to investigate, and he was saying,

1009
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: without the report, um, he feels that his ability to

1010
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: do his job would be compromised. So there are those arguments.

1011
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: But I wonder, let's say that for whatever reason, guns

1012
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: just weren't loud, right, that somehow the mechanics of of

1013
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: a gun going off wasn't loud. Would there be people

1014
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: pushing for regulations that you need to put a thing

1015
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: on your gun to make it louder. No, probably not.

1016
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: So the fact that someone might want their gun to

1017
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: not be so loud seems reasonable if we could achieve

1018
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: it with different powders. Somehow, some scientists developed a gunpowder

1019
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: uh that just for whatever reason, I'll understand the mechanics

1020
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: of it made it so. It just didn't so damn

1021
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: loud when it went off and people started using it,

1022
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: would they be bummed out? Would they say, now, no, no no, no, no,

1023
01:11:51,400 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: you gotta stick with the super noisy gun powder. It's interesting, like, hey,

1024
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: I noticed that when you shoot your muskeet there's not

1025
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: a blinding cloud of smoke. Uh what you got there?

1026
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: That's called smokeless powder. That's some regulator wo be Like,

1027
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, I want you guys to go back to

1028
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 1: the real smokey guy. I liked it better when you

1029
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: couldn't see ship after your shot. I had a fella

1030
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 1: right in the other day. He was kind of getting

1031
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: spicy with me because he was wondering why I hadn't

1032
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: brought up talked about the fact that, uh, everybody should

1033
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: have suppressors and your on your on your conservation show. Yeah,

1034
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, how I don't have one. I

1035
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: don't even apply for big game tags. That set me

1036
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: up for that much disappointment of waiting for eleven months. Um,

1037
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, when it becomes easier, I'll have one.

1038
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: But right now, I'm like, I just got I don't

1039
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: like filling out forms that set me up for a

1040
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of waiting. So oh, to be honest with you,

1041
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: I did it as much as just because I wanted

1042
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:16,480
Speaker 1: to explore the processes anything else. It was a learning experience.

1043
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, because you hear so much complaining. I mean,

1044
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm here like I haven't even tried because I've talked

1045
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: so many people that have complained so much about it.

1046
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that doesn't seem like it's worth my time.

1047
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: So there's this still there's an ill fated bill out

1048
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: there called the Hearing Protection Act, and that's like a

1049
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: name for an act where you'd be like, oh, who

1050
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: the hell could argue against that? But it would be Um,

1051
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: it would remove a lot of the red tape and

1052
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: and remove a lot of the red tape around suppressors.

1053
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: Uh do they want to touch on? Everyone knows me

1054
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: and you're honest, are running for president, which is going

1055
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: pretty well, um, Ronella tells. And we launched our campaign.

1056
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: There's the issue of where we stand on campaign finance reform,

1057
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: and we had always said that, you know, our campaign

1058
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: finances were reformed because you know, how you can go

1059
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: and buy a Maga hat you can buy and make

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: America grade again. Hat. I saw recently that you could

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: enter a drawing to win a Maga hat signed by

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 1: President Trump, right, and they sell the mega hats um

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01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: and it raises money for Trump's reelection. Bid. I don't

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: know if you can buy a Biden hat. I haven't

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: seen anybody running around. I never seen one guy yet

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,799
Speaker 1: wearing a Biden hat. But let's just let's just assume

1067
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: maybe you can buy yourself a Biden hat. Um. What

1068
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: that money does is it goes to support the campaign.

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: But Ronella tells is different because when you buy our stickers, hats,

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: t shirts, yard signs, what have you, we take all

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: the profits from those sales and don't line you know,

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: don't use it to to stock our own campaign coffers,

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: but we use it to plow our profits into our

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: Land Access Initiative and cal tell them all about it, alright.

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:14,919
Speaker 1: So the Ranella who tell us campaign merchandise, any purchase

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01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: of that merchandise, the profits from those sales will go

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: into our Land Access Initiative fund. That fund will be

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: utilized when we can find that opportunity that fulfills the

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: campaign promise, which is giving you us we all more

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: or better access to hunting and fishing. So if you

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:50,879
Speaker 1: know of a property or a landowner or an area

1082
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: that could benefit from let's say, an easement or a

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01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: boat ramp or a trail or something that accomplishes this goal,

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01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: then let us know. And you can do that by

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: going to uh the Rinella who tell us website and

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: filling out a very simple form um and uh and

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: and yeah hopefully we can we can keep this thing

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: going so that that's that's the program. But we're all

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: really excited about it, and we've got a bunch of

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: submissions um already what kind of submissions are coming in? Um, Well,

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: because of the design of the form we have, UM,

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01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it gets to be pretty pointed.

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01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're asking for um, pretty pretty good

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: details of of the peace or pieces uh that that

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01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: folks are submitting. So, UM, you can't just write in

1096
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: and say, boy, I'd really like to get to this place,

1097
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: and I can't right now. You have to write in

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01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: and say, hey, here's the name of this landowner. This

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: is that they would be amicable to talking about and

1100
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: easement or this property is for sale or this property

1101
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: will be coming up for sale, and it backs up

1102
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: to those types of situations. We need a hot lead,

1103
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: is what you're saying, Really need a hot lead. Yeah.

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: And because the nature of this and what everybody else

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: deals with two is I can't really be like, well,

1106
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: this one particular property that's up for sale right now

1107
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: is just a real jam. And if we were to

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: get a hold of that, we'd provide access to twenty

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: acres for the low, low price of because I don't

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01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: want some you know, real self centered son of a

1111
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: gun to move in there and scoop you, scoop all

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: of us, Steve, scoop all of us. Yeah, got it.

1113
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: So the way to support the land access initiative go

1114
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: again if you go to the to the metator dot com,

1115
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com all one word uh go there.

1116
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,440
Speaker 1: In addition to COVID nineteen changes the hunting and fishing regulations,

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: which includes park access and all that kind of stuff

1118
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. You can go there and find

1119
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: our runella potels things support us Better Hunting and Fishing

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01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: for America Sports campaign. Sorry for the interruption, Steve, but

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01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: it's under the conservation tab. If you click on that,

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: and then and and then there's a drop down menu

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01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: and the bottom uh option is Land Access Initiative, And

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 1: that'll take you to the page where you can all

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01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: your answers about what we're talking about will be answered. Sorry,

1126
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: all your questions will be answered. Yeah, pull really well

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01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: across the country. Um, better hunting and access or better

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing for America with our Land Access initiative.

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01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: Uh oh, you know one last thing I want to

1130
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: talk about, and then I just want to make sure

1131
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to chime in with he's got

1132
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: A guy pointed out that all the talk we used

1133
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 1: to have about the Michigan hello, um, which is the practice,

1134
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: and it's it's a national practice of giving people the bird.

1135
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: I gave you guys one today when I said, as

1136
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: a way of saying what's up, you flip someone off.

1137
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: They were talking about this guy wrote in saying it's um,

1138
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: that's a very uh zeitgeisty way to say hi, because

1139
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: it eliminates, it eliminates contact. You shake someone when you

1140
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: say hi. By shaking someone's hand, you're exchanging a massive

1141
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: amount of germs. But when you give him the Michigan hello,

1142
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: there's no exchange of germs, and it's also it's a

1143
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: twofold message. You're saying hello, Oh, but there's also a

1144
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: little bit of it don't come near me mixed in.

1145
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: So when you when I see you and I throw

1146
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: you the bird, I'm saying like, hello, keep your distance. Yeah,

1147
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: you're eliminating the confusion of all those extra fingers in

1148
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: the air of a traditional high exactly. Yeah. So this

1149
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: guy was saying that the Michigan hello is really like

1150
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: a thing that we should all be paying attention to

1151
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: and using right now. And I've been up in my

1152
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: usage considerably, Johnnie, what else you got. Have you taught

1153
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: your kids about what the middle finger means? Yeah, well

1154
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: I didn't tell them, like they know that they're not

1155
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: supposed to do it, and then if one of them

1156
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: they know you're not supposed to do it, they don't.

1157
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: I didn't like put it. I didn't verbalize it. They

1158
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: know it's an insult, and they know that to watch

1159
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: each other, and if they catch one another inadvertently with

1160
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: their middle finger out for whatever reason, like for whatever,

1161
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: they're holding their cup in such a way that makes

1162
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: their middle finger appear to be out, they will then

1163
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: tattletale on that person for putting their middle finger up.

1164
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: They feel that it's like, regardless of intent, regardless of scenario,

1165
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: keep your middle finger in line with its neighbors. Got it? Uh? Sorry,

1166
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: what were you gonna ask me? Just what if you

1167
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: got any final things? I missed you? Sudamn bad? Ye? Honest,

1168
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: this almost brings a tear to my eye. Man, this

1169
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: is the longest we've This isn't many years. This is

1170
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: the most we've been apart. Oh, has has to be.

1171
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: Here's something that comes to mind. Man. We have some

1172
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: neighbors that simply just can't seem to live without deliveries

1173
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: every day. And uh, I feel bad for the FedEx

1174
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: and ups folks that have to uh come to people's

1175
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: houses and possibly come in contact with people for bullshit

1176
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: that they probably don't need. Limit your buying, you don't

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: need nothing right now. But but but let me let

1178
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: me counter that for a minute, because, um, you might

1179
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: want to ask these people if they want to continue,

1180
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: if they like having their job right now, and that

1181
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:33,480
Speaker 1: we want to continue some economic activity in this country. Um,

1182
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: and if we determine that there are certain ways in

1183
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: which there can be some economic engagement that minimizes risk. Sure,

1184
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to tell the guy

1185
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: from fed Ex or a guy from UPS that, uh,

1186
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: it's too bad you're working, and that you should be

1187
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 1: like people that work in restaurants who have no income

1188
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, No, I just feel only I only

1189
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: feel bad for him if he's thinking, like, man, I'm

1190
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: getting put into a situation I don't want to be

1191
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: in because of what's going on. Yeah, but I hope

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: that they have I hope that they have some practices

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01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: they do too, you know, they have some practices they

1194
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: were able to use to stay as safe as possible. Sure,

1195
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: hopefully they're heating them. Um, hopefully everybody's heating them. Um.

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01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You know, we did the other night.

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01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh it was from butcher box. I

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: had like, uh, maybe forty chicken wings in my freezer. Uh,

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody's been finding these little gems in

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: their freezers, uh during these times and everybody's got more

1201
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 1: time to go digging around, and I haven't had forty

1202
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: chicken wings. My girls are six and eight, and they

1203
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: had they had no idea what a chicken wing was,

1204
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: and so we I made barbecue sauce. I made karaoke sauce,

1205
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: and then a classic just you know, hot sauce and butter,

1206
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, spicy chicken wing sauces just for your family. Well,

1207
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: the barbecue sauce was already in the fridge, so still ambitious.

1208
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: That's ambitious. But Matt, I tell you, we had such

1209
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: a fun evening of frying and eating chicken wings and

1210
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: talking through the whole chicken wing thing. I had to

1211
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 1: tell them about there's whole restaurants out there that will

1212
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 1: go to when hopefully the world goes back to normal

1213
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: where all you can eat is chicken wings. And uh,

1214
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: they're really blown away with a nice fun evening, uh

1215
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: with chicken wings. So next time you go grocery shop

1216
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: and see if Costco has probably got a giant bag

1217
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: of frozen wings you can get. Did you try to

1218
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: tackle buffalo wings? Buffalo? No? No, I did not. I

1219
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: did not. I should have. If you've got kids, UM,

1220
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: I think it's helpful right now to imagine how you're

1221
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: approaching this whole thing with them. We kind of went

1222
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: to a two weeks ago. We had to go to

1223
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: a UM information on a need to know basis with

1224
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: our kids, because we started to feel that it was

1225
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: getting a little it was getting a little much in

1226
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: a little chaotic. Um. I'm not one. I'm not inclined to.

1227
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: I don't like the sugarcoat stuff for my kids. My

1228
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: kids understand, um. You know, we talked very openly about

1229
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: sex and drugs and rock and roll, you know, as

1230
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: much as we can around home. Like we don't have

1231
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: a lot of we don't create a lot of blind

1232
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: spots for him. But it's it's I'm trying, We're trying

1233
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: to try to, you know, have this be not the

1234
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: least not traumatic. Um, a lot of big changes in

1235
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: lot of things going on, but we try to keep

1236
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: a pretty positive spin on it. And I think that

1237
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: one good way to to help do that is just

1238
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: around evening meal time, we've been working, um, cooking together

1239
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot. I had the kids last night make They

1240
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: did everything to make venice and meatballs, you know, like

1241
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: from taking bread, putting the food processor, making the bread crumbs.

1242
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: They did the whole process. So we've been doing a

1243
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of that. Just some good education there and uh

1244
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: so I think you've got kids try hard, to try hard,

1245
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,839
Speaker 1: to to take advantage and in the best way possible

1246
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the situation to maybe do some

1247
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: things you don't normally have time to do with your youngsters,

1248
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: and hopefully they'll not come out of this, uh you know,

1249
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: any more scarred than you need to be from being

1250
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: removed from their friends and their schools for so long. Yeah,

1251
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming for him too. We we I think we

1252
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: roughly did that at the same time because we uh

1253
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: I had mentioned to you that we had quit listening

1254
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: to the morning news while everybody was having breakfast because

1255
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: the kids are just having too many sort of scary

1256
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: thoughts and asking questions about their elders and uh, the

1257
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: longevity of their elders lives, etcetera. So that's funny because

1258
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: that's where we want up getting hund up. We want

1259
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: up getting hung up on grandma's and grandpa's. Yeah, now

1260
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: I think you go, it's worth mentioning to that. The

1261
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: whole reason that you're work, you're kind of beat by

1262
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: the COVID and you're forced to do this podcast is

1263
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: because we're taking it seriously the sole social distancing thing

1264
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, locked up in our houses and

1265
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: trying to you know, do be doing our civic duty.

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Speaker 1: To hopefully help this thing uh get better soon, and

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01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: uh hopefully everybody else has taken it as seriously. Yeah,

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, um, you know, when you guys first

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01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: got back to Mexico and and uh I brought over

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01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:08,480
Speaker 1: a grocery run for you guys, uh, and and maintaining

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01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: the social distance, and and my little buddy, your youngest

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01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: you know, easily eight out of ten times I come

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01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: to your house, I you know, pick the little guy

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01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: up and give him a big hug, and having to

1275
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: stop him short and the three of us yelling at

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: him not to come any closer, like wait, wait, wait,

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01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: wait wait, Yeah, what a horrible I mean, damn near

1278
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: cried on the way home, like that is just it's terrible.

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01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: So I really do feel for you parents out there,

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01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: because I'm seeckeningly independent and selfish over here in my

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01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: in my garage. So yeah, it's hard on everybody. Man, um,

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01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: I really you can't even tell you it's I think

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01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: that if it was happening for natural reasons, like if

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01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: I was just up at my fish shack for a

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01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: couple of weeks with my family, I wouldn't be like, man,

1286
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: do I miss my friends? But just knowing that you can't,

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01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: um carry on the way you carry on, and that I,

1288
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, not able to hang out with you guys.

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01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 1: It's like, uh yeah, it's like it's it's it's hurtful.

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01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: It's it's hurt I don't like it. I miss everybody. Um.

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01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: When this is over, I think we'll all probably look

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: at each other differently. Um, But yeah, we're gonna wrap

1293
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: it up for now and take care of your take

1294
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: care of your family, take care of your friends, take

1295
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: care of your community, take care of your country, you know,

1296
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of in that order. Be respectful when you get outside,

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01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 1: but get outside. Yeah, we'll all get through this. Talk

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01:29:51,640 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: to you guys soon to