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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chats, motherfucking podcast. Mason,

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Speaker 1: he's a legendary Queen's rappers, he said, greets your boy

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Speaker 1: in No R He's a Miami hippoper pioneer. Up is

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Speaker 1: d j e FN. Together they drink it up with

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast.

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Speaker 1: And yet number one sorts for drunk fast drink is

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Speaker 1: New year' z that Drinking Champs trink Up Mother would

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Speaker 1: it could be Hopey's? Would it should be? To see

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Speaker 1: your boy in r A E. What up is d

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Speaker 1: J e f F It is his drink chance? Motherfuck

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Speaker 1: makes a look. And there's very few times where, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wanna stand behind something. I want to

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Speaker 1: be there. I wanna, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I want to, like physically, you know, stand behind this.

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Speaker 1: And when I look at these three people that's here,

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Speaker 1: they're three different from three different walks of life, but

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Speaker 1: they came together under one thing, and it's under you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: the opposite of self destruction, the the thing to big

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Speaker 1: our people up. I see them worldwide, state to state,

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Speaker 1: you know, fighting for our people, you know, two of

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Speaker 1: them is rapid as one. It's just I believe our

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Speaker 1: activists is what you call it um and what they

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Speaker 1: do and how they do it. They're making us look

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Speaker 1: good because so many times you've seen people in the

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Speaker 1: past and these people would act like the holier than

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Speaker 1: now or they would have and it would be like

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Speaker 1: the protests or the people that are standing on the

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Speaker 1: ground you can't relate to sometimes, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, cool dad man, the preacher

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Speaker 1: man like he made me feel like. But these people

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Speaker 1: that are standing in front of me is an organization,

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Speaker 1: is people that I want to support. I've seen them

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Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, there's no way

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Speaker 1: I can't let y'all leave like without were getting this done.

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Speaker 1: You know, they went back into New York and then

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Speaker 1: said were even coming back with Trade. In case you

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Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about the

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Speaker 1: motherfuckering honorab with my song trade the motherfucking truth. And

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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna set it off and to say how

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Speaker 1: much I want to I'm my old lady to myself

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Speaker 1: right when I was coming up, Uh, Christianity was very

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Speaker 1: very popular, right, and then I would see a preacher

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Speaker 1: and then the preacher will be buying pieces on the law,

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Speaker 1: He'll be buying crack and said, I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: feel Mr Daniels right, And Daniels The reason why he

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Speaker 1: couldn't relate it because Mr Daniels was acting holy other

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Speaker 1: than that, and then he couldn't actually be human. So

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Speaker 1: then there was it was a culture that came along.

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Speaker 1: It was called five percent nation, right, and the five

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Speaker 1: percent was like, yo, we are normal people, but we

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Speaker 1: make mistakes and it's all it's somewhat it's somewhat brung

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Speaker 1: the youth to follow that. How did we go from

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Speaker 1: it's somewhat still following. But this gang culture is really

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Speaker 1: really crazy in the hood right now? What what do you?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Um? For me, you know,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thanks for having us. It's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: This is like my second time up. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: big man, this is this and I'm proud of your

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Speaker 1: man immature. But you know, as far as the question

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Speaker 1: I think for me, you know, we have to look

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Speaker 1: at what our community has, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: like the same way you said, Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: these young boys, they don't connect to the people who

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Speaker 1: They they don't have somebody that looks like them, that

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Speaker 1: to the people who's telling them. I think it is

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Speaker 1: necessary for credible messages like us, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: when you look at trade, when you look at myself,

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Speaker 1: when you look at me, because we come as we are,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We come as we are,

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Speaker 1: we understand the same things. I don't have conversations with

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Speaker 1: different conversation when you're speaking from adult perspective and you're

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Speaker 1: doing that. No, these they have a life, you know,

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Speaker 1: they have an understanding, they have realities that they're dealing with.

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Speaker 1: So when you connect with them where they are, and

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Speaker 1: So they say, bro, the's my bro, this is the buzzing,

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Speaker 1: and this is this and all that because they're looking

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Speaker 1: for family, and our communities a lot of our personal families. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're missing fathers, mothers on drugs. We older brothers locked up,

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Speaker 1: he running around he directed this one. He looked like

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Speaker 1: he winning and he said, you you we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take you under our wing. Who else is doing that?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we we have to

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Speaker 1: replace that. You know what I'm saying. We have to

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Speaker 1: about it is that this game culture was started for that.

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Speaker 1: It was actually they started like like yeah, so so

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Speaker 1: So we got brothers like my brother shared dude who's

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Speaker 1: but he his his his O. Gism ain't telling you

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Speaker 1: to go on the streets and shooting this and that.

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Speaker 1: He's a violence interrupted. He's taking the bloods off the

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Speaker 1: in the community. See when you really gangster when you

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Speaker 1: can stop somebody from shooting him and there ain't nothing

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Speaker 1: gangster A well, you just doing some stumph or sending

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Speaker 1: locked up. No, when you when you got enough respect

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Speaker 1: We're gonna change this. We're gonna flip this around. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna build instead of destroying each other. That's what gangsters.

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Speaker 1: So when we start retraining that mind state, that's when

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get what we're supposed to get. Like Houston, Houston. Um,

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Speaker 1: Like I went to Houston one time and we went

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Speaker 1: and we've never seen no ship like this. This man

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Speaker 1: the gloves and ship. So but describe do y'all deal

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Speaker 1: You gotta realize that everything that I represent came from

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Speaker 1: the game culture. The only difference is coming up while

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Speaker 1: I'm from. I was the one that I brought all

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Speaker 1: being really is, you know, um. And the the power

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Speaker 1: of how I transformed it is I'm still in the

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Speaker 1: The reason that they love me is because they know

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Speaker 1: that trust is and still in me. They know He's

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to us, pure blank raw. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's not gonna look down on us.

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Speaker 1: If anything, you know, I'm I'm gonna chop it up

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Speaker 1: with him, man, and we're gonna you know, I'm at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I just get to him. Really,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, you're your own man. Whichever way

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Speaker 1: just make sure you stand on it. But um, you know, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't. I don't look at it

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Speaker 1: and said, it's just the game. It's just it's just characters,

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Speaker 1: the characteristics of certain people, you know, because you have

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Speaker 1: some game members that super solid, and you have some

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Speaker 1: think it's all about the characteristics of other people, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like when me and Mike's talk all the time, it's

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Speaker 1: about Chagne. They if this let's go. I'm sorry. But

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Speaker 1: now it's just you know, it's about your more's your principles,

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Speaker 1: what you're staying for. Because again, like what Mike said,

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Speaker 1: you got to realize fancies. You can take ja Prince

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Speaker 1: in Houston. People failed to realize, like he's always took

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Speaker 1: He's always right, he's always trying to if you always

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Speaker 1: trying to mediate beats. Yeah, I'm just gonna say I

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Speaker 1: and I'm people classify me. Damn, there is It's something

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Speaker 1: that we're the exact same. So we're not walking away

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Speaker 1: from nothing. But you know, if if we watching it

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Speaker 1: Welcome to what are we calling this show? What we're

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Speaker 1: calling this today? Black excellent black. You know I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say Trade had a march. He called the march

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Speaker 1: for George Floyd, seventy thousand people in Houston. My son

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Speaker 1: and I got a trade day two right in Houston,

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Speaker 1: two right about two Holi days um and and my son,

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Speaker 1: myself and our other co founder, attorney Angelo put you

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Speaker 1: get back to that. Once you get back to that,

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Speaker 1: remember what we're talking about. This is questions direct for you,

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Speaker 1: how good did it feel to see Kamala Harris up there?

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Speaker 1: It's great. I mean, you know, you can't I said

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Speaker 1: the other day, we have to be able to take

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Speaker 1: a moment to like celebrate, right, because we have so

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Speaker 1: many brutal hits, um, where you feel like you're not winning.

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Speaker 1: So when you do, you got to celebrate it. And

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Speaker 1: there's you know, and I saw so many little girls

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Speaker 1: parents were posting on social media, little girls standing there

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Speaker 1: front of the TV, taking the pledge with her, like

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Speaker 1: those things. That's incredible. It's the same thing with President Obama, Like,

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Speaker 1: for for me, it's not so much just the fact

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Speaker 1: and uh Kamala Harris, um, the people really truly elected them.

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Speaker 1: In both instances, it took young people, it took black

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Speaker 1: folks in countless situation. Um. Well, let's say Vice President

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Speaker 1: that didn't just happen. My sister Joe Taka Dye and

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Speaker 1: people and people of color, we looked and said, damn,

426
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: this is really serious, like if this man is and

427
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: watched him do the ship he was talking about and

428
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: how you know this was ship whole countries and only

429
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: the blacks could live here, all types of racist like

430
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: when you had this, we had to literally see that

431
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: to understand it's really happening, because it's been happening in

432
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: this system, but we didn't really see it. So like

433
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: you said, it was up from racism and it forced us,

434
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: like it forced people that was in their house just chilling,

435
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: like na, I can't just chill now, Like we gotta

436
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: do some real ship and we needed especially as black people,

437
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: you would have never seen the rise of such black

438
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: leaders that was from the grass roods, people who was

439
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: just and they could just chilling dudes like myself that

440
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: came out. I was like, no, we can't really just

441
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: sit out. We can't sit down and just watch this

442
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: ship happened. So it forced leaders to emerge. It forced

443
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: whole organizations to grow and say, look, we gotta combat

444
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: this ship. And so it's the way racism to take

445
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: their choice, like people who was ordered perfect example, like

446
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: Trump had a rally by my crib. Right, he had

447
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: a real rally by my crib and all of the

448
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: people that was Jewish, it was it was israelis for

449
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Trump or something side something like that. So once in

450
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: my leighbors, I was like, oh, really, they're coming out.

451
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: They usually having on short stick out on doctors, and

452
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we're going to I don't gonna remember this.

453
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: So a year later, after the George Floyd ship, those

454
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: same every one of them came up to me. He

455
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: was like, we gotta get him out office. And I

456
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: was like wow, because they realized I didn't speak to

457
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: them since then, but then they were they kept seeing

458
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: I didn't even actually have to have to say yo,

459
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: just I was offended by that. I didn't have to

460
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: say that to them. They saw it, and then they

461
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: switched for themselves, and then Sunny knows the guy that

462
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: got the dog always comes up the Sunny and I'd

463
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: be just looking like mad gangster like because the dog

464
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: the blackest one of my friends. The dog is the

465
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: whitest little white. I'm going to flo you, dude, like

466
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: he switched his old good god, he was actually he

467
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: worked for Obama. But and it was just like I'm

468
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: just telling you, like so people who was born the

469
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: fence that I was saying, I don't know, you know.

470
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Then after the George Floyd ship, they was like, yo,

471
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: he's he's he's outright. He couldn't say that that was wrong.

472
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: He just couldn't say that. Like he more or less

473
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: accommoded on the riots as he more less a commandy

474
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: on the effect more than what I'm saying. So yeah

475
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: said saying something bad. Okay, okay, yeah, sorry about trades rally. Okay, Yes,

476
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: So he called aroundy seventy thousand people. It was the

477
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: hottest day on and we was in hell. It was

478
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I never felt he'd like this before this, This is unbelievable.

479
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: All came out there. It was out there, this song.

480
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: I think, not one fight, nobody bumping each other, everybody

481
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: so much respect. It was Trade. The kids, all these

482
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: little kids came and they were following him around the

483
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: whole rally. Trade had he commanded control over every single

484
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: aspect of that rally. And I knew that day that

485
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: he had a certain level of respect. I just in Houston.

486
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: This is all over the nation wherever we go, people

487
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: respect these two guys so much. And I was like, wow,

488
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: like Trade as a real leader, Like you know, I

489
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: saw something different I'm talking about. It could have been mad.

490
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: It could have been a real big fight out there

491
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: because it was hot. People were irritated, but they knew

492
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: not to do that on his time. How do you

493
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: develop that? Tray thinks about developing it just sometimes I

494
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: just move on on impulse, like I'm gonna moved as

495
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: it is. I don't really because you gotta realize when

496
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: I did it, Um, you know, I hit Bun and

497
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: he's like, man, let's let's make it happen. And I

498
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was gonna be tim people, a

499
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: thousand people, whatever it was, but you know, I spoke

500
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: and one thing about it. People know when it's time

501
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: for a cause and it's time to fight. I'm gonna

502
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: go out there when Louise with draw if it's something

503
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I believe in. That day it showed how many more

504
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: people believe in what I believe in and believe and

505
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: standing up for what needs to be stood up for him,

506
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: we made a statement. I think we actually had the

507
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: biggest marts PID when it came to George Floor. You know,

508
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: George Floyd is the Homy personally. Yeah. So if you

509
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: go look at some of the older stuff, you know,

510
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I've been banned for radio, Like, I think this makes

511
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: maybe two years world while Um, when everybody left me hanging,

512
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: he was one of the few that was always right,

513
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was on screw Tastes before we were. Yeah,

514
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: but your Floyd would always show up, you know what

515
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He would. He would always be the support,

516
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it was like it was actually

517
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: so crazy. I went out there right after you got

518
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: killed and met with Um, Samika and my son, and

519
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: from that point that's when we kind of never separated.

520
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I need just that, O know, because that's ill. That's ill,

521
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: because I was seeing y'all everywhere from Ahmed Aubrey, Like

522
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, i'man I'm a I'm sorry, um, Brianna said

523
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: Brianna Tellor trade, Um, like everything that happened. So this

524
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: is just so I thought you were seeing you there

525
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: as well. So you're saying the first time that, yeah,

526
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: y'all linked up was at them. So it's crazy, right,

527
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: the me and Mice, they knew each other, but it's

528
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: like everything, it's still kind of tied in. So while

529
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: they were doing what they were doing. You know, you

530
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: still have the Lee marriage, you still have the Sean Kings.

531
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: They deal with me. They were dealing with me hands on.

532
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: So in a lot of cases in the sense I'll

533
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: be fighting with Lee and Sean or what they're doing

534
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: at the same time they're doing it. What happened was

535
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: just when we went out there right after Floyd got killed,

536
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: it just became us as one. Because even to this day,

537
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: all of us still deal with the same We still

538
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: deal with the same people, but now it's like our

539
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: team as a whole. You know, it's just everybody brings

540
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: something to the table, and we built the superpower. We

541
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: definitely Okay, I'm gonna tell you something something. It's very important.

542
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: When I look at y'all, see how sharp y'all everyone

543
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: looked good, beautiful, Like I'm gonna be honest, it's important

544
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember the people. Even when you look

545
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: at people like my hero's like stokely car Michael got

546
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: a haircut. That's no man. I followed them, but y'all

547
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: didn't look like he picked the ship, you know what

548
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we're trying to say is would be

549
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: important because these young dudes, it's the same thing sometimes

550
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: these young dudes, if you're not somewhat vanting their eyes,

551
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: like we got something that they can have identified with,

552
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: They're not gonna wanna is that something that you I

553
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: think that that was one of the main focuses up

554
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: unto Freedom. We we, like she said, we were. We

555
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: started working with organization called the Justice League, which was

556
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: the birth child of the Gathering for Justice, which is

557
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Harry Bellefonte's organization. So we was working with the Game

558
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: for Justice and we still were. I mean, we were

559
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: just that was all our work with every day and

560
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: then um, the executive director, Carmen Perez has started Justice

561
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: League and we were. That's when we started doing our

562
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: own thing immedia actions. My first rally that I went

563
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: to was for Eric Gardner. I was working in detention,

564
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: said guy from we got killed for cigarettes. Cigarettes. And

565
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: I was working the tention centers with the Gathering for Justice,

566
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: and we were going to the tentor centers and we

567
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: were talking to kids and I was teaching them how

568
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: to utilize my music as an alternative to violence, like

569
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I was going to the center, said

570
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: this weekly. This was the first time I had started

571
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: doing that. And then Arigona Case had and Carlin was like,

572
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: we were walking out of the detention center. She looked, Yo,

573
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: they just killed this man. Look at how they killed him.

574
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: We're doing a rally tonight, and I'm like, rally was

575
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: I had never been to Marge, never been to a rally. Nothing.

576
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: And the next thing I know, that night it was

577
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: over a hundred thousand people in the city of New

578
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: York City and we was blocking the the you know,

579
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: the bridge to Jersey and we sat in the middle

580
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: of the street. And I never felt more alive than

581
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: that day, Like I never like it was like, this

582
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: is your call, and that's like, but that's not about

583
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: to tell you, like like music is my passion, but

584
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: this is my purpose. I've been there, I've been there.

585
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: I can't say in the beginning of your career. I

586
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: got say in the beginning of your professional career. You

587
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: know you was there at the beginning of my career,

588
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: really like when you just turned the profession. Now, when

589
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: when I started me and Sean Battle, that was the

590
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: beginning of my career. I didn't even have record, you

591
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: know that, man, I don't know how much a legend

592
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: nor was there that was. That was the beginning in

593
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: my career. And Norri. We used to go to Justine's

594
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: thew and Justice was the best club. Every Tuesday we

595
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: go there. It was industry night. And I remember the

596
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: first I tell people all the time. I remember hearing

597
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: Ben from TV No. We pulled up in a big

598
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: black man I mean truck in front of Justine's and

599
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: he was just playing and I was just like, what

600
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: the hell is that? And then I heard pun and

601
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I heard Nori, and then I heard and I heard kiss.

602
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this, I said, this is probably the

603
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: best I ever heard. He was. He was in there,

604
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: y you don't no younger you with this people, I'm like,

605
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: let me getting verson not so he was last We're

606
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: kicking it. And then the next week No Rea's out

607
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: there rhymen with Sean is probably one of the best

608
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: battles I ever. Like it was Sean that somebody else

609
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: and him and nor is just out there rhymen and

610
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: kicking in front of justice. Let you sell your story

611
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: like this is one of the mat sol. So we

612
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: outside and No Rea's out there. So Matt Middleton was

613
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: my lawyer, and and Ed Woods, Black lawyers, Woods who

614
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: passed away. So they both outside. They listening me and

615
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: tune my man. Did you just seen him yesterday? Shout

616
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: out to tune. Were inside eating. So Matt comes in

617
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: and like, yo, they outside rapping, shining them is out there.

618
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what now, Shan just got a million

619
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: dollar record there? Yeah, gonta stop you and you're gonna

620
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: finish it. Let me just tell you something. For me,

621
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: it was ill because I ain't never seen this guy,

622
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: never heard of this guy, and all I heard is

623
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: he got a million dollars from bad Boy and a

624
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: million dollar publishing there. I'm like, I ain't got so

625
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I wanted to I want to chop

626
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: so I went wrong only meet him, but when we

627
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: started rob, I want to chop his head off like

628
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: it was the big effect. But everybody was mad because

629
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: we were along, like, yo, this dude he got a

630
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: million do something like yeah, I could kill I'll kill him.

631
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I heard having something like here man. But so I

632
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: got a hundred robs. So Matt comes in like, yo,

633
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: they health there wrong, And I'm like, who's there? He like, Yo,

634
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: it's Nory and it's um Sean and somebody else. And

635
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: he said, everybody's out there. Clue is out there. They

636
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: got a big circle just surrounding him. So Tone looks,

637
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, let's go. He like no. I'm like no,

638
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: what do you mean. He's like, na, Na, what are

639
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: you talking about? NA? No, I don't understand what you're

640
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: talking about. So now, two days before that, I had

641
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: just went and I was going, I was literally gonna

642
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: sound with entertainment part. So so Lance had told him

643
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: don't let nobody else hear me. So that's why he

644
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: was like, NA, don't rob. So we we had. I've

645
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: been in the studio with him. I've kicked it for

646
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: him for about an hour. He's like, yeah, we're doing

647
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: the paperwork. You know. He told him, you don't live

648
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: around for nobody else. On here. So tone was like

649
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: he was trying to, you know, buy by that little situation.

650
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on out here, let me tear his

651
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: head off real quick. So mad, It's like, come on man,

652
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: this can't hurt you. It's only even up to any

653
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: So him all right, So we go out there. I'm

654
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: standing there, so I'm looking. No, they're going back and forth.

655
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: And then Matt like you let Mike get to the first,

656
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I'll go to phone. He looked like, okay, nice, what

657
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: you got some boss for I had just met Mike.

658
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: He gave me that look like please, like just you

659
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: got your ship already. But dude, like ball back, and

660
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I had heard him wrong, and I heard because he

661
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: was a slip bomba but I ain't him wrong like this,

662
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: like he had the eye the tighter, like literally was tighter,

663
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: like I look back, and he just ain't gonna lie.

664
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: I've never seen no battle, I remember, he said. So

665
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: first he started around me, and I think somebody was

666
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: like no, he back up. No, it was your eyes.

667
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: And he looked at me. He said, what you got

668
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: you got something us? I spit. I think he looked around.

669
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: He's like, slow down, killer, he said you're trying to

670
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: kill it. Hold hold on, hold on, this is this

671
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: is don't got good? So did he rhum? I go

672
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: he my goal. I think any was like, this is

673
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: the first time you've got to my left bar or

674
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: left bar right off or something but whatever that and

675
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, it was like it's over next a little

676
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: anybody was coming, Puff was calling us, Clue was on

677
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: the radio talking about it. I had like a big

678
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: bidding war. Jamaine the pre flew me to Atlanta. I

679
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: was Andy Recollege. You gotta understand. Let me just describe

680
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: this scene, all right. First of all, I love the

681
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: fact that he just said Justice was a club. It

682
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: was never what you like like a club, right, I

683
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: always tell that was the worst. Says yeah, I'm closing

684
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: that ship, like you should have kept the bodies and everything,

685
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: just keep it stay open, rather than't work. We're gonna

686
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: get it together. We're gonna but anyway, so that so

687
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: we used to club it out and clubs right next

688
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: and the clubs are right hung out. Jesus Us out

689
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: there West East Life's and Asian girls. It was crazy.

690
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: It was this is to the left, and then to

691
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: the right was another to the left, this to the left.

692
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: She was to come out. She did. To the last

693
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: it was across the street. The first three she was

694
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: directly across the street. Ye know what I'm saying. To

695
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: the lap though, But what was to the right, It

696
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: was another white club to the right. So it was

697
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: a bill board. It was it was it was a

698
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: pool slot. It was just a pool spot. So that

699
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: block was so lit in New York City. So you

700
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: gotta realize when when they looked and they see and

701
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: don't forget, like I'm the actually number one nigger at

702
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: the time. So but then but the shine got to

703
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: number one name and then when they see and they

704
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: see just everybody come out Like that was like you

705
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: know when they talk about the park Jams and the Bronx,

706
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: Like I was too young to experience that. I was

707
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: too young to see cool working them do their thing.

708
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: But to me, that battle was like my first Like

709
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship hip hop really is this

710
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: is really like And it was like listen, like everybody

711
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: wanted to fight because nobody saw him one that night

712
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: that my song actually just not just Shine, I just

713
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: want to just living, just just shine. It was other people.

714
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: It was other people didn't too there's other new artists

715
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: and so, but what it was was the love of

716
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: hip hop. That was the first time I was like,

717
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: your hip hop is almost had a real beef over that,

718
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Like what the niggas was so mad. His man was like,

719
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: nig and he said, you was running around saying and

720
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't it wasn't me. I don't really

721
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: had no conversation. And we went to Diddy's house in

722
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: the Hamptons and m Sean's men. I walked into it.

723
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: We walked into the party. I give shant a pound.

724
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: This man like, don't get that nigga, the fagging nigga,

725
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: no pound. Wow, I'm like, who are you talking to?

726
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm confused. When we in Diddy house, so I'm like, listen,

727
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna disrespect this man house because Tonta now

728
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: you can't do said let's just go outside. Now, we

729
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: ain't gonna make no scenes. So we we all go

730
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: outside and talking to his manager about Sean. I told

731
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: his man that Shan was like chill, chill, and I

732
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: was like, nah, that man have a problem with me.

733
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: We just go We ain't gonna disrespect, We ain't gonna

734
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: make no scene. Let's just go outside. And we went

735
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: outside and we literally is about to get it on,

736
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: and then Puff came out like, nah, y'all gotta settle this,

737
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: and then Naji was then I just got in the

738
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: middle and we ended up having a conversation, and you know,

739
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I just thought you was showing

740
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: him fake love. And I'm like, listen, bro, this is

741
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: if this ship is hip hop, people gonna say what

742
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: they say. If I don't funk with you, I don't

743
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: sunk with you. You know what I'm saying. But me

744
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: and Sharon had always been cool. I thought he was

745
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: a dope dude. After that meet him start, I was

746
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: going to the studio whatever. He was like one of

747
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: my closest friends. I'd be like, he used to be

748
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: in the studio with Sean while he was doing his

749
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: whole project, like and helping him do ship. He'll helped me.

750
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Like we became like real close friends after that. But

751
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: that that one little period, it was dropped for a

752
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: minute right there. Yeah, yeah, So let's make some noise

753
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: to that. We noticed you're not drinking and you're not smoking.

754
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Is that something that because and when I first my

755
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: first toll, I went on in Japan. I went on

756
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: with eight Ball and M J G. And they gave

757
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: me this cop that was like, man, this is this

758
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: is this sir, it was a sister. I was like,

759
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: what And I didn't funk with it? But that was

760
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: I didn't with it. But because this is this is.

761
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: When we came back from Japan, the lady woke us up.

762
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: As we all jumped on the plane together. The lady

763
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: was like, se me, sir. I was like, what's up?

764
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: She said, the guy he didn't move for nine hours, like,

765
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: he didn't sneef. He just I told you the story.

766
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I was like. And

767
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: then I went to Texas and it was with Texas.

768
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Is that one of the reasons why you don't get

769
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: how I ain't not like you had a bad experience, No,

770
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: So so you know, coming from where we're coming from,

771
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: where we came from in the uh, in the streets.

772
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people, man, You know a

773
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: lot of people go through reality rather be the struggle stress.

774
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: And you got to realize sometimes them getting higher and

775
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: them sipping put them at ease for the moment. I'm

776
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: one of the people. I'd rather just go head up

777
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: with whatever I'm feeling, because at that moment, it can't

778
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: get no worse than that, you know what I'm saying.

779
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: So I just always said I wouldn't come see it.

780
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to me personally one, I

781
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: like to go against the grain. I like to do

782
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: opposite with everybody else doing too. At the end of

783
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: the thing, no matter what I did, once it well,

784
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: once it well, if I still gotta face that ship,

785
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: so I just might as well gone take it ton up.

786
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: That's just like, bro, when I got when I like,

787
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: I'm that way with everything. So like when I got shot,

788
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, after the first three or four days of

789
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: being on pain is I'm like, man, I'm try and

790
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: see if I can make it through the night without it.

791
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: Wean myself from an instant like I just I tend

792
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: to just go head up with whatever it is and

793
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: whatever the outcome, it can't get no worse than whatever

794
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: it is when they hit me right there, you know. Yeah,

795
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't always say. You were touching

796
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: on this earlier about how people act different when they're

797
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: in front of the camera and then behind the scenes.

798
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: All types of types of things going on what I

799
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: appreciate about where we are at this moment in this movement,

800
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: and especially in my leadership. I don't allow that. And

801
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: I say to people all the time, I am not perfect.

802
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: I do drink, I hang out, I have I like

803
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: to twork. You might catch me in the club, you

804
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: might catch me going to the strip club, like I'm

805
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: not and I and I refused because I would hate

806
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: for people to find out later something about me and

807
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: then be you know, discouraged or or you know, just

808
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: like wow, I can't believe that this is who she is.

809
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: So I'm really not to say that. All your businesses

810
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: in the street, you know, obviously we all got stuff

811
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: that is your darkest thing that nobody knows about. But

812
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: for the most part, I try to be extremely authentic

813
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: and just put forth the true me so that everybody

814
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: is really clear so we're not confused later when you

815
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: catch them when you walk past me in the nightclub

816
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what you're doing in here? Yeah?

817
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: I do the same things to everybody else. Yeah, it's

818
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: like people have to understand we're human. So the good thing,

819
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: like even in Houston with me, like, man, it got

820
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: to a point, you know, and jeezy. You know he

821
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: said this to me, like manure, you went from the

822
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: super villain to the superhero. You know what I'm saying.

823
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: The good thing is the reason why I'm so comfortable.

824
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: It's because I'm always me. I'm not. I don't care

825
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: to impress it. You don't like high move, Hi, look

826
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: high roll. How I decide to to speak on certain situations,

827
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta deal with me. You know I'm not

828
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: to impress you. Now. The other thing is a lot

829
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: of people fall victim to worry about what the next

830
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: person thing. But guess what if you bring up situations

831
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I've been in and I'd be like, yeah, I did,

832
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: so what's next? You keep talking about it? Like at

833
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when you go to start

834
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: handling people like that, they just have to start respecting. Like, look,

835
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: this is what that is. And I learned that. Now

836
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: you imagine me. You see, I'm six one six to diamonds,

837
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: tattoos everywhere. You can have eight year old white women

838
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: come up to me and touch me too. I just

839
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: want to feel what one are heroes feel like, you

840
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: know what. In so, it's like we're at a point

841
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: now which is good for for what we had in

842
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: like everything is transparent. They got they respect us for us,

843
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: like we're human, Like I'm the same one. If you

844
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: say something disrespectful, I'm gonna be ready to get dad

845
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: on your heads. And I'm not gonna be thinking about,

846
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: oh man, I can't do this in front like I don't.

847
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm one of the first time. So it was a

848
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: big controversy with your name. Was with Mike Jones? Was

849
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: that was something that happened because I don't think we

850
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: ever even spoken on that. Yeah. You know the reason

851
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: why I don't because it's like when you're from the streets, streets,

852
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: just stay in the streets, bro. It's not it's not.

853
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: It's not to always be broadcast. Like even when I

854
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: finally did do an interview and I got to a

855
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: point because so many interviews coming from his way, and

856
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: it's like, hold on, I'm not y'all ain't gonna just

857
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: get to bash and me like tooth for me. So

858
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: you're saying that when that incident happens, I'm gonna tell

859
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: you what I've seen as a New York nigger, right,

860
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: the New York nigger you know we did the internet.

861
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: Wasn't that big back then, like you know, Twitter and

862
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: all that ship. All I just seen was like you

863
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: know it was it was a mean for for not

864
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: of a better turn from back then. It's like like

865
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Jones did just see trade m overhead the man and

866
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: then like he's just you know, laying over up. Well,

867
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, we had we had um, we had a

868
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: few minutes understanders proudly and we will at some point

869
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: we were gonna end up having to bump into each other.

870
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: That just so happened to be the place that we

871
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: bumped into each other. And a few words I said,

872
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: and I feel some slick was said that I really

873
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: that that offended me. And ship happened and there was

874
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: what it was, man, that was it was normal for us.

875
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: That's what we do every day. You know what I'm saying. Um, yeah,

876
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot. That changed a lot of ships. You know,

877
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: even to this day, Man down there, I'm always gonna

878
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: be the Lord of Julia Beverly because you gotta realize

879
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: at that point, that's damn there after that that's when

880
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: tho zone. Damn that stopped at that point, you know

881
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So definitely I probably want to lad

882
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: that was probably one of the last Yeah up, they

883
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: just keeping the silent man. I don't I don't have

884
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: no no, no hate towards the man that really passed

885
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: that day. I ain't really thought about that ship. That's

886
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: why you you never really kissed me. Where we were

887
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: going back and forth the music like man, that that

888
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: ship normal to me. So you know, in other people's world,

889
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: certain ship going and they got a ride that to

890
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: the end, that's what gonna help them leave it. Like man,

891
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I got too much other ship going on, because guess

892
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: what soon we've done with that. We were dealing with

893
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: some other ship had nothing to do with this, you

894
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So um so me and Ty

895
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: had we had all already previously chopped a few times.

896
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: You know, I think I was doing some mixtapes back

897
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: in the day, Kyle slow lit and banging with my

898
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: little brother jay Ton's called Slab and Paul Wall had

899
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: end up sending me his number one time, and you

900
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: know he had got on it. This is right when

901
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: Tip was coming back with seeing I mean come with

902
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: serious and still ain't forgave myself records and um you know,

903
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: time went by. I was just always mutual. But when

904
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: he got locked up. I was um, damn, who was man?

905
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who it was, um And

906
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: the name is on the tip of my tongue. It

907
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: will come because she one of the homies for it.

908
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: She's a solid him. But a long story short, I

909
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: gave a message and she sent word to him and

910
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: just telling them to hold his head, you know, like yeah, yeah,

911
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, anything needed, let us know, you know,

912
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: we're in full support, and he's he. Um sent the

913
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: message back like keep giving them hell, keep doing your thing, man,

914
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, I salute you. And time went by and

915
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: pee Wee I don't know if you know Pee Wee

916
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: is pee Wee um. Pe we used to always be.

917
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: He was on that TV show with Tip. That's how

918
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people end up learning of pee Wee Um.

919
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: He'd be back and forth between Tip the bird like

920
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: it's it was all on circle, but pee Wee was

921
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: heavy on it, like man, Tree, we gotta get you

922
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: over here. And Bill b and b Rich came to Houston. Yeah,

923
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: so when they came, they just seen how my movement

924
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: was and they went back with the same thing and

925
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: Tip end of center for me to come out there.

926
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: Just to chop it up man, And yeah, and it's

927
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: so crazy. People don't understand, like why I come from.

928
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: It's just a different type of cold and the lord

929
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: to that we stand on. And it was like in

930
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: the midst of that Tip was reaching out to me

931
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: at the time where if you deal with Trey radio wise,

932
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: you they're gonna cut off any artists you got, They're

933
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: gonna cut off any business you got. You can't do calm.

934
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: It was just like, you know what I mean, it

935
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: was a red flag you know anything I'm talking about

936
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: you you can lose your whole career if you decide

937
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: to stay inside by side and you're sure you don't

938
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: one of the man I'm enjoying. Um, we had a

939
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: conversation to you, like, hey, man, I can't promise we

940
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: could fix it, but at the end of the day,

941
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: I definitely want to stay inside outside with you and

942
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: whatever happened or whatever comes about out the situation, whether

943
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: good or bad, we're just gonna roll with it. But

944
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: let me stop you right there, because all these artists

945
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: right now are doing it, doing your platform without radio

946
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: right now, like they're taking your your method, Like that's

947
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: what you're saying like you know, twelve years Yeah, yeah,

948
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: so you gotta really let me, let me let me

949
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: clear using what was he using like sound flip? So no,

950
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: that's what let me clear, not just band parade and

951
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: see a lot of people thought like, oh man, they

952
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: just want to play his record, Like, nah, you can't.

953
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: You can't be calling pictures with me. You came, you

954
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: came do concerts. You can't do features with me. You

955
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: can't do big, you can't something. You didn't do that though,

956
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: even when I'm out the saving people lives, Like even

957
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: when I was saving people lives, if you if they

958
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: found out you was with me, then they're gonna treat

959
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: you some type of way. Funny thing is it would

960
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: be like who is that? Because the same thing happened

961
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: to me. You know, I went to save his day

962
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: with Minister Faricon, and the mere fact that I was

963
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: there and that there was a picture that I had

964
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: posted to three years ago boys for the fight floor.

965
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: She was like two or three years before before that.

966
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: I posted a picture it might have been his birthday,

967
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I said he was the goal right,

968
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: And they found that and put it together with the

969
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: fact that I was at the event, and then somehow

970
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: tied that with me being an anti Semite, and then

971
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: I hated Jews. And in the Jewish community there were

972
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: some who were like really seriously concerned, right because of

973
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: things that they heard Mr Ericon say. And you know,

974
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: there was there's that tension that has been there for

975
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: a long time, and there was something that was concerned

976
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: and we had to have some conversations. But there were

977
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: others who literally was using it to try to destroy me, right,

978
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: because there is the same thing for for Minister Fericon.

979
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: If you if you're seeing with him, or you know

980
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: you're working with him, or you say anything, and you

981
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: say anything and you see anything positive about him and

982
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: what he has done in the community, because there is

983
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: no doubt, like you can, people can say whatever they want,

984
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: um and I and whatever concerns that folks have about

985
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: some of Ministers Fican's rhetoric and his tone, those things,

986
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: they should have those conversations. I support that a d fine,

987
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: but you will not take away from the man what

988
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: he has done in our communities period. So that was

989
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: what I stood on that I wasn't you know, I can't.

990
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't agree with everything that anybody says you know

991
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You already says something today that I

992
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: can't wait till the show is over so I can

993
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: tell you about how. But I'm just saying, no, nobody

994
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: agrees with me. I don't agree with my mama, you know, right,

995
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: So so so that happened, but then it got transferred

996
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: to me. So at this point, to your point, anybody

997
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: who will work with me became like hot hot pocket.

998
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was like, you can't

999
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: be in a picture with Tamika. If I was going

1000
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: to speak at an event, they would call the school beforehand,

1001
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: the day with the school beforehand and get me camping.

1002
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh please, No, wasn't What are you talking about? It

1003
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: wasn't said that. Let me tell you something. Don't listen

1004
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: to myself. I was not twenty and this is this

1005
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: my camera right here. It was not twenty and thirty exactly,

1006
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: because you know when we say people making twenty and

1007
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: thirty thousand hours for a speech, honey, first of all,

1008
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: cousins will be calling like you. But this is different. No,

1009
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: this is this is This was a prominent time and

1010
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: I was there with her during this situation. You know

1011
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and you know it was. It was

1012
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: very weird for me. And I never seen nothing like this.

1013
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: I had never experienced this. No, At first, my son

1014
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: told me I was being dramatically dramatic. Like what do

1015
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: you tell he said? He said, you'd be a dramatic

1016
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: and so what a few people can't speak in a

1017
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: few places. And because listen, at that point, I was

1018
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: on tour with her, like, you know, we we had

1019
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: a thing I would do. Um spoken words were saying,

1020
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: you wasn't seeing what she was going on. I've seen it,

1021
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: but no, when it first happened. Right when it first happened,

1022
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about? Like she had

1023
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: just did the Woman's Mars. She was on it. Everywhere

1024
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh, this is our leader, this and that.

1025
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: So she's like, oh leader, they showing up? What mr?

1026
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Fair comment? That's fair call. Like he's come to the hood,

1027
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: he cleaned up, he's cleaned up dopines and turned them

1028
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: into entrepreneurs. Like this is person the only we see

1029
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: coming to our to change black life. We literally watched

1030
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: this man change people that they said was nothing and

1031
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: turned them into prominent members like of our community. Like

1032
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: what are you talking about how like what did they talk?

1033
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't even understand what this is happening. So she's like, yeah,

1034
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: this what's going on? And I'm like, yeah, whatever. And

1035
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, we were supposed to be

1036
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: going on to this school to speak and this and that,

1037
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, so what they can't one?

1038
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: We got good. I'm like, don't worry about it. They

1039
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: it's not with us, and then they cancel all thirty

1040
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: you're identified with days we don't we well, well, well absolutely,

1041
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: but the what they wanted us to believe, and this

1042
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: is a war that they have tried to maintain between

1043
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: the black and Jewish community forever. They wanted us to

1044
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: believe that it was the Jewish community that hated me, right,

1045
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: So they tried to make it because as long as

1046
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: they can keep two historically oppressed communities, if you will,

1047
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: because you know what the Jewish community has been through,

1048
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: and they use triggers to get people in that community upset,

1049
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: and then you know, you become the face of the

1050
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: violence that they have suffered and anti Semitism. And then

1051
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: of course black folks, our concern earns from slum lords,

1052
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, from you know, that you know, the man

1053
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: that owned German you know exactly exactly pushing start. You know,

1054
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: the man that owned the building in your community. He

1055
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: was Jewish and the and the building never had heat

1056
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: and it didn't have this. So they create these things

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: to keep these two communities apart, right, But the truth

1058
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: is it really wasn't the entire Jewish community, because so

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00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: many of them became my friends. They came to my aid,

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: They taught me what I didn't know. They helped me

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: understand their concerns. And first I got Nick Cannon. First,

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00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: I talked to Nick deeply about it in public. And

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: I think those same tactics are used between the Black

1064
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: and Latino community, and if used in the Black community,

1065
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: the bougie versus the nonce, it's the whole thing. But

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: the truth was, when we got down to it the day,

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: it's actually people who they you know who they are.

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00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: The mother the motherfucker's that was running up the side

1069
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: of the wall at the Capitol right on January six,

1070
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: because the same thing with Trade. It might look on

1071
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: the face that it was people from the black community

1072
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: who were trying to stop him, but the reality is

1073
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: that they know our power and when They know your

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: power and they know you have the ability to bring

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: people together. Because if you think about my situation at

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00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: this time, I was the black woman who, in fact,

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00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: yesterday was the four year anniversary of the Women's March.

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: Um rugs a little up, uh, the four year anniversity

1079
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: of the Women's March, where five million people marched around

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00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: the world against Trump and fascism and racism and sexism

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00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: and all those things. So here I am a black

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00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: woman who was standing in the center of white women

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: because it was a white women's movement, if you will.

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00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: At that time, right period, we all know it. It

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00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: was basically populated the Women's March with white women. So

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00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: now I'm standing there talking about Palestine, saying that you know,

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00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: what's happened in the Palace in Palestine is wrong. M

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00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm standing there telling white women welcome to our world. Now,

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01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you feel the pain of you know,

1090
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: when someone comes into office who you believe is not

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: there for your best interests. We've been dealing with that.

1092
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about police brutality. I'm bringing tray Vonn's mother

1093
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: to the rally. I'm bringing Sandra Bland's mother to the rally.

1094
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: They were like hellnall. So they were waiting for something.

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: And at the moment that they caught me at an

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01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: event that I've been going to my entire life. I

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01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: grew up in Harlem, in Manhattanville housing projects. Going to

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: the Moss Number seven was the thing to do. You

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01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, College Conrad Muhammad like that. You know,

1100
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: that was the place to go for black freedom and liberation.

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: I never once in my mind sat and listened to

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: a speech that was being stated at the at the

1103
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: Nation of It or at the Mosque and went away

1104
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: saying I hated Jewish people. That just wasn't the thing

1105
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: that ever happened to me. So I really didn't understand.

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: But there were people who came to me and they

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: helped me to see what they were seeing. And I

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01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: realized that the issue was history. I mean, if this

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01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: is ion of history that has to be dealt with,

1110
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: it has to be dealt with on both sides, because

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: I believe that while again, like I stated, Palestine, that's

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: an issue for me. We traveled there, we saw the

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01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: atrocity that is happening to the Palestinian people, and so

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: when they heard me speaking, they saw me, We saw

1115
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: we we. I spoke somewhere. I don't remember where it was,

1116
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: but I was telling the white women like, don't just

1117
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: come with your pink pussy hats show up for me.

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: I was saying, I was. I mean, it was one

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01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: of my good ones, you know, I was talking good ship.

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01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: It was little. I was in the as and the

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: white women was standing in the bleaches like, yes, that's it,

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01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: that's it. I got off the stage and my son

1123
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: and Lindas are so our other co found it until freedom.

1124
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: They both walked up to me and said, this ship

1125
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: is about to blow something bad. It's going to happen.

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: They were like, that's what they do. That's what they

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01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: do to our leaders, right, They exalt you. They put

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01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: you up on this pedestal just to chop you dock. Right.

1129
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: So when I heard her calling out and actually calling

1130
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: white America to face what they've done to black people, right,

1131
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: when I've seen her and I've seen white people embrace that, right,

1132
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: I said, you too dangerous, Like it's just like what

1133
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: they did to Marchael And they said, no one man

1134
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: should have all that pub when they look I said,

1135
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: I said to myself, I told her as soon as

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01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: she got that stage, I said, And it was because

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01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: the white woman was like, that's right. We we need

1138
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: to fix what we need to fix. And I'm like,

1139
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: you taking the shot this side one thing about okay,

1140
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: but you can't let me lose my point. I got it,

1141
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: m so um so, I like how you got the

1142
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: trace on the side and I got to have that.

1143
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: But I'm about to do it again because I have

1144
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: a book coming out. It's called State of Emergency. Charlottage

1145
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: would kill me. He's you know, Charlotte has publishing company now,

1146
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: and I have the first book that's being released from

1147
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: his imprint. UM it's called Black No No. This is

1148
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: his own imprint at Simon and Schuster. And my book

1149
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: is the first book to be released on black privilege.

1150
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: It's called State of Emergency. And this book is basically

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01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: all the stuff I was saying at that time. Um.

1152
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: In one body of work, we're basically talking through the

1153
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: history of four hundred plus years and how we got

1154
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: to this point in a prescription for change, like what

1155
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: we can do? Angela Davis and Cardi b they are

1156
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: in conversation in my forward, they're talking to one another. UM.

1157
01:03:54,800 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: So it's Gonna be a powerful book. Card B Davis,

1158
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: Angela Doctor, Angela Davis, and Cardi B are in conversation

1159
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: together in my book where Cardi Party Party is basically

1160
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: saying like she is really actually she is. That's the

1161
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: whole point, because you know, I feel like I am

1162
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: and Trade. He knows he's always on me, like, stop

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: being so much hard like he because they think I'm

1164
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be like I don't know, like I mean

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: this is, let me take takes because you know, we

1166
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: ain't gonna play about you right on me all the time.

1167
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna play Trade called me on the phone.

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what that outfit is you got on

1169
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: the internet, but you need to tell that down. I'm

1170
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: posing a bathing and put you today. But anyway, that's brothers.

1171
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: But they single. I'm young and I single on drink

1172
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: chances out. But but I should you made me lose

1173
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: my point I was talking about. I was saying that

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: I think I find myself being a mix between Cardi

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: B and Angela Davis. So when I was thinking of

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: who could I bring to this conversation, I felt like

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: they were the best people. And I'm so thankful that

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: both of them agreed because Cardi is basically saying to

1179
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: Angela Davis, am, I is it okay for me to

1180
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: sit at the table with you? You know? Can we

1181
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: both fight for freedom together even though I'm not as

1182
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: perfect as you are? And Angela Davis responds and it's

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01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: I won't tell you what she said, but it's incredible.

1184
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: You got about a book right and you can preorder

1185
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: it right now. But it's it's actually gonna be released

1186
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: on May eleven, but it can be pre ordered right now.

1187
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm telling this story is to

1188
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: say to the point of how we look at Tray

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01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: and we see him pulling seventy thousand people together and

1190
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: he didn't need one radio spot to do it. That

1191
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: at the time, it felt like the end of my life.

1192
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: In fact, I got addicted to uh we're calling pain pills.

1193
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: I had to go to a drug treatments all of

1194
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: xanax huh um xanax and all of that. It wasn't

1195
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: but because because I was depressed. I was depressed, because

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: like he said, it was one speaking engagement canceled for

1197
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: some stuff that I didn't even say. They were trying

1198
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: to say. They were trying to tie me to somebody

1199
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: else's words and and and put it on me and

1200
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: when and whenever the oppressor can't kill you with the truth.

1201
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: They're live exactly they make So they started making up

1202
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: lines I was stealing money from my organization. You know,

1203
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: they did everything. So I got really really depressed, and

1204
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was the end of the world. And

1205
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean I really thought it was the end of

1206
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: the world forgot and my son, along with my son,

1207
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: along with a number of other individuals, my dear friends,

1208
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: people who I love, and I have to say Yandy

1209
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: Smith Harris. Yandy is one of my closest friends and

1210
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: Yandy again, that's the same thing with her. I was

1211
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: worried because Yandy and my manager, uh Toyvan, they are

1212
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: partners and their their company manages me. People don't even

1213
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: know that that Yandy is actually a part of my

1214
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: management team. Um and I wanted them to drop me

1215
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: as a client because I was worried about them losing

1216
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: contract because of what was happening to me. But they

1217
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: stood with me all the way. Ten too's down and

1218
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: one speaking engagement being canceled is cool, But by the

1219
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: time I got to thirty speaking engagements, canceled. I was

1220
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: calling friends asking for money. And this this wasn't five

1221
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm talking about last year, last December, I

1222
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: sent the text message out to a number of friends saying,

1223
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: send money because I'm not gonna make it. I don't

1224
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. And look at how God

1225
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: will turn things around. And so the point is that

1226
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: today what I thought was the end of the world,

1227
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: actually it was a test to see whether or not

1228
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: I could stand up to this moment. I was being

1229
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: asked to denounce a black man, right that I know

1230
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: has done great work in our community, who I still

1231
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: can say I don't agree with about things that he

1232
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: just said, right, and I said, I won't do it.

1233
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: Y'all can take all the speaking agage, you can take

1234
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: everything you want. But as far as I was concerned,

1235
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: black men have been denounced in this country, like this

1236
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: nation has denounced a black man. So how can I,

1237
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: as a black woman who has a twenty one year

1238
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: old black son and a father, stand up and say

1239
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: I denounced a black man. That's not language that I

1240
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: can use. I'm not going to denounce the black man

1241
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: who killed somebody. I'm not going to denounce the black

1242
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: man who did anything. I will say, I don't agree

1243
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: with you, and you're wrong, and you need to be

1244
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: held accountable for whatever you did. But I'll never use

1245
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: your language as white folks trying to tell me what

1246
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: to say to describe my relationship to black men and

1247
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: that standing on that it broke me down to my

1248
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: smallest form. But the Lord will build you back. And

1249
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: look at where we're sitting today. We're don't drink cham

1250
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: people all got a pass right for people who who

1251
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: like drink chaps? What what is? What is your past? Like?

1252
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: How did you start this? How did you come here? Like?

1253
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: It's too too long of a story, But I'll say this.

1254
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: My Aaron's used to take me to Rally's in Harlem,

1255
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: as I said, So we went to the mosque, my

1256
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: mom and I went to church on Sunday, and of

1257
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: course um. I grew up in the National Action Network,

1258
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: which was REVERN, now Sharpton's organization. I worked for him

1259
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 1: for fourteen years. I became the youngest ever executive director

1260
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: of all the major civil rights organizations in the country.

1261
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: And I did that for four years and then I

1262
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: decided I was ready to try to do it on

1263
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: my own and so I left um. When I was young,

1264
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: it was like your parents making you go to church.

1265
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: I was pissed all the time, and I ran away

1266
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 1: from home. I rebelled heavily against it. I got pregnant,

1267
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: and so I just told you. My son is twenty one.

1268
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: So basically my son and I grew up together. He

1269
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: saved my life. If it had not been for him,

1270
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. He did. His name is Tariq, and

1271
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: he saved my life. And thankfully Trade and my son

1272
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: are his mentors who deal with him every day because

1273
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: he and I cannot. We just can't. We're getting better

1274
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: now now he has his own place. We're getting much better.

1275
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: But there was a point when Trey had to call

1276
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: me a few weeks ago and he's like, says, you

1277
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: can't just not talk to him, like you have to

1278
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: talk to your son. And he deals with my son

1279
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, and so thank God for them.

1280
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: But when I was young, I didn't want to be

1281
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: in the movement. And then his father was murdered. He

1282
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: was two years old. His father was shot and killed.

1283
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: He was left in a ditch for two weeks um

1284
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: and a woman walking her dog found him and that's

1285
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: how we ended up finding all he was dead. And

1286
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: so this was in Pennsylvania. So he's from Harlem or so.

1287
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: So he's from Washington Heights. So when he's not he's again,

1288
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: but he's from Washington in the three buildings that was

1289
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: some those buildings on top of the bridge. You'll know,

1290
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm going. Yeah, anyway, he so he was killed. He

1291
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: was killed, and at the point that he died, what

1292
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: my parents had been forcing me to do in terms

1293
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: of taking me to the rallies. It all came together

1294
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: because I was trying to figure out, like, why is

1295
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: he dead. I didn't get it, like I know, okay,

1296
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: he did because some drug dudes and the thing and

1297
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: they killed him and he was involved in something he

1298
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been if I got that, But I'm saying,

1299
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: there's a larger context to it. And I started really

1300
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: trying to understand it. And what I basically I thought,

1301
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: you know, to myself, was that his mom and dad

1302
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: were perpetual drug abuses. They had been in and out

1303
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: of prison. Great people just couldn't get it together. And

1304
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: imagine if the system then would have said that it

1305
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: was an epidemic and deserved the type of resources they'd

1306
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: given white kids right now who are addicted to opioids.

1307
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: Imagine if they got therapy, counseling and they could just

1308
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: show up somewhere and say I have a problem, and

1309
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: people put them on a couch and do you know,

1310
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: and help them. They didn't have that. The in which

1311
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: they dealt with was putting them in jail back and forth.

1312
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 1: And even though he had great grandparents who did everything

1313
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: they could, it's not the same. It wasn't enough. They

1314
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: just couldn't. He couldn't get himself together, and unfortunately he

1315
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: felt victim to the system. And so at that point

1316
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: I took on what my parents were trying to tell me.

1317
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is what the movement is about.

1318
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be fighting against gun violence, well, fighting

1319
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: to stop gun violence that well, you know, I had listen,

1320
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: I had a life. I wasn't like I said, I rebelled,

1321
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: so I was in the street, you know, I was.

1322
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: I was a little more. I was a little worst

1323
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: of the regular teenager. I always say, you know, during

1324
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: that time when I wanted to be in the street,

1325
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to marry a drug dealer, because that's what

1326
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: I thought was cool. You know, that's what I saw.

1327
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: I was watching paid in full, so I was like, yeah,

1328
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: like you know that that was what I thought was

1329
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: the right thing yet shot keep Anyway, that's my that's

1330
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: my storyline. It's it's there's a lot to it, um

1331
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: and I've been through a lot of things. But I

1332
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: will just say that the most uh gratifying part of

1333
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: what it is that I do is that my story

1334
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: is what actually makes me who I am. You know, please,

1335
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right until you wrote me into the

1336
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: battle when I had to break all of that down,

1337
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: it's gilly way that you do. Yeah, we're gonna talk

1338
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: about that, right. There's a lot of intersistencies and misconceptions

1339
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, just want to throw that out this

1340
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: So what I was saying, a guy, I don't want.

1341
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: What I was saying was the reason why we started

1342
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: until Freedom Right was literally because we realized there was

1343
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: a culture divide, like the thing that you said when

1344
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: you said the preacher was telling you to do this,

1345
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: and you saw all these things and you didn't see

1346
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: yourself in the movement, and and for us it was like,

1347
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: you know what we come from the community, We come

1348
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: from the hood. We wanted, like she said, we want

1349
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: to go to the strip club. Were in the hood.

1350
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: You might catch me at the block party, you know,

1351
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: having you, but you're not gonna talk to me crazy

1352
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: because I might go on your mouth like I'm gonna

1353
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: give you FI. I'm not gonna shoot you and kill

1354
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: you because I don't want to do that. Don't. But

1355
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta discipline. There's a level of discipline. You

1356
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: you got this respect for men. I'm from the old school.

1357
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: Please remember because how how is hard is it from

1358
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: youtub brothers to keep that balance? You know what I'm saying.

1359
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: Because the thing about it is, on one hand, she

1360
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: preaching like yo, man, you know black excellent man everybody

1361
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, but there's not my motherfucking heads. But that's

1362
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: what not as bad as me. She's a little worse

1363
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: if he dudes, don't She's gonna say it is, dude.

1364
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: But we usually address all of those things the dudes.

1365
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: When it's female situations, we try to just you know,

1366
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: get in the middle. But the reality situation is when

1367
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: you look at boxes, that's black excellence. We we we

1368
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: celebrate all our black boxes that have exceeded. It's not

1369
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: wrong sometimes you gotta not go out if you talk

1370
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: crazy to me. Look, I don't want to shoot you.

1371
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stab you. I don't wanna take your life.

1372
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: We might need to go on the corner and get

1373
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: five minutes because we feel the type of way. It's

1374
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: I believe that's part of what black excellence is. If

1375
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: you feel this way so much that we can't have

1376
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: a conversation to come to agreement to what you're saying, Yo,

1377
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: I apologize or this, and that somebody might have to

1378
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: get beat up and we can and we and we

1379
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: can shake hands. Never we's in school and used to fight,

1380
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: and your mother like you're gonna fight him, and y'all

1381
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: shake hands and you'll go home. Except what you no,

1382
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: But that's a different thing because I don't because I

1383
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: know he don't want to fight me. You see what

1384
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're just not the same type of individual, right,

1385
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: I think for me, right the Troy app situation, because

1386
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: it's not really we never I'm talking about the other beef.

1387
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about um, I think because he technically did

1388
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: not tell yet not yet see that that's the thing.

1389
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: So the thing is this, I understand the reality we

1390
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: from the streets. Right, So what happens is before you

1391
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: tell this. Now, in this social media era, there's a

1392
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: preparation for telling, right what if he doesn't. If he doesn't,

1393
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: then I can say you didn't hell, and I can

1394
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: say you know I was wrong. But I know what

1395
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: it looks like. You listen, Listen to me now. Yeah,

1396
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm staying on what I'm stand on. You know what

1397
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So when you start saying, yo, why I

1398
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: gotta be lowered to the streets, the streets ain't done

1399
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: nothing for me, they're thinking that's that's that they did

1400
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: this to me. I'm supposed to let me go to jail. Okay, cool,

1401
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 1: if that's your I don't have anything wrong with that,

1402
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to be lower to anything.

1403
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: I just don't. After you tell on somebody, just don't

1404
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: say that your games. Don't try to because they don't

1405
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: even believe that you're tough. After that, when when you're

1406
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: sitting there, listen and you're sitting there and you're yelling

1407
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: gang and you're yelling all that, you got that space,

1408
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: everything that comes, But that's what what'll that's it? I

1409
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: don't conversations, you support you when you are citizen, right, yeah,

1410
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sorry, I haven't That's what I

1411
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: had the same I didn't to the office because that

1412
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: he pays taxes, the police supposed to. He ain't making

1413
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: no money off the books. He ain't. He ain't making

1414
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: no money in the streets where he threatened People's first

1415
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: account was he quoted blood money to me but a

1416
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: gangster rhyme. And this is the first time I haven't

1417
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: met him, and he robbed it as soon as the

1418
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: whole verse and I looked at the things. I don't

1419
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: even really know the whole verse, and I'm like, amost

1420
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: like you know what? I'm like, oh ship. As soon

1421
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: as he finished, like yo, I want you to know,

1422
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm gotta thug bone in my body. I respected that.

1423
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: From there, I was like, all right, cool music, music,

1424
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, listen, I'm gonna be

1425
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: honest with you, and this is my man. But me

1426
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: and him, that's all We have a competence music and

1427
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: it's nothing. You know, I don't have the else in

1428
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: common with him. But that's great. That lets you know

1429
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: how great music is. But what I'm trying to say

1430
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: is that's the difference, like when you yelling a certain

1431
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: thing and then the opposite. That's the problem. That's the

1432
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: saying with me. It's just like being a man. You

1433
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: stand on what you stand on. You know what I'm saying.

1434
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: I got friends they have they don't have a gamester

1435
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 1: morn anybody never been the streets. Some of them as

1436
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,839
Speaker 1: police officers. I got friends that just only go to college.

1437
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: I got friends. If I go walk down the street,

1438
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: I know if we get jumped, they're gonna run. I

1439
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: don't have no issues. I got to issue what to

1440
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: do that Like, Yo, we're gonna get it in, We're

1441
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: gonna get busy. I gotta bust my good in this

1442
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: and that. And then when we get it in and

1443
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: studding happened, you run. You're not who you saying. You

1444
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: just be who you say you are. And I'm okay

1445
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: with that. Totally different, and that's a totally different thing.

1446
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: Gangster is being who you are to me. Geinster is

1447
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: not being to a man that worked for the garbage

1448
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: truck he gae he said, I'm gonna somebody beat him up.

1449
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: Differs nothing, And that's how I mean to sum it up.

1450
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: Just staying on your team, you know, at the end

1451
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: of the day, whatever you on, what your principles are, Yeah,

1452
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: whatever you feel or whatever you display, just staying on it.

1453
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: Don't don't backpedal. You know what I'm saying, You can't

1454
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: because pressure hit Now it's like, oh, Ship, let me

1455
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: get out of the way. I don't need that right

1456
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: Like if sometimes you bring that pressure. So if you

1457
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 1: bring that pressure, you gotta stand on your team face

1458
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: or whatever coming at you. Whether that may mean you

1459
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: may take the all out the situation, you can't. Because

1460
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing nowadays. A lot of people picking twooes

1461
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: what they do because they gotta make sure they're gonna

1462
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 1: take the win. You gotta think just from a street aspect,

1463
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 1: that's the reason why a lot of people get shot.

1464
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't a lot of niggas wouldn't have takeing, no

1465
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: ass swooping, you know what I'm saying. Like they're that

1466
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: scared of their risk their life, so they don't take it.

1467
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: My thing is just staying on your tea and whatever

1468
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: that may be. Because the same thing with my sayment,

1469
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 1: I got people from all different walks of life. The

1470
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: difference is I don't expect them to do Ship for me.

1471
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't need them to fight my battle. So you

1472
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: can be yourself and I'm gonna be good regardless. I

1473
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: know how to handle my it. That's what I'm saying.

1474
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: But that's that's really it. Just stand on your team.

1475
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: What I do want to address is you just said,

1476
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: you just said, is it hard doing what we're doing?

1477
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: Black excidence, no difference, Like just just because I might

1478
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: here on the front line fighting for people, I was

1479
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: doing that back then. So just because I do, and

1480
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: you know I would only use it or a negative

1481
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: type of vibe. Yeah, I think the concede. The reason

1482
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm addressing is because I don't want that. That's like

1483
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: me and my song. Right. We got an album that

1484
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: um we recorded in Kentucky, were living in Kentucky fighting

1485
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: for Brianna. We left the family doing something. Heard a

1486
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: few few few tracks. I don't know what they really did.

1487
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: I'll let y'all know when it so, you know, we

1488
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: left off families and we literally moved to Kentucky, you know,

1489
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: um fighting with the people Kentucky and in the process

1490
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: we on the front line so much, we don't have

1491
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: time to do music. So we we had my engineer

1492
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: Watson come out and we did add within two days.

1493
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: But the reason I'm bringing up because of some people

1494
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: sense it's like, how y'all, what kind of what kind

1495
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: of music you're gonna be doing because you're on the

1496
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: front line fighting for the people. Like Nick, I'm gonna

1497
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: do the same. I'm You're gonna hear the same niggas,

1498
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: fuck you and whatever. And at the end of the day,

1499
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get because the thing is I've been giving

1500
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: them real music before they start seeing us fight for

1501
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: the people. You know what I'm saying, And it's gonna

1502
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: continue to be there. Like I'm not gonna I don't.

1503
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel comfortable change and not being me. I'm

1504
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: not gonna sit here up here like say, I'm not

1505
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 1: gonna make street music or the music? What if that?

1506
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Do you know? What do you mean by that? Like

1507
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: you know that new version of you know, activism, Be

1508
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: honest with you. I hate when people call me activists,

1509
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: even people call me anything. What do you think? What

1510
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: do you think this is? I don't there's no new

1511
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: version of your outcome by the people? What what what

1512
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: world do we call those? Well? No, I mean you

1513
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: can say activists. I'm an organizer. So that's different from

1514
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: being an activist. An activists anybody is an activist is

1515
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: when you feel like something is bothering you and you

1516
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: want to jump in and space. You know, you could

1517
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: do online activism, you could put boots on the ground,

1518
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 1: you could uh raise money, send money, do all of that.

1519
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: That makes you an activist and organizes somebody who can

1520
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: make those opportunities for you to get involved possible. So

1521
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: we're putting together we create the movement where the strategist,

1522
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: if you will. And so I'm an organizer, but all

1523
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: of us are organizes and and and we have become

1524
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: that over you are. I mean, I'm so disorganized. My

1525
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: organizing is so disorganized. I am more of an activist

1526
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: in leadership because I have I know how to move

1527
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: like I'm so disorganized. That's one of the that's one

1528
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,839
Speaker 1: of my things that I have to work on her Linda.

1529
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: They are our organized like within until freedom, which I

1530
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: was trying to say before I missed it, but until

1531
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: and within until freedom, Tamika and Linda organized like I

1532
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: come up with ideas, strategies, I want to go out there.

1533
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna standing on the front line. Me and trade,

1534
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna be out there. What y'all need this to do?

1535
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: We out there. We're gonna put our bodies on the line.

1536
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna utilize our platforms, are voices we got, y'all,

1537
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold your damn that's what we do. But

1538
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to organizing the ship that we come

1539
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: up with, that's their strategy, strategic that we probably don't

1540
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: take the time to map out A, B, C, D.

1541
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: We may be focused on A and B. They're thinking

1542
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: the E and M. We're thinking of how we've been

1543
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: to run through this ship. And you got a job,

1544
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: you gotta walk, you gotta go this way, you gotta go.

1545
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, when you know what, I was just gonna

1546
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: say that that's just naturally what women if you if

1547
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: you go all the way back, women always play a

1548
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: part in that, you know anything. But what I did

1549
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: want to say is that's just like so even with

1550
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: the activists, like I hate when people say, hey, man, um,

1551
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 1: you know I'm watching y'all in politics. I'm not in politics.

1552
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't like politics, and I don't I do what

1553
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: I want to do how I want to do it.

1554
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm not following the rules and I'm not gonna do

1555
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: what you need me to do so we can be

1556
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 1: I like, now I'm gonna do what I do and

1557
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna accept it or you ain't gonna accept it.

1558
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: So I guess a lot of these titles I just

1559
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: kind of straight away from a funny story me and

1560
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: tell I argue about the all time right and here

1561
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, bro man, that ship you're doing

1562
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: it's so much more bigger than the music. And I

1563
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 1: used to would have like, I don't try to make

1564
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: me stop rapping right now and sucking box too, But

1565
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: all the this is just me. I'm just gonna help

1566
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: people regards and I'm gonna jump out there for people,

1567
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: but I'm still gonna be me. I'm I feel like

1568
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: I got to a point where we figured out how

1569
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: to master being us and combining as I ain't gonna learn.

1570
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: Nobody to put me in no bracket like I refused.

1571
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think I know what

1572
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: he means. You know what, let's all to take a break.

1573
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: So we just lets take a break off. And this

1574
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: is something that we've been talking about internally, um for

1575
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: a while. I'm trying to start a movement with my niggas.

1576
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 1: Your niggas don't excuse you, you don't call each other niggas, Okay,

1577
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: So listen, replaced the word it's a meeting called the

1578
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: yadas like a kig and you know, and that I

1579
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: was using the word ya day not knowing it was

1580
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: an actually African meeting to it. Okay. So we've been trying,

1581
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: but so what do y'all stand on? Just the other day,

1582
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,839
Speaker 1: I called my son Trey, and my son just released

1583
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: one of the videos on the album that they worked on,

1584
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: and so I went to the Until Freedom Out Organization's page.

1585
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't run it, Linda does, and I went on

1586
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: there and I and and then I clicked the video

1587
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: to watch it and listen to it, and they negative.

1588
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: It's negative, a negative, I said. I called my son, said,

1589
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: is there another clip that we could actually use the post?

1590
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: And he said no, because sometimes it's not time to say, bro,

1591
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: what I want to say. They but my thing is this, right,

1592
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: that's definitely a debate, right, And I'm and I don't

1593
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: have a problem with the debate right because we understand

1594
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: the origin of the word nigger, we understand where it's

1595
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: came from, how it's been used to oppress out people,

1596
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: to demean on people. But we also have to realize

1597
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: that at some point our people embrace that and we

1598
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: utilize it as a form a symbolism of unity right

1599
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: to where we utilize you, that's my nigga. Right, So

1600
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: you don't get to tell me what something means to

1601
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 1: me and the people I'm talking to. Right. If you

1602
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: think about language, right, language, the same word means different

1603
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 1: things in different languages. That's what language is. Language is

1604
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: only a level of communication, the form of communication between

1605
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: the people that you in in that language are familiar with. Right.

1606
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 1: Because in Spanish they have words right that means different

1607
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: English and Spanish. Right, and they pronounced the same exact way. Right.

1608
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: So nigga is one of those words in our colloquialism. Right.

1609
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: We've used that in our colloquialism in our communities to

1610
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: embrace each other. Just just a word that we use. Right.

1611
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: So people get so caught up and oh, you use

1612
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: the word, and I'm like, I'm talking to the boy

1613
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 1: on the corner that with him and his friend talk.

1614
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: The only word they used to talk to each other's nigga. Right.

1615
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: I need them to come to the movie. I'm not

1616
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: trying to get you. You already here, you're to Oh,

1617
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe you. You don't need to believe Mebbies.

1618
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,759
Speaker 1: But my thing is this, It's not just the babies,

1619
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: it's the it's what babies right, because I know that

1620
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: the world already toxic, not just toxic. I know that

1621
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: when I use the word nigga, not gonna close something money,

1622
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: you're good, But when they're gonna look what's up. I've

1623
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: just seen you over here. I've just seen you with

1624
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: this person. I seen you, and you're not so far

1625
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: removed to where you're coming here talking to language a

1626
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: language to us that we don't even identify what or

1627
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: talk to. I don't have to try to be something

1628
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly. So what I'm trying to say is

1629
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: it may not be your method, right, because there's a

1630
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: lot of people that use methods to do ship that

1631
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't agree with. Right. It's a lot of people

1632
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: that dress ways and talk ways that I don't agree with.

1633
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't it's a lot of my my um idols

1634
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 1: who have vocabularies that's far beyond the community, But I

1635
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: love them. Some of the words they say, I don't

1636
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: know what the funk they're talking about, right, I gotta

1637
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: look it up. But I love them because it makes

1638
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: me push myself. Some people don't want to be pushed.

1639
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: They want you to meet them, meet them where they are. Right.

1640
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: So I don't judge you because you talk a language

1641
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 1: that most of the people that I'm where I'm from

1642
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: don't care about. Right, I don't think that you even

1643
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: communicate or care about. I'm not that you don't care about.

1644
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: But I know that the language that you're using does

1645
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: not communicate with the people that I'm trying to save.

1646
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't you're doing said you're doing something wrong. I

1647
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: don't judge nobody if your method is working for you,

1648
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: if you're changing lives, if you're changing When I go

1649
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: on my d MS, it's sixteen fifteen, fourteen, thirteen year

1650
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: old kids. That's like, damn, I'm I listened to you

1651
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: and I want to change my life. I was in

1652
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: this lifestyle. I want to change, but love it. What

1653
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: what do I need to do? That means what I'm

1654
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: doing is working. Whether you agree or the method I'm

1655
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: doing it, everybody, it's a different direction to get to

1656
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: the same location, right, I don't got to travel the

1657
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: way you travel. If what I wasn't doing, if I'm

1658
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: doing what i'm doing is not effective, to talk to me.

1659
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing is effective. So if the

1660
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: word nigga is all you gotta talk about, if you

1661
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 1: if only thing you gotta tell me is that I

1662
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: need to stop doing doing the world nigga, I'm doing

1663
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: something right. You did a rally. I think it was

1664
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: a grand call. Of course, you have the Latin kids

1665
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: of blood, so you did you have to speak to them,

1666
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: you kind of speak to them where they at. Because

1667
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: I know that because when my form of communication right,

1668
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: my form of activism, my form of leadership is understanding.

1669
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: I say, when I was fifteen and sixteen, how would

1670
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: you have had to have a conversation with me for

1671
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: me to get it? Not just just talking. You kind

1672
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: of came with the suit and this and these big words.

1673
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: And because I'm gonna look at you and he who

1674
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: is this bozough, I'm not even gonna first of all,

1675
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: your whole approach to me is gonna be wrong. Right,

1676
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 1: So when the dude, that's why we got into the streets,

1677
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: because the drug dealer was the most successful person we had, right,

1678
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to have drug dealers that had

1679
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: a sense of consciousness right to what they didn't want.

1680
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: They was trying to keep the young boys out of streets.

1681
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: They would give us money rather than give us packs.

1682
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They don't want to give

1683
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: us packs. That or you want to get some money,

1684
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 1: blood here and take a pack now we want Or

1685
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: you play ball and you're smart. Right, I'm listening to you,

1686
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: you twelve team, you're smart. We want to make sure

1687
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: you get to college. We're gonna you need some new sneakers,

1688
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: or you need money to go to camp, We're gonna

1689
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: give you that. That's those the o G s I

1690
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: was around. I was lucky enough to have those levels

1691
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: of o GS. But I understand if they had had

1692
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: something else on their mind, they could have derailed me

1693
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: another way. So when I have the conversations with the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

1694
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: sixte year olds, I'm like, I want to talk to

1695
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: you in a manner that I know that you're gonna

1696
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: receive it, not the way I'm trying to force feed

1697
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: you something, because I think you should accept the way

1698
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing. No, that's not how you communicate with people.

1699
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: You don't communicate with people, how you think or you

1700
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: want them. Oh well, I'm not saying the world nigger,

1701
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say I'm gonna use these words, these

1702
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: big words that you never heard, and you got to

1703
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: accept it. If that works for you, I'm not knocking it.

1704
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you might change some lives with that. I know

1705
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have worked with me, So understanding that that

1706
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't to work with me, I come to these young

1707
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: people the way that I know it would have worked

1708
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: with me. So there's gonna be everybody's got a different

1709
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: perspective on it, yourself, because that goes to what you're saying,

1710
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: is that just you have to be authentic at the

1711
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: same time something that you think is gonna resident because

1712
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: my thing just because you're just like, we don't drink champs.

1713
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: Now you may see us on Instagram on TV. Guess what,

1714
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: when I leave here, I go right back to my

1715
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: city and I'm in everything in every community, dealing with

1716
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 1: real life. So I'll be damned if I don't be

1717
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: myself and continue that speak on what I'm going through.

1718
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm just blessed, Like how

1719
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 1: might say it, I'm blessed. I understand what it is

1720
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: being part of the old and being a real big homie.

1721
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: A real big homie is you grab some of the

1722
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: little homies under your under your wing or in the head,

1723
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: like hey man, yeah bro take that ship there, ro like,

1724
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: at least give yourself a chance. But I understand the

1725
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: pressure hit and it's nothing that. Secondly, then you gotta

1726
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do the feedure family. See. The

1727
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't I don't walk away to understand

1728
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: what the reality is because I've been there and we're gonna,

1729
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna, well, I was am that speaks of that

1730
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: coot come as you are. I'm acceptable, but I really

1731
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: did do so. Check out an album coming out with

1732
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: all my ships back to the normal ship. But the

1733
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: thing is, if you ever pay attention to my music,

1734
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 1: I always give you the real. That's what makes people.

1735
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: I think that's why people even gravitating to me doing

1736
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: what I do or or just me as a person,

1737
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: because I always been me. I never try to be

1738
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: nothing else. Man, I can't. The only thing I want

1739
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: to say on the nigger thing, and and you know

1740
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care. I say nigga all the time,

1741
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm talking to my kids. Maybe that's

1742
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,560
Speaker 1: why we talked to each other. I'm sorry. Yeah, it

1743
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 1: gets bad sometimes, so you know, I'm not trying to

1744
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm not judgmental about it at all. But what I

1745
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: do know is that if you try to make an

1746
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: album right now using a word that is offensive or

1747
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: has negative history for the Jewish community or for the

1748
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: gay community, it won't happen. It won't get published. And

1749
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: so you have to ask yourself, why are they okay

1750
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: what you're using a word that is demeaning to our

1751
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: community or that has a history of being demeaning to

1752
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: our community. But they will never ever let you say

1753
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: some of the same type of words about other people.

1754
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, because when Michael Jackson said don't

1755
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: drew me down, they took that joint off the stands,

1756
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: cleaned the album, and then put the album back out.

1757
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 1: So that's the only that's the only issue that comes

1758
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: up for me. And and it doesn't mean I don't

1759
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,879
Speaker 1: use it, but it does mean that when I'm speaking

1760
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: in public, I'm careful about saying it, knowing that it

1761
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: would be fine for me to say something that sends

1762
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: a trigger to a certain community, but I could never

1763
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: go out and say anything offensive to other people who

1764
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: are who who who respect the three of their oppression.

1765
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: If we look at the history of black people, right,

1766
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: we had to make chiplands a delicacy might even if

1767
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things in house. We had to

1768
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: make lemons limited. We we had to figure out how

1769
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: to make everything they gave us. And that's what that's

1770
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 1: that's like to let me, I'm just saying that it

1771
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,560
Speaker 1: is yet another perspective that should be do about you

1772
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: to give my perspective. Right, So, black people are the

1773
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 1: most creative people in the world. We figured out how

1774
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: to take whatever you gave us in multiplied right, We

1775
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 1: figured out how to take everything negative that you thought

1776
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: for us and turn it into something else. We that's

1777
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: what our culture is. When you talking about those other right,

1778
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: they don't do that. They they've never taken If you

1779
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 1: look at most other coaches, whatever was negative directed to them,

1780
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 1: they kept it negative. But here's the deal. But but

1781
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: but it's a great point. But there's a certain level

1782
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: of respect that their communities get as well. And you

1783
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: got to ask yourself, why is it? Because they're things

1784
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: that we've been fighting for and the challenges that we

1785
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 1: face and the constant disrespect that we receive. Perhaps perhaps

1786
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,560
Speaker 1: it has something to do with the fact that we

1787
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: constantly take the negative and make it positive, and therefore

1788
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: people don't feel like we really need just because in

1789
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: other communities, when another community past, but when but when

1790
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: other communities feel something is wrong to them, they put

1791
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: their foot down and they mean it and they and

1792
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: they don't and they don't make it good. So that

1793
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: you don't ever think because there's certain things about you,

1794
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: in terms of loyalty and other things that I have

1795
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: learned about you over time, I can't play with it.

1796
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: You never make it good. You've been very clear that

1797
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: this is a line that if anybody crosses it, it's

1798
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: a problem for me. And so I think that our

1799
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: communities made need to look at who gets what those

1800
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: things to what was the line? Because that was your man.

1801
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: That's such a big context. I'm so glad you were little,

1802
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: because I can't wait to give my man. That man

1803
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 1: was scurity. Man. I wasn't in security. But I'm saying

1804
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit, a little bit because

1805
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: he tried this what he does let me a little bit.

1806
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 1: You know he's doing that? Was this man too like me.

1807
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: I got love for for for for about a decade, right,

1808
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 1: glad Iss been my friend. Was my friend? Rights that

1809
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: he really? He was my friend? Like to Meka knows

1810
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 1: I told this is my friend. Like everybody who knows

1811
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: this is my friend. I've had arguments with people. I've

1812
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: got in debates, Oh that this was my friend. Because

1813
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: I first came home, you know, I'm fresh up trying

1814
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 1: to do this, and I was like, yo, I got

1815
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to get a record deal. I

1816
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: had the single that was out Jim jones On and

1817
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: he shot the video for me. He helped me do

1818
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: all this ship like we're gonna get your record deal.

1819
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 1: We've got some money in my pocket. Was helping me

1820
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: do a lot of ship when when dudes who I

1821
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: had done shipped for in this industry didn't do nothing

1822
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: for me. Dudes, I've that I thought it was family.

1823
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: I came home with nothing, didn't do nothing for me.

1824
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: This was one of the first people that just fun

1825
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: with me. Honestly, wasn't on a bullsh like y'all funk

1826
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: with you. I like your music, mom Bom, and we

1827
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: we started having conversations. I'm like, yo, I funk with

1828
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 1: the dude. He's a he's a white dude. He don't

1829
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: really know much from the hood. He's not hood, but

1830
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 1: that's who he is. And he'll tell you. I'm not hooked.

1831
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: He gotta he got a website. This is what he does.

1832
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: He push it like, this's what I do. You know,

1833
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I pushed it, you know, and I'm okay, cool, but

1834
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: just understand you might have to deal with that. I

1835
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Okay cool. When you do

1836
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: some bullshit, I'm gonna check you because that's who I am.

1837
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna let you do some bullshit on my

1838
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: watch and not check you Boom. But with somebody do

1839
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: some bullshit to you, and I know it's bullshit because

1840
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: they think you're just a white boy, I'm gonna check them, like, Okay,

1841
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: I know you're white boy. You think but he is

1842
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: my friends, so we're not gonna play that either. So

1843
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: that's been my position in his life for a while.

1844
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: So he'll come to New York if he was in.

1845
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: When he lived in New York, we hung out all

1846
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: the time. Boom boom. I knew his family at the dinner,

1847
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: at the table women this house, like this is who

1848
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 1: my this is for my friend, this is friendship. So

1849
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: Niggason said what they want nigger. I've never been nigger.

1850
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: You can buy, you can't pay me for nothing. I'm

1851
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: not a sucker, you know what I'm saying. I've never

1852
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: been anybody who knows me. No, I stand on what

1853
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm stand on. But he's showed he is exhibited a

1854
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: level of loyalty and friendship to me that wasn't exhibited

1855
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: to people that I thought was my family and friends.

1856
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: And that's just you know what I'm saying. So that's

1857
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: what it was. So for years we went through that.

1858
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: I took flat with him when he did ship. I

1859
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 1: had be for high Tonight seven when he was talking

1860
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: about all types of ship me Evil had conversations Mr

1861
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: C like, Yo, this is my friend whatever it is,

1862
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: I get it, but it's my friend me and why

1863
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,600
Speaker 1: I had a conversation, So he did with ray J

1864
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 1: this is my friend. Yeah whatever, all right, Why I

1865
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: hear you? But that's my man. So I'm not letting

1866
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: nothing happened to him. That's just a fact. And this

1867
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: this is a real ship, like he had real ship,

1868
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: and I had to step in like, Okay, I get

1869
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm gonna make him fix that, but

1870
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: I can't let you do nothing to him because it's

1871
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 1: my friend. So if you crossed the line of that,

1872
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't understand, this is still my friend. I've done that

1873
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: on the strength of who I am as a man.

1874
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: The part where he crossed the line for me was

1875
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: in this situation with Mr Fericon, right, So when he

1876
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 1: when the situation happened, I didn't know what was going on.

1877
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, people calling me blah blah blah.

1878
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: I see this on the thing. I'm like, black, what happened?

1879
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: Oh you see what he said? I'm like, what did

1880
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: he say? I don't understand what you're saying he said.

1881
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I just did interview with um who

1882
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: was it? Del UGUALI you know deal, Luli said what

1883
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: he wanted to say. Nobody, nobody talks about that part.

1884
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor anyway. My friend, that's that's

1885
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: her friend, and I know de Usui, but nobody has

1886
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: called him to the table about what his part in

1887
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: that situation because he didn't. He had a big part

1888
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: in that situation. That's it. He had a part in

1889
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: that situation. Nobody everybody ignored his part. I guess because

1890
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Lad is the white dude that they didn't like cool.

1891
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,560
Speaker 1: I did, and he's a white dude that didn't like

1892
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: so cool. So he asked del usually some questions. He

1893
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: said this, and he labeled it saying that the minister

1894
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: calls for violence against you, something like, Glad, where where

1895
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: did you get that phone? He sent me a clip?

1896
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: So when I see the clip, I'm like, I see

1897
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 1: the clip, but that's not the whole clip. Lad, Where

1898
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: where did you get this? Oh? He's been saying this, Okay,

1899
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: but what has that got to do with this clip

1900
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 1: that you just sent me? Because this is not the

1901
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 1: whole clip that that the minister said. So I sent

1902
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: him the whole clip. I said, you need to listen

1903
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: to the whole clip because you'll realize that he didn't

1904
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 1: call for violence. He was talking about something out of

1905
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: the Bible that talked that it says those stones at

1906
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 1: evil and this and that, not the Jews. You know,

1907
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 1: those stones that when you see him, those stones of truth,

1908
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,560
Speaker 1: not physical stones to hurt nobody. He was talking. He

1909
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,560
Speaker 1: was using scripture, so he left. He said, oh, I

1910
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: didn't see this whole thing, all right, So what I'm

1911
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna do is I'm gonna take it down. Me. Trade

1912
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: called me and trade me and trade head converent said

1913
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 1: it's trade called me like, yo, boom, what's going on.

1914
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: We got on the phone with him. He said, Yo,

1915
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it down, and I'm gonna say that

1916
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: out of respect. I'm taking it down even though I

1917
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: don't agree with a lot of things the minute said,

1918
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm going to take it that. I said, Okay, cool,

1919
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: I can't tell you to agree with somebody with somebody says,

1920
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So cool. That was enough.

1921
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: He took it down. Anybody like, now you need an apology,

1922
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 1: like yo, he calls me like mice. You know, I'm

1923
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 1: not gonna apologize because the situation is something I don't

1924
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: feel like I have to apologize. I took it down.

1925
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: I said, I misquoted it. I did everything possible, but

1926
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: people now trying to make me apologize. Now. When I

1927
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 1: heard the apology thing and make me apologize, I said

1928
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: to myself, damn this reminds me of the situation that

1929
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: happened went to me good when they were saying, yo,

1930
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 1: you gotta say this, and you gotta say this, and

1931
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the Holy Unites like you need to say this, and

1932
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, nobody can't force you to say what

1933
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: you don't want to say. Who gets the funk to

1934
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: tell you how to talk? Right? So this is what's

1935
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: my thing. I'm like, yo, listen, you don't gotta apologize,

1936
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: but you gotta write the role. You gotta take that

1937
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: ship down and said you made a mistake. Now, if

1938
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 1: you don't want to apologize, cool, I don't. I'm not

1939
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: asking you to apologize, right, And he's like, yeah, you know,

1940
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 1: thank you because it just messed up so cool, you

1941
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: don't want, but you gotta deal with the ramification and

1942
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: apologizing because the nation of Islam is gonna want an

1943
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 1: apology from me. Now if you wanted to deal with

1944
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: what comes with that. Cool, He's like, you know from

1945
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: that because I stand on what I'm stand on and

1946
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to lose friends and everything behind this. So

1947
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm okay, that's how you feel. But you fixed the wrong.

1948
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: You took that ship off, the thing you said you

1949
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: made a mistake. Cool. Now Royce comes up, Yo. He

1950
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 1: had a conversation with him saying, oh, Flash said, I

1951
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: gave my song money, done this and that. I'm like, okay,

1952
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 1: why would that conversation come up with you and Royce?

1953
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Where would that give my some money for what? What

1954
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: if you ever gave my so all money from you loaned?

1955
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: You've done ship for me like in chrisis that friends

1956
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: would do. Because I thought this was my friend. If

1957
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 1: you call em like, y'all need this, I need you

1958
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: to let me give me five dollars right now for

1959
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 1: something that's going on here, I send it to me.

1960
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Everything going said, Yo, I've given Nory money because that's

1961
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: your friend, right, this is your friends. So the fact

1962
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: that he had a conversation with a man about money

1963
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 1: he gave me that wasn't really nothing. Seven hundred dollars

1964
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 1: like I think we've been I thought we's friends for

1965
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: ten plushes. So when you having a conversation with another

1966
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: man about what you do for me, I don't even

1967
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 1: know where that comes from. So that's one thing. Then

1968
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: me and me and Royce getting to back and forth

1969
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: debate about it drove me out of my mind. Trays

1970
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: called me that right now, Trades texting me like, get old.

1971
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm mad because I'm having a conversation with Nigga and

1972
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 1: We're going back and forth, and I'm like, regardless of

1973
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: what I'm standing on, what I'm stand on, and this

1974
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 1: is my friend. But obviously I'm starting to realize he

1975
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: I might not be his friend. But by the way,

1976
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: this conversation is going right, me and Royce like, but

1977
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: why would a man say this? And even though I

1978
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: still had a situation with Royce, you got my phone number,

1979
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 1: you could have called me. I didn't you have to

1980
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 1: put some on Instagram. And that was my issue with Royce,

1981
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 1: like racing you got my number. If you didn't have

1982
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 1: my number and you said Lad said he did this

1983
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 1: for my son, I wouldn't feel away. But the fact

1984
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 1: that you've got my number, we're supposed to have a relationship.

1985
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: I feel you out of pocket for that. So that's

1986
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: really where my whole thing with him is. I'm it

1987
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: even about Lad at this point, it's about me and

1988
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 1: you blood just say, yo, you know what, I could

1989
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: have called no, and you He's still staying, Nah, I

1990
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't have called you. He said that, So I said

1991
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: it to the world. I don't understand why you think

1992
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: that's okay. So we're going back and forth after you know,

1993
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: the phone with him, Me and Tray have a conversation

1994
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: trade like, nah, Broe, that's my brother. I'm gonna take

1995
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: in what he I'm gonna absorbing, he said to me. Right,

1996
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: everybody's calling me saying this, I'm absorbing. So I called Lad.

1997
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, Glad, I just don't understand how a conversation

1998
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 1: about you giving me money came into a conversation with

1999
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: you Royce, Like, where did that? Oh? I thought I

2000
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 1: was having a private conversation this and that. So I remember.

2001
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: So we're going back and forth, like, but what is

2002
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 1: it that? Why don't you feel that you want to apologize?

2003
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 1: It is there, it's you. He's like, He's like, listen,

2004
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 1: I said, Nick, Nick can't. Nick Cannon got into the situation.

2005
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: He apologized. He said, well, Nick Cannon had to apologize

2006
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 1: because his money was affected, right, he said, My money

2007
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: ain't being affected. I had the best month in lad TV. Ever,

2008
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 1: So I said, so you're telling me that if your

2009
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: money was so, it ain't about principle for you. It

2010
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: ain't about you standing on with you because you told

2011
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: me I'm standing on what I'm stand on as a man.

2012
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm so now if those if that was your money

2013
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: being affected, then you would apologized. So so you don't

2014
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 1: feel that black people affect your money. You don't feel

2015
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:39,719
Speaker 1: like disrespecting one of the leaders of black community affects

2016
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: your money. So you know, you don't feel like you

2017
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 1: have to apologize because if it affected your money and

2018
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 1: this was a bad week of lad you would go

2019
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 1: up and say, Yo, you know what, apologize, that's what

2020
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: you're saying to me. He's like, I'm saying I mean, listen,

2021
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. But we gotta be honest. If

2022
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't affecting my money, I would have to think differently.

2023
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 1: I said, Oh, so you want to you say you

2024
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't lose friends. You want to compromise my friendship, throw

2025
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: me under the bus for protecting you as a friend,

2026
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 1: lose lord, You and Maul the only people that black

2027
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: people who've been holding you down for years. Because it's

2028
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 1: not affecting your money, so we just expendable. But but

2029
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: if it was affecting your money, you would apologize. You

2030
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: ain't gonna affect your money because you know that we

2031
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: gotta deal with ship as black people from this community

2032
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: that you profit off every day. You don't give a

2033
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: funk about that. I said, Okay, Glad, this is I

2034
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: realized now you never was my friend. At that point,

2035
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: I realized, you're not my friend. You feel like I

2036
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: benefited you as some way, so you kept me around

2037
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: because I don't jeopardize or benefit or take away from

2038
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: your money. The minute that I take away from your money,

2039
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: then you're gonna do ship for me. That makes sense.

2040
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Right At that point, I realized we're not friends. You

2041
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He he drew that line. It

2042
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 1: wasn't nobody else. You can't talk me into not being

2043
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 1: man's with my man. Nobody can. If I called you

2044
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: my friend, the only thing that could damage my friendships

2045
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: you nobody can't tell me nothing about you. The change

2046
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 1: I went to that man, he looked me and he

2047
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 1: talked to me on the phone and told me that

2048
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna pologize because it didn't jeopdize his money,

2049
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: even though it harmed black communities and the people that

2050
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: I loved and people that I looked up to even

2051
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 1: or harm them. It didn't gemp it out your money.

2052
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: So because I came to you as your friend who

2053
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, was front line with you, willing to take

2054
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:28,600
Speaker 1: beefs and ship from you and say, yo, this is

2055
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 1: probably the best thing that you didn't that wasn't something

2056
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: that you after he was still running around with him

2057
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: because I said, he told because he was citizen beat you,

2058
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:44,480
Speaker 1: you get go that I was holding, I'm saying, that's

2059
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,799
Speaker 1: your job. Listen, how you're not gonna go beat the niggas.

2060
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: He didn't gonna shoot nobody. So I didn't take it

2061
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: as that. I took it as a civilian. Did the

2062
01:52:54,400 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: civilian take take you ship? Didn't even talk. It is

2063
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: the consequences of friendships with white people. And that's a

2064
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: hard reality that people might not want to hear, but

2065
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: it is the consequences of being friends with white people

2066
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 1: because even they don't understand the damage that they cause

2067
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: to our community and our relationships. They don't necessarily understand

2068
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: because it's not but it's like you know, theirs and

2069
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 1: when we talk about this all the time. We just

2070
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 1: on street politicians the other day on our project. It's

2071
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: just a plug we got. We're gonna be the things

2072
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: whether with dream Chance. Eventually, especially we might have to

2073
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: move our podcast to may Me. But you know, I've

2074
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: experienced the same. In fact, it's a couple of white

2075
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: women that are I'm friends with that come to mind,

2076
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 1: and I think about situations that have happened over time

2077
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: where they really either thought they were doing the right

2078
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 1: thing or really didn't care, but it ended up causing

2079
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 1: harm to me and people that I have relationships with,

2080
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: And it's just it's just the consequences of the fact

2081
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 1: that they don't have the analysis, if you will, or

2082
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: the commitment to our people in our community, because in

2083
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 1: this situation, I know Lad, and there's been times and

2084
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 1: I've actually had conversations. I remember being in um where

2085
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: was I what's the club with the stairs? And in

2086
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: New York jay Z's club loud as Hell, and I'm

2087
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 1: over there, like in the corner telling Glad about some

2088
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 1: ship that I saw on his site that I was like,

2089
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: it's not cool when everybody knows this. I called me

2090
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: the other day to have a conversation with him about something. Charlemagne,

2091
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: I deal with him all day on text message. Y'all.

2092
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 1: I do it to Tip, I do it to killing

2093
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 1: Mike all of them when I feel like there's something

2094
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 1: that you know that they're doing that needs to be

2095
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: addressed right and that I think they need to think

2096
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: about differently. And so I, because he was my son's friend,

2097
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 1: I have done the same thing with Lad. But what

2098
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: I realized is that in his mind, and this is

2099
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: what often happens with white people that I'm talking about

2100
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 1: in state of emergency. My book is that it's about

2101
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 1: them first, even the ones that are your good friends,

2102
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: they haven't made the commitment yet that they need to

2103
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: sacrifice themselves and their privilege in order to ensure that

2104
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: their friendship with you is about uplifting and empowering you.

2105
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: Their position is it's me first. And then I thought,

2106
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: with you, but I'm not going to put myself in

2107
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 1: harm's way in order to help you. And that's a problem.

2108
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's it. That's what it was good.

2109
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: But my son is as much as cool as you.

2110
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: Never had an issue with the clickbait in the way

2111
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: to me, and when he did it to W I

2112
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: felt it was extreme. I would call him and you

2113
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: gotta take that. People don't even know. There was so

2114
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 1: much that I have Lad change that I'm like, you

2115
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 1: can't post that he did. He did it to Chis,

2116
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: my brother. We did drink tims together. That's when I

2117
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: did drink. He wrote about Chili talks about still carrying

2118
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: the gun even while on parole. No, that wasn't the one.

2119
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was. That's what he wrote.

2120
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Is like. But just when he said Chi talks about

2121
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: still having guns while he's on parole, I'm like, what

2122
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: do you I said that man on parole now he

2123
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: don't know he was talking about it then, and I'm like, no,

2124
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 1: you putting click he said when they listened to the interview,

2125
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, glad. Some people don't listen to the interview

2126
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: the motherfucking his parole over. Some might be like, yeah,

2127
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 1: we need to call him in and check him, pat

2128
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 1: him down, all type of ship. She calling me like cheat, Like, blad,

2129
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 1: you gotta take that. He didn't. I'm glad, you gotta

2130
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: take that down right now. He did it to another

2131
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: friend of ours, Omar, who killed somebody when he was

2132
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: young in a fight. Physically, you know, we're not with

2133
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 1: guns or anything. Um and Omar is my son's best friend,

2134
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: but he's very close to me as well. And he

2135
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: and the storyline was something like, you know, it was

2136
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: basically glorifying because when its stemmed from it stems from

2137
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: Joe Buttons right, So Joe buttons at like Joe. Joe

2138
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: is a dude, right that I actually like right, Like,

2139
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: when me and Joe was in the same facility, we

2140
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:03,120
Speaker 1: have the best conversations. We build like the studio. When

2141
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: he first started shooting his podcast out with the studio

2142
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: that I introduced him to, Like, Joe see me coming

2143
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 1: from a studio in his hood, and I was like,

2144
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 1: where you out of the studio right here, like where

2145
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: I left, right down the block. I'm like, yeah, you

2146
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 1: need to come over here. He didn't even know about

2147
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: the studio. And then the meeting my Man's the podcast

2148
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 1: that they said this podcast movie was originally set up

2149
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: for me and to meet this podcast. We told him

2150
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: that we're gonna shoot the podcast, and Joe ended up

2151
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: shooting the podcast first. So that's how the Joe Bid

2152
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: podcast actually got started. So this is my I was

2153
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: in the studio when he did the song this, and

2154
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: Drake like I was there and like, this is my man.

2155
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 1: We're sitting there kicking it all the time. So when

2156
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 1: we in each other's vicinity. I just there's a level

2157
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: of love, like when you see it happened with him

2158
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 1: and me, goes, I was at the B T Wars.

2159
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: I had just left him. We left. I called him

2160
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 1: you good, Yeah, I'm good one mom. This is this

2161
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: is who I proceive. But Joe has a way of

2162
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: doing like seeing little slick shit, right, that would be

2163
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 1: like what why did you say that about me? Like

2164
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 1: it just be like how did that happen? Joe? Like

2165
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: you said that people ask you something about me? Like

2166
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't people saying that might son is fake with this,

2167
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, the civil rights thing. I don't know. This

2168
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: was the word that people were saying. Why would you

2169
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 1: you know already bit my nail? So what are we

2170
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 1: going with this? No? So I'm just so so anyway

2171
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: you can tell us. I don't know what I'm saying,

2172
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, it just was just it was something I

2173
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: had to get off my chest because I love Joe.

2174
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: He said some ship that just kind of rubbed me

2175
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 1: just a little. Listen, I feel like I'm not I'm

2176
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: talking and I'm way talking to Joe, and my talking

2177
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 1: to Joe, I'm almost I'm like only attablished like you

2178
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 1: talking to anyway. So anyway, Joe Black Joe Buzz had

2179
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: did an interview and he was talking about Lad. Right

2180
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 1: Black Lad had did an interview talking about Joe. Joe

2181
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: went on his podcasts we talked about Lad and said, yeah,

2182
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 1: you was at you know, you was somewhere with my son.

2183
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: Y'all was at a club and I've seen y'all day

2184
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the funk I need to I'm

2185
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 1: definitely not going to if you and my son, and

2186
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: they're like, this is definitely not a club I need

2187
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: to be at. So I'm like, what what does that mean? Joe?

2188
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: You know what? And you and he said, and um,

2189
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Glad was talking about my friend Omar. He said yeah,

2190
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: and Blad was, you know, he's trying to get some props.

2191
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 1: So I'm with my my friend Omar. He kills somebody

2192
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 1: with his bare hands. So Joe Button continuously used that

2193
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 1: during the segment of the show, you with your guy

2194
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: who kills somebody with his bare hands, your guy who

2195
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: kills someone. He keeps saying that the guy kills So

2196
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 1: now Lad knows how to get hulls. So he interviews Omar,

2197
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 1: the guy who kills and that's the topic. The guy

2198
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,720
Speaker 1: who killed somebody with his bare hands, so Ladd knows

2199
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 1: how to get click back. Joe Budding talked about him

2200
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: Black brings him up there. He talks always up he

2201
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: one of us like he is straight down like him

2202
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: and Trade remind me of each other so much. You

2203
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 1: don't really talk that much. And he whatever like this.

2204
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: So that's why these are two of my fast you

2205
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Trade but right so him and

2206
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 1: always like the same. So he brings up oh, up

2207
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:13,800
Speaker 1: there and he does an interview. Oh so all of

2208
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 1: the titles is like he kills somebody with his big

2209
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 1: hands and this isn't that? So now omar been home

2210
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: for like the last ten years, eight years or whatever,

2211
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 1: not a person who he killed. He would kill somebody

2212
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: a sixteen, seventeen years old out of a fight, whatever

2213
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:32,800
Speaker 1: the situation to do, end up dying. Those people still

2214
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 1: lost a loved one, you know what I'm saying. So

2215
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 1: he's creating situations with him back in his home town

2216
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 1: like he's growing for He asked him questions. That's kind

2217
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 1: of being and always like yo, I did what I did?

2218
02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: You know I've served my time for it. You know,

2219
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 1: I wish his family no problems this and that, and

2220
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 1: he but this is my truth. So he ends up

2221
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 1: getting into situation on the internet with people from his

2222
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: own hometelling yo, funk that this is on and this

2223
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: and that. So why would you have to like? But

2224
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: I understand. So she was man like, Yeah, why the

2225
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 1: funk would he even post that up? Why would he

2226
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 1: try to glorify this and that? And I understood, But

2227
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 1: I also understood. Like I told Oh, I said, you know,

2228
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 1: Lad was I had now when it comes to security,

2229
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:18,760
Speaker 1: Omar was the person that had to do with security

2230
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:24,240
Speaker 1: for black Like he would call you know what I'm said, Um,

2231
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 1: Lad would called me and be like, yo, you got

2232
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: somebody that I'm going sudden and set up like I'm

2233
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna called Old. This is my mates just came home.

2234
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 1: He slid. I know he's gonna make sure you're good.

2235
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 1: So oh and him became but you said, you know what,

2236
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,640
Speaker 1: the black did it to me too, because whatever interview

2237
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: I did with you, somehow another became that I hated

2238
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 1: black men. What was we talking about in that interview?

2239
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 1: We were talking about speeching about Bill Cosby and then

2240
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 1: she said something about anything. Next thing you know, I

2241
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: want to Internet, and Twitter decides because you know, Twitter

2242
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 1: is a brain, and Twitter decided that I don't like

2243
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 1: black Man, And I'm like, see that's around going on

2244
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,960
Speaker 1: these shows. But you know, at the end of the day,

2245
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: black really was my song. No I was no, No, No,

2246
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I was glass Friend. Well, I know that's a quick

2247
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 1: time slot because there's no time about my phone too

2248
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:37,000
Speaker 1: quick time? What does that mean you one of thosewo

2249
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 1: questions one of two questions you started off this quick

2250
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 1: time is line. I got to choose, choose one. You

2251
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 1: gotta change it to who you want to put it too. No,

2252
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: I could be everybody can answer this, Nasa jay z Oh,

2253
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 1: that's tough because I gotta go all our family. I'm

2254
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna say no, it's me and laws about I'll rock

2255
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: for both of them. If you're going off, we need

2256
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:07,400
Speaker 1: what was what you bet? I just say I'm going

2257
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 1: off family. I'm saying if I had to pick, I'm

2258
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 1: going with eyes nas is more. That's two guys. When

2259
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 1: you know what's stop stop answer your phone. Um, I

2260
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 1: mean I think I'm gonna have to say j and

2261
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna say I mean, I don't know that's

2262
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 1: a hard like who asked that stupid question? It's two times.

2263
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 1: Apparently you've been to start with you buddy, get up

2264
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: boards a U G K Jay supports me. Okay, we

2265
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 1: moved onto that. Called me on the phone and tell me.

2266
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 1: I say, I'm gonna say both. And what was the question?

2267
02:04:57,240 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 1: The second question? Boys, I'm to get a voice. Yes,

2268
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I'm sorry alright with Tupac

2269
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:12,960
Speaker 1: A bit no funny about that. Both I love listen

2270
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: to I love this because it's in New York. Ship.

2271
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 1: But when I look, who's closer to who I am? Like, like,

2272
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: it's just you know what I'm saying. So like, both

2273
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 1: of them have a real imprint on my life. But

2274
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:35,360
Speaker 1: Pop is closer to my spirit animal. Definitely to be

2275
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: good with you, I was in a relationship with Tupac

2276
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 1: in my mom. We just put that my boyfriend. Okay,

2277
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:55,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, noise shout out to be there. You know

2278
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: my company bump Box, we just actually released. That's your company. Yeah,

2279
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:07,280
Speaker 1: one of the honest shot the box. So we gotta

2280
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 1: get you one over here. Let me tell you something.

2281
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about trade we got let finish.

2282
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's just well, I'm gonna mis talk, but

2283
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we just released the actual notorious big

2284
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 1: bump box that we just released the Lea one last week.

2285
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 1: You'll listen to me. Trade is the most resourceful person

2286
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 1: I've ever met. Like Trade is the person you call

2287
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 1: up on the phone at eight o'clock. Whatever you got

2288
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 1: you need is did by twelve. He don't play no

2289
02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:58,320
Speaker 1: games bump boxes. See, it's literally out your partfrom I

2290
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: called Trade on a holiday New Year's I called him,

2291
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 1: like the day before New Years and I said, I

2292
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 1: need my cousin is very sick and he needs what

2293
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 1: help for COVID. Two days later, no, no male moves

2294
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 1: on New Year's Day somehow Another the next day the

2295
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 1: person my cousin calls me like, I got this box

2296
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 1: of sea Mars. What else is in their black seed oil?

2297
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 1: A reaganal oil? This? Yeah, yeah, you know, And I

2298
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: just I've been spreading the lot as you gave me

2299
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:45,640
Speaker 1: that his resources whatever. He's so generous, like he's like

2300
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: a gentle giant, like you don't know, he hate that

2301
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 1: term with his family, Like he's lovable. But when it's

2302
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: somebody else need you know, we're on the front line.

2303
02:07:56,280 --> 02:08:00,360
Speaker 1: We're going to It's like me so when you when

2304
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,280
Speaker 1: you when you see somebody, what the fun is like?

2305
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:09,680
Speaker 1: What have you? There's no hospital. That was a rambo.

2306
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:14,600
Speaker 1: So when I got shot, um, I went to a

2307
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 1: hospital and they didn't. They didn't Before they could even

2308
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 1: get to it. You just see people running through the

2309
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 1: house panic and they like, what's going on? It's over

2310
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 1: a hundred niggas outside. You know what I'm saying, But

2311
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 1: you know that there to make sure I'm good. So

2312
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 1: at that point they try to shut the hospital down.

2313
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 1: They're more focus on that, and I'll never forget one

2314
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: of the people even ask If you look on the

2315
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: end of that, you'll find one. People ask me for

2316
02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 1: a picture. I'm looking at them like bit you asked

2317
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 1: me for a picture. I'm bleeding nothing back right now,

2318
02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I can tell he

2319
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: was there. They are heart broke. I let the man

2320
02:08:54,280 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: get the pictures. But little story short, I went home.

2321
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:09,160
Speaker 1: They put me our thoughts, but I went home here myself,

2322
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, just long story short, cleaning it up, you know,

2323
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 1: and stopping the bleeding. But the bullet was sitting stayed

2324
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 1: in my shoulder for like four or five years, and

2325
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 1: like it was to the point that it was almost

2326
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 1: bored and not but it never was cut. So I

2327
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,640
Speaker 1: mean it was never my skin was never cut. So

2328
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: at one point, probably close to the fifth year, I

2329
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 1: was waking up and it'll be blue and it's flat

2330
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 1: solidover my own I'm like, damn, and it's real tender.

2331
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:41,280
Speaker 1: So probably a day later it was a lot more blood.

2332
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: At this point, it's like I'm looking at it and

2333
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm one of the people, you know, I'm I'm gonna

2334
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 1: push it to the limit. So you know, I started

2335
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:52,160
Speaker 1: squeezing and you know, um blood was coming out, and

2336
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:54,360
Speaker 1: I go down to the I go on my bathroom.

2337
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm about to get this ship uphout

2338
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 1: of me. Caught my nephew down and then I missed

2339
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: the out. I'm telling them I'm gonna do he young man,

2340
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:05,640
Speaker 1: you gotta let me peel with this ship. Go go viral.

2341
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,800
Speaker 1: I get about no vil. I'm trying to figure this

2342
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 1: ship out. So I go to so I'm not even

2343
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:16,880
Speaker 1: paying attesting to him at this point. I'm just na's time,

2344
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't get this ship about it somethinghow away? Man?

2345
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:26,280
Speaker 1: That ship you can look at the video and oh yeah,

2346
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 1: he definitely yeah, he definitely feeled it, and yeah I

2347
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: did it. Still didn't go to the hospital. I just

2348
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 1: thought cleaning it the same way and stuffing there with

2349
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 1: guards and ship. You can't even really you can't see

2350
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 1: the stunt of the rights rambow ship you know who

2351
02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 1: back and then looking on that what did you put

2352
02:10:56,720 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: them touching on that? Mother? What you did that? You know?

2353
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: Soap for water man? Stuff it up and wrapping. Don't

2354
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:15,480
Speaker 1: cut ant of the quick time stuff. Let's see, uh,

2355
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa a rhapsody that's everybody man everything because at

2356
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 1: the end of like wraps, she's until freedom should be both?

2357
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 1: Just say both both, because Queen Latifa texted saying, how

2358
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:54,440
Speaker 1: can I help? You can't be mad at Listen said,

2359
02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:58,920
Speaker 1: though that's my system. Look we're sucking the whole clay

2360
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 1: we got we we answered, I was going to answer,

2361
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 1: yeah both. Next, all right, dead friends are publican public enemy? Probably?

2362
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean I would say public enemy just because I'm

2363
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:15,120
Speaker 1: more familiar with public enemy. Thinking of that. We just

2364
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 1: released the EPM D bump box too. Yea dead president.

2365
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone because by five o'clock today

2366
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 1: and it's almost five o'clock turning in stuff this book.

2367
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 1: He like to leak in my book on the way too.

2368
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:41,840
Speaker 1: So in my book, dj F shot out to dj

2369
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:47,080
Speaker 1: and he brought a bunch. He brought I always ever

2370
02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: called me. He brought about Spader's words. He brought both

2371
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 1: of them. But he was one of the first people

2372
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 1: by the spin, one of the first. He was like,

2373
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,200
Speaker 1: I didn't I was gonna bring it. I forgot because

2374
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 1: my two little kids have been crazy my book. I

2375
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:06,280
Speaker 1: know my rights. Hold on. Okay, shout out to mcbradness,

2376
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:11,280
Speaker 1: my guys public enemies for me. I love, I love Differnce,

2377
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: but but I need you present you already ones very fast.

2378
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: Want the time right real quick? Fine about Marco, Nope,

2379
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 1: damn it, damn Malcolm two bottoms, all right, respect a loyalty, respect,

2380
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:56,760
Speaker 1: respect many Yeah, and ladies. Nineties I was born born,

2381
02:13:57,200 --> 02:14:01,000
Speaker 1: but the music in the nineties and me, okay, eighties,

2382
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:07,560
Speaker 1: I like old I like seventies music. Bernie Bernie Phil Burn.

2383
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:18,360
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot at the Bernie. We have big chance.

2384
02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:23,080
Speaker 1: We have him said this'n all right, yeah, we got

2385
02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:28,160
Speaker 1: this is about it up Dr dre up Park that Dre. No, No,

2386
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 1: I can't say that we can want with both. I

2387
02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:37,360
Speaker 1: like both of them both from my but you have

2388
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:43,720
Speaker 1: to do you do. But Mr Lead came over the

2389
02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:47,840
Speaker 1: A five times. I'll say both. But just where we

2390
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:53,760
Speaker 1: come from. Dr Dre definitely, he said the toll for everything. Yeah,

2391
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting away from y'all trouble little my friends, and

2392
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 1: then we get of the last one. Shout out to

2393
02:15:01,720 --> 02:15:08,720
Speaker 1: my bros. Dza and Monty too. You know it's used

2394
02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 1: to to be on drinks. This is probably the hardest

2395
02:15:14,360 --> 02:15:23,120
Speaker 1: one right here. Okay, this is father. Let me tell

2396
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 1: you something though, this was not If Kamala Harris believes

2397
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 1: which I'm joking, Guys, that Michelle Obama it's her friend,

2398
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:37,480
Speaker 1: she's not. Let me tell you why. Let me tell

2399
02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:41,880
Speaker 1: you why because when you are young, you learned that

2400
02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:45,520
Speaker 1: you don't show up to nobody's birthday party dressed better

2401
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:51,640
Speaker 1: then the actual person who's having the part. If you

2402
02:15:51,880 --> 02:16:01,160
Speaker 1: saw how Michelle Obama shows, Listen to me, now, ship

2403
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:05,280
Speaker 1: is until freedom is right. We're gonna say this ship

2404
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 1: that every the politically correct pert you would have said, Hey,

2405
02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, everyone their things. I'm saying I'm not saying

2406
02:16:13,800 --> 02:16:15,880
Speaker 1: she did it on purpose. I'm saying you're supposed to

2407
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:18,520
Speaker 1: think about it beforehand, that when you're going up when

2408
02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:21,600
Speaker 1: you're young, you learned, don't upstage the bride, but you

2409
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:32,360
Speaker 1: don't when you stage, you're still upstage. But she staying

2410
02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:37,680
Speaker 1: that she was wearing pants in a sweater to this thing,

2411
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:40,640
Speaker 1: but you can't wear it wasn't even it's not even

2412
02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:44,240
Speaker 1: plumber whatever that ship was called wine. Okay, she was

2413
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:47,880
Speaker 1: so bad that hair curl that bounced that she had

2414
02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:50,840
Speaker 1: that she was supposed to tell them, you know what,

2415
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 1: this outfit is so bad. I need y'all sending this

2416
02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:58,440
Speaker 1: over there. The Kamala was their inauguration when it was

2417
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:05,880
Speaker 1: look but it was a different Michelle. You know, I

2418
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:14,840
Speaker 1: don't know. She has a certain level of glamour of

2419
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:24,240
Speaker 1: she has a level of of not just because when

2420
02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:26,960
Speaker 1: you look at the Johnny says, when you look at Michelle,

2421
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:32,520
Speaker 1: let me tell you what. That wasn't always the case.

2422
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:36,240
Speaker 1: When Michelle first got there. There was a process right

2423
02:17:36,560 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 1: there was they was going through shell Michelle this and

2424
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:42,600
Speaker 1: that Michelle grew like she transformed, She transformed, like she

2425
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:45,400
Speaker 1: grew into who she was, not saying that she did

2426
02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:48,520
Speaker 1: anything when she started to grow into her queendom, right

2427
02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 1: und she understand the role she had different conversations, started

2428
02:17:52,480 --> 02:17:54,160
Speaker 1: looking at herself and said, oh, this is what I

2429
02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:56,920
Speaker 1: need to do for me. And she has owned who

2430
02:17:57,040 --> 02:18:00,640
Speaker 1: she is, right, Kamala is going to get Oh yeah,

2431
02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:05,840
Speaker 1: she Ka has a badass body too, And people don't

2432
02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:10,840
Speaker 1: really know because let me tell you, let me tell

2433
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:14,880
Speaker 1: you what happens with especially lighter skin, lighter skin women,

2434
02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 1: especially with lighter skin women, but with black and brown

2435
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:26,200
Speaker 1: women in general. But they say something about and this

2436
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:32,080
Speaker 1: is a really important point with women who are incredibly intelligent,

2437
02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:37,880
Speaker 1: as Compla Harris is, oftentimes you don't want to put

2438
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:40,920
Speaker 1: on too much so that people focus more on your

2439
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:45,640
Speaker 1: beauty and less on your power. And so she you

2440
02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:48,600
Speaker 1: can see that she leans with the suits and everything

2441
02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:52,040
Speaker 1: that she does towards see me and respect me for

2442
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:54,720
Speaker 1: who I am and don't try to box me into

2443
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 1: just my fatilis. Michelle has figured out and Tomka Mallory

2444
02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:02,920
Speaker 1: is working at it day the balance of both and

2445
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:06,040
Speaker 1: so she she's bad ass, but doesn't look tell you

2446
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 1: what makes Michelle real badass? That man she walking with

2447
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:21,640
Speaker 1: that's a fine ass. Motherfucker. Okay, she w yeah, guess

2448
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,640
Speaker 1: what I fomish you And I don't know, of course,

2449
02:19:24,640 --> 02:19:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm just speculating that when Michelle, when he saw her

2450
02:19:28,160 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 1: come out when they was getting ready to leave to

2451
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:34,840
Speaker 1: go today, he said, that's what we're doing. We're gonna

2452
02:19:34,879 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 1: do all this right here forever. My sister on all

2453
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:48,760
Speaker 1: these shots because she living it be talking about. But

2454
02:19:53,040 --> 02:20:03,199
Speaker 1: I've been looking a little over to the YO girls.

2455
02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:06,640
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I never seen that.

2456
02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:13,640
Speaker 1: I can't see involved in that drink A little scary

2457
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:18,800
Speaker 1: stay inside. Me and my son are releasing February, so

2458
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:21,600
Speaker 1: make sure you I'll stay tuned to that. Everything until

2459
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 1: Freedom got going on. So what is that? Why don't

2460
02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:35,280
Speaker 1: you even think about doing the poetitions with something that

2461
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 1: nor like nord I ain't ben gonna lie to you, right.

2462
02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:41,280
Speaker 1: Norbody was one of the first people that was like, yo,

2463
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 1: you need to do a podcast. And that's when I

2464
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:47,600
Speaker 1: was doing so much other sho and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2465
02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 1: he like mice when you need to do pop let

2466
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:52,360
Speaker 1: me know tell me that. I'm like, all right, you

2467
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:53,760
Speaker 1: don't worry about to know what I'm doing. A bunch

2468
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:55,240
Speaker 1: of it. He's like, Mike, just tell me, I'm gonna

2469
02:20:55,240 --> 02:20:57,960
Speaker 1: do this and he yo. He was consistent, right, and

2470
02:20:58,280 --> 02:21:02,080
Speaker 1: and I wasn't so focused on it. But what happened

2471
02:21:02,200 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 1: was we started doing all this work, me Tamika and

2472
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:09,560
Speaker 1: our organizations and originally treat politicians. Was it was me,

2473
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:13,440
Speaker 1: Tamika and Carmen Perez who was with Justice League, and

2474
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:17,760
Speaker 1: we started doing it that way woman, you know, and

2475
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:19,280
Speaker 1: I was like, let's start it, and I was gonna

2476
02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:22,200
Speaker 1: reach out to you, right. So what happened was we

2477
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:24,960
Speaker 1: we started doing it a little bit, we fell off

2478
02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 1: from everybody in the podcast world, went crazy. You became

2479
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 1: the biggest giving a lot out of both became the

2480
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:37,280
Speaker 1: biggest thing in sucking podcast history. And I'm like damn.

2481
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:39,920
Speaker 1: And Tomka was like, okay, yeah, we sucked up. Like

2482
02:21:40,040 --> 02:21:43,280
Speaker 1: I told you, our podcasts supposed to start before Joe

2483
02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:47,480
Speaker 1: budden Ship started he started doing his uh everything went crazy.

2484
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:49,560
Speaker 1: We started, but at that time, we were doing a

2485
02:21:49,600 --> 02:21:52,520
Speaker 1: bunch of work, so we didn't we didn't get a

2486
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:55,440
Speaker 1: chance to do it. But when and this time that

2487
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 1: we had, like in the last year, I reached out

2488
02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:00,680
Speaker 1: time like we need to do this and Carmen had

2489
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:02,840
Speaker 1: moved to l A. She's supposed to be with us,

2490
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:04,680
Speaker 1: and we're like, yo, we're just gonna do it ourselves.

2491
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:07,960
Speaker 1: So we started doing this here. We started doing this,

2492
02:22:08,120 --> 02:22:11,200
Speaker 1: and then when she did her speech for George Floyd

2493
02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:15,320
Speaker 1: and when the biggest viral, they started realizing the leader

2494
02:22:15,400 --> 02:22:18,440
Speaker 1: that we all knew was there for years. You know.

2495
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:20,520
Speaker 1: I tell her all the time, like she's been the

2496
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:23,320
Speaker 1: biggest she's been out with leader. Everybody saying this, I

2497
02:22:23,480 --> 02:22:25,800
Speaker 1: leave them be Okay, I'm glad you're caught up because

2498
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:28,119
Speaker 1: I've been to this to the president exactly. She definitely

2499
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:32,520
Speaker 1: never gonna run. So we just just to make sure

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Speaker 1: that because you know what, I'm a hell raiser, that's

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Speaker 1: what we need. No but but no, no, no, that's

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02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 1: not true. So go to the next person that we

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02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:52,720
Speaker 1: need a nigga about running for resident. The thing about

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02:22:52,840 --> 02:22:56,160
Speaker 1: running for president or running for any office is that

2505
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:59,240
Speaker 1: you do have to compromise a lot, and we need

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02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:01,680
Speaker 1: that because they need people in office that can do that.

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02:23:02,120 --> 02:23:05,039
Speaker 1: But from my perspective, I've learned that I'm actually more

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02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:09,520
Speaker 1: effective being the person outside. That's a bit that people

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02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:11,800
Speaker 1: the fact that we can have can you like if

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02:23:11,879 --> 02:23:16,480
Speaker 1: he was like, you're not gonna have a like jay

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02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:19,080
Speaker 1: Z like jay Z. Jay Z was really interested and

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02:23:19,160 --> 02:23:23,640
Speaker 1: he wanted to run for California governor. I'm going for apartment.

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02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:31,920
Speaker 1: This is a vote for the Day Jay. I love

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02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:36,600
Speaker 1: Jay and he knows it and I love Jay. But however, however,

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02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:41,920
Speaker 1: even he it is not the nigger that you're talking about,

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02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:49,600
Speaker 1: but j for counsels. Can't run for shync queens. Problem

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02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 1: with Isaac is running for men trained up. That was

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02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,320
Speaker 1: the dude who did the bid, the guy who they

2519
02:23:58,440 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 1: made the whole TV your both right. He is running

2520
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:04,920
Speaker 1: like I'm about to try to endorse him a little bit.

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02:24:04,959 --> 02:24:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I got but fifty is best

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02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:12,320
Speaker 1: where he is telling black stories. But support day is

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02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 1: where it is best where he is because Rahapsody said

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02:24:14,680 --> 02:24:18,920
Speaker 1: on our show on Street Politicians, she supports him. No,

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02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:25,920
Speaker 1: it's not not not much the left next leader. We

2526
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 1: are crazy. And was out here. What are you talking about?

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02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 1: Andrew was out here. He just did a show the

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02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:39,840
Speaker 1: other day. He's out here. He's Andrew is Andrew. Everybody

2529
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:44,880
Speaker 1: got some ship. I'm not saying it. I don't know

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02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,560
Speaker 1: about that. But what I'm saying, is that, regardless of

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02:24:47,640 --> 02:24:50,520
Speaker 1: what his situation was or was not, if you pull

2532
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:53,480
Speaker 1: back the curtain on any of our lives, everybody suck up.

2533
02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Everybody got some ship, Everybody got some ship. And it's

2534
02:24:58,280 --> 02:25:01,600
Speaker 1: and it's disingenuous for us to act like his ship

2535
02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 1: is worse than our ship, because if you really look

2536
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:07,160
Speaker 1: at it, if you really look at our stuck, each

2537
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:10,240
Speaker 1: and every one of us has something that we're dealing

2538
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:12,480
Speaker 1: with that we're not telling the rest of the world.

2539
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 1: Everybody does. So Andrew gill him is a smart black man.

2540
02:25:16,840 --> 02:25:19,800
Speaker 1: By the way, if you if he can't stand up

2541
02:25:19,879 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 1: to Andrew gill him, if you put him alongside some

2542
02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:28,240
Speaker 1: of these white supremacists that's in office, why can't we

2543
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:30,720
Speaker 1: have him? I think it's this and I'm gonna tell

2544
02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:33,879
Speaker 1: you what it is to me, right, Russell, what about

2545
02:25:34,280 --> 02:25:40,800
Speaker 1: let me let me know for me, stand on what

2546
02:25:40,920 --> 02:25:44,160
Speaker 1: you're stand on, right, be who you are, like, that's

2547
02:25:44,200 --> 02:25:59,600
Speaker 1: who he is. It's the people saying whatever, but whatever,

2548
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:04,880
Speaker 1: black man. No, don't compare a white man to Andrew

2549
02:26:04,959 --> 02:26:11,360
Speaker 1: Guillen as a black man. Black people are not as exactly. No, no, no, no,

2550
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:16,240
Speaker 1: You're not gonna just no, no, Black people are not

2551
02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:20,040
Speaker 1: as accepting of the l g B t q I

2552
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:25,360
Speaker 1: A community period. So I think, is this listen to me?

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02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:27,400
Speaker 1: You know about so if you if you made a

2554
02:26:27,480 --> 02:26:31,680
Speaker 1: conscious decision right that you're willing to galvanize votes and

2555
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:36,000
Speaker 1: support based on who you not right now, that's what

2556
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:40,960
Speaker 1: that's what you Because ain't nobody voted for Andrew Guillen

2557
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:48,680
Speaker 1: or even sexuality issues based upon the sexual then why

2558
02:26:48,720 --> 02:26:57,200
Speaker 1: do you the situation? See the situation, the drugs situation. Now,

2559
02:26:57,280 --> 02:26:59,840
Speaker 1: I know niggros ain't about to start talking about no drugs.

2560
02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:02,600
Speaker 1: Iud sang he on this show and sold my truth

2561
02:27:02,959 --> 02:27:05,640
Speaker 1: about being addicted to drugs, So we're not even gonna

2562
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:08,320
Speaker 1: deal with the drugs. The issue is that he was

2563
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:12,080
Speaker 1: caught in a situation that looked like he was sleeping

2564
02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:16,200
Speaker 1: with men, and we as a community had to deal

2565
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 1: with the fact that our people been gay long time.

2566
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:23,480
Speaker 1: We didn't just get gay last week or when the

2567
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:26,240
Speaker 1: l g B t q I A community became popping

2568
02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 1: and they got their rights. We've been gay for a

2569
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:32,280
Speaker 1: long time. Okay, there was always Uncle so and so

2570
02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:36,320
Speaker 1: who was in the family that everybody knew was gay,

2571
02:27:36,680 --> 02:27:44,039
Speaker 1: But our communities did not allow for and we don't don't.

2572
02:27:45,560 --> 02:27:51,000
Speaker 1: We do not, We do not allow for that to

2573
02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:54,640
Speaker 1: be accepted the way in which it should. Because that's

2574
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:57,240
Speaker 1: and that's why our our young people kill each other

2575
02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:01,800
Speaker 1: or kill themselves. That's why black trans people being killed

2576
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:05,720
Speaker 1: is a thing, because people are afraid to be their

2577
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 1: true selves. So if we're gonna say what my fond

2578
02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 1: is saying, which I agree with, that be who you are,

2579
02:28:11,800 --> 02:28:16,520
Speaker 1: we also as a community space for people to be

2580
02:28:16,959 --> 02:28:18,879
Speaker 1: you are. I hate what you said. No, I don't

2581
02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:22,120
Speaker 1: have to see the thing? Is this right? If you

2582
02:28:22,480 --> 02:28:25,000
Speaker 1: if you are waiting for somebody except who you are

2583
02:28:25,160 --> 02:28:27,680
Speaker 1: instead of making them except who you are, that's your fault.

2584
02:28:27,879 --> 02:28:29,840
Speaker 1: That's true. Right, you have to impose. Look, this is

2585
02:28:29,879 --> 02:28:32,320
Speaker 1: who I am, Like I was in prison. Right, let's

2586
02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 1: say this last shot, wrapping up this, we go, This

2587
02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:45,640
Speaker 1: is over. We can't kick that as a matter of fact,

2588
02:28:45,680 --> 02:28:47,200
Speaker 1: so listen, we get kicked up. What I'm trying to

2589
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:50,560
Speaker 1: say is this, if you make a converious decision right

2590
02:28:51,000 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 1: of who you are, make people accept who you are,

2591
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:57,680
Speaker 1: don't wait for don't disagree, but I'm just saying that

2592
02:28:57,800 --> 02:29:03,200
Speaker 1: they have to be I known do it today. I

2593
02:29:03,240 --> 02:29:07,120
Speaker 1: didn't do it. It has to be a bound. If

2594
02:29:07,160 --> 02:29:15,720
Speaker 1: he's a leader, he should leave. I'm not disigreeing all.

2595
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:18,879
Speaker 1: I am stating so that two things can stand at

2596
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 1: the same time. My son statement and what you just

2597
02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:24,400
Speaker 1: said can stand, and we all agree with that. But

2598
02:29:24,520 --> 02:29:27,280
Speaker 1: what also has to be set in this space, and

2599
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 1: that also needs to stand, is that our people are

2600
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:34,200
Speaker 1: dealing with a fear of coming out with who we

2601
02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:38,720
Speaker 1: are because we are murdered for it, we are criticized

2602
02:29:38,840 --> 02:29:41,680
Speaker 1: for it, we're castigated for it, and we as a

2603
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:45,240
Speaker 1: community have to accept the fact that being gay, or

2604
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:47,880
Speaker 1: being a tree and trans, or being a part of

2605
02:29:48,040 --> 02:29:51,080
Speaker 1: the l g B t q I a community is

2606
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:53,720
Speaker 1: who we all. We always have had people that way

2607
02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:57,360
Speaker 1: and we just have never really truly accepted it. My

2608
02:29:57,560 --> 02:30:00,080
Speaker 1: thing is this, if that's who you are in you

2609
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:05,840
Speaker 1: you scared to lead in that, then you need to lead,

2610
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:09,120
Speaker 1: You need to touch people, be who you are and

2611
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:17,280
Speaker 1: telling your people we're not. What I'm saying is who

2612
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:22,240
Speaker 1: you are standing on what you're sitting on. When the

2613
02:30:22,360 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 1: leader ain't intelligent and in fact, he would have been

2614
02:30:25,800 --> 02:30:31,240
Speaker 1: the best to be governor, because guess what the alternative

2615
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:35,000
Speaker 1: is that a white supremacist became who wants who in

2616
02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:37,680
Speaker 1: my opinion, is okay with the fact that black people

2617
02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:40,160
Speaker 1: die every single day and they'll do shit about it.

2618
02:30:40,280 --> 02:30:56,879
Speaker 1: So I'd rather take Andrew Gillam anytime. Picture picture. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us for another episode of Drink Chance, hosten

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