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Speaker 1: We try to make it so that you understand what's

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Speaker 1: going on about your car. I've always talked to you

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Speaker 1: You know, good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. There's a

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Speaker 1: And to me, that's abuse. Moaning and groaning is abusive.

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Speaker 1: there's actually two fusible links. I would take a look

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Speaker 1: at both of them, because fusible links have been known

425
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Speaker 1: to fail or corrode internally, especially on an older vehicle,

426
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Speaker 1: and it wouldn't hurt while the vehicles running to go

427
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Speaker 1: over and start maybe gently and put a load on

428
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Speaker 1: the vehicle again, headlights on high beam the froster. Let's

429
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Speaker 1: let's get some heat flowing. Let's get some current flowing,

430
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Speaker 1: and maybe gently, you know, give a little bit of

431
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Speaker 1: a twist to the wiring harness, especially around the fusible links.

432
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Speaker 1: Can they take the abuse? Can they take the heat?

433
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: Can they take the twisted and turning? And see how

434
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Speaker 1: does the vehicle react? Does it react normally? Now you're

435
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: I have to get under the dashboard and find the

436
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: junction box where it feeds into the ignition switch and

437
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: put a voltmeter on it, or a bulb vaultmeter would

438
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: be nicer at least give you a spec bulb be

439
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: okay too, because you know it will be an applied load.

440
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: And here's a case where, even though it may not

441
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Speaker 1: necessarily be applied load, but the best of both worlds,

442
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Speaker 1: I would use my one side marker bulb trick. And

443
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Speaker 1: you know, as a matter of fact, years ago, this

444
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Speaker 1: was the classic example of the case where I learned

445
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Speaker 1: to use a one and I put a clear bulb

446
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Speaker 1: on the input side of the ignition switch and an

447
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Speaker 1: orange side marker bulb on the output and the car

448
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: had the same problem. It was a Chevy I'm gonna

449
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Speaker 1: say it was a Chevy venture a million years ago,

450
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Speaker 1: all right, And when the car died, as the customer

451
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: when it wouldn't start, which bulb was lit? And he

452
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: said the white one. I said, okay, so then I

453
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Speaker 1: know I've got power into the ignition switch. The orange

454
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Speaker 1: bulb didn't light. I know I've got a bad ignition switch.

455
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: It didn't make the contact jump across. So you've basically

456
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Speaker 1: got to do the same thing here. You've got to

457
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Speaker 1: seek a bulblit on both sides of the switch, and

458
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: that's a great way to test it. Last all we've

459
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Speaker 1: done is talk about hot right. We talked about power,

460
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: do you have voltage? We haven't really talked about ground.

461
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Speaker 1: And a lot of times ground can cause just the

462
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: problem you're discussing. Listen, the highest the highest point of

463
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Speaker 1: resistance in the circuit is what it's gonna cause that

464
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Speaker 1: electrical or electric electronic component to fail and not operate properly.

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Speaker 1: Clean all the chassis grounds or at the best load

466
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Speaker 1: the grounds. It wouldn't be the worst idea to take

467
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Speaker 1: something like a headlight bulb. A headlight bulb is great

468
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: depending upon the Armake model card came from the bulb itself,

469
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Speaker 1: the complete housing anywhere from seven to ten ams. You know,

470
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Speaker 1: if it's a high beam and so on, and when

471
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Speaker 1: one leg weren't right to a hot take the other leg,

472
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Speaker 1: run it to the grounds. Can you apply to the ground,

473
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Speaker 1: does the light light up? Does it have good current flow?

474
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Speaker 1: And start load testing the grounds that way, And that's

475
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Speaker 1: a cheap, inexpensive tool you can make yourself. Get down

476
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Speaker 1: to your local o'reillyota Parts telling you on an old

477
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: school six headlight bulb. They'll have the socket, they'll have

478
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Speaker 1: the connector. All right, o'reillyota Parts has all that stuff,

479
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: and you can then go ahead and start to load

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Speaker 1: test the circuit and verify how good or bad are

481
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Speaker 1: the grounds on something of this age, you're probably gonna

482
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Speaker 1: want and I know you're at the point where you've

483
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Speaker 1: rebuilt the entire air conditioning system. Um not necessarily on

484
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Speaker 1: a whim, but you did. You're going to want to

485
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Speaker 1: go through, take apart all the grounds, clean them and

486
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Speaker 1: put them back together. This is a step by step process.

487
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Speaker 1: This is not something easy to fix, especially if it's intermittent.

488
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Speaker 1: You're right in thinking new means never ever worked, and

489
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Speaker 1: new means you've got to take a real hard, careful

490
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Speaker 1: look at it. But by the same token, you've also

491
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: got to think beyond that. Once you test all these

492
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Speaker 1: things properly as best you can, you're gonna have to

493
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Speaker 1: think outside the box and say, hey, how do I

494
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: how do I test it, or how do I set

495
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Speaker 1: myself up to test it for when I'm ten miles

496
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Speaker 1: from the house or that my garage and I can't.

497
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's where the side marker bulbs come in.

498
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: That's the purpose of that. And then at that point

499
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Speaker 1: it comes down to is it wiring harness? Last thought.

500
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Speaker 1: More than a few times, I've had cases where fuse

501
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Speaker 1: boxes cause these type of particular problems and what you'll

502
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Speaker 1: need to do, And this is a gutsy move, but

503
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you get down to it, one by one,

504
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: you can go through a wiring diagram and look, is

505
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: it fused two, fuse three, six eleven? Look at the

506
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Speaker 1: power distribution fuses that are involved. You need to look

507
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Speaker 1: at a power distribution wiring harness and pull those fuses

508
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Speaker 1: out and look at them. You know, fuses do funny

509
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Speaker 1: things on older vehicles. I fixed more than a few

510
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: cars in my career. Whe'll where you'll find a black

511
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: burnt spot on the fuse. The current flow has been

512
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Speaker 1: going on for a long time. Here's a twenty year

513
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Speaker 1: old vehicle. Is the is or are the fuses burnt

514
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: on the contact point? And obviously take them out one

515
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: of the time, look at them put it back in.

516
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget the one time here on radio and

517
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Speaker 1: as many many years ago I made the faddler of

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Speaker 1: telling somebody we're checking for a draw and they pulled

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00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: every fuse out of the car. And then they called

520
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: me up the next week and said, now what do

521
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: I do? How do I know where they go? No? No,

522
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: one at a time. I still think about that. I

523
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: still think about that poor person sitting there with a

524
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: pile of fuses on the front seat of the car,

525
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: and my conversation. That's where I learned the phrase put

526
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Speaker 1: down the pliers and step away from the vehicle because

527
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: it's it's time to get it into a mechanic. Um.

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00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll never forget that, Michael. That should be

529
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: more than enough for you to go on. UM, I

530
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: realized it's hard for you to get to the phone

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Speaker 1: right now down there, Houston Way. We hope you guys

532
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Speaker 1: are all drawing. Okay, God bless and you guys take

533
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: good care and we wish Texas the best. I'm run

534
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Speaker 1: nating in the Car Doctor zero nine zero zero. I'll

535
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: be back right after this. Hey, welcome back the Car Doctor.

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00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Rolling along here at zero nine zero zero. Podcasting and

537
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: more information at Car Doctor show dot com. Let's do

538
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Speaker 1: an email from Thomas Ron. I've been a regular listener

539
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: of your show forever. Let me first state that the

540
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: in the late seventies, I have been a fan, or

541
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Speaker 1: since the first First, let me state that the it

542
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Let me first state that the late seventies.

543
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to say since the late seventies. Okay, Thomas,

544
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: I think you're excited and nervous right in this email.

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00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I've been a fan of buying extended warranties, whether I

546
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: buy a used car or a new car. The reason

547
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: I do that is if you can get the price

548
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: of the car down fifteen two thousand dollars, then there

549
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: is no better investment in the car itself. Well, that's

550
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: absolutely right, and you know two degree, maybe I wouldn't

551
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: have done it in the seventies as much. I think

552
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: the case is different now because of the electronics in

553
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: the car. And while the extended warranties are still fifteen

554
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: hundred dollars that they were so many years ago, you

555
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: can spend fifteen hundred dollars on half a component now.

556
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: It's just amazing how fast dollars add up on electric automobiles.

557
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: On cars that I bought this way, five of seven

558
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: needed repairs that were as much as or more than

559
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: the cost of the warranty. And second, as an accountant,

560
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of making double monthly payments

561
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: a four hundred dollar car payment and a five repair

562
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: for an A C unit. Also, I feel that leasing

563
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: a vehicle is only a good idea if you can

564
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: write a major part of the monthly lease payments, Like

565
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: if you're a salesman, in more than sevent you're driving

566
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: is in business. Off one exception, at least a new

567
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: settern just to see if I liked it, I did so,

568
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I negotiated a great buyout with the warranty. Of course,

569
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Speaker 1: you are what you say, priceless, tom Your thoughts are appreciated. Tommy.

570
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: You make all valid points, and I think, yeah, yeah,

571
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: to a degree, automobiles are about the numbers. It's it's

572
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: they've got to be it's a numbers decision. It can't

573
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: be emotional or it should be emotional. Unfortunately, you know,

574
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: that shiny red car gets our attention and it gets

575
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: us all wound up and gee whiz, what's wrong with baby?

576
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: And you know, but those days are it's it's hard

577
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: for those days to exist. Now. Um, it's costly for

578
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: those days to exist. And I think people like in general,

579
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: people in general like to live a little bit beyond

580
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: their means, probably quite a bit beyond their means. You know.

581
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about that woman I saw in the

582
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: review mirror driving the OUTI this morning, all dressed up

583
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, getting ready to go out, and she's out

584
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: and she's on the cell phone and she's got more

585
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: jeweler reasons Jon. Her sunglasses were hundred hundred and fifty dollars.

586
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: And you know, are we living beyond our means? Yeah?

587
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean what do we need

588
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: all that for? You know, at the end of the day,

589
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: you need a pair of pants, a shirt, and uh,

590
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: you need to have a little fun during the course

591
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: of the day, a good meal and go to bed up.

592
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: The next day, start all over again, and it's you know,

593
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we gotta go and our fun, but

594
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: we don't need to go crazy. And too many people

595
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: do that, and I think automobiles become a part of that.

596
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: I still agree, and I agree with you, Tom. I

597
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: think extended warranties are critical towards certain situations and automobiles

598
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: um at the very least. And this is something I've

599
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: never really touched on. It only occurred to me recently.

600
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: If you do get an extended warranty on a vehicle

601
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: and the car breaks and you have to take it

602
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: into a repair shop, wait for it. You're ready. This

603
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: is my stellar idea or thought for the day. You

604
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: actually get to try out of repair shop on somebody

605
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: else's dime, you're not paying for it, and you get

606
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: to see how well do they handle above and beyond.

607
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Because I've got to tell you, extended warranties are a

608
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: pain in the butt as the shop owner to deal

609
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: with it'll it'll take us anywhere from an hour to

610
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: an hour and fifteen minutes to process paperwork on an

611
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: extended warranty. You have to call up, you have to

612
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: get authorization, you have to list out all the part members.

613
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: You have to list out exactly what the complaint was.

614
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: You have to list out exactly what you have to

615
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: basically recite everything you recited to the customer, but to

616
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: the warranty company in far greater detail, and it becomes

617
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: a giant waste of time to a degree or a

618
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: big chunk of the day. So, um, a shop that

619
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: can handle an extended warranty and repair the card properly.

620
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: You know what you're finding out on somebody else's nickel,

621
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: just how good or bad that repair shop is. Appreciate

622
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the thoughts, Tom and um. You know I I love

623
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Speaker 1: getting letters like this. Send me one of yours. Send

624
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: me an email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com

625
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: and I'll be sure to read it up here on

626
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: there if I think it's timely and interesting for everyone

627
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: else's concern. N zero The Car Doctors coming back, don't

628
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: go away, Welcome back right on any of the car

629
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Speaker 1: docorate zero zero. We're now at that portion in the program, folks,

630
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: where well it's that time again. Um. You know this

631
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: is the beginning of the NFL season, and we know

632
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow the Giants play the Jets are gonna show up.

633
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: But the Giants are definitely gonna play, and I just

634
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: want to take the two most faithful Giants fans in

635
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: the universe and explain to them what's gonna happen tomorrow night.

636
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Are you guys ready, Yes, we know it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a win, but knowing you you're gonna go against the

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Speaker 1: Green and said, we're gonna lose exactly because you know

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Speaker 1: we always win against Dallas. It's it's gonna be a win.

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Speaker 1: But i gotta tell you what the what the the

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Speaker 1: Great Oz has seen in his meditations of the Upper

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Speaker 1: Stratosphere is the Giants will lose twenty four to twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That's the prediction one point. It's gonna be a heartbreaker.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be that close. So that's I'm just letting

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Speaker 1: you guys know. So next week you don't come in

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Speaker 1: here dragon your tails and all upset. And you know

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Speaker 1: I'm a New York fan, but I just want to

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Speaker 1: let you know that I've already seen the fix. I've

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Speaker 1: I've used my car doctor powers and and resourcefulness for

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Speaker 1: the other side, and I'm able to see that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna to be that type of a game down

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Speaker 1: to one point. It's gonna be a late game too, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sunday night game. So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: and it should be good and we will be celebrating

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Speaker 1: Monday morning. Um, why are you guys are gonna switch

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Speaker 1: over to Dallas? You're an idiot? Well I could be Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'll be nice. I'm just letting you know what could happen. Um.

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Speaker 1: We do this every year for those of you that

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Speaker 1: are new listeners, you know, and I've got to tell you.

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Speaker 1: By going against the giants, they usually do win. So

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the deal. As we as we try

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Speaker 1: to help the true and we threatened Ron every time

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Speaker 1: he says, jeez, you're gonna win tomorrow because we know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, right exactly. It's it's there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things I can do when it comes to fixing cars,

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Speaker 1: sports and not so much so a man has to

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Speaker 1: know as limitations. As I like to say. It's like

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Speaker 1: people say to me, why don't you mow the lawn

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Speaker 1: because I probably fall off the tractor hurt myself. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know it's Frankly don't at the time. But that's

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Speaker 1: the horse of another color. That's a different story altogether

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Speaker 1: so well, A great hour. Always good to sit here

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Speaker 1: and talk automobiles and explain to you what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated the emails. If you've got an email question,

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Speaker 1: you want to get it right up here on air

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Speaker 1: Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. Until the next time,

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Speaker 1: I'm Ron, an Indian, the Car Doctor, reminding you the

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you