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Speaker 1: What's Up Tribe.

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Speaker 2: I'm Erica and I'm Mila, and this is Good.

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Speaker 1: Mom's Bad Choices Podcast Beach season two.

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Speaker 2: If you joined us for season one, you got three

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Speaker 2: hundred uncensored episodes.

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Speaker 1: But things are a little different in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Not only are we.

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Speaker 3: Having new guests, new segments, but we're going outside, y'all.

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Speaker 3: We're getting out of our studio and podcasting in the wild,

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Speaker 3: So make sure you check us out on YouTube to

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Speaker 3: see where we're headed next.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is for all the good moms, all the

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Speaker 2: good dads, and even y'all hain't got no kids.

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Speaker 1: Pull up. Join us in season two.

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Speaker 2: As we deep dive into even more uncensored topics like love, sex.

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Speaker 3: Dating, and just look at this as the ultimate group chat.

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Speaker 3: All the shit you're afraid to say out loud or

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Speaker 3: even try, We say it and do it for you.

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Speaker 1: Because nothing's off limits here. This is a.

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Speaker 3: Judgment free zone to show up exactly as you are.

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Speaker 3: And let's be honest, we've all made a few bad choices,

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Speaker 3: so sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. We've just

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Speaker 3: been a juicy six years, bitch, six motherfucking years.

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Speaker 2: I mean Honestly, we have lived very juicy lives in

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Speaker 2: the last six years. I am in awe of the

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Speaker 2: experiences that we've cultivated and that we've I was just

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Speaker 2: taking a brief little stroll down memory lane and honestly

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Speaker 2: to like seventeen different celibacy packs.

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Speaker 1: We promises not fu yeah, dick toxing. We have done

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Speaker 1: that a lot. I think it served us. It has

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Speaker 1: served us.

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Speaker 2: You can through like traumatizing shit, you know, pregnancies, abortions, relationships,

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Speaker 2: evil men, new businesses.

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Speaker 3: Travel, travel, heartbreak, disappointment, repeating mistakes, repeating a lot of

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Speaker 3: mistakes against a lot of bad choices, a lot of

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Speaker 3: good choices that didn't look like good choices at first.

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Speaker 1: They looked like bad choices. It ultimately became good choices.

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Speaker 1: Some of my legal substances depending on what stature.

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Speaker 3: And you know, this is the most committed relationship I've

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Speaker 3: ever been in.

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Speaker 1: This is the.

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Speaker 2: Most committed relationship I've ever been in. This is the

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Speaker 2: most shared bank accounts I've ever had with anyone.

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Speaker 3: I don't share bank accounts with anyone else, but you either,

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Speaker 3: what the fuck, Orlando, You've got to open up a

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Speaker 3: ban account of Orlando at this point, I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm scared only me and Eric. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Penis doesn't fake accounts, don't go together.

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Speaker 3: You know. I just think that's I think that might

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Speaker 3: be true. I actually think that's true. I think penises

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Speaker 3: think that's true.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, Goddess experiences, world travels. Coachella's

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Speaker 2: just a lot of weird shit, a lot of virtue,

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Speaker 2: a lot of tears, a lot of deep pegs, and

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Speaker 2: and thank God for it.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of women think a lot of

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Speaker 2: is and that's where the happily ever after is. But

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Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you that when the pussies meet up,

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Speaker 2: it goes crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, not like in.

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Speaker 2: A scissoring type of way, just like a sisterhood, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like just cultivating their energy and being clear about

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Speaker 2: their manifestations, it goes crazy. So you are my soulmate,

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Speaker 2: and I'm very proud that I've met you in this

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Speaker 2: lifetime at the very right time, at the very perfect coordinations.

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Speaker 2: You know, Eric and I grew up down the street

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Speaker 1: Yeah until twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's when it needed to happen, and God

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Speaker 3: I was going back and listening to our first episode

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Speaker 3: called sex Apps and Kids. If you haven't ever listened

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Speaker 3: and journey back to episode wine, I want to encourage

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Speaker 3: We were just kind of winging it and just wanting

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Speaker 3: we need to like reintroduce ourselves now as women, Like

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Speaker 1: So, Jamila Mapp, Mela Map, why are you darling?

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Speaker 2: You know, in this era of good moms, I have

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Speaker 2: taken on the full identity of Mela Map, which is

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Speaker 2: just a small portion of Jamala Mapp. Same, same, but different.

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Speaker 2: But I'm Jamila Matt Mela Map. I'm author. I'm a

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Speaker 2: mother of a nine year old who was three when

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Speaker 2: adult with no training wheels. I'm an expert podcaster. I'm

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Speaker 2: a sexologist and tantric practitioner. I'm a healer and a

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Speaker 1: I'm a.

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Speaker 2: Merch design I'm a clothing designer. Goddammit, let me just

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Speaker 2: be clear.

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Speaker 1: Merchant, I have a pair, I'm apparel. I have a

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Speaker 1: parel line. If you just go to a good MoMA's

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Speaker 1: bad Choices. I am a woman committed to.

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Speaker 2: Growth and to evolution, into self awareness and to friendship

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Speaker 2: and to like just true community and being honest about

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Speaker 1: Amen, Yes you are. I'm a woman.

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Speaker 2: I'm a wife to be. I'm learning to be a

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Speaker 2: better wife, a better friend. So yeah, this chapter is

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Speaker 2: much different than it started.

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Speaker 1: I'm Erica. I am a mom of a nine year old,

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Speaker 1: which is wild.

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Speaker 3: I am silly, I am goofy, I am quiet, I

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Speaker 1: I am a reiki healer.

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Speaker 3: I am an amazing partner, amazing business partner.

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Speaker 1: I'm a creator. I am a rapid, rapid, rapid manifestor.

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Speaker 3: I am someone who when I have an idea, I

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Speaker 3: lot of ideas that I did not complete. And this

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Speaker 3: in my ideas and knowing that there's nothing I cannot do,

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Speaker 3: And I'm also someone working through through things still, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm working through feeling a hundred percent confident in who

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Speaker 3: who's committed to.

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Speaker 3: I am committed to choosing what m my nervous system

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Speaker 1: I feel like good. Mom's has been the.

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Speaker 3: sex goddess, the tantric sex goddess, even though I'm not

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Speaker 3: type of shit I was doing, God damn, you would

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Speaker 3: be fucking jealous.

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Speaker 1: Last night was amazing. Baby, I'm a sacred home and yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's me.

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Speaker 2: A very good friend of ours is about to interview

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Speaker 2: us finally, because we're fucking sick of interviewing each other.

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Speaker 4: So what's up?

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Speaker 5: Everybody's van Lathan. If you don't know who I am,

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Speaker 5: I don't care about you either. I am the platonic

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Speaker 5: male girlfriend of the Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast, and

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Speaker 5: I'm here with my girlfriend's takiki and have a great

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Speaker 5: time as we celebrate their six year anniversary. To my left,

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Speaker 5: Jamila Map, to my right, Erica Dickerson, thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for having me, ladies, and thank you so much

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Speaker 5: for being here. Everything that you do your podcast, I

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Speaker 5: this podcast. And I tell people this all the time,

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Speaker 5: cause y'all kind of started off as the little engine

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Speaker 4: Y'all were scrappy, I'm serious.

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Speaker 5: And we're able to get up to a point to

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Speaker 4: They they did it.

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Speaker 5: They fucking made and you got to be very very

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Speaker 4: So I'm happy to be here and happy to see

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Speaker 1: Successful than to hang out with us.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't use the cold word lightly.

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Speaker 5: But when people start traveling to other countries and particularly countries,

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Speaker 5: you know, areas where things have happened, I mean, oh,

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Speaker 4: And also I asked to come and y'all told me

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Speaker 4: I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Come because it's a woman's retreat, them sexist. And what

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Speaker 5: I mean just stuff happens all over in different places

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Speaker 5: But I want to ask you guys something. You guys

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Speaker 5: in so many different ways. What have you learned about

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Speaker 5: each other in six years doing the podcast that AU didn't.

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Speaker 4: Know and B you didn't like.

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Speaker 1: You have warned that damn this is your idea? What

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you why I asked you that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, because a lot of times, what we tend to

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Speaker 5: do with relationships is, in my opinion, any type of relationships,

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Speaker 5: we pay attention to how you fork somebody makes you feel.

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Speaker 4: And one of the.

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Speaker 5: Coldest things my dad ever told me was that you know,

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Speaker 5: you fall out of love with people, and that's when

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Speaker 5: the bond and the structure of what you built is

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Speaker 4: Spite of like how our personalities might not match up.

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Speaker 1: Fun?

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Speaker 3: I had no hopes, like genuinely, like I didn't even

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Speaker 4: What about you, When did you hope that the podcast?

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Speaker 2: I really think I just needed a friend who wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I honestly, she could have asked me to do anything,

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Speaker 5: What has it become that was unexpected? What's what?

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Speaker 4: What? So in your wildest dreams? Because think about it now,

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Speaker 4: it's not even.

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Speaker 5: Like just the podcast, Like you guys have the tribe,

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Speaker 4: Guys. It's more than that.

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Speaker 5: Was it was, is what it is now?

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Speaker 3: a camera crew sitting with you, Van who we slid

443
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: into your fucking d MS. And actually I went back

444
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: and looked at the message that we set in you.

445
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: This disrespectful, aast message with me and Jamila in lingerie.

446
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: This is how we bade advantage.

447
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: And I need a band to see this. I really

448
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: want him.

449
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: I remember the message very well.

450
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: The picture right, can you please?

451
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: I screen recorded it because I'm I'm just gonna put.

452
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: This, I'm read it to you.

453
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, Van, we love your outlook and your podcasts

454
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: and we want to collaborate on an episode if you're available.

455
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: We're also in LA and we're interested, and if you're interested,

456
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: let us know when you're available. As I'm sure our

457
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 2: listeners would appreciate some male perspective.

458
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: Our topics range from.

459
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: Shit are for mom, shit, sex, dating, and current events.

460
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: We recorded the crib in the valley and only take

461
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: two hours of your times to my house.

462
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: We can also come to you if that's more convenient.

463
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: Look forward to hearing from you. Okay. So that was

464
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: like two days. Okay. So two days later he wait,

465
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: it was twenty eighteen.

466
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 4: Okay.

467
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: He didn't respond. So then I said, then he's no,

468
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: he's He didn't respond. He said, then let's fucking do it.

469
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: I dare you all caps?

470
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: And I said, let's fucking do it, Van, When are

471
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: you available? He didn't say shit for two days? So

472
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: me and Erica pondered deeply on this. How are we gonna

473
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: get and respond?

474
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: And now we know we know what niggas want. So

475
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: we had just taken like a sexy shoot. We said

476
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: send him this and I said, are you sure? She

477
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: said he, I said, send him, send the shot.

478
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 2: Sending the titty shot. It's really Ericos citty is. They

479
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: were new at the time. I just bought them as

480
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: any But this is the most epic part of the

481
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: titty shot. The epic titty shot is with this, don't

482
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: be a pussy now we don't bite.

483
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: What was my response?

484
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: We said, a perfectly stranger titty pictures and told them

485
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: not to be.

486
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: But what was my response?

487
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: He said, like what you?

488
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: Why are we doing it? Like?

489
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: You know what?

490
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: The funny thing is. The funny thing is is like

491
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 5: I do. I'm the type of person people reach out

492
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 5: like Van Van Van out some podcasts, small podcasts, Olpaso, Texas.

493
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 5: All we talk about is movies, movies, movies. We published

494
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 5: at one am every third month. Blah blah blah. Would

495
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: you come on.

496
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 4: And talk about heat with us?

497
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't do it?

498
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you fucking serious?

499
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.

500
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: I'll come talk.

501
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 5: I like, yeah, if I have nothing else to do,

502
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: I'm cool, I'll come talk to you. But then when

503
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 5: I started looking at it, the podcast was so new,

504
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 5: I didn't really have a good friend of reference as

505
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 5: to what the conversation was gonna be. Then I remembered something, What.

506
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: Did you remember man, that I covered Erica?

507
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: You covered me?

508
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 4: Yep? What on TMZ.

509
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 5: With the baby daddy, with the whole her father being

510
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 5: one of the greatest athletes of all time type of

511
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: situations which.

512
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: I still fun out about.

513
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 5: Yeah I do. I forgot about it all the time.

514
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 5: It makes her feel weird, you know, but uh, it's

515
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 5: just weird.

516
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: You don't like to make people feel weird.

517
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: I love that. It's one of my favorite things. Oh,

518
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: I know who this is? Okay? And then I thought,

519
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: maybe I can do.

520
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 5: It.

521
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: All comes to light thought, maybe I.

522
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: Get to meet m U.

523
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: He was waiting for you know what, I'm maybe I

524
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 3: get to me there six years later.

525
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: We might be able to get you that. You know what,

526
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: Thanks Dad, you I've actually met him since then? You

527
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: knew why? Because what the he probably would have gotten

528
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: better with him? Yeah, his favorite daughter. So after he

529
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: said don't be a pussy, that was me. I said

530
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: to tell Jimmy. I told Jamila, we needed to tell

531
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: a man to not be a pussy. She also said

532
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: let's send this picture. And I said are you sure?

533
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: And she said yeah, and then he said I said

534
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: laugh aloud.

535
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: Because I knew you would stop stalling and reply was

536
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: either acid titties or talk crazy. One or the other

537
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: would catch your attention. So what are you available? He said,

538
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm not interested now, thank you, And then we freaked

539
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: out that.

540
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: We were like, oh my god.

541
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: I was like, we need to man, Oh no, this

542
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: is fucking terrible idea.

543
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: And then he said. Then we said I'm joking. No, wait,

544
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: it's not It's not just we're joking. Wait, why is

545
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: this not going anyway? It said something like We're so sorry.

546
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: That was a bit aggressive, and I was fucking with y'all.

547
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Said forgive me. We're just too nice girls, nice nice.

548
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: I was fucking with y'all, like everybody, if we can suck,

549
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: everybody can fuck.

550
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 5: I was fuck would I not? I don't want to

551
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 5: do it now I was gonna do it, but now now.

552
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: We're just two nice moms. Anyway, Van came over to

553
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: my house one week later, came over there, we.

554
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 5: Hung out, had a good time, and I was like, oh, man,

555
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 5: like leaving the house Like then I knew that.

556
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: You guys would have a successful podcast.

557
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 5: Totally unhinged, but the very direct point of view and

558
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: a point of view that, if we're being honest, like

559
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 5: resonated with me because of my relationship with my mother.

560
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 5: My mom is an incredibly free spear. I remember one time,

561
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 5: uh like, I bring a girl over my mother at

562
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: my grandmother's house. I told you all this story before,

563
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: and my mom goes, so I found a pair of

564
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: pennies in my son's room. I know that they're yours.

565
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: So you guys are fucking that's fine with me? Is

566
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 5: he pleasing you because I didn't raise anyone?

567
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: She said the girl.

568
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: I have been having some margarita's, and so my mother's think.

569
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: So the reason why I like to.

570
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: Make uncomfortable, it's because that's what she likes to do.

571
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 5: So I had already wondered. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna

572
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: tell you. You're in here with two Southern women. Now

573
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 5: when you get in here, they're gonna try you. Don't

574
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 5: show weakness. Like whatever happens. Laugh, it's a joke.

575
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: It's the fun. I'm like, don't show weakness, just go

576
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: along with it. They joke with you.

577
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: Throw a joke back you can't shock them. It's impossible.

578
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: You can't shock them.

579
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Did she did she?

580
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: They fucking got her because my mom. This just happened

581
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: like my.

582
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: Mom had went in my room and she had, you know,

583
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: picked some stuff up. I remember I looked on my

584
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: bed and there was a pair of underwear that were

585
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: folded in the middle of the bed. And then she

586
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 5: never brought it up because I used to have this

587
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: last thing I said about myself, I used to have this,

588
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: this trick that I would do.

589
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: This is the trick.

590
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 5: We had a fairly big house in Zachary. My parents

591
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 5: room was over here and my room was over here,

592
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 5: to separate ends of the house. So I have you

593
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: come over to the crib and uh, you would stay

594
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: the night, and then at like ten thirty eleven o'clock

595
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: in the morning, you go out the window, you walk

596
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 5: around to the front of the house, and you knock

597
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 5: on the door like it's van home.

598
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: Oh okay, we just saw you here last night. Boom.

599
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: And then that's how we would have our little overnight situations.

600
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: I'm like seventeen eighteen whatever was smart man, smart man,

601
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: and I got sloppy and then Mom put her on

602
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: blast and that's it.

603
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: If I say, I'll have to say that, so liberated

604
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: women don't I don't think intimidate me in the same

605
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: way they might intilidate.

606
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: So basically you're saying we're the right man to set

607
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: the titty pictures too.

608
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not gonna I'm not gonna be like, oh Michael, Like, nah,

609
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: not at all.

610
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: And also I knew it.

611
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: My intuition is spot on even then, I'm gonna be honest.

612
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever done that ever. Again, we did.

613
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: It was any one We contemplated like should we pull

614
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: out the move and we're like, non.

615
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: Think about what's a think about that? Like that can't

616
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: go left?

617
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I could have went way left. I thought

618
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: it went left. I was like, oh god, my intuition's

619
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: fucked out. I looked at it. I was like, this

620
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: is bold as fun, but you know what, the good Lord.

621
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: And we, honestly, we came in on the tail end

622
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: of the podcast rising like we were like the last

623
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: like last of the podcast went crazy before everybody even

624
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: ordered a microphone online. We were like the last ones

625
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: who's like, let's just do it, and like, thank god

626
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: we did because we have.

627
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: We have like no network.

628
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: We call it bootstrapping. We bootstrapped our podcasts and it's

629
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: been quite a ride. But I'm I'm eternally grateful that

630
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: you took a chance on two bitches from the Valley

631
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: that sent you titty picks.

632
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: And then I saw everybody started doing it. Everybody was

633
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: popping up.

634
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know a lot of great guests, so

635
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 5: I felt like I was in on the ground floor.

636
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, guys, this the podcast boom. You

637
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: came in on the tail end of it. What do

638
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: you see with it? Like, how what do you see

639
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 5: about particularly the female lip podcasts that are out now?

640
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: Podcasts period? How has it changed? Because six years to

641
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: grind is a long long time, particularly if you're.

642
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: Not monetized early. So you guys have stuck it out.

643
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: What do y'all think about the state of podcasting and

644
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: the state of female way of podcasting?

645
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Now? I'm sick of it. I'm I'm tired.

646
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: I do not want to see one more nigga or

647
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: bitch with the fucking shore mic at all. I am

648
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: over it. I I like for a long time when

649
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: people say what did you what do you do? I

650
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: would I would laugh when I say it out a

651
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: podcast because it was kind of a joke and not

652
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: because I feel like what we did was a joke.

653
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: But I just like the like the industry is like

654
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: whack just because anyone can do it, and then you

655
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: go like they talk about the most a lot of

656
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: people talking about mundane, stupid ass shit, especially like against

657
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: I guess in our community there's so many.

658
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: Like sex wars, just dumb shit. But I'm grateful we

659
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: did it and we started when we did.

660
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: But I also am just like I want people to

661
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: be more creative, and I want there to be like

662
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: some kind of test or vetting system.

663
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: So that we want people have to get a podcast license.

664
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you want people to go down to the podcast

665
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: DMV and Wayne Line.

666
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: And I'm going to be Simon.

667
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I need to be the one because I'm I everybody

668
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: don't want to hear what everybody has to say.

669
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: I think that I appreciate the landscape only because I

670
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: realize that only the strong survive and that there's been.

671
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: A lot of podcasts throughout the years that have that

672
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: have started.

673
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: And have even copied our format in ways and have

674
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: tried to, you know, be be the Erica to the Jamila,

675
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: But you can't fake authenticity, Like how me and Mila

676
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: started was completely authentic, Like there was no setup, there

677
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: was no like, Hey, these are two personalities, let's put

678
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: them together. Hey, these girls are best friends in real life,

679
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: so they should be their best friend.

680
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: Love is going to rap through the podcast.

681
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: Frequencies, and you've seen how it hasn't done that, and

682
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: you see how people realize that podcasting is a long game.

683
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: And people think.

684
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: They come into podcasting and they're going to make a

685
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: million dollars in their first season, and that's just not

686
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: how it works.

687
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: And I think I'm.

688
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: Excited for more people who understand that concept to come through.

689
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: And I think there are some really cool podcasts that

690
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: are out right now, but overall, I think that just

691
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: like every industry, it basically gets I don't know, this

692
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: is not a this is not a great word because

693
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: I can't find one right now, but raped, and I

694
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: feel like it's the podcast. The podcast space is oversaturated

695
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: with people that just want to talk and have real

696
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: no they really don't have a perspective, They have no

697
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: I guess, real backbone on what it is that they

698
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: believe in. And you know, even me and Nila. Like

699
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: we've always said that, like we're not experts and shit,

700
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: and that we might change our mind next year. And

701
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: I think that's actually been our saving grace is because

702
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: a lot of these podcasts claim to be experts in everything,

703
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: and that's what I'm tired of.

704
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: That's why we're sitting here.

705
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: Right now in this bar, because I am so fucking

706
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: tired of seeing shore mics and people sitting in podcast

707
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: studios talking like can we get back to real life?

708
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: Can we have conversations with our friends and get drunk

709
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: after not drinking tequila for two months.

710
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: There's like a level of like perfectionism.

711
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: I feel like people come to podcasts to relate, but

712
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: if you come to podcasting trying to relate to everyone,

713
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: you will not. And I think like the gift that

714
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: we got is that, like we really didn't have an

715
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: expectation and we really didn't give a fuck.

716
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: We had zero fucks to give.

717
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: We were like single moms, we'd just broken up with

718
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 2: long term relationships and we're like.

719
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: This isn't bitch. We might be wrong, we might.

720
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: Be right, but like we have this beautiful gift, like

721
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: the honesty and the gift of detachment. In the last

722
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: six years, I've learned to let you go. I might

723
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: have sound dumb on episode four and four hundred and

724
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: forty five and four fifty six and like a lot

725
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: of them, but I don't give a fuck because I'm

726
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: learning and I'm evolving, and like, I probably said the

727
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: wrong thing, and I probably don't feel the same way,

728
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: and I probably said some shit. I mean, you know, yeah,

729
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: I thought about this in the book about like the

730
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: first thing that you learned about me when we mad

731
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: in human when we went to dinner was that I

732
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: had like slept with someone for some money who just

733
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: got out of prison. That's not something ideally anyone would

734
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: put out onto the.

735
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 6: World and say, like, listen to my story.

736
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: Listen to my story. It's very important. One time I

737
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: accepted one thousand.

738
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: Dollars, but it was the truth, and I didn't have

739
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: an attachment for whether or not someone was gonna love

740
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: or accept me because of it, or if I was

741
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: going to continue to be worthy after people knew.

742
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people do shit.

743
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: A lot of people are not willing to tell people

744
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: the things that they do in fear of being judged.

745
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: And in this process, because we didn't think anyone was listening,

746
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: And because we've really had zero fucks to give, we

747
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: released the expectation to please everyone, including our parents and

748
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: friends and peers. And I think a lot of people

749
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: come into podcasting thinking we're going to be number one,

750
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: so many people are going to listen to us. And

751
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: with that in mind, you're going to have to You're

752
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: going to feel the level of pressure that it feels

753
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: if a thousands of people listen to.

754
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: Your deepest secrets. But we didn't have that, and we

755
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: didn't care and so and I think we still we've

756
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: been able to keep that. Yeah, we've been able to

757
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: keep that.

758
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 4: So what have you guys learned from your audience?

759
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 5: Because you have this vibrant community of women and men

760
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: who almost deify you, guys as experience in a real way,

761
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: it's very religious.

762
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: Like, what have you guys learned from make me? I'm

763
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: saying what what? What? What have you guys learned from

764
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: your audience in this six years?

765
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 5: Hm?

766
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: What have I learned from my auntor?

767
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've learned that there's a lot of

768
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: women like me, and I've also there's a lot of

769
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: women that are not like me that just want to

770
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: hear stories. I've learned that there's a lot of women

771
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: that need friends. I've learned that there's a lot of

772
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: men that need guidance and need to listen to women

773
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: and are open to listening to women, which was surprising

774
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: to me because at the beginning of our show, I

775
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: was really like, men, don't listen to shit fuck niggas.

776
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm over them. I'm going to fuck them and dispose

777
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: of them, just like they do to us. That was

778
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: really kind of like my vibe and I I've learned

779
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of men that really want to

780
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: understand women's perspectives.

781
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: And I have learned that.

782
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: Regardless of whether you're black, whatever it is, so many

783
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: of our experiences are just universal. Yes, there are specific

784
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: there are experiences specific to being a black woman or

785
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: a brown woman in America or wherever the fuck you are.

786
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: But ultimately, what I've also learned is that like motherhood

787
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: and this experience of womanhood, really there's a blur between

788
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: color lines and a lot of my experiences and the

789
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: things I've learned, I've learned from black women, I've learned

790
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: from white women, and it's really opened up my mind

791
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: and my heart to listening to other people's perspectives, because

792
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: at first I would be like, I don't really give

793
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: a fuck about this.

794
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: White bitchess, so I really don't occur.

795
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: And shout out to our white followers love you'.

796
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: It's opened up my heart.

797
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: Really, I've learned to be so much more patient with

798
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: women because of the tribe. And really the biggest moment

799
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: of learning in that was when I started meeting the

800
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 3: women in person. Like it's one thing to like talk

801
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: to an empty room and DM, but when me and

802
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: me started to have like community meetups and when we

803
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: started to really when we started do the retreats. That

804
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: was really when I was sitting in circles with women

805
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 3: that were like and any other circumstance, I would curse

806
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: you the fuck out m and any other circumstance, I

807
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: would not give you grace, you would not be my

808
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: friend in real life, and then you're in the jungle

809
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: in another country and you're like, Okay, well.

810
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: We're here, so let's figure this out.

811
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: It has given me this new, I guess perspective on

812
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: how much women just really need grace and even men,

813
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: how men need grace, and how I've opened up my

814
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: heart to both men and women in a way that

815
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: I before I didn't really think I could or would.

816
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 4: Wow.

817
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I think women have been domesticated to a place of

818
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: a fraction of themselves. I've learned that and shame have

819
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: reduced a lot of women to just being a small

820
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: percentage of who they actually are. I've seen women forget

821
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: the basic shit like, hey, bitch, do what you want,

822
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: what brings you joy, what brings you happiness, Go skinny, dip,

823
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: do a fucking cartwheel, and it's simple fucking shit, Like

824
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: you're not a bad mom if you want to take

825
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: a fucking vacation, Like it's.

826
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: Very minimal, small shit.

827
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: But I realized that like Erica and I, living out loud,

828
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: like quite literally out loud has been liberating for women,

829
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's not that big of a deal,

830
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: and for other people it is like no matter where

831
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: you live or what, like, the people in society that

832
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: you exist in tell women to be small and to

833
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: be one sided in one way, and we're multifaceted ass

834
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: women like I'm sexy, I'm a whore, I'm a slut,

835
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: and I'm also like a home and I'm fucking baking

836
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: cookies and I'm bike riding and I'm taking my kid

837
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: to tutoring, and you can do that too, And I

838
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: just I just realized that like women, genuinely society, men

839
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: really need this reminder too, that I can be a

840
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: respectable woman and I can also go like.

841
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: To Coachella and fuck off. But I didn't think I didn't.

842
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have realized it as clearly

843
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: with It wasn't through communication and through community and through

844
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: retreats and meetups that women are losing themselves at a

845
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: rapid rate because they're existing in environments and in family

846
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: structures and in front structures that really victimize existing and

847
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: playing and having fun joy.

848
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: And I'm happy to be the extreme in all of

849
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: that so that women can fall somewhere in the spectrum

850
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: of their own personal freedom. Like if I have to

851
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: be fucking extreme just so you can fucking relax, I'm

852
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: gonna do that.

853
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like that is our gift and that

854
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: is by nature.

855
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: Thank you God, God has granted this the gift of nature.

856
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh didn't get a necklace, not my nature.

857
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: They already did it. It was they were bigger than

858
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: nineties women.

859
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 5: So six years a lot of words, said a lot

860
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 5: of experiences.

861
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 4: Any regrets, anything that you regret, it's.

862
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: Not really regret. Maybe a little bit.

863
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I wish I would have not shared all of my

864
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: relationships so only because I feel like I thin guys

865
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: really think that I care so deeply because I've shared

866
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: an experience when it's really just I just be talking

867
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: and I just be talking to my best friend. I'd

868
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: be forgetting there's cameras there, and it's really not about

869
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: that I cared so deeply. It was just like he

870
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: was fucking again. He needed to be I was just

871
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: telling my friend, like, this is what happened. And then

872
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, you talked about me. I'm important. Tell me,

873
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: why didn't you say that to me and to my face?

874
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I did say that to your face.

875
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: You just don't listen, and that's why we're not together.

876
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

877
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: I think there's times where I wish I wouldn't have

878
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: shared certain people that at this point, and even in

879
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: that point, I don't want to say it didn't matter,

880
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: because every person has contributed to my journey, but I

881
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: think that there's certain people that I've spoken about that

882
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: have really held on to the fact that I shared

883
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: them publicly.

884
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: So that would probably be my only regret.

885
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't really, I'm not one that lives

886
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: in regret, right, I didn't think so.

887
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

888
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: Literally, my high school quo is no regrets in my time,

889
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: my yearbook it it's no regrets.

890
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really have any regrets. You know.

891
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: What my regret would be is that some of the

892
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: regrets that I hold is that I didn't share more earlier. Really, like,

893
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: I feel like I was pretty open early, but I

894
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: was also reserved because I was nervous. There was a

895
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: point in the early on the podcast that I was

896
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: going to quit and I told Jamila to just move

897
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: on without me, because I was good mom.

898
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: Good mom that choices.

899
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I remember early on, I have this like

900
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: vivid memory. It was actually like I was I was

901
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: on live and Weezy came into uh one of my

902
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: lives and she was talking I don't know, she was

903
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 3: just saying a bunch of wild shit, and my mom

904
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: was in the live and then and I didn't know

905
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: she was alive, and then we got off the live.

906
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: My mom was like, you need to quit your fucking hobby.

907
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: You're in like you were like Dubai. Dubai called me

908
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: from Dubai like we have to stop. Weezy came into

909
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: the live.

910
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, bitch, fuck Wheezy.

911
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: I was actually didn't have purpose to fuck with you.

912
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: She was like, find somebody else. I was like, it's

913
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: not happening, call you back.

914
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So because of that, not because of that, but

915
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: there definitely been times where I've held back based on

916
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: just out of fear of losing my job, my family

917
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: business job that I felt like I was like going

918
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: to ruin my mom's opportunities for investors, and yeah, people

919
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: saying like it was too much, and a lot of

920
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: the a lot of my a lot of the the

921
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: suffering that I've experienced in this life has been worrying

922
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: about what other people think, and so good Mom's has

923
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: really been a l an, a weekly release of not

924
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: really giving a fuck. And so I feel like through

925
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: the through the years and through the episodes, I have

926
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: learned to care less and less and less. But early

927
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: on I was m I don't wanna say reserved, but

928
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: there were things that like I didn't share because out

929
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: of respect for my mom, out of fear, out of

930
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: not even in respect, but like fear of like looking stupid,

931
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: or like not even wanting to expose my child's father

932
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: because maybe we'ld get back together, even though like I

933
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: would never have admitted that out loud, And also just

934
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: being embarrassed about my storyline as far as like how

935
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: I became a single mom and not really wanting to

936
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: like fully x share all the details of it, and

937
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: now knowing, like I've written a whole book and I've

938
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: shared all those things pretty candidly, how therapeutic it was

939
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: for me and how therapeutic it has been for other women.

940
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: I guess my only regret is not sharing more.

941
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: On our podcast. The audience kicks.

942
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: My ass a lot, do they?

943
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

944
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: They do?

945
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, sure, very opinionated. I have a very specific

946
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: way of looking at the world, and sometimes I'm not

947
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: far enough to the left for them, and then sometimes I'm.

948
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: Not safe enough for them. It's always an interesting thing

949
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: to get the feedback from the audience.

950
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 5: They love the ideas, they like me, but they always

951
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: want more in some way. Has there ever been a

952
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: time you, guys, felt like you disappointed your audience.

953
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: The only time I ever felt like I disappointed in

954
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: my audience was when we read Lipstick Alley and they said,

955
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: we missed the days when Erica Jubila were hoeing more.

956
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: Now they're like on their wellness shit and they're healed.

957
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: Where the fuck are the fun stories?

958
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, are we boring? Like, oh yeah,

959
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I forgot him of that.

960
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine being so wild that you lose your

961
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: audience over.

962
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Being healed as normal? That's crazy? And it did that?

963
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Did that did bother me? For a while.

964
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't like remember some of my

965
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: horror stories, but I yeah, I guess, guy, I.

966
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 5: Can understand that, right if people are living vicariously, if

967
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 5: people are saying, I can only be let's see you

968
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: guys are Erica and Mela every day. But there's people

969
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: that go, I can only be Erica and Meila on

970
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 5: Saturday and the other's six days.

971
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: I just look at them on Instagram and listen to

972
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: the podcast and.

973
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: Then we're doing meditation and then y'all y'all talking.

974
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: About this is my sixty five sixty fifth day settlement.

975
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: That's not what they came for.

976
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: So one of so what I'm saying is how do

977
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 5: you deal with that? Like when that has happened because

978
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 5: your growth, you have to pull in with you.

979
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: Sometimes, you know what I mean.

980
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 3: I think that we just ignore it, which probably isn't

981
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: the best thing too, because I've seen our I've seen

982
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: how our our listens have fluctuated based on like whatever

983
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: content we've posted, but I haven't really like, I don't live.

984
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: I'm thankful that me and Mila do not live and

985
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: die by numbers, because if we did, we'd fucking drive

986
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: ourselves fucking crazy. I've seen some of my friends literally

987
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: looking at insights and analytics and being like.

988
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: What worked, what didn't work? I got to do more of.

989
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: This, and I'm like, I'm seeing them go crazy, and

990
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, bitch, I don't know why we Our listeners

991
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: are down three thousand this month.

992
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't go fuck. I'm going to talk about this

993
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: this week.

994
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: And you know, I think that the beauty of what

995
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: we do is that you're literally on the journey of

996
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: our life with us. We have an audio journal. That's

997
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: really what Good Mom's Bad Choices is. It's a personal

998
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: audio journal, and thank god I have it because the

999
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: way my memory is set up, I'm really going to

1000
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: have to go back and listen to this shit. But

1001
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: I think like that has been that has been our

1002
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: saving grace is that it has been in a release

1003
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: and we don't listen to our show. I can't even

1004
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: tell you the last time I listened to an episode. Totality,

1005
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: the only time I listened to episodes is to find clips,

1006
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: and I don't. I try not to do that because

1007
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: if I do, and at this point I would never

1008
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: do that anyway. But we don't edit anything, like there's

1009
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: no cuts, there's no edits, And that also has been

1010
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: a you know, an issue for guests that come on

1011
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: and you know, they want to they want us to

1012
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 3: send the episode after it's recorded, and you know, I'm like, no.

1013
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: Like people we thought we were homies with during the episode,

1014
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: we haven't spoken like. That's not very often, probably one

1015
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: time that like, the episode comes out and they're like,

1016
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't think I sounded good. I'm like, bitch, you

1017
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: were there, you said it, and we're not redoing it

1018
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: because this costs money and this is production and we

1019
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: have shit to do. And just realizing that people like

1020
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: the gift of releasing that we've been practiced practice. It's

1021
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: not something that everyone has the has the capacity to do.

1022
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so some people can't.

1023
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: I mean some people they don't you say, they don't

1024
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 5: have the capacity to Some people just they can't allow

1025
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 5: themselves to be that untethered to what people think.

1026
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: Or just being perfect.

1027
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: Because like even when you think about like things that.

1028
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: I regret, I don't. I don't regret shit because it's

1029
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: all been a practice.

1030
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: It's all been like in in in in evolution and growth,

1031
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: Like I don't.

1032
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I can't.

1033
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: Like we might have had like one episode that was

1034
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: probably not like super kosher. Sometimes I think about if

1035
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: people are gonna understand me or understand our weird humor

1036
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: about like Christianity and like witches and ship like that,

1037
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: but like witches.

1038
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: My motherfucker is doing root work over here. What the

1039
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: fuck tell me about it? Tell me what's going on? Y'all?

1040
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: Y'all I got with the energies and ship.

1041
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: Of course we're alchemists, right, you're the one who said it.

1042
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: Look what we started to look we're at.

1043
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: Oh look, I mean perfect mother is a hool practitioner.

1044
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to see, is.

1045
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Your mommy to come on the show like.

1046
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: You guys would love her.

1047
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 5: She's she's a hoogle practitioner and all of these things

1048
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 5: different energies. My dad used to be like that. One

1049
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 5: time got me up. He said, man, walk out the

1050
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: front door for me. I was like, what He's like,

1051
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 5: get up and walk out the front door for me.

1052
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 5: The root work not gonna work on you. You have son

1053
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 5: the front door. If I walk out the front door first,

1054
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 5: I'm fucked up. But you walk out. I walk out there,

1055
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 5: his eggs cracked on the ground.

1056
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: What are you doing.

1057
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: On me?

1058
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 5: It's intentional work. It's not gonna work on me. She's

1059
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: trying to figure out and this fuck with the images

1060
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. I love my mom.

1061
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, even for us, I think that's been that.

1062
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: If you've watched us for the last six years and

1063
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: you've seen the evolution of like how we talk about

1064
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: the energy and how we manifest and like how explicit

1065
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: and transparent we've been with it. There was a time

1066
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: in the beginning, like we would not say we're witches.

1067
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 2: We would not say it because we know black women

1068
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: don't fuck with it. Like saying you're a witch in

1069
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: the black community is like the hell with them. But

1070
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: if we're like we love Jesus, we probably have way

1071
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: more listeners.

1072
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: We saw how that went for in that particular podcast

1073
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: that Lives.

1074
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Jesus, and then Jesus didn't saved the.

1075
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: You don't, I don't know.

1076
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: I really know.

1077
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: I love Jesus, but you know.

1078
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: Jesus created plants that I should be smoking right now,

1079
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: and you know, and to say and to and and

1080
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: to further that I will.

1081
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: Say, I love Jesus.

1082
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: Created this here, Jesus Christ, he was Nazareth.

1083
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 4: I just want to you guys mentioned them, so I

1084
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: want to shout him out to.

1085
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 5: I want to shout out Lipstick Ali because Lipstick Ali

1086
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 5: keeps me humble.

1087
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: Whenever I think I'm getting off, I'm doing my thing. Nigga.

1088
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: Don't want to Oscar Nigga that came up. I just

1089
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 4: type in Van Late and ellipsick Ali. You know, I

1090
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: hate this bitch fan Late like like he's like to

1091
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 4: because they talk.

1092
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: I don't want that.

1093
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 5: I like for people to express themselves about things that

1094
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 5: I say. I put myself out there, so that's what

1095
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 5: it is.

1096
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: Me.

1097
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: Look, where would you be in your life if not

1098
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: for Eric?

1099
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: Where would you be, darling? I don't know. I don't

1100
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: know where I'd be lashing my life.

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00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: Away Where would I be without Erica? That's a pretty

1102
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: in depth question, and I don't know. I think about

1103
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: that often. You do, I mean I do. I just

1104
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: think about.

1105
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 6: The wild turn my life took when we met.

1106
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: Like honestly, we talk about this entity and we talk

1107
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: about it lightly and we joked to America. But the

1108
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is is like when we met,

1109
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: something extremely divine and magical took place. Like when you

1110
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: talk about soulmates and like soul relationships.

1111
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: This was something that was absolutely four hundred percent supposed

1112
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: to happen.

1113
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: And it's been humbling and it's been beautiful and I

1114
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: want to say urgasmic, but I know people can't really

1115
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: like take sex platon like sex and bring it to sex.

1116
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 4: But hard to have a platonic orgasm.

1117
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: But we've done it.

1118
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 4: You guys have had platonic orgasms. Talk about it. What

1119
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 4: do you mean?

1120
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: Well, darling, you know, I'm I'm so you got.

1121
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 5: What you're saying is you've looked at her and been like,

1122
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 5: that's such my friend.

1123
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 4: I'd like, I've never that's interesting. I've never heard of

1124
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: the friendship. The friendship nut is crazy.

1125
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: We'll be here first to tell you.

1126
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: We call it the goddess experience, but it is a

1127
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 2: friendship nut and it's a it's it's choreas, it's it's

1128
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: energetic orgasms.

1129
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: It's being able.

1130
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: To harness and facilitate and hold on to and elongate

1131
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: the pleasure that you experience when you have a divine

1132
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: experience with someone.

1133
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: And there's been conduits.

1134
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: It's just been us, but there's been ways in which

1135
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: we've experienced life changing things that are so unreal and

1136
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: so juicy that we're like.

1137
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: Pretty much basically and yeah, I think without Erica.

1138
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: I think when I met Erica and when we started,

1139
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: she's really been the reason I've recognized my power to

1140
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: recognize what like a powerful which I am and when

1141
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: I say which, I just mean like alchemist. And like

1142
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: when we joined forces, it was very clear that like

1143
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: when we have the same vision, even Van, I'll be honest,

1144
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: like you were one of the first, like one of

1145
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: the very like there's like probably five or six first

1146
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: realizations that our power was very strong because we were

1147
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: just like dming people.

1148
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he.

1149
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: Seems close enough but far enough, celebrity enough that we

1150
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: can get in and you and like literally within minutes you.

1151
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: Text back and we're like, we did it. We're like,

1152
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: he can do it, but we didn't.

1153
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: I think we knew it could happen, but we didn't

1154
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: really know it could happen. But then when you came

1155
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: over and became friends, there was an energy that started

1156
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: to build and that we were just thinking. We realized

1157
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: that like our thoughts and our and our words could

1158
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: manifest in reality.

1159
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: We started to like be able to kind like kindle between.

1160
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: The the realms of like mind and thought energetic to

1161
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: three D. And I don't think I would have come

1162
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: to that realization of my personal power without Erica.

1163
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: Erica is a bad bitch.

1164
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 6: She comes from like a mother who's super.

1165
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: Super accomplished, accomplished boss successful boss woman, and she brings

1166
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: that to the table, you know, and she's seen it

1167
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: happen and she's you know.

1168
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: And so when.

1169
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: I tapped into that power, we exchanged in it. And

1170
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have been able to

1171
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: tap into it the same way had it not been

1172
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: for her confidence in ways and instilling confidence in me.

1173
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm grateful for that all the time. And

1174
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: even in this chapter, as we like do things separately,

1175
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 2: I can tell I can tap into that bank watch.

1176
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: It was a question how would be different? If how

1177
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: it is, it.

1178
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Would be so boring, so so boring, way boring.

1179
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: I you know, really gave me confidence, like real confidence,

1180
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: because I feel like I've always been able to wear

1181
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: the mask of confidence really easily, like people have always

1182
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: thought I'm like the most confident woman in the room.

1183
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: That's just I.

1184
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: Guess, the facade that I've always been able to assert.

1185
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if that comes from like seeing my

1186
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: mom as a single mom have to fake it till

1187
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: she make it, and also be an actor and learning

1188
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: how to fake it till I make it, and also

1189
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: as a child like not wanting people to like see

1190
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: my vulnerabilities in ways, so there's level of protection and

1191
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: that I guess exudes this air of confidence when really

1192
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: it was rooted in a lot of insecurity. And so

1193
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: I think even you know, when I talk about the

1194
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: story of how I saw Jamila on Instagram and her

1195
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: confidence that I saw in the picture that I saw

1196
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: triggered the fuck out of me because it was real confidence,

1197
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: Like she was like, I'm in a string bikini, I

1198
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: just gave birth, and I'm at the fucking cool party

1199
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 3: with my daughter because I'm living my best life, whether

1200
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: or not she was actually happy and whatever the fuck

1201
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 3: Like to me, I saw that and I was like,

1202
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: oh my god, Like that's she's really confident.

1203
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: And I felt myself like am I.

1204
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: And so I think in this partnership with Jamila, like

1205
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: I've really been able to cultivate genuine confidence in the

1206
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: bossiness that she sees in me, in the U the

1207
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: creator in me like my I have. I'm a fucking creator,

1208
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: Like I am a well of ideas in all different

1209
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: types of ways. And for a long time, especially like

1210
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: right before I had my daughter, during the early stages

1211
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: of motherhood, I felt so secure about my gifts.

1212
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: As an actor.

1213
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: I felt like I wasn't booking shit for so long,

1214
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: like maybe it just I just shouldn't do this shit anymore.

1215
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: Like as a as.

1216
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: A writer and a singer, I was like, I'm not

1217
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: very good at that either. Like I was like had

1218
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: so many different things I had tapped into, but I

1219
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: hadn't mastered any of it. And so I think being

1220
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 3: in this relationship with Jamila and building good moms with her,

1221
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: like I've mastered the fuck out of this shit, Like

1222
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: I feel one hundred percent confident in what I bring

1223
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: to the table as not just a business owner or

1224
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: like a podcaster or Erica, but like just as.

1225
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: A woman overall, as a human.

1226
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: I feel like I've I'm doing my due diligence to

1227
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 3: really master myself. And this is a lifelong journey and

1228
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm committed to it. But I feel confident in knowing

1229
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 3: that that's the trajectory that I'm on, and a lot

1230
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: of that is because of my friends.

1231
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: Let's talk about.

1232
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: He couldn't wait. I could see him, he was rocking,

1233
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: like I want to just like what am I gonna?

1234
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: What about him?

1235
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 4: When?

1236
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: What about him? Man?

1237
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 5: The opportunity my man and I will never pass up

1238
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 5: the opportunity to center ourselves and myself in any conversation.

1239
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 5: So we just talk about men do that and how

1240
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 5: you guys want men to respond to what it is

1241
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 5: that you're doing. Do you care if men respond to

1242
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 5: the podcast? Do you care if they are fans? Do

1243
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 5: you care if they get something from it? Is it

1244
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 5: even a target artists? I've one time was an interview

1245
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: at Every Different Day, and I asked her how she

1246
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 5: will want white people? What you will want white people

1247
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 5: to get from when.

1248
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: They okay, sprinkle, I just say, and we're gonna ask

1249
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: the same question again about again, and.

1250
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 4: She goes, she goes.

1251
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 5: I remember her going because it was a dairy answer

1252
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 5: to somebody who has something on Netflix.

1253
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: She just goes. I don't care. She's like, that's the

1254
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: furthest thing from my mind. That's what they get. I

1255
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: didn't do it for that. I didn't make it for that.

1256
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 5: Do you care if men are enriched, if men get

1257
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: anything from the content that you put out, because it's

1258
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 5: very liberating and empowering to women.

1259
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 4: Do you care what men get?

1260
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: One thing I've learned, I recognize if we're speaking the

1261
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: same language now, men, if you check out Good Moms

1262
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: and you see beautiful Erica and beautiful Nila living in

1263
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: their joy and peace and purpose fully and out loud,

1264
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: and you don't fucking get it at all, and you

1265
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: were triggered and you think we're fucking debaucherous, wild and

1266
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: crazy and not to be wives or mothers. If you

1267
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: feel that way, you're not speaking our language.

1268
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: You are not on the level. And I don't give

1269
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: a fuck about your opinion.

1270
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: I realize that there's no hope for you in this

1271
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: season or maybe me this lifetime, and I feel for

1272
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: you and I release you. However, if you're a man

1273
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: and you realize and you can resonate with and relate

1274
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: to joy, pure joy of friendship and love and growth,

1275
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: and you say I want that, I want my wife

1276
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: or my girlfriend to live in this existence, because what

1277
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: the fuck what an unhappy wife looks like?

1278
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Then I encourage you, and I invite you to come.

1279
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: Gather around the women in the wombs of the world,

1280
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: because the universe is here between our legs, and if

1281
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: you're smart enough, you will get with the program and

1282
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: probably get more pussy and more peace.

1283
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: And peace is what you would get. Pussy and.

1284
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: Camera that was interesting. So there is something for men

1285
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: to get out of it.

1286
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: They can get pussy. And if you get it, you

1287
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: get it.

1288
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: If you get the message of pouring into the women

1289
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: in which you came from and what you give to

1290
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: and what you exchange with, and that we are intuitive,

1291
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: and that we are nurturers, and that we deeply love

1292
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: on a level that sometimes is fucking dangerous to our

1293
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: own existence and our own purpose, then you understand the

1294
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: value of pouring into a wild, primal woman, and you

1295
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: realize that Once you have that protection and you protect

1296
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: that that your purpose and your passion will always.

1297
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 6: Be protected in a way that no one can fuck with.

1298
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: Because we're witches and literally we alchemize and shift shit

1299
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: if we want to, and if we genuinely love and

1300
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: we genuinely feel safe, and I see that like men

1301
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: have felt been comfortable and allowing women to.

1302
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: Not feel safe not behold.

1303
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, well, if I do this, I'll be loved. Well,

1304
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: what if she does this? You know, like, then who

1305
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: will she be?

1306
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: Like?

1307
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: Do you want to bidch who fears you and wants

1308
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: to shrink? Or do you want to see the full

1309
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: so you can choose?

1310
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: Do you want to see her full expression? What her

1311
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: expression on this life, in this life is supposed to

1312
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: be outside of who you are. Because you have choices,

1313
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: you don't have to choose that woman. You don't have

1314
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: to actually love that woman. That's okay, Just find the

1315
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: woman for you. She may not be as wild as

1316
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: Jamila or me. She might her expression might look different,

1317
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: but allowing her to exist as she is and pouring

1318
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 3: into her is always going to benefit you and respecting her.

1319
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: We can't wait for it to benefit you. In fact,

1320
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: We cannot fucking wait.

1321
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: For that, literally, Paul, we fucking want is for it

1322
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: to be a man who is worthy of us pouring,

1323
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: and that would just allow us to live and be.

1324
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: Why have a problem with that because they're too busy

1325
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: trying to tell us how to be, because they've benefit.

1326
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: Because many to stay out of women's business.

1327
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: Benefited women is shrinking. It's like racism. If you're a

1328
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: white person who doesn't want to acknowledge like race in

1329
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: America and like systematize racism, you benefit from the system, right,

1330
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: You benefit from people not knowing themselves.

1331
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: You benefit from people.

1332
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 6: Shrinking in certain situations, you benefit from it.

1333
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: But if you're per a white person who's like, I

1334
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: see it, shit's fucked up. Let's let's be real, then

1335
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: you benefit from the expansion of the world as a whole.

1336
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: And so there's a difference.

1337
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: So if you're so afraid of women existing and their

1338
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: sexuality and their sensuality.

1339
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: If me taking like like just.

1340
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 6: Embodying my whole self, if that is what I.

1341
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: Do and it offends you, and it offends you, you're

1342
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: afraid that what that looks like. If I, like I,

1343
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: if I pull out my full wings, if I expand fully, but.

1344
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: Like that also is just like who wants to I don't.

1345
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't want a slave if I want a willing lover.

1346
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: And so that's the that's the difference. Do you want

1347
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: someone who is who has been contained and domesticated, the

1348
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: pup that's been beat or do you.

1349
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: Want someone a wild like it's like Avatar.

1350
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: Do you want that, like that big dinosaur in the

1351
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: fucking sky that you have to tame and plug into

1352
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: or do you want it?

1353
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1354
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: He becomes to and now I say it again and yeah,

1355
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: you want to like take that version of me? Do

1356
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: you want that storyline or do you want that? I

1357
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: don't know, you mean the one we know? Everyone ends

1358
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: and it ends the same and it's sad and boring.

1359
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 5: You know what people sometimes show to understand the difference

1360
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 5: between safety and protection.

1361
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 4: So if let's say that.

1362
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 5: There are two people right here and they're getting ready

1363
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 5: to fight big huge guy.

1364
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: Let's say it's Mike Tyson and is fucking I don't know.

1365
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 5: Some little bitty nigga like I don't want to just

1366
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 5: nobody because niggas take that seriously. But it's is Mike

1367
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 5: Tyson and just out knows Bawa shout out to Bawa,

1368
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 5: but I don't think you can fuck with my typo.

1369
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: They're getting ready for all right.

1370
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 5: So Mike Tyson looks at Bawlaw he goes, I'm not

1371
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: gonna suck him up.

1372
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 4: You're too small, you don't have any training. I'm not

1373
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 4: gonna fuck you up.

1374
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 5: BiLaw is not safe. The small guy isn't safe. He's protected.

1375
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 5: The powerful person is saying, I could hurt you.

1376
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to that. Even though no violence

1377
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: is gonna come.

1378
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 5: To you, your safety and who you are is based

1379
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 5: upon what this person chooses to do to you or

1380
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 5: not to do. The only way for the person, the

1381
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 5: smaller person to be safe is to be powerful.

1382
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 4: That's the only thing. And I think sometimes men have

1383
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 4: a problem with allowing.

1384
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,959
Speaker 5: Women to be able to hurt them as well, because

1385
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 5: the only that you can be powerful is if there

1386
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 5: are consequences for bad actions, both economically, emotionally, and sometimes

1387
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 5: physically protecting women. Even anytime you hear somebody say protect

1388
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 5: black women, it's a good slogan, but it's not enough.

1389
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 5: The slogan is empower black women. And anytime you empower somebody,

1390
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 5: you have to give them a say in their own situation,

1391
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 5: they have to have the ability to hurt and demand

1392
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 5: better from you.

1393
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,520
Speaker 4: And that's what doesn't reinforce patriarchy.

1394
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you want a man to protect you, you

1395
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 5: want a man to do all of this stuff. But

1396
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 5: more importantly than that, in my opinion, you want somebody

1397
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 5: to invest into you to where you don't need them,

1398
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 5: you want them. That's hard, and it's hard because as men,

1399
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 5: we are taught to commodify women. A woman is something

1400
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 5: that you add to your life, out your portfolio. I

1401
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: want a wife, I want to house kids.

1402
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean women have the same that those ways.

1403
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: No, but women's need for husbands is more. It has

1404
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: way more to do with their worthiness and their their worth.

1405
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not about commodity in that way.

1406
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: Are our relationship status has a lot to do with

1407
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: our worth and so I could be even as you

1408
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 2: see it every day, successful women who are single or

1409
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: not are disposable.

1410
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: You're too bossy, you're too masculine.

1411
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: But and like and it's a it's a wound for

1412
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: them if you're not married and have kids. Women pride

1413
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: themselves to the top of the list is I'm married,

1414
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: I have a kid, I'm married, and I'm a mother

1415
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: married mber one because the number one, like, I don't

1416
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: look at a lot of comments with the number one

1417
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: comment I see.

1418
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: Is where's your husband? You're a baby mama, you chose that,

1419
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: man all.

1420
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: It's like literally the most it's the easiest target for us.

1421
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, there's the mean comments that people say. Did

1422
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 4: it get to you guys?

1423
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: Not really.

1424
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 3: I don't look, honestly, I just I'm so not going

1425
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: to look. I will literally see things and just skip

1426
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: over and go to the next one. Like my brain

1427
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: actively chooses not to know.

1428
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 4: Violence that bothers.

1429
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 5: Me in a real way is when someone completely misconstrued something.

1430
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: They don't get it.

1431
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: I say something and then man came out and blah

1432
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 4: blah blah. I'm like, yo, I.

1433
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 5: Even say that, and then I'll be already writing paragraphs

1434
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 5: and paragraphs.

1435
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: I realized that some people are not even speaking your

1436
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: mother fucking language.

1437
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: You are speaking Chinese. If you don't even.

1438
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: Live in the land of intelligence that I live in,

1439
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: What the fuck do I look like going back and

1440
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: forth with you.

1441
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: You're looking at me, bitch.

1442
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know you, so like I have to continue,

1443
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: like physical stuff, I'm like bitch.

1444
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: You don't even have a picture up one here because you.

1445
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: Were like, damn, Mila.

1446
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: This is why I.

1447
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: Refrained from interactive. And I'm like, you're as silly as

1448
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: these bitches looking at you.

1449
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's the truth.

1450
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: Is like a lot of times, one time I did,

1451
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: I felt really bad. I commented on this man and

1452
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: I was like, nobody's talking to you. Sometimes you got

1453
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: these are not even conversations that pertain to you, sir,

1454
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 2: because I don't even know who you're fucking.

1455
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: You're not fucking.

1456
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: But I didn't realize, like what if I was the

1457
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 2: last insult of the day and he did something harmful

1458
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: to himself.

1459
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: I felt.

1460
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,520
Speaker 4: His class to you is it's funked up. And sometimes

1461
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 4: just amongst us, we do have to have those conversations together.

1462
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1463
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's like like, man, you know kind of body

1464
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: for me? Maybe they don't.

1465
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: I feel why.

1466
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I'll brother, I'm telling you, like you know,

1467
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: for me, I'm like my body that ain't.

1468
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 5: I appreciate you. I'm not even trying to pander. I

1469
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 5: swear to god it looks like that, but that's playing

1470
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 5: me like I'm just that's that's funnying to me, it's

1471
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 5: belaying me when they say that, because I'd be like, damn, bro,

1472
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 5: what time you got it? What time you gotta make

1473
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 5: it to Allo zone? Look, this is it's hilarious.

1474
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 4: But that's that's how we all. We all got a

1475
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 4: lot of growing to do, all right, last question I asked,

1476
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: that's all right, we all got a lot of growing

1477
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 4: to do.

1478
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: I'll be all that ship too.

1479
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 4: I'll be on that ship too.

1480
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes I got to checked myself, like dang, she

1481
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 5: doesn't care.

1482
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: It almost like I almost talked about j Lo's terribly

1483
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: addictive special with her not so good singing.

1484
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: That was just enough that I said I would do this.

1485
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: I wish someone would give me twenty million dollars so

1486
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: I could mediocre sing and do dance moves.

1487
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: But no one will.

1488
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: So it's the reality of like, should you say the thing?

1489
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: It could be true, but it's doesn't pertain to.

1490
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: A bitch. And also your friends just talking shit.

1491
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 5: He'll never fun It's just funny, bro, It's a funny

1492
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 5: situation when I think about its funny.

1493
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 4: I got you dog okay.

1494
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 5: Last, and the future obsolutely young women in control of

1495
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 5: your destiny.

1496
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: You've broken free from the major's broken free from the system.

1497
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 4: You're determining it for yourself. Stuff.

1498
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 5: Some people are clocking it and clocking out, and they

1499
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 5: don't have these same opportunities that you guys have. What

1500
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 5: is the future for not only good Mom's bad choices,

1501
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 5: the brand, but also.

1502
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 4: For eric.

1503
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: It's a load of question.

1504
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: It's a lot because there's a lot of America's and

1505
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: Melas and Erica's. I think leisure like a lot of

1506
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: less work, a lot of book reading, a lot of

1507
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: tropical climates, a lot of time with our kids.

1508
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 1: This last six years has.

1509
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: Gone by really quickly, and we've seen like we've put

1510
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: our head down and like we've wild out, but like

1511
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: we've done a lot of work. And I don't even

1512
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: think you and I realize how much work we've done.

1513
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: I don't think you really how much how many hours

1514
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: we've like put in and like to our friendship, to

1515
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: our you know, and just to this brand. And like

1516
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: I really hope that in this next chapter that we

1517
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: get everything that we deserve and everything we've worked for,

1518
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: so that we can really chill and like really be

1519
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 2: out of the matrix and heal more women and show

1520
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 2: not even heal more women, but like bring them back

1521
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: to themselves. And I just also know that like God's

1522
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: going to make that happen, because that's what needs to

1523
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: happen energetically on this planet.

1524
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 1: More creation. Creation is like my gift is our gift

1525
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 1: to the universe.

1526
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: So I just want to be able to create in

1527
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: leisure and really understand what creation looks like when I

1528
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: am just existing and I'm not pulled in a thousand directions.

1529
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: And I want to spend more time with myself in

1530
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 3: this next chapter of Good Moms and encourage other women

1531
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: to do so while also empowering women. So like spreading

1532
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: the message, but also like coming back to myself more.

1533
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: I've done a lot of like radiating over the last

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: six years, and I feel like it's going to continue

1535
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: to keep going no matter what. That's just the frequency

1536
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 3: of sound and energy. So I am trying to create

1537
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: my TV shows and meet women in different countries and

1538
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 3: write important things on pieces of paper and send it

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01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 3: off and see what happens.

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01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 4: I say those last question, So I'm gonna get heteronormative

1541
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: for a second. Lord, do you guys want more children?

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: I do? I do? Yeah?

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01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 4: Are there good more motherless to come? Or is that

1544
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 4: something that's.

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01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: I want more children? Mm hmmm, chilled child, child, one

1546
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: more one singular child. I want to be only because

1547
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: my words are very powerful. I want more child.

1548
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: And that's a new and that's something new, and that's

1549
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 3: only I think come up because I've rested more, you know,

1550
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm excited to see who Erica is

1551
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: when she is not in Create. Yes, Create, because I'm

1552
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 3: obsessed with everything I fucking do. I fucking love this ship,

1553
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 3: but also I want to like this shit stresses me

1554
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: the fuck out. There's certain elements of Creation that I

1555
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,959
Speaker 3: don't want to have to be a part of the business.

1556
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 3: Like I like that part a little bit, but there's

1557
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 3: just certain things I'm just like, you know what, I

1558
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: have four people in place in front of me that

1559
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: I trust wholeheartedly, that understand that will put back to

1560
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: me if I need to really understand why this email

1561
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 3: needs to be sent or not.

1562
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that I think that being able

1564
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: to feel more confident in where I'm at, in my stability,

1565
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: in my choices good and bad, I have come to

1566
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: the realization that yes, I do want one more child.

1567
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: Whereas before I was like.

1568
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 4: Keep the children away from me now.

1569
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: Deem it.

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01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: It was just like, do I trust myself to choose

1571
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: the right person? Yeah, Like I don't want to do

1572
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:51,799
Speaker 3: this shit alone.

1573
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: This is a ghetto. Let me, let's let's. I want

1574
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: to make this very clear.

1575
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: We have a whole brand about single motherhood and I

1576
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 3: fucking love being a mom and that's beautiful and great.

1577
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 3: But we have I have had to find a lot

1578
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,440
Speaker 3: of the glory and single motherhood.

1579
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,440
Speaker 1: I am not It is not beyond.

1580
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: Me that raising a child is more ideal in with

1581
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: a with two parents.

1582
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: The tribe is great and is so crucial.

1583
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 3: But like feeling confident and knowing that like when you

1584
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: enter into a union and creating another soul in this world,

1585
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 3: that like you are in conversation and agreement that you

1586
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: guys are going to be friends, and you guys are

1587
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 3: in collaboration. This is a fucking collaboration and we are

1588
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 3: collaborating on a fucking human for the next however long.

1589
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: The biggest collaboration of your life.

1590
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I think that, like I did not

1591
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: trust my my choices in the collaboration, whereas I feel

1592
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: more and more like allowing God to just guide me

1593
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 3: and not resist is how I find is how I

1594
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: create that collaboration. I finally have like submitted and surrendered.

1595
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: You know, so leisure par sound such a do you

1596
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 3: want kids?

1597
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: Man?

1598
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 4: Keep I keep coming up with that. What thank about anyway? Okay,

1599
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep coming up with that.

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01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: Absolute would you do that soon?

1601
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 5: Like?

1602
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: What do you have a timeline if you were going

1603
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: to be a mom again?

1604
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: No, because I'm surrendering, so I don't have a timeline.

1605
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 3: I I know that I would ideally not be soon,

1606
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: I hope not, Like I'm not so funny.

1607
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 4: It's just the universe hears things getting break this year.

1608
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 4: It's gonna I didn't have any drink. The universe is

1609
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 4: here just saying to Eric, is gonna get pregnant this year?

1610
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 4: Is gonna be so funny?

1611
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: What drinks do you want?

1612
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 4: Water?

1613
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 5: Bath and water break in Costa Rica?

1614
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: What if they could give birth like in the bathtub,

1615
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: like next to each other and.

1616
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,520
Speaker 1: That would happen? If you know the type of experiences

1617
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: me and Neila have had, I can imagine and not

1618
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: even like on purpose. It's not like we're like let's

1619
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: currate this like crazy movie like experience. Like it's like, no, bitch,

1620
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: just is just your surrender. Yeah, okay, but you know

1621
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna hang out with us more.

1622
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 4: I will.

1623
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: I will having like.

1624
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 4: I can't come to Costa Rica. That's fine.

1625
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: We have land.

1626
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 4: You have to have land. You're doing something there.

1627
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 5: I gotta do something for the niggas, y'all gotta do

1628
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 5: us in day things.

1629
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: How about a couples retreat.

1630
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 4: Couples retreat?

1631
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I asked you and you said.

1632
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: You're a nigga and you have there are limits the

1633
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: niggas can't.

1634
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 5: All I'm saying is for me is like there, it

1635
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 5: gets to a point a while because I just look

1636
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 5: around in different things.

1637
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, what we're doing, man, But.

1638
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: That's the problem. You're thinking, what are we doing?

1639
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 4: Hey?

1640
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 5: Look, I am self aware, like to the Instagram. Look,

1641
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 5: I have to have friends like you guys to go

1642
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 5: that's dope, that's amazing, And.

1643
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: Then me, I just got to look at you and

1644
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 3: say that's dope, that's amazing all the time.

1645
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: I get it.

1646
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is there's a freeness that it

1647
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 5: just worked on me. Okay, the whole ship the Matrice

1648
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 5: has worked on me. So there's a freeness that I'm

1649
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 5: okay with not having get in the Vision Pro and

1650
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 5: I'm on the Apple Vision Pro and that's what I'm free.

1651
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm in the digital world.

1652
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: What the fuck is Apple Vision Pro?

1653
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 4: You don't even know, you don't know this type of ship.

1654
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm on Robot, I don't know.

1655
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: You don't know in the visual We're gonna come pick

1656
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 3: you up this week.

1657
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to come down now. It seems like

1658
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: too much of a big deal.

1659
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: And look me in the eyes, man, I don't want

1660
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 3: I'm afraid.

1661
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: That's it.

1662
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: That's it. Plutonic male girlfriend interviews over. I will say this.

1663
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 4: I'm I've said this before.

1664
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 5: I've set it on various podcasts to where people have

1665
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 5: actually had if I was producing you guys, I really

1666
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 5: am actually very proud of you guys. Think what you

1667
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 5: do is the message that you have is very essential.

1668
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 5: I love to see free, fulfilled and just loved on

1669
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,959
Speaker 5: women and you guys' journey to that it's very very powerful,

1670
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 5: and I hope that it continues, and I wish nothing

1671
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 5: but abundance onto both of you guys's lives in your podcast.

1672
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 4: So thanks for having Thank.

1673
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: You, thank you for coming we didn't have the semi

1674
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: laundry patters.

1675
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: This time we had your phone number.

1676
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 5: Now you go some bubbles and then you've been enjoying

1677
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 5: the mocktails tonight.

1678
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you mocktails. What the fuck are you drinking?

1679
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: What is that water? Bubbled water? I need to hydrate.

1680
01:23:50,720 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't want me to tell you something what I am.

1681
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: So it's the last episode of season two. We're going

1682
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: off season and we'll be over at Patreon. So if

1683
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: you want to get this tea and all the intimate

1684
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: secrets of the Good Moms and just all the bonus

1685
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: episodes on our off season, come to Patreon. We have

1686
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: so much stuff over there and we can't wait to

1687
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: share it with our tribe. So go to Patreon and

1688
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