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And right now 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: we welcome in a. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: Man gosh man, Yeah, who was flexing. 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: Can his cigar afterwards. 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: On social media, he was letting people know the big 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: bad Wolf is back. 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: Like they never left. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: at the MMQB. Get him on X at Albert Breer 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: and if you want some of that smoke, you can 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: find him there, still reveling in his beloved Ohio State 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Buck guys beat down of the Michigan Wolverines at the 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Big House AB, good morning. 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 7: I was just winning with you mill on Saturday. That's 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 7: all okay, Yeah, I mean that's what they do, right, 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 7: I was winning with humility, no flags planted. 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: I mean, but you guys did X out there, M 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: and Krip walk the h Io and then Krip walked 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: the dot the dottings of the I I mean, I'm 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: just saying, like. 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: You guys did make a gang related you do. 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 7: Know that that was just the mascot was taking some 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 7: artistic license. Like I don't know, I mean, like I 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 7: just you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 51 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, who gets the most sensitive of the Michigan 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: people that you know in the media, who takes it 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: personal the most when something like that happens on Saturday. 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 7: Well before Saturday, I would have said, I would have said. 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 6: My good friend rich Eisen, but he actually. 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 7: Took it very well, and like I thought, he handled 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 7: it like very very. 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 6: Well on Monday. 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 5: So I don't know. 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 7: I mean, like I don't know, like a deep down 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 7: like Schefter, because Chefter will come out every so often 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 7: and say something, you know, when they're winning, and then 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 7: it's like the game never happened, you know, Like so 64 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 7: sometimes that's when they lose. 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 6: So sometimes that's the one that takes the heart. 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 5: It's hard to say. 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 8: I don't know. 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 7: There's a lot of them in the media though, for sure, 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 7: And I've got I personally have like an I'm like 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 7: a crap out of Michigan people in my life too, 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 7: So like Saturday was a very very good day. 72 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, by the way, I echoed that on Eisen. 73 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 9: I think I made a comment on the show one 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 9: time about Michigan. He has not had me on sense, 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 9: which is which is interesting. But it was definitely a 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 9: shot across the ballot Michigan and he was not too 77 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 9: pleased about it. 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 7: Albert, he takes it personally for sure. 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 9: We were just discussing this about Deshaun Watson having that 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 9: twenty one day window to come back for the Browns. 81 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 9: We're kind of throwing back and forth, like should the 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 9: Browns want to see what they have in Shador hasn't 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 9: really played much. We know Watson's, you know, coming back 84 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 9: from an injury. 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: There's a risk there if he plays gets hurt. 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 9: But LeVar thinks that he wants to get something out 87 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 9: of him. What's the point of him coming back this season? 88 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 9: Do you actually see him getting on the field. 89 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 7: If I'm Kevin Sefanski or Andrew Berry, I would want 91 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 7: to see I would want to like get a look 92 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 7: at him. And here's the reason why. I mean, as 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 7: much as we talk about Shador, the Browns actual investment 94 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 7: in Chador isn't. 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 6: Isn't very heavy. 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 7: It's a fifth round pick, you know, and like a 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 7: lot of times fifth round picks don't make the roster 98 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 7: coming out of camp. So, like, I you know, I 99 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 7: think Chaduor is still as much as we talk about him, 100 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 7: the investment isn't a big one in him. The investment 101 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 7: de Sean Watson has been three first round picks, hundreds 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 7: of millions of dollars, and they're going to pay him 103 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 7: forty six million dollars next year one way or the other. 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 7: Now there's the insurance thing and everything else, and we 105 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 7: can get into that if you want that. That would 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 7: be the risk of putting them back out there. 107 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 9: But you know, I think can you explain it in 108 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 9: like a simple way, because I think there's people out 109 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 9: there who don't probably understand it. Yeah, he's been there 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 9: three years, so it's kind of interesting. You feel like 111 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 9: they still need to get a look at him. 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, like I think it would be more 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 7: Look like, I think the reality is if you're the Browns, right, 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 7: and then. 115 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 6: I don't think you guys disagree with this, the likely 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 6: you will quarterback. 117 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 7: The quarterback for next year is probably not on the 118 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 7: roster right now. And so like if there's any shot, 119 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 7: like even a five percent shot that Deshaun Watson could 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 7: be that guy because you're already on the hook for 121 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 7: the money anyway, Like, wouldn't you want to get a look. 122 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 9: At that now some of these see My thing is 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 9: I thought it was more trade value based, like if 124 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 9: there's any chance of them getting back anything that shape. 125 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: I could play a part of it too, But you 126 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: don't know either way if you don't play them right. 127 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 7: So that's the thing, is like and and and there 128 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 7: is that part of it, like where. 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 6: As much as like we think that. 130 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 7: The Shawn of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 6: Is gone, maybe maybe he's not, you know what I mean? 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: And we did see we did see. 133 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: A guy we don't and I don't want it's gone. 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 9: I don't think he's coming back out seven years ago. 135 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 6: Oh I thought you were talking about my phone connection. 136 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 7: Sorry about that. 137 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: But you think that. 138 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 7: You thought that you thought that you think that Shaun 139 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 7: is just completely gone, there's no way, yes, okay, And 140 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 7: I think you're probably right, Like, but like I do, 141 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 7: I would look at this if I'm if I'm the 142 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 7: Browns and say, if there's anything there, I don't want 143 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 7: somebody else to find it. If like if I didn't 144 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 7: get a look at it first, you know what I mean, 145 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 7: Like I don't in other words, like in other words, can. 146 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 9: You explain the insurance thing though if he does get 147 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 9: injured and the risk that they face there. 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 7: It's like and I like, I honestly like i'd be 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 7: talking out of school, like I I don't, I don't 150 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 7: understand it as well, but like there is you know, 151 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 7: there's some insurance on the money for next year. And 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 7: I and I think like in the in the case 153 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 7: of an injury they you know, like like any sort 154 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 7: of any sort of like relief that they would get 155 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 7: on the money if they do cut them ye, like 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 7: like it. 157 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be there. 158 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 7: And I again like I'm not as I'm not as 159 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 7: well read on that one, like, but but there is 160 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 7: an insurance implication. 161 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 6: And like and look like I think I think part 162 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 6: of this again, like. 163 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 7: Is is if if somebody is going to find something 164 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 7: into Shaun Watson over the next year or two, right, like, 165 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 7: if there is still something there And I'm with you guys, 166 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 7: like I think it's almost almost certainly gone and like 167 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 7: I don't I think. 168 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 5: Off the field. 169 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: They took away superpower, Come on, I. 170 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 7: Think the player, I think the player that he once 171 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: was is probably not coming back. But like if if, if, 172 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 7: if that is somewhere in there still right, Like if 173 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 7: that is somewhere in there still and you just sunk 174 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 7: all this money and all those draft picks into him, 175 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 7: and then you didn't put him on the field and 176 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 7: got to look at him over the last few games 177 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 7: of the year. You cut him, and the next year 178 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 7: he goes somewhere else and all of a sudden, that 179 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 7: guy's back. 180 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: You'd be kicking. 181 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 7: Yourself, right, like you'd be, well, I wish I had 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 7: gotten a better look at that. And so it's not 183 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 7: like you're going to get some sort of extended look 184 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 7: at him here. But you know, as I look at 185 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 7: it at the end of a at the end of 186 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 7: a lost season, like yes, you want to see a 187 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 7: little bit more from Shador, you know, but you have 188 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 7: five games about to play with, so like, is you know, 189 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 7: is it does it make some sense the idea that 190 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 7: you could, you know, you could get you you could 191 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 7: at least get a look at what that's what that 192 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 7: would look like, you know, and and what he looks 193 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 7: like coming off the Achilles And if there's anything worth 194 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 7: working for working with there, or maybe again, like you said, 195 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 7: like maybe there's some sort of trade value where somebody 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 7: else wants to take a fly around him. Now, now, 197 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 7: I don't think any other team is going to take 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 7: on the forty six million dollars, so you'd obviously have 199 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 7: to pay down a bunch of it, you know, but like, well, 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 7: the thought would be. 201 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 9: The thought would be you pay a bunch down, but 202 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 9: in exchange for him, you get a draft pick, and 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,239 Speaker 9: you essentially buying. 204 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 7: That draft You're essentially right, so you're essentially buying a 205 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 7: draft pick, right, Like so it's like all right, like, well, 206 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 7: we were going to pay forty six, so why don't 207 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 7: you take him for twelve and we'll pay the other 208 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 7: we'll pay out the other thirty four and then and 209 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 7: then and then you and then you throw us a 210 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 7: fourth round pick something like that. 211 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: Man, simple value. They're screwed either way. I mean, there's 212 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: no way around the fact that they're screwed. 213 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 7: Like that's that's the no, no, no, no, this is 214 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 7: this is like, this is the end of it. 215 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 6: This is the end of a very like a historically 216 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 6: bad guy. 217 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: And is there any The question becomes, what is the 218 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: value of this Sean Watson. And if you do nothing 219 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 4: with him, if he comes back and there there's perceivably 220 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: five games left, if he comes back and you don't 221 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: use him at all, then you've gotten zero out of 222 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: being screwed anyway. So that's the point I was trying 223 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: to make before we hit the break, is I'm putting 224 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: him out there, like, and if he gets hurt, he 225 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: gets hurt, like, okay, like we're getting If he doesn't 226 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: get hurt, there's not going to be the value of 227 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: saying like, I don't think what you guys just explained 228 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 4: is even on the table. It's not on the table. 229 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: Nobody's going to take it to ye, there's no I 230 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: don't think there's any value at all for Deshaun Watson 231 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: at the number he's at. 232 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: There's none, especially not seeing him. 233 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 7: And and you're probably right with LeVar and like the 234 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 7: other piece of this too is like you get your 235 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 7: owner to sign off on that, and there's a pr 236 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 7: PR hit you're gonna take and. 237 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 6: Bring Hi the guy in, you know what I mean. 238 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 7: So if you're another team, like and you've got some 239 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 7: interest in taking a flyer into show on Watson, well 240 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 7: there's still that hurdle that you got to clear, which 241 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 7: is like I got to get my owners sign off 242 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 7: on this, you know, so like there's that piece of 243 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 7: it too. 244 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 6: So again, like all. 245 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 7: Of this is really unlikely. It's really unlikely that you know, 246 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 7: he's the Browns quarterback next year. It's really unlikely. 247 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 6: That they wind up getting anything for. 248 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 7: Him in the trade. 249 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: However, like you know, absent all that, like. 250 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 7: What do you do at the end of the year, 251 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 7: do you just hold him on the roster for another year, 252 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 7: which could complicate things with a new quarterback coming in? 253 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 7: Do you cut him and then he goes somewhere else? 254 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 7: And if he goes somewhere else and now he flashes, 255 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 7: now you will keep in dumber for not putting him 256 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 7: on the field at the end of the year to 257 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 7: at least see what you had. 258 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 6: You know, it's complicated, and. 259 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 7: It would be honestly, it would be. 260 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 6: It would be much easier for. 261 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 7: Them if he had just said, okay, the hell with it, 262 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 7: like I or his rehab had gone a little slower 263 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 7: and it was like okay, like I'm just gonna be 264 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 7: on ir. 265 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,359 Speaker 5: The rest of the year, you know, like out, I guess. 266 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 7: Much simpler cleaner thing for them. But now that he's 267 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 7: on the roster, like I think it's kind of like okay, 268 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 7: like he's not on the roster yet, but he's on. 269 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 7: You know, he's designated a return and they've got twenty 270 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 7: one days to decide whether they want to put him 271 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 7: on the roster or not. Like now it's like, okay, 272 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 7: like do we really like, like should we just get 273 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 7: a look at him and see what he looks like 274 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 7: after all this and see if there's anything to work with, 275 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 7: whether it's with us or someone else. In twenty twenty. 276 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 5: Six, you've had three years. I just think it's a risk. 277 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 9: But to me, I'd rather say I want on the record, 278 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 9: by the way, Albert and LeVar. 279 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: I want to see Chador all right, Yeah, I. 280 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 9: Just I got to I got to see him play more. 281 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 9: I think he needs more reps. I'd rather see sha 282 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 9: door and perfect and have some perfect timing more so 283 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 9: than see Watson. 284 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: I think you've already know what you want to see, mister, 285 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: let me door Sanders, it's perfect timing. 286 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: Sit again, do you Brady? 287 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 6: Do you think there's something there. 288 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: With shaudor Here's the thing is, he hasn't plate enough 289 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 5: for me to know. 290 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, so like, but here's what I don't think there's 291 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 9: anything there with Watson. He's thirty years old, he's coming 292 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 9: off of Achilles injury, he's hurt. We've seen him for 293 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 9: three years in games and in practice, and so like, 294 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 9: there's a greater likelihood in my mind that Shador would 295 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 9: turn out to be something more so than where Deshaun 296 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 9: Watson's out at this point in his career. 297 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: Can I can I jump in on that? 298 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 4: Can I can I give some perspective on that and 299 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: then you take it a B. What I would say 300 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: is the value Again, what you guys presented the value 301 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: of Shador in the fifth round says to me, I 302 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: don't necessarily even if I'm going to bring in a 303 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: quarterback in this year's draft, I don't necessarily look at 304 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: it as I have to be in a rush with 305 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: Shador Sanders. But the value that's connected to Deshaun Watson, 306 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 4: regardless of what I've seen from him in the last 307 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 4: three years, I need to see what I have right now, 308 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: currently present, if that man is available to play, because 309 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: I want to try to see if I could salvage 310 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: any schmidgeon of value out of what I did bringing 311 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: that man to this team. Speaking of Deshaun Watson, I 312 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: gotta see what I have in the Shawn, and for 313 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: what it's. 314 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: Worth, I might bring to Shaun Watson back next year. 315 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: And I can afford to keep Dylan Gabriel and afford 316 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: to keep Shador Sanders and draft another quarterback in the draft. 317 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: They can do that. 318 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: They have four quarterbacks this year, and like you said, 319 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: you they will. They've played all well, they got rid 320 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: of Picket, but Pickett Picket they played. They were gonna 321 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: play all four of them anyway, All of the quarterbacks played. 322 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: So if you're gonna, if you're gonna potentially hold four quarterbacks, 323 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: then who's to say you add one next year in 324 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: the draft. That's a top draft pick. That doesn't create 325 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: a problem. They're on their rookie contract, you got you 326 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: still have time to find out what you have in 327 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks you have now next season. 328 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: That's why I was at a restructure his deal though. 329 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 9: He's got eighty point seven million dollars cap hit, so 330 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 9: if he's on the roster, it's like what are you. 331 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 5: Doing with that? 332 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: So either he's on the roster or you got a 333 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: cutting right, So either way basically Okay, so either way, 334 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: you're not getting any value out of it. 335 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 6: If you cut him, you're still on the hook for 336 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: the money. 337 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 7: And like it's just again. 338 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 9: Not the additional funds, the forty million, not the eighty million. 339 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 9: What's that I said, not the additional You could do 340 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 9: it a post June one designation and split that cap 341 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 9: hit up a little bit. 342 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 6: You could split well, yeah, you could split it up. 343 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 7: You could also restructure if he's still on the roster 344 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 7: and put dummy ears in the back end. 345 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 9: Sure, and he's already got that, by the way. That's 346 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 9: the problemse You'd be extending him out even further. 347 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 7: You've already yeah, I mean you've already mortgaged that thing 348 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 7: to Mars, you know what I mean. Like so like 349 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 7: that that like that piece of it, Like you're you're 350 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 7: just pushing a problem for now into the future. 351 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: There Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. ABE, 352 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: speaking of guys you like massages, Robert raft is a 353 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: time finally great And I'm just I was just wondering 354 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: tremendous segue based on your knowledge, not of his fetishes, 355 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: but of that situation in New England. Why has it 356 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: taken so long for him to get in the Hall 357 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: of Fame. 358 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 7: What what that was the most ridiculous. I mean, Jonas, 359 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 7: I gotta give you credits. That was the Jonas that 360 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 7: was Like, that was like, I. 361 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 6: Think, I think you've been hanging around Brady. 362 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: No, Jonas is the king of the grab Lab. 363 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 9: Albert, there's no one who loves talking about the grab 364 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 9: Lab or whatever their names. 365 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 5: He comes up with Pallace. 366 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what Jonas the hand house, you know, hand house? 367 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: But like, why what is the delay based on the credentials? 368 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: Like Jerry Jones is already in? I don't get it. 369 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: So I think I. 370 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 7: Think they have like basically, I think a backlog of 371 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 7: owners that they wanted to get in, right, Like, so, 372 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 7: so Jerry went first, and then you know, I think 373 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 7: Pap bole and Robert Kraft were next. And if you 374 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 7: guys remember Pap Bolland was really, really sick and you know, 375 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 7: like in the throes of in the throws of Alzheimer's, 376 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 7: and so so he winds up getting in. And I 377 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 7: believe I want to say, Jerry was seventeen, and then 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 7: Bowling got it in eighteen, and then it was all right, 379 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 7: Craft is next, and then the Orchards of Asia thing 380 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 7: happened right then, right and if you go and it 381 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 7: really it was a factor because. 382 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: It was like, did you ever investigate the building, Albert 383 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: for the inside information of Orchards of Asia? 384 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 10: But it was so that. 385 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: Really is the reason. 386 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: No. 387 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 7: But but it was a factor at first because like 388 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 7: I think that they were like I think that the 389 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 7: committee looks at it like okay, like, well we can't 390 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 7: put him in, like right after that happened, you know 391 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 7: what I I mean, like and so like then that happens, 392 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 7: then you have the divorce with Belichick, then you have 393 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 7: and like all of that. I mean, I think, like 394 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: the reality is he should be in and regardless of 395 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 7: like what you think about and I have my own 396 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 7: thoughts on like how many owners should actually be in 397 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame and how we look at owners 398 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 7: is so fickle, you know, like it can change from 399 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 7: year to year, and I think, you know, Robert has 400 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 7: sort of been a victim of that to some degree. 401 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 6: But like I think as far as like. 402 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 7: If you if you're okay with owners going in, but 403 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 7: he checks all the boxes. He's obviously wanted a very 404 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 7: high level. He's winning again now after after a tough 405 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 7: four or five years, and like he's made an impact 406 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 7: on the league too. He's been very involved with you know, 407 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 7: the broadcast deals and everything else. So I think that 408 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 7: the timing for him was really tough, right, like that 409 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 7: timing in twenty nineteen, that that happened when it happened, 410 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 7: like right as he was, I think on his way 411 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 7: to going in, you know, was unfortunate. And whether or 412 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 7: not he gets in now, like the interesting thing now 413 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 7: is that he is going to be head to head 414 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 7: with Bill for it, because it's the two of them, 415 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 7: and then it's Elsie Greenwood, Ken Anderson and Roger Craig 416 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 7: and so all the fifty voters now. 417 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: Can vote for up to three. 418 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 7: They don't have to vote for three, but they can 419 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 7: vote for up to three of those. 420 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 8: Five and you need eighty. 421 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 6: Percent of the vote to get in. So like in 422 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 6: all likelihood, two non players, like it's hard for two 423 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 6: non players to get in, and that sort of circumstance. 424 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 6: So you know, I think on a lot of ballots 425 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 6: it's gonna be Belichick versus Craft, which makes it which 426 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 6: makes it sort of interesting and. 427 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 7: Adds another layer to all this. But I think Ultimately 428 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 7: both of them are going to wind up. I mean, 429 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 7: obviously Bill's going to get in and Robert will two. 430 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: Ultimately both of them will get in. Whether or not 431 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 7: they both get in this. 432 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: Year, we'll see. 433 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: How are How is Roger Craig and Elsie Greenwood not 434 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: already in the Pro Football Hall of Fame? 435 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 10: Like? 436 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: How does that? How does that work? I get, I 437 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: get that there was. 438 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 4: A lot of amazing, tremendously great players on both teams 439 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: for Roger Craig and for Elsie Greenwood, but their accolades 440 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: and their their accomplishments are very significant, even in the 441 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: personal on the personal level of it, not just the 442 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: many Super Bowls that they were able to be a 443 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: part of, but you know, they were all pros. They 444 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: were you know, multiple times you know. 445 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers. Like how how does that happen? 446 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: Ab Like, like what goes through the mind of a 447 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: voter where guys like that that accomplished at that high 448 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: of a level aren't aren't able to get in. I mean, 449 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: Elsie Greenwood won't even be able to realize if they 450 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 4: actually vote him in, he's not even here to be 451 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: able to enjoy and reap the benefits of being a 452 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. 453 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not. 454 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 7: I'm not on the committee, LeVar. So like I can't 455 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 7: speak of the inner workings of the room, but I 456 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 7: think it's exactly what you're what you're saying, which is 457 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 7: like there the teams that they played on had so 458 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 7: many great players that sometimes I think these guys like 459 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 7: you know that are a little bit further down the line, 460 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 7: get lost in the shuffle, and I'm with you, like 461 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 7: Elsie Green would obviously was a it was a huge 462 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 7: part of of of a historically great defense. 463 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: And so like I think, you know, now, is he 464 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 6: compared with you know. 465 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 7: The Jack Lamberts, and the and the and the Me 466 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 7: and Joe Greens and the and the mel Blunts, And 467 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 7: is it like, well, can we put in another one 468 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 7: of them? 469 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 470 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: You can't say their names without saying is you got Ham, 471 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: you got Lambert, you got me? And Joe you got Mail? 472 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: You can't say that. And and for what is worth 473 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: hall of fame, not hall. 474 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: Of not just what you're out. Yeah, many gold shoes 475 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: on it. Maybe he brought swag. 476 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 6: And I'm with you, and I'm with you, and then 477 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 6: you consider and then you. 478 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 7: Consider Roger Craig, It's like, okay, like, well, where does 479 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 7: Roger Craig rank with Joe Montana's, the Brent Jones, the 480 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 7: Jerry Rice's, the John Taylor's, the Dwight Clark's, Like where 481 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 7: does he? 482 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: But John Taylor isn't in the Hall of Fame? 483 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 7: Right And I would make that and I would make 484 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 7: the argument. And this is why I think, like on 485 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 7: offense to the Steelers, like Lynn Swan, it took forever 486 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 7: for him to get in, right like that, he was 487 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 7: such a huge part of what they did. I think 488 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 7: part of the problem Lindn Swan. 489 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: Had right like was that if you if. 490 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 7: You look at what's happened the receiver position, the numbers 491 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 7: were so different back then, it became hard for people 492 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 7: to kind of conceptualize, Okay, how great was he? Roger 493 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 7: Craig to me was like a fore runner, you know, 494 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 7: like I always looked like at my era, right like 495 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 7: and growing up like thurmon Thomas was sort of the 496 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 7: fore runner for Marshall Falk right like where and now 497 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 7: you see a lot of backs like that, but that 498 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 7: wasn't that common back in the. 499 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 6: Day, right like, where you had the guy. 500 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: He was right and Roger Christian McCaffrey like he's like 501 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: the multi. 502 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, Roger Craig was the first thousand thousand player right 503 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: like a thousand yards. I think I think he was 504 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 7: a I think that's I think he was. So, you know, 505 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 7: Roger Craig was certainly like a fur runner for again, 506 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 7: in that genre of running back. If you want to 507 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 7: talk about impact in the game, I'm certainly there on that. 508 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 6: So that's why the Seniors Committee. 509 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 7: Exists, you know, LeVar like, sometimes there are guys. 510 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 6: That get lost in the shuffle and and you and 511 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 6: people need to take a second look at him. And 512 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 6: I think that that's what's good about the Seniors Committee. 513 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 6: You know, when then when guys do slip. 514 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: Through the cracks that way, there is like a mechanism 515 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 7: in the in the in the whole process that that 516 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 7: that can force everybody to take. 517 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 6: A second look. 518 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 7: And I think both Else green Wood and Roger Craig 519 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 7: are really good candidate. 520 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect candidates. Just which else was there to be 521 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: able to enjoy it? Man? 522 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 523 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, ab moment of truth. 524 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Do you believe Albert Brier that at the end of 525 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship game, this weekend that the Ohio 526 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: State Buckeyes will have beaten Indiana by more than four points. 527 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 6: Well, I will be there, and I'm gonna say, yes, 528 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 6: I'm excited to get out there. I think Brady, you're 529 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 6: going to be out there too, right. 530 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, we'll be out there. Are you coming 531 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 5: to top three? 532 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 7: I didn't know. I didn't know because I think former 533 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 7: quarterbacks gotta be careful. And those those Indianapolis streets. 534 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 9: Oh wow, that's a low hanging fruit. Wow, that's low 535 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 9: hanging fruit. 536 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: Albert. First off, let me just say this, Okay, t 537 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 5: hanging fruit are. 538 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 9: Albert spends enough time during the combine in Indianapolish, he 539 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 9: spends enough time at the you know, during the combine 540 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 9: Indiapolis that I've seen him all right, Oh, many a knight, 541 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 9: many early mornings, and he's powered through. But he loves Indianapolis. 542 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 9: Don't let Albert twist. 543 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 6: This, Okay, I'm a big fan of Indianapolis. 544 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: That yes he is haang, what does he say? 545 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 7: In ab one of the one of the one of 546 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 7: the the the nation's pre eminent steak and shake locations 547 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 7: is right there. That's downtown, which I was I was 548 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 7: highly disappointed to find out that that that Steak and 549 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 7: Shake is no longer twenty four hours. 550 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 6: Just a really bad business decision by the executives there. 551 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 6: But uh, you know, you got Prime forty seven down there, 552 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 6: you got Almo's, you got Conrad. 553 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 7: I'm excited to get back out there. This is like 554 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 7: the first time I've gone on in a non combine 555 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 7: setting for in quite some time. 556 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 6: So you know, we'll see what it's like out there 557 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 6: on Saturday. 558 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 5: I'm excited for you, excited for you, Abe. You should be. 559 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: You should be. 560 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 7: It's a big It's gonna be a big night. 561 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: Get him on X at Albert Breer. 562 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: He is senior NFL reporter content strategist at the MMQB 563 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: and a Thursday tradition here on the show. 564 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 5: We'll do it again next. 565 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: Week, Albert. 566 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 7: All right, thanks guys, have a good one. 567 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: All right there, he is the great Albert Breer with 568 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: us here on Fox Sports Radio. 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So one 653 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: of the things we talked about yesterday is the new 654 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: college football playoff rankings and it's kind of interesting how 655 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden Alabama has jumped Notre Dame based 656 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: on this weekend's results and why now that actually took place. 657 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, the head coach of Notre Dame, tried to 658 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: make sense of it with the media yesterday. 659 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 10: A little bit of confusion. 660 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 8: You're confused in terms of what we could have done differently, right, 661 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 8: and why we fell when we won forty nine to twenty. 662 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 8: I mean, we were up forty forty two to six 663 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 8: going in the fourth quarter, and that's the only thing. 664 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 8: And it's not a I don't I don't spend time 665 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 8: talking about other teams, but it's just like, Okay, what 666 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 8: could we have done differently? 667 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: Don't know? Very bizarre, very bizarre, the the whole well. 668 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 9: And it's it's bizarre because, as I've said before, like 669 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 9: people won't acknowledge Notre name Stafford as a rivalry, but 670 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 9: you play for something, it's a rivalry. 671 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 5: We play every single year. 672 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 9: And as much as there's the tradition of Notre Dame 673 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 9: USC and you know, trading off even in odd years 674 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 9: when when which team goes where it actually is the 675 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 9: coincides with Stanford, you know, when we're not going to 676 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 9: sc during Thanksgiving at the end of the season and 677 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 9: we go to Stanford, and so those are always your 678 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 9: two California trips. 679 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 5: It's been that way for a long time. 680 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 9: And you know, I think there is probably more similarities 681 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 9: in regards to how Notre Dame and Stafford view themselves. 682 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 9: And so anyway, I bring that up because the committee 683 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 9: talked about, well, Albert or Alabama won a rivalry game 684 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 9: ors Alburn It's like, okay, but they damn near gave 685 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 9: up that game, whereas Notre Dame kind of like took 686 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 9: their foot off the gas and. 687 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 5: The fourth quarter. 688 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 9: And I also had, you know, some people who were saying, well, 689 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 9: and this is like a bigger picture conversation, is go 690 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 9: look at you know, Miami and Pitt and go look 691 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 9: at some of these other games and how long crystal 692 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 9: Ball is leaving in his starters and trying to run 693 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 9: up scores, which, mind you, a lot of teams are 694 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 9: doing that. 695 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 10: You know. 696 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 9: I've had this conversation with urban Meyer when he talked 697 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 9: about the first year of the playoff when they were 698 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 9: ranked six, that they leaped frog both Baylor and TCU 699 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 9: back when the Big Twelve didn't have a conference championship game. 700 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 9: They literally had to keep scoring versus Wisconsin to convince 701 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 9: the committee they were one of the top four teams. 702 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 9: Now they ultimately were, and they end up winning a 703 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 9: national championship. But there's some of that going on right now. 704 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 9: And if you care about sportsmanchev, if you care about 705 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 9: any of that stuff, you know it's it's kind of 706 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 9: tough to watch. But I would just I would say this, 707 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 9: Do I think both Miami and. 708 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 5: Notre Dame are better than BYU? Yeah? I do. And 709 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: people can throw BYU's redsid may or whatever you want 710 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 5: to say. 711 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Like I think any odds maker would also 712 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 9: have both those teams favored versus b YU. Also, I 713 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 9: think Notre Dame and Miami are probably better than Bama. Like, 714 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 9: we're letting Bama get the benefit of the doubt because 715 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 9: they play in the SEC, and if they lose this 716 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 9: week versus Georgia, I think most people feel like they're in. 717 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: And I don't think that should be the case. I 718 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: really don't. 719 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 9: Like we're talking about what would be a three loss 720 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 9: team who lost in the conference championship to you know, 721 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 9: a team that, like, again, if Ohio State is the 722 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 9: top of the college football world, and then you kind 723 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 9: of look at the SEC this year, the SEC doesn't 724 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 9: really have one dominant team. It was a m but 725 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 9: they played a softer schedule within the SEC this year, 726 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 9: a team that Notre Dame really basically beat, if not 727 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 9: for a botched pat and a terrible miscall in the 728 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 9: final play. So I just I kind of look at 729 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 9: it and say, like, do I think Miami and Notre 730 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 9: Dame are both two of the top teams in college football? 731 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 9: I do, But because of our format, you know, we 732 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 9: might be having you know, two group of six conference 733 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 9: champions getting a JMU in Tulane. And I'm also down 734 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 9: against the access of those smaller schools. But I do 735 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 9: think if we were going to expand, and we need 736 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 9: to expand because we're probably going to have a system 737 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 9: that leaves out some teams that probably could go on 738 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 9: a run and make it, and we're letting in potentially 739 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 9: a few teams who don't really have a shot whatsoever. 740 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 9: Like if UVA goes in, I'm sorry to people who 741 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 9: are Virginia fans. My sister went there and played soccer there. 742 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 9: I would I told her. I was like, they don't 743 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 9: have no shot at winning a national championship. They might 744 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 9: win the ACC and be duke, They're probably gonna be 745 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 9: a one and done once they get into the playoff. 746 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 5: And it's like, that's the reality of where we're at. 747 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 9: And I think there's a lot of people frustrated by 748 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 9: it because they want to see the best teams, the best, 749 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 9: you know, best games, and we don't have a format 750 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 9: really for that. 751 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: Right now, Your sister went to Virginia and played soccer too, 752 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: so like everybody in your family, d one athlete must 753 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: be nice, must be nice. Man, unbelievable. 754 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: So the uh, well, well, Notre Dame. What schools did 755 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: your family and you go to? Where did I'll go? 756 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: Uh? Nowhere? TGI Friday's Tech. 757 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 3: That's where I went. 758 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: So uh So, y'all got to get a college education 759 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: to be a dope, dope radio host on your own 760 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 4: show in college. 761 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: That's the American dream. Broum Lebron, so the uh. 762 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 5: To the radio version of Lebron, it's. 763 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: A lofty. 764 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 5: Uh no. 765 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: So the Notre Dame to make the Notre Dame. 766 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: To make the college football playoff on DraftKings, what you say? 767 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: The odds are based on the most recent. 768 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 9: College it's plus money plus minus four to make the playoff, 769 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 9: which is wild because like, I don't know that the 770 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 9: committee is going to see b YU out because because 771 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 9: again this is only the second year we've had the 772 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 9: twelve team playoff, but we haven't seen the committee penalized 773 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 9: teams who played in the conference championship weekend. 774 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 5: SMU lost last year eleven to two represent the ACC. 775 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 9: You know this, bar, that was the week first game, 776 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 9: and it's like they didn't penalize them, and granted, you 777 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 9: know that they were awful, Like let's be real, like 778 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 9: Penn State beat the crap out of them, but also 779 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 9: s mus not very good. You know, I think you'd 780 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 9: admit that too, Bar, Like. 781 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 4: We had a great day. We had a great time 782 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 4: that day. I mean, yeah, I regret that. 783 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 9: Was that was probably you were happy about that that 784 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 9: seed like you knew. 785 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 5: We're like, oh, yes, that's great. 786 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: I knew we were going to see whoever won between 787 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: you and Indiana. We knew that. Yeah, and think about sorry. 788 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 5: Teams are looking at Tilane. 789 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 9: That's how teams are looking at JMU if they get in, 790 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 9: you know, it's it's like Old miss has it set up. 791 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 9: They've got a really, really easy path. So they need 792 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 9: to expand they need to figure out a way of 793 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 9: these these super com differences, either getting rid of the 794 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 9: conference championship game altogether because it's meaningless, and then have 795 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 9: playing games like right now, Clark. 796 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 5: Lee said it. He goes, hey, boys, we can go 797 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 5: play on two days. Notice. 798 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 9: He's like, beer, keep your bags packed, let's go. Let's 799 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 9: go play Miamian. Let's go play a Notre Dame. Let's 800 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 9: go play another team in contention this weekend, so we 801 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 9: can prove that we're very you know, capable of being 802 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 9: in and being one of the best teams in the country. 803 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 9: Like that's how some of these coaches are handling this. 804 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 9: So I understand the frustration, but when it comes down 805 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 9: to it, like it's more of the system right now 806 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 9: that we've got than anything else. 807 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they're I mean, how many other teams outside 808 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: of Ohio, like the teams that would that you would 809 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: look at and say, that's a legitimate national champion possibility. 810 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's on the short list, and they're they're possibly 811 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: going to be on the outside looking in without losing 812 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: in a couple of months. 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You'll find today's full show and a 838 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: best of version posted right after we get off the air. 839 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 10: Dolly Parton could get that work. 840 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: Work Time to find out what's left towns Incredible. Here's 841 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: the left. 842 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 3: Over, kyler Y Ray, what have we got? 843 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 12: Okay, bar This one is specifically for. 844 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 10: You, Dolly Parton could get that work now. 845 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 13: You may never want to fly again because Dolly Parton 846 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 13: has introduced Dolly's Tennessee and Travel Stop coming here in 847 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 13: twenty twenty. 848 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 10: Six, Dolly part What does that mean? 849 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 12: That work she's kind of making like a Boosy's. 850 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 13: But it's starting in Tennessee, so it's going to be 851 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 13: family oriented, truck driver oriented, best stop that. 852 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 12: You can find along the highway. 853 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 13: So she's actually poised to bring jobs and attention to 854 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 13: under service communities across Tennessee and beyond. 855 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 10: I mean, I thought you're saying could get that work. 856 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 857 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 4: I thought you're saying she was going to be on 858 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 4: tour to trust that. Well, I would have been in 859 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 4: on that. 860 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 12: I bet she's going to be at every open. 861 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want it to be family friendly. 862 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 5: What do you want? 863 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean you here to drop. 864 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 10: Dolly Parton could get that work. 865 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 3: And it could happen out of truck stop. 866 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 10: I might risk it. 867 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 3: I might risk it, Dolly Parton, I might risk it. 868 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 10: Dolly Parton could get that work, all right, I get it. 869 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 12: Truck stuffed Yeah, Oh my gosh, what do you think. 870 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: She is a lot wizard? 871 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 4: Well, she's the one doing it. I didn't pick truck stops, 872 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 4: you did. I just don't want to be friendly, family friendly. 873 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 13: Thing, but the family friendly Okay, So I actually sent 874 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 13: you guys a little thing on Instagram yesterday in case 875 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 13: you saw it. Exciting things are coming for major League Baseball. 876 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 12: You know, Vegas just trying to up. 877 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 13: The ante on their sports venue extraordinaiy over there yesterday 878 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 13: the day before yesterday, now, the A's displayed a mini 879 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 13: model of their new ballpark that will be the focal 880 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 13: point of their ballpark Experience Center in Vegas. 881 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 4: It looked like a baseball cup, you know, like your 882 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 4: training cup looks like the thing you put in your 883 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 4: jockstrap protection. 884 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 12: You saying it, No, it looks like a spaceship. 885 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: To me, it looks like a cup. 886 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 4: You've never played football, Jotok, you clearly don't know what 887 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 4: a couple looks like. Look at that picture, a couple 888 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 4: of look at that picture, and look at what. 889 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't really look at a lot of cups. To 890 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: be honest, it's not my thing. 891 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 7: You know. 892 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 3: It reminded me Jonas. 893 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 4: It wasn't like I was looking for, like, Oh, this 894 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,479 Speaker 4: looks like something that. 895 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 3: Like I got to look at. 896 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: By the way, if anybody's wondering, Justin Cooper is still awake. 897 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: He just randomly sent me. 898 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 7: That that good. 899 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 6: Let's just put it this way. 900 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: Coop's got new respect for Miles Garrett's put that. 901 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 3: That's what that was? 902 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, what else? 903 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 6: We galleda? 904 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 13: We got like ten seconds left, but me and Patty 905 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 13: are going to Disneyland tonight. 906 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 10: Oh right, enjoy go