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Speaker 1: Motherfucking many of us. So mini episode, motherfucking many of us. Soul. Oh, numb, numb, numb,

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Speaker 1: Give me a bite of that. There it is, there,

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Speaker 1: it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode

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Speaker 1: of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive

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Speaker 1: deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we

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Speaker 1: finally worked to prove the theories that you the listener

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Speaker 1: have at home. That's right, motherfucker, it's a mini episode. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am your man from the Congo David boy from

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Speaker 1: the Congos here, and I you're American man lengths decournmans.

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Speaker 1: We're both there and we have We got an email

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Speaker 1: that I think immediately didn't sit right with either of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is important to get off our chests. We didn't

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Speaker 1: care for this email one bit. It was an email

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Speaker 1: from a person named M nameless motherfucker named M who

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Speaker 1: who sent us an email that that already the headline.

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Speaker 1: The subject line of this is fucking offensivest shit. They said,

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Speaker 1: too hotep for you. Question mark, which is don't call

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Speaker 1: us out like that. Yeah, I don't like that. What

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Speaker 1: the fuck like? Bro't be like that? You come into

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Speaker 1: my house. Yeah, you emailed me. I went went in

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Speaker 1: reach out to be like, hey, do you have any

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Speaker 1: theories to please? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were like, hey,

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Speaker 1: world renowned conspiracy theories. M put us on, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: this feels like an attack before we even get centered

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Speaker 1: in our in our ship. I don't like it. I

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Speaker 1: don't like it at all. So then so then they

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Speaker 1: try to soften the blow a little bit. They say,

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Speaker 1: love the show period, no exclamation point, no no in

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Speaker 1: emphasis anywhere, just love the show. Love what you boys

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Speaker 1: are doing over there. But they go on to say,

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Speaker 1: would you ever do a deep dive like a multi

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Speaker 1: part series on Bobby Hemmett and his and his whole

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Speaker 1: melanin magic conspiracy stuff? Might be too hotep in earnest

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Speaker 1: for a comedy podcast, or maybe you're scared of the truth. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your work. M. I can't tell where Emma's

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Speaker 1: coming from either. Yeah, Like, do you are you Alan?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in melan in magic? M? Ride like

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Speaker 1: his is M being like, Hey, if y'all really want

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Speaker 1: to be on some shit, you need to be exploring

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Speaker 1: Bobby Hemmett and what he got going on. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know you guys like to play around talking about racist turtles.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, you guys enjoy your little sandbox

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Speaker 1: over there, but if you ever want to see what

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Speaker 1: real saying looks like, come over here to Bobby emmetttown.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I didn't like that one bit, And

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Speaker 1: in fact, you know what's fucked up is that it

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Speaker 1: at this email. I got so angry at at at

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Speaker 1: the accusation that something would be too hotep for me,

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Speaker 1: that I've now been doing exactly what him is asking

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Speaker 1: for a major deep dive on Bobby Hemmett and his works.

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Speaker 1: For those that are unfamiliar with Bobby Hemmett, the best

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Speaker 1: way to explain who he is is to say he

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Speaker 1: is a motherfucker who is sort of like become the

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Speaker 1: He also is just a fat, little stout man with

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Speaker 1: He has a number of very popular videos online and

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Speaker 1: He doesn't believe that white people have souls that like

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Speaker 1: Joseph Smith, this is amazing. Here's my question of that is,

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