WEBVTT - "I OWN OSAMA BIN LADEN’S CAR”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, is this the get Go guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What's that man?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa it's an honor. Well I need some advice. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a quite a it's quite a unique one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, basically, I go to Afghanistan from time to time

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<v Speaker 1>and I ended up befriending the Taliban. Long story, and

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<v Speaker 1>I made a good amount of money from it. To

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, I could retire from it, but I'd really

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<v Speaker 1>put a damping out my social life because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I go out, I meet some new people and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they say they do like digital marketing or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>they turn to me, oh, what do you do? And

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<v Speaker 1>when I say, yeah, I like bought a tank from

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<v Speaker 1>the Taliban and I'd sold it to an American collector.

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<v Speaker 1>And then suddenly they run away or like they reported

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<v Speaker 1>me with the police, or you know, they just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about human rights and stuff. But to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of enjoy it, Like they're kind of like my talent.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how to talk to people. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a girlfriend. She's autistic enough to like it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I say when I meet to parents?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Miles? We spoke before, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We've never we Okay, we've never spoken on the podcast before,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh we DMed back and forth a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>because you you sent me a message just shortly after

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Iraq. You sent me a message and

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<v Speaker 2>you were like, you said, hey, if you ever want

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<v Speaker 2>to come to Afghanistan, I'll show you around. I own

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<v Speaker 2>Osama bin Laden's car. And I saw that message and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>So I responded and we chatted back and forth a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, and then you sent me a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>crazy stuff and I was like. I was like, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can have this conversation for sure, but we you

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<v Speaker 2>sent me a bunch of crazy stuff and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this man. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to Afghanistan because after Yanistan, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't listen. I'm not going to pretend like I know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about Afghanistan, but like I feel like Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>and Iraq are different ball games.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. That is true. Well, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to North End to Ireland and you show these people,

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<v Speaker 1>say a mobile phone, they'll think you're crazy. However, to

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<v Speaker 1>a wise man, it's just normal technology. That's that's you

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<v Speaker 1>view my messages to me only your southern Middlardin's car.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what I did. I went to the village where

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<v Speaker 1>he was and I was like, hey, buddy, hey pal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this car here in this photograph? Where is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I tracked it down and I'm like, huh, how

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<v Speaker 1>much is this to buy? Eight thousand dollars? Okay ring ring?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello auction house? How much would my this met worth?

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<v Speaker 1>One point two million? And then I'm like, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is great business, you know, think about it. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is nowhere and business sense really yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Miles, you know, Miles, I've I've I'm not like,

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<v Speaker 2>uh what, I've talked to a bunch of people and

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a bunch of stuff. So I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 2>believe that, like, uh, whatever whoever you are and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing is authentic. I'm willing to believe. I'm I'm more,

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely mean this, willing to believe that you owned

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<v Speaker 2>Osama bin Laden's car and that you are this guy

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<v Speaker 2>than than that you're pulling a prank on me. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do I I let's start from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you not scare the hose. Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into that, but I want to know. Hold, well,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, we'll get into that. Let's let's go from

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<v Speaker 2>the start, from the beginning. How old are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Miles twenty six but my hairline saints forty?

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, where are you from? Originally?

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately the very dangerous play. I'm kind of used to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from this place called Birmingham. It's like the Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>of England.

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<v Speaker 2>And how did you start going to Afghanistan?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I kind of went there by accident. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was about to start this job and they had this

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<v Speaker 1>program during COVID where they'll pay for your holiday beforehand

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of, you know, get you ready for insane hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But because it was COVID, there were only two options.

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<v Speaker 1>One was Albania and one was Afghanistan. So I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Afghanistan. And then three days later the

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban took over and I was kind of stuck there

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<v Speaker 1>with the military, so I just kind of walked around

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<v Speaker 1>for Selvy stick and filmed some of it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun and I've never drank alohol before that,

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<v Speaker 1>but its photos and me doing shots with the British

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<v Speaker 1>military before we got evacuated. I mean that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like my first taste of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And how did you make friends with the Taliban?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I had this tour guide who was there with

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<v Speaker 1>me at the time, and he kept begging me in

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<v Speaker 1>my DMS afterwards, saying he's gonna be killed by the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>So I planned to get him out by smuggling him

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<v Speaker 1>to Pakistans I guess human trafficking technically, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>wholesome way, and I flew back there, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>I got in the country, he basically backed out chicken

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<v Speaker 1>now the last second. So I ended up going to

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<v Speaker 1>this hotel. There wasn't a hotel. I walked into a

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban compound by accident, and then we just watched cricket

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<v Speaker 1>together around TV and ate food and it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chill. And then I saw some Taliban merge that

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<v Speaker 1>they gave to me, and I started sending it on eBay,

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<v Speaker 1>like flags, Mirsberry patches, stuff like that, like uniforms and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and autistic people really liked that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, why did why did the tour guide ask

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<v Speaker 2>you for help getting away from the Taliban?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. You had a really bad taste

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<v Speaker 1>in I guess people. I guess that's why he got captured.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wasn't good at decision making. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's doing fine now. I think he finally got

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<v Speaker 1>the US. But I think he's stund like a year

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<v Speaker 1>in jail or something because he used to work for

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and where are you calling me from? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you in England right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately? Yeah, it's three dangerous here, Honesley.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go back and forth between England and Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically. I know the CEO of the Afghan National

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<v Speaker 1>Airline and he jokes a flight from Kabalta London would

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<v Speaker 1>count it as a domestic flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh why, what's the joke?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the same type of people are there, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in London you just get stabbed. And sometimes I'm walking

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<v Speaker 1>around London and there's this language that the Taliban speak.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very a sting language called Pashtu, and I speak

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<v Speaker 1>some of it, you know, you pick it up and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking down the streets of London randomly and I

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<v Speaker 1>just hear it. I just hear it, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>like vinam slashbacks of the Taliban and I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>that guy is Askhan and we kind of lock eyes sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I'm in this Afghanistan restaurant in Cabul and

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<v Speaker 1>then some guy would come up to me and he

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<v Speaker 1>speaks perfect English and he goes, oh, yeah, I'm Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in London. And once I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>village or somewhere Billaden called Tora Bora. I went there

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<v Speaker 1>food relief efforts, and one guy showed me a selfie

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<v Speaker 1>of him in front of Big Ben and he's like ice.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, former isis? So I looked mortified, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just laughing and walks away. It's kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>concerning I don't even know what to do about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is your main job. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>make a living? How do you exist?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I buy something the cheap and I sell it

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<v Speaker 1>more and she's honest, our money is good. I means again,

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<v Speaker 1>or someone belongs car eight thousand dollars probably twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>on exporting a bunch of random.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I assume Wassamon Land probably had many cars.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is one. This is not like like it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. Like I believe you because I feel sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? I mean, I've met I'm aware of the

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<v Speaker 2>existence of like people like you who just get are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you autistic?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>What do I think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you keep alluding to it. I would assume it

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<v Speaker 2>would be real here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of you know. I mean if you said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be shocked, Like what normal normal person comes

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<v Speaker 1>up with this? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So you are Are you making this up? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's definitely true. Remember I sent you pictures

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Google my name is you?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually? Hold on, I'm up our chats because you did

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<v Speaker 2>send me. But did you send me pictures of you?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did. I just send you some pictures

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<v Speaker 1>right now, actually, let me just get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I remember you Ward Miles something on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I remember you. Okay, yeah, here you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, there you go, let me pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, I remember yeah, why do you? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember this exactly. Yeah, that's the picture of you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I see you and then yeah you sent me.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I watched you when I was in Taliban jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little bit of internet access, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's you're kind of funny. Thanks man. Thanks, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a picture of you with a SpongeBob tapestry with

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<v Speaker 2>with the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they they They have a growing in bart sector,

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<v Speaker 1>the injured. The economy is booming obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you are one hundred percent. I I unless

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<v Speaker 2>if you're using AI to fuck with me, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even I'm not gonna get I think you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean sometimes it kind of feels a bit bizarre,

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<v Speaker 1>even on my end. But no, definitely telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some there's some articles about me online. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a Twitter account where I post pictures of it,

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<v Speaker 1>of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the hell do I find this article?

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<v Speaker 1>So let me send you something. I'll send you a link, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Send text okay, texted to me, texted to me. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>send it to me on the DM because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>look at I don't I can't find that ship I

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<v Speaker 2>got you. I mean, actually I can't. I send it

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<v Speaker 2>on either one. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this one's quite funny. I'll stinger this now, rip

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<v Speaker 1>my phone bill, let's see. Okay, all right, I'm to

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to send you a few Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go. YouTuber Lord Miles says he is willing

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<v Speaker 2>to pay Isis one hundred thousand pounds if they can

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<v Speaker 2>take him out in England.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I got threatened by ISIS. So I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of put a bounty on my head and for eight

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<v Speaker 1>months I had like a cold storage white like like

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<v Speaker 1>some physical bitcoin around my neck to the value of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred cane. I just walked around. So if Isis

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<v Speaker 1>could kill me, yeah, they could just take the bounty.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't. Bitches. You know, they kind of ruined

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<v Speaker 1>my haliday sometimes. And yeah, they threatened me in Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just keep threatening them back. And whilst I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Taliban jail, I got to slap one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other story the yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you? Oh yeah, here's okay, here's a bb

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<v Speaker 2>there's a BBC article h four British men freed after

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<v Speaker 2>Afghanistan detention. Oh fuck, yeah, dude, you're insane. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know a lot of people are probably listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this thinking that you're no, you're yeah, you're real. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you want see some selfish in me in jail? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some of what you want, but I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>more interested in talking to you, Okay, Yeah, Like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a picture Miles, like, I say, your last name

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<v Speaker 2>previously said he traveled to Afghanistan because he enjoyed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, you went to fucking yeah, you totally are

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<v Speaker 2>not lying to me. You went to Taliban jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it happens the best.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, why did why how did you end

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<v Speaker 2>up in Taliban jail?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, so it's leged allegedly I was weapons feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I was apparently allegedly buying up weapons from the Taliban

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<v Speaker 1>and selling them to Ukraine. But you know, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence I went through a bit. But also there were

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<v Speaker 1>there were three other British men and they were basically

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<v Speaker 1>all spies, and I stayed at the same hotel as one.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Taliban put two and two together and thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this British guy, this Miles guy, I might be a spy.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I was starting a gold mine in the

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<v Speaker 1>country and I didn't have a permit to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain region, so I got in trouble. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the I is real recognized as real. And

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<v Speaker 1>then about month and dinto my imprisonment, they start like

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<v Speaker 1>treating me like royalty. It's quite nice, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually I treated like the networking events and they led

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<v Speaker 1>me like even my guards were told. I was told

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<v Speaker 1>by the commander that my guards were now my servants.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would actually give them some money, so I

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<v Speaker 1>call cash on me. I would give them me for

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<v Speaker 1>my prison cell, and they would bring me anything I want.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had like my gaming laptop without internet access

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and I would just sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>chill and play video games like my guards. The photo

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<v Speaker 1>I send you on Instagram, my guards let me have

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<v Speaker 1>one of their weapons and I chase them around the

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<v Speaker 1>compounds with their own weapon, and they were screaming like

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<v Speaker 1>little girls. And to be honest, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a lad's harday, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Miles, Yeah, so I mean to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to what you were saying initially, there's really no way

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to be able to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with a normal person without them getting freaked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's kind of my fear. You know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I how do I kind of channel this into

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<v Speaker 1>a normal career. You know, it's just some wording unkey use.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just perhaps never talk about him? Live a

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<v Speaker 1>double life? Almost?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you channel this into your normal career.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, I just can't relate to normal people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sure you can't. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>weird Europe? You have a weird existence. I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen. I don't know how you got there. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're thinking. But I also but Miles,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe what's the thing. What's the Jesus thing about?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that? You can't there's nowhere too far? You can't

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<v Speaker 2>come go? You can come home? Yeah, I believe you

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<v Speaker 2>can come. You can come home, you can. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to be a normal I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's up with you, Miles. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to just be like a normal guy? Like you

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<v Speaker 2>go to like, listen, here's the thing. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. And I just fully believe you because

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<v Speaker 2>a I've been a version of you, not like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't really want to hang out with the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know what. I'm not going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about that, but uh, you know, yeah whatever

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<v Speaker 2>doing weird stuff. And then like I've also met people

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<v Speaker 2>like you have like whatever, but yeah, you see you

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<v Speaker 2>want to just what like what do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do with your life. I mean, you're a young guy, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you do you want to keep doing this

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<v Speaker 2>crazy crap or do you want to? Like what do

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I did plan a coup for long story, but

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<v Speaker 1>I even want to do very grand things all the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. I just want to I guess I want

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<v Speaker 1>to strike up a conversation with someone and then within

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<v Speaker 1>a few days they don't google my name and find

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<v Speaker 1>something weird, you know, so I'd have to create another identity,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, I can just lessen the impact of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. I don't know. I want. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to start new friendships without people fan

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<v Speaker 1>going over me, if that makes sense. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one sided double ways. I go to church

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, the people go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what'd you do this time? Oh tell me about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I go, oh, let me. Maybe you should tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about yourself sometime, like nonsense. My life is boring

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<v Speaker 1>and they just tell me about big songs about me

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<v Speaker 1>and increas a weird dynamic, you know, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you go out, when you go out, you tell

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<v Speaker 1>people you dress as a gecko. Right, Yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'll assume you actually no getto right. I don't know, however,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it kind of a I guess the normal

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<v Speaker 1>people that kind of creates a weird dynamic and either

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<v Speaker 1>they like you for money or fame or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at tension.

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<v Speaker 2>See what I mean, I know exactly what you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Uh, And I have a lot of thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on it is okay, like yeah, sure, Like I'll like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, like sure, I'll go out and talk

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<v Speaker 2>to people and then it'll come up that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go to interesting places as a gecko, and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll want to talk about it, and then like, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it for a little bit and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, what do you do? How's your life? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll start talking about that. I mean, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>just be a normal conversation. Can I ask you this

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<v Speaker 2>and be honest with asked? Just and it's okay, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, just there's no shame and no judgment. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you when you tell people? Because listen, you do a

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<v Speaker 2>thing and you know you do it. You did it

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<v Speaker 2>to me and I do a version of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you say to someone at a party or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, yeah, I sold I once sold Osama bin

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<v Speaker 2>Laden's car. Uh, They're gonna be like what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're gonna start telling them about all this

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<v Speaker 2>Taliban stuff and like listen, but at any point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have of course, they're gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions. At any point in time, you can just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, yeah, but what's going on with you? And

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<v Speaker 2>you can just not stop you stop talking about it

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<v Speaker 2>if they want. You can let them lead if they

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about it, but eventually they're gonna not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, you listen, you have an infinite

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<v Speaker 2>amount of crazy uh stuff that you can talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you don't, if that's not what I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>and look, correct me if I'm tell me it, be honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>do you secretly like it? It's okay if you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a body who you are. But do you like being

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<v Speaker 2>do you like the attention?

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<v Speaker 1>I do to some degree, though you know, it only

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<v Speaker 1>goes so far as that makes sense, and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it kind of yo yos. You know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like sometimes it's like it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if it's a if. It's like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a handsome person, I guess people talk to you and

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<v Speaker 1>you like the intention, and then you wonder do people

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<v Speaker 1>actually like you for you or just for the nice face.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, like, for example, I made some new friends once,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we're hanging out for like two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>on and off and always good in the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what I do. I just evaded to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then suddenly, when uber I'm a front seat to

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<v Speaker 1>bear of him back, I get a phone call from

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<v Speaker 1>like the head of foreign intelligence of the Taliban of

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<v Speaker 1>the GDI, and it's like on a FaceTime call and

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<v Speaker 1>he just sts chatting to me. He's dressed in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a robe and everything he ever, he has like an

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<v Speaker 1>ak in a video. He's speaking to me, and I forget,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the people behind me don't know what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I speak to him for two minutes. I look

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<v Speaker 1>backwards and then mortified, and then the friends you're bended.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's unavoidable, you know, Okay, Well, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I can't excuse the long absences either, Like where'd you

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<v Speaker 1>go for the last three months? Oh? Just abroad doing

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<v Speaker 1>what where's the photos. It's like, ah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like being a retarded spider man almost. You know,

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 1>everyone thinks should something else? You know you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But but okay, so now, well now we're on a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different things, right, because if you're telling here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, and it sounds like I don't have okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like I don't have to explain to you

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<v Speaker 2>why working for the Taliban might make it difficult for

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<v Speaker 2>you to make friends with normal people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, but you're telling me.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're telling me. You're telling me that you would

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<v Speaker 2>like to live a normal life. So listen, if you

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 2>want to live a normal life, you're probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to give up working for the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shucks, but you already knew that. I guess, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. But it's like, I guess that's a w

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I guess. Oh, you just help me realize something.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's my entire density at this point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to I need to create a new thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, though, I like you see him. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I I it's so funny because I'm like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking. I'm looking at these articles you sent me,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not lying to me. You're telling me the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you one hundred There's a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like, what's who's Epstein without the island? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, but okay, let me level with you on this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you clearly are a little insane, thank you, and you

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<v Speaker 2>like doing insane stuff. But can I can I introduce

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<v Speaker 2>you to the possibility that you can still do grand, insane,

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<v Speaker 2>weird uh stuff that you feel excited to talk to

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 2>other people about that makes you feel like you're living

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<v Speaker 2>a grand, adventurous life that doesn't involve working for the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I mean I did. I did kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have a stint in Ukraine and that was good. Everyone

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.959
<v Speaker 1>gave me positive reception for that. You know when you

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<v Speaker 1>tell when you when you mentioned like normal people at

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<v Speaker 1>your friends with Taliban, you know it kind of it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't You don't usually get positive reaction, you know, you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What were you doing? I was also just in Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 2>What were you doing in Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I shouldn't admit this, screw it? Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Ukraine as the war begun, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>faked a press pass, so I basically got my university lanyard,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I went in MS Paints and I created

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<v Speaker 1>this terrible like press pass and I printed out on

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<v Speaker 1>like black and white paper, glued it with Elmo glue

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<v Speaker 1>over my university lanyard, and then just like put it

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<v Speaker 1>on a lanyard around my neck. And then I would

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<v Speaker 1>go near the front lines or checkpoints and it's flash

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<v Speaker 1>it and I dress apart and it was the early

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.959
<v Speaker 1>days of the war, so they just didn't care, so

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>he just let me through. And I like streamed most

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<v Speaker 1>of this too, and I ended up being in the

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<v Speaker 1>front lines of the war and my car broke down

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<v Speaker 1>during curfew, so I'm walking around. I get ambushed and

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<v Speaker 1>then I joined this random unit. We're going through a school,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hiding I guess. We basically get bombarded with

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<v Speaker 1>I guess artillery. I school collapsed on top of us

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<v Speaker 1>when we're in the basement. I walked through the underground

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<v Speaker 1>rail network in Karkiff to get back to the city

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<v Speaker 1>and then I, yeah Cargiff and then I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Polands. We buy a second car and then we

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<v Speaker 1>just drive food aid in and then drive refugees out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that got positive reception. I'm trying good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you joined you joined a random I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>you joined a random unit of Ukrainians.

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<v Speaker 1>Or just for like a few nights, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was I didn't know. I didn't I was just trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to clarify which which society you

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<v Speaker 2>were fighting on.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been advited to Russia, but I've got to be honest.

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't trust him. You know, I'm not really Russian

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm sure you have. I'm sure you have. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm sure like I mean yeah, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>you were basically like a volunteer soldier on the side

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 2>of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I could think it's a friend that actually joined

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the Ukrainian Army. So his name's Will and he's British.

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>He's in the front lines and he's killed like thirty

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>five Russians. He works as a drone part and he

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>just sends me like you know, like you know, when

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you score on the Instagram reels he come across like

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>a live leak video. He creates his own. Basically, he

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>just sends me footage of him like drawing striking Russians,

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think, why have I created? You know, so,

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>even in the goodness of my heart, when I was

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 1>doing good, charitable things, it basically created twenty five murders.

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I understand it's war, but like I think I'm kind

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of responsible for that.

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Miles, I'm gonna bring I'm gonna let's really myles, I'm

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna really back in. Okay, Yeah, So, and you know

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>what I don't I've I've I've confirmed that you're telling

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>me the truth. And I'm gonna also assume that you're

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 2>genuinely asking me to work this, work through this, like.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>What what what should I do for a lifestyle?

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, you're clearly addicted tom to quote the lot

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 2>to quote a line from the Grand Theft Auto five trailer,

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>You're clearly addicted to chaos. And I think there are

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 2>way if you you're clearly addicted to chaos, which is

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 2>not an inherently bad thing. I am also clearly addicted

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>to chaos in a lot of ways, and it's made

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>a lot of normal life things hard for me. And

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I've tried to find and I've actually gotten pretty good

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>at figuring out how to structure my life in such

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 2>a way that I can feed my desires for chaos

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 2>but also live some my own version of a conventional

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 2>normal life. I think that you should find ways to

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>feed your desire for chaos that like, you know, hey, listen,

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I think work for the Taliban is probably a bad idea.

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably a bad idea.

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, that's true. It kind of has playing

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.239
<v Speaker 1>me good money. But you know, I can just end

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it like that.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, but if it's mezing, I guess. But listen,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.719
<v Speaker 2>if it's made you good money, yeah, listen, here's the thing.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 2>If you've been doing this and it's made you good

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>money and you're out, it's You're like, it's like being

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>a fucking gangster man. It's like, it's like you're out.

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 2>If you're out of the game, you get out of

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>the game alive, right, And now you're like, and now

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm hearing from you is both this thing of

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>a I want to I mean, I don't know if

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing this few, but I'm gona assume it from you.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like a I want to devote my life to

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 2>things that are more ethical, uh, and then be I

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>want to devote my life to like I just want

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 2>to be like a normal ass guy with like a

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and friends who's not like, uh, you know, scaring

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>people away by telling them that I'm working for the Taliban,

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And I think you can

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 2>do those two things. And I think and I think

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that if you take your money right and you're like,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 2>all right, let me just stay right there, and then

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you go, Okay, well, how can I use my capital

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 2>now to do things that are ethical and nice and

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>also like set me up for some sort of normal existence.

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of creative answers to those questions,

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and like, listen, man, there's all sorts of like there's

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of great adventures out there for you to

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>have that don't involve working for the Taliban. And then

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>also if you want to like go fucking you know,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>decide what your base city is, right, Like you want

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 2>to just live in Birmingham and have friends and like

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>go to the bar. You don't want to live in

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>or move to London moved to go find like a

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>community of people somewhere. Go join a community of people somewhere, Like,

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>go go somewhere where you can like, uh, fuck it, like,

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>what do you like to do? Man? You like playing

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>video game? Like like, okay, I clearly listen, you clearly

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>like doing a bunch of crazy insane shit, But like,

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>what do you like doing? That's normal? You like playing

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>video games? What else?

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 1>Because I like, I played four Nice Little Bits Wolst

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in Saudi Arabia recently. I like reading books, I like

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>going to coffee shops and just I guess, just doom

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>scrolling a little bit. Okay, Oh god, I actually have

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>no real hobbies. Oh god, what kind of du No?

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>No, you kind of do? You have no video games? Yeah?

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>You like you like traveling, I guess.

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But like, that's a white woman in the early twenties

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram thing, you know what I mean?

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but also yeah, but you're also white

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>in your twenties doing it. It's okay, it's okay.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I'm a basic like woman.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>No, that's true, and so it's gonna be a basic

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>white way. Why is it?

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Why?

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Why are replacing We're placing judgment values on things for

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>no reason? Can I tell you something? Because here's the

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>thing I'm sure you've interacted, like, because listen, do you

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>feel the way I listen, I'm trying to like approach

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you because I'm being I'm being like, I'm trying to

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>be really genuine ingenuous with you because I believe you,

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and I believe that you're like I believe you're making

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a genuine appeal. And so there's been plenty of times

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>right when you're talking, because you said you seem like

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you're placing a lot of value judgments on things. There's

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.479
<v Speaker 2>plenty of times where you're like talking to some lady

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and she's looking at you like this guy is like insane,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and you're looking at her like she's basic, and it's

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 2>like just drop everything and just exist, you know what

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like take away the fucking the the veils

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>of everything for like a second here and just exist.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>What do you want to do? It's okay to travel

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and run around and be like, oh, I want to

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>connect with people. I want to have weird novel experiences

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>that are interesting to talk about. There's like ethical, productive,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>safe ways to do that that won't leave you with

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>this life that makes you be like, oh, I'm like

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>this weird, like Pariah e crazy, I have no ground.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>You gotta you gotta like you can you can live

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>that life, but do it on the foundation of something

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>that like just grounds you into fucking reality, because it

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>sounds like you've just been in in outer space for

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty much all of your adult life, you know. And

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and and I kind of know a little bit, but

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I've never worked for the Taliban, but I I I

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of know a little bit what that feels like,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>you know. So just just.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Just a lot of overlap with being a geck go,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I get that.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Little but like, just you know, I believe. I believe

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>that you can create a life where you feel grounded

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>and as if you can connect with other people, but

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>can also feed your chaotic desires in a way that

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>is not destructive to yourself and society.

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I did have one project, and you know, the legacy

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>means a lot to me. I want people to hopefully

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>remember me one day. And the positive thing is not

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>just being friends with itally birds, you know. And I've

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to start my own country, and I have

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh why not, you know, I mean, you know, I

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>don't I think it's possible, but also you know, I

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>just think I just think it has to end a disaster,

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. Wow, Well, I think it always happens to

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>some degree, Like I started a goal mine in Afghanistan.

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Eight months jail, I go to Saudi Arabia. I spent

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>three months there, you know, because they suspect on a terrorists.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Long long story, you know. See, things just seem to follow.

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So what I was considering is, you know that Haiti

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>is in a state of like borganization right now, a

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>bunch of civil wars due to different terroristic factions fighting

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>each other and capitalizing one another and eating children as such.

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Right maybe I don't know, I don't sure, I don't know.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the state. Well, there's an island of north

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>called Tortica, and you might know if from prior to

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean, and it had a population of like ten

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand people, and they want separation from rest of Haiti.

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>It's got a bunch of oil up north, and it

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>has the highest deposits of iridium on the mainland, So

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of yummy minerals. And I'm thinking, I mean

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>speaking to some of these people through Airbnb and some

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>contacts I have on the island, and I think with

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen million dollars, I can create a coup on

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the island and basically install new government and declare independence

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>because all the factions on the mainland are constantly fighting,

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I need to raise a little bit more money. But yeah, you.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Said, you didd fifteen million dollars total.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's to sustain a population of two thousand foreigners,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>so American, Europeans, whatever, in order to defend the island

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>against any attack and also build enough infrastructure to be

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>self sustaining within two years roughly.

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 2>So what you would do is you would go to

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 2>to what is this call I don't called Tortuga.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Tortiga, Tortilla. So if you look on a map of Haiti,

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty miles in length roughly up north from Haiti,

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>like a tiny, low sliver of an island, you know.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean you look at a British Virgin Islands saying

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>hits neighbors.

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a little yeah, it's a bit of okay, see

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you So okay. So you're telling me that there's a

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch of people on the island of Tortiga that want

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>independence from Haiti, and you're thinking about going down there, uh,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 2>gathering enough money to start a coup and basically starting

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>a war of independence from the island of Uh Tortiga

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>against uh, the Haitian government, and I basically you would

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 2>head that revolution and then uh hopefully in your plan,

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 2>you would win and then declare a new country. That's

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.240
<v Speaker 2>that's your project.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Basically as you do. Well, okay, here's the thing. There's

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>no there's no guns on the actual island itself. It's

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>not even got a police station. So you need to

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>fund in that area.

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to fund the independence war yourself. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>that'll yeah, yeah, I think that'll. I think that'll scare

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.479
<v Speaker 2>the hose for sure, if you if that's your new plan,

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 2>if that if that's what you were talking about not

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>wanting to do.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, but then do the hose even have I

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>guess a a an option, because you know, if I'm

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a world leader on an island, if I quite loosely

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>am part of the UN or own a micronation, I

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>think that's your I think I think they'll scare many hose,

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>but also many hoses like that.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>In general. As a genuine question. Yeah, first of all,

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I still one hundred sent believe you that this is

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>a project to think about doing, and I also believe

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 2>you probably are You could probably figure out how to

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:55.479
<v Speaker 2>get that money if you're hanging out. Uh, well but listen, listen, listen, listen. Yeah,

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you said you're already you're already independently, Well, you already

0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>have fifteen million dollars.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>No, a few million, but not fifteen million.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you could easily figure out how to raise

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that money.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Not easily, but I think it's worth exploring, and I

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's possible. You know, you hear people raising money

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>for some dumb fuck app on social media, and you know,

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>becoming a five hundred million dollar business withalue of launching.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like countries make money.

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Are you afraid of dying? Though? Like, if you do this,

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you might get like killed.

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>This is going to sound, it's going to sound a

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit messed up, kind of excited forward to the

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>most I'm found of excited. I'm I'm quite religiously Christian,

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 1>So I believe if I die, if I've done things correctly,

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>if I pray enough engineer repent, I go to heaven. Right,

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>So I've got to be honest. I'm just tired, man,

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit tired. You know, I've been in

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>prisoned a few times. I actually have no criminal record, bizarrely,

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, dealing with these people from the Taliban

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to the North Koreans to Ukrainians and everything in between.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And you know, again he shot out a few times

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and so on, you kind of to get a bit

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>worn out. And of course, you know, I guess if

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you part of the army, you have, you know, someone

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>directing you, so you kind of just follow instructions. But

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I have to do everything as I go, and then obviously,

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's obviously a bit lonely again.

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, of course.

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the city and I literally hear the voices

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Taliban sometimes walking down the street, and if

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I start speaking back to them in that language, they

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>look bewildered. And I can't see to a normal person

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the I'm a white person, a British person who I

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>could relate to. And then some of my friends are

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>just friends of me because I have money and they're

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>just lady bumps. I've got to be honest. And then

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I when I meet my girlfriend's parents,

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that's gonna be tough too. And sometimes, you know,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole lifestyle obviously will damage relationships. When I went

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>to prison, Babe in Taliban jail, kind of ended one

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>my relationships, you know, And I don't blame her, because

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, if your boyfriend's Taliban jail, it's kind of

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a kind of tough to maintain a relationship. Taliban actually

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.959
<v Speaker 1>offered conjugal visits, but I said, no, that's a bit weird,

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. But yeah, it's a bit of a weird

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 1>dynamic create Miles.

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Miles, Yeah, if I are you can I ask you, Cassie,

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 2>if he thinks one is are you are you? Are

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>you actually open to any perspective I might offer you

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 2>on this. I'm gonna offer, but I'm curious I could

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>genuinely I I'm gonna assume you mean that genuinely.

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 1>No, genuinely, I wouldn't be calling you if I wouldn't

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>waste your time, basically.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, Miles. I believe that if you're like going

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 2>out to the front line, I mean, if you're going

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 2>out to the front lines of Ukraine and you're like

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 2>doing all this up with the Taliban, I believe, first

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 2>of all, I believe you. I believe that all this

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>stuff happens. I believe that you have a thing in

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you that, uh, whether it's because of your disposition or

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>because of your religion or whatever. I believe you have

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 2>something in you that's really tired and doesn't care if

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you die. And I believe that if you really wanted to,

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you could totally figure out a way to go down

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to the island of Tortuga and fund an independent military

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>coup against the government and start your own country, and

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 2>that you might totally get kidnapped or die in the

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 2>process of doing that. Like I don't, I really don't

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 2>think you're fucking with me. And I just want to

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>say to you because you like, I feel like the

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>fact that you're calling me and asking me for advice

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 2>on this means some part within you doesn't want to

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 2>die or doesn't want to like like that you you're

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>just tired, and you're just like, fuck, man, my life

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>has been so fucking weird and I can't relate to

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.760
<v Speaker 2>anybody because if I talk to anybody about this stuff,

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>like it's I just feel insane, Like there's just my

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>life has just been so fucking weird that there's no

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 2>place for me anymore. So the only option that I

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 2>have is to do this other grand, insane thing that

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 2>might result in my death. And like, listen, man, you

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>could do that, but like me personally, I would enjoy

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>seeing the version of Lord Miles that lives to his thirties, forties, fifties,

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>sixties and seventies, having found a way to channel his

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>energy into something where you can still be a businessman

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and you can still do things that are exciting but

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 2>not fucking die or challenge dangerous government's head on. You know, Like,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I just don't want you to like do a bunch

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>of reckless shit just because you don't care about your life,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>like like I think you do. I think you do

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>care about your life, you know.

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you know, I've had some friends for

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>three or four years and they haven't said anything like that,

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and they haven't had as much respective that you have.

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 1>You've honestly told me things that you know I could

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>articulate mentally, but that makes perfect sense. And honestly, you

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>give me better a boce and a lot of people

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I've known for many years. You are great and it's

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>why I called you.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yeah, of course, man.

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's just like I just think, like you're

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 4>twenty six, man, Like there's there's whatever the fuck your

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 4>life has been so far, there's something after it I

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 4>mean it'll be really you know, I mean, like.

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Like listen, I've I've maybe it's because I went to you.

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I did not I have not been to the front

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 2>lines of Ukraine and I've not been to Afghanistan. But

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.479
<v Speaker 2>like I've like you're but like, you know, whatever, I've

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 2>met people, I've read things like nothing you're saying is

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 2>like what There's no way that any of that could

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 2>possibly be true? Like we live in an insane universe,

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's maybe hard for uh people to

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 2>grasp that, and it's going to be hard for people

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 2>to grasp that for you. But I think if you

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 2>just like kind of approach the rest of your life

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like humbly, you know, you there's there's there is life

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>beyond whatever your life has been, uh thus far, you

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>just have to kind of find of, Yes, you have

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>a girlfriend.

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, she's wonderful. She's she's ansty great she so

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>she basically just DMed me. I've got a little bit

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of a following. She DM me and we've just been

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>talking ever since. She's very sweet. I don't want to

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>go too much detail. There's some weird people out there

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that might try and you know, doc her or something.

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>But she's just she's just wonderful. I talk about her

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>for hours. She's she's anaty, the best. I want to

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>give her everything, and you know, I just want children someday,

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>sooner rather than later. I want to get married. I

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>want to give her cute little things I want to do,

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, boyfriend and girlfriend stuff together. You know, I

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>just want to make her happy basically, And you know,

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.919
<v Speaker 1>she kind of likes this stuff, and I don't want

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to die obviously for her. Yeah, Email, I have that

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling that you described. It's like, I'm not I'm not

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, walking on landmines to see if they go off.

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've got some preservation amongst myself. But sometimes

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of think, you know, if I if

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I get shot out, be okay, you know.

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And I like, can I do you want to be

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>anonymous on here? Because I know you do have a file.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean people can probably find you. He's I mean,

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 2>we said your name.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Trust me, they people know me. It's all good, all right?

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 2>So can I say what your thing is?

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>My my ex? Or no?

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, you're a YouTube channel and shit.

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah sure, yeah, yeah, okay, so.

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>You're lord miles. Yeah, okay, yeah, you have a you

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 2>have a Wikipedia page.

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean when I was a kid, I thought,

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, Wikipedia page also official. But it just kind

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of happened one day. You know, do you have a

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia page?

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I did not have a Wikipedia page.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Someone making a Wikipedia page. This happened. Yeah, I've got

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to be honest. When I was in Taliban jail, I

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>had I had some Internet access, so there was an

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>unsecured Wi Fi hotspot nearby on this laptop. I remember

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>distinctly downloading on your podcast as an MP free file

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and listening to it, and like, that's how. That's how

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you. Like, I respect what you do a lot,

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're very funny and actually genuinely helpful to a

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people. You know, there's been some clips moments

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>out there. No, it's okay, the Taliban Gecko Alliance.

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I don't know. I'm gonna push

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 2>back on Taliban Gecko alliance.

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>For legal reasons, not true, true, for a lot of reasons.

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>But but I will say, listen, but I believe you,

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 2>and you're coming to your I think you're making a

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 2>genuine I believe everything you're saying emotionally as well, and so.

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Like a conflicting feelings.

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, dude, like, okay, you you wrote a book,

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you're doing okay, dude, why don't you like dude, I

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 2>feel like, okay when yeah, you have a following online,

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you're doing all this stuff, Like, dude, you could go

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you could go straight pretty easy. I think you know

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Like, I like, I see like you

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>love your Okay, you love your Let's hold sorry I

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 2>got distracted a little bit. All right, so your girlfriend.

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I think I got distracted. I wanted to bring you

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>up because I did want people. I think a lot

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>of people are going to think that you're working with me.

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 2>And then but this is a real conversation.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I promise, Yeah I know you're not. I

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>can then prove if you.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Need I I already I already I know, I already

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I already know. But okay, so you love your girlfriend,

0:47:55.920 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>she's great. Yeah okay, and and you and I but yeah,

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and uh, could you see yourself just having like a

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 2>normal fucking life where you're like a family man and

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 2>like you know, I'm kids.

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Would yeah, I would have to be doing something, but

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. It might be I know, yeah, there

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>has been something because I guess in a few years

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>if I, if I want to, I'll never have to

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>work again if I just you know, like for example,

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>next thing is I'm going to sell a few tanks.

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Long story, but you know I've got time and money

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>at that point, right, and so I need to occupy

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>my time.

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you have three million dollars.

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say the exact amount, but it's

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount.

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, why can't Yeah, I mean you can, like you

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>can let you. I thought, do you not already have

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 2>enough money? I mean you're not like retire in style,

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 2>but is that not enough money already?

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>That?

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Like do you need to be selling tanks and ship like? Like?

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I feel like, imagine, imagine you

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>had something similar like that in the nineteen seventies, right,

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>not three million, but equivalent, you know, and then all

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the hyperinflation happened. You know how she used to be

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what ten thousand dollars? And then you know, all these

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 1>years later, you know what made you rich in nineteen seventies,

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It's really tough you'd be rich in twenty fifty twenty five.

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>That sort of money and then market crutches.

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I did some moss.

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:31.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Now now I know, I know, I know that your

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I know that your current financial plan is to buy

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and sell tanks. But have you ever heard of something

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>called foreign and domestic index funds?

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, the Y s and P five hundred.

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I could, dude, just like, Dude, Miles, just

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 3>take the money that you've made, put it in fucking

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 3>index funds and then go like do just dude, do

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 3>like just get like I get it that you like,

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I get it that like selling tanks makes your dick hard,

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 3>But like, why can't like what I refuse to believe?

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, what I believe. What I believe is that A,

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 2>you're clearly in some form of like strong disturbance over

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the way that you your current lifestyle is subconsciously. So

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you're what, You're in some form of disturbed. I mean

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you you wouldn't be we wouldn't be having this conversation

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 2>if it were in fact that you're you're in some

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>form of disturbance or some kind of mental uh no, no, no,

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>uh cognitive dissonance. You're in some form of cognitive dissonance.

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I look at people I look at I look

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>at people working sixty hours a week barely gain by.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you sell tanks? You know what I mean?

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>It would be in a lot better financial position.

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what, you know? Sure, sure, but selling tanks

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to literally mean selling tanks, like you, there's

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot I.

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Mean I'm taking yeah, but I'm taking tanks away from

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the Taliban. I mean, you know, it's kind of a

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>good thing, I guess, you know, if you kind of

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>anti Taliban, and they're not they're not modern times like

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 1>World War one wants. It's just some collector in the

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>US would like get hot on for it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But like like if you're three million dollars, but

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 3>like buy a fucking laundromat.

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Dude, like you have, what do you want to do

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 2>with all this here? Let me ask you this, Let

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>me ask you this, what kind of because here's the thing, right,

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>you can you can if you if you really want

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 2>to go and like get yourself into even more crazy

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>trouble for money, like whatever, but like what do you

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>want to do with this money? Dude? Like like you

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 2>must have an idea because retirement you must have an

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>idea before you want to like go do all this

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 2>crazy stuff and like make a You have to have

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.959
<v Speaker 2>an idea of like what you actually want your life

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 2>data day to look like. Right, And then you might

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 2>find that whatever that life is does not require you

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 2>to like need ten million fucking dollars, right, Like you

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 2>might just be like you might be like, oh, I

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 2>want to fucking go to like a some nice suburb

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 2>of England and buy a house and live with my

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and have kids and like whatever. And you might

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 2>find like, oh, actually, not only do I not need

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>ten twenty million dollars from selling tanks to live this lifestyle,

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 2>but actually the actions and the behaviors that go into

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle that selling fucking tanks for the Taliban requires

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 2>me to live actually takes me very far away from

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle I actually want to live, were I to

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 2>sit down and think of it. And then you're doing

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 2>this like weird circumventation where you're like spending time doing

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of crazy shit to make money to fund

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:16.800
<v Speaker 2>a lifestyle that you could just be living. Like skip

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:18.839
<v Speaker 2>the middleman, dude, Like just what do you what life

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 2>do you.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Want to live? I've got to be honest, I have

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a nice apartment. I'm just renting. If I own a property,

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.439
<v Speaker 1>it means I have to pay income task and don't

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>pay income tax a moment. But I'm kind of minimalist.

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually sleep on the floor like a pillow and

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a quilt. I don't really need money to be I

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 1>guess contempt. I would like a nice environment, like a

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like a nice desk or something, okay, But so then

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't really need I think I'm just gaining money

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of money. I used to be Yeah,

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 1>you're you're very poor. Yeah, I group like on I

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>guess the equivalent to welfare it's benefits of the UK.

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And I was. I was so poor I couldn't afford

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like a DS. I really wanted a DS as a kid.

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I never got one, like an attendo DS, and and

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 1>then I was homeless eighteen. It was a crappy family situation.

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm just one monthly for that security

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense, that mental security. But you already

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 1>have it, you know, I just.

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 2>It just but also yeah, but also.

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Like you also have to like like nothing's free, you

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like, like what security are you

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 3>giving up by doing this crazy stuff.

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a good point. I mean I've almost

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>been like mock mock executed like a few times. Yeah, dude,

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. But also at the same time, like, despite

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>me almost being executed, I never felt more alive. I

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 1>think I'm an adrenaline junkie.

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're probably you're a dreas Listen, I'm zero.

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I feel like I'm a version of

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:06.320
<v Speaker 2>an adrenaline junkie. I'm definitely not to your level of

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>an adrenaline junkie, but I I I sympathize with the

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the feeling and I'm telling you And by the way, dude,

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>you're kind of like it's like a it's like Walter White.

0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen Breaking.

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Bed Well, I'm boldings.

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Barth White. It's like if it's like

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole the whole show. He keeps going, I'm doing

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.360
<v Speaker 2>this for the family. I'm selling meth for the family.

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm selling it for the family. And at the very end, Skyler,

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 2>his wife is like quit saying you're doing it for

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 2>the family. He goes, he goes, he goes, no, I'm

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 2>not he goes, I did it for me. I did

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it because I like you're doing it because you're addicted

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 2>to the adrenaline of the thing. And I and what

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is, I see in you a guy who

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:56.399
<v Speaker 2>wants to live.

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I see it.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.479
<v Speaker 2>I see in you like half a guy who doesn't

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 2>give a shit if he dies because of uh the

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the whatever the fuck thing. I see within you a

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 2>guy who doesn't give a shit if he dies, but

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 2>also a guy who really wants to uh live. You know,

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 2>you're capable of uh loving your girlfriend, You're capable of

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 2>uh wanting to just like a desire for new and

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 2>novel experiences. I guess I understand that it's hard if

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 2>you've uh lived this insane life that you've lived, to

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 2>uh find pleasure and enjoyment in things that don't involve

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 2>you almost getting fucking executed. I I know, I know,

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:44.479
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know how that feels. But I think

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I refuse to believe that you have sentenced yourself forever

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to a life where you must put yourself in uh

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 2>an insane amount of danger to feel normal. If I don't,

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't have I don't have the It's gonna take,

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna take a longer process than just like this

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 2>phone call to figure out what that lifestyle would look like.

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 2>But I just I just refuse to believe that you're

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 2>now like sentenced to a life where you need to

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking overthrow the government of Haiti to feel normal.

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does seem like a problem. Yeah, I guess,

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I kind of guess the people around

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>me keep egging me on a little bit, and they

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of course.

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I just I like the idea of these things, Like

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>if if some it's all made a movie about I

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 1>think it would be like a like an aesthetic and

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense like a post nati to download. But

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>also it's actually I do acknowledge it is retarded, like

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a really stupid, dangerous lifestyle. But like I think there's

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a few easier ways to make a few million dollars,

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like there's some easier way

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to do this.

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's listen, you're already like way do I feel

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like people do that? Like, okay, listen, like just take

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the money you already have and like just do something

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that's less uh you know.

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought about I did by you.

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go ahead.

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, I basically wanted to start this a podcast, like

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>do you know this? Like, for example, I just want

0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to go to I guess I want to go to

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>these interesting countries, right, like the same reason you went

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to Iraq. And instead of like doing this dangerous business

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>when I almost get executed, I just want to sit

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>down with I guess, dangerous but interesting people, just a

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 1>normal conversation, and I guess to a podcast. Like there's

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>this one guy who's called General but naked in Liberia

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and he was a cannibal and I've been meshing on WhatsApp.

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>He seems kind of you and I become a Christian.

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>He's repented and he's doing some good stuff. Now you know,

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously what he did eating children's heart, that's a bit

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>messed up. But you know, he wants to he wants

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to meet up with me, and he's a fan of me,

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think like he could be the first podcast

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>guy for me, you know, but he can just I

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>can go there. I get my cameraman, we film like

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a two hour conversation. We get some clippers to clip

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, some good editing, some good lighting, and

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think if I do bad cross several other countries,

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like I've got this one North Korean diplomat in the

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>EU who's interested, And I don't know, do you think

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a good middle ground? I don't or not.

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I actually know exactly who you're talking about, because he

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 2>have you ever seen the Book of Mormon? Not a musical, no,

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 2>that music in the book. There's a character in the

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Book of Mormon called General but fucking Naked, who's based

0:59:57.320 --> 1:00:00.080
<v Speaker 2>off of General butt Nake. I've heard of this guy before.

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, what do I think about that?

1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would because I think you can go

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to any country and not have problems just as a

1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:16.680
<v Speaker 1>quick taurus like I've seen white women go to like

1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Somalia and Libya that you just don't arrive in like

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 1>instantly die or something.

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Yea, there, I mean you here's the thing. I'd be

1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a hypocrite if I told you to like completely stop right,

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 2>because I uh, I'm I also have a bit of

1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 2>a bug of like, uh, I mean, I don't. I

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:39.880
<v Speaker 2>don't try to go out of my way to talk

1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to dangerous people. I just try to talk to fucking whoever.

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:49.280
<v Speaker 2>But I think I just think you should like not

1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:52.960
<v Speaker 2>try not to get too in over your head and

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.560
<v Speaker 2>try not to do things with this idea of like

1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck if I die or not.

1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 2>You know know, Fuck, it's hard for me to dude,

1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 2>it's honestly so hard for me to have this conversation

1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 2>with you just because like I I mean, I I'm

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm nowhere near I don't like, I'm not into like

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:13.479
<v Speaker 2>crazy hardcore ship. But I also I've had the same

1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:17.160
<v Speaker 2>like conversations with my friends before, like going to Iraq

1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 2>or Ukraine where they're like I mean, but also like

1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I but I but I'm I'm not

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.840
<v Speaker 2>as hard like I. I wouldn't go to the front

1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:25.560
<v Speaker 2>lines of Ukraine, you know, I went to Kiev.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like, yeah, you have common sense? Yeah, once again

1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 1>though real recognize is real?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me ask you this though, Let me ask

1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you this, yea, just because do you have do you

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about just your normal life? Like

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<v Speaker 2>do you you have friends? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's it's a close knit so called don't

1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:53.919
<v Speaker 1>makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are these friends? Like do they and you said that.

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<v Speaker 1>They are well.

1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Like like literally two.

1:02:03.280 --> 1:02:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Of them, Like what do you know? Two of them?

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I make up I make up thirty percent of the

1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Afghan Tourism Ministry. So I do a bunch of tours there.

1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Two I just charge people like free k ahead to

1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:15.680
<v Speaker 1>bring them to Afghanistan in groups of ten or so.

1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:18.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I met a few of them and

1:02:18.880 --> 1:02:21.400
<v Speaker 1>they're like minded and we just kept in contact afterwards.

1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:26.280
<v Speaker 1>That's good. And I've got one friend who who is

1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:29.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to start an airline, like a shipping freight service.

1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:34.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's kind of crazy too. He it's it's really bizarre,

1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Like he's even crazy in me in many ways. I

1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:40.120
<v Speaker 1>just like I kind of admire it to some degree,

1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but it also scares me. Like, for example, I was

1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:46.520
<v Speaker 1>into Saudi Arabia under investigation. I was like arrested there

1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:50.439
<v Speaker 1>and I was under surveillance clearly. But he walks into

1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a Starbucks in Saudi Arabia and just goes, oh, hello, hh,

1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:57.880
<v Speaker 1>can I have the Hitler coffee? And they would just

1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:00.560
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, yeah, sure because they're not English speaker natively,

1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and they'll just give him his coffee. But he just

1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:06.000
<v Speaker 1>does that in public situations friend of anyone. He just

1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:10.040
<v Speaker 1>he's a definition of going the hose. It's a really

1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:14.560
<v Speaker 1>good friendship. Like he would just walk into any retail store,

1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:19.400
<v Speaker 1>cafe if it's England, America, he lives in Australia or

1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.080
<v Speaker 1>even Saudi Arabia, like it happened with us, and he

1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>would just walk in and go hello, h h you

1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:27.800
<v Speaker 1>know it's central Ohio and he would go can I

1:03:27.880 --> 1:03:31.640
<v Speaker 1>have the Hitler cappuccino? And they just wouldn't even look up,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll go, yeah, okay, there'll be two dollars and

1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you'll pay okay, And he.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that everywhere. Yeah, it sounds like you have It

1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:43.480
<v Speaker 2>sounds like your social circle is full of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys who like are like edgy people who like

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<v Speaker 2>to provoke yeah and think okay. So yeah, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like your social circle is filled with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>like edge people who like to provoke. And I it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to take a gander and say that

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<v Speaker 2>when you say some shit like I'm thinking about starting

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<v Speaker 2>a a coup in Haiti, that the friend of yours

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<v Speaker 2>who's going around, you know, saying like fucking like doing

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff, I get the sense that that

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<v Speaker 2>friend is not going to respond to you by going hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>what what would be best for miles? I assume he

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<v Speaker 2>is going to respond to you by being like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds awesome. Yes, please create further destructure please whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know this this does not seem like a person.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I listen, I don't know this dude, but

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<v Speaker 2>it strikes me that his modest operendi is provocation more

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<v Speaker 2>than it is like like you, like you got to

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<v Speaker 2>surround yourself with people who I could give a fuck about,

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<v Speaker 2>like you and your well being, not just like what's

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<v Speaker 2>to do? So are like egging each other on to

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<v Speaker 2>like do crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of start on with that whole thing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I got back to my apartments a

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<v Speaker 1>few months after my birthday, I found, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>item was meant to be delivered to my house. I

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<v Speaker 1>called up the shipping people. They delivered it because I

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<v Speaker 1>was in to receive it, and it was a coffin.

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<v Speaker 1>And I basically messaged the group chat saying, I just

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<v Speaker 1>see the coffin in the mail whatstairs It's a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my friends joked that he sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a coffin because he's like, oh, most likely or die

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<v Speaker 1>soon by you know, your efforts, So you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>thought it be funny to send you on ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And they bought. It was like super duper funny, but

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of just said that. I cofin for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also slept in it because again it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more comfortable than the floor. It had padding,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, huh, you know, you know I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think my friends. Uh, I a super caring type.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why I really my girlfriend. She's very sweet and caring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend sent me a coffin. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guy who the guy who goes around talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Hitler. He doesn't sound like the sweetest guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot I can't say about him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll tell you privately someday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, let me Yeah, okay, what's your what's your

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<v Speaker 2>relationship like with your parents? Your family at least like

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<v Speaker 2>you got like do you have any.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, it's gonna be very telling. Oh, very I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hope this want to come up. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have kids, you know, I want to I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be open, you know, I'll be honest

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<v Speaker 1>because what's the find of you know, not being honest

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<v Speaker 1>with therapist, right, because you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, by the way, I'm not a real therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, you know that next thing, next thing, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. You know, getko, you're crazy. But anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an IVS kid, so you know, I I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>my real father. You know, no record, no DNA tests. Whyever,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no laws where I can find out. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>completely anonymous donation, right. And then my mother, she she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the best. She had some sort of depression, some

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<v Speaker 1>anger disorders. So I was basically and also an alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was left to my own devices most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I was a very goody two shoes kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was a kid who you said, all the

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<v Speaker 1>homework and do the extra stuff, and you know I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a straight a goodie too, too goody

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<v Speaker 1>two shoes students like never never like never got detention,

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<v Speaker 1>only Tupe I got into. I denied the Holocaust once.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story. But and then suddenly I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>get to eighteen years old, and you know, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>so many incidents when and the police because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's quitelishly a crazy alcoholic. So at the age of eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I secretly apply to university. I get in and and

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<v Speaker 1>I just leave them the middle of the night when

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<v Speaker 1>she's drunk, sleeping on the SETTI and I just walk out.

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<v Speaker 1>I put my keys through the letterbox, I throw my

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<v Speaker 1>SIM card away. Her new one in changed my email,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, never contacted her since she got my

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<v Speaker 1>numbers somehow. I don't know how she managed to, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I never answered. I just got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>drunken voice messages for out the years, and then one

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<v Speaker 1>day they just stopped as well. And then the last

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<v Speaker 1>voice message I heard from her that she was living

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<v Speaker 1>with my auntie who's also an alcoholic, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>almost homeless too. But my idea was, seems like not

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<v Speaker 1>the best person. You know, still my mother, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the best, but also you know, I can't fix that.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the same time, if she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>help herself at the age of like seventy in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, I'm I'm sorry I didn't catch it. So your

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<v Speaker 2>mom was so you were an IVF baby as and

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<v Speaker 2>like your mom had you like as a single mom.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in she's in relationship with a man, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that man went to China for business and then

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<v Speaker 1>he got hit by a bus and died. So she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting on to like forty years old. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted a baby, so she went through IVS and

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<v Speaker 1>then she had me. And at a time it was

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<v Speaker 1>free because it was like the nineties, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a semi new technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you never had you never had paid for it,

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<v Speaker 2>You never had a father. No, Okay, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a siblings or anyone? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, well from a DNA test, tennically two half sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know them. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>know them. It's just on a piece of paperwork basically.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's no way to contact them. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just me. I'm a Taliban. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel, you know what, it's funny. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not funny, but but it's like, I mean, that's a

1:10:16.800 --> 1:10:20.680
<v Speaker 2>class that's like a classic story. I mean, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>people join like terrorist groups and gangs. Is like they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've never thought of it like that. That's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a unique perspective, or maybe a common sense perspective. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just, yeah, I see, Well, I don't. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the Taliban or anythink. I'm a strict Catholic. I

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<v Speaker 1>even I even get into like religious debates with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just see the country has high barriers to entry

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<v Speaker 1>because none is stupid enough stupidsiness there and yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know they're ever ruling people there, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>So so okay, and then what's your all right? All right?

1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Miles miles, miles miles, Yes, ye do you want do

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<v Speaker 2>you want my advice?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess I've been giving you advice, all righty, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Be honest with me, be honest, okay, if you if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to be honest with okay, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be brutally honest with you, I think that, Okay, My

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<v Speaker 2>my perspective is, I think you are surrounding yourself with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like like Edgy four Channey, right wing provocateur,

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy people who probably don't have your like best

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<v Speaker 2>interests in mind, and that's probably rubbing off on you.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're probably attracted to this because it's like after

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<v Speaker 2>a lifetime of like not having like fitting in anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you've found the place that you can fit in

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<v Speaker 2>among like the Taliban or among this crowd. And like

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that crowd and that these things are

1:12:15.680 --> 1:12:18.400
<v Speaker 2>just like leading you down a life where you're making

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<v Speaker 2>more destructive decisions, and you clearly wouldn't be like talking.

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<v Speaker 2>We wouldn't be having this conversation for so long if

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't in some period of reflection as to whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not these decisions were the best decisions for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I kind of think that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>way I believe, I don't know what exactly it is,

1:12:46.360 --> 1:12:50.600
<v Speaker 2>but there's probably a way for you to ay, most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>find a community of people who actually have your best

1:12:56.880 --> 1:13:03.040
<v Speaker 2>interests in mind. Dude, you're Christian, Yeah, dude, go join

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<v Speaker 2>join a church, like seriously, go join Go join like

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<v Speaker 2>a normal ass church. You should go join a normal

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<v Speaker 2>ass You should find a place where you should find

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<v Speaker 2>a place in the world that you want to live,

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to have a family, that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to have friends, that you want to have a community.

1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Find a place in the world that you want to live.

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<v Speaker 2>Go join a church, not a crazy ass church, just

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<v Speaker 2>a normal church. Where twenty six year in New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at some fucking I did. I My friend

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<v Speaker 2>took me there because she's a member. I just went randomly,

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<v Speaker 2>the Movement Church or some whatever. There's all these churches

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<v Speaker 2>where there's like people our age, just hanging out being normal. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll it'll be an adjustment for you for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. But like, just find a fucking church where

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<v Speaker 2>you can just like be around like regular ass people

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<v Speaker 2>and be a part of a community, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>well do that and then like see if you can

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<v Speaker 2>make friends with people and find a community where you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like people have people really have your back and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not just like around you because you are are

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<v Speaker 2>are also a provocateur on the level that they are

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<v Speaker 2>like you. Just you want to find your real friends, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's that's what's going to help you make good

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<v Speaker 2>just better decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So go to a small town, join a

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<v Speaker 1>church with young people, and then it's well, I'm a town,

1:14:39.280 --> 1:14:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a village guy. I would to go

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<v Speaker 1>to London. That's dangerous, but yeah, I guess, go to

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of institutions, local businesses, become regular, strike up conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, be a regular somewhere it just

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<v Speaker 2>and just be and then just like to try to

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy just being annoy normal fucking guy. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy it about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it sounds insane, but I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>doing so many projects and at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just I just can't slow down, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes perfect sense. You don't have to, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>know you don't You don't have to abandon your projects,

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<v Speaker 2>but you definitely need some balance, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 2>just but like you got to find some balance, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can still like like if you really want

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking do like your your your wild uh form

1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:43.960
<v Speaker 2>of journalism, I'd be a hypocrite to tell you not to,

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<v Speaker 2>but I I can tell you. I'd be hypocrites to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you not to. But I'm telling you from experience

1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:55.040
<v Speaker 2>that you need to find a balance to it because

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<v Speaker 2>you're because you can't. Just like I went to Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I came back and I'm like in New

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<v Speaker 2>York and I have a community of people, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>have a normal I have a version of normal life

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<v Speaker 2>to plant my feet on the ground, and I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do that really intentionally.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what I tell you. How do you find

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<v Speaker 1>a balance? Like how did you like hang up the

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<v Speaker 1>mask when you get home?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I joined the I joined the coworking space

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<v Speaker 2>in New York that I go to to like edit

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<v Speaker 2>videos and stuff, and I made a bunch of friends there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, so like find you should find your version

1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:31.040
<v Speaker 2>of like a community, just something where people don't know

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<v Speaker 2>you as like Lord Miles the crazy YouTuber. They just

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<v Speaker 2>know you as Miles and you're just like some You're

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<v Speaker 2>just like a guy, you know, and like it's I

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<v Speaker 2>I I bring up church because church is where I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of is. Seems like it if you

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<v Speaker 2>told me you played pickleball, I tell you to join

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<v Speaker 2>a pickleball place. But like just find I'm but just

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<v Speaker 2>like and then like and then like on the side,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like when on the side you can go

1:16:58.200 --> 1:17:00.760
<v Speaker 2>on your crazy missions. But like, if all you're doing

1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:03.880
<v Speaker 2>is these crazy missions, you're just you're just gonna fling

1:17:04.000 --> 1:17:06.559
<v Speaker 2>yourself into outer space so far that your head's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be spinning around and you won't know where to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look, and it's just it's it's just too much, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. I guess I should band it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what I'll do is I'll move to a community.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always in the country, but I'll try and stick

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit more, and then what I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>is I'll also do the podcast, I guess, because that

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to transition to something else. If that makes sense, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm still giving myself enough, I guess all

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<v Speaker 1>they adrenine the bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Also like the yea like the also the like the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are around you, like walking around trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find every reason to like piss other people off, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they're your boys. It's like you got to really

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<v Speaker 2>take a second to evaluate and go like, is this

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<v Speaker 2>person is being around this guy like leading me closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the life I want, like to I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>this is like you know what I mean, and and

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't have a scarcity mindset when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>other people, Like there's there's there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>on the planet that you haven't met that will change

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<v Speaker 2>your perspective and add to your life. So if this

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, if the if the people around you who

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<v Speaker 2>are like sending you a coffin and like joking about

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<v Speaker 2>you dying and like all this shit, like like like

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<v Speaker 2>take a second to evaluate if those are the folks

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<v Speaker 2>you that'll kind of get you to where you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be in life?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, true it was a nice coffin, but

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<v Speaker 1>not right now. There was one friend she kept. She

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<v Speaker 1>basically kept like crying on the phone sometimes and cried

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<v Speaker 1>once when we met up, and she was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>worried about me, saying, oh, you know, I'm Mooragine's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you? So on and so forth. And I

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<v Speaker 1>used to always think that she was trying to hold

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<v Speaker 1>me back a little bit, or she just didn't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's very poor herself, and you know, life hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gone too well for her, and she's making her own

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes that I recognize, but for some reason she arms.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I realized she's actually probably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few people that care. And she's said the same things

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<v Speaker 1>that you've said. Yeah, but I didn't listen to it

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<v Speaker 1>because she's not a wise getter. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, i'd be a hypocrite to tell you to stop

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<v Speaker 2>going on your crazy adventures because I also going crazy adventures,

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<v Speaker 2>but like have some common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess this goal has been a crazy adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh well, Miles, Miles, thanks, thanks, thanks for being honest

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<v Speaker 2>with me, Thanks for being vulnari, thanks for putting yourself

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<v Speaker 2>out there. I appreciate it. I hope you end up

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<v Speaker 2>doing you know, something that feel makes you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a normal human?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not not talaban or terrorist dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's too much. That's too much good, it's too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that begins with getting rid of some of

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<v Speaker 1>our weird sessions. Uh. Unrelated though, do you have the

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<v Speaker 1>PEO box?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a po box, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Send me, send me, send me a random address. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna send you, send me to say thank you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not something illegal, I guess to host gaming.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll think about it, man, I'll think about it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll think about it. Is there anything else you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, just live love laugh. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of my famous quotes. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know what I was I could say.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I think of I think I've said too much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite a right. No, I just oncely, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you actually actually a very good counselor

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<v Speaker 1>very good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you, Miles. I appreciate you. Man. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a good rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I will do God bless you, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care man. That was Miles, That was That was

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<v Speaker 2>definitely one of the more wild conversations that we have

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<v Speaker 2>had in a Therapy Gecko history. But I I used

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<v Speaker 2>I stand by I stand by it. I stand by it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, I hope Miles makes good decisions. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I like going on crazy I'm not. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do business with the Taliban or interview cannibals or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. But I like, I like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going on crazy adventures and stuff and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>know what it feels like to get addicted to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you start being like I'm ready to die,

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<v Speaker 2>is is when things become too much. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>think you got to develop a form of normal life

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<v Speaker 2>to fall back on, because of all you have is

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<v Speaker 2>your craziness, you will feel like you are floating through

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<v Speaker 2>outer space. So I hope Miles makes the right decisions

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<v Speaker 2>and finds some form of peace for himself. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the line, taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes to ride. He's teaching you cloud in the of

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<v Speaker 3>your life, but he's not really an expert.