WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Thinking Out Loud 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.439 I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:13.320 the Bengals Booth podcast. The I'm Thinking out Loud addition, 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.400 as Anthony Tresh from Pro Football Focus shares his thoughts 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.520 and what the Bengal should do in free agency and 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.439 the draft, and I'll give you a little teaser his 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:28.280 plan does not include piney Sewell then after that, It's 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.960 something I've done before when hosting radio shows on WLW 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.720 called story Time with Dan, as I share an anecdote 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.640 for my broadcasting career, in this case a story involving 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.000 a Pro Football Hall of Famer who nearly caused me 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.720 to freeze to death. 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But forty three days 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.880 before the draft, the official start of free agency begins. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.000 That's a little more than a month away March seventeenth, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.520 and this week I reached out to Anthony Tresh from 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.200 Pro Football Focus dot com, who has strong opinions on 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:20.119 who the Bengal should sign, draft and not draft. Anthony, 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.600 you have written some interesting things about the Bengals in 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.680 recent weeks, and we are going to cover some of 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:29.320 those today, beginning with the comprehensive free agency preview that 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.919 you published at the beginning of this week for all 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.560 thirty two NFL teams, including top target in free agency, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.040 potential cuts, team needs, and your plan of action. I'm 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.360 going to begin by quoting you. You wrote, as great 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.560 of a prospect as Piney Sewell is, he should not 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:53.160 be in the Bengals plans this offseason. So Bengals fans, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.120 I'm sure would like you to explain why. Yeah, I mean, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.240 this is going to be a popular debate between now 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.040 and April. I mean we've already had it with a 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.760 lot of Bengals fans. But you know myself and a 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.040 lot of my colleagues here at PFF view that you 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.280 know the Cincinnati Bengals they have the cap space to 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.840 attack free agency in offensive line. I mean, there's some 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.920 quality offensive linemen out there that not a lot of 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.600 teams can afford because the cap, the salary cap is 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.520 probably gonna go down around ten to twenty million when 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.720 it's usually going up ten million. So there's a lot 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.120 of teams in a bad situation with the Bengals are 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.240 not one of them. They can afford these offensive linemen 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.640 and they're going to get quality play right away. And 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.560 then when you look at the NFL Draft and where 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.280 they're positioned. Penny School I mean, he's as sure as 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.760 a bet as they possibly are. But you look at 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.680 guys like Jamar Chase, who you know, we believe might 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.040 be the best non quarterback prospect you've ever seen in 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.800 that Chase Young type of category. From a wide receiver perspective, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.120 he's up there with Amari Cooper, Julio Jones. I mean, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:46.960 this guy has a chance to be an elite wide 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.400 receiver number one. And when you look at the Bengals 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.080 receiving unit, you know, Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd they're great, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.280 but they're more complimentary pieces. They're neither of them are 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.960 really going to be that elite wide receiver one. You know, 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.760 Jamar Chase has potential to do that. DeVonta Smith has 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.160 its potential to do that. Gamen Wattle does too. You know, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.200 in all three of those guys are gonna one of them, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.240 I mean, some form of those three will be the 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.520 available to Cincinnati at the fifth overall pick. And you 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.920 know they really should take one of those wide receivers 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.800 over Pinna soool. I mean, when you look at the 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.760 positional value, wide receivers just far more important than offensive 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.640 tackle in you know, like I said, Cincinnati really does 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.640 have the funds to make some moves. Whether it's a 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.279 guy like Taylor Moton the right tackle to Carolina, or 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.880 Joe Fiuniy a guard from New England. They can make 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.560 some power plays in free agency, and we think we 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.920 should They should do that at offensive line and then 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.680 go wide receiver in the NFL Draft. We're talking to 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:41.480 Anthony Trash from Pro Football Focus. Should they prioritize tackle 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.960 or guard if they do dive into free agency. I think, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.919 you know, the best option out there for them that 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.440 they can really afford would be Joe Funi. And you know, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.960 it's going to be interesting to see what kind of 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.799 direction the New England Patriots kind of go in this offseason, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.039 just because you know they're kind of flirting with going 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.760 into that quarterback purgatory realm that they do go that 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.039 to run round. I think they should kind of liquidate 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.080 their assets and kind of let everything go there. So 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.279 you know, I think they have the chance to kind 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.240 of outbid New England and you know, get him in 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.560 an uncomfortable spot and land Joe Tuni. But also, like 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.000 I said, Taylor Moton, he's another good option at tackle, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.880 So I don't don't think there's really a priority there. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.720 But I think out of all of the offensive line 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.360 that that's available, I think Funy if he does hit 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.599 the open market, I think that should probably be the 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.040 top priority because he is part away the best player 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.440 at his respective position that'll probably be available for him. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.080 So in a previous podcast, I had mentioned Brandon Schurf 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.120 is a possibility at guard. In your article about free agency, 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.480 you brought up Darryl Williams as a possibility at tackle. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.880 What about those guys? I would have loved to put 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.440 Brandon Schurf in there, but I think he's more likely 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.039 than not going to get paid by the Washington football team. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.640 I mean, they have a lot of cap space available 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.680 to him, so I do think that's what's going to 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.800 end up happening. The same with like Trip Williams. Even 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.480 though they have Joe and Williams a tackle, He's probably 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.880 gonna get paid by San Francisco. So I mean we're 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.720 just kind of, you know, kind of weeding out some 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.000 of these guys there. Darryl Williams, I think he's kind 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.719 of a less than ideal option at tackle just because 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.799 of what we you know, he was great this past season, 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.320 but in the years past not so much. So you know, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.000 I think, you know, if they can really get Taylor 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.960 Moton and Joe Theory, I mean, those are the top two, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.240 you know, that's the top guard and tackle likely to 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.000 hit the open market, with Schurf and Trent Williams not there, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.800 so I think those would be their best case scenarios. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.360 After that, you know, it would be Darryl Williams at tackle. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.840 And then when we're talking offensive guards, man, it gets 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.880 really really weak. You know, you had Matt Fyler there, 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.440 who has you know, experienced playing tackle and guard. But 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.680 even after that, I mean, we're looking at possible guys 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.240 like Jermaine Effettie, and we all know how inconsistent he 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.560 has been throughout his NFL career. So I mean, they 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.400 really should be hoping that a guy like Joe Dooney 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.360 hits the open market and then just throw the bag 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.799 at him because he's that's about the only quality option 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.760 they really have. We're talking to Anthony Trash from Pro 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.520 Football Focus. You can all them on Twitter at p 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:07.120 f F Underscore. Anthony. You also cover internal free agents 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.880 and your free agency guy. The Bengals have several the 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.120 top two guys on the list are undoubtedly will Jackson 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.760 and Carl Lawson. Who should the priority be? And it 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.800 has to be William Jackson just because of the positional value. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.320 And you know, I love Lawson. I think he's a 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.440 very good passenger. I mean he had you know, he's 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.800 almost a top ten pastor which are actually this past 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.880 year when when you look at our wins upove replacement metric, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.120 which is a very popular win in baseball, and our 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.480 data scientists, you know, they put their heads down, they 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.440 grinded out this formula and they came up with it. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:37.920 And props to him because it's one of the best 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.920 things I've ever seen someone do that I worked with, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.040 you know, a kind of measures positional value. We've really 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.280 found out some very interesting things with this. And you know, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.800 in the case of William Jackson versus Carl Lawson this 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.440 past season, both players had great years, but William Jackson 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.200 generated two and a half times more wins upove replacement. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.480 Think Carl Lawson, did you know it's just all about 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.680 coverage being more important than pass Russian I think you 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.920 know that what they really need to prioritize here, so 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.080 you know, when they're looking who to resign, you know, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.120 I think they need to go after William Jackson and 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.680 prioritize that over Carl Lawson, and then after I think 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.280 even before they look at Carl Lawson, they really need 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.720 to address the slot corners be just because, you know, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.640 but it's interesting, just because you know, there's a lot 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.240 of available slot corners on the open market, but they're 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.760 only going to get contracts, you know, annually worth about 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.480 four to five you know million per year, even though 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.440 they're one of the most valuable positions on the field. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.480 There's a lot of talented ones on the open market 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.440 and they can get a pretty good one too for 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.520 a very decent price. So, you know, I think those 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.319 are the kind of the two avenues they need to 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.319 go down before they even think about Carl Lawson as 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.200 much of a you know, a great player he is. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.160 Give us some slot corner names. First one that comes 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.480 to mind, Desmond King, you know, Troy Hill of the 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.040 Los Angeles Rams. I mean, these guys are out there too, 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.079 you know, McKinsey, Alexander, you know, he's not a bad option. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.920 You know, the LB. I think it's somewhere around of 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:58.199 the top eleven highest grade slot corners and coverage over 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.720 the last two seasons. Seven of those eleven are on 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.960 the open market this season. You know, Troy Hill, Like 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.240 I said, Desmond King, you know, they have Kawan Williams 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.760 as San Francisco corner too. I mean, there's gonna be 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.360 a lot of them available, and a lot of these 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.440 teams can't afford them. You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers too, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.240 with Mike Hilton Kim Sutton. There's going to be a 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.280 very good market for these guys, and I think they're 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.240 gonna be able to land a good one, just whether 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.240 or not they kind of capitalize on the opportunity. We're 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.360 talking to Anthony Trash from Pro Football Focus. You listed 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.200 as their top two priorities in your guide offensive line 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.600 and cornerback, and based on your Will Jackson versus Kyral 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.000 Lawson decision, I guess I can understand why you didn't 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.720 have defensive line listed as well. To me though, that 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.280 deserves to be right up there. Can they help themselves 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.640 in free agency, Yeah, I mean they certainly can, but 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.720 I don't think it's you know, a pressing need like 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.680 offensive lining corner is for them, just like I said, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.800 because of the positional value thing with it too, and 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.600 I would even put corner in, even wide receiver up 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.320 there ahead of offensive line. You know, even though, of 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.080 course the Bengals offensive line was one of the worst 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.160 in the NFL last season. You know, they do have 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.520 two good pieces there with Jonah Williams and Trey Hopkins. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.440 You know, if they make those couple of moves in 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.640 free agency like they can, you know, I think they 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.440 can have a pretty good lineup set up, you know, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.800 for the twenty twenty one season without pain a school. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.720 But you know, the past rush maybe needs a little 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.280 bit of help, especially if they can't bring back Coral Lawson, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.439 which I think they're going to end up doing anyway. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:25.760 You know, I still think, you know, you got to 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.160 attack the most important valuable positions and then kind of 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.880 fill in after the fact in the attack the less 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.560 valuable positions, you know, and get to that kind of 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.200 contingent status. But I don't think they're quite there yet. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.520 All right, let's turn to the draft with Anthony Trash 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.560 from Pro Football Focus. Jamar Chase is the ideal guy 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.920 in your opinion. Let's say he's gone. If he's not 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.199 there at number five, what would you do? Yeah, I mean, 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.520 still go wide receiver, you know, and this is a 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:57.360 very interesting debate that myself and our two other draft guys, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.760 Austin gil and Mike Grinner, I've had with them countless 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.800 time that they're big jail and Waddle over DeVonta Smith 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.800 guys barely. But I think I would prefer Davonta Smith 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.520 over jail and Waddle. And I think we're kind of 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.880 splitting hairs when comparing me too. It just kind of 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.760 picked your poison which kind of guy you want there? 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.400 You know, with DeVonta Smith, you know I would still 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.600 take him over Pini. Sooled the only concern is his size. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.719 His speed I think is going to be fine, and 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.760 I think some people are a little bit too concerned 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.760 about it. But you know, when looking at his comparisons 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.240 from an athleticism standpoint, in a frame standpoint, we've never 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.320 really seen a player like DeVonta Smith, you know, translates 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.640 to the NFL and have you know, great success. So 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.200 I think that's kind of the pushback on him. But 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:37.840 you know, you look on him out in the field 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.040 and you look at the tape. I mean, he does 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.800 everything in the position at an extremely high level, from 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.880 his route running, his release packages, ball skills especially. You know, 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.079 he is going to be, in my opinion, a very 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.520 good wide receiver at the NFL. And with Jaalen Waddle too. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.760 I mean, the guy has deep speed for days, and 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.400 he's going to immediately be a premier deep threat and 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.320 you know, Joe Brow could certainly use that. I mean 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.320 this past year, the deep ball was not good at all. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.160 I mean it was one of the worst in the NFL. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.040 But at the same time, you didn't really have a 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.640 lot of time to throw that off as a line 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.520 didn't help him. I think, you know, didn't really have 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.000 a lot of separators downfield. I think bringing in a guy, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.960 you know, whether that's Jail and Wilds, Mon Smith, Jamar Chase, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.760 I think any of those three could really help him 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.400 take that next step forward and really kind of put 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.960 him into that top ten, you know, type of quarterback 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.880 that he looks like he's going to become. If they 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:28.120 are unable to sign Taylor Molten or Daryl Williams, the 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.040 top two tackles you have listed at that point, would 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.120 you take pinnay Sewel. Don't not take a pin Suel 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.000 just because I mean, yeah, this is a I mean 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.520 the Bengals are in a really good position. You know, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.120 the fact that this tackle class is so loaded is 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.080 a big reason for that. I mean, I would have 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.400 to say, I mean this draft is kind of interesting 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.840 just because I think quarterbacks are very stack position. Wide 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.439 receivers a stack position, and so is tackle. But then 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.760 once out you look at any other position, it gets 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.199 very very bad. But you know, these are the positions 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.880 they kind of need to address, and you know, where 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.280 or picking in round two, there's going to be quality 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.800 tackles there available to them. You know, whether it's you know, 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.520 Leam Eichenberg of Notre Dame, Alex Leatherwood, He's he's going 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.200 to be slipping down there. Sam Cosmi of Texas is available. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.320 I mean, all of these guys are great options to have, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.440 and I think they can address that in round two. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.200 But the ideal scenario is, you know, kind of landing 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.360 an established one in free agency that can come in 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.640 right away. But even then, if they do land a 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.160 guy like Moton, take Jamarche safe. Fifth. Overall, I still 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.640 think taking a tackle in the second round is something 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.200 they should do, just because you know, the offensive line 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.000 was extremely bad. I think you just kind of keep 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.760 swinging there and I think you can find pretty good 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.199 value there. But in round one, I still think you 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.240 should take, you know, these elite level wide receiver prospects 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.559 as a chance to really, you know, be a true 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.679 elite wide receiver number one at the next level. Over 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.280 Penny School. We're talking to Anthony Trash from Pro Football Focus. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.760 I highly recommend his guide to free agency that he 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.280 published on Monday on the website. Another part of your 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.720 team by team analysis is potential cuts and for the 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.000 bank goals. The first two guys you have listed are 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.880 Geno Atkins and Bobby Hart. Are they no brainers in 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.959 your opinion? For guys to cut to create space? This 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.440 is always a tough one to gauge. I think Bobby 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.280 Hart certainly is. I mean, he has not been the 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.320 performer that you know many have been hoping for. UM. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.800 I would say he's probably the shirt shirts fire one. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.120 Do you know Atkins? You know, I think you know, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:23.720 he could still contribute at a high level, but he 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.080 does have a pretty fast salary UM, So you know, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.840 never say never with some of these guys on what 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.400 they could do. I think Giovanni Bernard and CJ who's 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.440 on I listed in there as well. Could be ones 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.880 that could get looked at. Um. But you know, the 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.120 Cincinnati Bengals are sent pretty well in cap space with 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.040 around you know, thirty seven projected. He's thirty seven million projected, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.480 if that salary cap is around one hundred and eighty 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.760 million has reported. Um. You know, in the promost teams, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.560 they would they have killed of being a position with that. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.000 So you know that they could be you know, willing 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.720 to bring some of these guys back and don't feel 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.120 like they have to cut him. But you know, those 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.960 four names are the ones that come to mind, Anthony. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.440 In addition to the Free agency Guide, you also recently 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.920 ranked all thirty two draft classes from last year and 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:06.200 ranked the Bengals twenty twenty class number one. What stood 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.000 out about last year's rookie class for the Bengals, Yeah, 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.000 I mean it's all about Joe Burrow and See Higgins. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.480 I mean that those are those two are the sole 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.240 reasons why they came in with that top sply I 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.960 had really had no one, nothing to do with any 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.640 any of the other guys they drafted after that, just 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.040 because Joe Burrow before he got hurt, I mean, he 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.840 was looking like he would have been our Rookie of 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.680 the Year. He was already one of the more valuable 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.960 quarterbacks in the NFL. And like I said, he didn't 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.800 really have the deep all there, but you look at 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.160 the stable factors, you know, from the clean pocket, what 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.520 was his you know, the negatively great throw rate on 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.520 those non deep passes, and he was up there was 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.040 some of the best in the NFL, you know, number 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.520 number one, number two, number three, and some of those categories, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.640 the most important categories at the quarterback position, so you know, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.920 you really don't typically see that from a rookie, and 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.880 that really generated his value. In two, I mean you 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.080 kind of you kind of got a free pass with 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.520 Joe Burrow there at number one, just because he's as 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.880 you know, as you never have a slam dunk with 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.800 the first overall pick, especially at quarterback. Joe Burrow was 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.240 looking like, you know, one of the surest picks at 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.040 the first overall that we've ever really seen. So we 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:07.480 knew that he was going to you know, kind of 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.160 conte contribute and produce his value above expectation like he did. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.000 And in two with te Higgins, I mean, this was 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.560 a home run pick for them. I personally was not 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.280 expecting him to pick te Higgins thirty third overall. You know, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.000 I expect him to go down some other avenues, but 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.880 I absolutely love the pick. It was probably, you know, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.560 one of my five favorite picks of the draft at 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.440 the time, just because you know, of the me that 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.640 wide receiver, and you know, I think he is going to, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.480 like I said, developed into a quality, complimentary piece. I mean, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.600 I really do like his ball skills. I thought he 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.120 improved too. You know, he was great at the catchpoint 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.280 at Clemson. He got better as the year progress and 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.640 ended up one of you know, one of the higher 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.560 graded rookie receivers in the NFL. Was actually the second 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.280 most valuable you know, second round pick of the twenty 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.840 twenty NFL Draft. So those two picks combined really produced 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.080 above expectation and really really put themselves into that number 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.560 one overall spot. And you know, kind of looking at that, 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.480 you know, it's kind of hard to wrape your head 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.600 around just because they hit these two picks. But you know, 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.960 this past year, we really didn't see too many rookie 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.040 performers had great seasons. I mean, you know, Justin Herbert 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.719 and you know, Justin Jefferson, Chase Young. They all had 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.200 great years, but when you're looking at the entire draft 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.680 class compared to other years, we didn't really see a 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:13.920 high rate of rookies kind of have success in your one, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.239 and you know COVID obviously I had an impact with that. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.800 So you know, having those two guys for Cincinnati, the 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.120 Higgins and Joe Burrow, really exceed expectations right away, even 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.520 though they did have locky expectations to start with, really 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.760 put them in that top spot. Who is the second 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.600 round pick that you had ranked higher than Tea Oh, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.920 I think it might have been Antoine Winfield. I think 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.159 it was him, if I recall correctly. I mean he 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.879 was another one that we thought, you know, I mentioned 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.119 earlier my five favorite picks in the NFL Draft. I 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.600 think he was probably up there too. I remember writing 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.080 an article about that, just because you know, we fought 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.399 him as a first round pick and he slipped to 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.040 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're up being a valuable piece 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.000 to him. So I'm pretty sure on the data in 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.720 front of me, but I'm pretty sure it was the 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.320 Antoine Winfield. If Burrow and Higgins were the biggest reasons 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.520 why the beggar Bengals had the number one half class 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.560 in your opinion, Did any of the other guys stand out? No, 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.520 not really unfortunately, But I mean there's still time just 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.520 because you look at the rookie year and it's very 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.919 it's not very predictive of future success. I mean we 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.840 typically see for most positions, the second year kind of 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.600 you get a better understanding of what kind of career 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.159 of a young player is going to have in the 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.120 long run. So it's way too early actually to call 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:27.920