1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The I'm Thinking out Loud addition, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: as Anthony Tresh from Pro Football Focus shares his thoughts 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: and what the Bengal should do in free agency and 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: the draft, and I'll give you a little teaser his 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: plan does not include piney Sewell then after that, It's 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: something I've done before when hosting radio shows on WLW 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: called story Time with Dan, as I share an anecdote 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: for my broadcasting career, in this case a story involving 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: a Pro Football Hall of Famer who nearly caused me 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: to freeze to death. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: by bud Light. 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But forty three days 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: before the draft, the official start of free agency begins. 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: That's a little more than a month away March seventeenth, 33 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: and this week I reached out to Anthony Tresh from 34 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus dot com, who has strong opinions on 35 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: who the Bengal should sign, draft and not draft. Anthony, 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: you have written some interesting things about the Bengals in 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: recent weeks, and we are going to cover some of 38 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: those today, beginning with the comprehensive free agency preview that 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: you published at the beginning of this week for all 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: thirty two NFL teams, including top target in free agency, 41 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: potential cuts, team needs, and your plan of action. I'm 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: going to begin by quoting you. You wrote, as great 43 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: of a prospect as Piney Sewell is, he should not 44 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: be in the Bengals plans this offseason. So Bengals fans, 45 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure would like you to explain why. Yeah, I mean, 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: this is going to be a popular debate between now 47 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: and April. I mean we've already had it with a 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: lot of Bengals fans. But you know myself and a 49 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: lot of my colleagues here at PFF view that you 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: know the Cincinnati Bengals they have the cap space to 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: attack free agency in offensive line. I mean, there's some 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: quality offensive linemen out there that not a lot of 53 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: teams can afford because the cap, the salary cap is 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: probably gonna go down around ten to twenty million when 55 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it's usually going up ten million. So there's a lot 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: of teams in a bad situation with the Bengals are 57 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: not one of them. They can afford these offensive linemen 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: and they're going to get quality play right away. And 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: then when you look at the NFL Draft and where 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: they're positioned. Penny School I mean, he's as sure as 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: a bet as they possibly are. But you look at 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: guys like Jamar Chase, who you know, we believe might 63 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: be the best non quarterback prospect you've ever seen in 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: that Chase Young type of category. From a wide receiver perspective, 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: he's up there with Amari Cooper, Julio Jones. I mean, 66 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: this guy has a chance to be an elite wide 67 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: receiver number one. And when you look at the Bengals 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: receiving unit, you know, Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd they're great, 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: but they're more complimentary pieces. They're neither of them are 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: really going to be that elite wide receiver one. You know, 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase has potential to do that. DeVonta Smith has 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: its potential to do that. Gamen Wattle does too. You know, 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: in all three of those guys are gonna one of them, 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, some form of those three will be the 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: available to Cincinnati at the fifth overall pick. And you 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: know they really should take one of those wide receivers 77 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: over Pinna soool. I mean, when you look at the 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: positional value, wide receivers just far more important than offensive 79 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: tackle in you know, like I said, Cincinnati really does 80 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: have the funds to make some moves. Whether it's a 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: guy like Taylor Moton the right tackle to Carolina, or 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Joe Fiuniy a guard from New England. They can make 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: some power plays in free agency, and we think we 84 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: should They should do that at offensive line and then 85 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: go wide receiver in the NFL Draft. We're talking to 86 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Trash from Pro Football Focus. Should they prioritize tackle 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: or guard if they do dive into free agency. I think, 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, the best option out there for them that 89 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: they can really afford would be Joe Funi. And you know, 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what kind of 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: direction the New England Patriots kind of go in this offseason, 92 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: just because you know they're kind of flirting with going 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: into that quarterback purgatory realm that they do go that 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: to run round. I think they should kind of liquidate 95 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: their assets and kind of let everything go there. So 96 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think they have the chance to kind 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: of outbid New England and you know, get him in 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: an uncomfortable spot and land Joe Tuni. But also, like 99 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I said, Taylor Moton, he's another good option at tackle, 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: So I don't don't think there's really a priority there. 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: But I think out of all of the offensive line 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: that that's available, I think Funy if he does hit 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: the open market, I think that should probably be the 104 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: top priority because he is part away the best player 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: at his respective position that'll probably be available for him. 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: So in a previous podcast, I had mentioned Brandon Schurf 107 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: is a possibility at guard. In your article about free agency, 108 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: you brought up Darryl Williams as a possibility at tackle. 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: What about those guys? I would have loved to put 110 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Schurf in there, but I think he's more likely 111 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: than not going to get paid by the Washington football team. 112 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of cap space available 113 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: to him, so I do think that's what's going to 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: end up happening. The same with like Trip Williams. Even 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: though they have Joe and Williams a tackle, He's probably 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna get paid by San Francisco. So I mean we're 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, kind of weeding out some 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: of these guys there. Darryl Williams, I think he's kind 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: of a less than ideal option at tackle just because 120 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: of what we you know, he was great this past season, 121 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: but in the years past not so much. So you know, 122 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if they can really get Taylor 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Moton and Joe Theory, I mean, those are the top two, 124 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's the top guard and tackle likely to 125 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: hit the open market, with Schurf and Trent Williams not there, 126 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: so I think those would be their best case scenarios. 127 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: After that, you know, it would be Darryl Williams at tackle. 128 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: And then when we're talking offensive guards, man, it gets 129 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: really really weak. You know, you had Matt Fyler there, 130 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: who has you know, experienced playing tackle and guard. But 131 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: even after that, I mean, we're looking at possible guys 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: like Jermaine Effettie, and we all know how inconsistent he 133 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: has been throughout his NFL career. So I mean, they 134 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: really should be hoping that a guy like Joe Dooney 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: hits the open market and then just throw the bag 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: at him because he's that's about the only quality option 137 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: they really have. We're talking to Anthony Trash from Pro 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Football Focus. You can all them on Twitter at p 139 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: f F Underscore. Anthony. You also cover internal free agents 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: and your free agency guy. The Bengals have several the 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: top two guys on the list are undoubtedly will Jackson 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: and Carl Lawson. Who should the priority be? And it 143 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: has to be William Jackson just because of the positional value. 144 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I love Lawson. I think he's a 145 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: very good passenger. I mean he had you know, he's 146 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: almost a top ten pastor which are actually this past 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: year when when you look at our wins upove replacement metric, 148 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: which is a very popular win in baseball, and our 149 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: data scientists, you know, they put their heads down, they 150 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: grinded out this formula and they came up with it. 151 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: And props to him because it's one of the best 152 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: things I've ever seen someone do that I worked with, 153 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, a kind of measures positional value. We've really 154 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: found out some very interesting things with this. And you know, 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: in the case of William Jackson versus Carl Lawson this 156 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: past season, both players had great years, but William Jackson 157 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: generated two and a half times more wins upove replacement. 158 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Think Carl Lawson, did you know it's just all about 159 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: coverage being more important than pass Russian I think you 160 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: know that what they really need to prioritize here, so 161 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, when they're looking who to resign, you know, 162 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I think they need to go after William Jackson and 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: prioritize that over Carl Lawson, and then after I think 164 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: even before they look at Carl Lawson, they really need 165 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: to address the slot corners be just because, you know, 166 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: but it's interesting, just because you know, there's a lot 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: of available slot corners on the open market, but they're 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: only going to get contracts, you know, annually worth about 169 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: four to five you know million per year, even though 170 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: they're one of the most valuable positions on the field. 171 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talented ones on the open market 172 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: and they can get a pretty good one too for 173 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: a very decent price. So, you know, I think those 174 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: are the kind of the two avenues they need to 175 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: go down before they even think about Carl Lawson as 176 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: much of a you know, a great player he is. 177 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Give us some slot corner names. First one that comes 178 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: to mind, Desmond King, you know, Troy Hill of the 179 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. I mean, these guys are out there too, 180 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: you know, McKinsey, Alexander, you know, he's not a bad option. 181 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, the LB. I think it's somewhere around of 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: the top eleven highest grade slot corners and coverage over 183 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Seven of those eleven are on 184 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: the open market this season. You know, Troy Hill, Like 185 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: I said, Desmond King, you know, they have Kawan Williams 186 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: as San Francisco corner too. I mean, there's gonna be 187 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot of them available, and a lot of these 188 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: teams can't afford them. You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers too, 189 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: with Mike Hilton Kim Sutton. There's going to be a 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: very good market for these guys, and I think they're 191 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna be able to land a good one, just whether 192 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: or not they kind of capitalize on the opportunity. We're 193 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: talking to Anthony Trash from Pro Football Focus. You listed 194 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: as their top two priorities in your guide offensive line 195 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: and cornerback, and based on your Will Jackson versus Kyral 196 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Lawson decision, I guess I can understand why you didn't 197 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: have defensive line listed as well. To me though, that 198 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: deserves to be right up there. Can they help themselves 199 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: in free agency, Yeah, I mean they certainly can, but 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, a pressing need like 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: offensive lining corner is for them, just like I said, 202 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: because of the positional value thing with it too, and 203 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I would even put corner in, even wide receiver up 204 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: there ahead of offensive line. You know, even though, of 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: course the Bengals offensive line was one of the worst 206 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL last season. You know, they do have 207 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: two good pieces there with Jonah Williams and Trey Hopkins. 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, if they make those couple of moves in 209 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: free agency like they can, you know, I think they 210 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: can have a pretty good lineup set up, you know, 211 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty one season without pain a school. 212 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: But you know, the past rush maybe needs a little 213 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: bit of help, especially if they can't bring back Coral Lawson, 214 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: which I think they're going to end up doing anyway. 215 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: You know, I still think, you know, you got to 216 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: attack the most important valuable positions and then kind of 217 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: fill in after the fact in the attack the less 218 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: valuable positions, you know, and get to that kind of 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: contingent status. But I don't think they're quite there yet. 220 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to the draft with Anthony Trash 221 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: from Pro Football Focus. Jamar Chase is the ideal guy 222 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: in your opinion. Let's say he's gone. If he's not 223 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: there at number five, what would you do? Yeah, I mean, 224 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: still go wide receiver, you know, and this is a 225 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: very interesting debate that myself and our two other draft guys, 226 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Austin gil and Mike Grinner, I've had with them countless 227 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: time that they're big jail and Waddle over DeVonta Smith 228 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: guys barely. But I think I would prefer Davonta Smith 229 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: over jail and Waddle. And I think we're kind of 230 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: splitting hairs when comparing me too. It just kind of 231 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: picked your poison which kind of guy you want there? 232 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: You know, with DeVonta Smith, you know I would still 233 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: take him over Pini. Sooled the only concern is his size. 234 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: His speed I think is going to be fine, and 235 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I think some people are a little bit too concerned 236 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: about it. But you know, when looking at his comparisons 237 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: from an athleticism standpoint, in a frame standpoint, we've never 238 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: really seen a player like DeVonta Smith, you know, translates 239 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: to the NFL and have you know, great success. So 240 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the pushback on him. But 241 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, you look on him out in the field 242 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and you look at the tape. I mean, he does 243 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: everything in the position at an extremely high level, from 244 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: his route running, his release packages, ball skills especially. You know, 245 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: he is going to be, in my opinion, a very 246 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: good wide receiver at the NFL. And with Jaalen Waddle too. 247 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has deep speed for days, and 248 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: he's going to immediately be a premier deep threat and 249 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Brow could certainly use that. I mean 250 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: this past year, the deep ball was not good at all. 251 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was one of the worst in the NFL. 252 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you didn't really have a 253 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: lot of time to throw that off as a line 254 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: didn't help him. I think, you know, didn't really have 255 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of separators downfield. I think bringing in a guy, 256 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, whether that's Jail and Wilds, Mon Smith, Jamar Chase, 257 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: I think any of those three could really help him 258 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: take that next step forward and really kind of put 259 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: him into that top ten, you know, type of quarterback 260 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: that he looks like he's going to become. If they 261 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: are unable to sign Taylor Molten or Daryl Williams, the 262 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: top two tackles you have listed at that point, would 263 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: you take pinnay Sewel. Don't not take a pin Suel 264 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: just because I mean, yeah, this is a I mean 265 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals are in a really good position. You know, 266 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the fact that this tackle class is so loaded is 267 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: a big reason for that. I mean, I would have 268 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: to say, I mean this draft is kind of interesting 269 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: just because I think quarterbacks are very stack position. Wide 270 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: receivers a stack position, and so is tackle. But then 271 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: once out you look at any other position, it gets 272 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: very very bad. But you know, these are the positions 273 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: they kind of need to address, and you know, where 274 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: or picking in round two, there's going to be quality 275 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: tackles there available to them. You know, whether it's you know, 276 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Leam Eichenberg of Notre Dame, Alex Leatherwood, He's he's going 277 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: to be slipping down there. Sam Cosmi of Texas is available. 278 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, all of these guys are great options to have, 279 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: and I think they can address that in round two. 280 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: But the ideal scenario is, you know, kind of landing 281 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: an established one in free agency that can come in 282 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: right away. But even then, if they do land a 283 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: guy like Moton, take Jamarche safe. Fifth. Overall, I still 284 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: think taking a tackle in the second round is something 285 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: they should do, just because you know, the offensive line 286 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: was extremely bad. I think you just kind of keep 287 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: swinging there and I think you can find pretty good 288 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: value there. But in round one, I still think you 289 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: should take, you know, these elite level wide receiver prospects 290 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: as a chance to really, you know, be a true 291 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: elite wide receiver number one at the next level. Over 292 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Penny School. We're talking to Anthony Trash from Pro Football Focus. 293 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I highly recommend his guide to free agency that he 294 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: published on Monday on the website. Another part of your 295 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: team by team analysis is potential cuts and for the 296 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: bank goals. The first two guys you have listed are 297 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: Geno Atkins and Bobby Hart. Are they no brainers in 298 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: your opinion? For guys to cut to create space? This 299 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: is always a tough one to gauge. I think Bobby 300 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Hart certainly is. I mean, he has not been the 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: performer that you know many have been hoping for. UM. 302 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: I would say he's probably the shirt shirts fire one. 303 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: Do you know Atkins? You know, I think you know, 304 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: he could still contribute at a high level, but he 305 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: does have a pretty fast salary UM, So you know, 306 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: never say never with some of these guys on what 307 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: they could do. I think Giovanni Bernard and CJ who's 308 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: on I listed in there as well. Could be ones 309 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: that could get looked at. Um. But you know, the 310 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals are sent pretty well in cap space with 311 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: around you know, thirty seven projected. He's thirty seven million projected, 312 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: if that salary cap is around one hundred and eighty 313 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: million has reported. Um. You know, in the promost teams, 314 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: they would they have killed of being a position with that. 315 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: So you know that they could be you know, willing 316 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: to bring some of these guys back and don't feel 317 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: like they have to cut him. But you know, those 318 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: four names are the ones that come to mind, Anthony. 319 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: In addition to the Free agency Guide, you also recently 320 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: ranked all thirty two draft classes from last year and 321 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: ranked the Bengals twenty twenty class number one. What stood 322 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: out about last year's rookie class for the Bengals, Yeah, 323 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's all about Joe Burrow and See Higgins. 324 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean that those are those two are the sole 325 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: reasons why they came in with that top sply I 326 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: had really had no one, nothing to do with any 327 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: any of the other guys they drafted after that, just 328 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow before he got hurt, I mean, he 329 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: was looking like he would have been our Rookie of 330 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: the Year. He was already one of the more valuable 331 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. And like I said, he didn't 332 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: really have the deep all there, but you look at 333 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: the stable factors, you know, from the clean pocket, what 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: was his you know, the negatively great throw rate on 335 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: those non deep passes, and he was up there was 336 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: some of the best in the NFL, you know, number 337 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: number one, number two, number three, and some of those categories, 338 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: the most important categories at the quarterback position, so you know, 339 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: you really don't typically see that from a rookie, and 340 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: that really generated his value. In two, I mean you 341 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of you kind of got a free pass with 342 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow there at number one, just because he's as 343 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, as you never have a slam dunk with 344 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: the first overall pick, especially at quarterback. Joe Burrow was 345 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: looking like, you know, one of the surest picks at 346 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: the first overall that we've ever really seen. So we 347 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: knew that he was going to you know, kind of 348 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: conte contribute and produce his value above expectation like he did. 349 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: And in two with te Higgins, I mean, this was 350 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: a home run pick for them. I personally was not 351 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: expecting him to pick te Higgins thirty third overall. You know, 352 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: I expect him to go down some other avenues, but 353 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: I absolutely love the pick. It was probably, you know, 354 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: one of my five favorite picks of the draft at 355 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: the time, just because you know, of the me that 356 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and you know, I think he is going to, 357 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: like I said, developed into a quality, complimentary piece. I mean, 358 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I really do like his ball skills. I thought he 359 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: improved too. You know, he was great at the catchpoint 360 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: at Clemson. He got better as the year progress and 361 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: ended up one of you know, one of the higher 362 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: graded rookie receivers in the NFL. Was actually the second 363 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: most valuable you know, second round pick of the twenty 364 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft. So those two picks combined really produced 365 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: above expectation and really really put themselves into that number 366 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: one overall spot. And you know, kind of looking at that, 367 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of hard to wrape your head 368 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: around just because they hit these two picks. But you know, 369 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: this past year, we really didn't see too many rookie 370 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: performers had great seasons. I mean, you know, Justin Herbert 371 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: and you know, Justin Jefferson, Chase Young. They all had 372 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: great years, but when you're looking at the entire draft 373 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: class compared to other years, we didn't really see a 374 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: high rate of rookies kind of have success in your one, 375 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: and you know COVID obviously I had an impact with that. 376 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: So you know, having those two guys for Cincinnati, the 377 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Higgins and Joe Burrow, really exceed expectations right away, even 378 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: though they did have locky expectations to start with, really 379 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: put them in that top spot. Who is the second 380 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: round pick that you had ranked higher than Tea Oh, 381 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: I think it might have been Antoine Winfield. I think 382 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: it was him, if I recall correctly. I mean he 383 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: was another one that we thought, you know, I mentioned 384 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: earlier my five favorite picks in the NFL Draft. I 385 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: think he was probably up there too. I remember writing 386 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: an article about that, just because you know, we fought 387 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: him as a first round pick and he slipped to 388 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're up being a valuable piece 389 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: to him. So I'm pretty sure on the data in 390 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: front of me, but I'm pretty sure it was the 391 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield. If Burrow and Higgins were the biggest reasons 392 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: why the beggar Bengals had the number one half class 393 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: in your opinion, Did any of the other guys stand out? No, 394 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: not really unfortunately, But I mean there's still time just 395 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: because you look at the rookie year and it's very 396 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: it's not very predictive of future success. I mean we 397 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: typically see for most positions, the second year kind of 398 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: you get a better understanding of what kind of career 399 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: of a young player is going to have in the 400 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: long run. So it's way too early actually to call 401 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: these guys. Any of these guys, you know, a bus 402 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: are not a good pick just because it's that pivotal 403 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: year two, and you know, I think after a year 404 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: two is a good time to come back and reflect, 405 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, on them. I want to get back to 406 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Burrow for a second, because by the traditional stats that 407 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: we've looked at for years and years and years, passer rating, 408 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: yards per attempt, things like that, Joe came in twenty 409 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: fourth and passer rating twenty fifth and yards per attempt. 410 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus had him graded much higher than that. 411 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: And you referred to some of the stable metrics, some 412 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: of the things that really project year to year to year. 413 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: Can you explain that a little bit better. When looking 414 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: at those stable factors, you really want to isolate quarterback 415 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: performance to clean pocket play, just because when you look 416 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: at you know, performance from a clean pocket versus in 417 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: a pressure pocket, you know, clean performance is way more 418 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: stable your year. In pressure performance that's way more volatible. 419 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: And that's an interesting thing with Justin Herbert, you know, 420 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: the other quarterback that had great success, the offensive rookie 421 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: of the year, just because he had a lot of 422 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: success when pressure that's not sustainable year to year. He 423 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: really was not that good from a clean pocket. So 424 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see regressing from him. But 425 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm guy going off into changent there. But with Joe Burrow, 426 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: he had the one of the lowest rates of quarterback 427 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: fault in completions from a clean pocket. I mean the 428 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: pinpoint accuracy that we saw at else Hu, we saw 429 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: routine lye with the Banls in his first ten games, 430 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: and I mean the fact that he still finished sixteenth 431 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: in war among quarterbacks despite missing you know, the second 432 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: half of the season is quite remarkable. So I mean, 433 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrow is you know, as good as 434 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: a rookie campaign that Justin Herbert and Justin Jefferson had 435 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 1: I still think Joe Burrow is going to be the 436 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: best rookie or the best player from the twenty twenty 437 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: one or twenty twenty NFL draft class. You'll by far. 438 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a star quarterback in 439 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: the NFL that is possibly gonna hopefully lead Cincinnati to 440 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. We'll see someday in the years to combat. 441 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: I think he's the real deal and he's going to 442 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: be a very special guy here for Cincinnati. I like 443 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the way you think. We're talking to Anthony Trash from 444 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. You also do a lot of college analysis. 445 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: You recently published your top ten returning quarterbacks in college football. 446 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: In addition, dude doing Bengals games, I broadcast University of 447 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati games. You did not have my guy, Desmond Ritter 448 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: in your top ten. Explain why? Yeah, I mean this 449 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: was the tough list to make up. You know, with 450 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, he obviously adds value with this mobility. The 451 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: tools are off the charts, and that's what kind of 452 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, we were looking at the twenty twenty one 453 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: NFL draft before he decided to come back. You know, 454 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: he was kind of getting that mid round considerate just 455 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: because he's a very potential base guy. Either the tools 456 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: are there, it becomes about something special. But we just 457 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: have not seen that from Desmond Ritter. I mean this 458 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: past year he had a sub seventy passing grade, which 459 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: was he did that too back in twenty nineteen, and 460 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: we were looking at those, like I mentioned earlier, the 461 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: stable factors, the clean pocket passing grade, and he was 462 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: just at the twenty fourth percentile in college football this 463 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: past season. The downfield, you know, accuracy was very shoddy. 464 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: He had a high rate of uncatchable throws. Great, he 465 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: really didn't put the ball on harm's way with his 466 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: downfield passing when he did pull the trigger down there. 467 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: But we just really didn't see him hit those throws 468 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: at an extremely high rate like we wanted to from 469 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: an accuracy standpoint, we didn't. And the negatively grade the 470 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: throw rate was another concern, not isolating those those true 471 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: dropback scenarios, taking away play actions, RPO screens, quick throws, 472 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: looking at throws from inside the pocket. The numbers just 473 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: weren't that great. Four Desmond Ritter. So you know, I 474 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: think Cincinnati's gonna have a great team next year. I 475 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: think they're going to be be one of the better 476 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: group of five teams again. You know, I love of 477 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: my Gardener, the cornerback. I think he's going to be 478 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: started at the NFL level eventually one day. But with 479 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, he did not crack the top ten, but 480 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: he is. He was in a conversation with some of 481 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: the guys here I will say about so you and 482 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: your colleagues at Pro Football Focus have been cranking out 483 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: mock drafts about one a week. Most recently, Mike Renner 484 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: has Jamar Chase going to the Bengals at number five. 485 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: The week before that, Ben Lindsley Jamar Chase going to 486 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals at number five, the week before that, Steve 487 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: Palazzolo Jamar Chase going to the Bengals at number five. 488 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: It seems like the gurus that you work with are 489 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: in lockstep that if he's there, that's the guy to 490 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: take to reunite with Joe Burrow. We're all in agreement 491 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: here and that that doesn't happen often the PFF headquarters here, 492 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, we really do think that's the 493 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: best fit for them. You know, with some of the 494 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: guys you mentioned, there, all of them, besides Mike. Grinner's 495 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: kind of you know what we would do if we 496 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: were in the shoes of the gym. But with Mike, 497 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: he's kind of trying to predict and really does think 498 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: that there's a good chance that they do reunite Joe 499 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: Burrow with Jamar Chase, just because looking back at that 500 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season, I mean, that was a special, very 501 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: special duo. You know, it's up there with one of 502 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: the best quarterback wide receiver duos we have ever seen 503 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: it in the history of college football. I mean, they 504 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: still hold the PFF college record for this is going 505 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: back seven seasons for the most deep passing touchdowns and 506 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: completions in a single year. I mean, it was just 507 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of record sat our record chattering across the board 508 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: from both of them. I mean, it was a very 509 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: elite connection in tandem, and in replicating that in Cincinnati, 510 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: I think they have a really good chance to do so. 511 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Just you know, given the projections that we have on 512 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: both guys, your projections for Piney Sewell are equally high. Really, 513 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: I mean, the last time he played a couple of 514 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: years ago, at the age of nineteen, I think he 515 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: had the highest PFF grade for an offensive tackle. This 516 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: is strictly a matter of position, importance and value. Basically, 517 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: when you are projecting Chase over Paul right, yeah, I 518 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: mean the Pinnasools player comparisons at the next level favorite 519 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: pretty well. Um if I recall correctly, his past protection 520 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: numbers are kind of project him on the path of 521 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: guys like David Pactiari intrumentally. I mean, it's going he's 522 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: going to be a very good offensive tackle, but it's 523 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: just all about you know, his maximum sealing him the 524 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: value he can generate is a little bit different than 525 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: what a guy like Jamar Chase can do for an offense. 526 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we do think Jamar Chase is a guy 527 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: that can put you know, the Bengals over a hump 528 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: from a versus Pennai suol Is. You know, he's not 529 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: going to be the guy that's going to add multiple 530 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: wins to a team just him alone. Jamar Chase has 531 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: the capability of doing that. Um. So it's just a 532 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: strict matter of you know, positional value. Pinna Soool is 533 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: a great, great player. He's going to be a great 534 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: NFL player if the Bengals do end up you know, 535 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: landing him. I wouldn't be you know, two matt or 536 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: upset if I were, you know, a Bengals fan that's 537 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of listening to PFF and listening to what they 538 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: have to say. Um. But I do think the right 539 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: decision at the end of the day is to take 540 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: one of those three wide receiver prospects, just because I mean, 541 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: they are three very good wide receiver prospects and any 542 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: other year they'd be in the conversation for wide receiver one. 543 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think these guys are kind of 544 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: can't miss too. So I do think because of the 545 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: positional value, that's the way you should leave. So I 546 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: am going to allow you to spend the Bengals money. 547 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: You have signed Taylor Moton and Joe Tuney as free agents. 548 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: You have resigned Will Jackson. You have drafted Jamar Chase 549 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: in the first round. So basically they followed your what 550 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: to do blueprint for this offseason. How good can the 551 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: Bengals be if they execute those moves? Are most of 552 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: those moves, I think they can be a playoff team. 553 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it's going to be tough, maybe next year and 554 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: year one, but I do think the year after that 555 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: I think that would put them in that, you know, 556 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: the very competitive team status. You know, their division is 557 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: a very interesting one, just because the Pittsburgh Steelers, I 558 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be very good next year. 559 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is clearly declining in their their cap situations 560 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: pretty bad as it is right now. But looking at 561 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Ravens, I mean these two teams, 562 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, Cleveland Browns are an offensive juggernaut in the 563 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: making of Baltimore Ravens are still there. So there, it's 564 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: going to be a very competitive division. And for that reason, 565 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure they would put themselves into put 566 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: out contention, you know, right away in your one, but 567 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, the year after, they would 568 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: definitely be up there with all this talent they have. 569 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: As I mentioned at the top, you've been putting out 570 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: some very interesting material about the Bengals in the entire 571 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: NFL of late. I've enjoyed reading it and looking at it. 572 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: Anything coming up in the near future that you're working 573 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: on that we can look forward to. We've got all 574 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: kinds of free agency stuff coming out in the coming days. 575 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: Have our most overrated underrated free agents. Be sure to 576 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: check that out over at PFF dot com. But the 577 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: biggest thing we have is our NFL Draft Guide. Our guy, 578 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: my Printer, who we've mentioned a few different times. I mean, 579 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: he was just absolutely grinding this thing out for the 580 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: last couple of months. I think we're at two hundred 581 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: and fifty player profiles with like three or four pages 582 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: of data and analysis, you know, advanced scouting reports in 583 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: there too, So it's only going to grow. I think 584 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: he might actually hitting three hundred sure if he's going 585 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: to sleep in the next couple of weeks. But yeah, 586 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: i'd be sure to check that out over at PF 587 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: dot com. It's available over there, Anthony, great stuff. Freely 588 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us today, of course, 589 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I downloaded the Pro Football Focus 590 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: Draft Guide yesterday, and it's impressive since the PFF guys 591 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: are so high on the idea of drafting LSU wide 592 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: receiver Jamar Chase. Here are a few nuggets about him 593 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: that I found interesting. Two years ago with Joe Brewit quarterback, 594 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Chase caught eighty four of the one hundred twenty one 595 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: passes thrown his way. That's sixty nine percent. But here's 596 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: what's really impressive. We're not talking about screens or easy completions. 597 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: The average distance of those passes was fourteen point three yards, 598 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: and furthermore, Chase averaged eight point one yards after the catch. 599 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: I have consistently been saying that if Piney Sewell is 600 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: on the board at number five, he should be the 601 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: Bengals first round pick. But I've to admit the gang 602 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: at Pro Football Focus has me reconsidering. The Bengals Booth 603 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and 604 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now time for 605 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: an installment of story Time with Dan. This is something 606 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: I started doing a few years ago when I hosted 607 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: sports talk on WLW Radio. And here's the concept. I've 608 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: been broadcasting in some way, shape or form since weaving 609 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: My Magic on the student radio station at Syracuse University. 610 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I've had a wide variety of wonderful experiences on and 611 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: off the air and some that weren't quite as wonderful. 612 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: And I'm about to share one this week in story 613 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Time with Dan. It's my OJ Simpson story. Here goes. 614 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that for many of you, Ken Anderson, Boome, Osiason, 615 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Chad John or AJ Green was your childhood sports hero, 616 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: especially if you're a die hard Bengals fan. Well, I 617 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: grew up a little bit south of Buffalo, and my 618 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: childhood sports hero was OJ Simpson. The first NFL game 619 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I ever attended in person was a Monday night game 620 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy three between the Bills and the Kansas 621 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. That night, OJ st an NFL record at 622 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: the time for carries in a game with thirty nine 623 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: and rushed for one hundred and fifty seven yards. It 624 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: put him over one thousand yards for the season, and 625 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: it was only Week seven that was the year that 626 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Oj became the first runner in NFL history to top 627 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: the two thousand yard mark, and he did it in 628 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: a fourteen game season. In any case, OJ Simpson was 629 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: my guy. My bedroom walls were a Simpson shrine when 630 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: I was a paper boy. As a kid, I ran 631 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: from house to house pretending that I was the juice. 632 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: And when Buffalo traded him to San Francisco for five 633 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: draft picks in nineteen seventy eight, it might have been 634 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the saddest day of my childhood. So now let's fast 635 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: forward to adulthood and get to my O. J. Simpson story. 636 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, the final year of the Bill's 637 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: run of four strade trips to the Super Bowl, I 638 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: was working as a TV sports anchor at WTVH five 639 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: in Syracuse, and I covered a divisional playoff game in 640 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo between the Bills and the Raiders. It's notable because 641 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: it's the coldest weather game in Bill's history, and that's 642 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: saying something. The temperature at kickoff was zero and the 643 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: wind chill was minus thirty two. Not quite the Freezer Bowl, 644 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: but definitely bone chilling. My TV station got three press 645 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: passes for every Bill's home game, one for a reporter, 646 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: one for a videographer, and one for a videographer's assistant 647 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: who could help with the equipment. Well, that day, the 648 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: videographer's assistant was my girlfriend and now wife, Peg. It 649 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: was legit. She did help us with the equipment, but 650 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: she was mostly there to watch the game. When we 651 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: got to the stadium, I told her there was no 652 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: way she was going to stay outside in that minus 653 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: thirty two degree winchill. So after we helped the photographer 654 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: with his gear, me and Peg headed for the toasty 655 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: comfort of the press box. But it was a playoff 656 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: game and the press box was packed. Only people that 657 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: specifically had a press box seat could get in. So, 658 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: being a gentleman or idiot, you make the call. I 659 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: told Peg to use my pass for the warm press 660 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: box and I would use the other pass and watch 661 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: the game from the sideline. Bad move. I wasn't quite 662 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: as crazy as Dave Lapham and his fellow offensive lineman 663 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: going with short sleeves in the freezer bowl, but I 664 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: was dressed for going on TV. I had dressed shoes on, 665 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have an especially warm winter coat, and there's 666 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: no way I was to make it through four quarters 667 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: in those frigid conditions. So I went looking for a 668 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: warm spot at field level where I could still follow 669 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: the game, and I found one in the Bill's weight room. 670 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: The heat was on. There was a little black and 671 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: white TV, and there was a small group of people 672 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: sitting in front of that TV, the NBC Sports pregame 673 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: show crew, consisting of a few former coaches and players, 674 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: including you guessed it, my childhood hero OJ Simpson. Well, 675 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 1: this was a dream come true. Not only had I 676 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: found warmth and a TV, but I was about to 677 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: watch an NFL playoff game, basically looking over the shoulder 678 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: of the guy I grew up idolizing. I was one 679 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: of about three or four guys standing there, and as 680 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: we watched the game, we could hear what OJ and 681 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: the other analysts were talking about. And it wasn't strictly 682 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: the game. Let's just say there was some locker room talk. Well. 683 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: Right after he finished telling a story, noticed for the 684 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: first time that they were a handful of strangers standing nearby, 685 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: including yours. Truly, Simpson wasn't pleased, so he summoned a 686 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: security guy who asked us to leave the weight room 687 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: and go back out onto the field. In short o, 688 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: J Simpson forced me to watch the rest of that 689 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: game outdoors in my TV clothes with a minus thirty 690 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: two degree win chill. It's obviously not the worst thing 691 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: he's ever been accused of doing, but it's not exactly 692 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: what you're hoping for the first time you're in the 693 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: presence of your childhood hero. And that concludes this episode 694 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: of story Time with Dan, and that's going to do 695 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: it for this week's episode of The Bengals Booth podcast, 696 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: brought to you by bud Light, Seltzer refreshed the game. 697 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 1: If you haven't done so already, please subscribe and if 698 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: you have a minute, give it a rating or eric 699 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm 700 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: Dan Horde and thanks for listening to the Bengals Booth 701 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Podcast