1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: So look, today is special for a number of reasons. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: One is we have a guess we got somebody coming back. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: The homie Bridget tod is you know DC girl, which 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I really love because if you know me, you know 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: my mama from DC and a lot of my family 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: out there. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: So I always love when she when she pull up. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: But she ain't have a lot of time, so we 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: tried to have as best conversation as we can. But 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, we're gonna talk about beef here. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Obviously I don't mean wagoo. Yeah, I said, I'm talking 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: about like you know, it's when you're not safe in 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: the streets. As the prophet Biggie Small has told us, 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: rest in peace. I think there's some some some things 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: we need to think about, like Taiwan and China got beef, 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: which is something. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: That we really better deal with. 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if we could deal with that, 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: because that ain't our beef for his thing. 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: I would have loved to have talked to Bridget about this, 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: but you know, her. 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Time was short, and if there's anything your boy respects, 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: it's other people's time. 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Now I'm talking about y'all should do the same but yeah, 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: here's the thing about China and Taiwan. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Taiwan make all of the computer chips, like all of them, 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: and even the stuff that you don't think is like 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: ran by chips. I mean, I know, you know your 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: phone ran by chips, but you think about your dishwasher. 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: What about every airbnb you. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Go to Hou it's got a cold to let yourself 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: into that that's a chip. 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: Your washing machine, that's a chip. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't think you realize, like how much of 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: our life is controlled by these little chips that Taiwan makes. 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: And I mean basically walk around your house. Anything that 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: gotta screen on it got a chip in it. I'm 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: China got beef with them. And you know, like I 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: don't put it past Jijinping to try to pull a 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: putin on Taiwan and try to be like you belong 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to us anyway, because you remember that's how that's how 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: China feels about Taiwan in the same way that Russia 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: feels about Ukraine, where it's like, no, nigga, you us, 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: that's crazy beef. But anyway, I really enjoyed my conversation 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: with my homegirl Bridget where she dropped some gems about 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: some of the stuff she's been working on. So yo, 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: let's listen to us. Hood Politics, y'all. All right, let's 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: make it happen. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Hood Politics 49 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: Special Edition. We got a return guess. I think you 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: were the first and only return guests. We've no, no, no, 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: We've had one return guess. Anyway, that's besides the point. 52 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would be so honored. I'm still 53 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: very honored. 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: You're still very honored. 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the the Homie bridget Todd. 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: What's up with it? 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: I am so happy to be here. Thank you for 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: having me. The last time I was on, I had 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 4: so much fun. And I remember you made this image 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: that looks like we were about to drop a mixtape. 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I loved. 62 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about cappin King of cap Yes, 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: because I love the way your brain works as far 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: as like creating podcast series, because I feel like they 65 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: it's almost like they're like albums, cause it's like it's 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: got a beginning and an end, and you're like taking 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: us through this journey of like, look, here's a piece 68 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: that's like completed. You know what I'm saying, like a 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: fully developed thought. I just love the way your brain 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: works when you do. 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. 72 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for noticing. That is definitely what I 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: intend to do. I like to tell stories that have 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: a beginning, middle, and end, mostly because I like a 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: show like yours where it's ongoing and it's a different 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: thing every week. 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it. 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: I don't know what I did to myself. I was like, 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I think about that this morning. I was like, I 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: don't know what I did to myself. Man, Like this 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: was messed up. Prop your said, like, you gotta do 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: this every week? Yeah, but every week a new story 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: because man, nah, so these and I'm like, and the 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: topic I chose, it's like, oh this is due. 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: It wonders for my mental health, you know. 86 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Like it's like bro, Like I was like, dog, I'm 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: a rapper, I'm a poet. Man, I like to do 88 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: flowery stuff, you know. But anyway, that's besides the point. 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're here. You got a new project that 90 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: it just fits so perfect with us. 91 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: And it's about beef. 92 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: Right, that's right. It is called Beef. 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: It is a podcast about out the best juiciest rivalries 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: that you've never heard of. 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: I love it. 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: So. So, first of all, I asked you this bridget 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: in one sentence, what's beef? 98 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: Beef is? 99 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: So the way that we're defining beef is very specific, 100 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: because it's not just I don't like this person, it's 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: I don't like this person and my that. 102 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: Dislike is fueling me in some way. 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: So beefs can be very petty, but they can also 104 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: fuel innovation. They can make they can make the person 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: who has beef better and smarter and more effective. Yeah, 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: so it's a it's a beef, So to have it 107 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: be one sentence, it's a beef that drives the beef 108 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: haver forward. 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: It makes sense. 110 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the correct answer I'm looking for is when you're 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: not safe in the streets. 112 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Biggie. 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: Smart, I didn't get that. 114 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: You missed that one. That is, what's beef is when 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: you're not safe in the streets. Anyway, So, such an interesting, 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: such an interesting idea. Obviously, beef's happened. The term, you know, 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: obviously came from city like you got beef and being 118 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: able to stretch it to this idea of like rivalries. 119 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: It's always funny to me, like watching politicians have beef, 120 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: especially because I'm like, y'all, I'll work in the same office. 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand how what are you What are you 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: gonna do? What are you gonna do for lunch? Like 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: you guys gotta go to the same buffet thing. Like 124 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We're. 125 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 3: Gonna see each other. 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: You go see each other because you got to go 127 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: to the say office, Like this is absurd, guys, which 128 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: I think in some ways, like putting the camera lens 129 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: really wide, even on like some inner city stuff like 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: there there are there are times that even growing up, 131 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: you kind of like have these like quick moments of 132 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: clarity where you're like, okay, those ops over there, right 133 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: this this rival hood. I'm like, well, I mean you 134 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: only live over there because that's where his mama pay 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: his rent. That's the all you reason, Nashal, That's the 136 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: only reason this is my hood is just that's where 137 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: we It's where our parents pay rent. So I guess 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: this is where we is, so we don't even own 139 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: these blocks. And then I'm like, we went to the 140 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: same head start, we had the same babysitters, We was 141 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: in the same after school programs in the same county line. 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know understand, just we just decided one day 143 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: we was enemies, Like what are we doing like this? 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: This is absurd? You know. Uh So oftentimes when I 145 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: think of, like, at least in our modern uh politics, 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: when I think of beef I think of them like that. 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, you you work at the same office. 148 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it reminds what you're saying reminds me so much 150 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: of that chazy line. Don't die over the block where 151 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: your mom rents. Yeah, you know, it's like by happenstance 152 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: here you live here, Yeah, making it a whole thing 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: of like I need to protect this and defend this block. 154 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: It's like, well, yeah, it's not is that is it really? 155 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: Like so you really zoom out like is it doesn't 156 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: make a ton of sense. And it's because I I 157 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: did not grow up experiencing a lot of rivalries and beefs. 158 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: Even as an adult, I definitely have people who I 159 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: I admire them and I see what they're doing or 160 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really have a lot of my 161 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: life is not fueled by nemesis and beefs. Yeah, I 162 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: don't have a nemesis. You didn't have a nemesis. 163 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: I had a nemesis. Do you have a nemesis? 164 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: I did? I remember I was thinking of thinking of my. 165 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: Nemesis and like a high school a little light skinned dude, 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, and if you had you since them with 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: the amount of melanin, you got equal to my melanin, right, 168 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and the age we ad obviously my nemesis was this 169 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: little light skinned dude, pretty ricky what they call. Yeah, 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty ricky, that's right. Oh I had issue with pretty. 171 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Rinky, you know. 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Uh So, so when I'm thinking, I was thinking about it, 173 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: like you know, we played a lot of the say sports, 174 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 175 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: Like it was in a lot of same things. 176 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, it was friendly, you know what I mean, 177 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: but like on some like Bud low Key though, like 178 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if we like each other. 179 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: You know, where is your nemesis today? Do you know? 180 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: I do know? 181 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: And if like what like, if I tell you more information, 182 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: y'all would know exactly who he is. And that's what 183 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: the part that's like, it's kind of I don't want 184 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: to like because it's like, I. 185 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: Mean, we're adults. Now it's so stupid, you know what 186 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 187 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: But like, well, you know, when we was in middle school, 188 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Uh, it. 189 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Was a thing, you feel me. 190 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: It never never spoken, nobody ever liked it, never acknowledged it. 191 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: But I know, I know that boy was looking at 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: me the way I was looking at him. But he, like, 193 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he was he was an A lister, like 194 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: an A list celebrity for a while, you know what 195 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And. 196 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: God I have I might tell you, Okay, okay, I'll 197 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: tell you recording already. 198 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm already piecing together some series. 199 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. 200 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: But but yeah, but I think there were I think 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the way that you're describing it, there was definitely like 202 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: moments where I feel like we did, like as you said, 203 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: like we did kind of push us pushy each other 204 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: to like excellence, because like you know, I didn't carry 205 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: that type of like mass. Like my version of toxic 206 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: masculinity is is is a very specific kind of niche, you. 207 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: Know, breathe. 208 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: I don't have the obvious big truck, you know, soul whatever, 209 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: can you beat me up type type masculinity. I have 210 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: more the like workaholic, I'm going to outperform you. I 211 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: got the hustle problem. You know what I'm saying. It 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: it's just like there is no off days, you know, 213 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: mid work I'm saying. 214 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: Which has its own like rewards and fault like stepbacks, 215 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: right like having that like it's its own weird things. 216 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I got niche. 217 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: It's a very niche like because because the rewards are obvious, 218 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but the drawbacks aren't. Some 219 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: of the drawbacks are like I can't I can't tell 220 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: you how many of my children's birthdays I missed. You 221 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I was hustling. You feel 222 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: me And I'm like, well, how you think you're paying 223 00:10:59,640 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: for this? 224 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? All that type of stuff. 225 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: It's funny to hear you say this because when I 226 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: think about people, you know, oftentimes creatives, it's like like, 227 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: you're a rapper, you're a writer, you're a a you 228 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: make a coffee company, like you do so much. And 229 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: I think it's one of those things where I love 230 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: that about creatives. How you get passionate about passionate about 231 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: something and you want to explore it, but that that 232 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: means that you're your your hand is always in several pops, 233 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: and you're always very busy. It doesn't always leave time 234 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: for you know, other pursuits in your life. And so 235 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: it's it's both a good and a bad, and that 236 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: it is. I admire that about creatives like yourself, because 237 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: you're definitely like one of the hardest working in people 238 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: in out there, like you are in so many things, 239 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: also showing up for you know, other stuff too. 240 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Yeah, but that's it. I'm actually reminded 241 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: of my own work, as corny as this is. But 242 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: in my last book, I have a poem about Mars 243 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: being essentially like we're just gonna treat it like another 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: gold rush. But like, but the turn of the poem 245 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: is essentially like, rather than looking at space, like look 246 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: at ourselves and like we kind of treat ourselves as 247 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: just a resource, like a fossil fuel, you know what 248 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm treating myself like my creativity I 249 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: am just a gold rush. I'm just here just farming 250 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: things out of myself, you know what I'm saying. And like, 251 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: what a what a horrible relationship to have with your talents? 252 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: You know that. 253 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: I just I know, right, I mean, it's like it's 254 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: my own work. But I'm like, god, damn, I'm doing that. 255 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: You know. 256 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: Well that really makes me think, cause like it's so 257 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: when you think about you, when you think about your 258 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: talents as a resource that you were just like commodifying. Yeah, 259 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: it's such an extractive relationship where you're just like, what 260 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: can I take from it? What can I mind from it? 261 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: How can I turn this into a hustle or a 262 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: dollar or a gig? And it's like. 263 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: It's where is the I mean, I'm thinking about my. 264 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: Own relationship with my work, but it's like, where are 265 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: you nurturing? Where are you blustering? 266 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: Yes? 267 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: Like, wow, huh Jesus. 268 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: I know, dude, but we didn't come to talk about that. 269 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: But I'm getting deep. 270 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's what I like talking to you. 271 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a few beets I want to ask 272 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: you about and just kind of hear you spit by them, 273 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: but I want to hear if you can share some 274 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: of the ones that you're going to walk us through 275 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: on your show. 276 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: Well, I gotta start. First of all, I have to 277 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: shout out my team. The Next Chapter podcast team. I 278 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: wish I could take credit for the show. It's really 279 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: a team effort. Our creator Jeremiah Tittle, our producer Pete Musto, Amazing, 280 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: amazing folks. Probably the beef that I am most fascinated 281 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: by is the one between soul singers Joe Texts and 282 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: James Brown, because, first of all, one of the things 283 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: that's interesting about them is that even if you don't 284 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: know who Joe text is, you've probably heard his songs 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: and there's a good chance you might think they're James 286 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: brown songs because they sound so much alike, and so 287 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: that is interesting. They both a big part of their 288 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: rivalry was how they both danced on stage, and so 289 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: each of them thought that the other was like stealing 290 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: their signature. 291 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: YEurope movie writer. Okay. 292 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: They would make fun. 293 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: Of each other via dance moves, like you know how 294 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: James Brown would do the trick with the cape where 295 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: he would tend to like it's almost to put a 296 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: cape on him and walk him off stage to make 297 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: fun of James Browne would do that in a biting, 298 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: mocking way, and people it was like very clear. So 299 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: it's it's like petty mean tip for tap back and 300 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: forth on stage. 301 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: Uh, their rivalry ended as as as the story goes. 302 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: At one point came to actual gun play where at 303 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: a Joe Tech's concert, James Brown walked into a nightclub 304 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: and just opened fire and then started handing out one 305 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: hundred dollars bills to people afterward. Luckily nobody was killed. 306 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: But uh, it's like the the stuff, the stuff that 307 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: you think of is like you know, the beat, like 308 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: the way beefs play. 309 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: Out in modern day. 310 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: All of that shit is there, all the ups and down, 311 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: the excitement of beefs are there in these historical beams. 312 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: It's so fascinating. 313 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: That is wonderful, especially because of I mean James Brown. 314 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: As much as he's the godfather of the soul, there's 315 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: so much about him that's like a cartoon character to me, 316 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: that like is which I don't say that in a 317 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: pejorative manner, but just the game dialed up to forty five, 318 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 319 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: They just larger than life. 320 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: And as a as a personal note on his last 321 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: like national tour, one of my good friends got to 322 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: open for him his little his little white rapper named Braille, 323 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: who's a pastor now, but he was he opened for 324 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: James Brown, and I remember we saw him at the 325 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Greek Theater right here in la and it was one 326 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: of the most surreal things I've ever experienced. 327 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: I would die of happens. 328 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: It's like a lot one of my life's problems that 329 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: I never got to see James Brown live because I've 330 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: heard his performances were. 331 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: It was unreal. 332 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: So demands in his eighties at the time, you know, 333 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: and all the stuff about his band and all that. 334 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, nah, I get it that like 335 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: perfection the band, right, and and my whole boy was 336 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: telling me just all this stuff. He was like, bro, 337 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: like you have no idea what it's like, Like I know, 338 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: you know what it's like being around old black man 339 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: because you're a black man. But he's like, but touring 340 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: with like sitting back and them showing me like and 341 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: they all want to start producing, so they learning like 342 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: showing them garage band beats, like hey so so young buck, 343 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: young buck, young buck, let me show you like, And 344 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: he was. 345 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: Just telling can you imagine, Oh my good. 346 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: And you gotta just sit and listen, think about think 347 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: about think about unk, like this is unk. 348 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: You have to listen to unk. You can't walk away 349 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: from unc like and. 350 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: You can't sort of pretend like what he's ground breaking? 351 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta pretend ukn't be Nah, don't play around 352 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: with uck. 353 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: Not only is this already uncle, but it's James Brown's band. 355 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: What the hell you gonna say to them? Good lord? Okay, 356 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: So that's a good one. I also heard you talk 357 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: about on was it? I think it was the Zeigeist 358 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: show that you do on one with the about Brent 359 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Michaels mm hm. 360 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: The rivalry between Brett the Hitman Heart and Sean Michael, 361 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: which is kind of interesting because when I was little, 362 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: I my brothers and my cousins were obsessed with wrestling, 363 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: and so I grew up kind of with it in 364 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: the background of my childhood. My brother loved what was 365 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: that guy, the Undertaker? What was his character? 366 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: He loved of course. 367 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: And you know, I think the wrestling, the wrestling rivalry 368 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: is so interesting because wrestling it's such a performance, right, 369 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: and so everyone knows it's fake, but the rivalries are 370 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 4: often real, right, and so like it's so interesting of 371 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: this like they're performing, but they really do hate each other. 372 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's like I mean in the same way, 373 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: like I think of that, Like obviously, for me, the 374 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: easiest rivalry, the easiest beef is like the Lakers and 375 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the Celtics' the la dude, we will We genuinely don't 376 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: like each other, right, And it's just a jersey And 377 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a man again. 378 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: They just at work, you know what I'm saying. 379 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're coworkers. 380 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm in the I'm in the stands wearing 381 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: another man's name on my back. You know what I'm saying, 382 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: Yelling at another guy who owns a whopping zero percent 383 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: of this company. 384 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like what is we? 385 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: But I genuinely don't like like yeah, like except me 386 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: and Sophie, that's what we share, like we genuinely I 387 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: don't even like the colored green, you know what I'm saying, 388 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: because because it's Celtics. 389 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, but I think I recently. 390 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: Watched a Celtics Lakers game a couple of months ago 391 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: at a bar where like a tension, it was a 392 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: close it was a close game, attention was palpable. 393 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: It's like it was like this is this is real? 394 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: This is real. 395 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's absurd, you know. 396 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, the idea, especially with pro wrestling, 397 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: like in the sense that in some ways all sports 398 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: they're just like like pro wrestling is just very mask 399 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: off in the sense that like, no, I'm letting you in. 400 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: But in some ways, every sport has heels and heroes 401 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: and a narrative arc. And because these are for profit institutions, 402 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and there are people moving 403 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: pieces around to make sure that it stays entertaining, you know. 404 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: And even in that, like. 405 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: Like I said, like in basketball, if you just get 406 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: drafted or if you get traded to another team, don't 407 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: care how you feel about that team. You post a report, 408 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: you feel me right, and now it's a new team 409 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: because you're there, you know. So but yeah, the but yeah, 410 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: but we're wrestling, like, yeah, I jumped off my tenth birthday. 411 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: We did a WrestleMania party, Oh my god, and that 412 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: was about it. That was when I was done because 413 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done with that. It just for me, 414 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: It's like I don't do well, which is what leads 415 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: me to this what I really want to talk to about. 416 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: As far as like the hood stuff are the politics 417 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: stuff is I I don't do well with like with 418 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: with tea and with like like gossip and cheese man 419 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: like keeping up with that, Like I've never done well 420 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: with that like that ever, you know what I'm saying. 421 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: So even even even on like some street stuff to 422 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: when it was like, hey, homie age, you hear about 423 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: so and so that food talked about this nigga. 424 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Hey, So we rolled up 425 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: to this party and I'm like. 426 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: I. 427 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: Don't. I wasn't there. I don't. I don't care like 428 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: he said what to who? 429 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: Because he was hitting all your girl, that's not even 430 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: your girl, Like, just I just don't. That stuff is 431 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: exhausting to me, you know what I mean. Yeah, So, 432 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: when I realized to be able to stay engaged with wrestling, 433 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: I had to keep up with the like have you heards. 434 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: I was like, I can't keep up with this. 435 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 436 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: We have an interview in that episode with a historian 437 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 4: who focuses on wrestling, who's written like books about it, 438 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 4: and that was one of the things that he talks 439 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: about in this rivalry is. 440 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: How the the out of the. 441 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: Ring gossip became part of it, right, and so it 442 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: wasn't just about what happened when you stepped into the ring. 443 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: It was about who said what at a party, who's 444 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: partner did this or that? Like, and it involved an 445 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: incredible amount of like lore and who said what to 446 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: understand how these how these men felt about each other 447 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: in the ring. And so it's interesting that like that 448 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: just seemed exhaust I kind of understand why that seemed 449 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: exhausting to you, where it's like, oh, I have to 450 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: care about the backstories of these people, Like. 451 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this? 452 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's like I'm not watching Real Housewives. 453 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly exactly, and I yeah, exactly. Yeah. 454 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: The idea that there's an entire category of show that's 455 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: just about keeping up with gossip, I'm just like that 456 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: makes me itchy. I'm like, I it's just exhausting to me. 457 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: And I don't for whatever reason, that just has never 458 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: I've never found that entertain sounds like work. 459 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: You already have several jobs. 460 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: I already have several jobs. 461 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: But I think coming up now is probablybably the most relevant, 462 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: like modern and you might know where I'm going with this, 463 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Like the newest, the newest beef, that's that's that's coming up. 464 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is obviously it's gonna be 465 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, right. 466 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, the most obvious beef. 467 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: Now I did a show, Uh, I did an episode 468 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: last year and it was called how fifty did Jah? Now, 469 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna remind you of this, of this story in 470 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: our lives. You know, this early early mid two thousands 471 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: moment in time when I think people forget how on 472 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: top of the world? 473 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 6: Jah? 474 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: Rule was like, I don't I know, he's a meme, 475 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But y'all like. 476 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: You was, he was on top of the world. 477 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: He was on top of the. 478 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: World, Like I don't think so easy forget you forget 479 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: like top of the world like Drake level, like Jah 480 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: was on top. 481 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: Of the world. 482 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: World fifty was just this New York, Jamaica Queen's Green 483 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: Lantern mixtape Hungry just street goon, right, and he and 484 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: on the Get Rich or Die Trying album, fifty had 485 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: all these interludes where he was making fun of job 486 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: about singing randomly on songs and on everybody's chorus. So 487 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: he would have somebody rapping and fifty would go. 488 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: Well, what I be with out yo. 489 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: He was just he was making fun of Jaw And 490 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: then and then finally there was My favorite interlude on 491 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: that record was and now jaw Rule featuring jaw Rule, 492 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: right because jaw was on every. 493 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: Song so fucking funny, right, It's really it's like so 494 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: mean and clever. 495 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: So mean and clever. 496 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: But and how clever it was was because it's exactly 497 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: what fifty does. Fifty sings raspy on choruses. I was like, 498 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing, like you's a window shop. Uh 499 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: mad at me? I thinking, no, you're doing you're making 500 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: fun of job, but you're doing what Joah did. 501 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 4: Right, And it's so interesting because like that is like 502 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: the there's like a nugget of like what so many 503 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: of these rivalries are about. 504 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: It's like y'all are too similar, y'all. 505 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: Y'all, y'all have the same thing, the same the same 506 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: like you do the same thing, and you just like 507 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 4: don't like that you're both doing it. 508 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, And it's like he so in him, just making 509 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: fun of him. He replaced him, like you just took 510 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: his job. So it's like you what you didn't hate him, 511 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to be him, do you know what I'm saying, absolutely, 512 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: and I'm like and fool. It worked, So in my 513 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: mind I was like this, my friends, is Ron desantles? 514 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 6: Yes? 515 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Also that was a masterful like podcast leap there. 516 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: That was like, that was very well I see when 517 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: you did that. That was very well done. 518 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Respect But yeah, so what do 519 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: you think of that? 520 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: What do you, like, like, talk to me about that 521 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Beef if you were gonna if this was like ten 522 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: years from now and you were doing a Beef season 523 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: seven and there'd be a few episodes about Ron DeSantis 524 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, Like, what would some of the stuff 525 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: you would talk about in that? 526 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think kind of like what you were saying 527 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: with John fifty. In my view, I think that Ron 528 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: DeSantis is doing Trump, and I think that he's doing 529 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: Trump better than Trump does Trump, and I think that 530 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: Trump's nervous about that. 531 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: Like I think that Ron de. 532 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: Santis is doing the same kind of shtick that Trump does. 533 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: He has. 534 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: The thing that's so insidious about him is I think 535 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: that he has identified some of the ways that that 536 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: Trump's whole like horrible, racist, transphobic nonsense shick. I think 537 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: he identified some pressure points of ways that it didn't work. Yeah, 538 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 4: and so he's not gonna do those things, and so 539 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: he he's just as repugnant, but he knows how to 540 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: pull it back just enough. 541 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: You know, he knows how. 542 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, well, there are some things that are unseemly, 543 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna not do that. 544 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: In my book, it's almost like worse that he's able to. 545 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: Kind of have kind of present a sort of more 546 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 4: palatable version. 547 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, what Trump does. 548 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 4: I think I honestly think that he's really studied Trump 549 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 4: stick and knows how to make it my. 550 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: Man gestures of everything exactly. 551 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: And also I worry that Trump was someone who was 552 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 4: easily undone by things like ego, and I wonder if 553 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: that is true about Rohnda Santas. 554 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: I wonder that's good because yeah, like he's a Trump 555 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: that can govern and that's what to me, what's what's 556 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: what's also what's very insidious about him? 557 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, he can actually he can actually. 558 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Do the job said like you know where you're like, okay, 559 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Trump's pretending to be an elected official, Like he's like no, 560 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: I he actually knows what he's doing. And that is 561 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: like again, the fifty did jah thing because I'm like, well, 562 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: fifty care like really rap right? I was like, and 563 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: he's actually a great businessman because we know how murder 564 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: inc went. 565 00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 566 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: I wonder, like you said, I wonder what. I wonder 567 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: what the Centrus's pressure point is. And I also wonder 568 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: so with this, like the Dominion Machine lawsuit happening and 569 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: the screenshots coming out with the Fox News correspondence like 570 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: them all in the group text, which is like, damn, 571 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: you broke the rules, cuz y'all let the screenshots come out, 572 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: like homie, you never let the group text come out right, like. 573 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: That's just rules. 574 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: Like and I feel like, now, as a side note, 575 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I will say this, I feel like anything said inside 576 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: of the group text should not be You shouldn't be 577 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: held liable. 578 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: In court over stuff in the group You shouldn't. 579 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: That was Ted Cruise's undoing when he tried to Fleet 580 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: of Mexico during that storm. 581 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: His own group chat betrayed it. 582 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I feel like that you should that the 583 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: group chat should be where you should be. 584 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: You should be complete. 585 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Everyone's allowed to be completely masked off in the group text. 586 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: I I completely agree. 587 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: I yes, but In that group text, they were mask 588 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: off talking about how much they can't stand in this 589 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: nigga trump right, which to me in some ways and 590 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: this is why I'm trying to send them the Sansus. 591 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: In some ways was a relief. 592 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: In the sense that I'm like, you don't really believe this, 593 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: Like and it's like you know when you looking at somebody, 594 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: you looking at them, and I'm like, wait, are you 595 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: You're messing around like you're you don't really believe you 596 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: just you just getting your money? Right, Like tell me 597 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: you just getting your money? Ain't no way you you 598 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: don't really believe this, do you? 599 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 600 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: So in some ways I felt a sense of relief, 601 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: like oh, okay, okay, cool, Like you don't really believe this, 602 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: you just getting your money. 603 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: And then you and then you flip back around. 604 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: To be like you're a monster, like you like you 605 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: really damn you really just did this to get your money, 606 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I say that to say, 607 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if if DeSantis is the same is like, 608 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: and if he'll ever wink at us and like, well, no, 609 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. 610 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: What a good question, because I know when the whole 611 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: like group chats and stuff coming out and like correspondence 612 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: it was. I have been following Tucker Carlson's career for 613 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: most of my adult career, and I think this is 614 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: the first time that we ever got like contrition from 615 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: him or he was like, oh, I have to acknowledge 616 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 4: that what I say on television and what I've said 617 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 4: privately are two vastly different things. This might be the 618 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: first time, at least since I've been monitoring Fox News, 619 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: that we've ever gotten that from him. I wonder about DeSantis. 620 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: That's such a great question if he if will ever 621 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 4: get a kind. 622 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: Of wink and not like you know, yeah, like will 623 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: he ever sort. 624 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: Of acknowledge like this is all just I'm just trying 625 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: to get paid, I'm trying to get power. 626 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: If this is what I have to say, I'll do it. 627 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. 628 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: And then to know like cause I just you know, 629 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: like you said, like Trump's ego is like I mean, 630 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: rice paper than you know what I'm saying, So you 631 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, in some senses, like he's lived so long 632 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: in his own like delusion that like, oh you really 633 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: believe this? You know what I'm saying I feel like 634 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: somebody like in the Santus is like and I'm even 635 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: thinking like the way he first responded to COVID, like 636 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: cause y'all remember his first response was like everybody else is, 637 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: which is like, yo, this is a y'all gotta get 638 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: your vaccines. 639 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: Man, it's out here. 640 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: Crazy and this is bad. This is bad everybody. Oh wait, 641 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: that's don't okay. You know what beaches are open? You 642 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, so the 643 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: way that he flipped so fast to me is like, 644 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: that's not that's not a dynamic like mind change, Like 645 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't change your mind. You you played 646 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: the game, you know what I mean. So I just 647 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of wonder, I wonder when. I wonder if and 648 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: when he'll ever like like kind of wink and gunnas. 649 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: That's such a good question. 650 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: I think I definitely see him as someone who is 651 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 4: playing the game. And again, like I think Trump was, 652 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: continues to be like an awful, repugnant human being who 653 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: has no place in government or anywhere else but lucky, 654 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: lucky for us, he is a small man, easily undone 655 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: by his papers and ego. 656 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: As you said, and so. 657 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious to see what So yeah, like like yeah, 658 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: will the santis be the same way, like like what 659 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: are his what are his like pressure points and frailties 660 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: that will be his undoing because. 661 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: That's the thing like people who we're talking. 662 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 4: About, small men who don't stand for anything, they don't 663 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 4: have values, they don't have they don't have codes, and 664 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 4: so it's gonna be for when a man doesn't have 665 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 4: a code, there's always. 666 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: Gonna be something that will be his undo. It's just 667 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: like it's just like how it works. 668 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely you nailed it, you always got to have to 669 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: have a code or some gonna undo you, which which 670 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: brings me to my last question this like, so now 671 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm picturing it's it's almost like a foregone conclusion that 672 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: they're going to be the two top likenomies, right, So 673 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm picturing their debate and I'm picturing their posturing, right 674 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: And because again in my mind, I'm like. 675 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking at fifty cent and job rule to me, 676 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 677 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just like John made a number of like 678 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: mistakes trying to like answer fifty because fifty is like 679 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: in some ways it's kind of weird because fifty is 680 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 1: like the ultimate troll, Like he's Fifty's funny every Yes, 681 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: and that's the hard part. It's like he's actually very funny, 682 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: you know. And I think we've all we've all like 683 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: kind of accepted the fact that that fact about Trump, 684 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: Trump is genuinely funny, you know what I mean, Like 685 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: he's actually funny. 686 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 2: So but Trump pell troll, you know what I'm saying. 687 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: So I just kind of wonder, like, what would be 688 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: your prediction on how this beef is going to play 689 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: out when it's on a debate stage. 690 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: Oh, what a good question if I had to say, So, 691 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: I agree with you as much as I cannot stand Trump. 692 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: He's funny. 693 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a he has a like he understands media, 694 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 4: like he's a reality TV guy, Like he understands television 695 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: and media. Yes, I don't think that Ronda Santis like 696 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 4: like Ronda Santis has never said anything funny. He's not 697 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: someone who has demonstrated that, like like he loves a stunt. 698 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 4: But there's a difference between being being someone who is 699 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 4: a stunt queen and somebody who was actually can like 700 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: the cameras on you deliver a line, and so I 701 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: think that Trump just really has that has that gift. 702 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 5: You know. 703 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, if you come up in a 704 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: reality TV it's not surprising that you know how to 705 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 4: get an audience and you know, you know how when 706 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 4: the camera's on, how to how to drop the. 707 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: Line, Doug. Yeah. 708 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: I just wonder if he Yeah, I wonder if he's 709 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna play it like straight and just being like sir, 710 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: like I mean, because I'm picturing like I would it 711 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: would just be like like damn man, like you were 712 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: my hero, Like I would be playing it like that, 713 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: like bro, like I believed like you were my hero man, 714 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: Like I don't understand. You have so much you need 715 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: to handle right now, Like you don't even have time 716 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: for this, you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, didn't 717 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: you just get indicted. 718 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 3: Though faithing active like you might go to jail. 719 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: You're finna go to jail, fam Like how you even 720 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: got time for all this? 721 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 722 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: We just did the episode that I think came out 723 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: before this one that's when it releases. Is we basically 724 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: talked about j Cole's song No Role Models, which is 725 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: essentially like you know, don't save her. 726 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: She don't. She don't want to be saved. 727 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: She all said so, like, and I feel like that 728 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: is like half of the GOP is screaming, listen, he 729 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: don't want to be saved, y'all. 730 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: Like, no, that man, listen, he hitting the lick. He 731 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: want to hit. He don't want to be saved. 732 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: Completely agree. 733 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like if I'm Rond Santos, that 734 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: would be my answer. I'm like, we can't be captain 735 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: save Aho out here, y'all. 736 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta we gotta country to run. Man, he 737 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: don't he don't want to be saved, y'all. 738 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: See this, Like if you on stage, like you see this, 739 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: this who we are? Like, he don't want to be saved, y'all? 740 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: Like it is what I'm trying to tell you. It's 741 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: not like that man don't know what he's talking about. 742 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: But what is this dude? Like he don't want to 743 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: be saved? 744 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 4: Y'all? 745 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: That's what I would do. 746 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 4: I think that would be like if I was advising 747 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 4: the Santis, I would give the exact same advice, you know. 748 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 4: And I think like Trump is the kind of guy 749 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 4: that you can give him enough rope to hang him exactly. 750 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 5: You can. 751 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: You can. 752 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 4: You can like let him take the stage and be like, well, 753 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: is this what you want governing? Like yeah, you know 754 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 4: what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that, that's exactly it. 755 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 4: You let the man talk and then you be like, 756 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 4: what did you just say? 757 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: Bro? 758 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: Like you just said a million things. You ain't even 759 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: answer the question. Listen, guys, I'm saying that. It just 760 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: turned to the crowd and just be like, we can't 761 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: I don't even know what this man said. 762 00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: Like you don't like. 763 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 3: I can't run into this. 764 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't respond to it because I don't even 765 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: understand what he said. Did y'all understand what he said? 766 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what was you talking about? Why did 767 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: you talking about the twenty twenty elections? Still like that's 768 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: a whole president ago, Like that's what I would say. 769 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 3: You say, great advice. 770 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 4: If the Santus is listening, he can take that advice, Ronnie, 771 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 4: or don't take it. 772 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: And then Louke, yes, I. 773 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: Also have this. 774 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: I also have this last theory, which I mean, I 775 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: don't know if this is provable, but like when I 776 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: see his name, ron DeSantis, I'm like, you think I 777 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: don't know your name is Dessantos. 778 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: Ooh, it's not funny how like how he was like, oh, 779 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 4: I grew up in Tampa Bay, which is like a 780 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 4: very like Latino neighborhood area. And he was like, but 781 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 4: I identify as someone from Pennsylvania. It's like, first of all, 782 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 4: Pennsylvania stolen valor. 783 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: You can't just like yeah, culturally. 784 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 4: Claim Pennsylvania when you're from Tampa Bay and also Tampa Bay, 785 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: like be proud of Tampa Bay. It almost seems like 786 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: a like a like a fuck you to Tampa Bay community. 787 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you not be De Santos? Like everybody 788 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: who is De Santos? And I'm like, DeSantis, you made 789 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: that name up, bro, Like you're trying to wipen your 790 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: name of dog. Y'all know you made that up your 791 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: name Like I used to think that about like Devin Nunis. 792 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, your name is nun Yez. You gotta here. 793 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 2: I know what you're doing because like you got a 794 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: Spanish name. Why did y'all? 795 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Why do y'all do this? Ted Cruise, you are Raphael? Okay, 796 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: why why do y'all do this? Yo? Anyway, Well, I 797 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: don't want to take um all your time, cause you 798 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: got things you gotta do. 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