1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings head coach 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: John Harball. Today spoke to the media at the league 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: owners meetings in Phoenix, Arizona. Spoke for about thirty minutes. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: I am joined by none other than the Cliffton Brown, 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: who was in Phoenix and was seated right to the 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: right of head coach John Harball during this press conference. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Or what do you call this, cliff media scrum? Breakfast scrum? 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: What do you call this one? Yeah, this was more 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: like a media all out blitz. This is the breakfast blitz. Yes, 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: breakfast blitz. I like that. We've seen a lot of 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: blitzer on the field, but that was the blitz at 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: the media breakfast this morning. The crowd, the media crowd 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: around John Harball continued to swell as his as he 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: continued to answer questions. It was really an interesting scene, 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: one that I thought he handled very very well considering 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: the circumstances and subsident matter. But yes, he was the 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: center of attention at the AFC coaches media breakfast. There 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: were other coaches who had one or two people around them. Yea, 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: as we're talking about whatever. Head coach John Harball did 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: not have that luxury this morning. You're saying it was 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: the Wink Martindale breakfast splitz win. Yeah, Wink would have 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: been proud of some of the media changing positions, disguising 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: what questions they were going to ask. It was. It 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: was an impressive display. Yes, uh as always you know me, 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Mink Cliff, thanks for joining us, stepping in for Garrett, 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: who once again takes the day off on one of 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: the biggest days in Baltimore Ravens media history. I gotta 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: say so, garretts undefeated. Garret's undefeated. Oh man, know it's 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: going to take vacation. His time is impeccableecable, He's undefeated. 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, what Cliff is obviously referring to is, uh, 31 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, basically as as coach Harball sat down for 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: his breakfast maybe a minute beforehand, Lamar Jackson released a 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: series of three tweets in which he said, you know, 34 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: speaking directly to his fans, he said that in part 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: he is requested a trade from the Ravens and did 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: so on March second, he said, for which he says, 37 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens quote have not been interested in meeting my value, 38 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: and goes on to talk about how much he loves 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: the game, and that he has to make a business 40 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: decision that's best for his family and himself. Says, no 41 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: matter how far I go or where my career takes me, 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: I will continue to be close to my fans of Baltimore, 43 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: flock Nation, and the entire state of Maryland. You'll see 44 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: me again. So obviously massive news right as the coach's 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: breakfast starts for John Harball and Coach harb had not 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: seen the sweets. It's brought to his attention immediately. Like 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: you said, Cliff, I thought he handled it really well. 48 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: But obviously a lot to break down with this, Lamar saying, 49 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: you made a retreade request. What was your kind of 50 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: initial takeaway, Cliff, when you saw it? Well? That this um, 51 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: this ongoing impass with Lamar Jackson continues to take twists 52 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: and turns almost on a daily basis, And it's interesting 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: to me, I'm an old school journalist, how social media 54 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: has played so much into now how people communicate, how 55 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: things are covered. What said, so, yeah, I mean we 56 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: meaning you know, the media in Baltimore and really the 57 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: national media. We haven't seen Lamar Jackson now in weeks, 58 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: but we have definitely heard from him and heard about 59 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: on him almost on a daily basis. And even though 60 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: there hasn't really been a change in status other than 61 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: him being franchised. Um, it's almost a daily update on Lamarville, 62 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: as I call it, um. And you know what, what 63 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: is the latest development? So you know, John Harball was 64 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: alway ready going to get questions about Lamar before these tweets, 65 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 1: but this, this tweet just took it to another level. 66 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: And the bottom line is, you know what is we 67 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: all want to know what is going to happen. You know, 68 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: is Lamar going to be the quarterback for the bottomore 69 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Raven's next season. John Harball said he is still hopeful 70 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: that's the case. Or is Lamar going to play somewhere else? 71 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Or is Lamar going to play? Um? Those are the 72 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Those are the three questions to me, um, and right 73 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: now we don't have an answer, to be honest, um. 74 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: And it seems every day this story takes a new turn. Well, 75 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: the the interesting thing to me is, you know, if 76 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: this happened on March second, that was before the Ravens 77 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: apply the franchise tax. So you know, this is not 78 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: news to Eric da Costa or John Harball. You know 79 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: that this trade request, as Lamar says, you know, was made. 80 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: This also is not uncharted territory for Eric da Costa, right, 81 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean Marky's Brown requested to trade, Orlando Brown requested 82 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: to trade, Hayden Hurst requested a trade, and U you 83 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: know all great players. I don't think Eric Costa wants 84 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: to part ways that those players, just like he doesn't 85 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: want to part ways with Lamar Jackson. Now, you know, 86 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: in years prior he has facilitated his deals and worked 87 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: with the player to honor their request. Right. Um, And 88 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: with Lamar it's obviously because of who he is and 89 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: these your franchise quarterback it's a much more tricky situation involved, 90 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: and there's a number of other factors that make it 91 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: a difficult situation. You know, him representing himself makes it different. 92 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: And just the caliber of player that he is the 93 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: magnitude of what a deal like that would look like. Right. 94 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: And so you know this is a road the Ravens 95 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: have been down. But just because a trade request has 96 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: been made does not mean a trade will happen necessarily, right, True, 97 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: you have to you have to find a trade partner 98 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: who not only is willing to give the Ravens what 99 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: they want in return, but also is willing to give 100 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Lamar what he wants contractually. Right, So you know, it's 101 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: not a simple matter. It's a complicated matter here. And 102 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens also, you know, another major factor in this. 103 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Don't really want to trade Lamar Jackson, just like I 104 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: don't think they really wanted to trade those other players before. 105 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Right now you do. It's in the best interests of 106 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: the club, and and and you factor in the players 107 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: desires as well, right, But the Ravens have to look 108 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: out for the Ravens first and foremost. And so they're 109 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna want compensation. They believe he should you know, that 110 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: is fair. They're gonna want fair compensation. And if they 111 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: are going to even trade him, their hope is that 112 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't come to that, and that Lamar that the 113 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: two sides can still work out a deal. Now, Lamar 114 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: has said, you know, they haven't they haven't come close 115 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: or whatever he says, Uh, I shouldn't pay, I should say, 116 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens have not been interested in meeting my values. Basically, 117 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: they know, you know, as is no surprise they haven't 118 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: met on a contract number here, right, he has a 119 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: different As we've said before, he has a different viewpoint 120 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: of what his value is versus what the Ravens view, 121 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, view that as so the Ravens I think 122 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: because and John Harball explained this, because this is about 123 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: the money. It's about the contract, not about something else, 124 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, per Lamar suite. It's about meeting his value. 125 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Right that contracts can be worked out. It's happened many 126 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: times before. And I think what's unchanged here is that 127 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: obviously the Ravens and Lamar knew that they had not 128 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: met on a number. He went on the market via 129 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the non exclusive franchise tag. The market is what it is. 130 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: We haven't you know, there haven't been a lot of 131 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: reports of there haven't been zero reports of tenders being offered. 132 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: We don't know what the market is right now. It's could. 133 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: We have no idea, right, there could be a lot 134 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: of talks happening behind the scenes that we aren't privy. Two. 135 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: We have no idea, But the Ravens are hopeful that 136 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: they can still come back and circle back to a 137 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: value that works for both sides. Yeah. And I mean, 138 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: like we said, I mean, it's not done until it's done. 139 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I just find it. I also find it interesting in 140 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: this particular situation you mentioned last year about you know, 141 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: Marcus Brown being traded, and of course we found out 142 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: after he was traded he had asked him be traded. 143 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: That trade happened. There were no rumors circulating before the 144 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: draft going to be traded. It was completely quiet. I mean, 145 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Marquis Brown came to them as any player can, and said, hey, 146 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: I want to change the scenery. The Ravens said, okay, 147 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: we'll explore the possibility of that happening. They worked out 148 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: a deal, it was done, both sides, we moved on. 149 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm in this situation just my personal opinion. I don't 150 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: see what is being gained by now so much you 151 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: know of it being made public by you know, these 152 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: by tweets and on social media. What Lamar is saying. 153 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean Lamar I remember him saying last year. You know, 154 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: he's a an individual. You know, he likes to keep 155 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: things private. Eric the Constas mentioned that he has agreed 156 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: with Lamar to keep things private. Eric has held up 157 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: that end of the bargain. I feel like, you know, 158 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to keep your eye on what is 159 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: really most important, and you know, if the Ravens are 160 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: going to work out a deal with Lamar and Jackson 161 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: to keep him, or if they're going to work out 162 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: a deal to trade him. I don't think it's to 163 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: anyone's advantage that you know every day or you know 164 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I just say, if there's new 165 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: conversations on Twitter, the most important conversations need to be 166 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: had between the Ravens and Lamar and whoever else now 167 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: at this point wants to get involved with trying to 168 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: make an offer to Lamar. Those are the only important conversations, 169 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: whether we know about them or not. And um right, 170 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: I'll just say I'll just say this. I mean, the 171 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: fact that Lamar doesn't have an agent complicates matters. If 172 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Lamar wanted a trade, his agent would put it out 173 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: there to all these teams. But he doesn't have an 174 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: agent that can do that. Right. There are reports last 175 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: week about another representative of his, you know, contacting teams. 176 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: The NFL put out a memo about that, saying they 177 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: have to has to be an NFLPA certified agent or 178 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has to contact these teams. Well, Lamar Jackson 179 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: just contacted all the thirty two teams, right, the way 180 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: that he knows how right he did he did, And yeah, 181 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: of course we've t you know, and and it's a 182 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: little bit different, and I think it's a little bit 183 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: different he you know, he's saying like come get me. Basically, 184 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: it's what he's saying, agent makes it Not having an 185 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: agent makes it more difficult, but not impossible. And so yeah, 186 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean this, this deal, a deal between the Ravens 187 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: without Lamar having an agent certainly can get done, as 188 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: we saw with Roque Smith. So yeah, I mean a 189 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: lot has been talked about Lamar not having an agent, 190 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: but that is not That to me, is not what's 191 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: keeping this a deal from being done. It's that, you know, 192 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Lamar haven't been able to reach agreement. 193 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: That yeah, so ably, I mean yeah, I mean the 194 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: again to me is this is becoming the longerest goes on. 195 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: That to me makes it more difficult as well. Um, 196 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: And the more that said publicly makes it more difficult 197 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: to me. Um, it just does. I mean even today, 198 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: a lot of the questions being asked and now a 199 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: lot of narrative it's going to be written, Um is 200 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: just going to keep to me being another stumbling block 201 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: into for the two sides to get together. And if 202 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: I were a player, whether that agent or not, I mean, 203 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: I would want to make it very clear what my 204 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: desires were, whether they agree with them or not. And 205 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I would definitely be a person who it's not going 206 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: to be hard for me to for you to get 207 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: a hold of me to discuss this. I mean, we're 208 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: just we're talking about my future. So I'm the person 209 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: who has the most at stake here. And you know, Lamar, 210 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: this is a key This is a key time in 211 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: his career. He MVP twenty nineteen, tremendous season, young quarterback. 212 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: At that point, we all thought he was going to 213 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: be the Ravens quarterback for the next ten years. And 214 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: he's and he still could be. But certainly the last 215 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: two seasons have not gone the way that either he 216 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: or the Ravens have won it. He hasn't finished the 217 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: last two seasons. Two years ago, Ravens didn't make the 218 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: playoffs after starting eight and three, and then this season 219 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy down the stretch and couldn't did not 220 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: play in the playoff game. So this is a critical time. 221 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: Whether he is with the Baltimore Ravens or anyone for 222 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: Lamar and Jackson's career and how this situation plays out 223 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: with the Ravens is going to play a key role, 224 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: a crucial role in where his career goes from here. 225 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: And it's my opinion that you know, if you're Lamar 226 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: and Jackson, this franchise is one of the best, if 227 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: not the best franchise for you to play with. As 228 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: John Harbor mentioned today, and everybody knows, the Ravens made 229 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: a total commitment to Lamar and Jackson as a quarterback 230 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: from the way the offense was designed, everything up and 231 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: down at all. As John says motown of time, it 232 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: all revolves around Lamar. That hasn't changed. That hasn't changed. 233 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: It's still until he if until it gets to a 234 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: point that he is no longer with the Ravens. It 235 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: all revolves around Lamar. He's a great talent, he's still 236 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: in the prime of his career, and he's with a 237 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: team playing for a head coach who is committed to him. 238 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: That made that is not the case in my opinion, 239 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: with all thirty two franchises. So we'll see how it 240 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: all plays out. But it is really really interesting that 241 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: it to me that he has reached this point for sure, 242 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: Just so listeners are aware how a trade would go down. 243 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Is Lamar would if it were to go down, Lamar 244 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: would sign his non exclusive franchise tag. Once he does that, 245 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: then he could be traded for any conversation. Right, So 246 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: this is kind of what we've talked about before, and 247 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: there's been so much chatter about you know, Wellwood teams, 248 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, submit a tender or an offer sheet. I mean, 249 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, if then the Ravens have the opportunity match 250 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: and if they don't, they get two first round picks 251 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: and whatnot. It doesn't really have to it doesn't have 252 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: to go that route, you know, if if there's a 253 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: team that says now, obviously whoever, if Lamar is agreeing 254 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: to sign the franchise tag, then he is agreeing to 255 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the trade and agree to whatever term contract terms this 256 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: new team is going to be offering him. Right, that's 257 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: part of the it's part of the whole deal. Um. 258 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: But now, really any kind of compensation package can come 259 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: into play, right. This is like Davante Adams last season 260 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: got tagged by the Packers. It was he signed his 261 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: tagging and then was traded so it doesn't. It's it's 262 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily this. You know, all the conversation has been 263 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: revolved around two first round picks. It doesn't have to 264 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: be that anymore. We don't what it could be, what 265 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens would want it to be. We have no idea, 266 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: um But I'm just saying that's how the mechanisms would 267 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: work if if a trade were to happen. Cliff, we 268 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: have some emails here, Yes, one comes from your coon. 269 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Friend of the lounge often emails us. He says, So, 270 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: first off, this sucks, but I guess what it is. 271 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: What it is. If Lamar wants to leave, he's entitled 272 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: to request it. However, as a Ravens fan, it doesn't 273 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: make it sting any less. He says, if a trade 274 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: partner cannot be found, where is the situation at, then 275 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: hold out, hold in. I only say that because I 276 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: don't think anybody has given Lamar an offer yet, which 277 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: means no team likely wants to part with two first rounders. 278 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Mpay Lamar his quote value. I don't think Eric costs 279 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: to trade Lamar for anything less than two first rounders, right, 280 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: So he goes on from there, But you know, to 281 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: answer the question here, there's certainly a possibility that despite 282 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: today's you know, public statement of a trade request, that 283 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: a trade still does not happen like we said, and 284 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens could work towards a long term deal and 285 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: that might not happen the deadlines July seventeenth. At that point, 286 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: he's on the tag, right if the Ravens don't want 287 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: to trade him for whatever teams are proposing, or if 288 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: teams just don't make a formal proposal, if they can't 289 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: reach an agreement with Lamar, then he's on the tag 290 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: for another year. What happens from then? Who knows? He 291 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: can arrive whenever? Right, if he doesn't arrive until I'm 292 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: not sure exactly what the cut cut off date is, 293 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: what week ten, something like that. I think Cliff, then 294 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't get an a crude season, so he could 295 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: hold out until then. We don't know, you know. John 296 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Harbor was asked if he thinks Lamar will be his 297 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: starting quarterback week one. He said, I do, you know, 298 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: but it remains to be seen. I don't think anybody 299 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: knows what would happen from then. No, we don't. And 300 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: that makes this again something that may be made in 301 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: the news for months. Obviously, the Ravens would want Lamar 302 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Jackson to be part of I'll just say training campus year. 303 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: They want to be a part of you know, off 304 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: season stuff too, But you have a new offense coordinator 305 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: going to have some new pieces of offense, certainly after 306 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: the draft. It is definitely a pivotal year for the 307 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: quarterback to be involved with the offseason reps leading up 308 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: to Week one. We all know what Lamar's cableb of 309 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: and that you know if he were to come late 310 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: and have to play catch up, that he has the 311 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: type of talent that would make it easier for him 312 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: to do that than other players. But still, like any player, 313 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: the more reps he gets and the more familiarity he 314 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: has with the new system, it improves his chances to 315 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: have a great season. So yeah, that's part of the 316 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: equation too. If Lamar is still here, you know, and 317 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: a long term agreement isn't reached, then howard the Ravens 318 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: moved forward under those terms And when you know what 319 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: will Lamar's reaction to be to not being moved and 320 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: playing under the tack We don't know, and you know, 321 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: so none of us can speak for Lamar. We'll have 322 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: to wait and see what happens, but they see as 323 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: that's definitely another element to what's going on. I think 324 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: a big part of this whole equation is going to be, 325 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, if a trade were to happen, it could 326 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: happen before the draft. I think it could certainly happen 327 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: during the draft as teams see how things shake out, right, 328 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, teams, teams want to know who their 329 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: quarterback is. And I think if they if teams are 330 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: thinking they're going to get a quarterback in the draft 331 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: and they don't, then do they, you know, go to 332 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Plan B or whatever and make a trade for Lamar 333 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: that would have been discussed previous so that it could 334 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: it could be a situation of let's wait and see 335 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: how this whole thing plays out. Though if you're making 336 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: that trade for I mean, that's such a colossal decision. 337 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I just think that 338 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: the draft and how the draft plays out could certainly 339 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: factor into all of this. And then if there were 340 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: to be a trade after the draft, and obviously the 341 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Ravens aren't getting twenty twenty three draft picks in return, 342 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: they're getting twenty twenty four and twenty five or whatever, right, 343 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: And so that's potential that's probably potentially less valuable to 344 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens because any team that gets Lamar Jackson's going 345 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: to improve on what they currently have. So a lot 346 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: of things in play here, Cliff, Yeah, you know what 347 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, let's face it, there there aren't 348 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: thirty two teams they have a quarterback better than Lamar Jackson, 349 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: certainly not. People have seen Lamar Jackson played for five seasons. 350 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't a mystery. You know what kind 351 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: of player you're getting. And there are definitely a teams 352 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: out there that need a starting quarterback, and that's always 353 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: the case. There aren't enough good starting quarterbacks to go 354 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: around in the NFL. So one of them, now, you 355 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: know it, has been unable to reach a contract agreement. 356 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: He's been tagged, but he at least is tweeting that 357 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: he wants to move on. So there's got to be 358 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: plenty of discussion about Lamar Jackson, no matter what people 359 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: are saying. He's too good of a player for there 360 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: not to be. So even though there are a lot 361 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: of absolute statements that are made, you know, I want 362 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: to be traded um. You know, I've heard people players 363 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: say I'll never play a game for so and so 364 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: and then things change or I'm here for life. I mean, 365 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: lamar and Jackson came to Baltimore. He said he, I'm 366 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: going to bring a super Bowl to Baltimore. So I mean, 367 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: the only way to bring a super Bowl to Baltimore 368 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: is a play for Baltimore. I mean, that's that's the 369 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: only way to do it. So maybe that'll work out, 370 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: or if it doesn't work out that way, then things 371 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: have changed. But I mean, I don't I don't think 372 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: that there's any like discontent between the two sides outside 373 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: of the money factor, right. I think like that they've 374 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: always had a strong relationship both sides, and you know, 375 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: it's just this is a business thing to me, right, 376 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you going to get paid? There's 377 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: a disagreement on what he should get paid. If they 378 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: can come to an agreement on that, then I think 379 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: we all are looking back on this and saying, remember 380 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: that that was crazy, you know, and there's water under 381 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: the bridge and it all goes away, you know. But 382 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: lamar By, I think virtue of putting out the sweet 383 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: is kind of signaling that he doesn't think that there 384 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: that it will come to that he doesn't think that 385 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: they will reach an agreement on his value. Yeah, you know, 386 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean that, Yeah, definitely, that's how it seems. I mean, 387 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: Lamar's taught met very many times about how much he 388 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: loves being a Raven. You've heard John Hallball today and 389 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: many times talk how much they love Lamar. So I 390 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: don't feel that that that it's over. I don't, but 391 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you know, they have not reached an agreement, 392 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: else it would have been done already. That has to 393 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: change for this situation to end, at least the situation 394 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: to end with him, you know, coming back to the 395 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Ravens next year. So the deadline for reaching in an 396 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: agreement before he plays an attack hasn't passed yet. There's 397 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: still weeks to hopefully maybe be some movements. But yeah, 398 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, things over the last year, 399 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: it's just been in a holding pattern. I think a 400 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that, you know, by late last summer, 401 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: this was going to get done, and it didn't. Now 402 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: we are here into another off season and now he's 403 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: been franchise and it still hasn't gotten done. So honously. 404 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: It's a very difficult to contract a lot of money. Hopefully, 405 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: as you said, I mean, there may come a point 406 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: where we just look back in and say, wow, that 407 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: was really something. But once it's over. Yeah, I definitely 408 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: believe that Lamar and the Ravens could go on and 409 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: have many, many great seasons together, but at this point 410 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: that can't happen until agreement is reached. Yep. Anyway, let's 411 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: take a break here and we'll come back with some 412 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: more talk about the rest. Cliff, you you really got 413 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: John on John's good side by changing the subject. So yeah, 414 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: we definitely laughed about that afterwards. You gotta, you know, 415 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta have somebody's back. And yeah, I mean 416 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: it went off for fifteen twenty minutes. You know, it's 417 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: like okay anymore, which there always we're going to be more. 418 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: But at some point I wanted to give him an 419 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to ask a question, to answer a question where 420 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's name wasn't mentioned, and it was kind of fun. Anyway, 421 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: we'll take a break, we'll be back with the rest 422 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: of it. Reminder of listeners out there, the sports landscape 423 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: is ever changing. 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That's code flock only at Draft Kings. 433 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: All right, So, Cliff, there were other non Lamar topics. 434 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: What stood out to you most? You you asked about 435 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: who was it the US about? It was US about 436 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar, I did, Yeah, So so you know what 437 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: was your takeaway from from that? Well? Yeah, I mean 438 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: that crently the Ravens with no Secret want to add 439 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: some elements to the wide receiver position, both the draft 440 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: and via a vent and Al Glars when they were 441 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: able to acquire. So yeah, I mean, I wanted to 442 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: get John's impressions about the receiver they were getting. I 443 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: do think that he's gonna be a guy who's gonna 444 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to make plays in a new offense. 445 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: He's a guy who's a first round draft pick when 446 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: he came out, didn't live up to that building in Philadelphia, 447 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: but certainly had had a really good season for the 448 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: Raiders a few years ago, and he's not over the 449 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: hill by any stretch. So I think in Tim Monkins offense, 450 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an opportunity. I think it's going to 451 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: be a receiver friendly offense where guys are gonna have 452 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity to make plays. That's what he tries, is 453 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: what really every cordinator tries to do. But Monica talks 454 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: all the time about putting guys in space, getting the 455 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: ball in their hands early, given an opportunity to show 456 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: what they can do. So as a guy who wants 457 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: to show that he's a better receiver than he's been 458 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: able to show in some other places, and that he 459 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: can be a guy who can can help the Ravens, 460 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it was a good pickup for 461 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: the ball. More considering the salarycap situation that they're in 462 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: and who's out there, it's an intriguing mood that they 463 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: were able to make, and they were able to convince 464 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: a guy who could have gone somewhere else to come 465 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, Right, I mean, obviously, you know the Ravens 466 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: salary cap situation there. You know, with Lamar and the 467 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: non excuse attack, there's there's not a lot of wiggle 468 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: room there. The Ravens want to make an addition, they 469 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: went up gard the wide receiver room. I think this 470 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: certainly does that, but they had to do it on 471 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: a budget and options were dwindling, right. And so Aguilar 472 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: is a guy who is undeniably talented, right, first round pick, 473 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, big play threat, who was second in 474 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: the league in yards per catch just three years ago, right, 475 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: second in the league. And you know, he didn't have 476 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: he didn't have his best seasons in New England. But 477 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens are opening hoping that they can unlock more 478 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: of his potential, right, I mean, DeMarcus Robinson led the 479 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: team in receiving yards this past year, you know. I 480 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: mean there's opportunities for guys who haven't necessarily broken out 481 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: to have a prominent role in this offense for sure. 482 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: And you know, but John Harball said, I do think 483 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: it is interesting how he's John Harball said that he 484 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: thinks Nelson Aguilar will be a good veteran for the 485 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: younger guys in the room. That I thought was, you know, 486 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: an interesting component of the signing. You know, he's been durable, 487 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: he's seen a lot, you know, it's kind of a 488 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens have made a lot of these veterans signings. 489 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: They've signed a lot of guys who are on the 490 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: last you know, their last run, you know, later stages. 491 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Aguilar is not as old as a bunch of those 492 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: guys that they've brought in, so you think maybe he 493 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: still has a little more left in the tank, but 494 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: he's been around for a while and can kind of 495 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: guide this younger wide receiver corps that they're obviously going 496 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: to continue to add to. So I thought that was 497 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: interesting in the fact that John Harball clearly stated they're 498 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: not done at wide receiver. No, right, I mean to me, 499 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: this doesn't change at all the possibility of them picking 500 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: a wide receiver with their first pick and certainly at 501 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: some point in the draft adding another wide receiver to 502 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: the mix. So yeah, I mean again, I just thought 503 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: it was as you mentioned, with the sarycap restraints, it's 504 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: a good pickup for them. And yeah, despite the uncertainty 505 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: about what's going on with Lamar Nelson. Agilar thought this 506 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: was a good situation for him to be in, and 507 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: I think he recognizes it's a winning organization where he'll 508 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to definitely have a role, maybe a 509 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: significant role, and at would only help his career. So 510 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: I think he made a smart move to come, for 511 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: sure the wide receiver one on the Ravens for Shot Beatman. 512 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: Some news about him as well from John Harball saying 513 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna be running in three weeks, which is great. 514 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: He's doing really well. Expects him to be stronger than ever, 515 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: healthier than ever, Harve said. So that's that's really big 516 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: news because honestly, getting a healthy Rashat Bateman back on 517 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: the field and seeing the potential that he has certainly 518 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: flashed when he's been when he's been out there is 519 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: paramount to the Ravens offense. You know. Now the Ravens 520 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: are kind of trying to not be in a situation 521 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: that they were in last year where all eggs were 522 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: in the Rashad Bateman basket, right, But certainly hearing from 523 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Harves today gives you makes you encourage about his health 524 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: status and once again underscores the fact that just because 525 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: they're not putting all eggs in the Rashad Basin basket 526 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Bateman basket, they're expecting big things from that basket, right, 527 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: no question. No, I mean they're gonna need a big 528 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: year from him. They and they've seen what he can 529 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: do when he is healthy, for sure. I keep I 530 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: keep going out of a play. I think it was 531 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: against Miami. Uh well, I mean he just called a 532 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, a kind of a slant and just took 533 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: it to the house. The explosiveness that he has went healthy, 534 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: it's really something that the Ravens offense sorely needs. I mean, 535 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: big plays, striking quickly, not having to have these long, 536 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: methodical drives down the field, and those are game changing plays, 537 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: and he's capable of that. Again, you know, in a 538 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: tide Monkin offense, he's going to hope to design plays 539 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: where a player like Bateman will have a lot of 540 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: opportunities in space to make plays, and that's a problem 541 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: for defenses and it opens up things for other players. 542 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'm just you know, like, I'm 543 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: sure no one wants to stay healthier more than Rashide 544 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: Bateman than he does. But I'm just hopeful for him, 545 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: as a young player with obvious obvious talent, that he 546 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: can stay healthy. He was a healthy player in college. 547 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that he has better in that in 548 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: that department because I think if he does, the production 549 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: will be there. The town is there, the desire is there. 550 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: It's obvious that when you talk to him how badly 551 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: he wants to be a really good wide receiver. It's 552 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: it's it's there. He's hungry to succeed and it means 553 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot to him. So let's be honest. The scheme 554 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: is more more set up now for him to prosper 555 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: than it was in Greg Ruman's run heavy scheme. Yeah, 556 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: he should be excited, and I think he is, Yeah, 557 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: for sure. Another big takeaway from me was the left 558 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: guard competition. You know, with Ben Power's going to Denver, 559 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: there's been chatter about, okay, who's going to replace him. 560 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: John Harball kind of sized up that competition, leading with 561 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: Patrick McCarry, the veteran you know who can always you 562 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: can play any of the five positions. But then also 563 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, talking to obviously Ben Cleveland, you know it's 564 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: kind of like a Ben Powers kind of guy, you know, 565 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: has had some starting experience because he grab the reins 566 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: like Ben Powers did. Who knows, you know, he's just 567 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: a former third round. Harves also mentioned John Simpson, who 568 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: I've pointed out to people on another occasions not to 569 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: forget John Simpson, a veteran who has started a number 570 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: of games with the Raiders and years past, big body dude. 571 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Harves said he's having a really good offseason, kind of 572 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: specifically highlighted him a little bit more. And then the 573 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: curveball Daniel file Lelee as a potential guy in the 574 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: left guard competition. Didn't see that one coming, so I 575 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: thought that was really interesting. Cliff. Yeah, and I mean again, 576 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: all these all those people you mentioned should be excited 577 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: because the guy, the best player is going to win 578 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: the competition and get the job. And we've seen a 579 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: lot of offensive lineman with the Ravens take advantage of 580 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: these situations, whether you know it'd be a Bradley Bowsman, 581 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: you know, or then the way it's worked out for 582 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: Ben Powers be able to take advantage of a situation 583 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: where they've been able to start and develop and play 584 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: a key role and either you know, have a bigger 585 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: role with the Ravens moving forward or move on and Filela, 586 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean he showed signs lands Shire and not guard 587 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: but the tagle. But he came a very long way 588 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: in my opinion, from where he won during rookie camp, 589 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: you know, really having some issues with stamina and being 590 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: conditioned to being a player who was getting in the 591 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: lineup and contributing. So to me, it was a good 592 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: first season for Filele. Ben Cleveland certainly has an opportunity 593 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: to step into a role much like powers. Did you 594 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: know McCarry, We already know how valuable he is, regardless 595 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: of how he's us to lize. And then Simpson is 596 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: definitely a player I'm curious about seeing more of and 597 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: he'll know going in that he's got an opportunity to start. 598 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: So just like just like previous years where you know 599 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: who's going to start left guard school, that was one 600 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: to go on to be the one of the hot 601 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: quote hot you know, training camp battle, it's going to 602 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: be that way again. But I think the Ravens certainly 603 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: have enough talent where whoever wins the job, they'll be 604 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: able to fit in well with the rest of the 605 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: offensive line. And I think Joe Joe Sandras does an 606 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: excellent job his offensive line coach. He's gonna really be 607 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear him on these guys every day at 608 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: practice at left guard, you know, trying to get the 609 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: most out of all of them and finding the right 610 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: guy to fill in to be the starter, right. The 611 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: quote to just put up the quote on John Simpson, 612 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: he says, Harp said, I think he's going to surprise 613 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: some people. He had a nice He's had a nice 614 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: offseason so far. So interesting. I'm just saying, yeah, gotta 615 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: watch the pass rushers. I think this is your question 616 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: one the Cliff it was it was you the pro Garrett. 617 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: If you're out there listening, take notes, buddy, Cliff pros pro, 618 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: So what would you get? What you get from is 619 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna kill you when he get Karl's gonna kill you 620 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: when he comes back. You notice, right of course, you 621 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: know payback is coming. Of course, I'm about to be 622 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: taking some vacation days for myself, so I know it's 623 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: coming later out the quarter. It's coming. You'll you'll be defenseless, beless. 624 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: That's all right, that's what we do. We take pot 625 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: shots in each other. That's what we do, all right, 626 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: So what would you get on the outside linebackers from 627 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: Harves Well that you know, he was cure interesting. He 628 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: had dinner with he said, with the Day and David 629 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: a Jobbo. I think last week he said, um talking 630 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: about I'm sure next season and how both of them 631 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: will be in position and needed to step up. I 632 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: mean it's clearly you know, justin Houston's a guy who 633 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: again led them in sacks with nine and a a half, 634 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: showed he has plenty of jews, could be someone who 635 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: signs with them later and the all season. But whether 636 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: that happens or not, Ojabo and Oway are going to 637 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: be counted on to be heavy contributors with the Ravens 638 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: pass rush next year. And you know this will be 639 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: we all know, kind of like a rookie season for 640 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: a Jabo coming coming back off the Achilles injury. He 641 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: played a few games, but you know it really kind 642 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: of ruined that injury, had his pro day, had ruined 643 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: his rookie season, and you know, robbed him of being 644 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: a first round pick, which everyone knows he really is, 645 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: which John Harba mentioned the day. So they really they 646 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: have two first round picks in Oway and Ojabo. Your 647 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: first round talents is how he phrased it. Yeah, which 648 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: is true first round talents who now, hey, this is 649 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: your time, hid we need you. Yeah, he said for 650 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: them to step up and be a part of the 651 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: mix is quote critically important, right, there's no sugarcoating. I mean, 652 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: and boy, you could imagine if both of them do 653 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: step up, and then and if they if they do 654 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: add Houston again to the mix and they and they 655 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: still have ties bounser I mean, that position could become 656 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: a strength for sure. But right now it's a position 657 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: where yes, they need those two young athletic talented players 658 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: to step up. So there'll there'll be two other players 659 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: who are going to be watched closely during the off 660 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: season and during training camp to see if they're ready 661 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: to make that jump in year three for a job 662 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: for da Folway and year two for a Jabo, Right, 663 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens, ever since they picked David A 664 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Jabo and even beforehand, have had visions of two high 665 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: school Blair Academy teammates terrorizing quarterbacks like they used to. 666 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: And those visions have not changed despite the fact that 667 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: David A Jabo sall very limited game action in his 668 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: rookie season for sure. Two more things that I'll bring 669 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: up just quickly before we wrap up here. One, I 670 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: thought it was kind of interesting the question about, you know, 671 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: who could be basically the inline blocking tight end now 672 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: with Josh Oliver going to Minnesota, you know Nick Boyle 673 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: as a free agent, who could be that guy? John 674 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: Harball pointed to pat Ricard, which I thought was an 675 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: interesting option. You know, we've all been kind of talking 676 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: about where does Ricard fit into Todd Munkin's offense. That 677 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: could be more of a job for him. Obviously the 678 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: guy can block, you know's it different body type than 679 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: those those big tight ends, but Kenny still be effective 680 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: in that role. Kind of interesting. And then I thought 681 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: it was also certainly noteworthy that the Ravens have had 682 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: some conversations John Harball said about trades, you know, beyond 683 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, which he didn't say they've had trade talks 684 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, but he said, we've had a bunch 685 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: of talks about other players with other a bunch of 686 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: other teams. Interesting, don't It doesn't surprise me, but I 687 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: think it shows Ravens fans a little bit peels back 688 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: the curtain that, you know, despite a slow in Eric, 689 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: it starts a free agency, you know, in which the 690 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: Ravens really you know, prioritize keeping some of their own guys. 691 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: And and then obviously added Nelson Aguilar h that it 692 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: was not for lack of effort that there's there. There 693 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: have been trade talks about multiple players with multiple teams. 694 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: So to me that is a Now maybe the I'm 695 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: sure on some of those, you know whatever, they went 696 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: to another team or the window is closed. But uh, 697 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: Eric Costa is a man who's made a lot of 698 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: trades in his life and his tenure as GM. I 699 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: think he is. Uh, he's certainly not sitting on his hands. 700 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: I will put it that way. I don't know, no question. 701 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, any you know, for anybody who thinks that 702 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: every day Eric the Costa, John Harball, the entire front 703 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: office isn't thinking about getting better is fooling themselves. I 704 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: mean they're driven to try and get better every day, 705 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: and the situation on this all season isn't going to 706 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: change that. Um certainly we know the Ravens with only 707 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: five draft picks, that Eric Decasas is thinking about ways 708 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: to get more. Um, well, it wasn't Daniel Jeremiah told us, 709 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: but if he ends up making five draft picks, eat paper, right, 710 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: So hopefully for DJ's sake that doesn't happen, right, But um, yeah, 711 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean it. The Ravens also our organization. They they 712 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: want to be able to have a shot every year 713 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: at winning the Lombardy. They're not an organization it wants to, 714 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, do the two year, three year, whatever year 715 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: you want to put on that rebuild. That's not in 716 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: their DNA. So when you take all that into the 717 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: philosophy of the organization, yes, they're ready to be aggressive. Um, 718 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: they're always on the attack looking for ways to improve. 719 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, a lot of things are gonna 720 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: shake out right before the draft or during the draft. Um, 721 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: it's right now, yeah, I think now. You know, at 722 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: the obviously league meetings and leading up to the draft, 723 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: there's ongoing conversations teams thinking about what they may want 724 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: to do on draft night. When it gets to draft night, 725 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: that's there. Now, it's now, it's now or never. You know, 726 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: this deal is on the table for these picks, we 727 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: can move up or down the board. That's what are 728 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: you going to do? And I think just like we've 729 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: seen a lot of movement this offseason around the league. 730 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: We're still going to see a lot of movement, you know, 731 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 1: on Draft Night, during Draft weekend, a few days before 732 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: the draft, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if 733 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens are involved in one or several of those moves. 734 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, as Ezai knew to me to say, 735 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: this is not the team right now that we're gonna 736 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: have taken to week one. We don't have any games 737 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: till September, and this is all part of the ongoing 738 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: chess movement to try and make the Ravens a better 739 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: team than it is now in week one that it is. Now, 740 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: let's wrap things up here, Cliff, thank you for joining me. 741 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: As always, make sure that you subscribe, rate, and review 742 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: the Lounge podcast, and if you haven't done so, make 743 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: sure you do the same for the Ravens Press Pass 744 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: our new podcasts and you'll find the entire breakfast media 745 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: scrum what we call it the Breakfast Blitz with John, 746 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Blitz with John Harball that you can find 747 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: it in its entirety so you can hear it straight 748 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: from the horse's mouth on the Ravens Press Pass podcast 749 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: to make sure you look that one up and subscribe. 750 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, we'll be back to you later this week.