WEBVTT - BONUS EPISODE: The Politics of A Second Trump Presidential Term

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome everybody to the bonus episode of Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll drop periodically throughout this inaugural season. Now, these

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<v Speaker 1>episodes won't be like your typical Spolitics episodes. Sometimes it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be just me as it is today, and sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>may have a guess it's just me sort of reacting

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<v Speaker 1>to things as they say in real time. First, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start on the thoughts or my thoughts rather

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<v Speaker 1>on this election. I've been really careful about sharing my

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this election. I mostly haven't shared it in

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<v Speaker 1>a public space, just because, you know, I really needed

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<v Speaker 1>to process and sort of really think about what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, and not that what I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say is so revolutionary compared to what other people have

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<v Speaker 1>been saying. But I think it's pretty clear and it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty evident what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And as for me, this was.

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<v Speaker 1>Not something that was surprising in the lightest that Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris would lose to Donald Trump, because I like this

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<v Speaker 1>was a direction that we were sort of headed in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and this hasn't just been in the making

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<v Speaker 1>when Kamala Harris became the head of the Democratic presidential

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<v Speaker 1>nominee in terms of the ticket, this was something I

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<v Speaker 1>think that has been going for much longer than that

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<v Speaker 1>heading towards this particular moment, and mostly because I know

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<v Speaker 1>this as a journalist and seeing all the information that's

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<v Speaker 1>out there on social media, is that journalists, or very

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<v Speaker 1>specifically I should say the Democratic Party, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>tied to journalism overall. They've lost the information war, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a defeat that was quite clear in to how,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some of the various campaign ads, which I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into in a moment, but also the way that

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<v Speaker 1>people were processing the information. And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>looked at any social media site, it was just flooded

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<v Speaker 1>with misinformation. And I think we're at a point now

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<v Speaker 1>in society where in our classroom, on campuses, and just

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<v Speaker 1>in our daily lives that a lot of people need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to decipher between misinformation, disinformation and truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the feelings that are evoked in

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<v Speaker 1>this election, often a lot of it was led by misinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was not surprised, and I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason that people didn't elect Kamala Harris. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there were other factors that were at play, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't surprised. And here's proof that I wasn't surprised,

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<v Speaker 1>because about a month ago, I was asked at an

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<v Speaker 1>event that was put on by the Atlantic, where I

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<v Speaker 1>also know, right I'm a contributing writer for The Atlantic,

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<v Speaker 1>as many of you know, where I cover the intersection

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<v Speaker 1>between race, sports, politics, gender and culture. I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>an event on Michigan State's campus and I was asked

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<v Speaker 1>who I thought would win this election.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's what I said, quickly before we go.

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<v Speaker 3>If the election were held today, who's going to win?

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump? If the election were held today, who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to win? Kamala Harris?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Trump will win.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's three weeks left. There's a lot of game left,

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<v Speaker 3>as they.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, so clearly I did see this coming, but I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't think that makes it any more difficult to accept.

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<v Speaker 1>As many of you all know, I've had my own

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<v Speaker 1>personal history with Donald Trump. Back in back in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>I tweeted that the president is a white supremacist. These

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<v Speaker 1>are words I still stand on, words I think that

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<v Speaker 1>have been proven ever since then and were proven before

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<v Speaker 1>I said it. And that tweet, of course, changed my

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<v Speaker 1>career in many ways. It changed how people perceive me.

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<v Speaker 1>It changed a lot of things. And the president in response,

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<v Speaker 1>he said I should be fired. He blamed me for

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN's ratings being not healthy, apparently, and the then Press

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary Sarah Helckabe Sanders, who is now the govern of Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>also said that I should be fired. So yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>take the reelection of Donald Trump quite personally because of

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<v Speaker 1>the person themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>But also as a black woman. And that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think for a lot of black women we

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to Kamala Harris just in the sense of

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<v Speaker 1>some of us have been in that position before where

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<v Speaker 1>we felt qualified, if not overqualified in many respects, and

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of Black women, even though we should

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<v Speaker 1>not internalize it this way, it felt like a particular

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<v Speaker 1>rejection of some of the things that we've been fighting for,

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<v Speaker 1>or it felt like a particular rejection of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>our place and how we're seen in this society. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's by any accident that both of

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's presidential victories have been against women Hillary Rodham Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>of course in twenty sixteen, and now in Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>because some of those same tropes have come up in

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<v Speaker 1>both elections and so it does make you wonder at

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<v Speaker 1>what point I hate to use the word ready, but

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<v Speaker 1>at what point will America be ready for a woman

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that role. I think it's a question

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<v Speaker 1>we have to ask ourselves, is like, what is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to take? Because I see all this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these post election autopsies trying to box around what

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<v Speaker 1>I think was pretty obvious about how racism and misogyny

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<v Speaker 1>we're driving a lot of the coverage, the opinions, and

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<v Speaker 1>even how the electorates saw Kamala Harris, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all want to fight about it, let's fight about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it was particularly evident.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's time to turn the page, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important as we think about what another Trump

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<v Speaker 1>presidency could mean. I think it's important that we think

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<v Speaker 1>about what this might mean in terms of the world

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<v Speaker 1>of sports, because I think how a Trump presidency will

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<v Speaker 1>impact the world of sports this time around will be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot different than it was the first time around.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you all remember from.

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<v Speaker 1>That time when Trump was first in office, he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to use certain sports issues as a political football

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<v Speaker 1>that helped more endear himself to his base that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in some respects, you could say, grew his base, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of those ways was his attacks on NFL players

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<v Speaker 1>and Colin Kaepernick in particular, who in twenty sixteen, before

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<v Speaker 1>he became president, Colin of course, decided to take a

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<v Speaker 1>knee to protest against social injustice. This became arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest story in sports, certainly a very important story, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that gave us a window as to what to

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<v Speaker 1>expect from a Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, even though we don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>A Colin Kaepernick in this moment, I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest things we have to look at is how

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's plans for the US Department of Education, how that

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<v Speaker 1>may factor into how athletes are treated this go around.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to pay attention to something he

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<v Speaker 1>said about the Department of Education. Here's that sound right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to end education coming out of Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to close it up, all those buildings all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, and you have people that in many

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<v Speaker 1>cases hate our children.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to send it all back to the States. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, a lot of people are applauding this, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of crazy to me, but I get it

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of us don't really fully understand the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between how the Department of Education operates and how the.

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<v Speaker 2>State Board of Education operates.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is certainly a degree of satisfaction that

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<v Speaker 1>people feel by the idea of disbanding a government department

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<v Speaker 1>over an issue that a lot of people in this

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<v Speaker 1>country aren't happy with, and that is education, even though

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<v Speaker 1>by certain metrics it shows America is still one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top places to be educated. Now, this isn't me

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cape for our educational system, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>do a dive to where American students rank in math

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<v Speaker 1>and science, that tells a much different story. The United

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<v Speaker 1>States ranks thirty fourth in math, sixteenth in science.

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<v Speaker 2>And as someone who went to.

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<v Speaker 1>Public school in Detroit, I know that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>inner city schools face a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of educational challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's take a look at the Department of Education

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<v Speaker 1>and how that correlates to sports. One of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important elements of the Department of Education is enforcing Title nine. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to tell you the importance of Title nine,

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<v Speaker 1>but in case you need to remember, it's the single

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<v Speaker 1>most important piece of legislation in the history of women's sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Title nine was enacted by Congress in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>Title nine prohibits sex discrimination in education. When Title nine

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<v Speaker 1>was formed, it wasn't intended to be the bridge that

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily opened the access point for women in collegiate sports,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's essentially what happened. The Department of Education enforces

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<v Speaker 1>and investigates Title nine violations. These violations range from investigating

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<v Speaker 1>inequities between men's and women'sport worts inside of the athletic departments,

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<v Speaker 1>and this part is really important to also including investigating

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assaults that happen on campus. Now, we have some

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<v Speaker 1>indication of how Trump's administration will handle Title nine enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>based off what his administration did the first time around,

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<v Speaker 1>and based off the plans laid out in Project twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, you know, the playbook for his second term

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump claims to not know anything about. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about when I refer to Project twenty twenty five. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in his first term, Trump appointed Betsy Devas as the

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<v Speaker 1>Education Secretary, and when the first thing she did was

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<v Speaker 1>take some teeth out of Title nine protections. Now, among

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<v Speaker 1>the many new policies that Betsy DeVos instituted to Title

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<v Speaker 1>nine the most egregious was accused rapists were allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>cross examine their alleged victims in a live trial. Please

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell me, I have to explain to you why

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<v Speaker 1>that is really fucked up. Based on what's proposed for

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<v Speaker 1>Title nine to Project twenty twenty five, the goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to make the process of filing a complaint for any

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<v Speaker 1>discrimination that fall under Title nine painful and lengthy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would basically require those who come forward with Title

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<v Speaker 1>nine complaints to have a legal team. It does everything

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<v Speaker 1>possible to discourage people from coming forward for highlighting abuses

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening in the system, and that doesn't just

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<v Speaker 1>apply to sexual assault, but virtually any violation of Title nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as it is, there are some eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>athletic departments that are not fully compliant with Title nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Although to various degrees, if Title nine is put under

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice or it's under the supervision of

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<v Speaker 1>the state, Title nine it may as well not exist.

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<v Speaker 1>The Department of Justice isn't going to have much incentive

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate anything, and the states may not have the

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<v Speaker 1>resources to take it on either. Now there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people saying that again this is a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of the Department of Education. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go back to something I said previously. I need you

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<v Speaker 1>all to understand how the Department of Education actually works.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen seventy nine, former President Jimmy Carter he

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<v Speaker 1>split off the Education from the Department of Health, Education,

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<v Speaker 1>and Welfare. Now, what the Department of Education does is

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<v Speaker 1>supplement state resources to fund a variety of programs.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's one thing I want y'all to understand. Said

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<v Speaker 2>this earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to get a little more specific. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a difference between the State Board of Education and

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Education. The state Board of Education, and

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<v Speaker 1>this does vary by state, generally controls the curriculum, instructural materials,

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<v Speaker 1>and handles accountability. They decide the textbooks and the regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of y'all that have a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the education in your community that is a state and

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<v Speaker 1>local issue, not a federal issue. The Department of Education

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<v Speaker 1>is the enforcer of federal laws. They also oversee the

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<v Speaker 1>financial aid programs and conduct educational research. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Education that oversees peil grants. And if that

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<v Speaker 1>is abolished, that would disproportionately impact low income students. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Peil grant recipient and without it, my

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<v Speaker 1>student loan debt would have probably been astronomical. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very key piece of what the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Education does. The Department of Education also oversees the funding

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<v Speaker 1>for students with disabilities, including special ed and for programs

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<v Speaker 1>such as head Start, which is used by nearly eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand children from birth to age five. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Headstar kid two. So hopefully we understand the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between these two.

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<v Speaker 2>Departments and how they operate.

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<v Speaker 1>But beyond Trump's promise to destroy the Department of Education,

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<v Speaker 1>here's another way in which his presidency could potentially impact sports.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who is really happy with not just a

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<v Speaker 1>Trump presidency, but also the re election of Texas Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Cruz, And that would be the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me hit you to some gang.

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Cruse is going to be the new chair of

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<v Speaker 1>the Senior Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction over college sports issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a very strong, very NCAA position.

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<v Speaker 4>Current state of affairs is the wild West. When you

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<v Speaker 4>combine unlimited nil rights with an unlimited transfer portal, we

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<v Speaker 4>are entering an arena where every player goes to the

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<v Speaker 4>highest bidder, and the loyalties of players to teams and

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<v Speaker 4>the ethos of college sports is a real jeopardy. We're

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<v Speaker 4>also at risk of seeing a handful of giant mega

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<v Speaker 4>schools with all the money creating super teams and the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of schools unable to compete, which I think would

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<v Speaker 4>be terrible. To have college athletics succeed, you have to

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<v Speaker 4>have some modicum of parody.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, because before NIL existed, things were so equitable, right,

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<v Speaker 1>The top programs weren't the same programs that were usually

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<v Speaker 1>at the top every year. But you know what has

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<v Speaker 1>happened as a result of this quote, Wild Wild West

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<v Speaker 1>that Ted Cruz talks about is a school like India

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<v Speaker 1>whose football program has largely on a historical level, been terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But they went out, They got a good coach and

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Signetti. They made a huge financial commitment to him

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<v Speaker 1>into bolstering the program. They got thirty one transfers, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they are on the cusp of making the College

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<v Speaker 1>Football Playoff. Did NIL stop Vanderbilt from upsetting Alabama this season?

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<v Speaker 2>It did not.

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<v Speaker 1>So the NCUBA loves to see TAA Cruz coming to

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<v Speaker 1>be chair of this committee because another thing that Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Cruz is solidly against is college athletes being classified as employees.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason the NC DOUBLEA is against that is because

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<v Speaker 1>it opens them up to future lawsuits, and if athletes

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<v Speaker 1>are employees, they couldn't do anything to restrict player movement.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe instead of some of you college football players

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<v Speaker 1>who were doing the Trump dance when you were celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>an end zone, maybe some of y'all should have been

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<v Speaker 1>studying up on how this election might potentially impact your pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you are a college athlete in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas. Because the cat it that Ted Cruz ran against

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<v Speaker 1>is a former Baylor linebacker who played for the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Titans colin already now he has a much different opinion

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<v Speaker 1>than Ted Cruz because he actually played college football and

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<v Speaker 1>professional football.

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<v Speaker 5>Here it is, Yeah, I wouldn't be where I am

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<v Speaker 5>today without the opportunity that college sports gave me. The

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<v Speaker 5>scholarship that I got at Baylor set me on the

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<v Speaker 5>path to go into law school, to playing in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, but then also having a chance to serving Congress,

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<v Speaker 5>and so to me, uh, it's incredibly This is an

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<v Speaker 5>incredibly important institution on top of being an incredibly profitable one.

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<v Speaker 5>And as we've seen this become such a big business now,

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<v Speaker 5>it always had to come to this that at some point,

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<v Speaker 5>the players who were generating so much revenue for everyone else,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to have to benefit from from that themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>As I said in that statement, you know, I really

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<v Speaker 5>struggled when I was at Baylor financially and I was

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<v Speaker 5>on scholarship, you know, but after I paid my rent

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<v Speaker 5>and my bills, there wasn't much leftover. But at the

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<v Speaker 5>same time, I was playing a video game, the NCAA

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<v Speaker 5>football game at that time with my player, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>number thirty four, middle linebacker for Baylor six two to

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<v Speaker 5>two thirty five from Dallas. I wasn't seeing any of

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<v Speaker 5>that revenue, right, And I think that wasn't right either.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, beyond those things I pointed out, of course, another

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<v Speaker 1>really big issue that Trump took on related to sports

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<v Speaker 1>was transgender athletes. Not No poll after poll has shown

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of Americans disagree with trans women playing

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<v Speaker 1>in sports, or trans women playing girls or women's sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the ad that Trump ran to further bolster

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<v Speaker 1>this home.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala support taxpayer funded sex changes for prisonente surgery for prisoners,

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<v Speaker 2>for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the prison system would

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<v Speaker 2>have access. Now, no, I don't want my taxpayer dollars

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<v Speaker 2>going to that. Kamala support transgender sex changes in jail

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<v Speaker 2>with our money.

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala even supports letting buy a lot men compete against

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<v Speaker 1>our girls in their sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala is for day dem President Trump is for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Does the level of response to trans athletes meet the problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Because for all of you that said inflation in the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>where your primary concerns and the reason you voted for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you rank trans girls and women playing women's

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<v Speaker 1>sports on the list of things that are priorities for.

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<v Speaker 2>You that actually impact your life?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked that because of this, the trans population makes

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<v Speaker 1>up less than one percent of the total population in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, but since twenty twenty twenty three states

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<v Speaker 1>have passed laws restricting trans athletes to participate in sports

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<v Speaker 1>according to their assigned gender identity. There are five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand NCAA college athletes, only forty identify as trans and

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<v Speaker 1>that is trans women and men.

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<v Speaker 2>Only one trans athlete in history has won.

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<v Speaker 1>An Olympic medal, Quinn, who won as a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian women's soccer team at the Tokyo Olympics. So

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<v Speaker 1>even the shortest glimpse of history shows you that this

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<v Speaker 1>has not been a prevalent issue throughout. And I need

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<v Speaker 1>to mention this about that ad that ran so successfully

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<v Speaker 1>when both candidates were on the campaign trail. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>why Kamala Harris said that she supported inmates receiving gender

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<v Speaker 1>affirming care is because it's actually the law.

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<v Speaker 2>That same law Trump also had to adhere to when

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<v Speaker 2>he was president.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this law is based off a nineteen seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court ruling which said that states are responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>providing healthcare to inmates. Now, transgender inmates were able to

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<v Speaker 1>expand that rule to include gender affirming care because they

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<v Speaker 1>sued or the right to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is the law.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't matter now that he's president. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>going away because it's based off a Supreme Court ruling. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it could if it's challenged again in court,

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<v Speaker 1>but so far that has not been the case. So

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<v Speaker 1>for all those who were upset about the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>your tax dollars paying for this. It's a law, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's being followed. But I'll say this, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I find so kind of disingenuous about the

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<v Speaker 1>positioning of trans athletes as being the boogeyman and boogie

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<v Speaker 1>women is that for years, by any historical measure, what

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<v Speaker 1>has undermined women's sports the most has been lack of investment,

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<v Speaker 1>lack of resources, lack of media coverage, and generally being

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<v Speaker 1>considered an afterthought. Those are the things that have allowed

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<v Speaker 1>women's sports to be vulnerable. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>protect women's sports, then I would suggest you protect women's

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<v Speaker 1>sports by watching women's sports, by investing financially in women's sports,

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<v Speaker 1>and by making sure that the media covers women's sports

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<v Speaker 1>with the same intensity that they covered some other things,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly some men's sports. Those are the things that undercut

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<v Speaker 1>women's sports. You know, I'll just say in generally that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we think about, you know, the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump could have on the sports world. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think is going to be pretty obvious this

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<v Speaker 1>go around is that I think there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a different normalization of Trump than what we saw before

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<v Speaker 1>now already if you guys watched the UFC fight recently

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<v Speaker 1>John Jones where he won, the one that was in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City. As you see, Donald Trump was there

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<v Speaker 1>with Elon Musk, the Speaker of the House, speaker Mike Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>and John Jones did the Trump dance. You know in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL saw a lot of athletes during the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump Dance. I didn't even know that was a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but all right, saw a lot of college athletes, as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier, doing the Trump Dance. And so whereas

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<v Speaker 1>before I think there was this sort of toxicity that

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<v Speaker 1>was around showing open support of Donald Trump, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that will be there anymore. And I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if that's good or bad, particularly when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>policy wise, some of the things he could do that

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<v Speaker 1>could greatly impact and potentially undermine sports in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways, at least for certain communities within sports. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious to see what happens when he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House and it's that time where a champion

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<v Speaker 1>in any of the major sports, and maybe even the

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA champions, when it's time for them to visit the

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<v Speaker 1>White House remember from the first go around, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of athletes said no, most notably the NBA not Nara.

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<v Speaker 1>NBA team was in the White House to commemorate their

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<v Speaker 1>championship during the Trump years, and to my recollection, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the women's teams that won a championship weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>invited to the White House. I mean some of them went,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that had a lot to do with

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<v Speaker 1>how how that particular coach felt about Donald Trump. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about you, Kim Moulky, because Baylor, the women's team,

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<v Speaker 1>was I think, frankly maybe the only individual women's team

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<v Speaker 1>that went to the White House during his first presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of how much more normalized Trump has become,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that same you know, resistance will be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing I think that has to be considered too,

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<v Speaker 1>is we know that Donald Trump loves to retaliate against

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<v Speaker 1>his enemies real or imagine. You know, as I said before,

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<v Speaker 1>he had no problem singling out Colin Kaepernick, no problem

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<v Speaker 1>threatening NFL owners. He told them in particular that basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't want to sign Colin Kaepernick and

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<v Speaker 1>make an enemy out of him, because, as he put it,

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<v Speaker 1>him coming out and criticizing Colin Kaepernick was a quote

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<v Speaker 1>winning issue for him, and so I am curious as

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<v Speaker 1>to see if criticisms of Trump are a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>muted because they know his propensity for retaliation. And certainly

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<v Speaker 1>there was a very loud crowd that has always been

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<v Speaker 1>there that claims sports and politics don't mix. But I

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<v Speaker 1>see already how those goalposts are moving as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to sports and politics mixing, because now that there are

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<v Speaker 1>more athletes who are being more vocal about their supporter Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>I notice they're not being asked the same questions that

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Kaepernick has been asked about his protests, or they're

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<v Speaker 1>not holding it to the same standard as when Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James said that he was endorsing Kamala Harris, and he

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<v Speaker 1>sat at his locker and answered every question about why

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<v Speaker 1>he was choosing to support her. I'm wondering if that

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<v Speaker 1>same energy is going to be kept with the athletes

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<v Speaker 1>who are now vocally speaking out in support of Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>because frankly, I think that's fair. You know, I've certainly

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<v Speaker 1>never been somebody who has ever wanted athletes to just

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<v Speaker 1>shut up and be quiet, even if I don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with what they're saying. But once you throw it out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the critical thought marketplace, people have a right

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<v Speaker 1>to come at it, and certainly, as a journalist, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a right to ask you, well, why do you

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<v Speaker 1>support this? What do you have to say about supporting

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<v Speaker 1>someone who has been credibly found guilty of sexual assault

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<v Speaker 1>in a court of law. That is a fair question

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<v Speaker 1>to ask an athlete who is vocally supporting Trump. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just curious as to how the media begins

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<v Speaker 1>to cover this in this moment, because I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I have a lot of hopes

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<v Speaker 1>because in many ways, the media is responsible for us

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<v Speaker 1>being in this moment now, and they've been complicit and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly a lot of the misinformation and disinformation. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that I should have any real expectation for

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<v Speaker 1>the media to properly frame and contextualize this moment clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do know this that stick to sportshit is

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<v Speaker 1>out the window. I'm Jamel Hill, and I approve of

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