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Speaker 1: All right, welcome everybody to the bonus episode of Politics,

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Speaker 1: which I'll drop periodically throughout this inaugural season. Now, these

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Speaker 1: episodes won't be like your typical Spolitics episodes. Sometimes it'll

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Speaker 1: be just me as it is today, and sometimes I

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Speaker 1: may have a guess it's just me sort of reacting

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Speaker 1: to things as they say in real time. First, I

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Speaker 1: want to start on the thoughts or my thoughts rather

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Speaker 1: on this election. I've been really careful about sharing my

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this election. I mostly haven't shared it in

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Speaker 1: a public space, just because, you know, I really needed

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Speaker 1: to process and sort of really think about what I

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Speaker 1: say is so revolutionary compared to what other people have

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Speaker 1: been saying. But I think it's pretty clear and it's

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Speaker 1: pretty evident what happened.

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Speaker 2: And as for me, this was.

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Speaker 1: Not something that was surprising in the lightest that Kamala

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Speaker 1: was a direction that we were sort of headed in,

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Speaker 1: you know, and this hasn't just been in the making

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Speaker 1: when Kamala Harris became the head of the Democratic presidential

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Speaker 1: nominee in terms of the ticket, this was something I

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Speaker 1: think that has been going for much longer than that

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Speaker 1: heading towards this particular moment, and mostly because I know

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Speaker 1: this as a journalist and seeing all the information that's

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Speaker 1: out there on social media, is that journalists, or very

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Speaker 1: specifically I should say the Democratic Party, but it's also

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Speaker 1: tied to journalism overall. They've lost the information war, and

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Speaker 1: this is a defeat that was quite clear in to how,

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Speaker 1: you know, some of the various campaign ads, which I'll

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Speaker 1: get into in a moment, but also the way that

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Speaker 1: people were processing the information. And you know, when you

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Speaker 1: looked at any social media site, it was just flooded

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Speaker 1: with misinformation. And I think we're at a point now

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Speaker 1: in society where in our classroom, on campuses, and just

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Speaker 1: to be able to decipher between misinformation, disinformation and truth.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of the feelings that are evoked in

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Speaker 1: this election, often a lot of it was led by misinformation.

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Speaker 1: So I was not surprised, and I'm not saying that's

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Speaker 1: the only reason that people didn't elect Kamala Harris. I

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Speaker 1: think there were other factors that were at play, but

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Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. And here's proof that I wasn't surprised,

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Speaker 1: because about a month ago, I was asked at an

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Speaker 1: event that was put on by the Atlantic, where I

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Speaker 1: also know, right I'm a contributing writer for The Atlantic,

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Speaker 1: as many of you know, where I cover the intersection

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Speaker 1: an event on Michigan State's campus and I was asked

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Speaker 1: who I thought would win this election.

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Speaker 2: And here's what I said, quickly before we go.

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Speaker 3: If the election were held today, who's going to win?

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump? If the election were held today, who's going

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Speaker 3: to win? Kamala Harris?

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Speaker 2: I think Trump will win.

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Speaker 3: But there's three weeks left. There's a lot of game left,

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Speaker 3: as they.

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Speaker 1: Say, so clearly I did see this coming, but I

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Speaker 1: As many of you all know, I've had my own

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Speaker 1: personal history with Donald Trump. Back in back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: I tweeted that the president is a white supremacist. These

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Speaker 1: have been proven ever since then and were proven before

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Speaker 1: I said it. And that tweet, of course, changed my

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Speaker 1: It changed a lot of things. And the president in response,

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Speaker 1: Secretary Sarah Helckabe Sanders, who is now the govern of Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: also said that I should be fired. So yes, I

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Speaker 2: But also as a black woman. And that is.

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Speaker 1: Because I think for a lot of black women we

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Speaker 2: But I think it was particularly evident.

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Speaker 1: But now it's time to turn the page, and I

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Speaker 1: a lot different than it was the first time around.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you all remember from.

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Speaker 1: That time when Trump was first in office, he was

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Speaker 2: Now, even though we don't have.

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Speaker 1: A Colin Kaepernick in this moment, I think one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest things we have to look at is how

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Speaker 1: Trump's plans for the US Department of Education, how that

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Speaker 1: So I want you to pay attention to something he

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Speaker 2: We're going to end education coming out of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: We're going to send it all back to the States. Now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, a lot of people are applauding this, which

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Speaker 1: because a lot of us don't really fully understand the

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Speaker 1: I think there is certainly a degree of satisfaction that

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Speaker 1: by certain metrics it shows America is still one of

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Speaker 1: But let's take a look at the Department of Education

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Speaker 1: important elements of the Department of Education is enforcing Title nine. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you the importance of Title nine,

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Speaker 1: Title nine was enacted by Congress in nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 1: Title nine prohibits sex discrimination in education. When Title nine

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Speaker 1: but that's essentially what happened. The Department of Education enforces

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Speaker 1: in his first term, Trump appointed Betsy Devas as the

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Speaker 1: take some teeth out of Title nine protections. Now, among

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Speaker 1: the many new policies that Betsy DeVos instituted to Title

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Speaker 1: Now as it is, there are some eighty percent of

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Speaker 1: go back to something I said previously. I need you

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Speaker 1: all to understand how the Department of Education actually works.

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Speaker 1: So in nineteen seventy nine, former President Jimmy Carter he

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Speaker 1: split off the Education from the Department of Health, Education,

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Speaker 1: and Welfare. Now, what the Department of Education does is

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Speaker 2: So here's one thing I want y'all to understand. Said

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to get a little more specific. There

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Speaker 1: the Department of Education. The state Board of Education, and

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Speaker 1: this does vary by state, generally controls the curriculum, instructural materials,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of y'all that have a problem with

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Speaker 1: the education in your community that is a state and

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Speaker 1: local issue, not a federal issue. The Department of Education

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Speaker 1: Department of Education that oversees peil grants. And if that

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Speaker 1: is abolished, that would disproportionately impact low income students. Now,

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