WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Knicks beat Celtics to advance to ECF, Aaron Gordon doubtful for Game 7 with hamstring injury! 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:11.480 The volume. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.600 Hell On, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.640 After the New York Knicks advanced to the Eastern Conference 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:27.360 Finals one nineteen to eighty one over the Boston Celtics. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.000 So much for the Celtics are better without Jason Tatum. 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:33.960 I think they could have used Jason Tatum tonight, but 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.960 we'll talk about that a little later. But the New 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.000 York Knicks are going to the Eastern Conference Finals for 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:45.200 the first time since nineteen ninety nine. Jess Ylen Mercy 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.839 was three years old since nineteen ninety nine. 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The New York Dicks had the third 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.160 longest conference final drop twenty four years in the NBA 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.560 that ended tonight. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.320 Jalen Brunston was three years old. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.640 The last time the Knicks made the Eastern Conference Finals, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.560 it was two thousand. Okay, it's two thousand, excuse me 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.120 two thousand. But they do it thanks to a ballance 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:42.119 scoring effort. Miles Bridges twenty two points, at og Ananobi 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.960 twenty three points, Chat twenty one points and twelve rebounds, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.560 Jalen Bronson twenty three points, and Josh Hart had a 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.839 triple double ten points, eleven rebounds, eleven assists as they 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:58.240 roll decisively by what thirty What is that? 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.200 Thirty eight? By thirty eight. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:05.079 Points over the Brooklyn Brooklyn over the Boston Celtics plagued 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.800 without Jason Tatum. There's been a lot of discussion over 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.280 the last couple of days. Oh, this team plays better 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.720 without Jason Tatum. You mean to tell me a team 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.600 is better without a four time All NBA selection, a 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.200 perennial All Star. You trying to tell me your team 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.720 is better without one of the better players in the NBA. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.120 I never believe that for a second. Don't listen one game. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.040 Anything can happen, we know, but you and everybody know 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.880 that they were not beating the Knicks. Where the Knicks 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:34.079 weren't gonna lose three games without the team's best player. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:35.600 But they rolled by thirty eight. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.920 And they're going to the Eastern Conference Finals to make 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.640 to face the team that they faced in the Eastern 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:45.400 Conference semifinals last year, that is the Indiana Facers. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:50.480 Joe, you watched this game. I mean you want to 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:50.840 tell it out? 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:56.119 Okay, you did say oo oo Cho said, are you 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.560 guys sure? Yes, the Knicks don't have a chance. I said, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.520 you know, I think the Celtics five, maybe six. I 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.680 think the Celfiics don't get it. You're like, nah, I'm 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:06.560 gonna ride with the Knicks. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.440 I said, I'm riding with the Knicks. Now listen, I am. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.120 You and the brand you the Grand Marshal taking off 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:11.840 the Grand Marshall. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.839 Now before we go on, I want to make sure. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.280 Now I don't know if we remember, ash, I might 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.760 need you to go back and check the tape because 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.960 I remember. If I'm not mistaken, both of you picked 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.040 the Selsis to win. I think Uncle you saying in 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.080 five Joe, you might have said six. And on top 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.360 of that, then I said, okay, let's make it light 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.839 of yourself. Let's make a little side bet. Both of 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.880 you chose to say a certain dollar amount. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.760 I ain't bet nothing, I said, I ain't betting the 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.160 man that already owe me money. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:38.960 Okay, that's what you said. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.599 Yeah, ye, what I'm saying. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.279 But Joe, Joe, you owe me five hundred. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.600 Joe, we ain't bet no five hundred man. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.599 We said five hundred. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:52.840 We bet a light hunded. You know he'll come. He 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.080 tried to get over there, abody I. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.760 Get trying to charge a little interest. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:04:59.000 We had. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.280 We had a nice little bet. You won the bet many. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.600 So you mean my cashyeh? I wish what you need 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.240 cause I don't think. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.400 We'll talk about it later. We ain't got time right now. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:08.880 We got time. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:15.400 What we got Yeah, the next got four guys with 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.960 twenty points or more. You got a triple double from 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.960 Josh Hart who was that Miles McBride came up the bench, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.640 gave the ten slid quick points and they rolled. They 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.520 were nineteen or twenty one from the free throw line, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.960 sixteen to forty six from the three. They shot forty 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.240 six percent from the floor. Uh, they did a great 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.280 job of they turned the ball over a little, but 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:33.920 it didn't matter. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:34.640 Uh. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.800 You know, you could tell early on in the game 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.320 how this game was gonna end. It was not gonna 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.600 end favorably for the Boston Celtics. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:43.200 Uh. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.600 They really had only one guy that could that could 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.240 get anything going because early on, only Jaylen Brunts, excuse me, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.000 Jaylen Brown was doing anything. Everybody else was just clanking 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.320 and clanking and clanking, and you know, like, I wonder 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.400 how many points the Nick is gonna actually win by 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.280 because this is not this is not gonna be a 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.240 close game and it's not gonna be pretty. Joe, what 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.200 do you think? What do you look other than being outgunned? 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.440 Why did you think it got so so out of 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.880 hand so quick for the Boston Celtics. I think the 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.039 Knicks really understood the moment. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.440 They didn't want to go back to Boston, and they 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.680 just came out with that fight and that desired the 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.240 intensity to win and get this series over with. I 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.520 thought Jaylen Brown came to play, he gave him a 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.880 great little boost. But man, when you get ky ocher, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.120 when you get down like that in the playoffs, and 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.640 you got the five power to fight back. Man, this 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.279 game was overwhelmed before it even really got started. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.919 To be honest with you. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.080 Derick Wright was a minus forty five and plus minus 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:45.680 Jaylen Brown was minus thirty holiday minus thirty four, Luke 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.880 Cornett was minus sixteen. Al Horf was minus thirty three. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.640 I don't know if I've ever seen somebody minus forty five. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.200 That's I mean, just like Shay was plus fifty one. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.640 I don't know if I've ever seen somebody minus forty 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.320 five and plus minus Joe. But you're right, I mean, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:01.920 the Knicks got to go and they powdered them on 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.640 the glass plus nineteen on the glass, plus plus six 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:11.320 offensive rebound, everything, everything, Everything was in the next paper 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.280 and the scoreboard would indicate that it was a close 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.840 ball game. In this first quarter twenty six twenty You're like, okay, Boston, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.600 you hung around, But the next thing you know, it's 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:22.960 a thirty eight to seventeen. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:24.960 So now you're down twenty seven. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.120 You're down thirty five at the end of the you're 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.040 thirty five at the end of the soul. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.920 Yeah, this is a tough one because the Kniggs got 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.760 six guys in double figures. So by committee they beat you. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.320 They two top guns, Cat and Brunson. You know, they 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.160 did their thing as far as you know, playing being efficient, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.880 making plays, just playing hard. And then these other guys 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.640 like the Ogs O GK twenty three to night. I mean, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.880 this is this close out basketball. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:54.040 Man. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:58.080 They did not want to go back to Boston and Man, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:03.760 New York is in a frenzy right now, man because okay, hey, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.880 hey hey, they got a chance to make it to 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.920 the finals. Man, and this is uh, this is great 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.600 for basketball. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.960 Yeah, I got a excellent chance. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.360 This. These teams are familiar with each other. Uh, there's 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.600 two different styles. One want to grind you out, the 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:19.880 other one to get up and down. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:21.440 Uh. 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.240 Sometimes the the Knicks will go with their two bigs, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.360 Mitchell Robinson and Cat. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.640 You know, the only big that really that. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.800 The the Pacers have is Miles Turner. They don't really 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.200 play TV Thomas Bryant and and and Miles Turner together. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.160 So it's gonna be very interesting to see because if 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.000 you put Miles Turner on Mitchell Robinson, that means Pascal 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.800 Siakam has to deal with Cat. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:45.400 Cat has the advantage. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.079 And then when Cat gets his button down on the 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.520 block when Cat is not selling for threes. Cat'sungardible. There's 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:55.200 nobody that's currently in the playoffs that can deal with Cat. Nobody, No, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.280 not not if he when he decides like I'm going 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:57.480 to the. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.600 Block, Yeah, I think, Hey, okay, I think you're gonna 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.640 have to play Cat at the five a lot just 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.080 this series against Indiana, because you're gonna have to. You're 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.360 gonna have to deal with Seetam. He's gonna he's a 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.679 very important piece in this series. Who could who can 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.320 ultimately win you a series. I don't like the fact 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.640 that Kat would have to guard him, So I think 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:17.280 you're gonna. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.800 Kat probably have to guard He'll probably guard Miles Turner. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.840 Bro Miles Turner just step out to the three man, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.320 Miles will stretched five. I'm saying, if Kat is in 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.160 there with with Big Fella, if yeah, with Mitchell Robinson, Yes, yes, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.200 but uh man, this is this. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.240 These two teams kind of mirror each other to me. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:37.120 They they both blue collar teams. Yeah, gonna beat you 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.200 by committity, You don't. You don't really know who's gonna 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.320 be for the niggas Brunston has been, you know, clutch 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.559 pretty much the whole playoffs, the whole season. But this 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.160 is gonna be a good series, man, two gritted teams 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:49.959 who ain't gonna play. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.160 A lot of pretty basketball. It's gonna be some ugly games. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.440 Yeah, and you got you know, you got guys that 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.480 can defend. You got Nim Hard that can defend, the 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.800 Smith that can defend. You got a Matt Burn who 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.319 can defend. So you got some guys Siakam that can 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.240 defend the same thing. You got Miles Bridges, you got og, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.160 you got Josh Hart. You got guys on the Knicks 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.880 that can defend at an elite level. So I agree 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.200 with you. It's gonna be who takes care of the 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.240 basketball the best. But if you turn the basketball over 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.560 against the Pacers, hey, they landed up before you. You 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.480 look around at the fishal like that was a file. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.720 They're laying the ball up at the other end. So 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.719 these are two teams that we saw them last year 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.240 when seven games Indiana went to MSG one game seven 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.200 on the Knicks floor. But this is a different Knicks team. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.000 This is not there. They traded out Julius Random, brought 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.040 in a cat, and it seems to be working, really, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.360 really well, I mean, you know Cat and them there 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.720 a specially Julius randold them they're in the Western Conference Finals. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.320 They're waiting the winner of the Nuggets and the OKC Thunder. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.839 But I thought the Knicks. I don't know if the 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.640 Nicks can play any better. I mean, you got four 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.000 guys with twenty plus points and look at the plus. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.200 And you got Josh hart Gay your triple double. Uh uh, 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.920 and and and and Miles McBride who's been playing very 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.319 well in the limited role that he's been playing, making 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.520 big shots, playing some really good defense. Uh, it's gonna 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.880 be a great series. Would I be surprised if he 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:14.839 winning six or seven? 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.320 Nope? I would not. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.319 Okay, well, I got I got the I got the 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.800 most important question for both of you. Again, before a 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.559 series starts, now, when it comes in boxing styles, win fights, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.720 a third person style, you understand who probably has a 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.720 better chance of winning based for the outcome. So again, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.640 you got the Knicks, hard hat, blue collar team. They're 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.040 gonna get it the hard way. And he got the 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.319 guy damn four about one pacers that like to run 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.640 up and down the court. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.440 Now who we got winning the series? 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.520 Now you say it Mike, you said you can see 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.400 it going six or seven of five and six whatever 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.200 you said, Yo, what you think what series going to? 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:52.800 Man? 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.520 Listen, I'm downed the Knicks, bro, this whole playoffs. 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:58.600 Now we're waking up. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:00.680 Can I tell? Can I talk? 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.840 I've been down to the kniggas I had Detroit, you know, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.280 giving them problems. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.000 And uh, they did gave them more problems than the Celtics. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.079 They gave give them problems. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.280 But I think they learned through those series, through the series, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.600 or they learned a lot about themselves as far as 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.400 being resilient. You know, they lost their first game at home, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.320 and I just thought it was gonna be an uphill climb. 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.040 But they pretty much handled that series, and I think 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.840 it prepared them for you know, this series right here 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:27.600 against Boston. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.200 Many were they were gritty, they were hungry. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.960 Obviously they were the healthier team, and I just thought, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.400 you know, they had guys made plays at the right time, 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.600 and I think it's their time, Bro. So I'm saying 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.240 they have to say this. I don't really want to 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.600 bet against the Knicks no more, man, but but Ojo, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.480 the Pacers got six dudes averaging double figures in the playoffs. Right, 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.840 they got six maybe even maybe seven dudes averaging double 0:12:55.840 --> 0:13:00.240 figures in the playoffs. These two teams, Man are so scared, Harry, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.320 and you don't really you don't know what you're gonna 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:03.000 what you're gonna. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.640 Get out of them. I think, like I said, the 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.400 same style as far as fight. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:11.640 Yep, I'm giving an edge to the Knicks because they 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:12.720 got home court advantage. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.440 Now you want to they got home part advantage, man, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.079 chill what you want from I. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:18.640 Was trying to I was trying to double it nothing 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.120 that bet. See if you want to, you know, run 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:21.679 it back. But okay, okay, we. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:22.439 Might get, we might get. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.640 We might can put a little something on the on 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.600 on this game seven coming up and the next series 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.080 in the Western Conference. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:30.960 I hold your horses, what's game seven? 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:31.240 Okay? 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.240 See in the Nuggets, maybe who you got? 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.600 I know, I know you look like you got dimple. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.840 So I'm gonna go ahead and take Okay, see, list. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:45.920 I like I like the young bulls, young bulls. Listen, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:46.720 I like s G. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.559 A to show up, the show out and close the 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.120 game out the way it should be closed out. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.560 Well it sound like we're thinking of like then yeah. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.520 Well, it's not like somebody stand at the back but 0:13:58.840 --> 0:13:59.199 go ahead. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.480 So when when does the Eastern Conference Finals kick off? Monday? 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.600 A Tuesday? I think Tuesday Tuesday? Okay, so get a 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.080 little rest. Uh, pacers are well rested. They've been off 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.880 for the last so they're gonna be off damn near 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.440 a week by the time by the time they play, 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:17.720 so they'll be well rested. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.600 I like, you know, I would I be surprised. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.040 I think it's going six to seven games that nobody's winning, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.520 nobody's sweeping, nobody's winning in five. I like six or seven, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.920 and they are you know, look at them, Joe, you 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.640 when you look at how they play, and look at 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.600 how they you know, the starters, and you know, I 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.880 think the Knicks probably have like three or four guys 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.600 in double figures. Man, it's just hard to pick Brunson 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.320 because that game is if the game isn't in the clutch. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.120 Moment, you don't trust it. I don't. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.840 I'm not so sure I trust anybody more in the 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.640 postseason than I trust Jalen Brunson in a clutch moment. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.960 I agree, he's been special, especially down the stretch or 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.560 when he's been counted out. He's He's come through time 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.280 and time again in this postseason. And that's why I 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.280 give the I mean, I give the Knicks to edge. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.240 Obviously they got home court advantage, and I think Brunton 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.840 is gonna be a difference maker, you know in this series. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.320 Yeah, on that, But they're moving on. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.560 Knicks are going to the Eastern Conference Finals and one 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:22.440 nineteen eighty one victory over the Boston Celtics minus Jason Tatum. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.800 I'm not so sure had they had Jason Tatum better, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.000 it'd have been any different, But they didn't have him. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.880 The Knicks made sure left no doubt. We're not going 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.640 back to Boston. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:33.480 We're done. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.920 We're about to take two three days off and get 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.080 ready for the Eastern Conference Finals because this is our 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.480 chance to get to the NBA Finals, something that we 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.880 haven't done since two thousand. Sham's had a very important 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.000 update to day on Aaron Gordon's hamstring. Different Nuggets forward 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.560 Aaron Gordon has been diagnosed with a left ham string 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.840 string and the status is in doubt for Game seven 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:58.440 against the Oklahoma City Thunder. Sources tell ESPN major development 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.760 heading into Sundays three thirty pm Eastern game ABC for 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.920 the Western Conference Finals. Birth We saw that. I saw 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.440 him grab it last night. He started rubbing it. I 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.560 saw the way he was walking and o Jo. We 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.600 just talked about it the last night with Sean Marrier. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.120 I was like, I don't like that. I don't I 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:16.800 didn't like the way he grabbed it. I said, in 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.720 this instance of it, decided, I don't know if it'll 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.520 be close if if he can't go and it doesn't 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.200 look like he's gonna go, No, he's. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:25.840 Not gonna be able to go. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.400 I mean, what happened to him is really no different 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:29.840 than what happened to Steph Curry. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.600 You know, once you feel, once you full to feel 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.479 that pull, once you feel that paints. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:35.160 It's a rap. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.480 At that point, that's that's grade one. That's grade one. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.480 So you're gonna miss. But maybe at least three games, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.640 maybe four if that. If Yet wasn't able to come back, 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:46.760 and Aaron Gourdon not gonna be able to come back. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.360 Either, Oh yeah, he wouldn't. Steph wasn't able to come 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.080 back in like four games. So we'll make you think 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.160 he's gonna be able to come back in forty eight hours. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.800 He's not gonna be able to un He's not gonna 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.000 be able to because as soon as you try to 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.440 come out there and make any kind of any kind 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:03.440 of hurky jerky movement and again once they grab again like. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.560 A second time, you're dumb. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.200 Serious, Yeah that's right. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.120 And it's like, yeah, this absolutely impacts him because he's 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:11.400 a guy. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.280 He can defend, he can rebound, he can score. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.760 Now, the last game, he didn't have that big I mean, 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.320 he didn't score that much, but we know where Aaron 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.240 Gordon he hit the big shot. He had two game 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.840 winning shots. He hit the game win, had the game 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.680 winning dunk against the Clippers, and he had the game 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.640 winning three uh in Game one against Okay against Okay 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.320 see in the first game, So we know what he represents. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.040 He's a guy that can defend multiple positions. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.040 You see him guard Shape, You'll see him guard Jayla Williams, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.480 He'll slide the chat. He can guard up multiple h positions, 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.760 and he can go get you twenty and double digit rebounds. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.000 I don't know where they can get that kind of scoring, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.240 where they categ where they can get that kind of versatility. No, Look, 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.359 I know Strawford had a great game. Russy has been 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.560 the energize, the buddy off the bench for him. But 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.199 you got to ride a Russ roller coaster. I just 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.200 don't know, Joe, where they get that kind of versatility, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.680 where you get that scoring, that rebounding from If Aaron 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.320 Gordon can't play and it doesn't look like he's going 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:08.200 to play. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.840 Nah, I think and outside of Jokic, I think Gordon 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.000 has been pretty much the most consistent you know. I 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.439 know it's been buried, but for the most part, Gordon 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.439 has won them games. He won them to last Yeah, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:25.160 so uh, he's been a huge piece of their success, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.240 you know, in this postseason. So without him, O, Joe, 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.840 I mean, you're gonna have to lean on some of 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.520 them young guys you got over there, and hopefully they 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.520 can come through and have a big game. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.920 But Michael Porter Jr. Needs to have the game of his. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.680 Life and he needs to be are you saying to 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.520 have the game in his life? But how's he having 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.960 single digit goal I don't understand that. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.119 The injury is I mean, if the injury that that 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.560 Michael Porter Junr. Has, if it's that bad where he's 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.840 inefficient and he can't shoot, he's not really contributing offensively 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:56.040 or defensively. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.800 I'm not sure why they just don't start Russ. I 0:18:59.080 --> 0:18:59.800 don't understand. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.800 Well, you said, you and Joe said, y'all want those 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.600 points off the bench. Yeah, you need that spark plug 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.480 because you know one thing Runt's gonna do. He gonna 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.560 get your energy and effort. Yeah, that's hard to get 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.840 from a lot of guys nowadays. So you need that 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.199 spark off the bench if y'all do come out flat, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.520 or somebody who can come in and sustain if y'all 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.640 do get off to a great start. But man, that's yeah, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.840 you're gonna need somebody to have an add of body experience. 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.680 If Gordon a't gonna be able to go, but if 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.080 he got that grade one, he might as well hang 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.880 it up. You can put you can put as much 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.359 tape on the hamstring you want to by, but you 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.640 go to moving around, it's a rap's gonna it's gonna 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:36.080 pull again. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:37.040 I agree. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.560 Like, look, Yo played unbelievable last night. He had twenty nine, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.200 fourteen and eight. Uh, you might need to have thirty nine, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.280 seventeen and twelve. And Jamal Murray probably need to go 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.360 be a have an efficient twenty six to thirty two 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.760 and Michael Porter Junior is gonna need to give you 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.879 twenty plus points for them to have a chance. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.399 It could be a spare similar situation to what we 0:19:59.440 --> 0:19:59.920 saw tonight. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.320 The crowd got into the building and what was of 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.760 six point All of a sudden, you go into the half, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.359 you're down by twenty one, you're down by twenty seven points. 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.200 And look in the playoffs, when you get down by 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.679 that minute, it's hard to come down. The Knicks have 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.800 done it on several occasions. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.399 They received them get down, they got firepower, they got guys. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.080 Bruston he leads the NBA and clutch points for prints 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.600 for the point so he can go get you twenty 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:33.760 twenty five in a quarter. 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:34.600 Uh. 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.600 They've been fortunate in that sense, and that's why down 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:43.520 the stretch man they've been more successful than not. So, man, 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:46.600 I think we're gonna see the Knicks in the finals. Yeah, 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:47.440 it looks like it. 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:53.280 That's what I mean. I think ESPN would like that. Oh, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.360 because I don't know, I don't know. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.480 You got to have the Knicks because they're the only 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.640 one that has a national follow everybody else is regional 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.200 people in them for the Pacers, people in Okay, see 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.199 go to root for Okay. See people that denverer go 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.760 root for Denver. People in Minnesota. But the Knicks is 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:15.040 a household brand and so and plus you got that. 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:16.680 You think about the markets. 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:22.119 The got Minnesota, you got Oklahoma, you got Denver, and 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.400 then you got New York. 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.520 Okay, y'all want to jump the gun on this, but 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.119 let's say let's say the Knicks do make it to 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:31.639 the finals. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.360 Who would y'all want to see them play against? 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.640 I know, I know, we still got some basketball to play. 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.520 A man, there we go. 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.720 I want because I won't see I won't see Cat 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.600 and Julius they got swapped each other. Yeah cause somebody 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.359 go say, see, y'all, y'all made a mistake that this 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.160 could have been y'all if they make. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:54.680 It, if they both make it to the finals, we're 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:55.560 still gonna say. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.720 That, of course, because who win? 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.040 Okay, Okay, Okay. 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.200 Hey, I won no no, you see, if you had me, 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:05.679 the role would have reversed. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:09.520 If you had me, you kept me, Hey, hey, oh Joe, Yeah, 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.959 it happened in Minnesota and the Knicks, except for bed partner. 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.040 Believe that who you got, you got who you got 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:18.920 in Minnesota. 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:20.520 Yeah, the Wolves and Young Wolves. 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:26.359 Hey, hey and Joe, Imagine New York if they boyster 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:27.879 god damn championship trophy. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.119 Oh man, come on, imagine the city of New. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.000 York if they helped when the god damn Championship. 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.240 I mean that's like like when when a Boston or 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.120 the Lakers. Because you talking about Cornerstone franchises, you talking 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:41.560 about like from the beginning, it's. 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:42.159 Gonna be bigger than that. 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.560 Oh yeah, for your because it's been so long, just 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.239 because of the duration and you got to go back 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:48.320 to what seventy three? 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.840 Yeah, yeah, that's the last time they won a championship. 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:52.439 The Knicks. 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:58.480 Yeah, man, yeah, hey, them boys ain't gonna be no 0:22:58.560 --> 0:22:59.960 wrong in New York. Did that happened? 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.560 Hey, listen, everything free, man, everything free. 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:10.600 Look here, If Jalen Bronson brings the championship to the knickt. 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.880 He golded, Yeah he is. 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.960 He's looked at like Jeter, He's looked at like straight Hand, 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.000 he looked at like l t. He's looked at like 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:26.720 those great Yankees. That's how he'll be looked at, no question. 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.880 Think about how they revered out those seventy teams Clyde Fraser, 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:32.439 Earl the pearl and and. 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:35.000 What was rested? 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:39.359 So Wills reed, Look how they revered those bro have 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.760 a lot of people don't even remember. Only Spike Lee 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.560 remember the winning championship back then. Everybody else probably wasn't 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.800 even born though, like two months old. Right, right for 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:54.560 him to do that, especially at his size, at his side, 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.879 Oh Joe six and he brings a championship. It's something 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.920 about It's something about the little guy. It's something about 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:03.959 the Iversons that we could wrap up. 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:04.320 Man, I. 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.840 Saw her y'ut man, Hey, y'all ain't much bigger than me. 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.679 And you know the funny thing about it is is 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.280 Ai was short, he was smaller stature. Jalalen Brunching is 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.640 short and smaller stature. But they play like they play big. 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.000 They play like they six six six seven yep, Oh man. 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.560 Man, you couldn't let many. I had to have been 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:30.280 six six six seven. What hey, hey, hey, that's hey. 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:31.840 That's why he don't give us. That's why he don't 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.320 give us everything. He can't he can't give us everything. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.879 What what if Brunce was six six right? He he 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:40.560 ain't gonna give us everything. He's gonna give you. 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.600 He's gonna get you enough to work with. O Joe, 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:43.840 you know what I'm saying. 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.560 I will give you some tools now, yeah, give some 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.399 tools about you which worked? 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:50.880 Right? 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.960 You're trying to cheat? Now, O Joe, you want to 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.480 be about six four? What if OO was six? Gonna 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:56.960 give you anything? 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:58.719 I'm sixth I'm already six three. 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.600 Now, don't worry about the Joe. 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:10.240 Yeah, man, I hate you know what I hate this? 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.879 This is a game seven and one of the team's 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.000 key players isn't going to be there. 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.239 Yeah, he was already up. He's already up. 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.879 Your climb, So now you tell me I got to 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.760 climb the mountain and I ain't got no shoes. I mean, 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.399 I understand if you don't give me no mountain boots, 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.960 but dam at least they may have some some gortex, 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:30.720 some sneakers. 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.000 So now your trail shoes or something. 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.679 Hey, hey, it's destined. It's destined for some teams to 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.720 make it. Uncle, he got it is he has the 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.879 level of playing field sometime, you know what I mean? So, uh, 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.800 this is this is why I feel like the road 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.720 for success for the Timberwolves is high man, because you know, 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.480 I think they they've been resting, and I think they 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.240 understand the moment as well. And I think I just 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.520 think it'd be so cool for basketball. Man, if we 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:05.280 could get the Timberwolves versus the Knicks in the finals, 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:05.680 Oh my. 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.600 God, that'd be nice. Yeah. 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:12.160 Yeah, it's gonna be different, though, it's gonna be the Yeah, 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.720 I mean the Knicks. You need the Knicks, you need it. 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.920 I mean, you can't have OKC in Indiana. I mean 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.600 you could, but boy, boy. 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.359 That's that's that's that's ugly. 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.320 That we gotta put some respect on any other name. No, 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:30.600 we gotta put some respect. 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:30.879 You know. 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.320 The team is legit. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.320 you you can't say nothing bad about the team because 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.399 they get up and down the court. They can they 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.720 can defend when they want to defend, but they're more 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.520 interested in getting the ball out than there or taking 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.120 it out or taking it off the rim and getting 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:45.800 up and down the court. 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.520 And sometimes they get a little careless. But no, no, no, no, no. 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.359 They got guys that can defend them hard Matt burn 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.280 or Niece Smith. 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:53.720 They got guys that can defend. 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.680 Oh absolutely, They got guys that come off the bench 0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.800 Matt Burn and McConnell comes off the bench. 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:00.840 Giving you quality, quality minutes. 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.439 Occasionally TV will come out to bench and give you 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:04.480 ten solid minutes. 0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.520 He'll get you a couple of points, a couple of rebounds. 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.679 But it's it's that five with macconmberland math, it's that 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:11.560 it's that seven. 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:13.639 Now do we know they're committee. 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.280 They're gonna look to have five, six guys in double 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.120 figures every somebody might have twenty one to twenty two, 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.160 and they're gonna have a bunch of teams nineteen eighteen, sixteen, fifteen. 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.879 That's how they play. That's how they play. But everything 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.280 is really predicated on how aggressive is Halliburton. 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:29.760 Yep. 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.560 When he is aggressive, they're a different team. Sometimes he 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.000 becomes too passive. He doesn't look to get his shot, 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:37.720 he doesn't look to get all the way down the hill. 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.160 He's looking at you know, start and then and distribute. Nah, 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.520 you got to stay aggressive. When he stays aggressive, their different. 0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.320 They were behind against Cleveland and then all of a 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.800 sudden he got aggressive. He started shooting the ball. Yeah, 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:52.760 now we saw. 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:53.320 Yeah. 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.680 I think Haliburt is the key and the other guys 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.760 around them, the SAMs, the Turners. You know those those 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.560 guys can explode at any given night. I think Hallenburg 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.240 definitely has to come out and be aggressive against Bronson. Man, 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.800 this is this is gonna be much watch TV guys. 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.119 You know these dudes, they've competed, they've been doubted the 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.680 whole year. We already know what Hallerburg has been going 0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.760 through as far as being the most what overrated player? 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.720 Yeah yeah, so. 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.280 He's playing for something and he's been showed up, and 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.840 I'm expecting this this series to go no different. 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.760 You know, a drag. 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.160 Out fight, two teams just being relentless amongst each other, 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.080 and man, I just think it's gonna come down to 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.080 home court advantage. 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.600 Ojo Yeah. 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.720 I think they'll probably start Michel Bridges will start on Myles, 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.960 We'll start on on Halliburton. Do you think so O 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.720 G O G will start on OG will start on siakam. 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:54.520 Oh Yeah yeah, yeah, that's gonna be nice. When when 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:55.520 that's year, when that sear we. 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.800 Start again Tuesday? 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.880 Yeah, yeah, I think that's I think that's how they started. 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.480 I think I think Avon Turner. Then I think Josh 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:09.080 Hart will probably take He'll take either them hard or 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.400 or Nie Smith. 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.920 Right, right, man, there's some good match shows, bro. Yeah, 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:17.800 oh for sure. 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.720 Sure it may not be the prittiest basketball, but you're 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.200 talking about some dudes competing at the highest level. Yeah, 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.080 and trying to and then Brunson, Brunston and take mem 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.560 Hard or Nie Smith, uh o g o g oh, 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:31.320 g is gonna take. 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:35.120 It's gonna take Siaka obviously, Kat Miles Turner. I believe 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:40.440 they start. I believe Michael Bridges because he's long uh 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.160 and will take will take. 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:44.240 Halliburton. 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:49.320 Yeah, and then you could you can match Hart and Brunstling, Okay, 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.560 Nie smithm Hard go from there. But I don't I 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.400 don't think they put I don't think they start brunting. 0:29:55.440 --> 0:30:00.400 I don't think they start brunting on Halliburton. What you're thinking, Joe, Nah. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:00.600 They're not. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.840 They probably they probably gonna start him on on them 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.240 Hard or a. 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:06.600 Smith East Smith. 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.520 Yeah, you're right, Yeah, because what you don't want is 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.360 for Hallibert to get comfortable, So you're gonna have to 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.960 keep keep somebody long rangey on him, pesky, somebody challenge 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:18.400 them shots. 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.120 They can pick him up, that can pick him up 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.400 ninety four feet. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:24.880 on man, It's gonna be a fun I know. 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.400 You know, we talk about the Knicks making it to 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.400 the finals, but time and time again, the Pacers have 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.400 put themselves in position to be successful. 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:34.840 So they've been. 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:36.880 They've been pulling out wins and I don't think they 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.600 could get so it's hard for me to go against 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:40.800 the grain with these dudes. 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.080 Man, they've been they just like New York. 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.000 They've been gritty the whole season and it's not gonna 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.880 stop now, like it's just gonna continue. 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.200 So I'm looking forward to a good one. 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.800 New York is moving to the Eastern Conference Finals one 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.160 nineteen eighty one over the Boston Celtics. They will face 0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.720 the Indiana Pacers, who dispatched the number one seed in 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:04.680 the Eastern Conference in five games, the Cleveland Cavaliers. Jimmy 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.560 Butler says, it's really refreshing to be Steph Curry's sidekick 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.560 on the Warriors. To come here and know I'm second 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.280 to Steph. It's a really good thing to be his sidekick. 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:17.240 It's really refreshing. I don't know if I've ever heard 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.040 somebody that used to be in the number one all 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.400 of a sudden happy with being number two. I got 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.240 the expectations of the change because you do realize, Jimmy, 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:25.800 they got you there because you're supposed to be the 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:26.760 piece to get them over the hume. 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.200 Hey, he's played this role before them. He's played with 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.800 d Rose. He knows what it's like to be robbing. 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.120 He knows what it's like to be, you. 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.400 Know, a sidekick to some degree, and he's kind of 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.280 like that. It was in Philly with Embided. 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:42.600 Yeah. 0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.040 Yeah, but again it all started at Chicago, you know, Jimmy. 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.160 Jimmy had a different route and coming to the NBA. 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:50.520 You know, he sat on the bisch in the first 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:51.240 few years. 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.640 Yeah, so when he first round draft pick. 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.960 Yeah, so when he finally got his chance, bro, he 0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.840 embraced it. He took advantage of the moment and he 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.440 a look back. So he understands his role playing with 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.000 Steph and uh, he knows it was gonna make them successful. 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:07.640 O Joe. 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.040 So I think that's why he's trying to starve in 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.320 this robbing role as much as he can, especially if. 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.120 It's gonna help them be successful. Well, he didn't start, 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.800 but he didn't do very well. Maybe maybe he get 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.400 off to a bettle start. Next year against the timber Wolves, 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:22.880 he had that one game and that was it. 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.400 That was it, Joe, I know, because that's because Arcanocho. 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.880 We we trying. We won't Jimmy to score forty and 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.120 fifty points. 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.240 But he was out. 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.960 He was he was he was without Steph Curry, so 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.400 you know, it was it was tough. The onus was 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.520 on him throughout the whole. 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:40.680 Guy. 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.800 I know, he got paid big money, but he wasn't 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.800 gonna be able to beat them Timberwolves by himself. 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:45.040 Man. 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.320 No, we just wanted to give us game that way, 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.600 maybe we get stepped back for Game six, that's all. Hey, look, 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.160 if I'm being honest, he looked like he'd been hobbled 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.400 ever since he took that tough spell against Houston. 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.640 He don't look like he'd been right. 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.880 The way he moved out there, the way yeah, bro, 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:02.680 it all looks a little. 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.959 Orthodox to me. And don't he didn't look like he 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.080 was moving well. 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:12.440 Yeah, I mean I listen, I could. I can understand 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.640 where Jimmy was coming from about being being the robin, 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.680 you know, to to Steph Curry being batman, because I 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.800 took that same approach. Remember hell, I stood on the 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.080 table with Mike Brown and Marvil Lewis and that twenty 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.160 ten season, I'm like, man, listen during the off season. 0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.720 Hey, hey coach, Hey Mike, we need to go get 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.800 to Yo. We need to go get to Yo. 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.320 Now you can understand what I've done for Cincinnati during 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.320 that time, during that tenure, you know, and going in 0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.920 the year ten, I'm like, we need someone like this 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:41.520 to get us over with the hump. We told one 0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.880 of the greatest players of all time and Mike and 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.640 I told Mike Brown and Marv. I said, I have 0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:49.080 no problem taking my back seat to who I know, 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.280 with my own two eyes, is better than me. 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.320 In every statistical category. Bring him here, let's say, if 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:55.280 we can get him help us out. 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.400 I have no problem being being Robin, so I can 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.000 understand where Jimmy's coming from and in a sense and 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.320 taking that back see where the onus is really not 0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.920 on you. They have to do all the work obviously 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.759 for more a little different because it's eleven man game, but. 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:11.839 I get it. I get it. 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.520 Yeah, Look, Steph makes it easier for everybody because the 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.839 floor is more space, there's more tension, eyes on him, 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.920 and there's less eyes on the other four individuals, and 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:25.960 so god, he makes it easy for a lot of 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.400 other people. That's what happens when you play with a 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.200 great player, especially the greater the player of the historically 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.200 great players. The greater the player, the more attention they draw, 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.759 less attention you get. And so now that's why you 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:40.840 hear all about saying, man, it's so easy playing with 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.879 great players. Yeah, because they make your job easier because 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.920 now you're not the focal point they are. Right, Steff 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.600 is always going to probably get the best defender. And 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.200 guess what y'all gonna try to bless hi, y'all gonna 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.759 try to trap him, try to get the ball out 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.759 of his hands. He's gonna swing. He's gonna always do 0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.160 the right thing, make the right late. Now you scrambled 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.920 and try to get back playing playing playing four against 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.640 three because he always gonna have two on the ball 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.600 when he got it, or you're playing four against four. 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.640 The quarter is so space and open, and they missed 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.320 that against the t Warves. 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.759 You know when yep, yeah, you know you need he 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.840 He's a game changer, man, he you know, he's a guy. 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.600 Who can explode for forty to fifty points. You know, 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.359 he was probably gonna have at least one or two 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.960 of them in that series. So without him, it was 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.920 hard for me to see the Warriors getting pass him. 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.239 And that's the thing when you look at it, I 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.040 don't know if it gets any easier because as as 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:42.160 as as Steph gets older, right, the West gets tougher. Yeah, 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:47.120 there's a possibility Yannis comes to the West. There's a possibility, 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.160 you know, the Lakers make a move, the Clippers can 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.239 make a move. There's so much gore, I mean, that's 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.000 why you have to really seize the moment. 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:55.280 In the moment. 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.960 Oh next year, man, Hey we get another year with 0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:58.960 Jimmy on our belt. 0:35:59.200 --> 0:35:59.359 Bro. 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:04.400 That ain't no guarantee, It's not Ain't no guarantee, Ojo. 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.200 Many the Rockets mess around and made to make a 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.920 trade and they get Yannis, they get another piece boom. 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.719 The Clippers, maybe they move something to the Lakers, maybe they 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:19.560 trade Austin Reeves and get a true big Ain't no guarantees, man, 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.239 That's why you have to take advantage of it in 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:21.840 that situation. 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.880 That's why I say Boston. You know, Boston won the championship. 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.520 Oh, man, they're gonna be loaded for you to look 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.120 and just like that, Jason Tatum gone for a year. 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.480 Jason Tatum not playing next year. Yeah, now he's. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:37.120 Not playing next year. If I'm not mistakeing, Kevin Ram 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:42.160 miss two seasons. Dam yes, it's it's definitely unfortunate. 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:42.439 Man. 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.520 He missed. He missed eighteen months. He got hurt in June. 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.319 The season started in October, he didn't play. Then they 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.640 came back, he didn't start to play. They end up 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:57.920 going to the bubble. He didn't play. So this is 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.200 not an you know, this is not an injury. You know, 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.800 a cl You see guys come back in seven months, 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:03.360 eight months. 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.520 I ain't happy with no achilles. Yeah, that takes you. 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.359 It takes a lot of time because guess what, you're 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.759 not bearing for six to eight weeks. Then you got 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.800 to build that calf all the way back up. And 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:22.640 there's a really high rate of retears and achilles. So 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.880 you have to be extremely cautious. And I know JT's 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.200 gonna do everything he possibly can to come back. 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.600 He's young enough to come back. Look at KD. 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.480 KD looked just as good, if not better, after the 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:35.560 Achilles injury. 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.040 Than he did before. KD didn't miss a beat. Ay, 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:39.879 KD got that little damn frame though. 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.120 Yeah, you know that that frame he' got make a 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.399 huge difference. Well yeah, he I mean, I don't think 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.759 j T. JT just got wide showder. J T ain't 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.560 no size. I mean when you look at it, when 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.040 you look at the little cavs, he gotta be. He 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:52.600 gonna be all right. He coulda be all right, Joe, 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.400 he will be. He gonna be all right. But like 0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.200 I said, take air on the side of caution. Yeah, 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.359 you got a very problem. You got another. You got 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.920 another ten years ahead of you. J T theer on 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.759 the side of caution. I know the the athlete and 0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.279 you the champion in you gonna want to get back. 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.359 But hey, don't even don't even chance it, bro, don't 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:16.000 even chance it. 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.160 Steen Kerr was asked about the Warriors offensive system and said, 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.839 this is our solar system. Steph Curry is the sun. 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.680 Stephan is one of the all time great players, playing 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:26.480 at the peak. 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.920 Of his powers close to it. 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.200 How many more years Steph is what thirty seven, thirty six, 0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:33.520 thirty seven, how many more? 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.080 How many more of these years do you believe we 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.160 have with Steph. Joe. 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:43.280 I think step I think Steph could play into his forties. 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.399 Now yeh, what type of basketball are we talking about? 0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.200 I think I don't want to see him as the 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.680 focal point. Maybe go team up with some guys that 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.000 can take some pressure off of him. 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.759 But if if he's not the the main guy to 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.000 where you have to focus on. 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.080 Oh yeah, I think he can play well until forto 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:01.960 because I. 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.239 Mean he a shoot a shoot shoot right. Yeah. 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.680 I think the problem gonna be is having to guard 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.360 these little dudes that's coming into the NBA or that's 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:10.040 ready here. 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.440 You know, as you age it get a little, it 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.560 gets tougher and tough keep up. And you heard G. G. 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:23.080 Jackson say on the Scout Report, Yeah, don't let him fly, 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:24.080 don't let it get away. 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:25.360 I I mean who would you? 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.080 Who would you get right where where Stepp doesn't have 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.600 to touch the bomb? Obviously, Dramond sometimes you know. 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:38.360 The points some time. But how long could Steph keep up. 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.640 With the running over and over and over and over 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.440 and over the way he does. 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.440 I mean, he's to be able to being at his 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.439 game is not just he doesn't bang as much. 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.160 You know, well, he's not playing. He's not playing above 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.120 the rim, he's not playing about does he doesn't. 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.160 It doesn't require him putting his body on somebody, playing 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.320 with his back to the back so you can bang 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.960 on him or he's banging on you. That's not what 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:04.400 he does. 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.280 He might be able to play may past forty. 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.120 Then If that's the. 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.680 Case, oh yeah, I can see I can see him 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.080 playing in another for four years, four five years. Yeah, 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:13.799 I would not be surprised if he played into it 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.600 until his forties, not just forty. He's thirty eight, he'll 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.160 be what will he be? He's thirty seven? What will 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.399 he be? Thirty eight? Probably this year? 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:23.080 Yeah? 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.719 Yeah, you think he'll finish off with and uh oh 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:31.000 he just turned thirty seven. In mark your career in 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.520 Golden State. You think he'll go somewhere else or finish 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:34.479 his career in Golden State? 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.400 I think, I think. I think he's gonna be a 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.600 I think he's gonna be a Kobe. I think he's 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.719 gonna put that way, you know, if a Dirk, you know, 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.799 Dirk put all twenty there, Kobe spent all twenty there. 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:52.840 I don't know, I don't know. Okay, it all depends 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:54.319 it all depends on how much. 0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.000 It's not like Golden State is not going to try 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.759 to surround him with talent, because we know that they've 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.480 gone and got Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant, we see them 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:09.560 go out and get Jimmy Butler, so Groover and Lakeham. 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:11.040 If they don't have a problem. 0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.160 They've been in the luxury attack, they've been in the repeater, 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.360 and so they'll do whatever it takes in order to 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.120 win a championship. 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.839 The question is if and win. 0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.800 Steph will ever feel that he doesn't have a legitimate 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.799 chance of winning a championship in Golden State, then will 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.799 he be willing to say, you know what, I need 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.560 to move on or does he just walk away? 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:30.320 Yeah? 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.240 Well, at what point will will Steph feel how Giannis 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:38.320 feels in Milwaukee right now? But if he has owners 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.560 that's willing to do what's necessary to continue to put 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.239 the pieces around him to make sure you have a 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.840 chance at continue each year, then he probably can finish. 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:49.200 Know it's careerd. 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:50.440 In Golden State, they got some. 0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:51.600 Pieces, I mean, think about it. 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:55.719 They got Minga, they got Moody's from Draft Capital. I 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.160 don't know if that you have the same because they 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.760 had to trade some of it to get Jimmy Butler. 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:01.839 I think they maybe gave up our first round pick 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:03.280 in the Wiggans to get Butler. 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.760 But you still got Kamingo, you got Moody. 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.399 Yeah, I think I think, Uh, I think Steph will 0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.239 I think he'll probably stick a round. I think they're 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.680 gonna use some of those young guys they got and 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.719 some good trade baiting go over there and try to 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.239 bring in some more help to help the veteran group, 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.960 because you just signed Jimmy to a two years Yeah, 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:25.759 a two year deal. 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:27.040 Yep, it was. 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.440 It was a nice, healthy one and uh you know 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:35.160 you got him, You got Jimmy dra mind Steph. Yeah, 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.400 if you could add probably another some form of veteran 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.560 help to some degree, Uh yeah. 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.200 I think they can still make another run at it. 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.680 But for the most part, I don't know, man, I 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.040 can see him playing somewhere else. 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.400 How many more peak years you think you got, you 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.000 think you still play at that he can play at 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.120 the level that he's playing at into his forties, or 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.319 do we start to see a little, a little some 0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:58.200 of that dissipate. 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.360 Oh man, it definitely wouldn't be the shot that dissipates. 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.880 Well, well, as you get older, winning the first thing 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.560 to go with your legs. 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:15.320 Yeah, that's real hot. Will he be able to continue 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:16.640 to run at that pace? 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:23.920 Create the separation right, because it's still gonna screen hell 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.719 at you and. 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:29.360 He been doing all He's been doing a lot of 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.279 running for these past few years. Man, so it's gonna 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.640 catch up with you at some point. Look that that 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:39.400 hamshring ay. It let him know, you know, all the 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.480 time it's undefeated. But I think he definitely still has, 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.480 you know, at least at least three to four more 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.680 years left with good basketball in him. 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.120 I just don't want to see all the pressure on him, 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.279 you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you need some help. 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.800 He maybe he ain't the leading scorer on the team, 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.480 but he probably can be, you know, obviously one of 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:58.680 your most important pieces. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.400 But I guess it's only time to tell Joe, what 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:04.879 do you have Steph rank all time? 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:10.000 Top five, top ten as far as guards or overall? 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:18.759 Well, that's tough. I'll probably for sure put him top ten. 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.120 I can see that guy. You got the top five 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.480 or top ten. Now I've got him in the top five. 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:30.640 I think I got him in the top ten, Bron Jordans, 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:37.440 Kareem Cold Magic will for me, and then that's my 0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:38.520 top five. 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:40.040 Ten. 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:50.960 Oh, Kobe, did you say Duncan Duncan. 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.080 I might put Duncan at six, Kobe at seven, but 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.200 either way, just before this we're talking about top ten, 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:11.440 Kobe Duncan is definitely in the top ten for me. Yeah, 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:18.600 step I go Steph, Yeah, Steph bird shot. 0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.320 Okay, I can see that because Steph, he has changed 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:22.719 the game. 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:24.640 Yeah, yess iconic. 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.080 You know he got these young dudes shooting from half 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:29.520 court one step cross half. 0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.759 Now, he wasn't doing that. They wasn't doing that. 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.360 And when I came out, when I came out of 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.200 school in two thousands, you know, it's been it's been 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.520 a thing, has been a lot different. So I definitely 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.560 give him that. Man, he changed the game the way 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.200 we play the game. Obviously playing with the Warriors, playing 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.279 that that small ball he has, you know, put his 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:48.840 mark on the game for sure. 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.760 Yeah. 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.279 I mean, I mean theoretically you could put I mean, 0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.439 you could make a case that Duncan is the top five. 0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:58.160 Yeah. 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.480 No, I think I think to Reemond Duncan are the 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:06.279 most underappreciated players great players because and I think it's 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.520 because they're big, because you know, first of all, Kareem 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:10.480 was surly. 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.520 And he did he changed his name when it was 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:15.400 very unpopular. 0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.759 You have to realize what was going on in the 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:21.520 sixties and the seventies. Yeah, so he wasn't the most 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.560 popular player. Tim Duncan didn't say anything. Can you remember anything, 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.279 Can you remember anything in his nineteen year career that 0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:29.480 he said that you could like? 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.800 Man, y'all remember when Tim said this, you can't listen. 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.359 I had the pleasure to play against two of those 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.959 Spurs teams and O three we had Stephan Mars playing 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.359 with the Phoenix Sons. We had Stephan Marlberry's the one 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.840 he's playing the point guards, me, Steph Penny, Sean Marion 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.440 and Mark Stoudaman. 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:48.960 Was just a rookie. 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:54.560 Yeah, he was just when we was an a seed OCHO. 0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.640 We played against the Spurs who was the one seed 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.520 and we won game one. After that, it was a 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.880 gentleman's but Tim Duncan was so special, bro Like he 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:06.520 was special man. Uh, nothing exciting about his game. He 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:07.839 just got it done every night. 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:08.839 You got that shit. 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:14.560 Twenty fifteen thirty two seventeen. But you like, he ain't 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.959 gonna wile you. You know, he just gonna go coop done. 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.000 Miss the fundamental yep, I said that that shot your 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:24.920 ass to death, right, And that's and that's why I think, uh, 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.480 you know, people kind of underestimate, you know, his career 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:29.600 and how its went. 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.040 Yeah, and Kareem, he what did Kareem do? He threw 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:33.680 the sky hook? 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:45.640 Yeah, it was so he had the most dominant shot. 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.480 Nobody else has been able to perspect it. But it's boring. 0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.479 You know, nobody even try to throw the sky hook 0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:52.960 unless they run, unless the shot clock run it down, 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:54.200 and they just try to heave it up. 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.279 Hey, that's a tough shot, man. 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.600 You got to put you got to be in the 0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.719 gym working on that to be throwing that sky hook? 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.839 Magic because you two yo, bet magine did the baby 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.800 skuy geinst the Celtics. 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:08.600 And that's the thing I think. 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.680 I think those are two of the most underraty because 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.480 you look at Kareem he has six MVPs six, led 0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.719 the league in scoring, led the league rebounding, led the 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:20.000 league in block shots. He's a fifteen time All NBA selection, 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.719 eleven time All defensive selection, a nineteen time All Star, 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.280 he was the all time leading scorer in NBA history. 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.600 He's the third leading rebound in NBA history. 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:34.719 People don't talk about Kareem Big Duncan five championships could 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:38.239 have easily had six if Ray Allen didn't hit the 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:43.200 most unbelievable shot in a pressure rized moment in NBA history. Man, 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.040 he's a defensive player. Didn't Timmy to win the Defensive 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.600 Player the Year? I know, either three time Finals MVP 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.040 of a two time MVP. I don't know if he 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:55.040 wasn't a defensive Player the Year. But he's an All 0:48:55.080 --> 0:49:02.560 defensive player, bad boy, Fifteen time All Defensive Player, fifteen 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:07.800 times All the NBA, fifteen time All Star. And people 0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.360 look at him like he like he failed a cheating 0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:15.520 all and nobody. I mean, has anybody ever won I mean, 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:17.680 hadn't he won like a thousand games? He won like 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.680 a thousand games? Yeah, I don't think he. 0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:24.080 I don't think he ever won less than fifty. Yeah. 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.279 Pop had the well or engine over there. 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.520 Pop had it going for for years. 0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:33.200 Hey, okay, y'all remember you know, back when they got Duncan. 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:35.759 I think David Robinson was still there. 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:37.759 Yeah, but I think he had got hurt the year 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.800 before something they had that they had their sub far season. 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.160 Yeah, but they were they were a great team. 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.560 But I think they had a major injury and that's 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.160 how they got the number one pick and it happened 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:50.560 to be Tim Duncan and it just took him, It 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:51.560 took him over the top. 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.279 Yeah, Tim Duncan, he won more games than anybody in 0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.480 the NBA history, Right, He's won a thousand and one 0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:04.919 game other than one. So if a god played twenty years, 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:08.200 he would need to win fifty games regular season. 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.520 That's just regular seasons. You need to play twenty years 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:11.920 and win fifty games every. 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:15.320 Year to get to a thousand postseason as well. 0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.919 Oh no he didn't. I ain't count his postseason wins. 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.160 He got five championship, three m VPS, three finals MVPs, 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:27.360 two regular season MVPs. Yeah, a lot of these records 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.640 ain't gonna never be broken, man, Like this, all them records. 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.920 Lebron satting every time he scores a record. Nobody catching that. 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:40.000 Nobody Still you don't think nobody catch Lebron, especially now 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:43.120 that the game has changed it's more free flow. 0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:44.480 I don't know if they're gonna be able to play 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.959 long enough. O yo, And you can see you gotta 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.759 think O yo. You said if he stopped. Now he's 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:55.919 still playing. He's still he's still added that like Tom 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.200 when Tom broke the record, and like, man, I don't 0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:59.600 know if anybody gonna break this record. 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:05.120 And then he plays another three years. Hey, I can really, I. 0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:08.040 Can really see Lebron player at least at bare minimum 0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:08.960 two more years. 0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:09.359 Hey. 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.400 Look, it ain't even just the longevity, it's just how impressive. 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.800 He's doing it. He's still scoring twenty four and a 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:19.640 half points a game at forty oh cho like that. Man, listen, 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:20.640 that's crazy. 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:22.839 Yeah, I think you know, Luca makes it a little 0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:23.879 bit more easy because now. 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:29.800 He doesn't all as much. Yeah, m that's that's crazy. 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.320 Well, if they if they get if they get another 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:38.640 special piece, the Lakers, the Lakers leader Big, they're gonna 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:39.280 be nice. 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:44.000 Because because the Timberwolves ain't going nowhere Bigger Nah No, Okay, 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:45.360 so he's not going anywhere either. 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:47.360 Houston's up and coming. 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.080 They got the pieces to make a move to go 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:54.120 get somebody impressive, right, the Clippers, I don't know if. 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:55.279 They have that. I don't know if they have the 0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:57.839 draft capital huh. 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.440 I mean really the only player that's I mean, you 0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:03.040 you want to do everything you can to keep Harden 0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:04.080 and Kawhi. 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:06.480 And the big zoobots. 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:08.960 So I don't know if they have the pieces to 0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:13.719 go get somebody else to aid them. Yeah, But a 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:18.160 lot of these records like they I mean Lebron theoretically 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.239 how many points he got, like forty two thousand, forty 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:24.000 one thousand. I mean theoretically he could retire with forty 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:30.360 three thousand points. He got forty two thousand, so theoretically 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:32.799 he could have forty. If he plays two more years, 0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:39.759 he'll have forty four thousand. Man, forty four thousand points. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:46.640 That's crazy, man, God, never gonna be Ain't nobody catching that? 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.239 Bro? They not catching it? 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:52.040 I mean, And what he's a he could easily be 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:55.000 first team All NBA. So that'll be a fourteen times 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.080 first team All NBA selection. He's gonna be here. He's 0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.160 gonna make one of the teams one through three. So 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.400 now he'll be a twenty one time All NBA selection. 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:09.560 He's a twenty one time All Star. What five times 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.960 All NBA? Four time will be what five or six 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.719 time All NBA, four or five first Team All NBA Selections, 0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:21.400 four MVPs four Finals, MVPs three, All Star Game, MVPSY. 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:24.120 That's the funny thing, uh and Joe, when you think 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:28.120 about everything Lebron is accomplished, or the pressures that won 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:32.360 him when he came out of high school, the consistency 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.960 and everything he was able to overcome and being consistent 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:40.279 year and a year out and all the accolades, his 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:44.799 resume and his totality, and there are still people that 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.560 have things negative to say about him when it comes 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.960 to the game of basketball, like that's like they have 0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.240 at this point, you just have to make up something, 0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:55.560 or like he's done it all. 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:56.440 What else can he do? 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.120 Comes with him? Man comes in territory. 0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:04.160 What the hell else can you do? That's nothing, That's 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:05.480 that's crazy. 0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.920 Yeah, These seventy six ers are expected to listen to 0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:13.200 offers for the number three overall draft pick. Per the Athletic, 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.560 it's expected that the Sixers will listen to offers for 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.600 the number three, but it's unclear whom. 0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.160 The team would take if it stays Rutgers. 0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.000 Bailey has been seen as the biggest upside swing and 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.360 he feels a theoretical position of need for the Philly 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.719 as a big wing That means that possibly, I mean, 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.360 are you gonna move We'll talk about that in a minute. 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.160 But he also is viewed as the more of a 0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.719 project scouts an executive than the Sixers front office that. 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.640 Likely need to win next year to keep their jobs. 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.680 I've also gotten a wider sense of the appreciation of 0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:49.160 the front offices for the edge Combe than Bailey. 0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:51.160 Are the Sixers? 0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:55.479 Question is are the Sixers a pickaway or trade away 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.720 from being a contender? You got Joel Embiid, you got PG, 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:03.400 you got Tyree's mack. See, he's mainly the piece that 0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.600 puts them over the hunt. Let me tell you they 0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:10.319 need to swing that pick into a a proven player man, 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:11.560 I like Bailey. 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:14.000 They they be crazy out to draft Bailey with that 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.840 third pick. Let me tell you all these kids are projects. 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:20.920 What they mean, uh, Cooper Flag is a project? Like 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:22.280 they ain't no giving. 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.280 None of these dudes gonna come into this league and 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:29.879 in the first year you're banking on them to play 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:33.960 significant minutes and and and turn you into a household franchise. 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:35.680 No, it's it's gonna it's gonna take time. 0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:39.520 Even if Okay, Dallas draft Cooper Flag and they keep 0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.160 him with a D and that's gonna be a project 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:45.440 as well, right, Like they all gonna be projects, man. 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:46.120 But they'll win that. 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:48.960 I believe they'll win more because they got more solid 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:50.600 quality players to start with. 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:51.279 A lot of. 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.399 Times when the guy goes number what, overall he's going 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.560 to a team they ain't really got nothing to work with. 0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.160 I mean like like, man, he went to the he 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.000 went to Uh, he went to Meddle Soda. Damn they 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.960 had cat Cat wasn't one on wrong draft pick right right, 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:07.880 and cat Cat. 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.799 Had to suffer through all them years and who Okay, 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:12.000 we get a number one pick again. 0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:14.359 Then we got Man. Now we got us something. Yeah. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.160 Yeah, it's kind of how it goes, you know what 0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.400 I mean. Uh, But I like a Baile, I like 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.279 it's upside. Yes, yes, he will be a project, but I. 0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:24.680 Think in two to three years he will for sure, 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.880 you know, be able to help Philly, you know, definitely 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:28.360 do something. 0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.399 So that means I don't think they don't have nothing 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.279 in the draft, right you think about it, a team 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.160 even willing or even thinking about listening to office for 0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:38.200 that third pick. So there's nobody in this draft coming 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.520 out this year that is similar to how and Man 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:41.640 was when he was at Georgia. 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:47.800 Nothing mm hmm. And and and. 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:55.960 That, like or Lebron or Wimby or Zion, you like, 0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:00.799 can't miss right, can't miss, don't only thing. And I 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:02.640 said this before, I said, the only thing that concerned 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:05.719 me about Zion is his way, because he's a big 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:09.239 young man, big young man, turn of the big old man, 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.000 big old man can't play sports. 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.760 He's really that simple, O, Joe. I think they might 0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:20.160 move it, but look, I never got that. 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.160 I never got the sense, Joe, you can correct me 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:23.880 from our own living is resting here. 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:24.360 What you think. 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.800 I never really felt that Zion was happy about going. 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.320 I think zaiyall would have preferred to be number three 0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:31.640 overall and go to New York. 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.200 To be number one overall and go to New Orleans. 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:38.240 Yeah, I definitely agree. I think his run in New 0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:40.640 Orleans is over. But I never I never felt his 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:44.200 heart was there, you know, and playing, because the only 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:45.960 way you can show that you cares if you get 0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.640 your butt out there on the court. Yeah, you know, 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.240 get a fan something to see and for the most part, 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:52.240 it's been non existent. 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:56.320 Now when he do play, oh, he's unbelievable. He is amazing. 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.640 So uh yeah, I'm sure I'm sure he won't that 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:01.880 New York Market. I'm sure he wanted to go there. 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:06.760 He would have. Oh my god, can you hey you 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.520 you you're right, You're right, Joe. 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:13.200 And you know, it's like everybody's gonna sign that Rookie 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:14.040 Max expansion. 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:15.520 You be foolish not to. 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:18.600 It's one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty million dollars 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:20.760 and you're coming out and going into your third you know, 0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:22.720 coming out of your third year, you be foolish not 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:25.760 to sign it. But he was like, man, first chance 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.480 I could get. You know, he liked one of them guys. 0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.680 Guys like man, he's a really hard worker when he 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:33.360 shows up now he works hard. We just can't get 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.080 him to come out all the time. You know, you 0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:38.440 you've heard boss and say that about workers. Boy, he 0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:41.400 actually you get him here now, he gonna work for you. 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:45.280 He's just getting him here. With Zion's on the court, 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:51.120 nobody can question Zion's ability. It's just that more times 0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:53.520 than not, O Joe, he's probably missed more games than 0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:57.680 he's playing game, and it's hard. The fans get frustrated, 0:58:57.720 --> 0:58:59.120 front office get frustrated. 0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:02.080 You know. Now all of a sudden, people are questioning, 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.080 how serious are you taking it? You see, you're not 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.960 controlling your wage, You're not disciplined like you. 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:06.400 Need to be. 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:08.480 It's just it's it's a tough sale. 0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:11.840 I think it's gonna be a lot of moving pieces 0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.120 this summer in the NBA, meaning like I do to 0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:16.439 some big guns, I think I do too. 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:20.240 I'm gonna get moved around this summer. I love what 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:21.120 the game is to. 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.200 You know, these teams competing in the playoffs, we've been 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.080 able to see some pretty good basketball. I know this 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.880 the Celsius game tonight wasn't great, but for the most part, 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:34.000 you know, everything's been competitive. Uh, it's been fun to watch. 0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.440 And then ultimately that's what you want, you know. 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.400 Yeah, you know, they just got this this new deal. 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.680 They going to Amazon NBC. So you're in the first 0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:47.040 year this collective bargain new deal, what seventy seven billion? 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:51.760 So I think you'll have some pieces too. I think 0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.200 they're gonna be I think there's gonna be a lot 0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.080 of movement this offseason. A lot of movement. Yeah, I 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.760 definitely do. Like I'm talking about some of my favor 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.000 and somebod Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:05.160 surprised if Philly move Paul George or try to. 1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:09.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Philly moved in Bid. I 1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:09.640 wouldn't either. 1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:13.600 Yeah, what I'm saying maybe MB to the Lakers you're 1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:15.120 talking about, you say we need they need to be 1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:16.600 huh what you think? 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:17.880 Oh? 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:21.240 Yeah, But the thing. 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.800 Is that what you want, you want Ruey and Austin 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:26.560 Reeves because you're not getting Lebron. Lebron has no trade 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.880 and you're not getting Luca. So what do you want Oustar, 1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:30.600 Reeves and RUI. 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:35.439 That's yeah, Yeah, they're gonna have to take They're gonna 1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:41.280 have to take something. But it definitely won't be Lebron Luca. Yeah, 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:42.880 it won't be neither one of them because you want 1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:45.040 to pay them with them right then? 1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:50.280 Ooh and that's yeah, that's yeah. But I think there's 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:52.520 gonna be a lot of moving pieces. Would I be 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:57.560 surprised if the Pelicans moves on on? No, I think 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:59.200 there's a sixty seventy percent chance to. 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:01.960 Do yeah, I agree. 1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:04.920 I think soon as they probably working on it right now, 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:08.040 soon as the trade, soon as the trade open up. 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:17.240 And here's the thing, I'm not so sure either one 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:20.680 to be disappointed. I don't think Zion to be disappointed 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:22.640 if he traded, and I don't think the Pelicans front 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:23.480 office can be traded. 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:25.640 Wait a minute, now, he might be disappointed depending on 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:26.240 where he goes. 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:29.720 He ain't he even be disappointed. I don't think he. 1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:32.400 I don't think he think looks at anything it's worse 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:35.720 than where he currently is. Not just me talking, I 1:01:35.720 --> 1:01:37.800 don't know. I know who he is, but I'm not 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:39.919 saying I'm not talking to it. But I don't think. 1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:40.320 I don't. 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:43.200 I don't think he views any place that he could 1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:46.720 potentially go in the NBA is worse than where he's 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:48.000 currently at and. 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:52.680 Where New Orleans is beautiful, bro, But New Orleans is that, Yeah, it. 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:54.480 Is if you want to go sight see, if you 1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:57.320 want to go eat. 1:01:57.400 --> 1:02:00.560 Even from a basketball standpoint, I mean I view Zion 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:04.240 is one of those players generational talents that can change 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:06.600 the game. He can change the franchise. He just hadn't 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:10.200 been able to stay on the court. Okay, So how 1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:11.400 can he change it off the court? 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:13.640 Is he a martyr? 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:16.880 He's simple here he'll heal the activist. I mean, so, 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:17.880 how you gonna change it? 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.760 Sure he ain't gonna change it nowhere else? Then what's 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:22.280 the difference? 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:27.320 Hey, who knows? I mean sometimes you go to a 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:31.280 change city red. Oh show you you heal up like 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:35.240 Luke Man heal up? And then guess what you ain't 1:02:35.240 --> 1:02:37.080 making that bit? You ain't need no ben a, you 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.160 need no a two faith, no bude and no jumper. 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:45.160 Liar you? I mean, o yo, if you got it 1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:45.920 first of all? 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:49.280 Uh, I think New Orleans or Memphis, one of them is, like, 1:02:49.480 --> 1:02:53.560 was voted the fastest city than in the USA, the fattest. Yeah, 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:55.560 so you don't want to be if I if I 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.440 got if I got an eating problem, oh yo, the 1:02:57.520 --> 1:02:59.680 last place I want to be. He'll the place that 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:02.120 have food and I could get it in the top 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:07.000 nor he everywhere got food everywhere ain't got no food 1:03:07.040 --> 1:03:07.760 like New Orleans. 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.280 Stop it ain't no. 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.000 I wonder how they probably got one vegan spot in 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:18.080 New Orleans. Everything else is heavy cream, heavy sauce LRD. 1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:22.959 Hey say, some of the best cooking in the world. 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:25.040 Come from down in New Orleans Many. 1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:27.560 Oh my goodness, and. 1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:29.480 Guess what as soon as you eat it, you want 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:30.560 to go lay down and go to sleep. 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:36.200 Yeah, yeah, I want to. I want to see him. 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:37.920 I want to. I want to see Zion move to. 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:42.440 I ain't gonna lie. I want to see you might 1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:42.760 need to. 1:03:42.800 --> 1:03:44.520 We might need to get him down there in Miami 1:03:44.600 --> 1:03:46.560 with pat Riley. Oh jo let him, let him put 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:49.720 their work on him. Oh okay, okay, I'll make a call. 1:03:50.120 --> 1:03:51.920 There might be one that might be one person I 1:03:52.040 --> 1:03:53.600 might be able to get this something y'all might be 1:03:53.600 --> 1:03:54.040 able to get in. 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:56.640 Y'all might have answer that on yo, I mean paying 1:03:56.680 --> 1:04:01.400 with bam and hey, he wrote wrote, I like that. 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:04.200 That'd be a nice front line. I like him and Bail. 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:07.880 I like it, But I'm honestly I like I like 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:08.760 Joannis and John. 1:04:09.800 --> 1:04:15.320 I bet you I bet you do like Yanni. Hey, hey, 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:17.280 I like I like to be honest with you like 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:24.120 I like ya job. I bet you do. Like they 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.000 ain't getting no yohnis in job bro. I'm sorry to 1:04:26.000 --> 1:04:29.440 tell you all right, listen, I sat in the rooms. 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:31.840 I hadn't been in the room, so. 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:35.680 I okayoe I got another hypothetical for y'all. I got 1:04:35.720 --> 1:04:40.360 one more hypothetical. Okay, uh, let's say we get a 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:46.200 man and it's it's a g shay. Next round, Let's say, okay, 1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:47.800 see gone cloth the boys out? 1:04:47.960 --> 1:04:50.200 Yeah, yeah, I can see that t wolves and the 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:54.320 thunder the next round. Who y'all got? Oh all right, 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:54.880 damn it? 1:04:58.640 --> 1:05:00.120 Hey, honestly, I'm going. 1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:06.360 Who you going with? And yeah, I'm going to just. 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:13.000 Listen if ant man polish you know what off and 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:18.040 get that goddamn trophy in that ring. Man, I don't 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:19.440 care if you don't want to be the face of 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:20.760 the league, boy, you better. 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:21.040 You going on? 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:23.160 You to be the NBA logo nigga. 1:05:23.600 --> 1:05:25.720 Hey, look, and that's the thing that scares me an 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:28.360 Ocho because he don't want none of that. He don't 1:05:28.400 --> 1:05:31.760 want to Sometime when you chosen, you don't have a 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:35.120 choice because the things that's going to be presented, you know, 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:36.400 as far as y'all making it. 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:39.680 If y'all can make it to the UH. 1:05:39.160 --> 1:05:41.920 Finals and you do win a championship, man, listen, you 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:43.440 can tell them posts all you want to. 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:48.160 You don't want to be no face because he understands 1:05:48.200 --> 1:05:50.320 what comes along with the face. You don't. 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:52.439 He don't want to give up what he has going 1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:56.000 on now in the face you can't. 1:05:57.480 --> 1:06:01.680 That he does, hey man, like to be in cognito, Yeah, 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:03.120 because they're gonna scrutinize you. 1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:06.720 You know, they gonna fish bowl and everything you do, 1:06:06.760 --> 1:06:07.560 they gonna attack you. 1:06:07.640 --> 1:06:08.360 That's part of it. 1:06:08.440 --> 1:06:10.920 I think I read a quote today George says he 1:06:10.960 --> 1:06:13.240 doesn't know if he could have played in the social 1:06:13.280 --> 1:06:15.760 media age, the Twitter and all that. 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:17.720 Other stuff, because they think about it. 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:20.160 Think about think about all of the stuff he got 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:22.320 into and we didn't even have that back then, you 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:24.080 know what I mean, They was catching him doing all 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:24.800 these things. 1:06:25.080 --> 1:06:28.680 Man, nowadays it's it's and people. 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:31.800 People were happy to keep a secret that they saw 1:06:31.840 --> 1:06:35.040 George out in such and such place. Now they they 1:06:35.080 --> 1:06:36.920 ain't happy. They ain't tried to keep no secret. They 1:06:36.960 --> 1:06:37.560 tried to put you. 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:40.560 On blast phones out, bones out, flash out. 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:41.800 Yeah. 1:06:41.880 --> 1:06:44.400 Yeah, man, guess when I saw our laughs at at 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:45.480 like three o'clock in the morning. 1:06:47.480 --> 1:06:50.920 Man, you ain't gonna believe man, you ain't gonna believe this. 1:06:51.400 --> 1:06:57.120 Who do you think they can tell me this with you? 1:06:58.480 --> 1:07:02.080 But I hate people do that, hey man, You he 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:04.320 you ain't gonna guess who I saw? Who? 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:09.360 Man, bro, I ain't ask you where you were. You 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:11.640 told me, I'm not gonna guess who you saw? So 1:07:11.720 --> 1:07:13.440 now who did you see? 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:19.600 Man? Fact, I don't even want to know no more. 1:07:19.600 --> 1:07:24.000 Man, don't worry about it, thank you. 1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:28.920 Yeah, and that's the thing. Uh and so now people 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:32.760 could keep a secret back then. Yeah, ain't nobody keeping 1:07:32.760 --> 1:07:35.800 no secret now, no want to be the first one 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:36.160 to tell. 1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:38.000 They want to be the folk, the folk one one. 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:42.040 They want to give you, damn folk first. There you go, 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:43.640 there you. 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:48.080 Go, Hey, how was such and such? Who is that? Yeah? Yeah, 1:07:48.440 --> 1:07:50.800 now you trending? You going viral? And you don't even 1:07:50.800 --> 1:07:51.520 know nothing about it. 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:56.520 All the all the time, the guys used to come 1:07:56.560 --> 1:07:59.480 into the city, or they go to nikkis, or they 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:02.960 go to x Y, and you never knew about it. Man, 1:08:03.000 --> 1:08:04.480 it's hard to get somebody to go to the place 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:06.560 of note somebody. Man, I saw such and such a 1:08:07.320 --> 1:08:09.320 bro That man didn't ask you to tell that, right, 1:08:10.440 --> 1:08:11.640 he didn't even want that. As a matter of fact, 1:08:11.640 --> 1:08:14.520 I ain't want nobody to know. He told you. 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:16.160 That's why he didn't take no picture with you, because 1:08:16.200 --> 1:08:19.080 he didn't want you to bost it. Mm hmm. 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:21.679 The volume