WEBVTT - Drive Time: Dave Hack and Nat Moore Honored 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:08.440 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.520 What is up, Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.120 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's episode, 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.560 part two of a two parter, a special bonus edition 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.079 here of the Draft Time Podcast, we have two esteemed 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.600 guests on the show. Today. Nat Moore joins me to 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.479 talk about the street naming after him by Miami Edson 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.640 High School earlier this year, and also Dave Hack, along 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.279 with Jason Jenkins, will be honored at this year's Pro 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.320 Football Hall of Fame ceremony as part of the Awards 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.199 of Excellence for his work for almost forty years as 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.360 the director of Dolphins Video from the Baptist Health Studios 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.120 inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:50.800 Time Podcast. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.760 Hegie Daffy, and. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.560 We are joined today by someone that I have been 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.680 told around the building is best described in one word, legendary, 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.720 Dave Hack. Dave's career began with the Dolphins in nineteen 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.680 seventy four and went all the way to the Division 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.160 Championship season in two thousand and eight. He was the 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.960 director of the football Video Department for twenty four years, 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.560 and because of that service, he has been chosen for 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.720 the Pro Football Hall of Fame Awards of Excellence. Dave, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.760 it is an honor to meet you and welcome into 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:20.120 the show. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.039 Thank you very much, Travis, and thank you for having me. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.360 And I think one of the things that folks that 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.959 you part of your person that resonates with folks so much, Dave, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.760 is kind of your personable side. And the first thing 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.679 you mentioned here on the show before we started recording 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.520 was you wanted to acknowledge a couple of friends of 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.560 yours that are no longer with us and people that 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.600 were close to you and the Dolphins organization. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.840 That's right, and I'd like to have my thoughts and 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.360 prayers go out to the Vigorito family and the Crowder 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.000 family on their recent losses. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.640 It's very kind of you, and that's definitely being felt 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.800 here in Dolphins Nation. And you know this, this family 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.800 and this this bloodline goes back a long time and 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:58.680 you're a big part of that. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:01:58.960 Dave. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.520 MI w wanted to have you on you so thoughts 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.040 and prayers as he mentioned there, to those two families. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.440 And you know, Dave, I have so much I want 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.960 to get into in such a short amount of time 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.400 here let's start with this. Let's go let's go explosive 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.880 right off the top, like the twenty, Like the modern 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.320 Dolphins offense that throws the ball down the Phildo Rican 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.840 wattle all the time. Let's go explosive. So you worked 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.560 with some of the game's biggest personalities and figures in 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:25.280 Don Shula and Jimmy Johnson and Nick Saban. I'm certain 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.119 you've got twenty stories from each coach you could rattle off, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.200 but perhaps there's one that stands out above the rest, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.560 and it can be a moment of praise, maybe someone 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.920 giving you an earful when I ask you that question, 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.920 what's the story that really jumps to the top of 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.280 your mind? 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:38.560 Dave. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.079 I worked with coach Don Shula for twenty one years, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:46.840 and he was a no bs kind of guy. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.160 It was football playing and simple. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.840 And one of our biggest problems at the early stage 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.799 is when we were exchanging films, was films coming from 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.519 the West Coast because of the travel and the time 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.600 and all that, and I would always have to go 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.520 in there and wait for like a raider game to 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.480 come in from the West Coast. I'd go in there 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.520 and he'd want to update from the airlines, and he'd go, Dave, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.080 what do you got from me an excuse or explanation? 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.880 And I go, well, coach, I got both, which one 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.320 you wanned? 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.000 And was he receptive to the answers to those? 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:23.560 Oh? 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.960 Yeah, he knew that I didn't control the airlines and 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.280 I was doing the best they could. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:29.040 That's so good. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:29.280 Yeah. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.520 It's a position that really is vital to an organization, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.720 right because everything they do pretty much from Sunday after 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.160 the game to the next Sunday before the game, I mean, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.320 all the study and preparation, they got to have that tape. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.720 So you are a vital part of the organization. And 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.960 I mean it sounds like that's kind of why you're 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.880 being honored here, but I'm curious to the feedback you 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.880 got from all those coaches and just how valuable that 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:54.600 role was for you. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.520 Well, i'll tell you what. The role changed so much 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.240 over my career. When we started with sixteen millimeter film, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.320 the ability to make what they call now cutups was primitive, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.680 and when we got into videotape, that launched into a 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.840 whole new wave of what I can do with these images. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.599 And then we started making it into a digital format 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.400 where you can attach a database to it. So all 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:24.479 of these coaches went from real primitive to anything I want, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.920 And so there was a learning curve for not only us, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.840 but for the coaches to interact with the new technologies. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.200 How many how many man hours do you think that 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.640 saves going from a physical cutup that you had to 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.359 physically make right versus the digital kind of editing of 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.680 it was, It's got to be a huge difference. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.120 Oh, a major difference. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.560 And one of the good things about it is if 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.560 you had a coach that like we had. Joel Collyer 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.520 was with us, and we gave him the ability to 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.120 write to the database, he would make his own cutups 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.839 and so you had, you know, so basically guys cutting 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.880 up sixteen millimeter film to pushing a few buttons on 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.600 his desk in his dreamy land. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:07.800 He had anything he wanted. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.640 That's just amazing. As someone that you know, tries to 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.119 learn as much as I can about football through watching 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.479 tape myself. I mean, I imagine that you picked up 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.560 a thing or two because as you're cutting these up, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.960 you're watching as much film as these coaches are, right. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.599 Oh yes, and I was shooting it, which was even 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.320 a better learning curve for what I was doing when 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.040 I started with the Dolphins. That's what I wanted to do, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:34.640 is to be a cinematographer. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:35.160 You know. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.080 We wore a lot of other hats and our job 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.480 as things went along, but my favorite thing to do 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.039 was on Sunday for three hours, I get to take 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.560 out my earplug from my phone and my radio and 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.480 all that, crawl into the viewfinder on my camera. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:51.320 And shoot a game. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.440 To be a cinematographer and just be stuck in that moment. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.040 I'm kind of jealous of that because my job these 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.640 days entails, you know, tweeting about everything that happens. I 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.919 want to go into the film room of view and 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.200 just watch the game. David sounds very peaceful. Let's go 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.159 back to the very beginning here, because when you began 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.440 back in nineteen seventy four, did you grow up a 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:10.040 Dolphins fan? 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:15.400 Well, I was born in Illinois, but I moved to 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.600 Miami when I was two months old. My parents brought 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.200 us down to South Florida, and I was always a 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.480 big time Dolphin fan, especially seventy two and seventy three season. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:31.839 They weren't too bad, and so I started shooting in 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.960 seventy three for a local TV station and that was 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.040 doing the Don Shula Show, and I'd go in, I'd 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.720 get some film and get a pass to go on 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.119 the sideline and I was giving them some ground level 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.920 action for the Shula Show, and that was a lot 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:48.400 of fun. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.040 I can only imagine. You got to be up close 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.520 and personal to this legendary figure, right, and you're kind 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.839 of young, trying to feel your way into the industry, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.920 were you were you nervous about being around the coach 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.160 and the team like that, a. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.360 Little bit apprehensive, But I knew I had a job 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.520 to do, and the thing I wanted to do most 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.080 was to be a good photographer. And so when the 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.679 opera tunity came with the Miami Dolphins to join their 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.240 video or their film staff back then, I had to 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.240 take it. I was a young man and that's what 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:21.360 I kind of wanted to do. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.480 And then the next year you were there. How did 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.480 that job come to be in nineteen seventy four. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:31.720 Well, I worked in a business that was sales, service 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.680 and rental of professional motion picture equipment. So I was 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.200 a hardware guy from day one, and the folks that 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.760 were doing just got the deal with the Dolphins to 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:47.600 bring their film processing and everything in house. It was 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.720 a ground floor thing for me to take my skills 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.119 and add it to what they were doing. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:53.960 So that was one of the questions I had for 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.160 you later on in my list here, I was talking 0:07:56.160 --> 0:08:00.360 about the repairing of hardware because I was talked to 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.920 our current video director and Mike Nobler, and again, Dave, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.360 the way that they talk about you around here is 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.600 it's I mean, as a guy that was honored by 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.480 Dan Marino and who gave you the phone call to 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.920 let you know you're going into the Hall of Fame. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:14.760 It kind of reminds me of the way folks talk 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.840 about Marino around here, quite honestly. And he was talking 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.840 about how like no one was doing that kind of stuff, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.240 physically repairing the equipment themselves. But that was kind of 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:23.040 your bread and butter. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.720 And when we went from film to video, I was 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.400 already familiar with the equipment. So one thing led to another, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.400 and you know, I built and wired her own studios, 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.280 and when we moved into the new training facility in Davy, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.600 I did all the wiring for all the meeting rooms 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.119 and then the studio and everything myself. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.839 That is no small feat. Have you seen our new 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.640 facilities here in Miami gardens by chance? 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.880 No, I haven't, but I did watch somebody flew a 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.439 drone through there. Yeah, and it was really cool whoever 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.000 did that. But I just recently went to the Jacksonville 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:04.360 Jaguars brand new training facility here in Jacksonville, and they 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.800 said the architectural group that did that training camp did 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.520 the one in Miami too, So I got to see 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.120 maybe a preview of what you actually have there. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.240 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And I asked, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.040 because I'm in a studio right now that has all 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.960 these you know, these cameras that are operated by a 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.600 control room on the other side of the wall, and 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.960 we got the TV studio back there. I just I imagine 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.560 that's kind of like a like a kid in a 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.120 candy store situation for you. But what I want to know, Dave, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.240 maybe almost as much as anything, is what a day 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.560 in the life is like for you in that position. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.840 But with how your career spanned so many different spanned 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.160 different generations, I'm sure that changed. So I'm I'm I 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.520 guess the question is and we'll have that question on 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.280 the other side. Drivetime podcast brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.360 What was a day in the life like early on 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.560 back in those you know, pre eighties, pre digital age, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.160 and then the same question, but advanced into the two 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:00.920 thousands when we were we were kind of, you know, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.240 experiencing this tech boom. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.800 When I started with the Dolphins, it was all sixteen 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.000 minimeter film, and I remember one time we were back 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.320 at Saint Thomas University, We're getting ready for the draft, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.560 and we didn't have the resources then it was just 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.200 film and they were pretty much done watching film, you know, 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.280 it just turned on the TV and watched the draft. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.640 But I remember riding my motorcycle into the training camp, 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.240 making sure everything's all happy, driving all the way down 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.160 to the keys to sit in Roxy's Green totaled in 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.800 for lunch and back and we still hadn't picked. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.839 So what was that like five or six hours? 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.559 Oh yeah, it was a long break. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.760 In the actual it wasn't the show it is today 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.640 in primetime TV and all that. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:47.960 It was a different world. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.960 Yeah, it certainly is. I mean shooting now we have 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.839 they did an announcement of the schedule during the draft 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.520 this year that they announced the announcement of the schedule. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.160 It's like everything with the bells and whistles these days, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.559 and that's cly. A positive thing is that it shows 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.040 the NFL's growth over many, many years. And one of 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.400 the things that you did was become a director after 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.720 eleven seasons. What do you think went into getting that 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.280 elevation into that role and what did that change mean 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:14.720 for you as personally? 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.560 Well, I was a young man starting a family, so 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.080 financially it was very good for sure to take on 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.800 the new role. And I was already familiar with the equipment, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.200 so it wasn't a big change for me. But it 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.520 did require you learning new skills, and so I took 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.360 all my old skills piled them into that, and I 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.360 think I was fairly successful. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.319 At that, I would say so. I think the Pro 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.079 Football Hall of Fame calling certainly would verify that for 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.880 you as well. And we've kind of touched on this 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.240 a little bit day, but I want to just maybe 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.720 go a little bit further into it, because to the layman, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:55.480 the idea of transitioning from the sixteen millimeter to digital 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.920 the evolution of technology. Was it difficult to learn that 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.120 for you or was that kind of an easy transition 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.120 as you know, someone that had been doing it for 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.319 so long, Well. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.120 That was that was an easy transition for me. And 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.640 actually it wasn't from film to digital. It was filmed 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:16.160 to analog tape first, and then the computers got into it. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.600 And then what happened was you we were able to 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.280 take the images from the videotape and put them into 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.920 a computer and then marry that with the database. So 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.120 it was actually three steps to get to our final 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.440 product today and it's all digital pusher button stuff. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.800 So were you the one that had to kind of 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.160 get coach Saban up to speed when he got here 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:39.559 on how the NFL films worked. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:46.360 Actually, Nick had was far enough along where he was 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.000 coaching that they knew the digital side of the world 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.439 and so they were familiar with it. So we didn't 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.200 have to do much early training with his career. They 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.240 already knew what was going on. But with the Dolphins 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.679 and our coaches first started messing with computers and all 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.440 that stuff, we actually had to teach some of them 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:07.800 how to use a mouse. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.199 Doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's a football coach, right. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.600 That was an age where computers were only for nerds, right, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.960 That was the general thought back then, right. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.079 I remember the first computer at our old training camp 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.280 was a word process or used by Shula's secretary, and 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.400 that was it in the building. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.280 Was Sheula pretty computer savvy? 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.320 Actually? I was surprised. Yes he was. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.920 Yeah, all right, he was pretty good at everything. It 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.880 sounds like, yeah, he was. Something else that kind of 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.199 fascinates me, Dave, is the relationship of a coworker of 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.040 yours that was also your brother Bob, for twenty years 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.080 together you worked with him. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.160 Yes, I had that privilege of working with my brother, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.480 and we were always very good at if we had 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:58.080 a situation where we needed to think tank it, we 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.960 were always good at coming up with the right answer. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.680 Like when we went to the digital we had to 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.840 go into the computer room and design our own racks 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.760 and stuff to make our server work in the building 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.560 we were in, and to distribute all that video and 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.400 database information to everyone. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.600 So that was quite a challenge. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.400 Yeah, it sounds like I think that was one of 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.040 the things that I was talking to our again, our 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.960 current director of football video here, Mike Knobler, was talking 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.560 about let's see it was she was the name of it? 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.680 I had it written down here. Oh, Sports Pro that 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.800 that new implemented system of you guys had. I think 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.840 that was that was around around Coach Saban's time, wasn't it. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.760 Yes, Well, we had a small version of that, and 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.800 we with Coach Saban there we were able to secure 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:49.680 funding for a more advanced version of that. So we 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.480 really took off after that. As far as our technology. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.440 Yeah, Mike was saying it was the gold standard in 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.080 terms of your guys, like forty stations for coaches and 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.760 and just kind of creating again the gold standard was 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:01.280 at that time. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.080 Yeah, we had a lot of support from our vendor 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.560 too to implement and give us the latest technology, which 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:10.200 was great. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.160 That's that's really cool. And one of the other things 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.440 he mentioned was a letter that you guys, he said, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.600 either you or your brother or together wrote a letter 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.880 to thirty one organizations about this idea of going something 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.520 to DVC pro, which is a digital version of the tape, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.400 and it was going to be a big expense for 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.720 all the teams with new cam cameras and recorders and 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.000 new decks. But you guys said that wasn't a great 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.160 idea and it worked. Can you take us through how 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:33.600 that all? 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:33.800 What? 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:34.920 How that all played out. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.640 That's the longer story than we have time for. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.520 But there was a move because our beta cam Sony 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:48.600 betacam equipment was aging and they were changing. Sony was 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.280 changing on their business model, and so we wanted to 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.320 make sure the NFL was in the right place for 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.400 the next set phase of what we're doing and members 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.240 sending in a meeting. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.120 And if you ever sit. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.640 In a meeting and you're the only guy holding up 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.680 your hand to vote on something, you need to look 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.320 behind you, because everybody else. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.200 Had their hand down looking at me like you're nuts. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.000 But I did offer a letter to all the owners 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.200 and it was like with Sony versus Panasonic, all we 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.120 ever heard was Panasonic, this is Panasonic, that they never 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.160 really invited Sony to the table. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.880 To speak their mind. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.800 And so I put a with my letter, put a 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.920 hold on the proceedings to go with Panasonic and to 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.400 do more research on what we actually did and what 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.960 we actually needed. And I think I was the only 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:51.640 person to turn around a unanimous vote by the Competition 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:56.240 committee to put a hold on Panasonic and to review Sony, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:01.280 And once Sony got back in the fold again, the 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:06.679 decision was to keep our legacy hardware and modernize it 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.560 and move on from there and not do a radical 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.000 change in format. And the best part about that was, Travis, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.560 was all of your legacy tapes that you had. As 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.920 coaches moved around from team the team, they'd have the 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.480 little box of tapes they take with them when they 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.600 went to the new stuff from Sony. Everything played everywhere. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.639 You didn't have to change it, you don't have to 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.280 convert it. It was the logical thing to do. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:31.520 Well. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.960 Yeah, I mean, that's a lot for someone that doesn't 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.000 understand or that doesn't have a first hand experience in 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.600 that field to really kind of take in. But it 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.879 just speaks to the evolution of where we are and 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.480 how much more streamlined the game is these days. And 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.280 it reminds me of a question I had for you 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:47.879 here about, you know, the advances we've seen in the 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.719 last several years, where obviously tech is taking off at 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.400 a whole different rate these days, but did you think 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.360 we would get to where we are today with all 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.320 these VR headset trainings and cameras on helmets. Did you 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.400 think we'd eventually get to this position with technology is And. 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.880 Don't forget RFID tags in the shoulder pads, right right. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.960 So speaking of shoulder pads, there's two guys I'd like 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.639 to call out, and they're my wonderful friends there are 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.520 still with the Dolphins. It's your equipment guys. Yeah, Joey 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.840 and Charlie are my good buddies. They always will be 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.040 and I want to give a big shout out to them. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.200 Oh, they're the best yests. That's a great, great spot 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.400 to do that. Have you got a chance to watch 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.320 every single touchdown pass and watch every single game of 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.840 the Electric Dan Marino's career, And in his speech he 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.880 acknowledged that you were the only person that saw all 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.760 four hundred and twenty touchdowns. I'm curious what that meant 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.640 to you. And do you have a favorite Dan Marino 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:37.439 touchdown pass? 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:39.200 Yes? 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:39.520 I do. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.639 Dan and I talked about this one time. We played 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:51.600 a game versus Pittsburgh for the AFC Championship and and 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.520 we won that game. But I remember late in the game, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.080 there is one pass I think it was to Mark 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.119 Clayton that put us right down on the goal line, 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:00.800 and you knew in your and you look at the 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.960 clock and knew how we were playing. We're going to 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.280 the Super Bowl, so that was one of my favorite 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:07.240 Dan Marino touchdown. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.040 I got one more Dan Marinos story. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:09.760 For you, please. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.240 There's something that a lot of people didn't see about 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.000 Dan Marino. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.639