Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: What is up, Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's episode,
Speaker 2: part two of a two parter, a special bonus edition
Speaker 2: here of the Draft Time Podcast, we have two esteemed
Speaker 2: guests on the show. Today. Nat Moore joins me to
Speaker 2: talk about the street naming after him by Miami Edson
Speaker 2: High School earlier this year, and also Dave Hack, along
Speaker 2: with Jason Jenkins, will be honored at this year's Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame ceremony as part of the Awards
Speaker 2: of Excellence for his work for almost forty years as
Speaker 2: the director of Dolphins Video from the Baptist Health Studios
Speaker 2: inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft
Speaker 2: Time Podcast.
Speaker 3: Hegie Daffy, and.
Speaker 2: We are joined today by someone that I have been
Speaker 2: told around the building is best described in one word, legendary,
Speaker 2: Dave Hack. Dave's career began with the Dolphins in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four and went all the way to the Division
Speaker 2: Championship season in two thousand and eight. He was the
Speaker 2: director of the football Video Department for twenty four years,
Speaker 2: and because of that service, he has been chosen for
Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame Awards of Excellence. Dave,
Speaker 2: it is an honor to meet you and welcome into
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Travis, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that folks that
Speaker 2: you part of your person that resonates with folks so much, Dave,
Speaker 2: is kind of your personable side. And the first thing
Speaker 2: you mentioned here on the show before we started recording
Speaker 2: was you wanted to acknowledge a couple of friends of
Speaker 2: yours that are no longer with us and people that
Speaker 2: were close to you and the Dolphins organization.
Speaker 5: That's right, and I'd like to have my thoughts and
Speaker 5: prayers go out to the Vigorito family and the Crowder
Speaker 5: family on their recent losses.
Speaker 2: It's very kind of you, and that's definitely being felt
Speaker 2: here in Dolphins Nation. And you know this, this family
Speaker 2: and this this bloodline goes back a long time and
Speaker 2: you're a big part of that.
Speaker 3: Dave.
Speaker 2: MI w wanted to have you on you so thoughts
Speaker 2: and prayers as he mentioned there, to those two families.
Speaker 2: And you know, Dave, I have so much I want
Speaker 2: to get into in such a short amount of time
Speaker 2: here let's start with this. Let's go let's go explosive
Speaker 2: right off the top, like the twenty, Like the modern
Speaker 2: Dolphins offense that throws the ball down the Phildo Rican
Speaker 2: wattle all the time. Let's go explosive. So you worked
Speaker 2: with some of the game's biggest personalities and figures in
Speaker 2: Don Shula and Jimmy Johnson and Nick Saban. I'm certain
Speaker 2: you've got twenty stories from each coach you could rattle off,
Speaker 2: but perhaps there's one that stands out above the rest,
Speaker 2: and it can be a moment of praise, maybe someone
Speaker 2: giving you an earful when I ask you that question,
Speaker 2: what's the story that really jumps to the top of
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 4: Dave.
Speaker 5: I worked with coach Don Shula for twenty one years,
Speaker 5: and he was a no bs kind of guy.
Speaker 4: It was football playing and simple.
Speaker 5: And one of our biggest problems at the early stage
Speaker 5: is when we were exchanging films, was films coming from
Speaker 5: the West Coast because of the travel and the time
Speaker 5: and all that, and I would always have to go
Speaker 5: in there and wait for like a raider game to
Speaker 5: come in from the West Coast. I'd go in there
Speaker 5: and he'd want to update from the airlines, and he'd go, Dave,
Speaker 5: what do you got from me an excuse or explanation?
Speaker 4: And I go, well, coach, I got both, which one
Speaker 4: you wanned?
Speaker 2: And was he receptive to the answers to those?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he knew that I didn't control the airlines and
Speaker 5: I was doing the best they could.
Speaker 2: That's so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a position that really is vital to an organization,
Speaker 2: right because everything they do pretty much from Sunday after
Speaker 2: the game to the next Sunday before the game, I mean,
Speaker 2: all the study and preparation, they got to have that tape.
Speaker 2: So you are a vital part of the organization. And
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like that's kind of why you're
Speaker 2: being honored here, but I'm curious to the feedback you
Speaker 2: got from all those coaches and just how valuable that
Speaker 2: role was for you.
Speaker 5: Well, i'll tell you what. The role changed so much
Speaker 5: over my career. When we started with sixteen millimeter film,
Speaker 5: the ability to make what they call now cutups was primitive,
Speaker 5: and when we got into videotape, that launched into a
Speaker 5: whole new wave of what I can do with these images.
Speaker 5: And then we started making it into a digital format
Speaker 5: where you can attach a database to it. So all
Speaker 5: of these coaches went from real primitive to anything I want,
Speaker 5: And so there was a learning curve for not only us,
Speaker 5: but for the coaches to interact with the new technologies.
Speaker 2: How many how many man hours do you think that
Speaker 2: saves going from a physical cutup that you had to
Speaker 2: physically make right versus the digital kind of editing of
Speaker 2: it was, It's got to be a huge difference.
Speaker 4: Oh, a major difference.
Speaker 5: And one of the good things about it is if
Speaker 5: you had a coach that like we had. Joel Collyer
Speaker 5: was with us, and we gave him the ability to
Speaker 5: write to the database, he would make his own cutups
Speaker 5: and so you had, you know, so basically guys cutting
Speaker 5: up sixteen millimeter film to pushing a few buttons on
Speaker 5: his desk in his dreamy land.
Speaker 4: He had anything he wanted.
Speaker 2: That's just amazing. As someone that you know, tries to
Speaker 2: learn as much as I can about football through watching
Speaker 2: tape myself. I mean, I imagine that you picked up
Speaker 2: a thing or two because as you're cutting these up,
Speaker 2: you're watching as much film as these coaches are, right.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, and I was shooting it, which was even
Speaker 5: a better learning curve for what I was doing when
Speaker 5: I started with the Dolphins. That's what I wanted to do,
Speaker 5: is to be a cinematographer.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: We wore a lot of other hats and our job
Speaker 5: as things went along, but my favorite thing to do
Speaker 5: was on Sunday for three hours, I get to take
Speaker 5: out my earplug from my phone and my radio and
Speaker 5: all that, crawl into the viewfinder on my camera.
Speaker 4: And shoot a game.
Speaker 2: To be a cinematographer and just be stuck in that moment.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of jealous of that because my job these
Speaker 2: days entails, you know, tweeting about everything that happens. I
Speaker 2: want to go into the film room of view and
Speaker 2: just watch the game. David sounds very peaceful. Let's go
Speaker 2: back to the very beginning here, because when you began
Speaker 2: back in nineteen seventy four, did you grow up a
Speaker 2: Dolphins fan?
Speaker 5: Well, I was born in Illinois, but I moved to
Speaker 5: Miami when I was two months old. My parents brought
Speaker 5: us down to South Florida, and I was always a
Speaker 5: big time Dolphin fan, especially seventy two and seventy three season.
Speaker 5: They weren't too bad, and so I started shooting in
Speaker 5: seventy three for a local TV station and that was
Speaker 5: doing the Don Shula Show, and I'd go in, I'd
Speaker 5: get some film and get a pass to go on
Speaker 5: the sideline and I was giving them some ground level
Speaker 5: action for the Shula Show, and that was a lot
Speaker 5: of fun.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine. You got to be up close
Speaker 2: and personal to this legendary figure, right, and you're kind
Speaker 2: of young, trying to feel your way into the industry,
Speaker 2: were you were you nervous about being around the coach
Speaker 2: and the team like that, a.
Speaker 5: Little bit apprehensive, But I knew I had a job
Speaker 5: to do, and the thing I wanted to do most
Speaker 5: was to be a good photographer. And so when the
Speaker 5: opera tunity came with the Miami Dolphins to join their
Speaker 5: video or their film staff back then, I had to
Speaker 5: take it. I was a young man and that's what
Speaker 5: I kind of wanted to do.
Speaker 2: And then the next year you were there. How did
Speaker 2: that job come to be in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 5: Well, I worked in a business that was sales, service
Speaker 5: and rental of professional motion picture equipment. So I was
Speaker 5: a hardware guy from day one, and the folks that
Speaker 5: were doing just got the deal with the Dolphins to
Speaker 5: bring their film processing and everything in house. It was
Speaker 5: a ground floor thing for me to take my skills
Speaker 5: and add it to what they were doing.
Speaker 2: So that was one of the questions I had for
Speaker 2: you later on in my list here, I was talking
Speaker 2: about the repairing of hardware because I was talked to
Speaker 2: our current video director and Mike Nobler, and again, Dave,
Speaker 2: the way that they talk about you around here is
Speaker 2: it's I mean, as a guy that was honored by
Speaker 2: Dan Marino and who gave you the phone call to
Speaker 2: let you know you're going into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of the way folks talk
Speaker 2: about Marino around here, quite honestly. And he was talking
Speaker 2: about how like no one was doing that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: physically repairing the equipment themselves. But that was kind of
Speaker 2: your bread and butter.
Speaker 5: And when we went from film to video, I was
Speaker 5: already familiar with the equipment. So one thing led to another,
Speaker 5: and you know, I built and wired her own studios,
Speaker 5: and when we moved into the new training facility in Davy,
Speaker 5: I did all the wiring for all the meeting rooms
Speaker 5: and then the studio and everything myself.
Speaker 2: That is no small feat. Have you seen our new
Speaker 2: facilities here in Miami gardens by chance?
Speaker 5: No, I haven't, but I did watch somebody flew a
Speaker 5: drone through there. Yeah, and it was really cool whoever
Speaker 5: did that. But I just recently went to the Jacksonville
Speaker 5: Jaguars brand new training facility here in Jacksonville, and they
Speaker 5: said the architectural group that did that training camp did
Speaker 5: the one in Miami too, So I got to see
Speaker 5: maybe a preview of what you actually have there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And I asked,
Speaker 2: because I'm in a studio right now that has all
Speaker 2: these you know, these cameras that are operated by a
Speaker 2: control room on the other side of the wall, and
Speaker 2: we got the TV studio back there. I just I imagine
Speaker 2: that's kind of like a like a kid in a
Speaker 2: candy store situation for you. But what I want to know, Dave,
Speaker 2: maybe almost as much as anything, is what a day
Speaker 2: in the life is like for you in that position.
Speaker 2: But with how your career spanned so many different spanned
Speaker 2: different generations, I'm sure that changed. So I'm I'm I
Speaker 2: guess the question is and we'll have that question on
Speaker 2: the other side. Drivetime podcast brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 2: What was a day in the life like early on
Speaker 2: back in those you know, pre eighties, pre digital age,
Speaker 2: and then the same question, but advanced into the two
Speaker 2: thousands when we were we were kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: experiencing this tech boom.
Speaker 5: When I started with the Dolphins, it was all sixteen
Speaker 5: minimeter film, and I remember one time we were back
Speaker 5: at Saint Thomas University, We're getting ready for the draft,
Speaker 5: and we didn't have the resources then it was just
Speaker 5: film and they were pretty much done watching film, you know,
Speaker 5: it just turned on the TV and watched the draft.
Speaker 5: But I remember riding my motorcycle into the training camp,
Speaker 5: making sure everything's all happy, driving all the way down
Speaker 5: to the keys to sit in Roxy's Green totaled in
Speaker 5: for lunch and back and we still hadn't picked.
Speaker 2: So what was that like five or six hours?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was a long break.
Speaker 5: In the actual it wasn't the show it is today
Speaker 5: in primetime TV and all that.
Speaker 4: It was a different world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is. I mean shooting now we have
Speaker 2: they did an announcement of the schedule during the draft
Speaker 2: this year that they announced the announcement of the schedule.
Speaker 2: It's like everything with the bells and whistles these days,
Speaker 2: and that's cly. A positive thing is that it shows
Speaker 2: the NFL's growth over many, many years. And one of
Speaker 2: the things that you did was become a director after
Speaker 2: eleven seasons. What do you think went into getting that
Speaker 2: elevation into that role and what did that change mean
Speaker 2: for you as personally?
Speaker 5: Well, I was a young man starting a family, so
Speaker 5: financially it was very good for sure to take on
Speaker 5: the new role. And I was already familiar with the equipment,
Speaker 5: so it wasn't a big change for me. But it
Speaker 5: did require you learning new skills, and so I took
Speaker 5: all my old skills piled them into that, and I
Speaker 5: think I was fairly successful.
Speaker 2: At that, I would say so. I think the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame calling certainly would verify that for
Speaker 2: you as well. And we've kind of touched on this
Speaker 2: a little bit day, but I want to just maybe
Speaker 2: go a little bit further into it, because to the layman,
Speaker 2: the idea of transitioning from the sixteen millimeter to digital
Speaker 2: the evolution of technology. Was it difficult to learn that
Speaker 2: for you or was that kind of an easy transition
Speaker 2: as you know, someone that had been doing it for
Speaker 2: so long, Well.
Speaker 5: That was that was an easy transition for me. And
Speaker 5: actually it wasn't from film to digital. It was filmed
Speaker 5: to analog tape first, and then the computers got into it.
Speaker 5: And then what happened was you we were able to
Speaker 5: take the images from the videotape and put them into
Speaker 5: a computer and then marry that with the database. So
Speaker 5: it was actually three steps to get to our final
Speaker 5: product today and it's all digital pusher button stuff.
Speaker 2: So were you the one that had to kind of
Speaker 2: get coach Saban up to speed when he got here
Speaker 2: on how the NFL films worked.
Speaker 5: Actually, Nick had was far enough along where he was
Speaker 5: coaching that they knew the digital side of the world
Speaker 5: and so they were familiar with it. So we didn't
Speaker 5: have to do much early training with his career. They
Speaker 5: already knew what was going on. But with the Dolphins
Speaker 5: and our coaches first started messing with computers and all
Speaker 5: that stuff, we actually had to teach some of them
Speaker 5: how to use a mouse.
Speaker 2: Doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's a football coach, right.
Speaker 2: That was an age where computers were only for nerds, right,
Speaker 2: That was the general thought back then, right.
Speaker 5: I remember the first computer at our old training camp
Speaker 5: was a word process or used by Shula's secretary, and
Speaker 5: that was it in the building.
Speaker 2: Was Sheula pretty computer savvy?
Speaker 4: Actually? I was surprised. Yes he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, he was pretty good at everything. It
Speaker 2: sounds like, yeah, he was. Something else that kind of
Speaker 2: fascinates me, Dave, is the relationship of a coworker of
Speaker 2: yours that was also your brother Bob, for twenty years
Speaker 2: together you worked with him.
Speaker 5: Yes, I had that privilege of working with my brother,
Speaker 5: and we were always very good at if we had
Speaker 5: a situation where we needed to think tank it, we
Speaker 5: were always good at coming up with the right answer.
Speaker 5: Like when we went to the digital we had to
Speaker 5: go into the computer room and design our own racks
Speaker 5: and stuff to make our server work in the building
Speaker 5: we were in, and to distribute all that video and
Speaker 5: database information to everyone.
Speaker 4: So that was quite a challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like I think that was one of
Speaker 2: the things that I was talking to our again, our
Speaker 2: current director of football video here, Mike Knobler, was talking
Speaker 2: about let's see it was she was the name of it?
Speaker 2: I had it written down here. Oh, Sports Pro that
Speaker 2: that new implemented system of you guys had. I think
Speaker 2: that was that was around around Coach Saban's time, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: Yes, Well, we had a small version of that, and
Speaker 5: we with Coach Saban there we were able to secure
Speaker 5: funding for a more advanced version of that. So we
Speaker 5: really took off after that. As far as our technology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike was saying it was the gold standard in
Speaker 2: terms of your guys, like forty stations for coaches and
Speaker 2: and just kind of creating again the gold standard was
Speaker 2: at that time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a lot of support from our vendor
Speaker 5: too to implement and give us the latest technology, which
Speaker 5: was great.
Speaker 2: That's that's really cool. And one of the other things
Speaker 2: he mentioned was a letter that you guys, he said,
Speaker 2: either you or your brother or together wrote a letter
Speaker 2: to thirty one organizations about this idea of going something
Speaker 2: to DVC pro, which is a digital version of the tape,
Speaker 2: and it was going to be a big expense for
Speaker 2: all the teams with new cam cameras and recorders and
Speaker 2: new decks. But you guys said that wasn't a great
Speaker 2: idea and it worked. Can you take us through how
Speaker 2: that all?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: How that all played out.
Speaker 4: That's the longer story than we have time for.
Speaker 5: But there was a move because our beta cam Sony
Speaker 5: betacam equipment was aging and they were changing. Sony was
Speaker 5: changing on their business model, and so we wanted to
Speaker 5: make sure the NFL was in the right place for
Speaker 5: the next set phase of what we're doing and members
Speaker 5: sending in a meeting.
Speaker 4: And if you ever sit.
Speaker 5: In a meeting and you're the only guy holding up
Speaker 5: your hand to vote on something, you need to look
Speaker 5: behind you, because everybody else.
Speaker 4: Had their hand down looking at me like you're nuts.
Speaker 5: But I did offer a letter to all the owners
Speaker 5: and it was like with Sony versus Panasonic, all we
Speaker 5: ever heard was Panasonic, this is Panasonic, that they never
Speaker 5: really invited Sony to the table.
Speaker 4: To speak their mind.
Speaker 5: And so I put a with my letter, put a
Speaker 5: hold on the proceedings to go with Panasonic and to
Speaker 5: do more research on what we actually did and what
Speaker 5: we actually needed. And I think I was the only
Speaker 5: person to turn around a unanimous vote by the Competition
Speaker 5: committee to put a hold on Panasonic and to review Sony,
Speaker 5: And once Sony got back in the fold again, the
Speaker 5: decision was to keep our legacy hardware and modernize it
Speaker 5: and move on from there and not do a radical
Speaker 5: change in format. And the best part about that was, Travis,
Speaker 5: was all of your legacy tapes that you had. As
Speaker 5: coaches moved around from team the team, they'd have the
Speaker 5: little box of tapes they take with them when they
Speaker 5: went to the new stuff from Sony. Everything played everywhere.
Speaker 5: You didn't have to change it, you don't have to
Speaker 5: convert it. It was the logical thing to do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's a lot for someone that doesn't
Speaker 2: understand or that doesn't have a first hand experience in
Speaker 2: that field to really kind of take in. But it
Speaker 2: just speaks to the evolution of where we are and
Speaker 2: how much more streamlined the game is these days. And
Speaker 2: it reminds me of a question I had for you
Speaker 2: here about, you know, the advances we've seen in the
Speaker 2: last several years, where obviously tech is taking off at
Speaker 2: a whole different rate these days, but did you think
Speaker 2: we would get to where we are today with all
Speaker 2: these VR headset trainings and cameras on helmets. Did you
Speaker 2: think we'd eventually get to this position with technology is And.
Speaker 5: Don't forget RFID tags in the shoulder pads, right right.
Speaker 5: So speaking of shoulder pads, there's two guys I'd like
Speaker 5: to call out, and they're my wonderful friends there are
Speaker 5: still with the Dolphins. It's your equipment guys. Yeah, Joey
Speaker 5: and Charlie are my good buddies. They always will be
Speaker 5: and I want to give a big shout out to them.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're the best yests. That's a great, great spot
Speaker 2: to do that. Have you got a chance to watch
Speaker 2: every single touchdown pass and watch every single game of
Speaker 2: the Electric Dan Marino's career, And in his speech he
Speaker 2: acknowledged that you were the only person that saw all
Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty touchdowns. I'm curious what that meant
Speaker 2: to you. And do you have a favorite Dan Marino
Speaker 2: touchdown pass?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 5: Dan and I talked about this one time. We played
Speaker 5: a game versus Pittsburgh for the AFC Championship and and
Speaker 5: we won that game. But I remember late in the game,
Speaker 5: there is one pass I think it was to Mark
Speaker 5: Clayton that put us right down on the goal line,
Speaker 5: and you knew in your and you look at the
Speaker 5: clock and knew how we were playing. We're going to
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, so that was one of my favorite
Speaker 5: Dan Marino touchdown.
Speaker 4: I got one more Dan Marinos story.
Speaker 2: For you, please.
Speaker 5: There's something that a lot of people didn't see about
Speaker 5: Dan Marino.
Speaker 4: You know what Make a Wishes Travis. Yeah, there with
Speaker 4: the kids and all that making the wish.
Speaker 5: Dan was one of the most popular Make a Wish
Speaker 5: guys ever. And I can't tell you how many times
Speaker 5: I saw after a game, win or lose, he would
Speaker 5: compassionately take the time to go over and interact with
Speaker 5: these Make a Wish kids and it was outstanding.
Speaker 2: That is just a great story to kind of put
Speaker 2: together the two ledges we're talking about here on the
Speaker 2: show of Dan Marino and Dave Hack. Dave, I appreciate
Speaker 2: those those stories and the intel. I do want to
Speaker 2: close with this, and you do a great job of
Speaker 2: kind of deflecting some of the praise here I've noticed
Speaker 2: in this interview, but I do want to hear what
Speaker 2: this means to you when when you heard about this honor,
Speaker 2: when Dan gave you the phone call and you kind
Speaker 2: of your holy bleep, I saw the video. It was
Speaker 2: so good. What does this all mean to you, Dave?
Speaker 5: Coming from Dan and coming from my peers. It's a
Speaker 5: priceless thing for me. It shows you how well organized
Speaker 5: our group was to even be able to have an
Speaker 5: award like this, and I think it's just wonderful to
Speaker 5: be honored with some of these other pioneers in the field, and.
Speaker 2: One of those pioneers being a different field, but in
Speaker 2: our organization here, Jason Jenkins will also be given a
Speaker 2: or be elected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: and the Awards of Excellence too, So two really big
Speaker 2: names in our organization, two guys with legendary status being
Speaker 2: cemented into the PFH Pro Football Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 2: should say, Dave, thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on this honor and a brilliant life in football.
Speaker 2: And it was nice to meet you.
Speaker 5: Travis Move is my pleasure, and thank you for having
Speaker 5: me anytime.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Dave. That was a lot of fun
Speaker 2: to get to know Dave there and talk about his story.
Speaker 2: For a guy that saw thirty four consecutive years of
Speaker 2: Dolphins football without missing a game, uh yeah you might.
Speaker 2: He might have a few stories to tell you fans
Speaker 2: out there about what Dolphins football was and has been
Speaker 2: for for a long, long time, last break right there,
Speaker 2: speaking of Dolphins legends, coming back on the other side
Speaker 2: and talking to Nat Moore. That's next Draft Time Podcast,
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Speaker 2: the Draft Time Podcast is Dolphins Legend. Dolphins Great Nat More, Nat,
Speaker 2: welcome in.
Speaker 3: How you doing fantastic.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard so many great things about the
Speaker 1: show and look forward to the opportunity to share a
Speaker 1: little bit of my history with the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's we're all about that. I remember back when
Speaker 2: when I first started here, was right before the pandemic happened,
Speaker 2: and we launched this idea to look at old Dolphins
Speaker 2: games because everybody was doing that right right, and we
Speaker 2: had we had you on talking about the eighty five
Speaker 2: Bears win and the touchdown you scored in that game.
Speaker 2: And I haven't I don't think i've I've had you
Speaker 2: on the show ever since then. But it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's good to have you back on here.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: So the reason we're having you on today is a
Speaker 2: pretty big deal. So Second, a portion of Northwest second
Speaker 2: app So I've tried to read this here because it's
Speaker 2: a lot of numbers between fifty ninth and sixty second
Speaker 2: Street were named Namore Away, right next to Miami Edison
Speaker 2: High School, where you played your prep football. So to
Speaker 2: kick it off, let's start with, you know, the honor.
Speaker 2: Take me through the emotions and the excitement when you
Speaker 2: heard this is going to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I heard a year ago that there
Speaker 1: was a possibility, and you know, those kind of things
Speaker 1: don't really really excite me.
Speaker 3: You know. I think we do the things we do
Speaker 3: because we care.
Speaker 1: And the Miami Dolphins have given me a gigantic platform
Speaker 1: where I can make a difference in all in Miami
Speaker 1: or South Florida, where I grew up. And because of that,
Speaker 1: so many people support you. I'm able to get my
Speaker 1: former teammates and all the Dolphin players, sponsors, partners that
Speaker 1: come to the table to make South Florida a better
Speaker 1: place to live. And then all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: want to honor you for that, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: they call it an individual award, But I don't believe
Speaker 1: in individual awards.
Speaker 3: I played football for a living. It took eleven.
Speaker 1: Guys doing their job on one play from five to
Speaker 1: eight seconds to be successful.
Speaker 3: That one play. So when it actually happened is when
Speaker 3: it really hit.
Speaker 1: Me that this was something special and extremely extremely appreciative.
Speaker 1: They couldn't have chosen a better place to put my name,
Speaker 1: because that's where I harnessed my skills, right there at
Speaker 1: Edison High School. Matter of fact, right there on sixty
Speaker 1: second and second Avenue where I saw the signs across
Speaker 1: from the gymnasium where I played basketball. You know, basketball
Speaker 1: was really my first love. Football was second. But at
Speaker 1: some point I realized Travis that I was going to
Speaker 1: be five to nine, you know, I wasn't gonna get
Speaker 1: any tallder, So of course I needed to focus on
Speaker 1: football a little bit more. And ironically most people don't recall,
Speaker 1: but I played junior CIH this basketball before I went
Speaker 1: to University of Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at five foot nine, what's been pretty good to
Speaker 2: taket to that level.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of the great things about playing
Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins back in the old days was
Speaker 1: that there was no off season draining, right. We had
Speaker 1: this barnstorming basketball team, so we would travel around and
Speaker 1: play games against coaches and teachers and firefighters and polleys
Speaker 1: and help them raise money and we'd make a little
Speaker 1: money while staying in shape. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: when you go back and you look at the seventies
Speaker 1: and the eighties and even the nineties, the players that
Speaker 1: played together were so close because they did more than
Speaker 1: just play football together. They spent so much quality time
Speaker 1: together doing other things.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you mentioned that you know this was something.
Speaker 2: And I read the story on the Miami Herald about
Speaker 2: when you when they unveiled the street name, and you
Speaker 2: were there for the ceremony, and I believe you spoke,
Speaker 2: and the article was like, but Natt wasn't trying to
Speaker 2: like get the attention on him for all this, because
Speaker 2: that's that's the entire idea of the servitude that you
Speaker 2: provide to the South Florida community. Right, It's about, like
Speaker 2: you said, it's about your teammates, it's about the community.
Speaker 2: It's about the people that impact sim I suppose that
Speaker 2: maybe the best part about all of it is that
Speaker 2: that recognition of your name on that street, in your
Speaker 2: old stomping grounds where you harnessed all your skills, people
Speaker 2: can look up to that and say I can be
Speaker 2: like that more, not just as an athlete, but I
Speaker 2: can have this type of impact in my community.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: You know, as a successful individual, your success is based
Speaker 1: off so many others. But how do you show young people,
Speaker 1: young kids, that they can do it too? You know,
Speaker 1: back in the late nineties, no early nineties, excuse me,
Speaker 1: when Super Bowl came back to Miami, we started a
Speaker 1: football camp and once again I'm serving on a committee.
Speaker 1: And there was two events for Super Bowl, and everybody
Speaker 1: forget that there were two.
Speaker 3: One was the game and the other was the Commissioner's party.
Speaker 1: There was no NFL Live, there were none of the parties,
Speaker 1: there was none of that. And I remember serving on
Speaker 1: the committee and everybody's so tickle pink about having the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, And I said, why, what's in it for
Speaker 1: the people here locally?
Speaker 3: They're not going to get a.
Speaker 1: Ticket to the Commissioner's party. They sure as hell I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get a ticket to the game. So why
Speaker 1: should South Florida be so excited? And they said, well, well,
Speaker 1: what do you think, what do we need to do?
Speaker 1: I said, let's do something for the kids. It's it's
Speaker 1: the heartstring of everybody. And we start doing football camps
Speaker 1: and that first year we had over five thousand people
Speaker 1: in the parking lot as guys from all around the
Speaker 1: league came in because they were once just like those kids.
Speaker 1: And the funny part was, after all over, Pete Roselle said,
Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Jim Steek, who had
Speaker 1: been with the Dobins, had been a personal friend.
Speaker 3: He goes, can you do this at every Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: And for twenty some years I would reach out to
Speaker 1: all my friends across the league and we would do
Speaker 1: football camps, not to teach them football, but the show
Speaker 1: kids that we were no different than they are. If
Speaker 1: you want to have success, it's easy. Work at your craft,
Speaker 1: stayed the heck out of trouble, and give yourself an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Don't take yourself out the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell a story all the time. I was
Speaker 2: a probably third fourth grade. I was from the Seattle area.
Speaker 2: They brought Kingerfred Junior to my school. I never forgot
Speaker 2: that and that it was so it was so impactful
Speaker 2: my life, like that I was teased right here, the
Speaker 2: superstars right here, you know, and just to be around
Speaker 2: the athletes and see that, to your point, it has
Speaker 2: a really really big impact. So was that kind of
Speaker 2: how the foundation that that Moore Foundation kind of began
Speaker 2: was with those football camps.
Speaker 1: Well, I always, even when I was playing football, I
Speaker 1: always sort of did fundraisers for different charities in the community.
Speaker 1: I started with a fashion show with Bob Greasy and
Speaker 1: all those guys walking down the aisle, they go never again,
Speaker 1: Never again as their photograph.
Speaker 3: That So the following year I went to.
Speaker 1: Running golf tournaments, which I'm still doing, and we realized
Speaker 1: that we could raise more money and we could give
Speaker 1: more back into the community with the mind pop charities
Speaker 1: to help them keep kids out of trouble off the streets.
Speaker 3: And in the.
Speaker 1: Process, you know, when I retired, I decided, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it for all these separate charities, why don't
Speaker 1: I just turn around and have my own foundation do
Speaker 1: it one time raises much money instead of trying to
Speaker 1: raise ten thousand of this in, ten thousand for that,
Speaker 1: seventy five hundred for.
Speaker 3: This one, and then disperse it.
Speaker 1: And then eventually that we got to where we decided
Speaker 1: to do the endowment fund, which is what I'm most
Speaker 1: proud of.
Speaker 2: That's really cool. I was reading about that in the
Speaker 2: article I told you about on the Miami Held earlier.
Speaker 2: Can you maybe just expand upon the Endowment Fund and
Speaker 2: what works like that is and what it does.
Speaker 1: For kids, Well, it's an opportunity for kids to receive
Speaker 1: funding for four years for college. Or we have a
Speaker 1: vocational trade part to it as well, where folks can
Speaker 1: come in and most of us construction trade, but they
Speaker 1: can come in and learn a trade and in a
Speaker 1: matter of four months they're working and they're making forty
Speaker 1: to fifty sixty thousand.
Speaker 3: Dollars a year.
Speaker 1: So our goal is basically just trying to give people
Speaker 1: a leg up. And Erica Simmons does a fantastic job
Speaker 1: of running the Endowment Fund or the foundation for many
Speaker 1: many years and we're very proud of it. And our
Speaker 1: goal is to continue to do what we're doing, but
Speaker 1: even more so to raise more money and have it
Speaker 1: where that fund is there in perpetuity.
Speaker 2: That's outstanding. Yeah, you and your team doing a great
Speaker 2: job of making a big difference in these kids' lives.
Speaker 2: And you know, I can't turn on CBS Miami without
Speaker 2: seeing either than that more trophy or that you know
Speaker 2: something something with you and your foundation, or the high
Speaker 2: school player of the Year or whatever it is. It's
Speaker 2: all over the place. So it's great to see, but
Speaker 2: I kind of want to go back here and back
Speaker 2: to the Miami Edison days because you talk about seeing
Speaker 2: that street sign right across from the gymnasum you used
Speaker 2: to hoop in. I just I'm picturing, like again, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to put myself in that experience and like, you know,
Speaker 2: thinking back to my high school days, like how cool
Speaker 2: that would be to see that and how that would
Speaker 2: impact every kid you know there after me. But for you,
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, like, did you you know having that street
Speaker 2: name that more way be there, Like you must kind
Speaker 2: of take yourself back to those high school days and
Speaker 2: walking down that street right. I'm sure you spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time there, And I'm just I guess I'm
Speaker 2: trying to ask you when you when you reflect upon
Speaker 2: what it is now versus what it was then, like
Speaker 2: what kind of comes to mind?
Speaker 1: I think what comes to mind when I think about
Speaker 1: that accolae is what a screw up I was, tacky
Speaker 1: and how one athlete just showing up changed my life.
Speaker 1: You know, the Miami Dolphins back in nineteen sixty six
Speaker 1: started the franchise and probably was the worst franchise in
Speaker 1: football and nobody.
Speaker 3: Really wanted to go see him play. They weren't that competitive.
Speaker 1: And one of my math teachers got to know one
Speaker 1: of the Dolphin players and just like we do where
Speaker 1: we send players to schools, got him to come out
Speaker 1: and he's speaking to the entire school and we're sitting
Speaker 1: an auditorium and drivers them looking at him on the
Speaker 1: stage and I'm just looking and I can't tell you
Speaker 1: today what he said. I was so meslenized by his size.
Speaker 1: Then the only thing kept going through my mind is, Damn,
Speaker 1: he's small. You know, he's a literald guy, you know,
Speaker 1: because on TV, guys are larger than life.
Speaker 3: The guy's name was Jimmy Warren.
Speaker 1: And when Jimmy came off stage, I was like, Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm big as he is right now. If he can
Speaker 1: do it, I can do it. What do I need
Speaker 1: to do to get to where he is? And that's
Speaker 1: why that that thought is always in my head about
Speaker 1: putting athletes with kids, because you never know the impression.
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything he's said, It was just him me seeing.
Speaker 1: Him that said, if he can play pro ball, why
Speaker 1: can't I. I just need to stay on the straight
Speaker 1: and narrow and The funny part about that story is
Speaker 1: five years later, I'm in the NFL. He's no longer
Speaker 1: with the Miama Dolphins. I'm with the Miami Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: run the opening kickoff back for a touchdown against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and he's with the Raiders and he's the guy chasing me.
Speaker 3: And I was like, Jimmy, none of this would have
Speaker 3: happened if you did.
Speaker 2: He talk about that afterwards, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It got to be really good friends with him.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, through the years, his wife at the
Speaker 1: time is very close with my wife, so we have
Speaker 1: a good relationship. But you never know what impression you
Speaker 1: can make on young people by just showing up.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's the whole idea behind the street sign, right,
Speaker 2: is it brings attention to what you're doing, not to you. Necessarily,
Speaker 2: it does, but that's not your goal. It brings the
Speaker 2: attention to what you're doing, which is the most important
Speaker 2: thing here. And this might be an obvious question and
Speaker 2: answer no, but I feel like it needs to be asked.
Speaker 2: You you're born and raised here. You mentioned leaving coming back.
Speaker 2: You've spent so much of your your really most of
Speaker 2: your life here. What is it about the South Florida
Speaker 2: community that's so special to you. You're mister South Florida.
Speaker 2: Why is this area so special?
Speaker 1: I think it's to people. It's a melting pot of
Speaker 1: the world, you know. I mean, you name the nationality,
Speaker 1: they're here. And unlike back in the sixties and extens
Speaker 1: when we had the race riots and all that going on,
Speaker 1: everybody seems to get along. We have some issues. Every city,
Speaker 1: every great city, has some issues. But overall, the one
Speaker 1: thing that I know about this community is when things
Speaker 1: get tough, everybody comes together to help each other.
Speaker 3: And that's all you can ask.
Speaker 1: We're never going to agree on everything, but when things
Speaker 1: get tough, you know, you talk about the pandemic, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're feeding everybody. Everybody's coming to the
Speaker 1: table because we believe you get a hurricane. Same thing.
Speaker 1: That's what's great about this community. We fight like brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters. We don't agree, but when things get tough,
Speaker 1: we all come together for the betterment of the community.
Speaker 2: It's when you mentioned that I can all I can
Speaker 2: think of is Jason Jenkins and the meals and everything,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and just how instrumental he was to
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, it's it's been cool for someone that
Speaker 2: came here from you know, an outside perspective, from the
Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest to come down and see all the impact
Speaker 2: that you and yourself and Jason Jenkins had on the
Speaker 2: Communit just really really cool stuff. I guess I'll end
Speaker 2: with this, not what's next, what's coming up for them?
Speaker 2: Not more foundation? What can folks look forward to?
Speaker 1: I think it's just the same things. You know, if
Speaker 1: the old saying, if it ain't broke, you don't fix it.
Speaker 1: You know, you always try and grow it. So we'll
Speaker 1: try and get more partners, more sponsors, take care more kids.
Speaker 3: The more money.
Speaker 1: We raise, the bigger the endowment becomes, the more students.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I go to an event in Montgomery, Alabama called the
Speaker 1: Jimmy Rain Foundation. It's been going on twenty five years now,
Speaker 1: and I don't know exactly how much money is in
Speaker 1: that endowment. And this is a big event where mostly
Speaker 1: SEC schools, old coaches, players, et cetera, all show up
Speaker 1: and it's a big fundraiser, a dinner and a golf outing.
Speaker 1: They have in the last twenty five years set over
Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy some kids to the college of
Speaker 1: their choice.
Speaker 3: The first year they did one well.
Speaker 1: So when I go and I see things like that,
Speaker 1: the vision becomes why can't we do this? Why can't
Speaker 1: we eventually have an endowment that's so big that kids
Speaker 1: know that if they do things the right way, they
Speaker 1: don't have a chance to apply and maybe get a
Speaker 1: scholarship where they can go to the universe of their choice.
Speaker 2: So when you have these these thoughts and grandeur ideas,
Speaker 2: who do you how do you get the ball rolling
Speaker 2: on that? You've kind of got my brain curious here,
Speaker 2: what's what's the process of Like they can do it?
Speaker 2: Why can't I?
Speaker 3: What do you? What do you do?
Speaker 2: Then? Do next? Like what's the next step in the world.
Speaker 1: You spend more time with them figuring out how to
Speaker 1: and then you you bring in your people, and then
Speaker 1: you start to target the people that you know can
Speaker 1: synergize the vision. You know, nobody does any thing by themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, and without partners, without sponsors, without the celebrities,
Speaker 1: the athletes showing up, without the the the vendors, you
Speaker 1: got nothing.
Speaker 3: The question is how you get the ball in the
Speaker 3: room for a cause? And the ones that.
Speaker 1: Do that well succeed and is really able to do
Speaker 1: a lot. And I can't thank the Miama Dolphins enough
Speaker 1: for allowing me to bring my endowment fund into the
Speaker 1: Mima Dolphins Foundation, because I did close down my foundation
Speaker 1: and hopefully it'll be a part of the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: Foundation forever. You know, when I think about it, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have it if it wasn't for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't. Wouldn't would have never had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to do this. And who has more synergy, who
Speaker 1: has more opportunities to grow things than the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a crowd to you for taking the platform
Speaker 2: and running with it the way you did your entire
Speaker 2: football and basketball career. You made the most out of
Speaker 2: everything you could possibly do, so not more. We appreciate
Speaker 2: your time today. Congratulations on the on the street renaming
Speaker 2: Miami Edison High, and just everything you've done. It's really cool.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time today and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me a day of legends here
Speaker 2: on the Draft Time Podcast, talking to Liz Jenkins, tom Garfinkel,
Speaker 2: to Tony Wiley, Dave Hacken, of course Nat more right
Speaker 2: there and for more on the nap more and down.
Speaker 2: You can visit Miami Dolphins dot com to read all
Speaker 2: about his foundation and what he does here for the community.
Speaker 2: Not is a star player who's work and impacting the
Speaker 2: community transcends the football field. So appreciate NAT's time on
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