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Speaker 1: great Mark Sessler today in the studio. What's up about that?
Speaker 1: Fell right to me? I mean, I don't know why
Speaker 1: we don't go back to this tu Man format more often.
Speaker 1: It feels pure. Do you mean, like perpetuity, just moving forward? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe when they wipe out the entire like
Speaker 1: digital side of our news operation, we wind up at
Speaker 1: some local radio station in San Diego doing something like this. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's good to have options and this
Speaker 1: is reps because West West out today. Greg back in
Speaker 1: the field. Where's Greg today? Greg? I believe is in
Speaker 1: uh San Diego, excuse me, Los Angeles, Costa Masa, outside
Speaker 1: of San Diego. All right, A lot of different things.
Speaker 1: He's with the Rams today and uh, he'll be back
Speaker 1: with us on Friday, hopefully West as well, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: But today it's just you and me, Mark and they
Speaker 1: are show. If you are newer to the show, you
Speaker 1: may not be aware. And we even have Alex Welke
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Speaker 1: findable for the most part on our site. Is that
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Speaker 1: You know? Anyway, big show today, big show, just the
Speaker 1: two of us, but a lot to talk about. Uh.
Speaker 1: In Texans camp, some bad news for their offense involving
Speaker 1: will Fuller their Firmer former first round pick. So we'll
Speaker 1: get into what went on down there. Uh, And then
Speaker 1: our training camp spotlight series will roll on with the
Speaker 1: New York Jets in their murky quarterback situation. Had to
Speaker 1: squeeze this Jets segment in while cragging West for away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the perfect time. And Wilk, really, nice job.
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Speaker 1: by the way, Mr usc And finally, uh, a little
Speaker 1: talk about the newing of Patriots. It's always fun to talk.
Speaker 1: Should be fair and balanced about the Pats and what's
Speaker 1: going on. A very difficult first world problem they're dealing with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been through a lot, and I think we'll dig
Speaker 1: into that. It's I think you're gonna it's gonna generate
Speaker 1: some sympathy for that club. Yeah. So all that coming up,
Speaker 1: including we wanted to hit it on our last show,
Speaker 1: we're not able to get to it. Just too much talking.
Speaker 1: That's one of the problems with our podcast is that
Speaker 1: we talked too much. And sometimes that that we can
Speaker 1: go the route where it's a you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: and forty minute podcast, or we just have to cut
Speaker 1: down the show. Well, what else would we be doing
Speaker 1: on an audio radio program. Just the amount amount it's
Speaker 1: too much. And I speak for myself as well as
Speaker 1: the rest of you. I thought I did a fine job,
Speaker 1: and then I don't think I overspoke. I I was
Speaker 1: very controlled in the last episode, a considerable amount of
Speaker 1: speaking from you as wal Mark, as I studied. You know,
Speaker 1: it's go back and track study every show and and
Speaker 1: track it like a like a picture, like charting pitches
Speaker 1: for some saber Metrics, little saber Metrics strongly disagree with
Speaker 1: your findings. Um. Anyway, so we had a bump mail
Speaker 1: bag on Monday show. But today's show, we will bring
Speaker 1: the mail back bag and good way to I like
Speaker 1: to say interface with the listeners. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think last week we were kind of struggling for last
Speaker 1: show for a for a topic it was a bit
Speaker 1: of a patch of an idea and somehow it's existed
Speaker 1: into a second show. Yeah, and uh, finally we'll we'll
Speaker 1: cap the show with the return of a satellite hero
Speaker 1: who has to get something off his chest. I'll leave
Speaker 1: it at that. I'll leave it at that. But before
Speaker 1: we do any of that, we got to catch up
Speaker 1: on the news. And uh, to do that, we say
Speaker 1: hello to Sully behind the glass. Fellas. This is a
Speaker 1: jam packed one. It's gonna be a good one today,
Speaker 1: I hope. So a lot of people behind the glass. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see just me and Mark, Mark and I go
Speaker 1: way back. Let me let me Hey, so you asked
Speaker 1: me the question. Now let me go through the process. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean Mark and I friends. I love each other
Speaker 1: ups and down to the years. What I was hanging out.
Speaker 1: They like each other, miss my other buddies, be minus
Speaker 1: be might a show today? All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news. No days, all no days, all
Speaker 1: no days all. Okay, let's get this show back on track. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll start with Yes, the Houston Texans bad news. There
Speaker 1: wide receiver Will Fuller the first round pick in two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen broke his collar bone. Mark. I know
Speaker 1: you'd like to say clavical during practice, no clear timetable
Speaker 1: for return. This is coming from rap sheet ESPN first
Speaker 1: report of the development. UH twenty three years old. UH
Speaker 1: forty seven catches last year. Maybe underwhelming considering the amount
Speaker 1: of hype about him coming to Houston, but a lot
Speaker 1: of that, you would say, Mark probably points to their
Speaker 1: issues a quarterback. They're hoping to really get him and
Speaker 1: Hopkins side by side going this season and now, especially
Speaker 1: a clavical injury. It brings the mind Carlos Rogers way
Speaker 1: back in the day with with the Lions. It's an
Speaker 1: injury that can come back and haunt you. Um. Of course,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo another example bad news. You like to say classical.
Speaker 1: I think I prefer the more common man version of
Speaker 1: color bone, which I think more people understand. The Simpleton's
Speaker 1: classical I called the color bone Braxton, Miller, Jal and Strong.
Speaker 1: These guys are gonna have to step up now across
Speaker 1: from DeAndre Hopkins. You know with Fuller he was he
Speaker 1: was so fascinating to watch early in the year. Last
Speaker 1: year two yard games out of the gate. Never came
Speaker 1: back and repeated that I mean he he really I
Speaker 1: think struggle with drops that was a huge issue for
Speaker 1: him to focus on this offseason. But it's bad news
Speaker 1: for whether it's Tom Savage or especially if it's Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson that wins this this battle. That's something you're losing,
Speaker 1: your deep threat. This is what's been missing in that
Speaker 1: offense for so long, and now they're missing it for
Speaker 1: a good long time. But it's just the two of us.
Speaker 1: If you can help me out, I said Carlos Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Charles Rogers, I have to understand that when you're speaking,
Speaker 1: I'm basically just thinking about what I'm gonna say. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm rarely gonna help you out on I got you,
Speaker 1: I got you. I caught myself there. But now with
Speaker 1: Fuller out, DeAndre Hopkins again a lot of pressure on
Speaker 1: him to be the entire offense. He was able to
Speaker 1: be that two years ago. Last year maybe not so much.
Speaker 1: And now they have to put the focus on to
Speaker 1: Braxton miller Um former quarterback to a third round pick
Speaker 1: um fifteen catches last year. They're gonna need some people
Speaker 1: to step up in this office. Well, how about Jalen Strong,
Speaker 1: who has really been I think pretty underwhelming. I mean
Speaker 1: that's where these guys as a group have to make
Speaker 1: it happen. Uh, moving on more injury news. This one
Speaker 1: very tough for the Rams. Defensive end Dominique easily Um
Speaker 1: has suffered a torn a c l in practice. Rap
Speaker 1: Sheet reported it. It is the third time he has
Speaker 1: torn and his a c l uh twice in college
Speaker 1: and now he's got to try to rehab for a
Speaker 1: third time. The first round pick of Bill Belichick back
Speaker 1: Belichick back in two thousand and fourteen. They cut him
Speaker 1: early last season, but he had a nice year with
Speaker 1: the Rams. Kind of an under unheralded guy on a
Speaker 1: bad team, and now you have to wonder if his
Speaker 1: career is in doubt. It's hard to come back from that.
Speaker 1: Many a cls that's been done, but it's hard. Well
Speaker 1: it's been done by Thomas Davis and just a few others.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it is a It puts him into
Speaker 1: a rare group and not a pleasant group. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know the Rams. Meanwhile, it looks like Ethan Westbrooks
Speaker 1: someone enough to step up for them. But they are
Speaker 1: paper thin. They're rather thin. I know, everyone says, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips coming in everything with their thin at a
Speaker 1: sort of every level of their defense right now. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a big challenge for them out of the gate,
Speaker 1: and they can't afford to lose any more of these guys.
Speaker 1: Our buddy Pepper Spray is very high in the Rams
Speaker 1: defense with Wade Phillips. I would not put anything past
Speaker 1: son of bum. But you're right, they are not a
Speaker 1: team that could take a bunch of injuries. Don't have
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald on the field right now. He'll be there though. Uh.
Speaker 1: Moving on other injury news. This one originally to little
Speaker 1: pulled back the curtain move in our pre pro pre
Speaker 1: PROD meeting we called industry talk. Uh, we were going
Speaker 1: to lead with this one. Sterling Shepherd gets carted off
Speaker 1: Giants practice with a lower leg injury. And you know
Speaker 1: this is always very bad news. Uh. Percent of the
Speaker 1: time when you see the tweets coming out down on
Speaker 1: the field, a cart coming out to get him, he's
Speaker 1: crying on the field. Almost always it seems to be
Speaker 1: a c l injury, season ending injury some kind. This
Speaker 1: turned out alright, low ankle sprain for Sterling Shepherd, which
Speaker 1: is much better than the dreaded high ankle sprain, which
Speaker 1: can cost guys weeks and weeks, so we don't know
Speaker 1: how long he'll be out. Ben McAdoo said he's going
Speaker 1: to see how the receiver responds to initial treatment and
Speaker 1: go from there. But Shepherd seems to have dodged a
Speaker 1: major bullet because I think a lot of Giants fans,
Speaker 1: I would think, when they saw that said, oh my,
Speaker 1: this guy's yeah, because because the people who were there,
Speaker 1: and people didn't see the injury, but they saw, like
Speaker 1: you said, the response afterwards, and it was pretty fatal
Speaker 1: the reporting, and it seemed like, wow, the Giants had
Speaker 1: just lost a really important second year player for them,
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall suddenly enough to have a huge season if
Speaker 1: he's out, and it's not the case. And it's funny.
Speaker 1: It reminds me when we during these training camps, because
Speaker 1: all these teams are active and these injuries start happening invariably.
Speaker 1: That's sort of the breathless reporting where we were We're
Speaker 1: pumping out a post and it talks about all the
Speaker 1: possible negatives for the Giants, and three hours later they're fine.
Speaker 1: Because so the Giants, Yeah, we Mark and I were
Speaker 1: talking about this downstairs. I've noticed, and I'm very happy
Speaker 1: for Stirling Shepard. He's a young, ascended player and we
Speaker 1: you don't want him to have a bad injury. But
Speaker 1: certain franchises for whatever reason. I said, what I said
Speaker 1: to Mark was, you know, if if this guy was
Speaker 1: a promising Jets receiver, promising Browns receiver, you know, his
Speaker 1: his ankle is broken or the knee shot. Teams like
Speaker 1: the Giants, they're just those teams that are run better
Speaker 1: but also seemed to get some breaks. It ends up
Speaker 1: being not so serious. Right. If it's the Jets, it's
Speaker 1: like the entire you know, uh kitchen slash dining area
Speaker 1: catches on fire and you lose half your defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a totally different scenario for the Jets. In other news,
Speaker 1: Jordan read the Washington Redskins receiver Um he was put
Speaker 1: on the pup list. There was not a lot of
Speaker 1: concern going around at the time. Was expected to be
Speaker 1: a short stay, but now Redskins coach j Gruden announced
Speaker 1: that the tight ends injury might be something that they
Speaker 1: really have to be concerned with. Because Reid went to
Speaker 1: Charlotte to see a specialist about his toe injury. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no timetable for his return. This is nothing new, Mark, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dreaded no timetable for return. I mean, he missed
Speaker 1: four games last season with a concussion, had a shoulder injury,
Speaker 1: He's had lower body issues. Read is one of the
Speaker 1: more explosive tight ends in the league. But he can't
Speaker 1: stay healthy. This is the reverse of what we just
Speaker 1: talked about where it started. As you know, we're not concerned,
Speaker 1: we're being cautious with Read, and a week later, you know,
Speaker 1: the scope of what's happening is getting more concerning. The
Speaker 1: guy has missed eighteen games over four seasons. When he's
Speaker 1: on the field, Kirk Cousins is at his best. I mean,
Speaker 1: the offense absolutely needs Read out there. And to lose him,
Speaker 1: you know, the concussion thing is a whole separate issue
Speaker 1: because that at any moment seems to completely derail his career.
Speaker 1: But if they don't have him on offense, if this
Speaker 1: becomes a lingering thing that goes into September and on
Speaker 1: and on, they are not the same attack on any level.
Speaker 1: You know. Other news, Leonard Fournette is the first round
Speaker 1: pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Um Mark I have a question.
Speaker 1: Yes there's a there's a we're gonna get to it
Speaker 1: in a second, but uh, in your whole life. I
Speaker 1: want you to gues estimate this. Uh. And I know
Speaker 1: you weren't, nor was I a superstar high school or
Speaker 1: collegiate athlete. But I'm just curious how many trophies, uh,
Speaker 1: you acquired from let's say you know, t ball through it,
Speaker 1: we'll go even softball, like our shield championship. I'll count
Speaker 1: even though you were more I don't know if the
Speaker 1: advisor role this season, how many trophies do you think
Speaker 1: you've acquired in your life? I mean almost none for
Speaker 1: individual performance. I mean I would never be ranking high
Speaker 1: on that on that ladder, but you know I was
Speaker 1: on multiple team playing constantly some sort of team sport
Speaker 1: throughout my entire youth. So I'm thinking thirty thirty, that's
Speaker 1: that's a fair number. I would say I would put
Speaker 1: myself in the twenty seven. That feels right, a little
Speaker 1: less than what I would have accrued like people like
Speaker 1: Sully in the millennial generation with all the participation trophies,
Speaker 1: it's probably in the thousands. I would think. For you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we uh, quite a few participation trophies. We didn't get nothing.
Speaker 1: It was like you failed son. Back to the coal
Speaker 1: mine for you, right, yeah, Anyway, I bring this up
Speaker 1: because Leonard four Nette of the Jaguars. Um, he's he's
Speaker 1: gained hundreds of trophies potentially. I don't know some of
Speaker 1: the reporting here's little dodgy, but the man had many,
Speaker 1: many trophies, and he's somebody that does not look back
Speaker 1: in the past. So he thought of an idea or
Speaker 1: someone thought of an idea for him. Him and the
Speaker 1: people at Metrics, which there's a supplement company marked you
Speaker 1: vouch of them on any level. I mean I know
Speaker 1: of them, Okay, I'm not tied into the mone any anyway,
Speaker 1: he's the only guys who care about anyone's right, Um,
Speaker 1: sup sup coup at Metrics. Uh. They came with the idea,
Speaker 1: what if we melt down your trophies, bra and turn
Speaker 1: them into weights for a local Jacksonville High school. And
Speaker 1: the initial reporting over a Big Cat Country a Sports
Speaker 1: Nation blog for the Jaguars was that for Net had
Speaker 1: seven hundred trophies that he donated, which you did the math. Well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't this got on my radar because again playing
Speaker 1: sports all year round, and I was given a trophy
Speaker 1: for every team I was on. It took years and
Speaker 1: years to get into what would be maybe thirty range
Speaker 1: seven hundred. I mean, you'd have to be splitting yourself
Speaker 1: into like multiple people and playing multiple sports at the
Speaker 1: same time. Just and I understand he did track and
Speaker 1: you get individual ones for that, but seven hundred to me,
Speaker 1: because we all tried to break it down, it seemed
Speaker 1: like if you have about a ten eleven year winter
Speaker 1: as a youth athlete, and he's like, exactly, it's not
Speaker 1: you know. This was that there was a limited time here.
Speaker 1: You've got to be getting sixty to seventy trophies a year,
Speaker 1: which it's like you're a salesman if you have a
Speaker 1: bad month, if you are a crew in two or
Speaker 1: three trophies a month. How does this end to be
Speaker 1: getting like trophies for finishing dinner. I mean it would
Speaker 1: have been have to be just basic life functions. Oh,
Speaker 1: you woke up this morning, here's a trophy. I called
Speaker 1: it out, and I was right, you nailed it, because
Speaker 1: they the writer of that piece eventually said that some
Speaker 1: of the trophies were donated, but the other point I
Speaker 1: wanted to make about this is this is one of
Speaker 1: those stories that make me feel kind of dimwitted because
Speaker 1: I can't process how a trophy can be melted down
Speaker 1: into composite parts and turned into weightlifting equipment. And then
Speaker 1: there's this video that that was posted along with this
Speaker 1: Q and A in which these like regular looking dudes
Speaker 1: are just like, oh yeah, we just take the composite part,
Speaker 1: to take the trophy dust put it off together one
Speaker 1: two three. It's like, am I stupid? Well? I I
Speaker 1: get caught up the same thing because a lot of
Speaker 1: the trophies I had, maybe now they're very you know,
Speaker 1: rich material, but a lot of times the Golden athlete,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, hitting a tennis racket or shooting
Speaker 1: a basketball probably off the rin like is it was
Speaker 1: made of plastic A lot of time it wasn't like
Speaker 1: high quality like you know, silver and gold. So you're
Speaker 1: you're melting it down and it just feels. I think
Speaker 1: it's a very nice thing to do for Rains high school,
Speaker 1: no questions there, but overly complex process. Why not maybe
Speaker 1: donate actual weights? Again, I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: a very nice thing that they've done so well disrespect, disrespect,
Speaker 1: just melting down. Let's move on. It kept me up,
Speaker 1: cost your time, your manter struggles, struggles to sleep in general.
Speaker 1: I don't need this. You need this on top of it.
Speaker 1: I don't need that. I don't need that. All right.
Speaker 1: Uh news for the Seattle Seahawks camp Chancellor. Remember when
Speaker 1: he uh um sat out a couple of games over
Speaker 1: money couple of years ago. Yeah, that wasn't pretty. And
Speaker 1: now you don't have to worry about that anymore because
Speaker 1: Chancellor this week signed a three year, thirty six million
Speaker 1: dollar contract extension. Uh million guaranteed. Does that count towards
Speaker 1: my five million curse for contracts? Not really right, it's
Speaker 1: a little off ringe. It's a three year deal and
Speaker 1: the million is guaranteed as opposed to the total that. No,
Speaker 1: he's in the clear, officially in the clear. Everybody, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it anyway, Raps, she'd have the numbers Chancellor
Speaker 1: coming off, coming up in the final year of a
Speaker 1: five year deal he's signed back in ESPN first reported,
Speaker 1: Seahawks later confirmed the signing. I will bring in Sally
Speaker 1: on this. So you are a Seahawks fan, uh I
Speaker 1: heard buzz I heard some whispers that maybe Cam was
Speaker 1: maybe on the other side uh last season, maybe not
Speaker 1: quite the player anymore. I think he needs Earle. I
Speaker 1: think he needs Earl Thomas. Those two together really really good.
Speaker 1: I think it was you can almost double the quarterback
Speaker 1: rating when both of them aren't playing. UM, So that
Speaker 1: duo needs to be together and that that's that's a
Speaker 1: huge move for Seahawks. I think with the Seahawks in
Speaker 1: telling you too, because there are whispers that Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: who has I think two years left on his deal,
Speaker 1: could talk about retirement. He's talked about retirement, but he
Speaker 1: also that was that was almost the same way that
Speaker 1: you talk about retirement as the shield manager when you
Speaker 1: know you've got to get out of that, out of
Speaker 1: the phrase that you're just in. And he did the same.
Speaker 1: But if they if they extend Thomas down the road,
Speaker 1: it tells you with Richard Sherman, that they absolutely are
Speaker 1: not ready to kind of move on from the legion
Speaker 1: of booms primary stars, that they still believe that if
Speaker 1: these guys can stay healthy, because Chancellor and Thomas have
Speaker 1: not often been healthy together, not fully healthy, and if
Speaker 1: you can get them back in that way, I agree
Speaker 1: with you, Sully, that there that this defense can still be.
Speaker 1: This is the last piece of the main core of
Speaker 1: the Seahawks that are together through Bobbies Bobbies locked down, uh,
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett's lockdown, so that that defense is there have
Speaker 1: been there have been, you know, discussions whispers in the
Speaker 1: past that Peake Harold at some point could decide to
Speaker 1: move on. So you wonder if maybe when all these
Speaker 1: contracts come up, that Pete Carroll says, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out with all these players, my player boy Tom Cable
Speaker 1: finally got a takeover football guy. It seems possible. Clock's
Speaker 1: ticking for sure, And I will I will also say
Speaker 1: I always enjoy it when fans like Sully refer to
Speaker 1: players that they root for by their first names. Yeah
Speaker 1: I did, Oh yeah, Bobby. Bobby is looking good this year.
Speaker 1: Bobby that I can't believe I did that. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: really excited about Bobby this year. Anyway, Thank you, Sully.
Speaker 1: Good Seahawks information. Hey, that Colin Kaepernick still doesn't have
Speaker 1: a job, folks, And everyone should know that the Ravens
Speaker 1: there's still thinking about it. They want to know that's
Speaker 1: going to the Ravens nest. And again a statement released
Speaker 1: by the team, a statement, just make a decision. Here
Speaker 1: it is, we are going through a can we get
Speaker 1: our missive music by any chance? I might putting me
Speaker 1: on the spot too much, a lot of pressure on selling.
Speaker 1: Here we go. This is from general manager Ozzie Newsome.
Speaker 1: We are going through a process and we have not
Speaker 1: made a decision. Steve Shaddy has not told us we
Speaker 1: cannot sign Colin Kaepernick, nor has he blocked the move.
Speaker 1: Whoever is making those claims, he's wrong. Like the Azzie
Speaker 1: Knewsom is a double negative up top. He has not
Speaker 1: told us we cannot say it's he's confused me? Is
Speaker 1: he's saying the opposite. I think they're trying to confuse you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's clear that there's some we I mean,
Speaker 1: it's clear there's intense discussions going on about this because
Speaker 1: this has become something a total life of its own.
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, when Colin Kaepernick finally gets
Speaker 1: on a team, at some point, the world's gonna move
Speaker 1: on three weeks into that, we're gonna have focus on
Speaker 1: new things. The fact that he's not the fact that
Speaker 1: the Ravens are going back and forth with this is
Speaker 1: only putting it under a bigger microscope. Do we need
Speaker 1: this statement? I do not need it. But there are
Speaker 1: a lot of things I don't need, but this would
Speaker 1: be one of the things I do not need. There
Speaker 1: were reports that that the owner of Rashadi had made
Speaker 1: the decision that he didn't think Kaepernick was worth the trouble.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like, I mean, it's probably not hard
Speaker 1: to connect the dots here. Aswering my own question that
Speaker 1: the owner, because the owner can do whatever he wants, says, hey,
Speaker 1: put out a statement letting everyone know I am not
Speaker 1: the bad guy here. I am not the one saying
Speaker 1: Colin kapern camp be on the team. But I'm also
Speaker 1: not the guy saying that he is going to be
Speaker 1: on the team. I think it's because I think it's
Speaker 1: the coach and the GM probably really want this guy
Speaker 1: on their team. They need it. You've got Ryan malle
Speaker 1: You're you're You've got Ryan Mallett position to start at
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco isn't in there. That's an absolute disaster in
Speaker 1: a season ender. So I think that the the football
Speaker 1: people really want this, and it's the people concerned about sponsorship,
Speaker 1: concerned about their fans. They got hundreds of calls to
Speaker 1: the complex. That's why this is so complex. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Terence Newman. By the way, one thing I liked how
Speaker 1: you turn Ozzy Newsom into like a British war general
Speaker 1: from the Revolutionary War. Thank you, it's well done. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Mark. Thank you for noticing. Terence Newman is
Speaker 1: is a rarity and rarity in the NFL. Uh he
Speaker 1: is a thirty eight year old NFL quarterback place for
Speaker 1: the Vikings and uh he has never been to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And uh he he equates that, uh to
Speaker 1: the parallels of another life quest, you know, getting to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl to him is the same as and
Speaker 1: this comes from the Star Tribune. Getting hot babes in college.
Speaker 1: You might get, you might get eye contact, maybe a smile,
Speaker 1: and then never hear from her again. Right, So I'm
Speaker 1: chasing this hot babe known as the Lombardi Trophy. I
Speaker 1: got a couple of looks at one point in time,
Speaker 1: distant glances, no smiles. Yet I'm trying to get up
Speaker 1: close and personal to that babe. That's it. I gotta
Speaker 1: end it on that. I mean, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: and if you're watching the video show Lombard trope is
Speaker 1: pretty sexy. It is kind of a babe. But I
Speaker 1: will I will say, you have to be a near
Speaker 1: forty year old NFL player to be dropping hot babe.
Speaker 1: You would never hear that from a first or second
Speaker 1: year player. I will say this, you're running. That I
Speaker 1: had with this post is I wrote the quote. The
Speaker 1: quote is great, and there was really nothing else to say.
Speaker 1: I ran out of other content. I realized after offering
Speaker 1: to write this post that there was a sentence of
Speaker 1: two that I tacked on, and I thought, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure the world needed more than just the quote. What
Speaker 1: am I doing here? Just let it stand alone? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What are some other kind of outdated terms? Uh? Descriptors? Fox?
Speaker 1: Oh she's a real Fox? Yeah that's out. That's out. Um,
Speaker 1: bad news for Connie Fox. That that didn't carry over? Uh,
Speaker 1: Babraham Lincoln? Was that ever? Like a real that wasn't
Speaker 1: in my that wasn't in my Lexiconda was using babysaurus rex?
Speaker 1: Is that around it? I mean I did not call
Speaker 1: a person this necessarily about definitely not something that I
Speaker 1: had leaned on. I mean it's over, rot baby, I
Speaker 1: mean it's been over. It's he pulled it out of
Speaker 1: he pulled it from the grave. Let's put it back.
Speaker 1: Put it back, let it be. That's a beautiful woman.
Speaker 1: That feels kind of that feels also awkward. I don't
Speaker 1: know who you're telling this to you, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: you know I've talked with you outside of work. I
Speaker 1: know what terms you you like to use for people
Speaker 1: in general, people that you like or dislike. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, um Robert Kraft. Ah. Meanwhile, on the
Speaker 1: throne of vis New England Patriots won their fifth Super
Speaker 1: Bowl title in the Craft era uh back in February. Uh.
Speaker 1: And guess what what Craft says there is no more
Speaker 1: room for Super Bowl banners at Gilette Stadium. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta have some onions to come out
Speaker 1: and say this to to a public that could be
Speaker 1: filled with Jets and Browns fans. Onions. This via the
Speaker 1: Boston Herald. We had a problem. We had no more
Speaker 1: room uh to put banners, so we had to change
Speaker 1: the construction around. So we have a surprise for our facts. Oh,
Speaker 1: I am so excited did for this freaking surprise. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait until we get to see on the first
Speaker 1: game of the Year Thursday Night, about a month from now.
Speaker 1: I can't wait until the pregame show where uh your
Speaker 1: boy Bob Costas breathlessly describes how they built an entire
Speaker 1: new wing at Gillette Stadium to house the Super Bowl banners.
Speaker 1: You gotta have some onions. Well this gets this is
Speaker 1: I mean, as a Jets fan, Danny, for you, this
Speaker 1: is just another chapter in the absolute, you know inglorious
Speaker 1: scenario between your team and there's I will say this,
Speaker 1: how about women with grace, with dignity, Well, with doing
Speaker 1: your job. That's out the window. They's talk about do
Speaker 1: your job. This isn't part of the You can't see
Speaker 1: that this franchise has been through a trying off season.
Speaker 1: You suddenly realize that this sort of what ten by
Speaker 1: fifteen foot cloth banner, there's nowhere to put it. You
Speaker 1: can't see that that would cause some sort of turmoil
Speaker 1: inside the building. You're totally heartless. Again that trial that
Speaker 1: they're going through and that Belichick chant at the parade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your cadence is to be a little quicker than that bill.
Speaker 1: They don't have everything figured out. They think they have
Speaker 1: everything figured out. Even the drunken mass has had a
Speaker 1: hard time keeping up with that. Yeah, so all right,
Speaker 1: let's just move on because I'm very upset. Now. Uh,
Speaker 1: here's something I want to talk about. I think it's time.
Speaker 1: You know, we visited it last week. This is something
Speaker 1: to keep tabs on. Uh, it's time to check in
Speaker 1: on the Pressure Valve. Absolutely. I mean there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on with Brown's second year tight End Seth de Valve.
Speaker 1: The buzz continues to build as we delve deeper into camp.
Speaker 1: We're in the second week of Brown's camp and the
Speaker 1: promises there. That's why I want to examine it further
Speaker 1: in this week's edition of Oh I'm doing it again again.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take you through some documented set
Speaker 1: the Valve News July. Patrick Max of The Brown's official
Speaker 1: website tweets in quotes Hugh Jackson, praising second year tight
Speaker 1: end set the Valve, says he's stronger, big than last year.
Speaker 1: In quotes, he's hungry and younger because as well he is.
Speaker 1: J NFL Network Fantasy analyst Marcus Grant watches coaches film
Speaker 1: of second year tight End Seth devalves two highlights from
Speaker 1: last season and tells me in a private MySpace chat,
Speaker 1: Seth DeValve is as if Rob Gunkowski and Kelen Winslow
Speaker 1: had a baby and send it to be tutored in
Speaker 1: a distant land by Ozzie Newsome. You have private and
Speaker 1: MySpace chats with other dudes. In two thousand seventeen, Marcus
Speaker 1: and I do we go? We go deep on the fantasy.
Speaker 1: You know that's almost suspicious. I find it suspicious, but
Speaker 1: I'm I wanted to be honest. There's almost no Internet
Speaker 1: footprint for anybody on my space anymore, so I feel
Speaker 1: like that's where you would go where a Forredsick's team
Speaker 1: would not be able to dig it up? Would you
Speaker 1: rather than I create lies in my reporting? This is
Speaker 1: how we how we contact each other. August one, Veronica
Speaker 1: Lily from Veronica Lily Sports on the web dot Net
Speaker 1: tweets that Seth DeValve was leaving Brown's camp for his
Speaker 1: spartan Furniture List studio apartment and discovered a kitten hobbling
Speaker 1: in pain through a green meadow. DeValve ran to the
Speaker 1: kitty cat, picked up the tiny animal, and cradled it
Speaker 1: in his six ft three two d forty five pound frame,
Speaker 1: placing the baby animal back on the grass. Devalves showed
Speaker 1: no outward emotion as the kid. He bounced around at
Speaker 1: full speed, darting to and fro completely healed total gentle
Speaker 1: giant move right there. August two, following a fourteen catch
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty seven yard five touchdown performance in practice,
Speaker 1: second year tight end set de valve Tell's teammates he
Speaker 1: can't join them for a fish fry at Cody Kestle's
Speaker 1: apartment because he has somewhere to be. ABC News reporter
Speaker 1: Alexis Benz later files a story about a six ft three,
Speaker 1: two hundred forty five pound mystery man we're in a
Speaker 1: number eighty seven Browns jersey and being seen fleeing a
Speaker 1: Cayuga Heights warehouse and intense superhuman speeds. Cleveland police later
Speaker 1: entered the warehouse and discover a band of twenty two
Speaker 1: white collar criminals tied up and gagged on the floor
Speaker 1: of the building. Authorities later revealed that these white collar hoodlums,
Speaker 1: a band of greedy x C e O S and accountants,
Speaker 1: have been working on a plan to strip the United
Speaker 1: States of all flying creatures owls, eagles, hummingbirds, swallows. Robin
Speaker 1: seagulls everything, which would pave the way for insects to
Speaker 1: destroy all of America's crops, allowing these greedy whites to
Speaker 1: control the food trade and turn our nation into a
Speaker 1: gaggle of vapid zombies. When police found this horde of
Speaker 1: tied up white collar criminals, white collared, white collared whites,
Speaker 1: they discover a message spray painted on the floor of
Speaker 1: the warehouse which reads, please be kind to animals. That's
Speaker 1: all we have from Pressure Valve. One one more thing.
Speaker 1: The reporter from ABC what was her Alexi Spends from
Speaker 1: ABC News in Cleveland. You don't go reporting live that
Speaker 1: you know, there was an unidentified male. He's wearing a
Speaker 1: jersey with his name on it. Together. She does not operate, uh,
Speaker 1: solely in the sports world. I don't think she connected
Speaker 1: those dots. I've connected the dots for you. That was
Speaker 1: another edition of Pressure Valve. That was a good one. Mark.
Speaker 1: I'm just it's just it's what's out there. It's what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing, and I got a good feeling he might
Speaker 1: make the practice squad across my fingers for your team.
Speaker 1: The arrow is pointing up. Let's move on, all right,
Speaker 1: It's time for today's training camp Spotlight presented by New Era.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Mark, the New York Jets stop
Speaker 1: me if you heard this one before. They have quarterback problems. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like since about age twelve that's
Speaker 1: been the case for them. Age twelve age Well, where
Speaker 1: was that like nineteen sixty nine. I don't care, you
Speaker 1: can't ken O'Brien was a quarterback problem they've always had.
Speaker 1: Concluding ken O'Brien is not a not a potentially perfect solution. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: that nothing has changed. In fact, you know the story
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of ideas about scam for Sam
Speaker 1: and the idea that the Jets are tanking to to
Speaker 1: get the first overall pick, whoever that may be. We
Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna come out next year, blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah all that. So right now the Jets have
Speaker 1: to forgot who's gonna who's gonna be their quarterback? And
Speaker 1: this is what it's come down to. And this is
Speaker 1: how I see, Mark, you could jump in whenever you
Speaker 1: feel it's appropriate. Uh, I might just let you fill
Speaker 1: a buster for five minutes here. So Josh McCown, the
Speaker 1: thirty eight year old journeyman. You're you're very well aware
Speaker 1: of his abilities or lack thereof. Um, he is considered
Speaker 1: the favorite. But I really do feel and I feel
Speaker 1: like this speaks I speak for a lot of Jet
Speaker 1: fans out there too, that, uh, if Christian Hackenburg can
Speaker 1: play at all, if he can, if he shows the
Speaker 1: any progress in camp, um, you just put him in
Speaker 1: day one because you just gotta see what it is there.
Speaker 1: There's nothing with Josh McCown to get out of it now.
Speaker 1: I will say this to Mark. One voice I really
Speaker 1: respect in in the coverage of the Jets is rich
Speaker 1: Tomini who said that it is short sighted. He believes
Speaker 1: it's shortsighted to put uh a young quarterback in before
Speaker 1: he's ready. I don't care if you if you're a
Speaker 1: team that's rebuilding, if you don't put in a quarterback
Speaker 1: that knows what he's doing, uh, it's gonna mess up
Speaker 1: all the other progress of your young players. You try
Speaker 1: to try to understand what you have on your team.
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep going forward? Um? Do you
Speaker 1: think that is the better way to look at this?
Speaker 1: Which makes Josh McCown, assuming he's not a complete disaster
Speaker 1: and training camp the right guy right now for the Jets.
Speaker 1: Josh McCown has dominated first team reps in camp so far,
Speaker 1: which that can all change. But I don't think that
Speaker 1: you can go into meetings with your players and your
Speaker 1: fellow coaches if Hackenburg or Bryce Petty look very average,
Speaker 1: which is very possible, and say we're gonna start someone
Speaker 1: other than Josh McCown because you're you. I get, I
Speaker 1: get what the potential plan here by the front office
Speaker 1: is that you're gonna probably get that number one pick.
Speaker 1: Josh McCown is two and twenty over the past three seasons.
Speaker 1: He has played for the two thousand and four teen
Speaker 1: Bucks and the Browns on the past to two years,
Speaker 1: three of the worst teams we've seen in the last decade,
Speaker 1: and so here he is on maybe even the worst
Speaker 1: of that group. But you cannot simply roll out Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenburg in week one and try to sell that to
Speaker 1: your fans and your better and players as a solution. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a solution, but I think
Speaker 1: the Jets, even the Jets would be willing to admit, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're a little worried whether this Hackenburg thing is gonna
Speaker 1: be a total disaster second round pick last year. But
Speaker 1: I think like if and Hackenberg has shown progress. We've
Speaker 1: seen reports that that he's looked good, that he's gone
Speaker 1: through four practices without throwing an interception, which I know
Speaker 1: seems like nothing, and it is nothing mostly, But there's
Speaker 1: the same guy that he was being mocked for hitting
Speaker 1: reporters with Aaron Passes, who looked not even close to
Speaker 1: already in the preseason where he got last year. So
Speaker 1: it's better than the other way, where it's like Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenberg has looked like Blake Bortle's combined with Ryan malt.
Speaker 1: So my thing is as long as he if he
Speaker 1: shows enough that they don't feel like they are just
Speaker 1: giving themselves zero chance, just roll with it, because how
Speaker 1: much more how much more development are you gonna get
Speaker 1: for the younger guys with Josh McCown. Josh McCown is
Speaker 1: a limited passer. Here's the thing, and there are there
Speaker 1: are a handful of teams that have young quarterbacks, are
Speaker 1: not good football teams and are in the running for
Speaker 1: one of these big time college quarterbacks in the next
Speaker 1: year's draft. So I think for every one of those teams,
Speaker 1: you have to play your young quarterbacks. If the season
Speaker 1: doesn't get off to a good start, you have to
Speaker 1: see Christian Hackenburgh. You have to see if you're Cleveland
Speaker 1: de Shaun Kaiser before you decide to go draft someone
Speaker 1: at spot one, two or three in the draft. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of logic to play Hackenburg. I don't
Speaker 1: think Petty is part of that equation at all. I
Speaker 1: think he is very much in the reps. He's barely
Speaker 1: he's barely done the outside looking in here as he
Speaker 1: should be. He's kind of like a two three type quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it comes down to. It's it's uh,
Speaker 1: if you get if you get Hackenburg, just as long
Speaker 1: as you get him enough starts where you can make
Speaker 1: a real evaluation, what is that? What about the seconds,
Speaker 1: eight games, the second half of the year, something like that.
Speaker 1: And if if you really think he needs half a
Speaker 1: year to come in after sitting out last year, that
Speaker 1: tells me a lot too. So what the organization feels
Speaker 1: about Christian Hackenburg will a lot of that will be
Speaker 1: illustrated by how long it takes them to play him.
Speaker 1: Where are you on the peace scale When it comes
Speaker 1: to Josh McCown, who by the way Josh McCown has
Speaker 1: had a couple of games where he's been very competent,
Speaker 1: and he is. I do believe in Josh McCown, if
Speaker 1: you're at a better team around him, that he could
Speaker 1: win you five or six games if that happened with
Speaker 1: the Jets, if he gets them into a situation where
Speaker 1: instead of going oh and nine, like everyone predicts that
Speaker 1: they're three and six, and they get to four or
Speaker 1: five wins. I mean, what's your concern level that this
Speaker 1: whole plan is going to blow up in the face
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna be bad enough. You said, pea scale,
Speaker 1: pea scales ten because the Jets. No one's better than
Speaker 1: the Jets and messing up being bad but also not
Speaker 1: being bad bad enough to get a good pick. That's
Speaker 1: why Marcus Mariotte is not their quarterback right now. A
Speaker 1: couple of late meaningless wins a couple of years back.
Speaker 1: So yes, the peace scale level is high. Just another
Speaker 1: reason why not to have m account in there. The
Speaker 1: only thing you do is hurt you in the long term.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gonna be a wild season. I
Speaker 1: said it downstairs at the news room yesterday. This is
Speaker 1: the first time in my life as a Jet fan.
Speaker 1: I'm openly waiting for the season to be kind of over.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the next chapter, which is the draft
Speaker 1: next May, next April. I just want to get through
Speaker 1: this intact. Here's how I feel for your dad who
Speaker 1: just retired. He finally has time. Life is going to
Speaker 1: be fantastic. He has time to really sit down and
Speaker 1: dig in with the Jets, enjoy a football season without
Speaker 1: having to worry about what's coming on Monday with work.
Speaker 1: And he's gonna watch a Ripe disaster. They're gonna go
Speaker 1: to and fourteen and he's gonna watch every snap because
Speaker 1: he's that kind of fans. Yes he is. At least
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Speaker 1: team on the on the table here, let's move up next. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: technical difficulties that we're dealing with in this show. Mark.
Speaker 1: Not only is it just you and I, we're missing bodies.
Speaker 1: But original plan was to have uh connor or come
Speaker 1: in today do a little or you kidding me? Uh?
Speaker 1: He had something to get off his chest, and he
Speaker 1: really did. It's never good when he's not able to
Speaker 1: get things off his chest. In fact, when we tried
Speaker 1: to get the segment off the ground, we saw what
Speaker 1: kind of state he was in. And now he has
Speaker 1: to take that back into his household. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he may now have a second issue to get off
Speaker 1: his chest, which was the entire experience he just spent
Speaker 1: with the two of us. Yeah. Yeah, something tells me
Speaker 1: he's going to keep his podcasting exclusively to the Heat
Speaker 1: and Light podcast going forward. Well, he was not, He
Speaker 1: was not happy, but um, anyway, so we had the
Speaker 1: issue we're not gonna have Connor on. Also another issue
Speaker 1: we part of having Connor on, we're gonna get Patrick Kagogo,
Speaker 1: who is up on the second floor. Uh, he's working
Speaker 1: on the creative producer side. And we're gonna get the
Speaker 1: axe man in here. We call him the axe man,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what you call him. And now I
Speaker 1: will do yeah and um and have him way all
Speaker 1: away on his axe during or you kidding me? Uh,
Speaker 1: And and we're gonna still have him on because why
Speaker 1: why not. We gotta get Kagango in here. He's got
Speaker 1: his axe, he's got his amp. So let's welcome Patrick
Speaker 1: Kagango onto the round the NFL pokast. Hey, Patrick, give
Speaker 1: us a little bit of a riffage. Very nice, very nice?
Speaker 1: Can you put your headset on? Patrick? Uh? Kagogo And
Speaker 1: we had a little issue. Um, we wanted to ramp
Speaker 1: things up with Kagogo and or you kidding me? So
Speaker 1: not only yeah and not only that segment not happening,
Speaker 1: we also wanted to get Uh to really increase the
Speaker 1: Kagogo experience. Uh. So he said, Hey, let's get a
Speaker 1: fog machine in here for his riffage, and Uh and
Speaker 1: Sully and walk behind the glass doing their job. They said,
Speaker 1: let's let's workshop this thing. Let's let's make sure it works.
Speaker 1: So yesterday, uh, Tuesday, they brought the fog machine into
Speaker 1: the studio and fired it up. It fire is a
Speaker 1: good word because it set off the smoke alarms and
Speaker 1: it led to the evacuation of every employee at NFL Media.
Speaker 1: We're talking five people, could be a thousand. I have
Speaker 1: no idea during the busiest day potentially that we've had
Speaker 1: in like six or something. If you're watching the video show,
Speaker 1: we have audio. We have video footage taken by yours truly, truly,
Speaker 1: no triple source needed, boots on the ground. We have
Speaker 1: some photographs here and um so, no fog machine, no connor, no,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? But we still have Kagongo and
Speaker 1: uh hey, how about some more sweet riffage? Sure so, Patrick,
Speaker 1: just so you know we're trying. No, this is really entertaining,
Speaker 1: this is fun. Things happen. Did we interrupt your day
Speaker 1: when the fire alarm went off? For you? I would
Speaker 1: imagine you were busy when this when this occurred? No comment? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's what this podcast generates. No revenue essentially for
Speaker 1: the league. That probably costs them four and a half
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. So yeah, anyway, it was nice working
Speaker 1: with you guys. So here we go. Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do the mail bag instead with kagango. It doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. There's no connective tissue. You're getting more cogango though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we we have an axe man ready to shred.
Speaker 1: You got to use them. So at some point maybe
Speaker 1: this will be we could do this together, Mark, when
Speaker 1: it feels right for a shred. Uh, you know shred.
Speaker 1: You you and him work in symphony. I'm going to
Speaker 1: allow you to to point out you two are. You've
Speaker 1: got a thing going on, a mutual artistry. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to interrupt. I will answer the questions when
Speaker 1: I'm asked to pass the buck there, Mark, Okay, then
Speaker 1: let's get into it. We'll start and thank you to
Speaker 1: everyone that's said in questions. Uh, we'll start with the
Speaker 1: O'Neill factor. At the O'Neill factor wearing an unfortunate Boston
Speaker 1: Red Sox cap. What's more likely? Brady Brady wins seven rings?
Speaker 1: I assume he means Tom Brady. Uh, Aaron Rodgers wins
Speaker 1: four rings, Jamis Winston wins two rings or Trabiski mahomes
Speaker 1: Kaiser Watson win one. Oh. I kind of like this, Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's break it down. Brady's got five right now,
Speaker 1: he's turning forty tomorrow actually, but there is there is
Speaker 1: no ceiling on the roof or whatever m J said.
Speaker 1: So we don't know how much long you're gonna hanging on.
Speaker 1: The Patriots heavy favorites to get six this year. So
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Rogers has one still one, sitting on one,
Speaker 1: not getting any younger. That's that's aggressive. Winston wins two,
Speaker 1: It's hard to even begin to try to process that.
Speaker 1: We don't know really where his career is going, although
Speaker 1: it's off to a good start. And then Trabiscuit, mahomes
Speaker 1: Kaiser Watson just one out of the four of those names.
Speaker 1: What do you think so that not the bottom forsom?
Speaker 1: One of them needs to win one. Basically, yes, I
Speaker 1: am going to go with that because the concept of
Speaker 1: Brady winning two more, Winston winning two, or Rogers winning three,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get to multiple super Bowls. You could
Speaker 1: be Jamis Winston win one and never get back. Look
Speaker 1: at Cam Newton. We don't know what will happen with
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. I don't love this forsom. I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about them yet. One of them is a Brown's
Speaker 1: second round pick, So you're you're giving him like equal
Speaker 1: shot at the other three. I just think you're asking
Speaker 1: four people to do one thing more than one person
Speaker 1: to do thing multiple times. I think I that's a
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal type answer. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like if you were someone that drove to the
Speaker 1: desert and like to talk about things, uh, maybe hang
Speaker 1: out with Spice Rack for a night at the pool.
Speaker 1: Brady makes the most sense just because that team is
Speaker 1: historically dominant. People are talking nineteen and no, so he's
Speaker 1: only two away. Rogers needed to get a second one
Speaker 1: at some point, Winston, I don't know, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Brady. So guess what, Patrick Kaganga, The Patriots
Speaker 1: win yet again? A little throne of ease. All right,
Speaker 1: we do a little better than that? Oh sure, I
Speaker 1: mean we got you here? All right? Moving on? Here
Speaker 1: we go. This run from Neil Ricard. I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: I get the names wrong. It looks like he's drinking
Speaker 1: a tasty beverage rocking Ricard. If the Packers fail again
Speaker 1: in the playoffs or fall short of them, will we
Speaker 1: finally see the end of Teflon dom. That's defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: dom Caper's, Mike McCarthy and or GM Ted Thompson, Mark
Speaker 1: Well fall short could create changes. I I don't think
Speaker 1: you get rid of Mike McCarthy. I think dom Caper's
Speaker 1: is a candidate to retire after this season. And Ted Thompson,
Speaker 1: you know, he got a voice of confidence from from
Speaker 1: ownership this offseason. But they've got some talented younger guys
Speaker 1: in the front office that they could they could raise up.
Speaker 1: So why am I continuing to Well, I was assessing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. I think if you're Green Bay,
Speaker 1: they they're not an organization that kind of throws throws
Speaker 1: things in the blender very often. So you give him
Speaker 1: one more shot. He's Teflon dom for a reason. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's going nowhere. Ever, Mike McCarthy well loved that building. Uh,
Speaker 1: it seems like and Thompson is not going anywhere. In fact,
Speaker 1: I would think fail in the playoffs also, that could
Speaker 1: be losing in the Super Bowl, but I'm assuming it
Speaker 1: means another divisional loss or maybe they get to the
Speaker 1: conference title game. Whatever. But to answer the question, nobody's
Speaker 1: going anywhere, especially not Teflon. Don Patrick sounds like a
Speaker 1: Packers fan he was excited about that rift. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is the stupidest thing we've ever done. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: we are using all our resources to the maximum we've got.
Speaker 1: You know, we're missing people. We've added an excellent musician,
Speaker 1: a guitar man. Next tweet Ryan Dieter at the Deep
Speaker 1: sixty three? When can we expect the fantasy Extravaganza's Mark's
Speaker 1: favorite time of year, and it also is the time
Speaker 1: where we get to send Mark over to his fantasy
Speaker 1: corner where it's a very violent place, a lot of crime.
Speaker 1: Where's the crime rate right now? At Maybe we'll find
Speaker 1: out later this month, yea, and more research on that.
Speaker 1: It's heavy. Yeah, it's like it's very bad. It's Chicago. Yeah, En,
Speaker 1: let's do some let's read up on its um anyway,
Speaker 1: the answer to that is in three weeks. Next up
Speaker 1: matt Rose and at Maddie Rose. Mattie Rose has to
Speaker 1: say this will the Shield three pet with the current
Speaker 1: skipper or next summer Willie George Seafort jump in and
Speaker 1: take credit for the dynasty. Um, I'll take this one, Mark, Yes,
Speaker 1: I I am as you should. I hung up the
Speaker 1: cleats on the famous tweet. Now, um, if some if
Speaker 1: I did. If I don't come back and someone else
Speaker 1: steps in seaffort for Walsh style and wins the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I think a part of me will be very kind
Speaker 1: of bummed out. I miss out on that. So Kaganga
Speaker 1: play me the Blues. I got the retirement. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, you are coming back. I can feel it.
Speaker 1: I just I think it's time to step away. I
Speaker 1: think it's time. And at Falcon's underscore, Andy, which book
Speaker 1: or film has had the greatest impact on you? That's
Speaker 1: a good one, Marco. I'll throw with you on this.
Speaker 1: You know. I took a look at this one before,
Speaker 1: and it kid always rotates for me. I love the
Speaker 1: book of Fans Notes West and I love it. We
Speaker 1: both equally love it. I love the book on the Road.
Speaker 1: I love the film Thin Red Line. But I as
Speaker 1: a kid, I didn't even discover the nerd line until,
Speaker 1: like I was an adult. So there's many favorite movies
Speaker 1: and books in my life. Yeah, I would say the
Speaker 1: early works um of Chuck Klosterman definitely led to me
Speaker 1: going through a phase in the mid two thousands where
Speaker 1: I was unconsciously plagiarizing his writing style, which everyone goes
Speaker 1: through those phases. I think when you're writing, when you
Speaker 1: fall in love with the writer. Um uh More recently,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't and I can't really speak
Speaker 1: to it. There's a lot of music that I feel
Speaker 1: has had a huge impact in my life, But in
Speaker 1: terms of book or film, I don't. I don't don't
Speaker 1: really set up. I'll tell you one documentary, Sherman's March.
Speaker 1: Looking up on Netflix. It is insane. Netflix sounds an
Speaker 1: amazing library. Next up, Jeff Rhino at, Next up, Jeff
Speaker 1: Rhino at I g in l a fire. Okay, Brady
Speaker 1: and Belichick fall off this season hashtag slight regression and retire.
Speaker 1: Which coach slash QB combo has best chance to form
Speaker 1: the next dynasty? I kind of like this one. What
Speaker 1: do you got Mark, Hugh Jackson, Deshaun Kaiser sticking with
Speaker 1: that it's a bit. It is not a bit because
Speaker 1: the answer is Todd Bowles and Christian Hackenbud. I feel
Speaker 1: like Jeff Rhino did not get the analysis he was
Speaker 1: looking for there. I'll throw a real one out there.
Speaker 1: Let's go with uh, let's see, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go Marcus Mariota. I can't get behind uh,
Speaker 1: I can't get behind Malarkey. I'm sticking with my answer.
Speaker 1: I fully believe it. You do you honest? I fully
Speaker 1: believe it all right. Next up, I know you don't
Speaker 1: believe that Joe dirt at Papa Timber. Now that Legarret
Speaker 1: Blunt is a member of the Eagles, how do you
Speaker 1: think it will affect his starting spot on the Patriots?
Speaker 1: Love it? Ah? He will be starting for New England
Speaker 1: by Halloween. Clever but also insightful. Moving on. This one
Speaker 1: is from uh Pones? Is that right? Poems at Enrique Pones?
Speaker 1: A lot of ways you can take this one out
Speaker 1: of the four games in the UK this season, which
Speaker 1: will be the best slash worst matchup? Okay? Do you
Speaker 1: have the you have the schedule? Mark? I do? Okay.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go through the games one by one. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Baltimore Ravens first, Jacksonville Jaguars. I don't go with
Speaker 1: the app because give me a break on one of
Speaker 1: the being at home team. So it's basically you get
Speaker 1: to watch three to six Blake Worlds interceptions. Justin Tucker, Uh,
Speaker 1: just go and goat on the field. See see to
Speaker 1: see minus. I put that at number four out of
Speaker 1: the floor. Uh. The next one is Arizona Cardinals l
Speaker 1: A Rams little sauce a little bit. What do you
Speaker 1: think of little jet leg little? Yes, you're right about that.
Speaker 1: I like that one. I made that my second, my
Speaker 1: number two. Okay. I didn't want to go fully in
Speaker 1: order here. I mean, if the if the Rams are
Speaker 1: or saucy this year, if if McVeigh in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: if if McVeigh comes in there and he was impressive
Speaker 1: at the end of all or nothing, and Goth makes
Speaker 1: strides and that defense looks good. They lost easily, but
Speaker 1: the Aaron Donald will be back and the Cardinals bounce back.
Speaker 1: The Vision game, there is also a flip side where
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are in in uh gradual decline here and
Speaker 1: the Rams are still the Rams, and it's a bad game.
Speaker 1: You get like a ten nine score. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: though I haven't heard the other two games yet, but
Speaker 1: right now it's one interdivisional two. So alright, so you've
Speaker 1: got Saints Dolphins, Saints Dolphins to seven and nine teams
Speaker 1: squaring off. I mean, I I actually enjoyed watching the
Speaker 1: Dolphins for part of last season, the Saints or eternally
Speaker 1: on my radar. Yeah, the Dolphins. Was just cheap shot
Speaker 1: at the Dolphins. I enjoyed doing that, but could be
Speaker 1: a shootout, could get excited there, definitely could to potentially
Speaker 1: too bad defenses. I put that number three. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put that ahead of the last game. I think
Speaker 1: that's the number two game for me right now, or
Speaker 1: number one, because I haven't heard the last one. Well,
Speaker 1: the last one is the Vikings versus the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Dan all right, well, listen, locked in Loaded is my
Speaker 1: number one game. I like it. I like the idea that, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the Browns back bounce back season and
Speaker 1: the Vikings it's early enough in the season they might
Speaker 1: be really frisky early on. I'm we're talking to defensive slugfest,
Speaker 1: playoff implications or draft implications. Okay, one or the other.
Speaker 1: Moving on. Tristan Cuss Cuss, Hello, rights, does Mark drink rose?
Speaker 1: That's very I mean, that's just a straight up question
Speaker 1: for you. Mark. That feels insulting. Um. I will be
Speaker 1: honest though, if it were in there, if we're the
Speaker 1: last thing in the house and it were like midnight
Speaker 1: and We're Saturday night and I needed, you know, something
Speaker 1: to top off the evening with. I might, but I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I've ever had rose. There's no
Speaker 1: I'm not really. My boss drinks it eternally, NonStop. It's
Speaker 1: a Sunday drink. There you go. He drinks it at
Speaker 1: brunch your Sundays afternoon, not brunch Sunday afternoon. You're chilling.
Speaker 1: The weekend has been a little live. It's your rose guy.
Speaker 1: Down wind down, there you go. That's when I start
Speaker 1: with the vodka. So I you know, we're in different
Speaker 1: worlds here. But don't let a little advice to everyone.
Speaker 1: Don't let anyone ever booze shame you. If you like something,
Speaker 1: drink it. Everybody else f off. See Kaganga's loosening up
Speaker 1: now and I really like it. Chris Boulding at Sea Boulding,
Speaker 1: Which NFL player would you want to pick you up
Speaker 1: from the airport? Um, I'll start with this one. I
Speaker 1: think it would depend. Uh. Handsome Henks behind the glass,
Speaker 1: Hansome Henk, you want to jump on here, come on,
Speaker 1: come on through. I think is here and he's very
Speaker 1: he's a very powerful third floor entity. Now he's a
Speaker 1: genuine shadowy league figure at this point of his career,
Speaker 1: which is a compliment but also a friend friend, but
Speaker 1: that's could be fading as he gets more powerful. The
Speaker 1: only thing I've said it many times, the only thing
Speaker 1: standing between Henry uh and becoming the commissioner one day
Speaker 1: is his accent. Well, this sport allow an Englishman to
Speaker 1: actually be the ace of the league. I believe you
Speaker 1: would be a great commissioner. Can we get past stereotype?
Speaker 1: The final frontier for the NFL is international domination. So
Speaker 1: why not say We're going to throw you and Olive
Speaker 1: Branch rest of the world and have someone from outside
Speaker 1: the United States. Well, I don't think that's going to
Speaker 1: be acceptable. The big issue is is what you can
Speaker 1: hear right now my voice? Wait, but you have a
Speaker 1: really good American I wouldn't say really good and entertaining
Speaker 1: American accent Texan. Can we just hear? Yeah? And I
Speaker 1: can't imagine the commissioner. I'll give you the line. Ready,
Speaker 1: here we go? Um I am. I am excited and
Speaker 1: honored to be named as Roger Goodell's successor as the
Speaker 1: NFL Commissioner. I'm excited and honored to be the commissioner
Speaker 1: the NFL. Okay, so you're also from I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't think I could do that. I don't think
Speaker 1: we could keep that going for twenty years. Three press conferences,
Speaker 1: we have a couple more um uh mail bad questions,
Speaker 1: So I figured exciting. So this one was, which NFL
Speaker 1: player would you want to pick up from the airport? Um? Why?
Speaker 1: Just that's a better question, open ended. Why would I
Speaker 1: be picking a NFL player up from an apple? Would
Speaker 1: you want to would want to pick you up? To
Speaker 1: pick me up? Why would they be picking me? Well,
Speaker 1: I think we need to worry. Let's worry about the
Speaker 1: larger life logic of this and just sort of drill
Speaker 1: down and answer the question. Yeah, I think it would
Speaker 1: be if you want, if you want meat and potatoes,
Speaker 1: a long trip, I just want to get home. Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: he's just gonna he's not gonna be an entertaining conversationalist.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have ways set up. His phone will be charged,
Speaker 1: he'll pick you up, the car'll be clean, he'll take
Speaker 1: you home. If you want. Kind of a wild card,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Throw throw one out for me, mark
Speaker 1: a wild card for me. A lot of times, like
Speaker 1: you're flying home, your vacations over, you're feeling depressed. You
Speaker 1: always want to extend that vacation one more night. So
Speaker 1: I want Marcel Darius, who was nailed for essentially like
Speaker 1: drag racing a couple of years ago. He's gonna make
Speaker 1: it interesting. Los Angeles is gonna be ours like that.
Speaker 1: I live very close to the airport as well, so
Speaker 1: I don't with him. That would be literally over in
Speaker 1: a minute and a half. We'd be home. Well, if
Speaker 1: you to get home really quick, you get Sheldon Richardson
Speaker 1: just like that. Um, let's move on with the next question.
Speaker 1: This from Logan Newsome at Pick Up the Chisels. That's
Speaker 1: a good one. What are the chances of Dan getting
Speaker 1: behind a hashtag cancel the Warriors hashtag say basketball type movement.
Speaker 1: It's not, yeah, it's it's fair Logan, because of course
Speaker 1: that is. I'm really pushing hard to get the Patriots
Speaker 1: out of the NFL. UM. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, but the pay the Warriors are getting
Speaker 1: into that realm now and port Hank, who is ultimate
Speaker 1: fear when he goes on check, is that they will
Speaker 1: swerve to talk about the NBA. First time we've ever
Speaker 1: talked about the end of the day on the show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the same, it's the same situation. You want
Speaker 1: to have enough competitive balance where you don't go into
Speaker 1: a new season with a ninety percent chance knowledge of
Speaker 1: who's gonna win the Super Bowl. Uh so, yes, I
Speaker 1: would get behind that movement. But I'm also a sad
Speaker 1: Knicks fan, so I have no horse in the race either.
Speaker 1: It's not like an affects me on any level. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Frank. Shout out to Frank. He is the truth.
Speaker 1: Him and porzingis do it right. This guy's full of surprises.
Speaker 1: A much more vibrant campaign than I could get behind.
Speaker 1: Is canceled. The National Hockey League entirely remove it. Is
Speaker 1: it still going? Why? Why would you so many people
Speaker 1: love the sport? It is time? Well, this is my campaign.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying everyone else needs to get behind it.
Speaker 1: These are things that are annoying to me. Hockey would
Speaker 1: be one of them. Goodbye. You should know that in
Speaker 1: my ear, Wilkes said next tweet, as you were beginning
Speaker 1: to rebuttal there, so he's not really plugged in. I
Speaker 1: can't get behind it. Either next biggest reveal about hockey.
Speaker 1: By the way, I was watching some of the whatever,
Speaker 1: the Final that whatever they call it, and the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 1: There are only three quarters in a hockey game, period,
Speaker 1: so it couldn't be couldn't be right exactly. You haven't
Speaker 1: finished yet, boy, I'm with you. Any any detracting element
Speaker 1: that you can drum up, I will gets a bad
Speaker 1: bad job by hockey periods periods. Uh, Simon Dixon at
Speaker 1: ziggy zep I live in Australia and chose chose to
Speaker 1: support the Jets several years ago. Uh, what are your
Speaker 1: life's biggest regret. We'll start with you on that one
Speaker 1: mark that's dark. Um, your biggest regret, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I have a huge lingering regret, probably
Speaker 1: like when you're young, Like I was way too uh
Speaker 1: kind of like rigid in my thinking, and I think
Speaker 1: I would like if I could go back and be
Speaker 1: like twenty three for like two weeks, I would take
Speaker 1: every risk possible, ask every girl out, go to every
Speaker 1: single bar, go to multiple countries, like get lost in
Speaker 1: Ibiza for like fourteen days. I mean, I would just
Speaker 1: redo this carefully planned like section of my youth. Did
Speaker 1: it feel carefully planned at the time, No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I you don't know what in Arizona for
Speaker 1: There were elements I'm not saying. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how much, how much more, how many more risks
Speaker 1: you could have taken? Okay, there were some things that
Speaker 1: did happen. It wasn't non risk taking, but more I
Speaker 1: was definitely, um, it was definitely, really really bad with women, um,
Speaker 1: all through through high school into college and I, as
Speaker 1: I learned later on, is that you just have a
Speaker 1: little bit of confidence in yourself. Um. So similar to
Speaker 1: what you were saying, that's not my biggest Everyone who's
Speaker 1: young is like super beautiful, even if you don't think
Speaker 1: you are. When you're young, you are, so you gotta
Speaker 1: ride with it. I do like the idea of the
Speaker 1: people that are like absolutely no regrets, no regrets, shut up,
Speaker 1: fool uh any regrets? Patrick? Besides coming on our show tonight,
Speaker 1: I have no regrets. I'm in a good space. I
Speaker 1: just got engaged. So, Henry, we know you have young
Speaker 1: many I have a lot of regrets. I try not
Speaker 1: to look at them too too closely because it makes
Speaker 1: me sigh. How about a band any your homeland. Do
Speaker 1: you ever feel that everything? Yeah, I mean you know
Speaker 1: what we we the the thing that got me expelled
Speaker 1: from my homeland is probably the biggest regret when it
Speaker 1: wasn't really it wasn't really expelled. Can you play something
Speaker 1: kind of about regret. I don't regret doleful Vinny house
Speaker 1: plan our friend, uh Vinny, uh Dan, I missed the
Speaker 1: toaster if game. If the game is dead and will
Speaker 1: no longer be played and tucked away collecting dust, may
Speaker 1: I buy it? I love you? I write hits uh
Speaker 1: Vinny does right right hits um if you check check
Speaker 1: them out and look him up on Twitter. Um. I
Speaker 1: would like the toaster games that will come back. But
Speaker 1: it's all about uh West and whether he wants if
Speaker 1: he wants it. It's about with West wants if the
Speaker 1: fire is still in his belly, and it was, and
Speaker 1: that's not even it. That's not a I'm not insulting West.
Speaker 1: It was very clear and he would acknowledge it that
Speaker 1: he had lost that edge, that feeling that he wanted
Speaker 1: to compete. The second it comes back, I'd be all
Speaker 1: for it. The show potentially or that game show. I
Speaker 1: should say if that's what we want to call. It
Speaker 1: ran its course in West's mind at this stage, he'd
Speaker 1: have to he'd have to change. But it is our
Speaker 1: ark of the Covenant, the toaster itself. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: send it. We love you any but we're not gonna
Speaker 1: send it to anyone listener to possess it. It is unpossessed.
Speaker 1: As as a as a big fan of the podcast,
Speaker 1: I missed that. But I also admire the fact that
Speaker 1: you guys like great British sitcoms. You know, you knew
Speaker 1: when it was time to pull the plug. You know,
Speaker 1: let's let's move on and do something different. And you've
Speaker 1: evolved and you've gotten new bits shot at American Television
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah great, And uh finally, uh this
Speaker 1: one from a friend of the show, a frequent guest
Speaker 1: of the show, the great Lindsay Rhodes, who gave birth
Speaker 1: to a beautiful baby girl recently. She will be coming
Speaker 1: back soon. She has a question, how much do you
Speaker 1: guys missed me? A so much? Be even more than
Speaker 1: a cee. We're bringing the pot to your house up
Speaker 1: front of the season. You're not invited. Uh D all
Speaker 1: the above click that real what I'm going to e
Speaker 1: we're shorthanded today. We could have used Liz Lindsay in
Speaker 1: the studio. Stop slacking, get in here, get like the Lions,
Speaker 1: the Lions taking their time to start their training camp. Lindsay, alright,
Speaker 1: you have you have two kids. Now, nice maternity to leave.
Speaker 1: Let's get to work. Come on, we need you write.
Speaker 1: The season is about to stop. So we miss you.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? We miss you, Lindsay, but get
Speaker 1: back here, Shredditt Kagango, Thank you, Patrick Kagango. You did it.
Speaker 1: Just that sound American. Lindsay will be she's she's just
Speaker 1: awakened from a slumba. Well she's at this point she
Speaker 1: will have completely written us off. Patrick, thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us, Thank you for going with the audible there
Speaker 1: Henry stopping by. However short, it was great, Toe, we
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. H visit from a third floor figure Maybe
Speaker 1: gets all the way to the big chair. Probably not,
Speaker 1: probably probably not, but it's good. Keep working on it,
Speaker 1: Keep working on it. Maybe you could define the odds.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday with another show. Thank
Speaker 1: you to everyone to remember that you can check us
Speaker 1: out NFL dot com. Slash a t N video uh
Speaker 1: Tonight Wednesday, nine thirty eastern sixty Pacific UH. And you
Speaker 1: can watch this this bizarre show unfold on videos. So
Speaker 1: until hear from us again, this is Dan Hansons signing
Speaker 1: off four Handsome Hank, Quiet Storm, Kagongo, Wilk and Sully
Speaker 1: Behind the Glass plus show till Friday