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Speaker 1: Well, hi everybody, Welcome to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast. Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: You're back, thank god, because you know, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: think that I like the sound of my voice, but

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Speaker 1: trust me when I tell you, I prefer to share

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Speaker 1: how our listeners. They don't need me the whole time.

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Speaker 1: It's just too much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree to disagree, but you know what.

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Speaker 2: I had to go to Newport to visit our friends

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Speaker 2: at the International Tennis Hall of Fame, and I was

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Speaker 2: speaking at a conference and I got to hit on

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Speaker 2: the grass courts because, as you know, the only surface

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Speaker 2: I'm any good at is grass, which brings me to

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Speaker 2: an interesting question. Where are you and what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I am in London, just arrived this morning, so over

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Speaker 1: here for the grass courts, getting ready for those who

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Speaker 1: needs clay. I mean, honestly, but that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but apparently more than half of the Association

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Speaker 2: of Tennis Professionals and a good chunk of the WTA

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Speaker 2: because this has been absolute carnage. But before we get

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Speaker 2: into the French Open, which I have been watching religiously

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Speaker 2: as I'm sure you have too, and there are crazy results.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us.

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Speaker 2: Anything about what you're doing or is it just going

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Speaker 2: to be a keep it moving situation.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a keep it moving situation. So

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Speaker 1: but probably by the time this evening maybe you'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out. But I am in London, so I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for the Knicks to possibly win the NBA title and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then we're ready to go over here in the UK.

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Speaker 1: But caatelne, come on, I mean seriously, this French open,

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Speaker 1: as you said, it's been carnage. And we stood on

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Speaker 1: the women's side, but the men's has been absolute carnage.

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Speaker 1: Because I haven't even spoken to you about mister Janick

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Speaker 1: Sinner going out and wow, it's just you know what,

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Speaker 1: I know that in my heart, no, not in my heart,

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Speaker 1: in your heart. I know how much you're loving this.

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Speaker 1: You are loving this. I love it. I am so happy.

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Speaker 2: I let's just say to have said it because we

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Speaker 2: didn't talk last week, Yannick Center and you know, not

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Speaker 2: getting getting knocked out is probably by a good chunk

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Speaker 2: of the weather. In addition to you know, obviously his

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Speaker 2: tournament is a huge miss, as is Arthur feast and

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Speaker 2: and and however, chaos is amazing. We've enjoyed it for

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Speaker 2: so many years in the WTA, and to me, it's

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Speaker 2: such a good outcome because it means the tennis is unpredictable.

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Speaker 2: The tournament is wide open. After Novak Djokovic lost over

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Speaker 2: the weekend to Jofuonsika in what is one of the

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Speaker 2: great matches that Jolfonzika followed it up with another one

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Speaker 2: of the great matches, which we should talk about. There

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Speaker 2: is no longer a remaining man in the tournament who

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Speaker 2: has won a Slam before, so we will have a

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Speaker 2: first time Slam and I cannot remember remember the last

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Speaker 2: time we had a tournament like this where a new

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Speaker 2: Slam winner was guaranteed. So yeah, where do you want

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Speaker 2: to start?

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Speaker 1: I mean, your excitement level is palpable through the microphone,

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Speaker 1: And it is true. I think that the one suggestion

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Speaker 1: now is ken Ken Zverev. There is no excuses for

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Speaker 2: He'll think of some something tells me, well, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if the coaches, the balls, the wind, the court, and

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Speaker 2: you know what if he does his music.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, we'll be the first to say congratulations,

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Speaker 1: you know what, because well done. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of tennis to go. I have put out on because

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Speaker 1: as you know, I like to do this on the socials.

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Speaker 1: I've put out that I feel like Koboli is the

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Speaker 1: guy to meet beat in his half of the drawer.

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Speaker 1: He's the highest seed left and FAA up in that,

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Speaker 1: that there's a part of you that would just love

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Speaker 1: to see FAA get through to a final of the

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Speaker 1: French or a final of a major, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: much to play for. I was sad to see rub

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Speaker 1: Levlot lose. That was part of me that was like,

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Speaker 1: is this the time? Is this the time? I wrote

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Speaker 1: but he sadly went down yesterday. I mean, these guys

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Speaker 2: Great. What I really like about all the young guys

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Speaker 2: on for a long time who are backing it up. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Joel Fonseka, since he was a junior, has been talked about, touted,

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Speaker 2: and now he's coming off having one two massive five

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Speaker 2: tennis player Gusabo Quertin, who has won this tournament a

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Speaker 2: in the crowd. Obviously, Ah and the best hair in tennis,

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Speaker 2: My West hair in tennis. Although somebody speak on the

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Speaker 2: topic of Chua Funseeko, I've been trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: who he looks like, and on Twitter the comparison was

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Speaker 2: made to Susan Boyle.

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Speaker 1: That I see it in my mind's eye.

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Speaker 2: You can't unsee it, unsee it, which sorry to that man.

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Speaker 2: Because that's pretty brutal. But no, I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a backing up of things. Yeah, Coop Mainschrik

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Speaker 2: We've got Hodar, who like, I don't know that Verev

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Speaker 2: my frequent sparring partners in the group chat is one

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Speaker 2: of our investors named Jeremy, and Jereby's hilarious and fun

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Speaker 2: and delightful tennis fan, and he was like, bro, bro,

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Speaker 2: this final is going to be torched, Like who even

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Speaker 2: cares if it's not Center and Alcoraz and I was like, well, listen,

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think so many of the men's tournaments,

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Speaker 2: a real tennis fan, Jeremy and others, you look for

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Speaker 2: the matchups. You don't just watch the finals. You watch

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Speaker 2: all of these amazing matches, and some of the matchups

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Speaker 2: are going to be more compelling than others. You hope

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Speaker 2: it happens in a final, but it doesn't always. And

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Speaker 2: what I like about what I'm seeing from this draw

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Speaker 2: is matchup after matchup after matchup. There's just a ton

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Speaker 1: And hopefully it extends to the final. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine I think Kabali and someone like a

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Speaker 1: five sets. No one's going to be able to put

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Speaker 1: it away because it's the biggest career move they're ever

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Speaker 1: going to have to win a major title. Neither of

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Speaker 1: them have beendor final. Clearly is a lot to go.

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Speaker 1: He must have been so unwell to be a two

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you had said, listen, there might be

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Speaker 1: of events. When there's no chance he's losing this match,

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Speaker 1: I would have bet every single dollar I have that

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Speaker 1: can happen. And I did write about on my sub stack.

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Speaker 1: I said, he is an absolute no chance he's not

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Speaker 1: winning this tournament. The only thing that's going to stop

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Speaker 1: something to figure out what's going on there. The redhead

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Speaker 1: It's certainly something that he has to look at. But

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Speaker 1: besides that, we do have the potential. And I know

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Speaker 1: Jeremy's upset that he doesn't have a sort of an

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Speaker 1: alcoraz Cine final. But when you're talking about Fonseca, when

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Speaker 1: talking about a possibility of maybe even a Francis Tiafo,

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about players like Koboli, these players are

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Speaker 1: incredibly entertaining. And I know the ladies. I know the

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Speaker 1: ladies are very excited about the potential of Mateo Berrettini

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Speaker 2: Let me just say I watched one of the worst

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning, where Barrettini barely eked out a win. And

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Speaker 2: when I tell you this match neither of them should

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Speaker 2: playing Comensana from Argentina. By the end of these fits set,

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Speaker 2: both of them were hitting thirty mile an hour slice

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Speaker 2: four hands to each other. And I wanted to be like, nope,

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Speaker 2: you're both out. Sorry, nobody gets to advance. We're going

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Speaker 2: to go back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 1: It's you know what, And I also wrote about this,

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Speaker 1: it's whoever hits the lost bowl in the court, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And that's all the tennis is, so everyone out there,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be perfect. There's a book called

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Speaker 1: winning Ugly and there's certainly that's what Mattheo Barrettini did

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Speaker 1: the other day. He got it done, and you maybe

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Speaker 1: it loosens him up and he starts playing be again.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, oh he's match.

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Speaker 2: Now she he's playing one Manuel Serrendelo again, not the

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Speaker 2: Sirendlo that anybody was expecting, but the man who has

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Speaker 2: you know, into the around sixteen. Cerandol and Baratini both

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Speaker 2: that part of the draft feels very winnable. They'll they'll

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Speaker 2: play the winner of Tiafo and Arnaldi. So like, there's

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Speaker 2: not a bad there's.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of pathway, there's a lot of but

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Speaker 1: for everyone out there that's a little worried that they're

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Speaker 1: well that's probably a rarity forever anyway. But I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you that the continuation of these men's five setters will

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Speaker 1: as Jim Care so eloquently said yesterday, for the love

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Speaker 1: of God, please can we get essentially electronic line calling stats?

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Speaker 1: Why why do they keep fighting this?

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Speaker 2: Well, the last time we spoke about this was very recently,

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Speaker 2: and I pointed all of us to a very brilliant

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Speaker 2: article that was written on our website, recommag dot com.

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Speaker 2: Because the French are the French, and they do whatever

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Speaker 2: they want. That's why. That's the reason why it doesn't

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Speaker 2: make any sense. Everyone else on Clay has adopted electronic

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Speaker 2: line calling. I agree with you. I think if we

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Speaker 2: can have a system that's consistent, and we have all

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Speaker 2: agreed that it's the thing that we're going to believe in,

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Speaker 2: even if it's sometimes wrong, at least it's wrong in

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Speaker 2: the same ways consistently based on its calibration.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know other than the French will not listen.

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Speaker 2: They will do whatever they want. It's the same reason

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Speaker 2: they don't have any women who play at the night

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Speaker 2: session tonight accepted. It's a reason they nilatterally moved their

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Speaker 2: tournament to the October during the COVID year without consulting

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Speaker 2: any other Slam because they can do whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: They do whatever they want. They don't have to listen

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Speaker 2: to anyone and until we make them. And here's my

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Speaker 2: only response to this. And I've really tried to be

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Speaker 2: a lot less provocative through the years, Renee, and I

451
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Speaker 2: don't think I've succeeded, because my response to this is

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Speaker 2: God to take their Slam away.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're trying to take give it to the Italians,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to take it away, You're trying to take

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Speaker 1: Australia away. I mean, it's just making big moves here.

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Speaker 2: That's great, you know what, in a way, because it's

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Speaker 2: carrot and stick. You guys want to have a good tournament,

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Speaker 2: pay by the rules. You don't, We're going to give

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Speaker 2: your slam to the Italians. Yeah, faffo, y'all.

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Speaker 1: So not only as you know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: like running line calling, and everyone's like, it's not a

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Speaker 1: guarantee either. I'm like, but it's the same guarantee for

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Speaker 1: that's for the two players on the court instead of

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Speaker 1: some umpire a linesman seeing a ball. So many of

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Speaker 1: these linesmen make these choices in their brain that the

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Speaker 1: ball is going to be in or out based on

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Speaker 1: the trajectory of the ball. Believe me when I tell

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Speaker 1: you particularly, I saw it so many times with Sam

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Speaker 1: Stows's kickser, because her kickserver will look like to a

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Speaker 1: person that's not a tennis player, oh, that's going out.

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Speaker 1: That's going out. And then it would the pants would

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Speaker 1: drop off this thne and it would land on the

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Speaker 1: line and I'm like, way to the ball to bounce.

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Speaker 1: And now with all these players, the players have so

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Speaker 1: much top spin on the ball. The ball will drop

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Speaker 1: down so quickly. But in their eye they're seeing it

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Speaker 1: maybe it's going to go out, So they've already had

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Speaker 1: this predisposed thought process. It's looking like it's going to

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Speaker 1: go out, so they call it. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: or they call based on a player's reaction to the shot.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that happen over the years. You know, a

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Speaker 1: player might gesture and the line'sman will quickly throw their

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Speaker 1: arm out out. Yeah, it's just like, let's just take

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Speaker 1: the human error out of this and every player. And

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Speaker 1: we saw some arguments. We saw some arguments in Rome

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Speaker 1: and at various different tournaments that players thought that the

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Speaker 1: machine didn't call it correctly all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But the difference is machine's going to call it the

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Speaker 1: same way for both players and they're not going to

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Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote choke and some linesmen, even on

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Speaker 1: big occasions, will choke. And we saw that. Yeah today,

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Speaker 1: I mean set point. The difference between is set all

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Speaker 1: and two sets to love for Fonsaca was massive. Now,

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Speaker 1: I have to say I did see when I saw

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Speaker 1: that that call. Initially it did look like it hit

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Speaker 1: the line from it looked like Clay went off the line,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what threw a couple of people

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Speaker 1: that didn't sort of fight it. But then when the

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Speaker 1: call said it was out on the hawkeye, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that would just devastate me if I was rude. I

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Speaker 1: know we're going to somebody asked one of the questions

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Speaker 1: on the questions, we're going to ask about that. But Jesus,

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Speaker 1: I'm over it. I'm over it. If they don't employ

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Speaker 1: it next year, I think all the players should definitely

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Speaker 1: say we're not playing. That's the only way. The only

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Speaker 1: way is for the players to say we're not playing

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Speaker 1: unless you give us electron linic line calling. Period. That's it.

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Speaker 1: In friendships, we exactly, Okay. Another thing that's had a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a controversy is the tap at the

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Speaker 1: back of the court. We've seen plays follow past about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm just tell you about that's atrocious.

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Speaker 1: Back in my day, as I love to say, back

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Speaker 1: in my day, they weren't even the La Coste sign

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Speaker 1: behind the court. It wasn't even rubber, it was it

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Speaker 1: was actual metal. Okay, So you know many times I

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Speaker 1: kick that fucking thing. It's like, do you guys not

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Speaker 1: know how to just put it on the back of

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Speaker 1: the fence, Like, can lacost just find a spot on

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Speaker 1: the top on the actual back fence. Why do we

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Speaker 1: need to have it in front of linesmen? And that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they want the linesmen there.

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Speaker 1: They want to have the la cost gear. It's like

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Speaker 1: why Wimbledon sort of hung on for dear life as well,

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Speaker 1: because they wanted to have Ralph Lauren clothing on the court,

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Speaker 1: right because Ralph Lauren is a clothing sponsor of the

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Speaker 1: umpires and linesmen, and obviously Lacoste is the linesman and

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Speaker 1: women's sponsor of them, so they want to be able

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Speaker 1: to show the clothing. But it's like, I'm sorry, the

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Speaker 1: top needs to They need to like dig a hole

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Speaker 1: and put the top down, especially when we knew it

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Speaker 1: was one hundred degree weather, there was no rain in sight.

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Speaker 1: Just get the tops off the court.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Kittie Balter, Alexander blocks. It's atrocious and

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Speaker 2: I think the best way to deal with this is

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Speaker 2: I'm not particularly litigious person, but like a couple of

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Speaker 2: players sue the French Tennis Federation get guess what, they

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to fix it. This happened to

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Speaker 2: Eugenie Bouchard a couple of years ago when she was

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Speaker 2: playing at the US Open. She slipped in the massage

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Speaker 2: training room on what she says were oils and creams

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Speaker 2: left off by the physio. Hurt herself pretty severely. I

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Speaker 2: get lost a good chunk of her season and settled

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Speaker 2: out of court with the USTA same thing like you

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Speaker 2: get hurt and you missed part of your season. And

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Speaker 2: in some cases, remember David David Gafa, who this happened

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Speaker 2: to a couple of years ago, similarly tripped on an

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Speaker 2: obstacle in the back of the tennis court. Seems like

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Speaker 2: he probably tore some ligaments in his writ in his

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Speaker 2: ankle and lost probably certainly like some prime time in

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Speaker 2: his career, if not like some major, major momentum. So

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Speaker 2: for me just being in would be infuriating if I

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Speaker 2: were to get injured by the court on which I'm

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Speaker 2: supposed to do my living. I mean, essentially, it's like workers'

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Speaker 2: compensation and this is a workplace that is unsafe, and

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Speaker 2: like if I were the cost, I would be mortified

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Speaker 2: that our logo was on what is maiming these tennis players?

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely what else making very angry soon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's really about it. I mean, I think that's enough.

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Speaker 1: I think that's enough. As far as the French.

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Speaker 2: List in France, We're going to take your slam away

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Speaker 2: if you guys don't get it together.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're going to do well, electronic line calling

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Speaker 1: and figuring it out a way to hide that top.

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Speaker 1: And not only is that carp a pain in the

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Speaker 1: ass for like falling over it, but when it does rain,

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Speaker 1: you know what used to happen. The water would get

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Speaker 1: stuck on it and you'd be practicing the amount of

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Speaker 1: times I would have to bolt after a ball before

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Speaker 1: it landed in a puddle on those stupid tops because

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Speaker 1: the rain condensation sits on them. And even when it's

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Speaker 1: not raining and you water the court, the water gets

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Speaker 1: on the tap. So when the ball goes to the

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Speaker 1: back of the court book, it just sits on the tap,

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Speaker 1: goes into the water. So it's like a disaster all around.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of the taps, find a way to get

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Speaker 1: them hidden under the court, or figure something else out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. All right, everybody, we

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Speaker 1: are going to take a real quick break. We're going

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Speaker 1: to come back with your questions, because as always, you

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Speaker 1: come with some beauties and we really appreciate, so we'll

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Speaker 1: be back with those answers after the break. Should we

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Speaker 1: get to reader questions? Yeah, let's get to reader questions.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to read them.

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Speaker 2: Sure, go ahead, Caitlin, this is what I'm just going

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Speaker 2: to find them.

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Speaker 1: Last week I had to actually read them to myself.

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Speaker 1: Then I had to answer them, and it was just

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Speaker 1: just didn't flow as well. Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: The good news is everyone knows that you're literate, unlike

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Speaker 2: you know, wow, some little root former members of the

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Speaker 2: cast of Glee. Okay, this one comes from Neby. What

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Speaker 2: do you think of Queen's Club reporting the decision not

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Speaker 2: to grant the defending champion, Tatiana Maria a wildcarde.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's pretty bad. Unless you're like literally

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Speaker 1: waiting for some massive name to play singles and you're praying,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: Are they waiting for a massive name to no?

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Speaker 1: So you know, you know, I mean literally, unless it

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Speaker 1: was someone like Serena, there's no way and that is

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. So that that's just that's pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: I think you absolutely need to give your defending champion

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Speaker 1: a wild card, give her a go I.

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Speaker 2: Would say you give anybody who's won the tournament a wildcode, honestly, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's hard because it might be two

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Speaker 1: or three in the drawer or whatever. I mean you know,

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Speaker 1: Amanda inn and Asmova doesn't need once you made the

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Speaker 1: finals last year. But but yeah, I think it's pretty

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Speaker 1: poor that you don't give the defending champion somebody that

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Speaker 1: has recognition there that they know who won last year.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's pretty rough.

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Speaker 2: This is from Chola's Girl music Lover. What do you

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Speaker 2: know about zach Svaja looking like he's going to lose

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Speaker 2: to Koboli? But what a run at the French Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well he did lose, but what a fight even to

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Speaker 1: come back in the forth set and give it a

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Speaker 1: real shot. I think it's tremendous and what a wonderful

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Speaker 1: story it was when he lost, you know, sadly lost

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Speaker 1: his father last year and he had that tremendous win

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Speaker 1: in the previous match on his dad's birthday, so it

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's just a great story of

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Speaker 1: a kid that's worked his butt off from the lower

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Speaker 1: levels right through now to the pros and I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's a great story. And let's hope that you know,

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Speaker 1: this gives him a lot of confidence certainly going into

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Speaker 1: the grass courts, but also you know, maybe he can

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Speaker 1: make a really deep run possibly at the US Open.

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Speaker 1: Which would give him a little bit more name recognition,

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Speaker 1: which would be really nice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, kitty Cat that mays Viittycat viitty Cat fifty three.

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Speaker 2: Does it actually matter whether women play the night session

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Speaker 2: at Roland Garros or not? And if the Sabalanca Osaka

632
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Speaker 2: match was not a classic, will it be the last?

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Speaker 1: No, Because you know, there's been men's matches that have

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Speaker 1: been absolute right. I mean, okay, they've been three sets,

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Speaker 1: but they've been crap. They've been like six two, six,

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Speaker 1: one sixty two. So do you look back at that

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, that match was terrible or that

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Speaker 1: match was terrible. You don't go back and look at

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Speaker 1: the terrible men's matches. You just look at the one

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Speaker 1: women's match. So no, I think it's it's it's called

641
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Speaker 1: selling the tickets, and what's the match of the day,

642
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Speaker 1: the match of the day, and that's what it was

643
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Speaker 1: supposed to be. The match of the day is Osaka

644
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Speaker 1: and Sabalanca. I think it's going to go three sets,

645
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Speaker 1: and if it doesn't, it's still the match of the

646
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Speaker 1: day and it should be the you know four they've

647
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: both won, I believe, for majors each. I mean, they

648
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: deserve to be on that court at night, and yes,

649
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Speaker 1: I think the women deserve to have their slots at.

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Speaker 2: Night in time, I agree with you, and I also

651
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: think that, as you know, my thought about night matches

652
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: is that it is a sad and cynical ploy to

653
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: get to sessions for the price of about money. And

654
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: if you look at yesterday's draw for examples, Zverev went

655
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: through his match in about forty seconds and then Philip

656
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: Chatrier sat empty for six hours exactly, and it's a

657
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 2: bummer because those matches should be just stacked and stacked

658
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: and stacked. And also grounds pass holders should be allowed

659
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: to come in and fill out tickets when you know

660
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: some of the matches are empty. I have a lot

661
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: to say about all of this, and yes I agree

662
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Speaker 2: that it's about selling tickets, but you know, at the

663
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: end of the day, most of these tournaments at best

664
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Speaker 2: break even on ticket sales.

665
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Speaker 1: Where they really make money is on broadcast rights.

666
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Speaker 2: And nothing makes a broadcast look less compelling than when

667
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: you have an empty stadium watching a great match.

668
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Speaker 1: It's a real bummer. A great a great at even

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Speaker 1: Susan Longlan, which is a ticket court like after a

670
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Speaker 1: certain time, let the Republic into the top section. Even

671
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: yesterday there was a matchup finished at like eleven, I think,

672
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Speaker 1: and like rube Lev and Francis, and there was there

673
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: was tons of space up top. So I think after

674
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Speaker 1: a certain amount of time they should open it up

675
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Speaker 1: to groundsholders to get onto that court to watch matches.

676
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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous greed. Okay, Uh did you projected semi finalists

677
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: for Rolangaros? Should we just go ahead and call who

678
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: we think is going to make the semifinals? I mean

679
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: we we kind of touched on this obviously at the

680
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: top of the show, but that is a question. Uh,

681
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: maybe second question, So nebbe you get to this week

682
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: projected semi finalists? Uh? In the draw in the men's side,

683
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: we've got Cerrendilo, Berrettini, Tiafo or Naldige aliasim Tabilo. Caboli's

684
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: already through, so he gets uh, either Felix or Alejandro

685
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 2: on the bottom half men's six fund Seka Zverev, what

686
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Speaker 2: do you think?

687
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Speaker 1: Well, I think that Koboli will be in one semi five,

688
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: and I think that on the in the other semi

689
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: final we might see a mister Sarundelo. And I think

690
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Speaker 1: that in the bottom half of the draw. I think

691
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Speaker 1: we're going to see Fonseca and Zverev okay, even though

692
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Speaker 1: I'd love to see Rafa and on the women's side,

693
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Speaker 1: I think the women's side, I think that it's depended

694
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Speaker 1: on who wins tonight with Naomi and Sabolenka. If Sablenka wins,

695
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Speaker 1: I see Sablenka and Kalinskaya, and I see Switelina and Cristeia.

696
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I think is going to be mirror. I think she can.

697
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: I think she can be now listen, that's not a guarantee.

698
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: The women's is a lot more. They're all difficult to pick.

699
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: This tournament has been such a pick them with so

700
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: many different random wins. I think Andreva is so mentally

701
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: up and down, and Christaea is just like, I'm just

702
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: having fun out here. This is great. She has a

703
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: hitting ability, she can hit anyone off the court. She

704
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: has nothing to lose. I mean, I hate the saying

705
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. I think she has a lot to

706
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: lose if you know she potentially can win this match,

707
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Speaker 1: But I don't know Andreva, we'll see. I would like

708
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: to see Andreva win in a lot of ways because

709
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: I think If Andreva wins, I think she makes the

710
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: final because I think she has this mental edge over

711
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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians. They just get so pissed when they play

712
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: against her because she's Russian and it's just like you

713
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: bring in that Russian Ukrainian situation and it's not gad.

714
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot more on the line with

715
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: the women's on that bottom half of the drawers. I

716
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the tournament was unbelievable with

717
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Speaker 1: the amount of players that had. It's got the Rome champions,

718
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: got the Madrid Champions, got Andreva, who's had a great

719
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Speaker 1: season so far, so and Corse who's played some great

720
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Speaker 1: tennis this year. So I don't know, we'll see.

721
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Speaker 2: Blue Color Tennis says you've mentioned before that players need

722
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: to hire more female coaches. I agree, and so do

723
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Speaker 2: I Blue Color Tennis, Kanchiita Martinez, Patricia Turabini, Sandra Ziniuska,

724
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Speaker 2: I'll have had success. What other female coach which is

725
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: that aren't currently employed would make good additions to a

726
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: player's team. Well, one famous women's coach I'm talking to

727
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: because she's a woman and we can ask her. And

728
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: then also, you know, like, let's not forget Amalie Marasmo

729
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: who joined the coaching staff of Andy Murray there for

730
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: a while. Who else and what else would you like

731
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Speaker 2: to see?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, look, I've said this forever,

733
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Speaker 1: there needs to be more women coaching. Nicole Pratt another

734
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Speaker 1: Australian who has had a plethora of Ossie players that

735
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: she's done such a great job with, you know, getting

736
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Speaker 1: them inside the top one hundred, getting them inside the

737
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Speaker 1: top fifty. I mean, she was coaching Kimberly Beryl who

738
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Speaker 1: beat Jessica Bagoula in the first round. She's had an

739
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: amazing you know, a bunch of women. Daria Gavrilova or

740
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Saville is a player that she's worked with for number

741
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: of years. So there's so many women coaches out there

742
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: that don't get enough attention. But I think that there

743
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: needs to be more. I think, you know, one of

744
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: the things that Sanders had yesterday in her interview with

745
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: T and T was she said, look, you know, I

746
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: think that she would love to see more women coaching,

747
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: and also she feels like they understand the players better,

748
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: they understand their emotions differently. I'm able to sit with

749
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Speaker 1: a female tennis player and kind of get why they

750
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: feel the way they do or when they get upset,

751
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: or I'm able to talk to them a little bit differently.

752
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm able to understand them and empathize with them differently

753
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: to what guys. Guys go, what do you mean you're

754
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: upset about that? Whereas women sort of kind of get

755
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: each other. And so I think that there certainly needs

756
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: to be more women players. You and I've talked about this, Caitlin.

757
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the last job I had as a coach

758
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: technically was Serena Williams at the US Open. And I've

759
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: had one call from an agent. And the problem is

760
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: a lot of these coaches have agents themselves, so they

761
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: just get ciphered around to other players who are under

762
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: their same management company. So it's a ridiculous. I mean,

763
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: look at whim, for said he what is he working

764
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: with Vickybocco. Now, like it's like this guy has gone

765
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: from one to the other, to the other to other,

766
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: and often it's like, yes, he's good results with them.

767
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Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, can I speak just now

768
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: that we're on the subject of female coaches and wymphaset,

769
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: it brings up some coaching news. I'm not sure how

770
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Speaker 2: newsworthy this is. But it was in one of these

771
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: newsletters that I get this morning that Francisco Roig, who

772
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Speaker 2: obviously was part of Nadel's team at some point and

773
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Speaker 2: has now been coaching IgA, will not continue on after

774
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: the grass court season. I think that that was always planned,

775
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure that's a new thing, you know, obviously,

776
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: but the news coming after she went out to a

777
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: very capable and very streak, having Martacostia, but still not

778
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: having the season that Igo Shiantek wants. What is she

779
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: going to do about the fact that she hasn't I

780
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: don't know. Is Daria going to be part of her

781
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: team forever?

782
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: And is that good? I don't know. I don't know

783
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: what's happening there. What I do know is watching her play,

784
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: she looks so lost on the tennis court. They've you know,

785
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: done this iteration or changed to her service motion again.

786
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Her service changed through the years with different coaches, and

787
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Speaker 1: I've said it for years that that is for me,

788
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest issues that she has is

789
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: her serf. I think that she doesn't get enough out

790
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: of it. She's like five good, five ten, five eleven,

791
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: and she's strong, like she is strong. When you put

792
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: your hands on her shoulders, she's strong. So I think

793
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: that the serve is a problem. It was a problem

794
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: against cost Costure took every second serve and just smashed it.

795
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: On clay. She's gone away from that, you know, variation

796
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: on the kick serve, she's not setting up aforehand well.

797
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: I feel like she goes for shots that are just

798
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: not on. I feel like she just has sort of

799
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: lost her way, like lost her understanding of how to

800
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: play points. And you know, sometimes when that happens, I

801
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: always tell players go back and watch your best matches.

802
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: Just go back and watch them, see what you were doing,

803
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: see what you're capable of doing. And for me, that's

804
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: what I would do with her. I'd be like, Okay,

805
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: where were you comfortable? What were you doing here that

806
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: made you comfortable? Look at this serve. Look. I mean, yes,

807
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: and everybody gets better, people learn how to play you.

808
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: I get all of that, but boy, she just looks lost.

809
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: She looked like disinterested. In the second set. She was

810
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: losing her serve constantly, and that should not be the

811
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Speaker 1: case on clay for someone like Eager Shontech, who four

812
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: time champion at the French Open. Come on, like, this

813
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: is a player that I felt like, I honestly thought

814
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: she could win ten French opens with her game. But

815
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: now I don't know anymore. She's lost her way. So

816
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: what's she going to do going forward? Who knows. We'll see,

817
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: We'll wait and see. It's all a very big question

818
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: that only she can answer in the end.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now I will take us out on this one, Yeah,

820
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: because I think it's a good one. And obviously you

821
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: can see how much you want to say Snoogle Silky

822
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: create Twitter names Snoogle Silky. I think, I hope I'm

823
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: pronouncing that correctly. Sounds like what I would say to

824
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: make cat Jeff suddenly he would call a cat Jeff. Though,

825
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: let's just be honest.

826
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Speaker 1: He's a Jeff. I don't know.

827
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Speaker 2: You just look at that face and you think that's

828
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Speaker 2: a Jeff. Yeah. It's pretty funny when we get calls

829
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Speaker 2: from the vet saying, is Jeff Newman ready for his

830
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: annual checkup? Like, wait, here's Jeff Newman again? Oh right,

831
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Speaker 2: our cat. Snoogo Silke asks what's your reaction to the

832
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: grass court season comeback of Serena williams ha ha do

833
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: you think she can add to her tallies. What is

834
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: her end game here? I think her end game, Snoogle Silky,

835
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: is to play some more tennis. This lady loves tennis,

836
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: and if there's one thing she wants more of, it's tennis.

837
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it is sort of a question

838
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: like when these comebacks happen, what motivates them?

839
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Speaker 1: What you know?

840
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Speaker 2: I don't want to put you on the spot here

841
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: because something tells me you probably have some insight into

842
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: this situation. But more generally, more broadly, what do you

843
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: think you know? What can you share from what you've seen,

844
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: and what are your assumptions about what we're about to see.

845
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Speaker 1: Well, I can honestly tell you I have not asked

846
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: her the question of why, and I think the question

847
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: of why will be very much asked in the press

848
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: conferences or the first interview that she does with the press.

849
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Speaker 1: So as far as her why, I don't know. I

850
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: think that you know you already touched upon it, right,

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Speaker 1: She's very motivated by the love of tennis. She's very

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Speaker 1: motivated evaded by enjoying her tennis, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: being relatively injury free all of the things. And as

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I can't answer her why because

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Speaker 1: I haven't asked her the why. She's the only one

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Speaker 1: that can answer that why. And I believe that the

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Speaker 1: question of why Serena will be asked ad nauseam over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. But my belief is that,

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Speaker 1: as you already touched upon, she loves playing tennis, and

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Speaker 1: why not the answer to that, I guess, yeah, anything

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Speaker 1: that I can, honestly, I can on it. I'm being

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Speaker 1: really honest with you. It's not a question I bosket

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Speaker 1: and she can is the only one that can answer

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Speaker 1: that question.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, that is as bad as good as

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Speaker 2: an answer as I guess we're gonna get. And also

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Speaker 2: we'll be able to see presumably what happens here in

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Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks as we shift into a

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Speaker 2: glorious part of the year, which is you know, grass

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Speaker 2: court Tennissee's and probably your favorite surface to play on

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Speaker 2: it certainly is mine. We any parting thoughts, I'm just

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Speaker 2: really excited for all the great tennis that is still

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Speaker 2: to come in this French Open. This French Open, I

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Speaker 2: was really down on I was like, this sucks. All

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Speaker 2: my people are not playing. Who even cares, which is,

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Speaker 2: you know, unusual for me, but I still stand by it.

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Speaker 1: I was really sounds very much unlike you. How was

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Speaker 1: she really bummed?

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Speaker 2: You know, I was bummed about al Chras, but I

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Speaker 2: was really bummed about Arthur Feast for whatever reason. That

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Speaker 2: really just like twisted the knife a little bit and

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Speaker 2: then loan Old. Look, we have all these amazing, interesting

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Speaker 2: things that are happening, and obviously the drama on and

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Speaker 2: half court is pretty you know, profound. So I'm just

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Speaker 2: really excited because I just whenever I turn my TV on,

886
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Speaker 2: there's always something interesting happening, and that's not always the case,

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Speaker 2: especially on the men's side.

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Speaker 1: This last couple of years, Yeah, I think the men's

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Speaker 1: tournament has turned into what the women's tournament is. Every

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Speaker 1: single major, it feels like there's a lot of question

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Speaker 1: marks for a lot of players going into the grass season,

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Speaker 1: like Cocoa Golf, like Egishyon Tech, you know, Rebekina. The

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Speaker 1: one thing for them is that they're going to have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time practicing on grass. They're going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot more used to that surface. So look

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Speaker 1: for Pagoula and Rebackina to be very much in the

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Speaker 1: latter parts of Wimbledon. That's my thought process. They're going

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Speaker 1: to have a lot more time on the surface. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be not as sort of mentally fried as

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Speaker 1: the players that are going to go deep in the

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Speaker 1: French Open. Although the French Open, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: go deep at the French you're certainly going to be

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Speaker 1: confident going into the next couple of tournaments. But getting

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Speaker 1: that extra week or two on grass is certainly going

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Speaker 1: to be a big one. Or the likes of Pagoula

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Speaker 1: and Rebuccina, who were going to be two of the

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Speaker 1: favorites at Wimbledon. But man, I'm so excited because we're

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Speaker 1: going to have a new champion on the men's side,

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Speaker 1: no Sinner, no Alcaraz and no Rafa Nadale. But on

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Speaker 1: the women's it's sort of up in the eras as always,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of questions to be answered this second

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Speaker 1: week of the franch we'll get into it more and

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Speaker 1: I'll have a lot more to tell you next week

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Speaker 1: as well, Caitlin. But as far as this week's concerned,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like who knew, who knew? NW who knew?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: On that note, enjoy London.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see other stuff that comes out of it,

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Speaker 2: and let's catch up very soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, thanks mate, thanks for joining us this week. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. O wa bye whoa