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Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot IL, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hannah Loves How is everybody doing? Welcome, Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: j dot IL the podcast. You already know. I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: here with the lovely age of Graydon Danzla. That's Bob

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Speaker 2: and the exquisite Lia Saint.

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Speaker 3: Clair video cheeriold Jady, old good folks. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that we'll find out. That's how they speak at them.

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Speaker 2: What's the cheerio about it? Sit you home?

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Speaker 3: No, the cheerio is because we have a woman king

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Speaker 3: in the building, my friend. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, boys

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Speaker 3: and girls, listen. You may see her on your TVs

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Speaker 3: as a character on Bob Park's Aba Shola Honey. She

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Speaker 3: is the co creighth more of Bob Parts Aba Shola.

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Speaker 3: She is literally the woman king of comedy of Great Britain.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 3: Y'all think I'm joking, but no, I'm talking about Gina YASCHERI.

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Speaker 4: We can talk about all that.

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Speaker 3: We are in a safe space of black red famous

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Speaker 3: and I am here for all of it.

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Speaker 4: Not to forget that she's also the daughter of loyalty.

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Speaker 5: I'm from where the Bronxes came from. I am royalty.

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Speaker 2: Let's give it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thank you guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be something because that energy is just wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean, shoots through whoever is listening, whoever's looking. Have

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Speaker 2: you always been this way?

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Speaker 5: Yes, my mother said in the womb, So when my

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Speaker 5: mom was pregnant with me and I was born after twins,

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Speaker 5: but so she says, she had a bit more room

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Speaker 5: in there, and she had a bunch of student doctors

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Speaker 5: walk in the room and they were saying, this is

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Speaker 5: a pregnant woman, she's eight months and blah blah blah,

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Speaker 5: and she goes to doctors couldn't find me because I

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Speaker 5: was off during the space, having a good old time,

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Speaker 5: and the doctors couldn't find me.

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Speaker 6: So she was like, from that.

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Speaker 5: Moment, I knew when you came out you were going

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Speaker 5: to be crazy.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and it's like, but the thing about

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Speaker 1: it is that you know, when like you were telling

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Speaker 1: us about you and about doing comedy, you know, I

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I hate this whole

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Speaker 1: idea that women as comedians, that we don't get the

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Speaker 1: energy that we should get and that you know, we

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Speaker 1: have to try so hard to get this, to get

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Speaker 1: the label of being funny, and it's just like, it

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Speaker 1: just drives me nuts. And I'm just like, man, the

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Speaker 1: fact that you're the queen of comedy and that you're

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Speaker 1: ushering in such a you know, an underserved group of

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Speaker 1: black women. Bravo and Bravo and Bravo's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean comedy wise, Yeah, it's been hard in

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Speaker 5: this industry. And I've always been like, listen, I'm as

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Speaker 5: funny as any of you. Of you dudes, you know,

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Speaker 5: all that rubbish about women women funny. I hate that

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Speaker 5: interview question because I'm like, it's not that women are funny,

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Speaker 5: it's there's less of us, and.

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Speaker 6: So we get judged a lot more harshly.

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Speaker 5: There's a million medio carassmen out there, millions I don't

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Speaker 5: get just because there's so many, you know, And that's

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Speaker 5: the difference.

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Speaker 3: Now, Gina, can you see I remember you had you

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Speaker 3: came back with a book a year ago about your life.

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Speaker 4: And the beginning of your story.

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Speaker 3: I just want you to share, please share with Jill

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Speaker 3: or Asia the beginnings.

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Speaker 4: Of the story of your father and your mother and

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Speaker 4: all the other women.

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Speaker 5: First, so as I said, my family from Ben in

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Speaker 5: where the bronzes came from my grandmother. I'm actually a

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Speaker 5: reincarnation of my grandmother. So Nigerians believe strongly in reincarnation.

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Speaker 5: And my grandmother was one of many wives of a chief,

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Speaker 5: so she was the second wife. There were many more wives,

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Speaker 5: but she was kind of the favored wife and the

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Speaker 5: otherwise were very jealous of her.

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Speaker 6: She had a lot of kids.

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Speaker 5: But she used to say to me, my mother all

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Speaker 5: the time when she was a child, when I come back,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be British.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to speak with a British accent.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to I'm not going to have all of

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Speaker 5: these children when I come back, I'm going to have

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Speaker 5: I'm going to live a free life. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: do a man's job. I'm going to do whatever they

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Speaker 5: strong as them. And she named all these things that

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Speaker 5: she wanted to do. Now she ended up dying. She

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Speaker 6: It's a whole the whole story. That's the first chapter

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Speaker 6: of my book. So she ended up being but when

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Speaker 6: she died of poisoning, she died with a mark on

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Speaker 6: her throat. And I was born.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen years later, and when I came out the womb,

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Speaker 5: I had this birthmark. And so as soon as I

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Speaker 5: She was like, oh my gosh, my mother has returned.

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Speaker 5: And the whole family rejoiced because they were like, my

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Speaker 5: the family is Granny because my mom calls me Granny

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Speaker 5: because on my own grandmother. And basically I basically turned

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Speaker 5: out exactly as my grandmother said she was going to be.

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Speaker 6: She was like, I'm not gonna have all these kid children.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to live a free life. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: To do all the jobs because I used to be

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Speaker 5: an engineer. Before I did comedy, I was an engineer.

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Speaker 5: I built and repaired elevators. So everything that my grandmother

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Speaker 5: said came to pass. I became that person this years

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Speaker 5: and every time I've gone to a psychic or somebody spiritual,

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Speaker 5: every time they always say the same thing. There's a

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Speaker 5: woman guiding you through this life. There's a woman related

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Speaker 5: to you who is following you and guiding your every move.

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Speaker 5: So that's part of the story. And then obviously both

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Speaker 5: my parents and I Jane Thombinin they met, they had

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Speaker 5: me in England with all my brothers and sisters, and

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Speaker 5: then obviously in England in the early sixties very racist.

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Speaker 5: My father was a qualified lawyer, my mother was a

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Speaker 5: head head teacher, a school principle. They came over here

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Speaker 5: as very high achieving people, but in England they were like, oh,

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Speaker 5: can work in a post office and you can drive

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Speaker 5: a bus. And my father was I'm not driving a bus.

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Speaker 5: I'm a lawyer, and let's take our children and go

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Speaker 5: back to Nigeria. And my mother was like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: my children are British. I want them to have all

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Speaker 5: the opportunities that be in British affords them. I'm staying

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Speaker 5: own career. And my dad was like, oh, okay then

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Speaker 5: and then he went back to Nigeria and that was

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Speaker 5: the end of that. I never saw him again until

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Speaker 5: I was thirty eight. So basically, if you watch the

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Speaker 5: show Bob Hart Savage Shara, that Abashalla story is based

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Speaker 5: on my parents' story where she ends up in America

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Speaker 5: with her child, raising her child as a single mother,

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Speaker 5: and her husband has gone back to Nigeria to be

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Speaker 5: an architect because he was like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: be in America doing not doing what I'm qualified to do.

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Speaker 6: So that's the story of me.

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Speaker 7: Wow, this woman interesting from the beginning, Yes, from the

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Speaker 7: very beginning there.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's like all the things, y'all, all the things.

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Speaker 1: That's an amazing origin story.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's the first chatter of My book is

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Speaker 5: called Candid. It's a memoir. It's literally just come out

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Speaker 5: on paperback recently in England. It's out in America on paperback.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I wrote a book and it's a crazy

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Speaker 5: story I've had. I've had a life. I've had a life.

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Speaker 3: And you talk about the things that like a lot

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Speaker 3: of black Brooks. I don't know, it just seems I

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Speaker 3: think we had this conversation before too, like we feel

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Speaker 3: like sometimes things are quiet, and like you said, what

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Speaker 3: do you call it racism?

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Speaker 2: Subtle?

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Speaker 5: Subtle racism? Subtle, it ain't passive, it's just subtle. It's

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Speaker 5: death by a thousand cuts. Racism well, you don't even

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Speaker 5: know that, you just got to discriminate against. They're so

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Speaker 5: clever about it. And you know, I do a routine

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Speaker 6: The British racism.

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Speaker 5: The Brits were the architects of racism, the architects savory

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Speaker 5: the European the way that they just hid it from

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Speaker 5: high society. Whereas do I say that Americans did the

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Speaker 5: equivalent of you know, breaking into someone's house and keeping

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Speaker 5: the stolen goods.

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Speaker 6: In their own house.

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Speaker 5: It was in America on plantations in America for every

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Speaker 6: It was in your face. Whereas the Brits did it differently.

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Speaker 5: They stole the same amount of black people from Africa,

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Speaker 5: but they put them on plantations in the Caribbean, mostly

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Speaker 5: majority of their filthy deeds were done. So if you

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Speaker 5: went to England and the eighteen hundreds and went, oh,

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Speaker 5: in a minute, you stole black people, they'd be like,

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Speaker 5: but where.

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Speaker 6: Where is the evidence? I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: So they did the equivalent of breaking into someone's house

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Speaker 5: So when you come to them, there's no evidence of

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Speaker 5: what they've done, so, but it's no less heinous, you know.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's been a lot of discussion amongst you know,

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Speaker 5: know characters, you know, they haven't had the experiences, you know,

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Speaker 5: they haven't suffered the levels of racism that we have.

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Speaker 6: But that is not the case.

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Speaker 5: We've had very black people in the UK and descendants

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Speaker 5: of slaves in the UK and in Europe, France, Germany,

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Speaker 5: Belgium have had very similar experiences. It's just that it's

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Speaker 5: not being publicized. The British and the French and the

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Speaker 2: I think mostly too, that they can't necessarily pinpoint your

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Speaker 2: anger or your quote unquote crazy. Yeah, you know, the

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Speaker 2: argument has always been there, you know, about English actors,

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Speaker 2: and my point of view is that the training is.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, the training is kind of it's not kind of

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Speaker 2: it's next level. Okay, not that not to disregard our

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Speaker 2: Juilliard grads or n y U grads or or Cornell

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Speaker 2: just saying that's a that's a lot of schools, and

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of really powerful work. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: that also, there's a combination of those things that one

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Speaker 2: can't pinpoint. You're crazy, you know, can't pinpoint where your

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Speaker 2: rage comes from, not necessarily because you're We have plantations

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Speaker 2: here in this place, huh, and we could go visit

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Speaker 2: them and feel the vibes, you know, at least are

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Speaker 2: the same for you. I suppose that you're questioners are

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Speaker 2: on our money and our streets and our schools.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean we've got you know, during the

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Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter marches, a lot of statues of slave

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Speaker 5: owners were being ripped down all over English that was

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Speaker 5: still very much there and being revered by the people.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, we have the similar age. And with the actors.

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Speaker 2: like super intelligent. Would it have to be right? Because

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00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: you have to come from you know, I have to

439
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: have a real perspective, a ground perspective in what it

440
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: is that you're talking about in a vocabulary vocabulary tour,

441
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: and also the imagination to tell the story so that

442
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 2: everybody in your audience can see. But now you got

443
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: your own TV show? Did you create it? So you know,

444
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 2: people are getting an opportunity to see your vision and

445
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 2: hear your comedy all the time.

446
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 3: That means and see what's Africans in a different way

447
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 3: to stand an authentic way from a West African woman's

448
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: like boys.

449
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 5: You know, I was a vited to help Chuck Glory

450
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 5: create this show. And I was like, well, if you

451
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 5: want my help, here's the thing. If I say that,

452
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 5: I wouldna, people don't do this. We don't do this

453
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 5: and it's okay in the show. Yeah, you have to

454
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 5: listen to me and and I have to be involved

455
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 5: in the constant. I know that you have your Hollywood

456
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 5: beauty ideals, but here's the thing. The actor who's going

457
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: to play every show is going to be a dark

458
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: skinned woman. No no, if no butts, it's going to

459
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 5: be a dark skinned woman, preferably Nigerian. But whoever comes

460
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 5: for the audition, if they got it, they got it

461
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Speaker 5: with it, you know.

462
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 6: And so I made sure I was.

463
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 5: Always in the room when these black actors came in.

464
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 5: So when they came in, they'd see me sitting there,

465
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 5: and their shoulders would just relax immediately because they know

466
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: they're not going to be asked to do any kind

467
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 5: of buffoonery because there's a black woman sitting in the

468
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: room who has some power.

469
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Speaker 9: You know.

470
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Speaker 5: A lot of the actors afterwards would come out to

471
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Speaker 5: me and go When we walked into the room and

472
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 5: we saw you there, Gina, that's when we knew this

473
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 5: show was legit.

474
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Speaker 6: You know.

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like a lot of black women

476
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: writers need to understand what it is they have in

477
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: front of them, if there's this is the trajectory that

478
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: they want to go on, and just the difficulty around

479
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: telling these stories because this has been the conversation, Oh,

480
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: our stories need to be told. Oh, our stories need

481
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: to be told, you know, But once you get into

482
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: their space to be able to tell them, you know,

483
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: to say, these are the things you need to be saying.

484
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Speaker 1: I want to be a part of the casting. I

485
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: want to be you know, I want to be able

486
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: to have the last word about these cultural references, like

487
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: any other things, like with black writers, black women writers

488
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: that are listening that they need to that they need

489
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: to put their foot down about I mean, is there yeah, yeah, I.

490
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Speaker 5: Mean it's always difficult because it's spent such a hard

491
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Speaker 5: road for black writers, especially black women writers, getting into

492
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 5: those rooms, and they usually kept at a level, you know,

493
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 5: they'd hire them a staff rights, which is kind of

494
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 5: the lowest level of writer, and then they let them go.

495
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 5: They'd never got the chance to ascend through the ranks.

496
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 5: So it's always difficult to have a voice when you're

497
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 5: at the lower end of the ranks and knowing that

498
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 5: if you speak up in a way that you know,

499
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 5: the white exec producer may feel threatened by you being

500
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: a little bit too outspoken.

501
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 6: And we're a little too smart and they don't like it.

502
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 5: Then you know that you're not going to have a

503
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 5: job the next season, So I understand the difficulty For me.

504
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 5: In a way, it worked out in a way that

505
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: when I came in, I came in as a co creator.

506
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: I immediately came in as a creator of the show.

507
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: They were asking me to help them create the show.

508
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: And because of that, I felt I had the power

509
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: to speak and I was able to say, this is

510
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 5: what's going to happen, whereas not many.

511
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 6: Of us have had that opportunity.

512
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so now I'm trying to make sure that

513
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 5: I pull that door open and provide more opportunities for

514
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: other people. So I've got you know, I've got other

515
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: black women writers in the room. I was like, you know,

516
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 5: I said to them, you guys found me, you know,

517
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: but there are plenty of mes out there.

518
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did your room look like?

519
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: Janis curious African American writers male and female, my black,

520
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 5: young black Nigerian writer.

521
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 6: What I did?

522
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: I didn't want to scare these workmen, So I just went,

523
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: I'm doing a comedy show. Why don't you come and

524
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 5: see me doing my comedy show? And then I called

525
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 5: my friends to a comedians, I was like, come on

526
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 5: the show and open for me. I didn't tell them

527
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 5: what was about. I didn't want them to be nervous,

528
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: so I said, come, I'm doing this show, I'm headlining,

529
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 5: Come and open for me. They came and open for me.

530
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: And then this is how one of writers, Gloria, got

531
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 5: on the show. A friend of mine stand up comment

532
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 5: Gloria Pingler, so I got her to open for me.

533
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: And then afterwards two of the exec producers who worked

534
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 5: with Chuck were like, we like that woman, Glory, and

535
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 5: I was like, you did because she writes too.

536
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: You know what I see now why you were lie

537
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: you get along? No, because you think very similarly. Your

538
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: ideas around putting people in the right places, connecting people

539
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: who you feel should be connected, who are bringing something

540
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: into the world like this is like like a grand

541
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: orchestrator of synergy, you.

542
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

543
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: Like uh, and I think that that's an amazing thing

544
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: to pull into what you do. It's one thing to

545
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: open up a door, but it's another thing to help

546
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: to understand how people will be connected to others. It's like, yeah,

547
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: let me let you tell let me let her tell

548
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: her story in front of you, so that I don't

549
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: have to sell it as, Hey, I'm a black person here.

550
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: I want to get other black people in here. You know,

551
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: I just think that that's amazing, you know what I mean,

552
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: even though you shouldn't have to.

553
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: But literally, that's why I wanted her to come on

554
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: this show because I was like, I need Gina. Gena's

555
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: already has no fear, but I need her in a

556
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: super safe black woman's space. I want her in a

557
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: super staf Black women's space. And I wanted y'all to

558
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: build his energy and be able to have these hard

559
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: conversations sometimes, you know, even from the acting conversation to

560
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 3: these continental you know, versus Black American conversations.

561
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: I need Gina. He has no fears. He literally is

562
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: the woman's been.

563
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 6: Around a long time. I've been around a long time.

564
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 5: And it took a lot longer for me to make

565
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: it because I've always known my wife and I've never

566
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: you know, I just never compromised, and it took me

567
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: a lot longer than At one point, I was like,

568
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: I'm not even sure it's going to happen for me,

569
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 5: but at least, you know, I don't feel like I've

570
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: sold my soul in order to do it.

571
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: And.

572
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 5: When it did eventually happen, I was like, great, now

573
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: I want to help other people.

574
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 6: You know.

575
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: Chut Lolly was because I was pitching shows featuring my

576
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: African family for years and nobody wanted it. Nobody wanted

577
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 5: but it took a wealthy, white, well known man in

578
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 5: the industry to go, I.

579
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 6: Want to make a show with Africans.

580
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: And then suddenly everybody was like, oh my god, that's

581
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: a great idea.

582
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 6: Let's make a show with Africans.

583
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 5: And I've been pitching this as an African for years

584
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: and nobody was interested. But I was like, I'm going

585
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 5: to get bitter about that. You know, I'm going to

586
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 5: take that opportunity and then I'm going to turn around

587
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 5: and try and be that wealthy, well known white person

588
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 5: man for other black artists. So I'm trying to get

589
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: as many of us in and get as many of

590
00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 5: us working in.

591
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 6: You see, it's possible, you know.

592
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to do with other people, for other

593
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 5: people what I wish that someone had been there to

594
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: do for me.

595
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?

596
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: For you? Yes, it's interesting that that's the exact same

597
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: way the Number One Ladies Detective Agency happened that it

598
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: was a white writer and it was a white director,

599
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Italian authentically not from the United States at all, living

600
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: in England. That was like, Yeah, I want to do

601
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: this story about these beautiful people with these these generous

602
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: hearts and these intelligent spirits. I want to find out

603
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: about these people. I want to create a story. It's like,

604
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: you need that to get the damn door open. No

605
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: matter how many times you pitched, and it seems like

606
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: you pitched a lot, well.

607
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: Oh, I pitched a lot, and I'm a performer. I

608
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: come pitch in a room. I'd have these executives laughing

609
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: and going, oh my god, this is so great, and

610
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: then I'd walk out in the room and they'd be like, oh,

611
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: it's like that. I've always been ahead of my time,

612
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: is my problem. I've always been slightly ahead of my time,

613
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: and I picked stuff and go people go, oh, we

614
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 5: don't know what to do. And then five years later

615
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: I'd see my ideas being done with somebody else and

616
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, I putched that shit five years ago. So

617
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: it was always happening to me. So it got to

618
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: a point about five years ago when I was like,

619
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 5: you know what I might be one of those people

620
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: that after I'm dead, they'll go look at my work

621
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: and go, oh my god.

622
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: She was brilliant. Why didn't we?

623
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know, maybe I'll be one

624
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: of those people. Maybe I just have to settle for that,

625
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: because I'm always slightly.

626
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 6: Ahead of my time.

627
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 5: And then Chuck came along and gave me the opportunity

628
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 5: and I just grabbed it, and I was like, I'm

629
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: going to run with this. You know, this might be

630
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 5: the only TV show I ever get because you know,

631
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: as it is for black women, we do well for

632
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: one show and then they go thanks for that sea

633
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 5: and then it doesn't become and it doesn't lead on

634
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: to anything else.

635
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 6: But I'm hoping it does.

636
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: I'm hoping to, you know, get some sort of overall

637
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 5: deal where I can then call my friends and go,

638
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: bring this scripts. I've got the soveral deal. Let's bring

639
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 5: the scripts. Let's bring your projects. I'll exact produce your projects.

640
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 5: Let's get all our stories told. That is what I'm

641
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 5: trying to do. That's my next part of the journey.

642
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: I think hopefully, let's get rhymes.

643
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at this woman, the highest pain writer of

644
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: a producer in in all of television. Yeah, yep, like

645
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: there are the doors are are beautifully gently opening, and

646
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta stick a foot in crack at the

647
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: time or titty, you gotta get in there.

648
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna toe and I'm gonna I'm gonna towe and

649
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 5: I don't think I can get the whole foot, but

650
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: the toe is in there.

651
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 6: The toe is in there.

652
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 8: We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be

653
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 8: right back.

654
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I've noticed is that

655
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: just in general, like black brit culture, I see so

656
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: much more on like social media. I don't know if

657
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: it's maybe some mixture of the popularity with like afrobeats

658
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: and then some of the artists coming from from you know,

659
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: from Britain, but then also even like people who are

660
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: like they're like a lot of the hip hop dancing actors,

661
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: but from that lens, not where it's like, oh I

662
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: gotta take away my accent or pretend to be American

663
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I feel like we're in the

664
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: middle of a bit of a renaissance with that right

665
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: now period. Is that like is the presence of that

666
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: do you feel like that's making things a little easier

667
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: for you or are you more so like, look, I've

668
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: been on I'm just happy y'all caught up.

669
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I came to America in two thousand

670
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 5: and seven, so then sixteen sixteen years or something, and

671
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: when I came out here, people didn't understand, you know,

672
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: they didn't understand. And then Indriks and then all these

673
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: British hads start blumbing up, and then there are black

674
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 5: people in England. We thought it was just you, you know. So,

675
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 5: and I think with the way the industry is changing,

676
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 5: streaming the Internet, people making their own content, it's open

677
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: the world up in a way that was never open before.

678
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 5: And so now there's a cross pollination of cultures.

679
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

680
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 5: And so now you know, I can go into a

681
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: meeting and go, you know, and talk about my book

682
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 5: and go, yeah, I want to make that a serialized thing,

683
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: and I want it to be like a gritty version

684
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: of Everybody Hates Chris Everybody hates Chris Cross with MICHAELA.

685
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: Coel's I May Destroy You, you know, that kind of Chris.

686
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: You know.

687
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: So whereby I've got a young actor playing myself as

688
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 5: a youngster going for all these things, and I'm doing

689
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: the voice of a bit. It's a bit more gritty

690
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: where I'm going. Yeah, and this is the moment when

691
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: I decided to punch the bitch in.

692
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 6: The throat, you know.

693
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: So it makes it a little bit so and I

694
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 5: can have those meetings and people are getting it now

695
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 5: because because they've seen these other shows and the way

696
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 5: that boy is so huge over here, which is a

697
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 5: very British, very British show. The language is don't bridge like, yeah, man,

698
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: what you're saying, bro?

699
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 6: You know?

700
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 5: And Americans, my children, my children, literally, I'm like, y'all

701
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: in this black Bridge link y'all, y'all, not y'all from

702
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 5: West Philly.

703
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Come down Like literally, my daughter says bro so much,

704
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: I'll be cracking up. It's just likely always saying men,

705
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: men's afroget she demands the demands them.

706
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 6: And that's the thing.

707
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 5: And so because this whole thing is happening, Yeah, now

708
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: I can be in meetings and talk about my Britishness

709
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: without them get her. I don't know, we don't understand

710
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 5: because now they've seen the shows and they've seen how

711
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 5: these shows are doing very well hit yeah, you know,

712
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 5: And so yeah, it's definitely opened a lot more doors.

713
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: It's a game recognizers game as a culture recognizers culture thing,

714
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: and it makes me happy because, to be honest, it's

715
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: like we feed off of one another, you know what

716
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the fashion, the music, the dancing, and to

717
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: see it, to get to see it is everything because

718
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: so much of that again ties us all back to

719
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: the continent, and it's like it is the Pan African

720
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: vision that so many of our fore mothers and fathers

721
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: wanted to see happen. But the fact that it's happening

722
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: through art, culture and technology is also the opposite of

723
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: what some of these dinos think that we shouldn't be doing.

724
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: But this revolution is happening on an artistic level because

725
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: of these things. It's because of that. So you know,

726
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: you hear it's unfortunate. You're going to hear some nasty

727
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: comments from one person or this person, and it upsets you, like, well,

728
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: why would that person have a platform and then say

729
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: something foul? You know, there was you know, there have

730
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: been some you know, black content creators, some actresses, actress

731
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: singer types who have said things that are just not cool.

732
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: If we're gonna all feel each other and feed off

733
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: each other, but the vast majority. What I've seen, especially

734
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: with these young people, is that.

735
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 6: They are on it.

736
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: What's saying.

737
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, I don't want to know.

738
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's but we But I'm just saying, like

739
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: most people will figure it out anyway.

740
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 6: Just what they said, Just what they said.

741
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not going to say what they said.

742
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: I'm not going to even put up.

743
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: What I am going to say is this, I do think,

744
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: and we talked about this earlier in the podcast. It's

745
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: a result of hurt. It's a result of life experience

746
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: and not being accepted by other black people who are

747
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: black just like you, whose descendants are from the same

748
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: continent as you, that will come out of their mouth

749
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: and say things and treat you in a certain way.

750
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: And the clap back is from pain. It's from an

751
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: exchange of pain.

752
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't even know which side you're talking about attacked

753
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: first on that one both ways.

754
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I'm not going to say who

755
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: it was. I'm gonna say that the activities are happening

756
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: between us, and that these young people, as they always do,

757
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: they come out and they bust everything out of the

758
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: water and they make it okay. They say, look y'all, but.

759
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: For our generation, we still got some work to do.

760
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: And I feel like sometimes that comes from conversation because remember,

761
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: we still come from a place where sometimes people would

762
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: think that others from the other time, from other places

763
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: would look at us as being lazy, right, you know

764
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: what I think it's.

765
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 6: Also a part of the conditioning.

766
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: You know, when I my family came to to England,

767
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 5: the Caribbean people have been fed all these Tarzan movies

768
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 5: of black people being primitive in Africa and running around

769
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: and cooking white people in parts. So they thought that

770
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: we were cannibals, that we were primitive, that we were animalistic,

771
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 5: that we were violent. And then on the other hand,

772
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 5: Africans have been fed these images of African Americans has

773
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 5: been lazy and not working hard and hate, you know,

774
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 5: And so we've been on fed these mistruths about each other.

775
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: That's so crazy.

776
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: Divide and concotect me.

777
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: It's ain't been using the same technique for hundreds.

778
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 6: Of hundreds of years.

779
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Still works, same playbook, it still.

780
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: Works, it works well. So the whole time, while Jeffrey

781
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: Dahmer just child down.

782
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Girl in Town on back down on freaking checks, but yeah,

783
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: I just wish we could place gives him back to him.

784
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 6: This is the privilege.

785
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: That's why I said, I just wish we could all

786
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: just take a class trip to the Black sony in

787
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: and just stay in the basement for a minute.

788
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 4: That's just all see abasement and just just get the knowledge.

789
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying this.

790
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. You know, I actually always hate

791
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: this question just because I know that your life is

792
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: your influence. But you know, I can't and forgive me

793
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: and this might be this is crazy, but I can't

794
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: pinpoint in my mind and not saying that that's specifically

795
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: who would influence you, but like I can't pinpoint in

796
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: my mind a black woman British comedian that I could think,

797
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that person must have influenced She.

798
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 6: Is Gina, She's the First's why she's the woman.

799
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. So I need to understand,

800
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: like who are your influences? You know what I mean?

801
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: And I hate that question, but it's I'm curious.

802
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: I mean, there were black women comedians who came before me.

803
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 5: I'm the first one that kind of crossed over. Was like,

804
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna perform to whoever. I'm not going to

805
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: change a thing about myself because it was very segregated

806
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: in English as it is it when I came to Americans,

807
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 5: like it's the urban comedy right then, and I was like,

808
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 5: comedy's comedy.

809
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 6: If you're funny, you should need to make anybody like Yes.

810
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 5: When I go in front of my people, my black audience,

811
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: then I have specific things that I talk about are

812
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 5: shared experience, right, and I will touch on that and

813
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: I liked it. But I also come but I'll tell

814
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: white people about this and you don't know this, but

815
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: this is you know. So I've never changed a lot

816
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 5: about myself. So but there are there other black woman.

817
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 5: There's a comedian called Angela mar who was going before

818
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: when I started. But funnily enough, because I never saw

819
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 5: comedy as a career. Yeah, I was an engineer and

820
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: I fell into comedy by accident. And then when I

821
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: started doing comedy, I didn't want to go back and

822
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 5: watch too much comedy because I didn't want.

823
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 6: I didn't want to be influenced.

824
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: You know, because you watch some comedians in your Yeah,

825
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 5: I see you watched a lot of it prior because

826
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 5: I could see, oh, I can see my Lawrence was

827
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: your favorite comedian because I see you.

828
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 6: I didn't want that.

829
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 5: So I didn't watch a lot of comedy because I

830
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: was like, I want to keep what is quintessentially Gina.

831
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 5: I don't want anybody to watch me and go, oh, yeah,

832
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 5: she she watched a lot of Whoopy Goldberger, or she

833
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: loves a bit of wonder Side she can see.

834
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 6: So I never watched The Lost.

835
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 5: I didn't have influences as such because I tried to

836
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 5: be very myself and being my own life. So I've

837
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: not watched a lot of comedy. Like you know, some

838
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: comedians have an encyclopedic knowledge of comedy.

839
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah I do not, so so the Netlix special Quintessentially Gina,

840
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm just the one. I just want to throw that

841
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: on that. Now take that, take that.

842
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 6: Thank you. I love listen.

843
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: There's times when I speak for for all of us.

844
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: Since you get it. I hope everybody that's listening you

845
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: feel in big rated. I hope that you you want

846
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: to find out about yourself, like your the history of yourself,

847
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: of your focuses. I hope you pay attention to your

848
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: ancestors that are guiding and moving through you right now,

849
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: right in this moment, because it's real, baby, It's real.

850
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: It's not a game, okay. And the fact of this woman.

851
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 6: Gina, you you don't play around as fair.

852
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: You said, I'm going to do I'm going to do

853
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: everything that I want to do, and I'm going to

854
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: do it boldly and quintessentially myself.

855
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 6: Brah.

856
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: Vote okay, and you're.

857
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 3: Gonna add the gay black woman too much?

858
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 6: Much?

859
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Were much more success?

860
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 6: Are you?

861
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel joyful?

862
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 6: You know what I do? I mean joy life.

863
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 5: I've had to learn because I'm super competitive and I'm

864
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: always you know, I had to learn to feel the

865
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 5: joy and enjoy my experience of what I'm doing in

866
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: life and not I had to learn to put blinkers

867
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: on and just look forward and go enjoy what you did.

868
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 5: Don't look out for people and go but what they

869
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 5: got that I'm glad of. That I should have because

870
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time doing that because I

871
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 5: was very competitive. And the day that I stopped doing that.

872
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: And just when Gina, you're doing something for living that

873
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 5: you love doing, you're living your best life. Stop worrying

874
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: about what this person's gone. Why having you got it?

875
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Speaker 5: When you're better. Just enjoy your own journey. And the

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Speaker 5: moment I started doing that, I feel like the universe

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Speaker 5: cracked open and more abundance came to me. So every

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00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 5: once in a while, I find myself doing it. You know,

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00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: you can't help it. In the days of social media,

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Speaker 5: you on Instagram, game but they're doing well, well I

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00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 5: should And then I have to stop myself and go, Gina,

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Speaker 5: you're doing great right now. You're living your best life.

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Speaker 5: Ten years ago you would have dreamed to have what

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Speaker 5: you have now.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy it.

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Speaker 5: So I have to remind myself every once in a while,

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Speaker 5: but I really do. I'm enjoying life right now.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Nobody knows. Tomorrow is not promising.

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00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: Nobody knows, and how long you've got left tomorrow I

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00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: might not wake up, but I'm going to enjoy every

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Speaker 5: moment up until that point.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 6: I love this.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how to say Helen's last

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Speaker 2: name quite frankly, I was probably Williams at this time,

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Speaker 2: but Pharrell Williams his wife from Helen. I saw her

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Speaker 2: recently and it was it was a beautiful moment. Just

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00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: we were in Paris on a on a balcony looking

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00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: out over Paris. It was just like fly and she

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00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: said this, She said, our grass is green as fuck.

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00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, attention to your

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00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: own grass.

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Speaker 1: Baby, because because that.

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Speaker 2: Shade of green is unlike you know, anybody else's. Don't

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00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: even worry about what shade of green there's is. Our

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00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: grass is green as fuck. For having me today, it

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Speaker 2: has been a privilege, for real, for real.

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Speaker 6: So proud of you.

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00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I want to.

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Speaker 5: I tried to get tickets for you at the boat

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00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 5: that ships so that so quick. So when you come

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Speaker 5: to l A, just drop me a little text before

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Speaker 5: you release the announcements so I could get in there quick.

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Speaker 5: Just give me a little Textlet just let.

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Speaker 2: Me know you want to come. You're more than welcome.

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Speaker 6: Listen, don't say I'm saying it.

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Speaker 5: Don't say don't just if if she.

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Speaker 3: Says, you mean it, and then I can sneak in

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Speaker 3: on your coatails because I live at l A too.

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Speaker 6: So no, we're gonna listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any comp tickets anymore. They don't exist,

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Speaker 2: so I have.

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Speaker 6: I have no interesting comp I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Tell you, but there was not, no none.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I was your stuff gone nothing. I don't need comps.

927
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 5: Just tell me, just give me a little heads up,

928
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: just say they're gonna be yourself tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: He's a little sneaky link.

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00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 5: That's all I want. I like to pay and support

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Speaker 5: my family.

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Speaker 6: I like to pay.

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Speaker 2: Then we just had this conversation, y'all. Yeah, we just

934
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: had this conversation about being supportive of one another.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: But Gina, for real, for real, high let your girl.

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00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: I'll get your number from Layah. You're more than welcome.

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Speaker 2: I'm super proud of you.

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00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 6: Bravo, thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Patience, Thank you so much you Patience.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where she is, but she's here somewhat.

942
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

943
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: Yes, how do you eat an elephant?

944
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: One by time? Our grass is green as fuck?

945
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 9: Can we just take us a love for that and

946
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 9: just soak in that wisdom?

947
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Jda l fam it's Amber the producer here. Gina is fascinating,

949
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 9: like truly fascinating, and we all eat more of her energy.

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Speaker 9: I hope this episode left you with the inspiration to

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00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 9: boldly be yourself in every way and to remember how

952
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 9: dynamic you are, and how dynamic we all are, I mean,

953
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 9: an engineer and a comedian like what. There are so

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Speaker 9: many lives to live in this lifetime, and I hope

955
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 9: you embrace all of yours. And uh, let's add some

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00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 9: more Gina to our lives. I will leave a link

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Speaker 9: to get tickets to her show in the show notes.

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Speaker 9: Go see our good says, get a laughing, and get inspired.

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00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 9: For more GENA content, be sure to check out Bob

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Speaker 9: Loves Alba Sola on CBS and her comedy specials streaming

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Speaker 9: on Netflix.

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Speaker 6: Love you.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi if you have comments on something he said

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Speaker 10: in this episodpisode called eight six six, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Jill, if you want to add to this conversation, that's

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Speaker 2: eight six six four three nine five four five five.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to tell us your name and the episode

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Speaker 2: you're referring to. You might just hear your message on

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Speaker 2: a future episode.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for listening to Jill Scott presents Jay dot lthepodcast.

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Speaker 2: Jay dot L is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 2: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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