WEBVTT - Draft Show: Grade That Prospect 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.240 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:23.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Is the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.480 dot Com Draft Show, your war room for incenter news 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:32.280 and trapped analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:38.360 headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Running Back and now 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:44.840 your hosts David Hellman, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.120 We are now seventy seven days away from the NFL 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:56.000 Draft here in twenty twenty. As we keep rolling on 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.400 looking forward to the combine coming up in just a 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.320 couple of weeks. We are the Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.199 Draft Show. Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yoman's. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.880 Thanks so much for joining us, and guys, we are 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.280 eleven weeks now from the start of the NFL Draft. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.160 We're five weeks into the show. Are we even that 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.400 much closer to finding out what the Dallas Cowboys are 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.399 gonna do in this draft than we were when we 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.680 started five weeks ago? You kind of freaked me out 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.559 just there, Honestly, what we were over one hundred days 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.520 when we started the show and it's already down near 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.800 two months seventy seven. I'm taking some liberties, but still 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.880 we're getting It's not a lot, it's creeping ever so slowly, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:41.600 but steadily. And I don't know did to that question, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.360 did you do you all feel like you have a 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.959 good grasp on this thing yet? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.559 got it nailed at the Cowboys, do I got it nailed? 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.120 I saw a tweet from Dave the other day that 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.920 I totally agreed with. We're gonna go forever leading up 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.120 to the draft and everyone is gonna mock Grant Delpit 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.000 or Xavier McKinney to the Cowboys. Yeah, when they actually 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.960 we get to seventeen, the Cowboys and maybe us won't 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.920 necessarily feel like either one is worth the seventeenth pick. Ye, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.480 they'll both be there. Either somebody will have slid to 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.320 them that'll get picked please Javon Kinla, or they'll trade 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.600 back and then pick one of these secondary guys, either 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.800 a corner or safety. Yeah. I know what they're doing. Yeah, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.400 we're gonna have to look at all these mocks that 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.720 say they're gonna take a safety at seventeen, and then 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.799 they'll move back to take That's that's where my head 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.680 is at like every year, every year, there's always a 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.240 team that is just linked to a guy or two 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.600 or a handful of guys for months and it never 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.840 comes to fruition that cleanly. And that's how I feel 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.880 about Delpit and McKinney. We're gonna shock the world. Get 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.080 ready Henry Ruggs or Jalen Rager at seventeen, Let's dance 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.480 forty burgers baby score points a little more generally, though, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.880 I all, this is this is what I always wonder 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.080 and I remember because it was around it was probably 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.960 around this time. I think it was February when Layton 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.120 vander esh kind of creeped into our cousness in twenty eighteen. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.239 Have we hit on all of the names that will 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.440 be in consideration when it's actually draft time or is 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.079 there somebody who's still lurking out there that's not really 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.000 on the radar? Hey, Japan Sa Turgrossmatos Julian o'quara there 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.839 I thrown some wild cards for defensive end were covered. Okay, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.160 if we're doing a quara there, then where we don't 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.400 need to draft at seventeen. Just wait for the combine. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.040 Wait for the combine coming. I think all the cornerbacks. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.680 I mean, whether it's Trevon Diggs, whether it's Christian Fulton, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.760 whether it's c. J. Henderson, whether it's Jeff Gladney, who 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.160 I'm higher on than most of the world, but whether 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.280 it's uh, you know whoever. Maybe there's the way you're saying, Gladney, 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.320 it's seventeen if you want to, if you want to 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.800 get wild with it, Yeah, I've seen it possible him 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.360 at seventeen, mainly pegged as a second round pick, but 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.280 I could see him at fifty one. Who the hell 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.480 knows what they're really talking about in February, Yeah, exactly, 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.800 And that's that's but I have less I see what 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.360 you're saying about the safeties. I think I have less 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.040 confidence in them drafting safety in the first round, so 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.560 do I maybe any other position. The closer we get 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.040 it kind of seems that way where it seems like, okay, 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.080 safety might not be the number one priority in terms 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.680 of that first round pick, because there are so many 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.159 different things that could happen, whether it is a wide 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.000 receiver to Jeff's Jeff's point, whether it's Rugs, or whether 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.520 it's a Lamb or Judy or somebody whoever falls wide 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.359 receiver wise, if you get one of those burners on 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.960 the back half of that first round, it seems like 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.120 maybe they could lean that way to add another weapon 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.400 on the outside, or you could go with a defensive tackle. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.760 Kin Law is pretty much the the Boise State connection 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.039 a lot. Even take Curtis Weaver two rounds too early 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.600 out of Boise, that'd be a bad plan. More on 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:49.440 Curtis Weaver in segment three. Though I have right around 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.640 twenty first round grades kind of where I'm at right 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.920 now looking at it um and but I started to 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.000 think about because we've been talking about Javon kin Law 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.200 from South Carolina a lot yep, and there's a lot 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.039 to be found out about him and his knee and 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.120 things like that. But I'm thinking about tears of the 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.800 first round. When does that first tier cut off? Okay, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:12.560 so you're borrow Chase Young okuda, Uh, maybe you want 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.320 to throw Derek Brown in there? May yeah, Okay, still 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.200 have four or five guys right there. Simmons, Aah, Simmons, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.280 I'll still him in there. Five. I think Ken Law 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.720 is going to sneak into that group. I think so 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.080 very possible. I'm tempted to go bold today, But I'll 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.480 wait another week and I'll let me let me double 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.599 and triple check my work before I tell you that 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.279 I'll take Javon Kinlaw over Derek Brown. Just let me 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.000 double and triple check my work before I commit to them. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.719 Just want to pease it for right now. It's not insane. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.600 I honestly, it's not because he's a monster. I mean 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.560 he is, He's legitimate, I mean, but so is Brown. Yeah, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:52.440 Derek Brown? Both monsters upside though who gives you more upside? 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.640 Who's the same? Which one? Which one might have a 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.800 twelve sex season? I think, I mean maybe both. Really 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.000 I would get on Brown right now. I think I 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.640 would too, But regardless, I mean, we've talked a lot 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.320 of wide receivers, and we've talked a lot about guys 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.640 that could fall position wise and how deep that class 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.920 is going to be for wide receivers. Are there any 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.039 other positions though, that you're looking at in terms of 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.960 the depth? The depth that could either mean, hey, there's 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.800 a lot of guys at the very beginning that are 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.120 going to be the very top of the draft that 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.279 are going to be immediate starters, or is it guys 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.560 that you can potentially wait on for round three and 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.200 still going to be able to get a guy who 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.800 could be a starter. Tight End is deeper than I 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.640 initially thought it was. Really that's not exciting, and it's 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.400 not top heavy at all, but tight ends a little 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.120 better than I thought it was. Offensive tackle is a 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.320 little bit better than I mean, you're gonna have your 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.640 top heavy guys right there. We've talked about Jedrick Wills 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.600 from Alabama. We've talked about becked In from Louisville. We've 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.719 talked about Andrew Thomas from Georgia and Worf's from Iowa. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.680 You know, those are those guys are probably first round 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.840 tap guys, but second third, fourth round offensive tackle. I 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.479 don't think this team needs to go there because I 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.400 think this team needs to go defense, defense, defense. Yeah, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.800 for depending on this and that's the right wide receivers there. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.320 In today's February six, we're a month away from you know, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.520 deciding who you're going to place your franchise tag on 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.400 and things like that, and they're going to fill out 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.360 the roster and free agency to try to free up 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.520 their draft abilities. So we have no idea what the 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.160 team is going to look like. Which is all the fun. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.120 That's why it's a lot of fun. That's why you 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.320 do have to actually look at the kings of tackles 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.840 and things like that. Even speaking in generalities, I mean, 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.400 I think offensive tackle. I'm very high on a lot 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.320 of these offensive tackles. Josh Jones is one that you 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.800 didn't mention out of Houston. He was at the Senior 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.640 Bowl and he bullied some people on the line. I 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.680 think he could be a first round talent. He's right 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.480 on the edge of a first round grade. For me, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.000 I think he's right at the beginning of my second 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.800 round grade. He's athletic enough. He's my top second round 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.520 offensive linement. I thinks to tackle me as well. I 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.040 don't have it pulled up just yet, but there's I 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.840 think offensive tackle is just as deep in terms of 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.600 guys that you can maybe go back and develop as 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.400 a wide receiver class. Now, I'm not gonna say that 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.120 that they're even. I think wide receiver is definitely the 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.080 deepest position in this draft class. But I think offensive 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.640 tackles right there. I think, at least in the conversation. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.760 It's it's interesting because, like we we've all said a 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.520 million times already, like you can find like ready made 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.720 receivers in the third and fourth round of this draft class. Probably, Yeah, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.120 I don't know if that's true. For offensive tackle, I 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.280 think it's gonna be super top heavy, and like we 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.800 see every year, other than quarterback, that's one of the 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.960 positions teams are most ready to reach on because it's 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.200 it's so important and there just aren't that many good 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.720 offensive tackles to go around. That's why I mean, I'm 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.880 sitting here looking at probably as many as like five 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.600 that would go in the first round. That's another thing 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.520 I'm hoping for if I'm the Cowboys, is that those 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.600 guys keep going off the board. You look at those 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.920 teams in front of the Cowboys too. There's some teams 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.040 that really need some offensive line help, and so I 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.840 think the offensive tackles go off the board. Maybe bring 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.480 us the law maybe, And Justin Herbert was off the 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.880 board there that Jordan Love up in there. Get Jordan Yeah, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.800 heyts a team, he sta panic and get a quarterback 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.920 DeAndre Swift. Let's get a running back in a It's 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.120 kind of the thing I think that's working negatively for 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.439 the Cowboys, as the fact that Philip Rivers is free 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.680 now and that Cam Newton's likely going to I would 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.960 assume he's going to get cut and go somewhere else. Um, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.120 Jameis Winston is free and a team may try to 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.400 revitalize him. I think it's Teddy Bridgewater Taysom Hill. Like, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.520 there's a lot of guys who are kind of free 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.080 with Playsom Hill into that category. We're having fun, aren't we. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.079 I guess I don't think anybody's gonna make Taysom Hill 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.679 their starter. This find the LA Chargers and I have 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.920 no fan base at all. Why not I'm signing Taysom Hill. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.160 Why because I'm the LA Chargers. Baby. Would Mike Williams 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.760 quit the laharg Teenan Allen? Would he quit? They'd be like, listen, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.800 we know that Taysom's running twenty times a game. I'm 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.000 not here for this. Large gives you need to put 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.199 butts in the seats and sell jerseys. Some Hill's exciting, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.360 stop it. They're gonna draft Herbert or something they should like? 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.560 Can I get Taysom Hill and draft Jordan Love? You 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.480 probably could just okay, as long as Taysom Hill's not 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.480 You're like like day one's future and you're like, this 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.560 is our guy. He's only thirty, He's gonna get so 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.960 much better. Stop it. I will to the original, to 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.079 the original point. Like you know, it kind of goes 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.160 back to what we said at the top is you know, 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.280 everybody zeroed in on Grant delput and Xavier McKinney. That's fine. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.440 I think they're both good players. I'd be happy drafting 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.360 either one of them in the first round, honestly, but 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.640 I'd be happy with one of those. Yet people fixate 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.920 on that, and I don't know. I don't know how 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.360 deep this. I don't know how deep it goes. But 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.080 I have now gotten eyes on safeties that I would 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.000 be happy to draft. I mean Winfield. We've been talking 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.560 about Antoine Winfield all week on Twitter. Let go. That 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.000 guy's freaking impressive. Man. He hits, He hits like a missile, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.640 and he covers well. Utah, man's pretty good too, Burgess, Okay, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.839 you tak guys interesting. It's hard to find on tape 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.200 because he lines up somewhere different every play. I have 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.240 to find him at the end of the play, rewind 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.559 and see where he started. He's very interesting. I I 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.319 was concerned about his measurements at the Senior Bowl when 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.200 he came in with thirty inch arms. Not that it 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.559 totally matters at safety how long you are, but he's 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.640 also on the short end of five to eleven. Happened 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.959 to my guy and I the defensive end out of Utah, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.880 came in with the shorty arms after from a note 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.040 said offensive tackles. Can you get their hands on him? 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.520 Put your heart When you get a shorty arm, you 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.600 get a short army. Just needs you to be a 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.040 little bit better. There's a play stretch it though. Just 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.720 get somebody every day to kind of pull on it 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.320 a little bit. See if you can't get another half 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:28.719 inch out of that. And I want to tease a 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.480 head like stretched armstrong sty I want to tease a 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.480 head to the third sement because we're gonna get two guys. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.320 We're gonna sit around here and we're gonna play GM. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.600 We're gonna say, pick the guy who's the better player. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.600 Who do you want the guy and the other guy 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.920 you're probably talking about his Brandon Jones out of Texas. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.280 Briton Jones from Texas watched him yesterday. I don't want 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.400 to ruin the third segment, but I'm interested to hear 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.000 your takes on him, but awesome to that point, you know, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.920 I mean, Delpitt and McKinney's probably your best bet to 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.640 be a I'll throw a Winfield in there at those 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.760 three could probably start day one. Ashton Davis. I'm higher 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.080 on Davis. We're gonna play Winfield and Davison Segment three two. Okay, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.880 we'll put those two together. But I think what I 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.880 would say, there is there something about Winfield that makes 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.320 you go because there's a lot of people were going up, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.280 well he's not tall enough, and I sit there and go, okay, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.439 well his dad played the NFL for fourteen years. Now, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.080 that doesn't mean he's going to be good. But everyone's 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.440 saying all these sized questions about Antoine Winfield junior. Well, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.920 he's five eleven and he's kind of maybe he's five ten. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.880 Gil get what his dad was. His dad was five 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.280 nine and one eighty. Now, I know evolution has changed. Well, 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.560 I don't know if it's so much evolution, No, I know, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.160 I don't change that over humans have grown multiple inches 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.120 on average. You don't fifteen years. You don't think we're 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.880 not going about to get into this. I don't think 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.280 we've gone up two inches on average over the last 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.280 nine twenty years. Now, I don't think. Oh I don't know, man, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.280 pretty yeah, I haven't been phased out yet, thankfully. Yeah. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.560 But you should see my ancestors from fifteen years ago. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.440 Tiny man, tiny, okay and little know in fact, I 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.000 have my family to be birds. Pull it back to 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.200 the road, please. But look looking at Winfield and you 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.760 mentioned his size, I mean on the board all the 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.719 way through position wise, he's the second shortest safety that 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.520 I've got on just in the draft class at the moment. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.560 You know who the name I put in my notes 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.320 on in twin Winfield. They play different positions, but I said, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.240 this is gonna be Desmond King all over again for 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.880 some teams. I love that the Iowa corner where it 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.880 was like, up he's a little too short. Up, he's 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.280 a little too slow. So like if Winfield runs in 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.680 the mid to high four fives and he measures in 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.959 at five nine and three quarters, teams will be like, oh, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.400 he's a little too small and a little too slow, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.960 and I'm gonna go cool. I like that you have 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.079 a physical profile to try to avoid missus. I'm willing 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.960 to take a shot him this one because he's an outlier, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:47.280 because he's a bawler. He didn't look slow catching kJ Hammler, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.839 who was not his assignment on a crossing route and 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.439 being there to make contact with him at the catch. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.920 Like he is very impressive on teams. He sees it 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.800 fast too, he gets ahead of it. And I'm glad 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.640 you mentioned that play because it stands out of him 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.000 seeing something and then going And he also will tackle. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.680 I mean he will. He needs to wrap up better, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.920 but he's kind of got that safety vibe. I want 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.360 to knock you out and say he hits like a 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.080 sack of bricks. I'm not worried about his size at all. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.400 But we're talking about Winfield in that third segment too. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.120 But I want to kind of shift it back over 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.640 to what you were saying. You were talking about late safeties. Yeah, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.400 that you could potentially draft in showing the depth of 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.040 that position. Is there anybody that you're looking at in 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.480 terms of a guy maybe early Day three, even late 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.840 day two that you could go for safety if you 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.000 wanted to draft at Kin Law or a receiver in 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.560 the first round. We've got a limited amount of film 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.160 on this guy. But he was at the Senior Bowl. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.920 Jeremy Chen's interesting. Now. I know it's a small school 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.240 in southern Illinois, but if you're looking for a strong 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.320 safety and that's what that's what he is, don't ask 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.400 him to cover a lot. He did hold his own 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.760 at the Senior Bowl. That's probably fine because the Xavier 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.840 Woods can play free. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't, especially 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.920 you're not talking about drafting a strong safety in the 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.760 first round. We're also to free. Chin is taking a 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.360 swing on nothing but ability, where you're like, well, he's 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.720 got talent, but I don't trust him in coverage. I 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.840 don't trust that he sees things quickly. I don't like, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.720 I don't trust anything other than the fact that he's 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.440 got good size. He's really good at I'm gonna say 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.640 he's every bit of six three two fifteen. So it 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.600 definitely stands out when you watch him play. What's he 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.200 gonna run at the combine? And I think this is 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.960 one that actually will matter. I know he sometimes he 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.040 put a lot of stuck into forties on wide receivers 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.240 and things like that. At safety, maybe you're not looking 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.080 at it too much, but I do think it's important 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:32.720 to see what he runs. My time that I have 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.600 on him now it was a four to six seven. Well, silly, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.800 it's you can run. And he played free, you know 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.360 on tape, so like he played free and he was 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.040 a good open field tackler. You can see how big 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.640 he is though, and that's where you just kind of go, Okay, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.520 there's my strong safety. Fifth round. Cowboys have two picks 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.800 in the fifth round. If you know how Papa safety 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.640 late and you think he can come in and play, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.080 you're probably bringing Jeff Heath back too. And I know 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.480 a lot of people's eyes are gonna roll in the 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.840 back of their head, but that's a chance that happens. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.920 I know I would straight up do it. It's it's 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.280 interesting because we don't know what this coaching staff is 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.960 gonna want. I mean, all the people that valued Jeff 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.720 Heath have moved on for the most part, but I do. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.800 I mean, they will need to bring a capable safety 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.320 and free agency just for numbers, Jeff Heath makes sense, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.320 but we'll see. Darian Thompson, what about corner? That's im 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.000 I wanted to bring that up next because I mean, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.160 we're originally talking about deep positions. I'm thrilled by this 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.880 because I mean much like, I don't know if they 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.040 do it rounds two three like they did in twenty 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.280 seventeen with Cheeto and Jordan Lewis, But you have to 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.920 replace every corner over the next twelve months. That's what 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.720 I'm saying. This seems like a draft. This seems like 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.560 a draft where you would want to double up on 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.960 the position, and there's awesome opportunity to do that here. Okay, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.440 they're not going to touch Jeff Okuda, obviously, but every 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.400 other cornerback, like at the top of the heap makes 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.120 sense for their range, does he not? Christian Fulton, C. J. Henderson, 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.240 Trevon Diggs. I think I would even throw Bryce Hall 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.960 in there. Bryce Hall too, I want him in this week. Okay, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.560 what we're talking about, No, no, we're talking about early 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.320 day three guys. No, no, no no, no, first round. I'm 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.040 talking Okay, maybe not pick seventeen, but again, like you're 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.080 talking about trading back and drafting a safety like and 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.520 you know, I would imagine Bryce Hall could go in 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.080 the twenties or as far back as forty. I think 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.040 I don't think it's crazy to think I have Bryce 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.919 Hall of Virginia. By the way, I've got him in 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.840 my fourth round stack. I love not nuts about him. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.320 But it's fine. If we all agreed on everything, we 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.040 would be crazy people. That's fine. I found a sleeper 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.800 last week. Jeff's sleeper that you kind of came up 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:44.600 with was the Auburn guy. Noah his names, No, I 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.640 used to have it. He got it, well, I got 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.159 I got another sleeper, and I need I'm gonna need 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.200 more tape on him because I just have a Memphis 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.720 game and what's the other game. Found a guy in 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.520 Division three No no, no, no no, no no, it's not 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.760 Division three s the emissunt. They found a guy in 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.879 the German League. No no no, no, oh, I still got him. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.760 Gets Oklahoma State where he's shut down Tayland Wallace, so 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.840 get some of that, and also a Michigan State. You're 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.760 Tulsa guy, but I need more. It's my Tulsa gut 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.480 Reggie Robinson. So earlier in the previous episodes of the 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.360 Draft show, I told you my Manamy, I'm Pat Kat 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.560 was a meek Robertson who had fourteen interceptions in three years, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.120 said Louisiana Tech, but his hip destroyed. I mean he's 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.399 getting nursing home hip. That's not so. Reggie Robinson of 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.280 Tulsa is my new guy six one two O two. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.720 I'm just imagining like next Senior Bowl guy too. Yes, sir, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.000 next week you're gonna sit down and be like, I 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.800 don't like Reggie Robinson. No, no, no no. If I 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.119 find out he's got nursing home hip, then yes, but 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.719 I mean I'll be out on him. Okay, forget forget 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.040 the disagreement of opinion about Bryce Hall. But it's some 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.160 Danceler in your life. He got Cameron Danceler, you got 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.320 NOI an agony. Let's go. We were impressed by Darnay 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.600 Holmes and Dane Jackson at the Senior Bowl. Those are 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.400 more Day three type of guys, but a fifth round 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.880 guy from me. But those guys, I like the odds 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.720 that you can find it. I mean, if you wanted 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.639 to drive after the top, you could, and then you 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.520 could still come back on day three and find a 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.520 pretty good corner. You move back, you take CJ. Henderson 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.639 in the first round, you wait to fifty one, you 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.600 take Cameron Danceler in the second round, and then you 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.719 also have picked up another pick. We'll find our wide receiver, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.840 and we'll find our d tackle there somewhere in the third. 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.960