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Only at the Home Depot. 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: We are back on the Falcons Autobole presented by AT 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: and T. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: At some point DJ Shockley might break out into a freestyle, 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: because that's what he was doing right before we came 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: on the podcast. We're feeling it right because there was 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: no conversation amongst us three that we. 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: All went black on the top and almost. 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Nailed it with the old school logo, but Arch Stills 20 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: got the new logo. Although he said, you said, right. 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: We thought about it, thought about it, You thought about it, 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: thought it? Yeah, you'd think you guys actually were you 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: guys were this logo? 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 4: Right? 25 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: I wore this one and then I went to that one. Yeah. 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: See that was the only one that I was prevy 27 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: fortunate enough to wear players. 28 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that Arch you know this too, probably 29 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: not so much shocked, but when when they do the throwbacks, 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's like that, that's what I wore, you 31 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: know that that was the jersey that I wore. You 32 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: know when like when you end up being in the thread, 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you wore the red helmet, Like I actually never wore 34 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: the red helmet, which is really cool. But uh, certain 35 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: things in life always just kind of make you hit 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: hits a little different, Like, yeah. 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's that's a very good way to say it. 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: That the I said last week on the show as 39 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: we wrapped up the season that we may not be 40 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: back for very long. 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Well guess what here we are just can't get enough 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: of us three. 43 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: So this will be the first of many off season 44 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: shows and as we did mention last week, we will 45 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: be back when there are some bigger moments that happened 46 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: in the off season, and as I mentioned, periodic updates 47 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: and analysis including everything Falcons related, combine free agency, draft 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: and to make sure that you're tuned into a Lantafalcons 49 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: dot Com, the YouTube channel, and all of your other 50 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: areas where you get your social media. They actually wrote 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: down here, wherever you do your social media NG. I 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: didn't know that was a word. But sometimes you just 53 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: as long as you sell it, you can just make 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: it work. Just sell it, like, wherever you do your 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: social media NG, you'll find us. 56 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 57 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: So there was a bigger moment that happened with the 58 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons organization last week. After thorough review of the 59 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff, head coach Rahim Morris decided to part ways 60 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: with defensive cordator Jimmy Lake and defensive line coach Jay Rogers. So, guys, 61 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: uh seow, I'm gonna start with you kind of initial 62 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: reactions when you heard this news it broke, You probably 63 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: got an email and then everybody else nationally ended up 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: seeing the news. What was your first impressions? 65 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: You know what? 66 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 5: Uh? With how long I think time had went on? 67 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: And I say it long as in you know, the 68 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: season ended. It was probably a week of week or 69 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 5: so later, and then it finally happens. You probably thought 70 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 5: nothing was going to happen. But you also look back 71 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: on some of the signs. You look back on some 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 5: of the things that Raheem talked about in his last 73 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 5: press conference, and even after the last ball game, the 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: first thing he mentioned was we did not play well 75 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 5: enough on defense, and you could tell that was something 76 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: that was really stuck in the crawl of his mind, 77 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: and you know, you could tell he was really not 78 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 5: in a good place with how the defense played. And 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: then you look at, you know, some of the things 80 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: that transpired over the last you know, month of the season, 81 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 5: and you say, you know what, this defense did not 82 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 5: continue the growth that you would want. And the other 83 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: part about it is, I think a pee a lot 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 5: of people have to realize and kind of understand is 85 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: this was probably a really really tough decision because of 86 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: the personal side of it. And sometimes you always as 87 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 5: a head coach, you got to try to separate the 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 5: personal and separate the business part of it and be 89 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: the best for this organization. And I think we all 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 5: remember when Rock at the job and he talked about, 91 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: you know, how much he loved having Jimmy, like, how 92 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: much they talked about when he got a job that 93 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: he was going to be a part of it. And 94 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 5: to have to separate that from the personal side and say, 95 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 5: you know, I got it was best for the organization. 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: That had to be tough as well, So these guys 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: are human as well. You guys got to think about probably, 98 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: you know, separating yourself from one of your really good 99 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: friends in businesses that you guys have kind of started together. 100 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: So not doing it was well. Doing it was probably 101 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: a big part of that. But you look back some 102 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 5: of the things that happened last couple of ball games. 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 5: You get one hundred and fifty five rush shards of 104 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: Carolina two hundred and sixteen to Washington one hundred and 105 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 5: fifteen in Minnesota. There's some other glaring stats that you know, 106 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: when you go back and look at you say, you 107 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 5: know what, this defense did not grow as we expected 108 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 5: it to as the season went on, especially with the 109 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: amount of veterans that you had on this ball club, 110 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 5: especially on that side of football. So I thought just 111 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: the lack of growth as the season progressed was a 112 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: big part of why this decision probably was made at 113 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: the end of the season. 114 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is one of those I think 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: it's a great point that you make, DJ, and a 116 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of the viewers and listeners are going to think, well, 117 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: this is the National Football League. I mean, people get 118 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: fired all the time, but it's like when you kind 119 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: of try to put it into perspective how different this 120 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: business is than most every other business. It's not very 121 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: often that you mentioned that a guy gets hired that's 122 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: uniquely qualified, that you actually got a really close relationship 123 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: that one year later you're inn fire. 124 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: Them it's not good enough. 125 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: And I guess it does happen, probably at higher levels 126 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: of larger organizations. 127 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: But that's how things arch work in. 128 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: The National Football League, is that if the results, the 129 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: performance is not there, changes have to be made. There's 130 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: a number of different areas that you can look at, 131 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: but I think the point that Shock makes was the 132 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: amount of veterans and the people that were on this defense, 133 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: the acquisition of Matthew Judahon right before the season started. 134 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: You're thinking, okay, there's pieces to the puzzle there where 135 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: they should be better on pass rush, they should be 136 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: better stopping the run, they should be better on points allowed, 137 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: and maybe even takeaways as well. Is probably where he 138 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: looked at all those areas and says, if we want 139 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: to get into the postseason, we have to make a 140 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: change now. 141 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: Is only that's the only way you can do this, right, 142 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: is You've got to evaluate, you know, why did things 143 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: certainly happen. I was writing my notes down about this, 144 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: and so you evaluate why. So where were we Where 145 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: were some of the things that went on? Were we 146 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: on the same page as a staff? One thing that 147 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: needs probably need to be pointing, You can't you're not 148 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: going to fire everybody on the team. Okay, So the 149 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: players aren't going anywhere. So somebody ultimately is ends up 150 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: holding the bag on this deal. And so normally it's 151 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: one of the coordinators, it might even be a position coach. 152 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: Was it turned out you let your defensive line coach 153 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: go as well? So why would some of those things happen? 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: And so now you're going to go back and evaluate, Okay, 155 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: were we on the same page throughout? Did we have 156 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: the same idea as to how we are going to develop? 157 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: Why didn't that develop? 158 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Why? 159 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: Why we were certain players put in positions to be 160 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: as successful as they could possibly be. Some of the 161 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: things that I know were seeing and some things that 162 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: I watched, you know, Matthew Judah dropping off in coverage. 163 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: You know, we saw that numerous times during the year, 164 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: and you're kind of scratching your head, going, wait a minute, 165 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: he's brought here to rush the pass? Or the guy had, 166 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: you know, thirty five sacks and thirty nine games coming 167 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: in his last thirty nine games, why is he dropping 168 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: off in coverage? So some of those some of those 169 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: ideas of scheme and what you were trying to do, 170 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: did it mesh with what we had in mind when 171 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: we went and got those players, and are we giving 172 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: them the best opportunity to be as good as they 173 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: can possibly be? That, ultimately is why it took as 174 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: long as it did, because there was evaluating. I know, 175 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: those some people talking about why is it taking it 176 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: so long to make that decision? We weren't very good 177 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: on defense? No, we were good on defense and a 178 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: number of places a number of times during the year, 179 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: but that was to it was too inconsistent. Why were 180 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: we inconsistent? That's why it takes as long to evaluate 181 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: what you're going to do there. And ultimately it decided 182 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: that they weren't meshing in their minds and their scheme wise, 183 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: that's why you move forward and move on. So, just 184 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: just to give the fan a little bit of a background, 185 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: I know I had a number of people ask me, 186 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: and I've heard people say locally on the radio here 187 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: in Atlanta, you know why did it take so long 188 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: to make this decision. Well, you guys talked about the 189 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: personal piece of it. I'm talking about the schematic piece 190 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: of it. You combine those two things. There's a lot 191 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: to evaluate there. So that's why where we are now. 192 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 5: Let me add one last thing to this kind of 193 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: to this conversation. And I was looking up some numbers 194 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: and looking up the schematic part of it came to 195 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 5: mind for me and I sat thinking about, okay, where 196 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: did things kind of kind of go a little bit off? 197 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: And obviously the sacks were a big part of it. 198 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 5: You know, thirty first in the league with thirty one sacks, 199 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: and you say, okay, that's a part of not going 200 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: to get to the quarterback. And then it also contributes 201 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: to the back end as well. This number, I thought 202 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 5: was staggering. I didn't even realize it was a particular 203 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 5: stat but it was. The Falcons were last in the league. 204 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: Teams were completing sixty nine point nine percent of their 205 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 5: passes against them. That tells you first thing, I get 206 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 5: in to the quarterback, and then it makes it easy 207 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: on the these quarterbacks in this league to throw the 208 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: football over the yard. And we saw it through the year, 209 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 5: every guys open, there were time to throw the football. 210 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 5: Guys had their career days against against us in these 211 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: ball games. So those kind of correlating go hand in 212 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: hand with each other. If you can't get to the 213 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 5: quarterback and then you're also giving that quarterback time. In 214 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: this league, the best of the best playing apposition, the 215 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: smartest one of the smart couple of smartest guys on 216 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: the field, they're gonna hurt you. So ultimately, I think 217 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: that's part of the problem as well, is schematically, if 218 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: you can't get to them and you're not really holding 219 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: guys off, I don't know how you're gonna be able 220 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 5: to hang around. 221 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw it throughout the year early on where 222 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: we saw a lot of veteran quarterbacks early in the season, 223 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: you know, the Patrick Mahomes and people like that of 224 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: the world that have the ability to stretch you and 225 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: make plays down the field, were playing the keyboard. They 226 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: were taking what you were giving them, and so so 227 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: we you know, the idea of meshing pass rush up 228 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: with what we're doing in the back end. Shock makes 229 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: a great point. The only way you can get to 230 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: the courtquarterback as to make him hold the football. If 231 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: we're not doing something on the perimeter to make him 232 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: wait and make receivers redirect and all those kind of things, 233 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: then it's not meshing. And that's where some of this conversation. 234 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure an evaluation wins. They look back and looked 235 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: at all seventeen games. 236 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of common themes to what you guys 237 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: were saying there. And the word that you guys kept 238 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: saying over and over and over that I that just 239 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: resonates with me is schematic in scheme, right, and in 240 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: the National Football League, there's two things that you have 241 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: to have to win. In my opinion, and this might 242 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: be oversimplified. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong, 243 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: but you need players first and foremost. You need really 244 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: good players, and you have to have a scheme that 245 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: allows them to be successful, which that comes from coaching. 246 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna flip this over. I know we're 247 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: talking about defense, but I'm going to talk about offense 248 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: for a second. Think about these teams that I'm going 249 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: to talk about, Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City. I'd even throw 250 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: the rams in there. You've got players, quarterbacks, wide receivers, 251 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: You've got some of the more bright of offensive minds 252 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: from a scheme perspective, that get these teams, get these 253 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: players open, get the football in their hands. Right, So 254 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: the same thing could be said on the defensive side 255 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: of the ball. I went and looked up who the 256 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: number one team total defense this year in the National 257 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Football League? 258 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: Was DJ's gonna like this one? The Philadelphia Eagles, right 259 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: yards per game? Where have they. 260 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: Invested a lot of their assets upfront on the defensive line, right, 261 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: And not only that, So they've got the players, but 262 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: the scheme is also fit. And that's part of the 263 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: reason why they got in the postseason because they're really 264 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, they got Saquon Barkley, but it's so 265 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: much about scheme. And I think that's what Raheem Morris 266 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: looked back and he said, we have to have a 267 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: scheme change. So guys, let's talk a little bit about 268 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: what Atlanta needs to look for in the next defensive corner, 269 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: even defensive line coach, if you want to go down 270 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: that road as well. Now, let me make this quick disclaimer. 271 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions that we have here on names 272 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: or anything are solely ours. They don't come from the organization. 273 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: We don't have our to the wall, to the coaching 274 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: staff for the personnel department and know which direction they're going. 275 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: We're just talking about some players or some excuse me, 276 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: some coaches that might be available if we get into 277 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: names that we think are potential good fits. But what 278 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: is Atlanta looking for arch in your opinion, in their 279 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: next defensive coordinator. 280 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: Well, you're looking at what everybody's looking for. I want 281 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: to rush the passer, I want to take the football away. 282 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: I want to win on third down in the red zone. 283 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 284 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: Let's let's go find those guys. But it's what you're 285 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: talking about is the meld of what you have on 286 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: this roster, because you're not going to what do we got? 287 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: Let's you got sixty nine guys, account, the account, the 288 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: practice squad, guys. Who have sixty nine guys on a roster, 289 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 4: you know thirty four of those thirty three of those 290 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: guys are defensive players. You're not changing all thirty three players. 291 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: So you're talking about maybe switching out at most ten 292 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: guys on the defensive side, eight guys on the defensive side. 293 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 4: So who is the guy that's going to be able 294 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: to come in and blend with what you have talent wise, 295 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: and this is a talented team. You've got guys that 296 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 4: are coming to you know, You've got a guy like 297 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 4: Arnold Lebakatie is coming into his own. You've got the 298 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: number seven tackler in the National Football League, and Kayden 299 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: nellis at the second level. You've got one of the 300 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: best safeties in all in the entire league in Jesse Bates, 301 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: maybe one of the best corners in the league. You've 302 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: got talent on that side of the football, and there's 303 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: some guys that are that are coming on. Maybe Ruca 304 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: Roro is that next guy that's going to be a 305 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: dominant interior defender. We saw at moments that that happened. 306 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: What does Brandon Dorls bring to the table? What if 307 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: you get Braylen Trice back on the field, what does 308 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: he do? So you've got some talent on this team 309 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: that's been drafted and brought in a free agency. So 310 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 4: now I've got to find a guy that matches what 311 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 4: You're going to have to listen to the vision. So 312 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: when you're interviewing a guy and you guys know this, 313 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: if you've got a guy coming in the building and 314 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: there's been there's been names thrown out there. Lou anam 315 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: Romo's name has been thrown out there. Outstanding defensive coordinator 316 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 4: of Cincinnati, worked with Jesse Bates. He's going to be 317 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 4: in the building here or at least are going to 318 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: talk to him. He's a guy you need to talk to. 319 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: A guy's been very successful in National Football League. Helped 320 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: get Cincinnata to a Super Bowl here about three years ago, 321 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: help them win a suit, help them, you know, almost 322 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl very close against the Rams. But 323 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: can he mesh what you what is his vision for 324 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: the guys that you have up front? 325 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 3: What is his vision for that? 326 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: Saying what are we going to do in that in 327 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 4: that front seven that's going to create offensive line problems 328 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: trying to get guys blocked. That's what the whole conversation 329 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: is going to be about. You guys know that as 330 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: well as I do. And how do you blend it, 331 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: as Shaq said, with the back end and to those guys' 332 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: talents match, Okay, we want to come up and play press. 333 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: We're gonna play press. We're gonna play man coverage all 334 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: over the field. I'm gonna have a single safety in 335 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: the high in the air in the in the back end, 336 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: we're going to rock the safety down the box. Does 337 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: that match what we have or does it not? So 338 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: that that's what the whole conversation is going to be. 339 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: DJ, Have you had a chance to think more. 340 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Arch hit it like the the 341 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: four biggest areas where you're successful on defense and finding 342 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: somebody that not only has the right vision but is 343 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: able to communicate it to Raheem Morris in their interviews. 344 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: And then take the players that's on this rock for 345 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: the core players that you know are gonna be back, 346 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: because guys at this point, we don't really know outside 347 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: of a few guys that you mentioned they are going 348 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: to be there next year, but there could be some 349 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: other guys that are not just because of salary cap situation, 350 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: because of trying to make the numbers and the work 351 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: with players and everything. But what else has to happen 352 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: with this hire in order for Atlanta to get it right. 353 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: I think ar did a good job of breaking down 354 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 5: some of the stuff that's ultra important, and I think 355 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: philosophically you have to be a looked little bit different 356 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: than you were last year. And we talked about some 357 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: of the things that makes this defense really good and 358 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: the type of players you have. But I think it 359 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 5: comes down to are you going to change the roles 360 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 5: with some of these guys like ours mentioned, like are 361 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: we going to be more aggressive going after the quarterback? 362 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 5: You look over at Minnesota, who obviously they lost the 363 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: other night, but they were a team. 364 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: Who were really aggressive. 365 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: They were more aggressive than most teams that you face, 366 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: or there's other teams that sit that can play a 367 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: lot of coverage. But does that fit the type of 368 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 5: players you have going in? So I think that's gonna 369 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: be a big part of it is how do you 370 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: emphasize the strength of what these guys can do that 371 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: you know they're gonna be in the building. So if 372 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: you come into an interview with Ruhnie mooorries, you say, look, 373 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 5: I've watched a bunch of tape on AJ Terrell. I 374 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: feel like he's so much better when he's in this 375 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: role as opposed to some of the things he did 376 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: last season. And if that fits it, then okay, let's 377 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: move forward with that. You look at red zone, that's 378 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: a big part of the team, big part of winning 379 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 5: ball games. And I think ultimately you got to think 380 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 5: about next year. This is going to be a really 381 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: good team. Offensively, you gonna score a lot of points, 382 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: So how can you slow people down? How can you 383 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 5: create more turnovers? This last season the Falcons with thirty 384 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: first in the league and giving up touchdowns. They give 385 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 5: him thirty four touchdowns this last season. That's thirty first 386 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: in the league. So a lot of that, yeah, came 387 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 5: from outside of the twenty, but a lot of that 388 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: came within the red zone. What's your strategy, what's your 389 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: philosophy inside the red zone to kind of punk the 390 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 5: brakes when people get down there, And I think that's 391 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 5: a big part of it as well. So philosophically, whoever 392 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: comes in, I think there has to be a change 393 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: in how this defense looks going forward as opposed to 394 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 5: what we saw last year. And there were times where, yeah, 395 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 5: you saw some really cool stuff that Jimmy Lake drew 396 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 5: up that gave guys opportunities. We talked about kay nellis 397 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: his ability beyle to rush the passer and create those 398 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: avenues a lot of five man fronts where he was 399 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: the guy that was rushing or he was dropping and 400 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 5: you got other guys coming off the edge. So I 401 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of differences that you can use 402 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: a lot of guys that you can actually use in 403 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: this defense to give you an advantage. But I think 404 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 5: coming in, whoever that guy is, he has to make 405 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 5: it known specifically about certain guys in certain situations. How 406 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 5: he feels that gives Raheem a little bit of a 407 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 5: pause on Okay, maybe that's better than what we did 408 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 5: last year. 409 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: I'm kind of going to surprise you on this a 410 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: little bit. But excuse me. 411 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: Is this a situation where you think this next coordinator 412 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: has to be a previous coordinator because we saw Zach 413 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Robinson coming in getting his first opportunity as an offensive 414 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: coordinator being an offensive guy working under Sean McVay. But 415 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: do you think this is one where Raheem is going 416 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: to have to have somebody that has been a coordinator 417 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL before. 418 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: I do. 419 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 4: I think that you can need the guy with experience 420 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: that has understanding of how to in shock talked about. 421 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: You know what are we going to be? I think 422 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: he's got to be able to shift gears. 423 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 4: If you're playing Lamar Jackson, the starting is the quarterback 424 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: you're facing, there's probably gonna be a little bit different 425 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: plan put together than if you're playing you know, justin Herbert, 426 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: you know who was going to stand in the pocket 427 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: a little bit more stand up pocketer. So a guy 428 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: that has the ability to shift gears within the confines 429 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: of your scheme and still show that aggressiveness or however 430 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: you want to play, but still make a little nuances 431 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: that's going to be able to stop the run. If 432 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: I'm facing Baltimore, the number one concern is to stop 433 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: the run game. I need to find a way to 434 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: get Derrick Henry stopped. 435 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: Right. 436 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: That's what Buffalo is going to have to deal with 437 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: in the playoffs this weekend. 438 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 4: I'm if I'm playing Kansas City, my number one concerns 439 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: probably Patrick Mahomes and what's he going to do and 440 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: getting the tight end stop, you know, and taking away 441 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: some of those plays. So I think a coordinator that's 442 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: been in the mix and had to make those those 443 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 4: adjustments during the week each week, I think that that's 444 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: going to fall on a guy that's been a coordinator before. 445 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: Would you guys agree with that? 446 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 447 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: I would. 448 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think to your point, it's like somebody 449 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: that's that's been through the ringer that said, Okay, this 450 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: player has been really good here, but has the creativity 451 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: to think, well, well, maybe he ends up playing a 452 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: little bit more here, and he's and he's got some 453 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: results that can show for it too. Like I think 454 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: about the Zach Bond move for Philadelphia, right like when 455 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: they went out and got him, he was not really 456 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: a difference maker, and he ended up leading the league 457 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: or close to leading the leading tackles and the even 458 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: first team All Pro player this year. So like kind 459 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: of the vision that you can have for different players 460 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: when you bring him into the organization number one, and 461 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: then find the role that you feel like they're the 462 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: uniquely qualified to fill. But would you agree shocked that 463 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: it's got a previous coordinator experience in the NFL or 464 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: even college game if we open it up, maybe it's 465 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: a respected college defensive corner. 466 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: Is that important? You believe? 467 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 5: I do, And I love the fact you would college too, 468 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: because it gives a different feel coming into the college 469 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: game versus the pro game, and maybe there's some things 470 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 5: that are going on on that level that's a little 471 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: bit different from what maybe offenses see now coming into 472 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 5: the National Football League. So I love the fact that 473 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: you have a guy who's been there, done it. I 474 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: love the fact that you have a guy who understands 475 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: what it takes in this league with how different it 476 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: can change weekly, like Arts just mentioned as far as personnel, 477 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 5: that you can make those in game. Obviously you got 478 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: to make a lot of adjustments during the week, but 479 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: we know if games are one with the adjustments you 480 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: make in game within series, things that you can see 481 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 5: off right off the bat and say, you know, I 482 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: can go back to a moment where I've seen this, 483 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: you know, two years ago and say, you know what, 484 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: I know what they do in these situations. So I 485 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: love the fact that you could have one of those 486 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 5: kind of guys who's been there, done it, but also 487 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 5: has that experience and to be in those moments to 488 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 5: be able to make those changes when you need them. 489 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: And I'm of the opinion, guys, and I'd love to 490 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: hear what you guys think of this, And again my opinion, 491 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna need to move on this fairly quickly. You're 492 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 4: gonna have you got four or five guys you want 493 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: to talk to. Well, there's seven openings in the National 494 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 4: Football League at as a head coach. Those guys are 495 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: gonna want to talk to those guys too. The quicker 496 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: you can get your guy hired. And I'm not talking 497 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: about rush just to get a guy. Make sure you 498 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: get the right guy. But it has to be done 499 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 4: with a sense of urgency here because there are opportunities. 500 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: Let's say, you know, Ben Johnson, who's one of the 501 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: top coordinators right now for the Lions, gets one of 502 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: these jobs, he's gonna have guys he's gonna want to 503 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: take with him. He's gonna have relationships with guys he's 504 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: gonna take. So you need to kind of strike while 505 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: the iron's hot here a little bit where guys are available. 506 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: I think Atlanta's doing that. 507 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: We talked about. 508 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: They're gonna interview lou Anrouma. There's a number of good 509 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: there's guys in this building that they're gonna talk to. 510 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: I'd be surprised if Jerry Gray's not talk to. Jerry 511 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: Gray has been a very good defensive coordinator in the 512 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: National Football You back to his time in Buffalo in 513 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: two thousand and four to two thousand and five, they 514 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: haven the number two defense in the league back to 515 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: back years. Talk about a guy like Jeff Olbrook a 516 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: guy that has been in this build before. His coach 517 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: with Raheem Morris, Jeff Ulbrich has had a top five 518 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: defense in New York with all the stuff that's going 519 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 4: on with their quarterback up there. For the last three 520 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: straight years they being any three or four in the 521 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 4: National Football Even this year when he took over as 522 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: an interim head coach, they were number four in the 523 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: league on defense. Now you say, well, they got some 524 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: dudes on that. Yeah, they got some dudes, but they 525 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: got a guy coordinate, Like you were talking about, putting 526 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: guys in position to be the best they can possibly be. Now, 527 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: Steve Wilkes's name, as I know, is out there. He's 528 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: had to dominant defenses in Carolina and in San Francisco. 529 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: These are just a few of the names. 530 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: And again my opinion of guys are going to look 531 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 4: at But I do think you need to strike now 532 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: and not wait because I think. 533 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: Some of these guys. The other people know these guys 534 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: are pretty good too, and they're going to grab these guys. 535 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: What about Dave Watch coordinating defense? Yeah, only if you 536 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: come with me, seant you d. 537 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: Lie to. 538 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: You make a good point, though, Arch, because not only 539 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: the guys that are going to be named head coach. 540 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: Remember there was already one named in Mike Rabel. Mike 541 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Rabel's probably out there looking for some staff right now. 542 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: And if you again, you can't rush. You got to 543 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: find the right guy that fits your organization. But that 544 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: right guy that you think might fit the organization, Mike 545 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: Rabel might think he fits up in New England as well, 546 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: and sometimes you can't necessarily control that. If somebody wants 547 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: to coach with Mike Rabel or they want to be 548 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: in the Patriots organization more than this one, you can't 549 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: really control that. But there are some factors that you 550 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: have to consider. Guys at Switch Gears a little bit 551 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit about Terry Fontinao. He had 552 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: his end of season press conference last week, and I 553 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: wanted to get your guys' initial thoughts on that. Obviously, 554 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: his big theme was the results speak for themselves. We 555 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: didn't win enough football games, and so basically all the 556 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: conversations are on the table. They kind of have to 557 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: be when you're in the National Football League and you 558 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: come up short of your goals, not only this season, 559 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: but I think in Terry fonton knows tenure as the 560 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: general manager, he has not won as many games as 561 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: he wants as the general manager. So, DJ, what did 562 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: you take away from some of the common themes coming 563 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: away from Terry's press conference. 564 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 5: I think you hit it right on the head. To start, 565 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 5: is took accountability for what this team was not this season. 566 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 5: And I think coming as a GM, you have to 567 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: hit that head on because a lot of people are 568 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: gonna look at you and say, you know what, You're 569 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 5: a big part of the personnel that is here. You 570 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: went out and said, all right, I wanted to draft 571 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 5: this guy, you want to bring this guy in free agency. 572 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 5: And I thought, right off the top, he took accountability 573 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: for it, which was big and I think obviously, you 574 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: know a lot of guys will do that, but I 575 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 5: love the sincerity of what you brought. You talked about 576 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: it we must do better, to be better, and he 577 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 5: talked about, hey, yeah we could talk about it. The 578 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: words matter, yeah, but we got to see results, and 579 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 5: I think that's ultimately what you want to hear from 580 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: the GM. I thought he did a good job of 581 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: also talking about the frustration of the fans, because I 582 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: think sometimes when people see the GM, they're so far 583 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: away from the actual fan that you don't think that 584 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 5: they actually understand what you're going through. And I love 585 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 5: the fact that he spoke to the frustration of the 586 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: fans because he has that same frustration, so the fans 587 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: know right away that yeah, yeah, I'm still trying to 588 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 5: do this to put the best product on the field 589 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: for our fan base and go forward. I thought he 590 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: was real specific and some of the things that he 591 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 5: talked about, and I think I mentioned it last week 592 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 5: was we need more production out of the tight end position, 593 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: and he hit it head on. He said, yeah, we 594 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: haven't got what we wanted from this guy since his 595 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: rookie season. And that wasn't you know, to call him 596 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 5: out or anything. But he was asked the question and 597 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: he answered it frankly, which I think a lot of 598 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 5: fans feel the same way because you can talk about it, Hey, 599 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: I understand your frustration, fans, I hear you, and then 600 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 5: you don't acknowledge it or even talk about the situation 601 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 5: at hand. So I love the fact that he went about, 602 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: you know, talking about those different things head on that 603 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: give you a little pause. But I think the biggest 604 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 5: thing that he you know, actually he has to be 605 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 5: real kind of general on this kind of in this moment, 606 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 5: because before that press conference, Jimmy Lake was still here. 607 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: So I think some of the things he talked about 608 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: was how we have to improve this team going forward, 609 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: and it starts with free agency, with draft, starts with 610 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 5: you know, looking at this whole entire roster, looking at 611 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: the coaching staff, and like you said, everything's on the table. 612 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 5: So even though it was you know, I wouldn't say 613 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 5: typical general you know, coach or GM speak, I thought 614 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 5: he was real frank about a certain couple of topics 615 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 5: that gave the fan base something to say. You know 616 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 5: what he hears us, he understands it, and he knows 617 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: that these have to be better if this organization is 618 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: going to be better. 619 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and shock, I think you know, this is a 620 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: This is a crucial off season for Terry as well, 621 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: because if you think about free agency and draft over 622 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I think you could probably 623 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: make the argument it's been a little bit of a 624 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: mixed back. Like you bring in Kate Nellis, you bring 625 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: in Jesse Bates, I mean, those are impact players, but 626 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: you also you bring in you know, Matthew Judon doesn't 627 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: necessarily work out, and obviously the Kirk Cousins situation has 628 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: not worked out. We don't know how that's gonna end 629 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: up sifting out in the offseason. You mentioned the Kyle Pitts. 630 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: You go out on a limb when you draft the 631 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: tight end number four overall, and then he ends up 632 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: having a really good rookie season and since then it's 633 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: been kind of underwhelming. So those are kind of the 634 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: targets that get put on your back. You have to 635 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: make difficult decisions when you're a general manager. In the draft, 636 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: you have to go out on a limb because you're 637 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: convicted about somebody. They were convicted about Michael Pennix and 638 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: it looks like now that might turn out to be 639 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: a really good selection as things kind of shook out. 640 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: But there's pressure always in that role as the general manager, 641 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: but maybe even more elevated for Terry this offseason. 642 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: And there's no question, I mean, it ramps up when 643 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 4: you don't succeed right and you don't hit your goals. 644 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 4: And the goals for this team was to win this 645 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: division and be in the playoffs and have a chance 646 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: to potentially do something special in the offseason dance or 647 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: the postseason dance, So that didn't work out. So now 648 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: you reevaluate are we headed in the right direction. There's 649 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: got to be some conviction in what you were thinking 650 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: was right, but you're going to try to find those 651 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: indicators to verify. 652 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I do like the direction we're going. 653 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: Obviously they didn't like what was going on defensively, so 654 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 4: they've made a chance teams there after a lot of 655 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 4: a lot of thought process and a lot going into it. Okay, 656 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: can we do better there? Yeah, we can do better there. 657 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: We can do better there from a coaching standpoint, and 658 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 4: you can bet you we all know they can do 659 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 4: better in a couple of places from a from a 660 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: player standpoint. 661 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 3: So they're going to. 662 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: Acquire players, as Shock talked about with free agency and 663 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: in the draft, as you always do, you know, but 664 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: I do think it. Shock made a great point in 665 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: that I think that for him to verbalize what the 666 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: fan is feeling, uh and and understand there's a frustration here. 667 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: You're seven straight years out of the postseason and so 668 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: there's a there's a frustration here. There's fans are wanting 669 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: to come down. They're pulling for the team, trying to 670 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 4: pull them through and just can't quite get there. He 671 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: identified that, and then to talk about maybe some of 672 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: the little points as you discussed with the tight end 673 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: or whatever, and even he even tuss talked at length 674 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: about Kirk Cousins that there's a lot of conversation going 675 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: to happen around Kirk and and what they do. But 676 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: what he did say was, and maybe there's some clarity 677 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: it needs to be put there. They're comfortable with him 678 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: returning as their backup quarterback. Are you comfortable paying the 679 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: quarterback that much money to be the backup? Probably not, 680 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: but you're going to pay him anyway. Based on the situation, 681 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: would you rather have him paid play for another team 682 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: like like Denver had to pay Pittsburgh to play, or 683 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: would it be better to have him here as a mentor? 684 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: And he's he's shown that he's willing to potentially do 685 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: that with a guy that has has a ceiling that 686 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: is through the roof when it comes to or you know, 687 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: the sky's a limit with Michael Pennix to have him around. 688 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: So I thought that that Terry did a really good 689 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: job of addressing it. But Rack, you're exactly right. You know, 690 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: we're now the mulligans have been used, right, you know, 691 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: you kind of are at a point now where we 692 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: need to go, we need to go shoot sixty five. 693 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, I love it. That's the only shock. 694 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: The only guy in here is about of the shock. 695 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: By the way. That's a golf reference, by the way. 696 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: Golf reference, by the way. And number one's oh yeah, 697 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: we could just go out and shoot sixty five. 698 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: It's only seven under. 699 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 700 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: So, guys, it's I think about how the playoffs has 701 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: kind of shaken out so far. Right, you have the 702 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: team that was in the same division in Tampa that 703 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: ended up finishing two games ahead. They end up going 704 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: and they play the team that you end up playing 705 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: a couple weeks prior, and they lose. 706 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 4: Right, so, and then they played them in week one 707 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: and one by seventeen, that's the way this league is. 708 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: And then you think about the Minnesota Vikings. Guys, like 709 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: one game week eighteen from getting the number one overall 710 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: seed fourteen and three and they get out played in 711 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs and they're done. So 712 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: think about, right, think about them how their season went. 713 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean so much, so much excitement, so much happiness. 714 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Everybody in the organizations was so excited about how the 715 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: season went. They get to the postseason, which is where 716 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Atlanta wanted to go. That's they wanted to be. One 717 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: game further. The Minnesota Vikings have fourteen wins. 718 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: Are out. 719 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: There's disappointment around there, and you just never. 720 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Know what's gonna happen, especially when you get in the dance. 721 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: So in the Atlanta Falcons, if they could have won 722 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: one more game and get in the postseason, you never 723 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happenrue. So you, guys, before I close it, 724 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you this one simple question, and 725 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: it might be an elephant in the room, it might 726 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: be something that people didn't think about, but shock, what 727 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: is the biggest thing on the plate for the Atlanta 728 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Falcons organization now as we are at this, call it 729 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: third week in January and moving forward. What's the biggest 730 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: thing that's on their table right now? 731 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 5: I think it has to be obviously as higher the 732 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: next defensive coordinator because that goes a long way into 733 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 5: what you do defensively, and we talked about it last week. 734 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 5: There are a lot of question marks on this defense, 735 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 5: with a lot of guys who are signed with a 736 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: one year deal or maybe coming up on their last 737 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: year on a deal or whatever. And you got to 738 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 5: get that defensive coordinator here right away to start breaking down. 739 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 5: And obviously, if he's going through this process, he's looked 740 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 5: at this defense, he's done all his homework on the person, 741 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: nail that soil. He knows going into that interview what 742 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: he needs to conversate with Rohie Morris about. So I 743 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: think hiring that guy goes a long way into what 744 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 5: happens next, especially on that side of football. And I 745 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 5: think a lot of the conversation that we have this 746 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: offseason would probably go on that side of the ball. 747 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 5: And we talked about it in length about pass rush 748 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 5: obviously being a big deal, corner being another spot opposite 749 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: of AJ Terrell. How happy are you with that guy? 750 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: Dvin Newdy's quarter may say, you know what, hey, I 751 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 5: need another guy who can do this as opposed to 752 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: what it's already in the room. One thing that came 753 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 5: up to me was what's gonna happen at inside linebacker? 754 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 5: And you think about what you have now You've got 755 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 5: kay Nellis, who oh great great player, did a great 756 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: things for you last couple of years, but I think 757 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 5: he may be coming up on the last year of 758 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: this deal. Maybe you look at Troy Anderson, guys played 759 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 5: nine games in the last two years. You haven't gotten 760 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: a production. You going out of him, You go out. 761 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: And Dravet J. D. 762 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 5: Birchrand and who played twelve games this season, was a 763 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: solid player for you. But you look inside there, what 764 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 5: are we gonna do it? N that's that lineback, because 765 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 5: that we know that's a critical part of the defense, 766 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 5: is that guy in the middle. We've looked around the 767 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 5: league and looked at guys who play in that spot 768 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 5: right now on defenses, who with the green down their helmet. 769 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 5: That's super important. So there's a lot of conversations I 770 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 5: need to be had about this defense. But it starts 771 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 5: with hiring the right guy, like we've talked about for 772 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: the last twenty five minutes, and that guy has to 773 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: come in with a direct correlation of what he wants 774 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 5: to do with this personnel in this team. 775 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's one of those arts where I 776 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: feel like there are some difficult decisions, probably on the 777 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: defensive side, that are going to have to be made right, 778 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: some decisions at corner. You mentioned at Mike Cues, what's 779 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: his future look like? Justin Simmons, Matthew Judhon, even a 780 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: guy like Grady Jared. I know that he has been 781 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: the face of this franchise for a long time. But 782 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: this new defensive coordinator has to come in and say, 783 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: all right, here's my plan for twenty twenty five. Now 784 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: let's look at the guys that are on this roster. 785 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: Can I execute my plan? Can I execute what I 786 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: want and what this organization needs with these guys? Or 787 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: do we have to make some difficult decisions in the offseason. 788 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: I think those are the discussions, the difficult ones that 789 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: are going to be coming up pretty quickly. 790 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, the number one concern is obviously obviously coordinator. 791 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: So I won't go coordinator, So I'm going to go 792 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 4: salary cap. I mean, you're going to have to figure out, 793 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 4: which is kind of what you're talking about, is, Okay, 794 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: what are we going to do to create room that 795 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: If we don't have the guys in that defensive meeting room, 796 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: how do we go get those guys? And and and 797 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: where do we where can we restructure or release or 798 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: whatever it is to create that opportunity to go get 799 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: a piece or two here to bring them in to 800 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: meld with whatever our defensive coordinator is going to do. 801 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 4: So defensive coordinator probably obviously the number one concern, I 802 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 4: think salary cap, and I know they're already jocking on 803 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: what do they want to do and trying to put 804 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 4: together what it's going to look like when the league 805 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 4: gear kicks in. Who have we re upped, who have 806 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: we let go potentially? 807 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 3: Who have we designated as a junior June one? 808 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: Make my head hurt? All right? 809 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: So math but that and then here's the here's the 810 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: whole ide in the reality of the GM and the 811 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 4: salary cap guys and the personnel guys, is there's multiple 812 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 4: stuff going on around the around that it's not just Okay, 813 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: we're gonna do this first, then we'll go to this, 814 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: then we'll go all this stuff is happening at the 815 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 4: same time and and trying and you're trying to mesh 816 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: it together to where it comes together where you're going 817 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: to hit the ground run. 818 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 5: And they got to a kind of stuff. You get 819 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 5: to pick out the stuff you don't like. I gotta 820 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 5: don't like them onions, picked them. 821 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 4: Up, You pick out, you pick out the onions, come 822 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: on pepples. 823 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 5: Only, none of that. 824 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: So there you're having, folks. Running an NFL team is 825 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: like a perfect recipe of gumbo. I've never actually heard 826 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: it said, you just know sometimes DJ Shockley hashtag no onions. 827 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Arch, great job today as always, DJH. I thought 828 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: it was going to be like a few weeks, maybe 829 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: a couple of months before I saw you guys again, 830 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: and it turned out to be seven days. 831 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: So it's great and uh you by the way, so 832 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: listen to Rack. 833 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 3: Rack is going to be on the radio. 834 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: He's calling the big game of the weekend, calling Buffalo Baltimore. 835 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 4: Get ready, Ray guys that are going for the MVP. 836 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, you got Lamar Jackson, you got Derrick Henry, 837 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: you got James Cook. 838 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, that's gonna be. 839 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Too much matchup. So I was in Buffalo last weekend. 840 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm back up there this weekend. I hadn't been to 841 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: Buffalo since I played there. Yeah, I'm already because its 842 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be colder this weekend than it was. 843 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 4: Are you tired of people ask you if you got 844 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: wings when you're in Buffalo? 845 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 5: No? No, no, not tired of it is Buffalo. 846 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it is Buffalo, but they're they're very well known. 847 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: I've already gotten a couple of restaurant recommendations for this weekend. 848 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: So anyway, yes, I'll be back in Buffalo as the 849 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: NFL playoffs continue and again the tournament that Atlanta Falcons 850 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: are looking to get themselves into in twenty twenty five. So, 851 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: as we said, we'll be back for the bigger moments 852 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: of the off season. Maybe this organization ends up hiring 853 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. We will be back sooner than later, 854 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: but until then, thanks so much for joining us in 855 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: the Falcons Audible, presented by AT and T. 856 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: That's hashtag no onions, d he Shockley. 857 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Dave Archer. I'll get a hashtag for him 858 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: next week. I'm Derek Racking. Thanks so much for joining us. 859 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time right here on the Falcons Audible.