Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington with breaking news as it
Speaker 1: is now being reported that former Senator Joe Lieberman has died,
Speaker 1: most recently a national co chair to the No Labels Operation.
Speaker 1: We in fact just spoke with him last week about
Speaker 1: their effort to get a candidate on the ballot to
Speaker 1: run against Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Of course, a
Speaker 1: long time veteran of the Democratic Party, although he served
Speaker 1: as well as an independent. In his last cup of
Speaker 1: coffee in the US Senate twenty four years in the
Speaker 1: Upper Chamber, Lieberman of course also ran as a vice
Speaker 1: presidential candidate, the vice presidential nominee with Al Gore in
Speaker 1: the year two thousand, thrown into, of course, one of
Speaker 1: the most remarkable recounts in modern presidential history. Joe Lieberman,
Speaker 1: the gentleman from Connecticut, has died at eighty two. Joining
Speaker 1: us now our political panel, Lauren Tomlinson is with US
Speaker 1: partner at Steer pr and Alvin Jordan of Rock Solutions,
Speaker 1: neither of whom were prepared to talk about this, but
Speaker 1: that's the way things go. Alvin, his legacy in the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, even though he ended his tenure as an independent,
Speaker 1: would be described how I would.
Speaker 2: Just say as one of those titans, just like one
Speaker 2: of the names that you know, kind of when you
Speaker 2: come into the world of kind of policy and just
Speaker 2: life on the hill. Just one of those names that
Speaker 2: kind of sticks, right, you said the gentleman from Connecticut.
Speaker 2: That was kind of my first thought. We were kind
Speaker 2: of thinking about this or talking about this just a
Speaker 2: quick second ago. And you know, I think just in
Speaker 2: a year where we're starting to see you know, a
Speaker 2: handful of people start to kind of bow out and retire,
Speaker 2: it's kind of the opposite with with leaving in the
Speaker 2: sense that like again like one of those names that's
Speaker 2: been around and kind of dedicate you know, kind of
Speaker 2: you know, the majority of his life for that matter
Speaker 2: to you know, democracy and the country in that way.
Speaker 2: And so definitely a loss for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, you think about the generational turnover here, Lauren.
Speaker 1: That's something that you know a lot about having spent
Speaker 1: some time in Washington. This is a generation of leaders
Speaker 1: that we're quickly losing here in Washington and not replacing
Speaker 1: them always very well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, with Senator Lieberman, he was that same
Speaker 3: class where he was serving in the Senate with Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: He was serving in the Senate with my former boss,
Speaker 3: Saxby Chambliss, John McCain. You think about all of these names,
Speaker 3: and they served for a really long time as well,
Speaker 3: and it was a different age back then when they
Speaker 3: were on the Senate together. You know, there was a
Speaker 3: lot of bipartisanship, There was a lot of working together.
Speaker 3: They were all very friendly with one another. And so
Speaker 3: I think we talk about even the generational change of
Speaker 3: how the Senate is evolving with the new members that
Speaker 3: are coming in, and how populism and some of the
Speaker 3: politics of the day have kind of changed and made
Speaker 3: that bipartisanship a little less popular for members to pursue.
Speaker 3: Joe Lieberman's death I think gives us a glimpse to
Speaker 3: remember a time when people were still wanting to work
Speaker 3: together in that in the chamber.
Speaker 1: Despite his legacy as a veteran of the Democratic Party, Alvin,
Speaker 1: he's been given them crafts some adjective recently with this
Speaker 1: no Labels turn. He was one of the last remaining
Speaker 1: party code shares. If we can even call no Labels
Speaker 1: a party, it's really not. What was he trying to
Speaker 1: get done here? After all that time in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: Well, I think kind of what in essence the country
Speaker 2: is hoping for, which is just an opportunity to have
Speaker 2: a candidate that represents kind of a full picture of
Speaker 2: you know, obviously one one party in particular, but you know,
Speaker 2: a broader group, broader I think, approaching point of view
Speaker 2: for the country. And I think you know, part of
Speaker 2: you know, to Lawren's point, kind of that old guard
Speaker 2: is like, you know, how can we continue to work
Speaker 2: together or maneuver you know, kind of within around each
Speaker 2: other to actually get to something that helps us all.
Speaker 2: And so you know, I think on some level that
Speaker 2: had to be kind of one of those you know,
Speaker 2: guide intendants for him in that way. And so, you know,
Speaker 2: regardless of how he came across, I think that you know,
Speaker 2: people out of his camp would say that he was
Speaker 2: definitely kind of fight him for the greater democracy in
Speaker 2: that way, and I think that that's something that kind
Speaker 2: of always followed him regardless of it.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you see him though, as being well intended
Speaker 1: despite some real criticism.
Speaker 2: Sure, well intended for sure, maybe, but I think more
Speaker 2: so of just kind of the goal of like democracy
Speaker 2: being kind of at the forefront. And I think that
Speaker 2: can be respected, especially with some of the shenanigans we
Speaker 2: see coming from the Hill these days on a more
Speaker 2: consistent basis. It's one of those things where you can,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of look to see or some expect
Speaker 2: someone to be kind of where you know, you expect
Speaker 2: him to be, as opposed to kind of popping up
Speaker 2: all over the short and so in that way, I
Speaker 2: think that can be respected.
Speaker 1: Thoughts from Alvin Jordan and of course Lauren Tomlinson. With
Speaker 1: breaking news here on Bloomberg, Joe Lieberman has died. The
Speaker 1: former senator from Connecticut, former vice presidential nominee for the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, was eighty two years old.