1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington with breaking news as it 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: is now being reported that former Senator Joe Lieberman has died, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: most recently a national co chair to the No Labels Operation. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: We in fact just spoke with him last week about 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: their effort to get a candidate on the ballot to 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: run against Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Of course, a 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: long time veteran of the Democratic Party, although he served 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: as well as an independent. In his last cup of 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: coffee in the US Senate twenty four years in the 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: Upper Chamber, Lieberman of course also ran as a vice 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, the vice presidential nominee with Al Gore in 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: the year two thousand, thrown into, of course, one of 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the most remarkable recounts in modern presidential history. Joe Lieberman, 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: the gentleman from Connecticut, has died at eighty two. Joining 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: us now our political panel, Lauren Tomlinson is with US 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: partner at Steer pr and Alvin Jordan of Rock Solutions, 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: neither of whom were prepared to talk about this, but 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: that's the way things go. Alvin, his legacy in the 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, even though he ended his tenure as an independent, 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: would be described how I would. 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Just say as one of those titans, just like one 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: of the names that you know, kind of when you 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: come into the world of kind of policy and just 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: life on the hill. Just one of those names that 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: kind of sticks, right, you said the gentleman from Connecticut. 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: That was kind of my first thought. We were kind 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: of thinking about this or talking about this just a 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: quick second ago. And you know, I think just in 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: a year where we're starting to see you know, a 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: handful of people start to kind of bow out and retire, 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of the opposite with with leaving in the 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: sense that like again like one of those names that's 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: been around and kind of dedicate you know, kind of 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: you know, the majority of his life for that matter 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: to you know, democracy and the country in that way. 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: And so definitely a loss for sure. 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, you think about the generational turnover here, Lauren. 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: That's something that you know a lot about having spent 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: some time in Washington. This is a generation of leaders 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: that we're quickly losing here in Washington and not replacing 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: them always very well. 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, with Senator Lieberman, he was that same 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: class where he was serving in the Senate with Joe Biden. 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: He was serving in the Senate with my former boss, 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: Saxby Chambliss, John McCain. You think about all of these names, 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: and they served for a really long time as well, 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: and it was a different age back then when they 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: were on the Senate together. You know, there was a 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: lot of bipartisanship, There was a lot of working together. 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: They were all very friendly with one another. And so 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: I think we talk about even the generational change of 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: how the Senate is evolving with the new members that 54 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: are coming in, and how populism and some of the 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 3: politics of the day have kind of changed and made 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: that bipartisanship a little less popular for members to pursue. 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: Joe Lieberman's death I think gives us a glimpse to 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: remember a time when people were still wanting to work 59 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: together in that in the chamber. 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Despite his legacy as a veteran of the Democratic Party, Alvin, 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: he's been given them crafts some adjective recently with this 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: no Labels turn. He was one of the last remaining 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: party code shares. If we can even call no Labels 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: a party, it's really not. What was he trying to 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: get done here? After all that time in the Democratic Party. 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think kind of what in essence the country 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: is hoping for, which is just an opportunity to have 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: a candidate that represents kind of a full picture of 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, obviously one one party in particular, but you know, 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: a broader group, broader I think, approaching point of view 71 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: for the country. And I think you know, part of 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, to Lawren's point, kind of that old guard 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: is like, you know, how can we continue to work 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: together or maneuver you know, kind of within around each 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: other to actually get to something that helps us all. 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: And so you know, I think on some level that 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: had to be kind of one of those you know, 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: guide intendants for him in that way. And so, you know, 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: regardless of how he came across, I think that you know, 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: people out of his camp would say that he was 81 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: definitely kind of fight him for the greater democracy in 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: that way, and I think that that's something that kind 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: of always followed him regardless of it. 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Sounds like you see him though, as being well intended 85 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: despite some real criticism. 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Sure, well intended for sure, maybe, but I think more 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: so of just kind of the goal of like democracy 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: being kind of at the forefront. And I think that 89 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: can be respected, especially with some of the shenanigans we 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: see coming from the Hill these days on a more 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: consistent basis. It's one of those things where you can, 92 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, kind of look to see or some expect 93 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: someone to be kind of where you know, you expect 94 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: him to be, as opposed to kind of popping up 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: all over the short and so in that way, I 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: think that can be respected. 97 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Thoughts from Alvin Jordan and of course Lauren Tomlinson. With 98 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: breaking news here on Bloomberg, Joe Lieberman has died. The 99 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: former senator from Connecticut, former vice presidential nominee for the 100 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, was eighty two years old.