Speaker 1: Coming up. Keep it positive, sweetie. I do try to
Speaker 1: tell my story because I know there are people who
Speaker 1: mess up and they do these things and I let
Speaker 1: them know. Like, look, yeah, when I moved to LA,
Speaker 1: I was on probation. Yeah, I continue to follow the
Speaker 1: things and not get in trouble. So I did get
Speaker 1: off early. But when I moved out there, I was
Speaker 1: not off. And one mistake doesn't determine your path. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Like you can you not your one mistake?
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Christine Hazel and this is keep it positive, sweetie,
Speaker 2: a safe face to heal, laugh or grow and love.
Speaker 2: Speaking of love, telling how our new season is moving along.
Speaker 2: And I'm also loving to see the glow up of
Speaker 2: today's guest actress, writer, producer Gail Bean. And if you
Speaker 2: like me, you've enjoyed watching naacp Image Award winning actress
Speaker 2: Gail Bean Grace of TV on hit shows like Snowfall
Speaker 2: in p Valley. Gail has made an incredible mark on
Speaker 2: screen and offscreen, with an impact just as impressive as
Speaker 2: the areas of community service and political activism.
Speaker 1: Gailban's reach is wide.
Speaker 2: She is such a busy woman, but I'm so glad
Speaker 2: she found time today to keep it positive with me.
Speaker 1: Gil, thank you so much for pulling up on me.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Oh Man, Crystal, anything for you. We've
Speaker 1: been trying to get you here, so we got you.
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to come. I'm like, okay, we got
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make this work. Yeah, lo,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm happy. I was so excited this couch. Honey, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the so me and my friend Brittany Hall
Speaker 1: used to live together in La. We caught our house
Speaker 1: the booked and busy house. Really, everybody, if you come
Speaker 1: in to booked in busy house, you're gonna gave out
Speaker 1: here with blessing. I know that's right. This couch is
Speaker 1: the blessing couch. So I'm going to leave out here
Speaker 1: with all the blessings out. Yes, it's already on you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, it's on you. You're glowing you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Before let's go back to before I even knew who
Speaker 2: you were like in person.
Speaker 1: I loved you.
Speaker 2: On Snowfall and I was just like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: the way you just embody your character and you were vulnerable,
Speaker 2: like I just fell in love with your artistry. And
Speaker 2: then I got to meet you and we did a
Speaker 2: panel at Shiloh High School remember that.
Speaker 1: Yes, Kirsen was captain of the cheerlead. Yes, and she
Speaker 1: put together the whole anti bullying social like I don't
Speaker 1: even remember the name of it, but when it was
Speaker 1: about like social anxiety for the students for the community
Speaker 1: of Shallahato, Oh yeah, that was so dope.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, And that's when I really got to see
Speaker 2: your heart and how you came back. You're from here
Speaker 2: and you like still was like active in the community.
Speaker 2: I was like, I like this girl, And ever since
Speaker 2: then we've been like this like.
Speaker 1: That, like listen, I was an avid Sisters watching and
Speaker 1: you was the one. I was like, oh, she mean
Speaker 1: because you kept a professional at work. But then it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, there's another side, a whole other side.
Speaker 1: There's like you guys work with me, but you don't
Speaker 1: know me. Yeah, right, So that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's me and I love her.
Speaker 2: So many women stopping like I'm Fatima, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mess a line. I'm real, you mess with mine,
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 2: I'm really like protective of my people, like you gotta
Speaker 2: be more more calculated now that we're like in the light.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, yeah, sometimes I'll be forgetting.
Speaker 1: I'm like what Yeah, when that's that, the people around
Speaker 1: you will keep you. No, we're not doing that no more.
Speaker 1: Let the Lord handle it, you know, let them handle it. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: with those things do happen.
Speaker 2: I've always noticed, like whatever ends of happening as far
Speaker 2: as karma, Yeah, let God handle it, because it's like
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like that. But that was perfect for you. You
Speaker 1: needed that. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: Something else I love about you is how vulnerable and
Speaker 2: just transparent you are. You're just like a girl's girl.
Speaker 2: When I met you, I was like, because you know,
Speaker 2: you never know what you're gonna get with just the
Speaker 2: people in entertainment. I don't want to say actors, you
Speaker 2: do not know what you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Get with people. Now that like social media and YouTube
Speaker 1: has become such a thing in Twitch and so many
Speaker 1: other different platforms, it's not even just in an entertainment industry.
Speaker 1: It's just people period period. Don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 1: get with you, even people who don't do anything what
Speaker 1: they aspire to do. Stuff. It's like sometimes they think
Speaker 1: you might be a certain way, so they come off.
Speaker 2: A certain way, yes, and then they get something like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're not what I thought.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I tell people all the time, I'm
Speaker 1: a reflection of you. So if you see something in
Speaker 1: me and it's like, oh my gosh, she's great, she's amazing,
Speaker 1: that's because you were great, amazing, because I get what
Speaker 1: I get. That's right. Yeah, I'm like, the energy is bad.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me just slide on over here, because
Speaker 1: you don't want me to match it. Friend, let's not
Speaker 1: go there. Let's keep it positive exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Take me down memory lane because you're from What part
Speaker 2: of Atlanta are you from?
Speaker 1: Because you know there's so many they're not Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, where are you from?
Speaker 1: From the east Side. I'm from Stone Mountain. Okay, Metro,
Speaker 1: there we go. Metro makes up Atlanta. I tell people
Speaker 1: Atlanta would not be nothing without the Metro, it would
Speaker 1: not be So I'm from Mountain. I'm from the East Side.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Main Street. Okay.
Speaker 2: Did you always want to be an actor or was
Speaker 2: that something that came on later.
Speaker 1: No, I wanted to so I first wanted to be
Speaker 1: a hairstylist. No, I first wanted to be a photographer,
Speaker 1: then a hairstylist, then a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, then the
Speaker 1: female Johnny cockran saw a lawyer, and then I decided
Speaker 1: I wanted to just go with God and act. And
Speaker 1: it was like, I want my career to be a
Speaker 1: reflection of God. I want people to say, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: no way she could have done this, that this is
Speaker 1: not her, this is God. And I was like, I know,
Speaker 1: I could like kill law, anything dealing with education where
Speaker 1: you got to study and research and learn, Like that's me.
Speaker 1: I'm a sponge, I know. I mean I can't do hair.
Speaker 1: So clearly that was a reer path that didn't choose me.
Speaker 1: I could do my hair, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: lot of people. They could do their hair and their
Speaker 1: makeup and they could style themselves. But it's like, maybe
Speaker 1: it's different. This ain't your it's not your ministry. But
Speaker 1: it's okay because it's great on you. But then when
Speaker 1: it comes to getting into doing it for other people,
Speaker 1: it's that same passion. Isn't there, that same understanding? Isn't
Speaker 1: there that same attention and care So hair was it? No, Yeah, photography,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty fih at it. So I think that will
Speaker 1: come into place when it comes to like directing. Yeah
Speaker 1: stuff and yeah, I mean that was cowboys cheer is
Speaker 1: I'm a satitariut So my money, girl, like I can't
Speaker 1: funds is not that they don't get Yeah, so you though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to act. I just I thoroughly
Speaker 1: loved it. I had a passion for it. My senior
Speaker 1: year when I took a class. My mom, she's an educator.
Speaker 1: Well she's a retired educator. Yes, she taed in high
Speaker 1: school and she wanted me to go to college. So
Speaker 1: my senior year we weren't getting college letters. She was like,
Speaker 1: what's what's happening. I was like, Oh, I didn't apply
Speaker 1: because I'm going to move.
Speaker 3: To LA And she was like, no, you go to
Speaker 3: school because yeah, continue in your education.
Speaker 1: So I had to go to college. And then after college,
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything dealing with acting. I study accounting
Speaker 1: and finance. I was a double major. I studied abroad
Speaker 1: for business finance. Wow in Germany, Are you serious? That's incredible?
Speaker 1: Collegood University. What loved it?
Speaker 2: When you say you were like a sponge. You really
Speaker 2: loved Yes, education, that is amazing, loved it.
Speaker 1: I was a student government chair, com a Delta, so
Speaker 1: I did all the college things and then I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, mom, I graduated, I want to move to
Speaker 1: la And wow, was she like go ahead? Did she
Speaker 1: give you that blessed? Like you don't have a plan?
Speaker 1: So she was. She was such a mom I which
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for. It was such a mom and like
Speaker 1: an old school mom, like you've never been on the
Speaker 1: other side of the world. You don't have a plan.
Speaker 1: So I was like okay. I asked like three times.
Speaker 1: First was before college, second was like when I was
Speaker 1: trying to drop out and go, and then third was
Speaker 1: after So I was like, okay, I get it. I
Speaker 1: need plan. So then I developed a plan and then
Speaker 1: she when I had a plan, she was behind it right.
Speaker 1: So that's amazing. I love that.
Speaker 2: My parents will say where they were like all right, girl,
Speaker 2: So I was. I went to school in my hometown
Speaker 2: in Martin, Tennessee, and then after college I got a
Speaker 2: job on Capitol Hill in DC. They're like, yes, girlgo
Speaker 2: but I actually wanted to do acting and singing and
Speaker 2: I had all these big passions that I wanted to do,
Speaker 2: but they're like, you need to get an education. They
Speaker 2: always instilled do what you want to do, but have
Speaker 2: something to fall back on. Yeah, And I'm so grateful
Speaker 2: for that now because they asked you, like, when we
Speaker 2: do certain things, it's like your latest degree that you've
Speaker 2: got them. Like, Wow, to actually be able to put
Speaker 2: that I do have a degree. It is important and
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a lot of times. But
Speaker 2: I'm grateful now that they instilled those things in me
Speaker 2: to have something to fall back on.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm so proud of you. Proud of you. D C.
Speaker 1: Oh my, he is like, uh Atlanta with standards, it's elevated.
Speaker 2: I love that Atlantas.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So of course you would come here and thrive.
Speaker 1: You made it in d C.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where I found myself. Actually, I am
Speaker 2: being from a small town. I went to d C.
Speaker 2: I'm from a town where we speak to everybody in
Speaker 2: the morning. If you're it's like a two lane road,
Speaker 2: not even a highway, a road where we're driving past
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: You wave, you don't know who's in the car. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like that's where I'm from. So I moved to
Speaker 1: d C.
Speaker 2: I'm like, good morning, and that like look like I
Speaker 2: got horns growing out of my head. I'm like, don't
Speaker 2: speak to each other. So in DC I learned self awareness.
Speaker 2: I learned to just tunnel vision focus, worry about yourself,
Speaker 2: don't worry about everybody.
Speaker 1: Coming from yes here where I speak to everybody and
Speaker 1: everybody speaks back. And it's just common courtesy in southern
Speaker 1: hospitality to speaking to people. And it was like, why
Speaker 1: are you talking to me? Literally? What can you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Oh? I question me to I'm like, TI,
Speaker 1: how are you? How was your day? Good morning? Start
Speaker 1: let's start there, Like, girl, I had somebod.
Speaker 2: I was at the Hats game last season and a
Speaker 2: young lady was sitting in front of me, and I
Speaker 2: guess I just looked like I did something and she
Speaker 2: turned and she goes, she goes, what do you do?
Speaker 2: And I said, Hi, I'm Crystal, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: And she said I'm good. I said, don't ever lead
Speaker 2: a conversation with that question. Yeah, I said, it's so
Speaker 2: off putting, and she goes, I'm so sorry. I was like,
Speaker 2: if I saw you, like the first thing I asked.
Speaker 1: You is what do you do? Yeah, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: people obviously know you, so why do I need to
Speaker 1: know you? Yeah, that's basically why are you important? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that's I was like, Oh, because I'm human, because
Speaker 1: I'm breathing. Instead of the southerness of you are here,
Speaker 1: you matter, I'm acknowledgy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, y'all want to get to know you better? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I see everybody coming up and not really familiar. What's
Speaker 2: your name? Okay, well how can I how.
Speaker 1: Can I support? How I can check you out?
Speaker 2: There's a way to get around to what I do.
Speaker 1: But I was like, girl, my mama always said, it's
Speaker 1: not what you say, is how you say it?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, that is so true. So you get to
Speaker 2: LA and everybody's not speaking. What was was that whole already?
Speaker 1: Like I get to LA, everybody's not speaking. They're charging
Speaker 1: me for bags, They're charging me.
Speaker 4: For a bottle of water like a traditional okay, bottle
Speaker 4: of waters.
Speaker 1: The parking is like really weird. Where you got to
Speaker 1: like move your car and all these tickets. The traffic
Speaker 1: is twenty four hours. I was confused. I was confused.
Speaker 1: I remember specifically telling my family I have traveled around
Speaker 1: the world, and I've never been culture shocked until like
Speaker 1: it was a culture shop. It was very jarring, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I love the weather, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: because I moved early, so I love before global warming
Speaker 1: got crazy. I love the weather and I love the scenery.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's so beautiful. It is so
Speaker 1: they had it was like, okay, y'all got me a
Speaker 1: hello whatever. Yes, but I got there with the intention
Speaker 1: and Okay, I want to move here just to get
Speaker 1: big enough to live wherever I want and to be
Speaker 1: able to work from wherever in the world. I want
Speaker 1: to specifically be in La so I can book work
Speaker 1: not in La yea yeah, yeah, like I would love
Speaker 1: to work in La but book work while I no
Speaker 1: longer live here. I don't have to be here. I
Speaker 1: don't have to be in everybody's face like they know me,
Speaker 1: they know my work. I want to gain notoriety. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then I'm out wow. Yeah. And then COVID happen.
Speaker 1: Oh so that was right around that time. Yeah, had
Speaker 1: you even like booked anything before COVID? Well, I moved
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, so I stayed there, and then COVID happened.
Speaker 1: And then that's when I left. Okay, And at that
Speaker 1: time my reps I got. I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: well whenever nobody knew when the industry was going to
Speaker 1: shake back. Yeah, and so they were kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good, you can you can stay there and you
Speaker 1: don't have to move back. They'll just fly you in
Speaker 1: there'll put you up. I was again, yes, yes, so
Speaker 1: I just stay and moved back and then like, now
Speaker 1: I live in New York. I moved to New York
Speaker 1: last October. Yes, I remember that. Yeah, how are you
Speaker 1: adjusting in New York? New York was for me, this girl,
Speaker 1: can I do it? When I first moved to l A,
Speaker 1: I originally wanted to move to New York, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't afford it.
Speaker 2: It's well both it is New York, LA more less
Speaker 2: is cheaper than New York, is more expensive than l A.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow you get less for more, gotcha? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're willing to make that sacrifice. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: good now. God, it's good because here's a lot of sacrifice,
Speaker 1: no more to make the elevation. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a testimony.
Speaker 1: It's not a sacrifice. It's not beautiful.
Speaker 2: So how how long was it before you got your
Speaker 2: first yees from the moment you said, Mom, I'm going
Speaker 2: to LA for real this time.
Speaker 1: Okay. So I got there August first, twenty thirteen. I
Speaker 1: buked unexpected August twenty fourteen. A year, yeah, a year
Speaker 1: for that first year year, but I was head down
Speaker 1: grinding good was.
Speaker 2: What was the drive for that persistence was because I
Speaker 2: told my mom, I'm going and I'm gonna make this
Speaker 2: thing happen.
Speaker 1: No, girl, That was my first time like really being
Speaker 1: somewhere on my own. Like even when I studied abroad,
Speaker 1: I knew people in the business, but like my lone
Speaker 1: sister was over there studying abroad with me, so I
Speaker 1: had friends and stuff there. This was like real deal
Speaker 1: relocate on my own and my dude was here, my
Speaker 1: family's here, like my friends are here. I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: all my stuff is here. It was uncomfortable. It was
Speaker 1: like excruciating, like skinning peeling uncomfortable. So I was like
Speaker 1: yeah no. And then I had a friend tell me,
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't make it, like don't feel
Speaker 1: you got to stay out there and struggle. You can
Speaker 1: always come back, and I was like, nah, friend, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make it like we're good, we need we don't
Speaker 1: need a plan B. So that I believed it and
Speaker 1: new without a doubt that I would gain success there.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: It's really weird because I have like this really great
Speaker 1: relationship with God and the ancestors. Yeah, and they talked
Speaker 1: to me like they give me signs and like how
Speaker 1: you like when the people talking they like example, I
Speaker 1: wish no scared of hell. I'm like, all right, now,
Speaker 1: don't do that, but you know, don't do that, don't
Speaker 1: talk to me but no, So like I'll ask, I'll
Speaker 1: ask questions and all the answers I'll say, you know,
Speaker 1: like let me know. And I'm I'm real upfront with God,
Speaker 1: like don't give me no half sign you know me,
Speaker 1: like like I need an obvious slap me in the
Speaker 1: face of time. Yes. So I was like, should I
Speaker 1: go to l A right because I had planned on
Speaker 1: going h but then my brandma had a stroke and
Speaker 1: it was a really bad stroke, and it was it
Speaker 1: was closer to the time where I was supposed to go,
Speaker 1: and I was a little nervous and a little scared
Speaker 1: and not really wanting to go to La like I
Speaker 1: wanted to go. But then when it got real, I
Speaker 1: was like looking for a reason or yeah maybe I
Speaker 1: was just like so I was like, my mom was
Speaker 1: like going crazy. It was so bad. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm not supposed to go.
Speaker 1: It's okay. Literally she did at one eddy wow yeah,
Speaker 1: saying go yes. So I said okay, because I was
Speaker 1: going to go there for a month and and stay
Speaker 1: for a month. And this was my plan because my
Speaker 1: mom said I needed a plan. So the plan was
Speaker 1: go to LA for a month from June fourteenth to
Speaker 1: July fourteenth, and then move in October. So I was
Speaker 1: on probation at the time. In my probation ended in October,
Speaker 1: so I was like moving ended October first. I was
Speaker 1: gonna move October first. Originally the plan was to go
Speaker 1: June first to July first. My brandma had a stroke
Speaker 1: somewhere in long that time, and then by June fourteen
Speaker 1: she was good. So I bought the ticket, went June
Speaker 1: fourteenth to July fourteen. When I got out there, everything
Speaker 1: just fell in place. I ended up getting a job.
Speaker 1: Now this hat to be in there like two days
Speaker 1: while I'm on a one month visit. Wow. I had
Speaker 1: a round trip ticket. So then I lied and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I live here, but I just got to go home
Speaker 1: and get my stuff and finish moving. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: when do you come back? I said, August first. I
Speaker 1: always asked friends for a buddy pass, they never have them.
Speaker 1: So I asked three people. All three people said yes,
Speaker 1: they had a buddy pass for me to go back
Speaker 1: and on August first. Wow. Because I didn't have enough
Speaker 1: money to like really buy a teen like not that soon.
Speaker 1: I needed to plan. Yeah. So I was like, this
Speaker 1: is crazy. But that's like when God and the answer
Speaker 1: to speak to me. That's like okay here and I say,
Speaker 1: you know, well, what is it? I ask questions and
Speaker 1: that's how they kind of like give me answers or
Speaker 1: they provide answers to other people. Like someone may say
Speaker 1: something to me, don't know me from a campaign, but
Speaker 1: it's the answer to my question. Yeah, And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the answers are using them or God is using them,
Speaker 1: and that's how they talk to me. Wow.
Speaker 2: I love that because I do we hearing God talk
Speaker 2: to me to Like I asked, how God talk to
Speaker 2: you you'd be like he was like girl in the list,
Speaker 2: I'm ticking tired and tell.
Speaker 5: You what I told you. I'm like, all right, it's okay,
Speaker 5: no judge, you know.
Speaker 2: But I get on his nerves sometimes because like he
Speaker 2: has to tell me things. I'm the type of person
Speaker 2: I'll pray for a sign and I'll see it that
Speaker 2: used to be me, though, like I need another one
Speaker 2: that used to be and now like he literally when
Speaker 2: I talk to him now, a journal in my prayer
Speaker 2: for my prayers and like, oh my God, send me
Speaker 2: a clear sign on this. I need clarity on this.
Speaker 2: And like literally within the same day, the person or
Speaker 2: whatever the situation is that I'm needing guidance, sign reveals it.
Speaker 2: Whether it's the affirmation I needed or it's a sign
Speaker 2: to move on from this. I'm like, yeah, it's so clear.
Speaker 1: Now it's so crazy because okay, Like I'll give you
Speaker 1: a recent example. I did a give back event Saturday,
Speaker 1: Saturday morning from twelve to four, and there was a
Speaker 1: pastor there. My friend, a girl who was in my
Speaker 1: acting class when I was hearing Atlanta twenty twelve, she came.
Speaker 1: She brought her pastors. She bought another one of her
Speaker 1: friends and their children, and he spoke a word over
Speaker 1: me that, so you know, there's a Snowfalls beIN off
Speaker 1: and it's been in limbo. I've been hearing about yes,
Speaker 1: we don't know we need that when he was hearing.
Speaker 1: But then they're like, it's right there on the one
Speaker 1: yard line. We're gonna try, but we don't know if
Speaker 1: we shoot it and start shooting January, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: why should in Pea Valley. There have been four projects
Speaker 1: that I missed that on at the office and couldn't
Speaker 1: do them, and I'm like, okay, okay, yea. But my
Speaker 1: reps did tell me like they don't think that the
Speaker 1: Snowfall spin off is gonna go, because if they're saying
Speaker 1: it's stuck on the one yard line and you know,
Speaker 1: they're really trying and it's just they don't know what
Speaker 1: it is to get to tweet the script, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep trying. And my reps were like, that means
Speaker 1: it's more than like you, it's not gonna go. So
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm working really hard and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're coming to the end of p Valley. I don't
Speaker 1: have more work because you know, it's always about the
Speaker 1: next I don't have more work for twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and so the man and I've been working in the
Speaker 1: past twenty This is my second day off in the
Speaker 1: past twenty one days. Wow. So I worked twenty one
Speaker 1: days straight because on the weekends we had something like
Speaker 1: I had to go to La for Black Love. Something
Speaker 1: has to go do something. So my friends past rest
Speaker 1: in Peace, Brown thank you, and her funeral was yesterday,
Speaker 1: so it was for me to have my first day
Speaker 1: off and then I was like, okay, but but God
Speaker 1: knew the way it was just even a line like
Speaker 1: I needed a moment I needed, I needed a rest.
Speaker 1: So to be able to go be with like people
Speaker 1: I loved dearly was just very beautiful. And then to
Speaker 1: be able to come do this was like, but it's
Speaker 1: so crazy because it was literally twenty one days straight
Speaker 1: that I've worked and then those were my two days off.
Speaker 1: These are my two days off. Wow. And then like
Speaker 1: I go back to work tomorrow, I'm working the whole week.
Speaker 1: We have our market to shoot this weekend, so I'm
Speaker 1: working the weekend. So it's like, but it was a
Speaker 1: nice run. But at the event Saturday. The pastor was like,
Speaker 1: h the girl came. She said, my pastor wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you something. I said, okay, sure, and he came
Speaker 1: to talk to me and he has like a slight
Speaker 1: speech impediment, but it was clear. It was so clear.
Speaker 1: It was like, don't know him from a campaign, never
Speaker 1: met him before. He was like, the opportunity that you
Speaker 1: think you missing out on, God got something bigger. God
Speaker 1: got something so bigger, the opportunities you think you missing
Speaker 1: out on. This, God got something so bigger. And told
Speaker 1: me to tell you not to worry that it's all coming.
Speaker 1: Everything is lining up and it's so big. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be bigger than anything you've ever done, and bigger than
Speaker 1: you can imagine. I was like, Then, Samuel Jackson sent
Speaker 1: me a DM and said, I'm working on putting us
Speaker 1: in something. See he's working on something for us. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was just trying. I was just He said,
Speaker 1: I know it's been hard, and that's like, I know
Speaker 1: it's been hard. I know you're feeling restless, yes, but
Speaker 1: it's because I got off work one morning I had
Speaker 1: that thing. I got off work at five. I left
Speaker 1: a lot at five thirty seven I had to beat
Speaker 1: up at seven am to get the rest of the
Speaker 1: stuff that we were distributing. The event was from twelve
Speaker 1: to four that day and he don't know me from
Speaker 1: candapign that day. Literally got off at five thirty seven,
Speaker 1: got up at seven, went to the Burlington, had to
Speaker 1: be there at nine to pick up the other coats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was at the wrong Burlington. So my sister in
Speaker 1: law had went the night before pulled all the stuff,
Speaker 1: so I was just going to buy. Yeah, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: let her use my check. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I was at the wrong Burlington. Oh no, I shoot
Speaker 1: to the other one. I left my wallet and the
Speaker 1: other brothers, oh don't. I said, it's okay because I
Speaker 1: have my ID and I have the check. The check
Speaker 1: when I authorized what I had to go to the
Speaker 1: Wells Fargo. I got the money out, went paid for it,
Speaker 1: then went to Sam to get the snacks and stuff
Speaker 1: forgiven for the kids. Checks still wouldn't work. They also went,
Speaker 1: let me use my mother's membership. Devil was working. So
Speaker 1: then I go, okay, let's just add me to the membership.
Speaker 1: It's like this whole thing. I was like, please, y'all listen,
Speaker 1: you know in the inside, you breaking like you are breaking.
Speaker 1: I'm already tired and I'm tired, sleepy, exhausted. So I
Speaker 1: had canceled. I called Tea. I was like, you to
Speaker 1: cancel the glam because I'm not getting up at six.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get home at six. I need to
Speaker 1: go to take an hour and a half hour now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So finally they do the membership to check one work.
Speaker 1: So I had the cash that I got from the bank.
Speaker 1: I pay, I go outside right like pushing the bugget.
Speaker 1: I go exactly where I parked the car. I can't
Speaker 1: find I go. I was like, I can't find a car.
Speaker 1: I can't. I was literally gonna have a breakdown, a
Speaker 1: mental breakdown in the parking line, just being overwhelmed. And
Speaker 1: I was like, it's too much. I was like, guy,
Speaker 1: it's too much. I can't. I cannot, like I cannot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I had prayed the guy I asked. I was like, God,
Speaker 1: please help me miss Brown. And I felt it was
Speaker 1: so selfish a mean to even call on her, because
Speaker 1: like she has children who are missing her. I was like,
Speaker 1: please just help me, just help me, Like, please go girl.
Speaker 1: While I look up I'm literally standing behind the car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just yeah, you were at the moment. I didn't
Speaker 1: see it though, because I thought I was in the
Speaker 1: truck that I normally dry, but I was in my
Speaker 1: brother in them traverse. I was right here, no parts right.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's too much, what's happening right now?
Speaker 1: And then I had took a breath and I prayed
Speaker 1: and I was like, God help me. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: look up and I was staying there He's right here. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I love that though.
Speaker 2: I feel like there is a symbolic of God when
Speaker 2: we're like frustrated, like what is going on and he's
Speaker 2: like I'm right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in the car.
Speaker 2: It could be like sybol like a God, like you're
Speaker 2: looking for me and I'm right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even in the stress and like you got so
Speaker 1: much going on even but the beauty was like that
Speaker 1: is when things like that happen, I know that's the ancestors.
Speaker 1: I know that's God. So that's the way that God
Speaker 1: and ancestors talk to me. It is it's like so
Speaker 1: many little things. So yeah, when the pastor said that
Speaker 1: he didn't know about my day, Yeah, he didn't know
Speaker 1: none of that. When I got that d M from
Speaker 1: Sam Jay, I was like, what Okay, Yes, yes, that
Speaker 1: is incredible. Yeah, it's it's those things. It's those moments
Speaker 1: when I know God answers talking to that.
Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned when you moved to LA
Speaker 2: that you were on probation. What you do well, what
Speaker 2: she said, got a lot of good redemption story. There's
Speaker 2: something that we can maybe share to like help young women.
Speaker 1: Amen. Honestly, at the time, this was a time I
Speaker 1: actually didn't do nothing. Wow. I was in Georgia Southern.
Speaker 1: I was in Statesboro at Georgia Southern, visiting while I
Speaker 1: was in college at Valdosta. And I went down there.
Speaker 2: Y'all homecomings be proper. Georgia Southern homecoming. I've been there before.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I went to Valdosta, what is it, Eagle?
Speaker 1: My mom went to Georgia Southern. Okay, y'all don't know what. Okay,
Speaker 1: I year, but my mom went there, and I was
Speaker 1: going down for my friend's birthday. And we drove down
Speaker 1: from Valdosta. I had accidentally left my license in Valdosta,
Speaker 1: so we went out at night. I had a good time.
Speaker 1: I left my clothes at my homegirl house. She stayed
Speaker 1: in an apartment complex, and when I got there, there
Speaker 1: was a fight going on. It did not involve me.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a fighter, yeah, but normally it would have
Speaker 1: been me, but I was not all. I was actually innocent.
Speaker 1: Design So I'd go to try to get my stuff
Speaker 1: from her house and the police pulled into the parking lot.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what me, let's just go.
Speaker 1: Were good, So we walk into the car. I just
Speaker 1: don't deal with police. We walk into the car. They
Speaker 1: try to stop me, asked my name as my identification.
Speaker 1: I obviously didn't have anything, so I told him my
Speaker 1: name and I was like, I ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with whatever reason y'all are here. We just came
Speaker 1: from an event. We're trying to leave and go where
Speaker 1: we're supposed to stay to night at because I was like,
Speaker 1: forget the closed with bars and clothes from the right.
Speaker 1: We get in the car. I let her drive because
Speaker 1: she had her license. She I haven't been drinking too,
Speaker 1: So she gets in the front seat. I get in
Speaker 1: the back seat. I shut the car door. They opened
Speaker 1: the car door and try to pull me out. What yeah, no,
Speaker 1: So I snatched back and I shut the car door
Speaker 1: doing that. The second time she opens the car door,
Speaker 1: she pulls my arm and she slams the car door
Speaker 1: on my arm. I had a big ass bruce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was bad. So again, I haven't drinking and I
Speaker 1: was a fighter. Was yeah delivered, Yeah, I'm delivered. I
Speaker 1: get out the car, and I mean a fighter. I
Speaker 1: fought the officer, but she had to come in at
Speaker 1: that point. She did, she did, she did, and so
Speaker 1: then her partner tried to taste me and my friend
Speaker 1: stopped it. It was like if your partner can't handle
Speaker 1: one hundred pound girl. Yeah, So then another male. It
Speaker 1: was two women officers. Then the mail officer comes and
Speaker 1: he tries to stop it, and he's like, ma'am, get up,
Speaker 1: because at that point she was on the house on
Speaker 1: top of it was a problem, but like you literally
Speaker 1: this is the childish thing to say, but she literally
Speaker 1: started it. Yeah. So they were like, we got to
Speaker 1: take you to jail. Oh my god. So they took
Speaker 1: me to jail. They did not allow me a phone
Speaker 1: call because they said I hit the officer. Yeah. Thankfully.
Speaker 1: My granddaddy was a Bell's bondsman. So when he finally
Speaker 1: got words but it took a minute because I didn't
Speaker 1: get a call. So like my friend, she didn't know
Speaker 1: the call to my phone, so she had to try
Speaker 1: to call around find people fail for like a week.
Speaker 1: What yeah, oh my god, Yeah they come up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was a thing. So that's some felonies
Speaker 1: and stuff from that. But we got a lawyer. They
Speaker 1: let them know like, hey, she's got great grade, she said, bride,
Speaker 1: like she's on track to graduate all these things, and
Speaker 1: they put me on the I play it down. They
Speaker 1: dropped everything to misdemeanors and I had to do five
Speaker 1: years probation. Wow. Yeah, so we're early release. We're good
Speaker 1: behavior early releases. Yeah. So that's why my early release
Speaker 1: would have been October first, and I could have moved.
Speaker 1: When I went to August, and I was just so pissed.
Speaker 1: I was like, Mom, I'm not going to keep letting
Speaker 1: these people control my life. Like God already aligned things.
Speaker 1: And my mom was so worried. Sometimes she didn't worry work.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm going and I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna continue to say I'm still in Georgia. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: continue to pay they money. Because he called these folks
Speaker 1: once some month, But I'm not not moving because of them.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowing them control over my life. No, Like
Speaker 1: I give you enough, but then when you you moved
Speaker 1: too much, it's like, okay, now I got to put
Speaker 1: my foot down. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I gave you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, that was my why I
Speaker 1: went to jail in States. Wow, and I ain't been
Speaker 1: back since. I love it, And look at you now.
Speaker 2: I love that because we all have like done things
Speaker 2: where we're like not proud of or circumstance having this.
Speaker 2: This wasn't even your fault, you know, and a lot
Speaker 2: of us have fallen into that, especially in our community,
Speaker 2: have our in jail right now for things that they
Speaker 2: didn't even they not even didn't do or wasn't even
Speaker 2: responsible for.
Speaker 1: So for you to show your story, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Because an officer got no no repercussions, like they said
Speaker 1: it was not her first time, but white lady, no repercussions. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's scary because that could have been completely different.
Speaker 1: It's scary because I know I'm not the first, and
Speaker 1: I knew I wouldn't last. Nope, exactly.
Speaker 2: So with your because you do a lot of outreach. Now,
Speaker 2: do you do anything in the justice system.
Speaker 1: I work sometimes with reform to speak out on about
Speaker 1: speak out about it. But I haven't like went to
Speaker 1: visit jails or talked to people who you know, you
Speaker 1: don't know who hasn't hasn't been in jail. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: So I just tell my story and there are people
Speaker 1: who it resonates with, but I haven't, like actually actively
Speaker 1: been in jail. I do try to tell my story
Speaker 1: because I know there are people who mess up and
Speaker 1: they do these things, and I let them know. Like, look, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I moved to LA I was on probation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I continue to follow the things and not get in trouble.
Speaker 1: So I did get off early. Yeah, when I moved
Speaker 1: out there, I was not off. And one mistake doesn't
Speaker 1: determine your path. Yeah no, it doesn't, Like you can
Speaker 1: you not your one mistake? Yeah that part? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I tell that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I love that, And I think what I also love
Speaker 2: about the industry we work in is that we can
Speaker 2: do things no matter what our past is. Because even
Speaker 2: I know at the studio, like we have plenty of
Speaker 2: guys who have felonies, that have done time, but they
Speaker 2: are very hard working, their integral they're amazing co workers.
Speaker 1: We feel safe. They what y'all need, Like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: got you. They was big at like hiring people who
Speaker 1: may have gotten out of jail and just giving them
Speaker 1: the chance and the opportunity to the same thing. Their
Speaker 1: second chance is so important, so important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And once he hears like, yo, he was liked up,
Speaker 2: he'll pull him aside, like get to know him better.
Speaker 1: What you need?
Speaker 2: Is everything good? How's your work environment going for you?
Speaker 1: And I love that. Yeah, that's that's the best part.
Speaker 2: Like for me, Like that's one of the perks of
Speaker 2: being in the entertainment industry because you can go past
Speaker 2: your pack, go beyond your past, yeah, yeah, and move on.
Speaker 1: And I think people don't talk about the perks enough.
Speaker 1: I think our entertainment industry gets such a bad rep
Speaker 1: of like people talking about the darkness and the downside
Speaker 1: of so much like yeah, and it discourages so many
Speaker 1: good people who are pure hearted. And it's like there
Speaker 1: are a lot of great things about this industry is yeah,
Speaker 1: really is what you're making and what you choose to
Speaker 1: focus on and put your energy into. But it's a
Speaker 1: lot of really amazing things in the entertainment industry. It is,
Speaker 1: it really is.
Speaker 3: Yes, so come on, not a park a set, but
Speaker 3: a park just so yeah, it'd be like, this is
Speaker 3: a drug free set, yes, in.
Speaker 1: Do right under God? That's the only drug.
Speaker 6: I like that, right under God. I like, hey bars, yes,
Speaker 6: I love that. So with your crazy business, First, thank
Speaker 6: you for even coming. I didn't realize you only had
Speaker 6: two days off and you spent.
Speaker 1: One of them with me. Thank you because I know
Speaker 1: how girl, I'm tired right now. You know some things
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, right like when it
Speaker 1: comes to your off days, something's feeding to you and
Speaker 1: something's draining. So I knew this would be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. How are you balancing it personal?
Speaker 2: Because I know sometimes before therapy I struggled with balancing
Speaker 2: my personal life in this career because I feel like
Speaker 2: you can pull us in so.
Speaker 1: Many different directions. We're like, oh my gosh, how do
Speaker 1: you balance it all? Really? Yeah? Like because Atlanta, Atlanta
Speaker 1: is whenever I'm in Atlanta, it's very very hard to
Speaker 1: balance because my family is here, my friends are here,
Speaker 1: like work is here, like there's going out is here,
Speaker 1: like there's all the things and I out like club out,
Speaker 1: but like going to the game. Yeah, so it's like
Speaker 1: but I'm still figuring it out, Like okay, well we're
Speaker 1: gonna sleep, y'all. Yes, like somebody who's want to date?
Speaker 1: You know? How's that? Like? Have you had time?
Speaker 2: Girls going?
Speaker 1: It's hard, it's just going. You know, I got my
Speaker 1: eye on somebody, Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, when the streets got their eye on somebody for you?
Speaker 1: Oh not your friends, not even like eyes where y'all
Speaker 1: keep them. I'm gonna keep my eyes when I keep them,
Speaker 1: I keep on y'all keeping on, keeping on.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about because I see every time
Speaker 2: you have like great platanic guy friends, do you feel
Speaker 2: like that's gonna have like some type of impact on
Speaker 2: your person relationship with your man men?
Speaker 1: Because you have such a great relationship with you guys,
Speaker 1: I feel like it just helps me weed out the
Speaker 1: bats because I have five older brothers really, so that's
Speaker 1: my comfort.
Speaker 2: I always see, what's the guy that was at the
Speaker 2: concept contrat. He's always with you, Yeah, he's always like yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: Always gonna be there for me. Guys, my male friends
Speaker 1: that are in my life, I see so much and
Speaker 1: I learned so much from them. It's so easy for
Speaker 1: me to identify who is not a good man, because
Speaker 1: the men in my life are great. So I can
Speaker 1: spot a red flag and be like, is this a
Speaker 1: red flag that, yeah, we can deal with. Is this
Speaker 1: a red flag that will go down and this is
Speaker 1: just a guard red flag, or is this like a
Speaker 1: real hard stop red flag, Like this is a red
Speaker 1: flag that's gonna be a constant later on in life.
Speaker 1: So I feel like they're not an issue. But if
Speaker 1: they're an issue for someone that's in my life, then
Speaker 1: you are problem.
Speaker 2: Come on, people my life, they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know them and they're not in no violation.
Speaker 1: Our relationship is strictly platonic. It's not they're not waiting
Speaker 1: on the waiting in the wings like. It ain't that.
Speaker 1: It ain't that. So if you're I get it. Some
Speaker 1: people have insecurities. Talk to me. I will be honest
Speaker 1: and upfront. We can communicate. And then if you can't
Speaker 1: get past the communication of my truth and you want
Speaker 1: to stick to whatever you delusion you've met in your head, sorry,
Speaker 1: well yeah, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you because I know for me, like
Speaker 2: I just started dating a guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, come on, yeah, yes, and it's fresh I think
Speaker 7: for the last year yep, unless I've been open to dating, okay,
Speaker 7: And it was really hard for me because who's here
Speaker 7: for me?
Speaker 2: Like what do you really want? And like we had
Speaker 2: to like look at this thing through a different lens. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, just being in the positions we're in, and
Speaker 2: I really feel good about this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I do. It's difficult because it's like, like you said,
Speaker 1: are you here for me? And do you really like me?
Speaker 1: Are you and are you going to be supportive? Or
Speaker 1: every time I have something great coming up, are you
Speaker 1: going to find some way to argue or thinking about
Speaker 1: you or like screw up my moment? Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: I don't do that to you.
Speaker 2: And then don't you like I see how you cheer
Speaker 2: everybody on? Yeah, so I can imagine how you would
Speaker 2: be be.
Speaker 1: A man girl. Girl. You know, it's hard. It's hard,
Speaker 1: especially finding someone who likes you for you and not
Speaker 1: what you can the light that you can bring to them, right,
Speaker 1: And it's hard then someone that you can take around
Speaker 1: other people, well, who's comfortable in the room where it's
Speaker 1: like you're not going to be a jerk to other people,
Speaker 1: or you're not going to feel like you need me
Speaker 1: to hold your hand through the crowd. Like no, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to forget about you. But we both need
Speaker 1: to be able to move. Yes, yes, or you it's
Speaker 1: okay if you don't come, but you can not You
Speaker 1: can't always not come because sometimes it's a moment where
Speaker 1: I need you to be there. I need to be
Speaker 1: able to look out and even if it's not, you know,
Speaker 1: we ain't got to be up under each other. I
Speaker 1: need I need that, I need that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: like everywhere I go, but moments where it's like I
Speaker 1: just need you. I've had the moments where it's like
Speaker 1: you call someone they're your peace right, So are you
Speaker 1: going to be my piece? Can this be mutual? Are
Speaker 1: we able to grow together? Like, because it's a sad
Speaker 1: thing when you got to stell on the person you
Speaker 1: both be stun with. It's safe, it's so sad, So
Speaker 1: we do this together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so true that I pray that the
Speaker 2: one you got your eye on it is all that
Speaker 2: you deserve it seriously, because you deserve that the way
Speaker 2: you support and like just love on everybody in your orbit.
Speaker 1: You you deserve that back. I'm serious. Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: better get it because I ain't. If I don't get
Speaker 1: it one day, listen, I'd be so low. I'd be too.
Speaker 2: That's why I was by myself all this time, because
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't. Yeah, and so I think
Speaker 2: now I'm set at a space where I can spot
Speaker 2: the bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, that's not for you date.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to, like because I used to be.
Speaker 2: In the house all the time and my friends, like
Speaker 2: christ you have to put yourself in the space of
Speaker 2: to even attract the type of man that you want.
Speaker 1: Where are you going?
Speaker 2: I'm like, nowhere, so he gonna be a door THATBD,
Speaker 2: he's gonna come to your door. I don't even open
Speaker 2: the door for the door that I tell them to
Speaker 2: drop it off and go and I grab when they
Speaker 2: out the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I don't know that, Like, you
Speaker 2: gotta get out and be more approachable because like, I'm
Speaker 2: a type of person I want to make eye cons
Speaker 2: with people because you know, like I feel like every
Speaker 2: time I go out it's like trying to just be
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, just so I.
Speaker 1: Can just get to where I'm going, and then you
Speaker 1: don't know who's single, who way, like I don't want
Speaker 1: don't I don't want.
Speaker 2: To, and then hear you before you know it, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh you know she talking.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. No. We took a picture. That was it.
Speaker 1: That's it. I don't even know that man last name. Literally,
Speaker 1: I don't even know his real name Instagram name.
Speaker 2: Like ye know, people will ship you with somebody real quick, no,
Speaker 2: real quick, and I'm like, what they did that to
Speaker 2: me recently with.
Speaker 1: Someone that works in.
Speaker 2: The industry as well that I'm really really good friends.
Speaker 2: But we're going to work on a project next year together.
Speaker 2: But like immediately we took a picture together and was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's her new bab. I'm like there is no way,
Speaker 2: like what like where I get it from?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I didn't make a comment that I
Speaker 1: take all my niggs at church, but like so now
Speaker 1: you take every nig gotta take the church. It's like that,
Speaker 1: like that's not anybody can get got, and I want
Speaker 1: everybody to get them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know if I bring you here, it's
Speaker 2: gonna help weed out everything because he's gonna starve that spirit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna come out, so you can't you can't play
Speaker 2: with God. So eventually it's gonna come out. So I
Speaker 2: have no problem with taking people there. But they were
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. Gir They was like, who
Speaker 2: she brought? Oh, that's got to be him. So then
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Well, y'all have no idea. That is
Speaker 2: not it.
Speaker 1: But I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: You just talked about your gift back, but you also
Speaker 2: have a foundation called dream above the influence?
Speaker 1: What inspired that? You know? I really think mindset is everything.
Speaker 1: And there's so many people that may grow up in poverty,
Speaker 1: I grow up in a neighborhood or an environment that
Speaker 1: is not conducive to what they want to dream, or
Speaker 1: have influences that they're not even necessarily negative influences. Yeah
Speaker 1: they could be around all athletes, but maybe they don't
Speaker 1: want to be an athlete. They want to be an engineer,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's important that people dream
Speaker 1: above their influences to know what you want. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you don't have to necessarily be and
Speaker 1: it's not just dreams, but it's personal of who you
Speaker 1: are as a person. But just what you have in
Speaker 1: the mindset and the life and the future you want
Speaker 1: for yourself, that it can be more than what your
Speaker 1: influences are around you. And then I also thoroughly believe,
Speaker 1: like I hate when people are like, oh, be around
Speaker 1: like minded individuals, but maybe you don't like the way
Speaker 1: that they treat others. Maybe they're not good people. Just
Speaker 1: because we got to say, just because we both act,
Speaker 1: don't mean we got to hang out, ma'am. Just because
Speaker 1: we both hangings don't mean we got to be friends.
Speaker 1: And it's like no, So I'm trying to more so
Speaker 1: encourage people to dream about the influence. Don't feel you
Speaker 1: got to be around like your twins, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they ain't the people who want and
Speaker 1: aspire the same things. You don't have to be that circle. No,
Speaker 1: me and my best friends, none of us do the
Speaker 1: same thing. And it's not intentional and we're great friends,
Speaker 1: but we all have our own mind. So it's really
Speaker 1: to try to encourage individuality, yes, and know that you
Speaker 1: can still be a part of a whole and be
Speaker 1: an individual. I love it. I love it. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: a little hot under these that can make yourself comes.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the Snowfall letter in Christ this
Speaker 1: is our She's a six rap gift and I just
Speaker 1: love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: That's fine, okay, So yes, So I want to know
Speaker 2: all the things I heard that you partnered with the
Speaker 2: Harris Waltz campaign.
Speaker 1: What was that like? Oh, you know, being a black
Speaker 1: woman seeing other things that VP Hairs is doing, just
Speaker 1: to be able to aid in any of that, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm a girl's girl, you are, so I'm all for
Speaker 1: the support. And it was I got a shout out
Speaker 1: to Congresswoman Nikima Williams because she is so like, come
Speaker 1: on girl me and moved she aka yes, but that's
Speaker 1: my sister for life. So she really kind of kicked
Speaker 1: things off with making sure that I'm always involved and
Speaker 1: if there's anything I ever want to be a part
Speaker 1: of being able to have a seat at the table
Speaker 1: that I went to Congressional Black Caucus in DC probably
Speaker 1: about three or four years ago, first time ever, had
Speaker 1: never heard of it at all. Yeah, it's a time
Speaker 1: a time. Ever since then, I've just been like, what
Speaker 1: can I do to help just people know about it
Speaker 1: and be able to know about their reps and the
Speaker 1: local level, and the laws and the states were said,
Speaker 1: just all of these different things that we don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't really teach us. Don't teach us about a
Speaker 1: million presidents. That's dead. Hello, but you're not teaching us
Speaker 1: about what's currently happening right now. True, you hide our
Speaker 1: actual Black African American history and you fill us up
Speaker 1: with social studies. That girl is not helping us be social.
Speaker 2: It is not at all at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. So no, it's nice to be
Speaker 1: a part of real history. Yes, right, like this is
Speaker 1: the history. This is us history that they're going to
Speaker 1: teach about in classes. So I'm just very enthusiastic. But
Speaker 1: everybody you vote, regis vote. I did. We did the
Speaker 1: Pea Valley premiere season two. I did a premier party
Speaker 1: year and I made it a whole weekend. We did
Speaker 1: an adult phild day, we registered people to vote. It
Speaker 1: was a whole thing. So this year, really getting people
Speaker 1: out to the polls and even early voting, yes, early voter. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I definitely voted because I cannot like I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people like my vote doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Yes it does, like it could have.
Speaker 2: When you look at the first election with Hillary and
Speaker 2: Donald Trump literally or president on b politic correct that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other president of other president.
Speaker 2: It was small margins that he won by if people
Speaker 2: had if those people who really wanted to vote for
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton had have really gotten up their helms or
Speaker 2: just take the time.
Speaker 1: It don't take that long. And then when voter suppression
Speaker 1: and how crazy it is, you had to vote in person,
Speaker 1: like you if absentee is your last resort, then okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I said go early vote. I say in person
Speaker 1: because they are really committing voter. It's just a lot
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just saw they had something on CNN where they're
Speaker 2: like some fraudulent stuff going on, and I was like, yeah, here.
Speaker 1: We go again, Here we go again, Here we go again. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's I try to tell people all the time
Speaker 2: when I hear those conversations, like, man, it don't matter.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it so much this time around. I
Speaker 2: think what happened eight years ago with the first that
Speaker 2: that guy when he was there, it woke people up
Speaker 2: because I even a lie to you. I went to
Speaker 2: bed knowing I was gonna wake up to another Clinton
Speaker 2: being in office.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2: I woke up at like three in the mornings bathroom
Speaker 2: and the CNN was still on.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, I ain't nowhere. I
Speaker 1: was like, ain't I literally I was saying. I was like,
Speaker 1: this did not happen. It happened.
Speaker 2: So, Gail, I know you you did a lot on
Speaker 2: the front lines. It didn't turn out how we wanted.
Speaker 2: You know, we had our host high and we got
Speaker 2: out there, but you did so much to make sure
Speaker 2: that people got registered.
Speaker 1: How does that sit with you? You know, you do what
Speaker 1: you can and you hope and pray for the best,
Speaker 1: but you can't sit in Okay, we didn't win. So
Speaker 1: now it's like, okay, this is the result. How do
Speaker 1: we move forward and how do we not allow ourselves
Speaker 1: to be buried in the result? Right? Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: think it's more like, okay, next time, you know, you
Speaker 1: got to do more. You know, you can only reach
Speaker 1: those that you can reach. And know that I know
Speaker 1: I'm not enough. It takes more than just me to change.
Speaker 1: You know, we're trying to elect the president of the
Speaker 1: United States. We were trying to literally do the impossible
Speaker 1: and get a black woman, the first black woman president elected.
Speaker 1: We fail but you know, we lost the battle. We
Speaker 1: didn't lose the war. We did not lose a war.
Speaker 1: So there'll be there'll be more just next time. I know,
Speaker 1: I got to come bigger and harder, heavier, when more
Speaker 1: people on the front line, and when when you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the end of the world. It's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: but it's not the end of the world. And I
Speaker 1: think right now the main thing is to encourage people
Speaker 1: to do what's best for that mental, to encourage people
Speaker 1: to not be out here in fear.
Speaker 2: And know that's what I'm worried about, the fear, because yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember January sixth, when he was in the office
Speaker 2: before the fear that I felt watching that in real
Speaker 2: time on seeing now, I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: Is this where I live?
Speaker 2: Is this my nation, the great nation of the United
Speaker 2: States South America? Is this where I used to pledge
Speaker 2: of allegiance as a child, Like we used to sit
Speaker 2: there in class every morning and pledge leads to the flag.
Speaker 2: Is this what I pledge to?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And I will say, like I fear what this will incite,
Speaker 2: you know, And because I saw what happened then and
Speaker 2: how they tried to downplay it, and I was like,
Speaker 2: there's nothing to downplay, you know, So it's not so.
Speaker 1: I think we have to get we have to familiarize
Speaker 1: ourselves with laws and policies so we can know our
Speaker 1: rights and protect ourselves. Because with Trump in office, you
Speaker 1: never know, you don't know, so you just have to
Speaker 1: prepare to You have to prepare yourself, you know, and
Speaker 1: move forward and find your peace and your happiness. Like
Speaker 1: it's not at the end of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's.
Speaker 1: Only four years. It's only four years. Four years we'll
Speaker 1: be we'll be ready for the next election. And it's
Speaker 1: like if we don't start preparing now, yes, right now,
Speaker 1: so twenty twenty eight, Yeah, it'll end up in the
Speaker 1: same predicaments. So how do we how do we avoid Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta get our game playing together.
Speaker 2: Yep, we are right, we will see because what we do,
Speaker 2: we continue to rise above were black.
Speaker 1: We now went through way worse, a terrible ass president. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't have Trump, ain't nothing but one of them
Speaker 1: same other motherfuckers out of the past forty some presidents
Speaker 1: like right, yeah, yeah, yeah, he wanted it once. So yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are I appreciate your time, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we ken't be positive. We did always did.
Speaker 1: That's easy. First schedule, we really do. No for when
Speaker 1: it's genuine. Yeah, it ain't on you, friend, It's seen
Speaker 1: you so much.
Speaker 2: So seriously, I know you've had a long twenty one day.
Speaker 2: This is twenty three now. Even when you wasn't working,
Speaker 2: you were still like busy, so it's not you didn't
Speaker 2: get your proper rest. So I just I really appreciate
Speaker 2: you making the time. No, it means the world to me.
Speaker 7: Seriously, Yeah, only hit my mic, but right right.
Speaker 4: You're weome even then well the kids were doing Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like the peace and then oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Guys. Like always.
Speaker 2: There's so much to unpack from my conversation with Gail.
Speaker 2: One of the main things I pulled from this chat
Speaker 2: was how to listen to God's voice. A lot of
Speaker 2: times we question was that guy or is he hearing
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? But in this conversation, I know it's
Speaker 2: your personal relationship with him and a lot of times
Speaker 2: when you ask him something, he shows you the signs,
Speaker 2: but are you really paying attention?
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Gail ban for coming through and sharing
Speaker 2: her incredible story today. Be sure to follow me on
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Speaker 1: Sweetie.
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Speaker 2: you can send us an email at keep It positivesweety
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Speaker 2: time you know what to do. Keep it Positive, Sweetie.
Speaker 2: I'll see you guys next time.