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Speaker 3: to do at Brown. Ambition is to help y' all

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Speaker 3: the Brown Table today by two repeat guests of the show.

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Speaker 3: Friends of the show. I've got the lovely Bernadette Joy

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Speaker 3: Your Money Goals, which is not just a great book,

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Speaker 3: Kirsten Saunders is one half of the Rich and Regular

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Speaker 3: podcast in YouTube series. We call it a franchise platform.

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Speaker 3: How are y'all celebrating your womanhood this month?

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Speaker 1: For me, it's my grandmother and my Aunt Jackie, both

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean now I can say I can hardly

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Speaker 3: You ever listened to that podcast wiser than me? I'm

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Speaker 4: I've heard it's great. I have not had a chance

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Speaker 3: That's literally the only women she interviews are over seventy.

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Speaker 2: discourage them, or might feel a little too blunt, or

440
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Speaker 2: might feel like I'm pulling the veil on my own

441
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Speaker 2: life of O like nothing not everything is hunky dory

442
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Speaker 2: over here either. And this past weekend, you know, I

443
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Speaker 2: just I just told them the truth of in particular

444
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Speaker 2: that I have in the last month been struggling with

445
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Speaker 2: how do I support all these people who are all

446
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Speaker 2: asking something of me? And I showed them. I showed them, like,

447
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Speaker 2: here's my inbox of everybody who has been asking me

448
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Speaker 2: for a meeting or a chat or advice or whatever,

449
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Speaker 2: and like I just kept scrolling and scrolling and scrolling.

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Speaker 5: And scrolling just to show them this to your volume

451
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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 2: And and so what was funny was just that so

453
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Speaker 2: when I tell you guys that if you're in the

454
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Speaker 2: room with me, like, now's the time to ask and

455
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Speaker 2: also just listen to what I say, please, like you know,

456
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Speaker 2: as you know, there's we've all been there, right, We've

457
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Speaker 2: all had the person like can I get a chat

458
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Speaker 2: with you can get a mentor some mentorship, and then

459
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Speaker 2: you you pour into them that they don't do anything

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 5: And that also is like sorry reaction. It's happened a lot.

462
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Speaker 2: It's happened a lot, literally, and so so I've been

463
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Speaker 2: I've been personally struggling with, Okay, how do I serve

464
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Speaker 2: all these people who I do want to help and

465
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Speaker 2: genuinely want to help, but also still maintain my own

466
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Speaker 2: you know, my own life and uh and have room

467
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Speaker 2: for myself. And so when when they saw that, they

468
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Speaker 2: were like wow, like I just I genuinely didn't know

469
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Speaker 2: it was that much of a volume on this. And

470
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Speaker 2: so I think it's really helpful for all of us

471
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Speaker 2: to say, hey, someone for someone to mentor us. It

472
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to be someone who wrote a book or

473
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Speaker 2: someone who has a podcast, or someone who has like

474
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Speaker 2: become CEO of a company. It could be your friend

475
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Speaker 2: who knows more about paramedopause than you. It could be

476
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: someone who is just funny and hilarious and just has

477
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Speaker 2: seen a lot of life. I think lately a lot

478
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Speaker 2: of people have been relying specifically on these like influencer

479
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Speaker 2: archetypes when there are so many cool, interesting women who

480
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Speaker 2: are not on the internet.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 5: I think those women need some love.

483
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Speaker 4: To Yes, they're the best, they are the absolutely leave

484
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Speaker 4: your house.

485
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Speaker 5: That's that's the hard part. That's hard.

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Speaker 3: Go to church, go to your neighborhood, whatever, knock on

487
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Speaker 3: a door.

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Speaker 5: Play majong, I don't know, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, And you got to have something to talk about.

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Speaker 1: That's not just like a reaction to what you've seen online.

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Speaker 1: Like it really encourages you to go live your life

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Speaker 1: life so that you have something to talk about, something

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Speaker 1: you can describe, versus just something you saw and you're

494
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Speaker 1: like did you see this too? And they're like no,

495
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Speaker 1: I did not. And so if you want to, if

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Speaker 1: you want to make headway with people that are regular

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Speaker 1: in real life, it's like, yeah, you got to.

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Speaker 4: You got to go live your life first.

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Speaker 3: Hey, ba fam, we got to take a quick break,

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Speaker 3: pay some bills and we'll be right back. Yeah. I mean, Bernadette,

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Speaker 3: as you're sharing that well, when you said thirty I

502
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Speaker 3: was like, you know, I've recently closed down my coaching

503
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Speaker 3: practice because I was like, I'm just like, I got

504
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Speaker 3: I can't devote what I was able to devote to it.

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Speaker 3: You know a few years ago, I was able to

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Speaker 3: devote the time and energy that I want to be

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Speaker 3: giving to this, and I'm like, it's better to you know,

508
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Speaker 3: not do that. But at the same time, like I

509
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Speaker 3: really I also think that there's this when you're a

510
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Speaker 3: woman and people are asking for your time, they don't

511
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Speaker 3: place the same value on it as they would a man,

512
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Speaker 3: and they expect, oh yes, a level of they expect

513
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Speaker 3: a certain way to be spoken to it just to

514
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Speaker 3: makes more time to speak to women, to speak to

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Speaker 3: other people as they expect a woman should with a

516
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Speaker 3: lot of like you know, a lot of fluff and

517
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Speaker 3: a lot of care and you know, like I don't know,

518
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Speaker 3: verbal emojis, like putting in a lot of like this

519
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Speaker 3: flowery stuff to make them feel comfortable and at ease

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Speaker 3: and nurtured. And that's just like extra time and energy

521
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Speaker 3: and you know, and and so I just I feel

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Speaker 3: you on that, and I love that you showed them like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is what it looks like. So You're almost forcing

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Speaker 3: them to see that there's a ton of demand for

525
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Speaker 3: my time and there's one of me, so already you're

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Speaker 3: showing them like you need to value me. It's like

527
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Speaker 3: you without expecting them, because I don't think we can necessarily,

528
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Speaker 3: unfortunately expect people to value women's time more than they

529
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Speaker 3: already do. Like we have to show them sometimes.

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Speaker 5: I am so appreciative that you said that.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly why I did not cancel this meeting

532
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Speaker 2: with my period today because I feel.

533
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Speaker 3: Like this podcast.

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Speaker 4: For sure going to say I was.

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Speaker 2: Going to say that that has that is exactly You've

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Speaker 2: just you just perfectly articulated what I have personally struggled

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Speaker 2: with the last year or so, I would say, especially

538
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Speaker 2: because of the publishing of my book, where just a

539
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Speaker 2: lot of people like it went from people who just

540
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Speaker 2: kind of saw me online to people who like read

541
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Speaker 2: the book and then really felt like they they knew me,

542
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Speaker 2: and then we're just like I was just getting amazing,

543
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Speaker 2: very engaged emails, but I was like, well, this just

544
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Speaker 2: feels like a lot and one of the things that

545
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Speaker 2: has been very helpful for me, and I would say

546
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Speaker 2: anyone who's listening to this is that you do have

547
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Speaker 2: to really set very clear expectations of what people can

548
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Speaker 2: expect from you and let them know ahead of time,

549
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Speaker 2: like that's what they're going to get, and then there

550
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Speaker 2: won't be this shock. So what I mean by that

551
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Speaker 2: is that so online on the internet, for example, like

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot there's like a whole hate train

553
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Speaker 2: right now about like Bernardette is just.

554
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Speaker 5: Like a snarky bitch basically, and and I don't know,

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Speaker 5: like that's actually accurate.

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Speaker 2: I would agree with you I am, and that's who

557
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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to change.

559
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Speaker 2: I did not work for the last ten years to

560
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Speaker 2: retire at forty so that I can just continue to

561
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Speaker 2: be like, oh, I'm sorry, apologies for you know, blah

562
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Speaker 2: blah blah, like I just don't have the energy for

563
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: it anymore. And what's been fun is that the people

564
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Speaker 2: who have stuck around have been like, that's what you

565
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Speaker 2: like about you, Like, just tell it to me straight,

566
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: like you know. And so yesterday I'm literally like yelling

567
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: at my clients. At one point, I'm just like, ladies,

568
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: enough of this, Like I don't want to talk about

569
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome today, and they're like, okay, yep, yep. And

570
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Speaker 2: now my client's like, they know to raise their hand.

571
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Speaker 2: They're like, are we getting yelled at today? I'm like,

572
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Speaker 2: you didn't piss me off today, so maybe.

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Speaker 5: Not, and they just know.

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Speaker 2: So I think to your point of I used to

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Speaker 2: be that person who would try to find the flowery

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Speaker 2: way to say it and all of that, and I realized,

577
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Speaker 2: other than the fact that it was draining for me,

578
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Speaker 2: it actually wasn't effective.

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Speaker 5: It's not it wasn't effective. It's needed to hear it straight.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I don't jump on

581
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: the Dave Ramsey hate train. It's not to say that

582
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Speaker 1: the man doesn't have issues that are fair to critique,

583
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Speaker 1: but there are some people that need to be talked

584
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Speaker 1: to like that. And to me, it's one of the

585
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Speaker 1: signs that you are either ready for coaching or you're

586
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Speaker 1: not ready for coaching. If you need everything to be

587
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: packaged up in a way that is like super comfortable

588
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: for you and digestible, you probably don't need a coach.

589
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: What you need is like a friend, a mentor a

590
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Speaker 1: business buddy, like someone who can do that. A coach

591
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: talks to you different, Like the point of a coach

592
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Speaker 1: is to push you past what you're capable of doing

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Speaker 1: on your own. And we see this a lot in

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Speaker 1: youth sports. My son is a baseball player, and my

595
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: husband is a volunteer coach, and I am a mom coach.

596
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Speaker 1: I do all of the things with a feminine side

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Speaker 1: or a feminine point of view.

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Speaker 4: And what you realize is that.

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Speaker 1: Even amongst parents, there are things that coaches are allowed

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Speaker 1: to say to kids. There are ways that coaches are

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Speaker 1: allowed to speak to kids that teachers, neighbors, and even

602
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Speaker 1: sometimes their own parents don't feel comfortable doing.

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Speaker 4: But when you take on.

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Speaker 1: That role of coach, you're okay like getting yelled at

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Speaker 1: a little bit, getting told that you need to like

606
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Speaker 1: tighten up, being reminded what discipline nets you and what

607
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: laziness nets you. Like it is okay to let somebody

608
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Speaker 1: who is objectively trying to make you better be a

609
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Speaker 1: little tough on you. Sometimes that's exactly what you need.

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Speaker 1: You just don't have that voice in your life to

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Speaker 1: allow you to do that. M h.

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Speaker 3: And like a coach caregiver, No, that's right.

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Speaker 4: It's a very specific role.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a very specific role. And I will also say,

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Speaker 5: because I think it's relevant for women's history a month like,

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Speaker 5: I am now in this phase.

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Speaker 2: So I decided to kind of officially retire this this

618
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Speaker 2: is my first full year retirement and I'm entering this

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Speaker 2: angel investor role. And it has been fascinating that the

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Speaker 2: most criticism I've gotten as an angel investor or others

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Speaker 2: women of color. And it's and it's been a little

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Speaker 2: bit disheartening. It's been a little bit it's just been

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Speaker 2: a little bit like I'm like learning, like why is

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Speaker 2: this happening? And to your point, it's a lot of

625
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Speaker 2: other folks who expect you to operate that they would operate,

626
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: not understanding that, you know, as an age old vessel.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you kind of a prime example. You know there,

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Speaker 2: this is this is legitimately. Uh what happened? I one

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Speaker 2: day woke up and I went to this meeting and

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Speaker 2: it was of course all white men, and I was

631
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Speaker 2: one of the few women. Uh, And it was a

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Speaker 2: it was an investor meeting here in Charlotte. And I

633
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Speaker 2: came back and it was just and I just wrote

634
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Speaker 2: on my threads, I said, I am so tired of

635
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Speaker 2: like AI driven businesses.

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Speaker 5: I want to see more human businesses please, and thank you.

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Speaker 2: What what I did not expect was that was a

638
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Speaker 2: call to people to just pitch me in the comments.

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Speaker 2: I just had no idea that that's how people would

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Speaker 2: react to it. So I I go to the gym,

641
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Speaker 2: i'd come back. My my husband's like, are you seeing

642
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: what's happening in your threads right now? And it's like

643
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Speaker 2: one thousand, two hundred pitches in my in my comments

644
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Speaker 2: and another like to hundreds in my dms. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa.

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00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: What is happening here? So I was like, well, that's interesting,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's something to this. Let me let

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Speaker 2: me find out. But remember I'm retired and I am

649
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: trying to do more work right now. So what I

650
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Speaker 2: did what I just said, Hey, if you're interested in

651
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Speaker 2: pitching me, just join my email list and then I

652
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Speaker 2: will write an email and I'll pick a time where

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Speaker 2: all of you can.

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Speaker 5: Come and pitch, like and that's all I That's all I.

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Speaker 2: Could do at the time, like to try to catch

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Speaker 2: you know, like all these people. Then all these other

657
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Speaker 2: women start going, well, her process sucks and like it's

658
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: so confusing because like now she's sending me to go

659
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: to her free guide and all this and that whatever

660
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: and she's so lazy and blah blah blah. Right, and

661
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: and again it was all women of call, and I'm

662
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: going and I'm thinking, so, just to be clear, I'm

663
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: one of the few female.

664
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: I mean, only seven.

665
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Percent of Angel investors are not white, and only twenty

666
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: seven percent are women. And I'm offering an opportunity. All

667
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: you have to do is give me your name and

668
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: email address. I'm not trying to sell you nothing. And also,

669
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: if you need funding, I'm all also going to assume

670
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: you need money habits in order to do that to

671
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: get that funding.

672
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 5: And the vitual I got was just like, Wow, this

673
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 5: is so this is just so interesting.

674
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: And what I took away and including other people, other

675
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: women in personal finance, other women in personal finance, who

676
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: were saying, you should have made a whole new process

677
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: for us, you should have made this easier for everybody.

678
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: You should cater to the people who who are wanting

679
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: your time and your money, and I just was just like,

680
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: why would this be happening, because I'm pretty sure the

681
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: men are not getting this feedback.

682
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure nobody's going in their.

683
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: Process like you've just put up a thread. You just

684
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: put up a thread, you know, a thought, which then

685
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: like you're like, oh you then you're reacting to it

686
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: by creating a system in it because you didn't expect

687
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: to get Lli's pitches and you're like, oh, maybe I

688
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: just have a way people to pitch me. This is

689
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: not like the Bernadette venturecapital dot com. Like you know

690
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, what did you expect? Like she's

691
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: just trying to react in the moment to like come

692
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: up with a quick and dirty way to like get y'all,

693
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: like get this a little bit more organized. You could

694
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: actually be helpful. The internet is.

695
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: So the Internet is fascinating, but like what there's Here's

696
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: what's sucked about it is that it was a minority

697
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: of people who complained about it. But those minority of

698
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: people said, well, everybody's complaining about this. I'm like, that's

699
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: not true because three hundred people were able to figure

700
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: it out and sign up for the email list.

701
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: Like I'm seeing people follow the process.

702
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: It's tomorrow, the pitch is tomorrow, and twenty five people

703
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: are pitching tomorrow, which is plenty enough for me to

704
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: When I I had zero, I had zero plans for

705
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: any of this right. So I'm like, actually, twenty five

706
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: is pretty good for having done pretty much almost nothing right.

707
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: And the takeaway that it took from that is just like, like, ladies,

708
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: we have to do better in understanding that we all have.

709
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm not only an angel investor, I'm also you know,

710
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: dealing with chronic conditions. I'm also like running my own business.

711
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm also like try, I just did my first like

712
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: stand up comedy set, Like there's also a lot of

713
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: other things that we're all trying to do. But then

714
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: we are so critical of other women when they're like, oh, well,

715
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: you're not giving me your time, you're not giving me

716
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: your energy, or you're not handling this the way that

717
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I would handle it without taking a step back and saying, well,

718
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: why might she have done that? And so I'm saying

719
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: that because I know the listeners that you have, Mandy,

720
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: are like very critical thinking like actually, you know, you know,

721
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: highly supportive, especially of women of color. But sometimes, you know,

722
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: sometimes we shoot ourselves in the foot because how many

723
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: of those women could have actually got funding or had

724
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: the shot at it if they had.

725
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: Just watching the sad thing when you were talking about

726
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: how people were like critiquing you. The sad cycle I

727
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: think of being a woman of color entrepreneur business owner

728
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: is that people are always so excited to see you.

729
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: And it's like I'm Bernadette and I paid off their

730
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: your k of debt and I have this great new

731
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: book Crush your Money Goals, and you're building and building

732
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: and everyone's so excited to see. And then you reach

733
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: a level where like you can invest and you have

734
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: this position of power influence, and then quickly people look

735
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: for reasons to then hate. It's just like it's just

736
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you can see it time and time again,

737
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: time after time, repeating itself. At the same time, Fuck

738
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: yeah that you got twenty five women owned businesses that

739
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: are going to be pitching to you for venture capital funds,

740
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: and like, you're right, I'm so glad that you started

741
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: talking about this. You're actually doing part of my job

742
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: for me, because I wanted to, you know, put a

743
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: put like a little like a stamp on where women

744
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: of color owned businesses are these days. I think we've

745
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: all heard the stats about how we're the fastest growing

746
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 3: group of entrepreneurs and it's all so exciting. In fact,

747
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: like women of color are close to ninety percent of

748
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: new women own businesses that are being created. We can

749
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: stop there and be like, wow, we're doing it. No

750
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: new it's let's continue that sentence on the typical black

751
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: women owned business is only earning like twenty four thousand

752
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: dollars a year in revenue. That's less than half of

753
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: what white owned women's businesses are making. And you think about,

754
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: like you said, venture capital, and it's a not even

755
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: like a fraction of a fraction of a percent of

756
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: venture capital in the US is going to black founders.

757
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: Black women receive zero point three percent, like less than

758
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: one percent of institutional VC funding. So we're self funding.

759
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: We're dipping into that retirement, you know, we are saving

760
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: and saving and then you know, living off of whatever

761
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: that is while we try to fulfill this dream and

762
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: and then crashing and burning very quickly because that is unsustainable.

763
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: And so I love that you're stepping up and wanting

764
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: to help plug that gap.

765
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's exciting, and I'm really I'm really hoping

766
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: that I can provide a different perspective. One of my

767
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: favorite criticisms I got was, well, she's obviously not a

768
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: real angel. Investor because she does improv and I'm like, I.

769
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 5: Know, like that's awesome, you know what, Yes, I do improv.

770
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: I also do hip hop dance. I also just you know,

771
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: performed in a standard last name.

772
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: So I don't understand. Yeah, my bad.

773
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't wear a pat Patagony vest and play golf

774
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: like those must be the real angel investors over there, y'all.

775
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 5: And so to your point, it's like.

776
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: Some days I'm just like, I'm just you know what,

777
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Guys like y'all are just stressing me out and exhausting me.

778
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 5: I don't want to do this anymore, to be honest.

779
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: But then inevitably, almost every time I'm about to quit,

780
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: someone emails me and said, as, oh, you know, I

781
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: change this behavior because of something that you said or

782
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: something that I saw you do, or you know, some.

783
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 5: People, you know a lot of people.

784
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: I got even more more people signing up that day

785
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: because they're like, we want the non Patagonia vests, like

786
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: we like that you have some rhythm like that, you know, awesome, great,

787
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: you know, And so I'm realizing that a lot of

788
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: what people are going to see this is for founders,

789
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: for investors, for just any any one of us who

790
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: are building generational wealth right now. People are going to say, oh, well,

791
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: you must be fake or you must not really be

792
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: doing because I've just never seen this before. And it's like, yeah,

793
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: you know why you haven't seen this before because I

794
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: can't follow the playbook that already exists because that playbook

795
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: systematically excluded us before.

796
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 5: So I have to make a new playbook.

797
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: And so it's going to be wonky a little bit,

798
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: and it's going to be you know, I'm figuring it

799
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: out too. But if I'm just going to copy the

800
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: same playbook that those other people did, then we're just

801
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: going to get the same result.

802
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: It does feel like some of this is like like

803
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: a psyop, like big tech, know, outrage and rage bait,

804
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: and just the idea that you are attacked for the

805
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: simplest of thoughts or threads or tweets, Like it does

806
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: seem intentional. It doesn't seem like that's the general sentiment

807
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: around women women of color, like not supporting each other,

808
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: not supporting businesses. It just seems like if there is

809
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: a moment to pick at somebody, the algorithm is going

810
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: to show that tweet or that thread or that post

811
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: to the most opinionated people.

812
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: They're all going to look and see like, oh yeah,

813
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: I saw it too.

814
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: I saw it too, even despite like you don't even

815
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: have a business to invest in, like you're upset over

816
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: something that literally does.

817
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: Not affect you.

818
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: And I think what we don't consider is while that

819
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: builds camaraderie and community around the people who are piling on,

820
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: it absolutely tanks the mental health of the person who

821
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: is actually trying to do something, whether you are an

822
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: investor or a business owner, or just someone who is

823
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: trying to promote something that you're proud of. The minute

824
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: people pile on, it's like you don't want to do

825
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: it anymore. And that doesn't help the problem. And I

826
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: don't think that it is an issue of women not

827
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: supporting women. I just think that when you see that

828
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: shit online, when you see like somebody's piling on, just

829
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: ignore it, like just like, don't don't jump in, don't

830
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: like the post, don't dig through the comments trying to

831
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: figure out who they talking about, because all it's going

832
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: to do is tell the algorithm to serve you more

833
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: of that, and you're just gonna get more mess, more

834
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: mess in your timeline. You're going to develop more opinions

835
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: about people you do not know, and spend less time

836
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: developing opinions on the people that you actually do know

837
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: that can actually change your life or just yourself. Like

838
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: the things that you think you got to decide up

839
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: front that you don't care, you don't care about somebody

840
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: else having one bad experience with a creator in a

841
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: bread like that shouldn't be I'm not saying that shouldn't

842
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: be interesting to you because I don't want to.

843
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to police what you find entertaining.

844
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: But I'm saying the more that you do that, the

845
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: more of that you're going to get, and then you

846
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: will start to feel a way about people that doesn't

847
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: exist outside of that that social network.

848
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: The richer women and women of color especially get, I

849
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: feel like the better the better society will be as

850
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: a as a whole, I think agree. Even as preparing

851
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: this episode, you know, often you'll see that quote that

852
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: women of color are the are the canary and the

853
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: coal mine, especially black women when it comes to unemployment

854
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: and losses in you know, and in wealth, and it's

855
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: it's a heavy burden. It's like people want to they

856
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: almost like look to see like Okay, they're suffering, So like,

857
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: maybe I should start to up to think ahead into

858
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: how I'm like sort of looking at my own finances

859
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: or how my career is going to be going. But

860
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: it's also like, why don't you stop to lend a hand,

861
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: stop to actually do something, And it's it's just a

862
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: reminder that we are the only ones who are going

863
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: to save ourselves and not just sort of feast on

864
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: or consume our own pain and consume our own I

865
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: guess our own challenges, you know, Like it's great for

866
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: a headline, it's great for a little nugget and a

867
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: politician's speech, But who's actually on the ground trying to

868
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: help women of color achieve some financial stabilities and financial independence.

869
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: It's it's people like us, you know, it's actually doing

870
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: the work. I can read to you the stat I mean,

871
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: it's any way you slice it, it's you know, it's

872
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: it's always painful to read the stats about women of

873
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: colors net worth. I found one that said the median

874
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: wealth of a single black woman is estimated to be

875
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars versus twenty nine thousand dollars for a

876
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: single white man. And so in the face of you know,

877
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: numbers like that. I think there's this feeling of, well,

878
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 3: everything is stacked against us. Where do we even go

879
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: from here? And very quickly as soon as I say

880
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: these words, I'm like, can we just forget that we

881
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: said that and just decide to be the exception to

882
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: that rule? What would y'all say to the woman who's

883
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: listening and maybe feel seen by that stat like the

884
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars versus twenty nine thousand and just isn't

885
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: sure how to, you know, start to build that wealth.

886
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: What's like sort of one thing she can do today

887
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: to push herself over that hill or that mountain of

888
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: building wealth.

889
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of ignoring. It's a lot

890
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: of ignoring the advice that is trying to fix you

891
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: to solve this very structural problem. I think a lot

892
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: of women will lean on the tactical advice. They will,

893
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: you know, learn how to negotiate more, or figure out

894
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: their worth or whatever the de facto advice is. And

895
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: what that does is it puts you in a position

896
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: where you're still dependent on this system, and it leaves

897
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: out the part that like, all right, well, women of

898
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: color are literally penalized for negotiating more so, some of

899
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: that tactical advice, to Burnette's point, doesn't work. You cannot

900
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: follow the same playbook, and you have to get very,

901
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: very comfortable with the idea that your life is not

902
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: going to be this search for stability in the same

903
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: way that the playbook suggests. You're not just going to

904
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: find the great job and be able to sit in

905
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: it comfortably forever. You have to learn to make a

906
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: series of calculated bets on yourself, which means that you

907
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: have to be reflective on the ones that didn't work

908
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: out and why you got to be willing to change

909
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: your approach. You got to be willing to change the wager,

910
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: when to go big, when to go home, when to

911
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: take your winnings and cash out, as the book says,

912
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: or when to put it down and say nah, double

913
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: learn nothing like when you hih you don't stop shooting.

914
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: It is a very different way of talking to yourself

915
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: and moving through the system and through life than what

916
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: is promoted online and in nass self help books like

917
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: you just have to accept that I think the path

918
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: is acceptance without wanting it to be different. And then

919
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: you kind of kill some of that that struggle and

920
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: surface area like frustration with the way that it is

921
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: because it's always been this way. You open with the

922
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: stat about how we are the most entrepreneurial but the

923
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: least paid, and it's like, well, yeah, that is the

924
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: origin story. We were stolen, brought over here, raised kids,

925
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, farmed lands, took care of households for no pay,

926
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: like that is the story. Once you can get past

927
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: like that being the story, and they will always find

928
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: ways to recreate that. Even if it's through a six

929
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: figure salary, you are still underpaid. You are still paid

930
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: less than what you are worth and what you deliver.

931
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: When you can truly internalize that and find a way

932
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: to metabolize all of the anger and rage and frustration

933
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: that comes with the fact, then you can move forward

934
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: to say, all right, well, if that's the case, how

935
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: can I bettle myself in a way that still allows

936
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: me to get the things that I want? And that's

937
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: where things get really interesting, Like that's where your imagination

938
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: takes over and you can start to say, like, all right,

939
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't have to be one thing. I can be

940
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: an angel investor and I can do improv I can

941
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: be rich, but I can also be regular as hell.

942
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: I can be all the things that I want to

943
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: be in different arenas of my life, and it's very freeing.

944
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: It's a level of freedom that I cannot describe to

945
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: people because it's not necessarily that something money buys is

946
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: something that money enables. But the rest is like pure

947
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: imagination and playfulness, and that like when black women are

948
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: there or any woman of color, when we are there

949
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: in our land of like playfulness, imagination, abundance, openness, it's like, oh,

950
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: like that is to me, that's how the world changes,

951
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: how our art gets created, that's how our words get

952
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: get written down and move and inspire movements like that,

953
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: to me is where we're supposed to be, and I

954
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: want more of us to get to that place.

955
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 5: I love that.

956
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: Also, I loved how you plugged Richard regular like solgo

957
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: seamlessly and.

958
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: The book like that was impressed.

959
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 5: I did did not impressive. I will add to that.

960
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: This is really freshened my mind because I just came

961
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: off of this summit with my clients. It's all women,

962
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: all different races, all different ages, Like the youngest was

963
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: twenty something, the oldest was fifty something, and I told

964
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: them exactly what groups I put them in based off

965
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: of what their challenge was. And I told the whole group,

966
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: I said, hey, this group of three women over here,

967
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: they're the A plus students, okay, because they just they

968
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: just do what I said to do, and they don't

969
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: talk about it all day, and they don't like, you know,

970
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: over analyze whatever.

971
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 5: They just do it.

972
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: They're all black women, And in six weeks, one of

973
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: them paid off for a car, one of them paid

974
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: off thirty two thousand dollars of student loans, and one

975
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: of them had paid off all.

976
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: Our credit card debt.

977
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: What I thought was very interesting and also funny was that,

978
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: so there's you know, there's a part of the summit

979
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: where I have them working on their financial plans and

980
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 2: they're all having to you know, document it and get

981
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 2: it onto paper so that they can leave with it.

982
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: And AJ and my husband comes up to me, he's like,

983
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 2: is that okay? Over there, they're like they're not talking

984
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: at all. The other all the other groups are just

985
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: gabbing and like talking about like.

986
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: You know, no one taught me about money and this

987
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 5: and that and the stats are this and blah blah blah.

988
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: And the three of them they're all just like do

989
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: like you're all doing the work, like what is literally

990
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to pay help to stud

991
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: it once at that moment, the other one was like

992
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: researching her for one ke because I told her to

993
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: do it next week.

994
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 5: She's like, no, I'm just gonna do it now. The

995
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 5: other one she.

996
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: Got yelled at because she still had all these subscriptions

997
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: that she knew she didn't have time to even look

998
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: at because she's supposed to be studying for a certification.

999
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, that they're the aplus group

1000
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: because they're the ones not talking all the time.

1001
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 5: They're just doing it.

1002
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: And so at some point, like you said, we have

1003
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: to accept the stats or the stats, but we can

1004
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: choose to be the exception, like you said. And I

1005
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: have always personally got in again a criticism of well, Bernadette,

1006
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: your tactics don't work for the average person.

1007
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 5: And I'm like, that's correct.

1008
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: I don't teach average people. Well, I don't teach to

1009
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: people who want to stay average, because the average in

1010
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: the US is broke. So if you want to not

1011
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 2: be broke, then you have to do on average things.

1012
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: Hey, ba, fam, we got to take a quick break,

1013
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: pay some bills, and we'll be right back. Girl. You

1014
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: said so much in that one statement, and shout out

1015
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: to those three women too. I think and I think

1016
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: about what you said earlier about like telling your group

1017
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about imposter syndrome anymore? Can

1018
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: we just stop talking and start the doing? And oh,

1019
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean you saw the kind of coach that everyone needs.

1020
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: And also the number of times I feel like in

1021
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: my coaching practice that they're like, oh, Mandy's reading us again,

1022
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, that's that's what you need. Sometimes

1023
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: is you just need someone and it doesn't matter like

1024
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: find your flavor of coach or like mentor accountability buddy

1025
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: or a system may not even be a person, but

1026
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: like what is it that is stopping you from just

1027
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: doing the thing? And as I reflected back on this

1028
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: question of you know, if you're listening and there's you know,

1029
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: you're wondering, like, what's one thing a woman needs to

1030
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: hear to start her to ramp up her wealth building journey,

1031
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: It's like, find one single thing you can do today.

1032
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: On the days when I feeling my lowest, I always

1033
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: have to ask myself, well, that's the one thing I

1034
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: can actually do today to move the needle toward that direction.

1035
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: And without fail, my thing is usually putting ten dollars

1036
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: into my investment account, just transferring it over from savings

1037
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: ten dollars, seven dollars. I've felt very broke lately, you know,

1038
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 3: just because I have. I've been like building, building, building,

1039
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, I always feel

1040
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: richer and better when I am putting a little bit

1041
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: of money into my investments, and like, without fail, that's

1042
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: just been the It's what has made everything in my

1043
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: life possible up until this point is the little knowledge

1044
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: that I had, but the ability I had to just

1045
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: do a thing, you know, fifteen years ago and start

1046
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: investing and started aggressively say and uh no, I'm not

1047
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: investing half of my earnings like I was, you know,

1048
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: back when I was thirty and it was all cute

1049
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: twenty five and cute could do that. But yeah, I'm

1050
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: still kicking whatever I can away. And that is a concrete,

1051
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: tangible action that if you're listening, I feel like you

1052
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: could do right now and then at least you can

1053
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 3: go the rest of your day and feel like, Okay,

1054
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be an a plus student. You know, Burnette

1055
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't yell at me.

1056
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: She'd be like, m hm, that's right, that's right.

1057
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: I think, Uh, I think what's been what's what's been

1058
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: fun for me this particular season of my life? Like

1059
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: you said, like, I love that you share that. I

1060
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: think too many women assume that it's this like straight

1061
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 2: line shot into wealth building.

1062
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 5: Where is it.

1063
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: There's going to be a season where life is going

1064
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: to life and you're not going to be able to

1065
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: put as much into your investments. You might have to

1066
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: get back into credit card debt, like you might have

1067
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: a major health condition, and then you know, you're just

1068
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: taken out.

1069
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: You just don't know.

1070
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: And the thing that I have realized that a lot

1071
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: of my female clients do is that when life is lifeing,

1072
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: that is the time that they say, oh, I'm just

1073
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: not going to look at my finances at all, Versus

1074
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: it should be the opposite. It's like, oh, life is

1075
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: about to happen. Let me see what I can afford

1076
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: in this moment in time. And it might not be

1077
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: the best plan, but have a plan at all, whether

1078
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: it's you know, you know, having a child or getting

1079
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: divorced or being a caregiver, like, those are all real

1080
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: situations that are happening in my client group right now.

1081
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: And their response initially was, Oh, this thing is happening

1082
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: right now, So I'm not going to do my budget

1083
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to update my accounts and I'm

1084
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: just just going to ignore it versus well, it's it's

1085
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: only going to get worse when you get back. And

1086
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: for me, when when my father passed away, I had

1087
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: to look at my budget to say, well, how much

1088
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: how much time can I afford to take off to grieve?

1089
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 5: So you know, stuff like that, right, And so I

1090
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 5: think what is.

1091
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Very challenging, like you said about the playbooks that we've

1092
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: been given, is that it just assumes that life doesn't happen.

1093
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: But life happens more to women of color for a

1094
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: lot of for a lot of reasons that are overlooked.

1095
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 5: And so if we had more more doing but with

1096
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 5: the with the context of.

1097
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, you uh, you're maternity leave, right, I have

1098
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: someone who right now she's she only gets two weeks

1099
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: of maternity leave.

1100
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 5: It's like what.

1101
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 2: You know, like, but that's the reality of the situation

1102
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: for so for so so some of these books that

1103
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: are just like, well, just don't eat out and don't

1104
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: do this, and don't do It's like, that's just not

1105
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: that's just not the reality of it. So part of

1106
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: the thing that I'm concerned about but also hopeful is

1107
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: that I think AI has caused a lot of people

1108
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: to just depend on other people to tell them, or

1109
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: even a non human telling them what to do, versus hey,

1110
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 2: practice the discernment it. Listen to your intuition. This advice

1111
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: doesn't sound right. This you know, what they're telling me

1112
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: is does not apply in my situation.

1113
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: But what to your point?

1114
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: Pretty much anyone on this, on this who's listening to

1115
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: this right now, I can put ten dollars away. I'm

1116
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: pretty confident about that. So choosing any action versus nothing

1117
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: at all is still way better.

1118
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 3: Do it quick before freaking Netflix takes it. Although Netflix

1119
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: is like thirty bucks a month now, police crazy, crazy,

1120
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, do it quick before someone else will be

1121
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: gladly taking that ten dollars from you. So give it

1122
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: to yourself.

1123
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: Thank hell yeah, and give yourself the gift of getting

1124
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: somebody else to give you that ten dollars. Like a

1125
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: lot of us are sitting on stuff in our.

1126
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 4: House that we don't lose that we don't look at

1127
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: sell it. Sell it.

1128
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: It's so easy post a picture on Facebook, Marketplace, eBay, possmark,

1129
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: like choose your platform and sell it. Like know what

1130
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: it feels like to make a dollar off the internet?

1131
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: And it starts to change your brain in terms of

1132
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: your options, Like there's a lot more options than you

1133
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: think that you have, and there's a lot of people

1134
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: that are willing to give you money for stuff you

1135
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: don't use. Sell it, get the ten dollars that way

1136
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: and invest it, and you don't have to touch your

1137
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: budget at all. Like that's another way of teaching yourself

1138
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: without having to like re enroll in school or be

1139
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: depressed because now you don't get to eat Chipotle this week.

1140
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: Like there's money out here. America is still one of

1141
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: the richest countries in the world. It's just not evenly distributed.

1142
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: So you've got to figure out how to get your

1143
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: piece of that pie. See that's coach voice coming out

1144
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: that this is why I don't coach people. It's like

1145
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: that's coach boys, Like there's plenty of money out here,

1146
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Go get yours.

1147
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: Go get overwhelmed by the amount of stuff that I

1148
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: could be selling and I'm just like, no, I'm going

1149
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: to do that eventually, and then it just keeps piling up.

1150
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: I need a curious and to be like, girl, just

1151
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: pick a day and freaking pose some stuff and get

1152
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: it or.

1153
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 4: Hire somebody to do it for you. Could you do

1154
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 4: that or put it in AI and have them do it.

1155
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: Yet now they take like if you use a service,

1156
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: they're going to take a greater percentage the money that's

1157
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: made because they do it from like soup to nuts.

1158
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 4: They'll post it, They'll they'll promote.

1159
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 3: It for your husband, Well, why is he not there?

1160
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: You go, that's a great honey, dude, welcome a weekend

1161
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: project like.

1162
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: Me doing it? Honey, I'm not doing nothing me, honey,

1163
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm the honey.

1164
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: But this is another like if you had like a

1165
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: gen Z mentor like, this is stuff they do on

1166
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 1: a regular basis, you know what I'm saying, Like they're

1167
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: so good at it, they'll make you a commercial on TikTok.

1168
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: They'll you know, like this is this is why we

1169
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: need these relationships, is why we need intergenerational relationships because

1170
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: we overthink way too much the number of young black

1171
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: women and women of color who are entrepreneurs right now

1172
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: in their twenties, like that they never even thought about

1173
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: getting a job. They learn how to break they learn

1174
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: how to do nails, they learn how to sell on TikTok,

1175
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: they learn how to create affiliate programs, so they try

1176
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: stuff on they model it for the internet, and they

1177
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: make a percentage of anybody that buys it. And it's

1178
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: like that, to me, is just so enterprising, and we

1179
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: have to learn how to see that in them. We

1180
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: can't just see them as like hungry for attention. They

1181
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: out here working, they're getting money, Like it looks different

1182
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: than would it looked when we were teenagers and had

1183
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: to get jobs at like a fast food restaurant or

1184
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: at the mall. But they now understand this digital world

1185
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: and how money flows through it in a different way.

1186
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: That can be really inspiring to make you rethink, like

1187
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: what you're sitting on, Like what a lot of us

1188
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: have the equipment.

1189
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: We've got the stuff to sell, we've got things to.

1190
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: Say, got stories to tell. They don't have none of that,

1191
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: and they're still doing it. It's like wow, Like I

1192
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: could probably pull together four hundred dollars worth of stuff

1193
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: just from the room I'm in and it be gone

1194
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: by the end of the week.

1195
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: It makes it a great way to make money because

1196
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm thinking gen Z is like high school, and I'm like, no,

1197
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: they're not.

1198
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: They're in their twenties.

1199
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: I think the youngest is fourteen, twenties, so that doesn't

1200
00:57:59,520 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: make any sense.

1201
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 4: The youngest is like fourteen, and I think the oldest

1202
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: is like twenty twenty.

1203
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: Eight because I'm twenty seven.

1204
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, like twenty.

1205
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: Seven and I have been for eleven years.

1206
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: I think you're so right about that. I think you're

1207
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: really right about that. I at first, you know, I

1208
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: was definitely like, I'm the elder millennial. I just turned

1209
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: forty one, where I was just like, I just don't

1210
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what these kids are doing, and you know,

1211
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: and then I've just in the past couple of years,

1212
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: I've just met some some really like I love that

1213
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: they use the word enterprising, some really enterprising gen z

1214
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: Ers who were just like, no, we saw you guys suffer,

1215
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: and we saw our parents suffer through this, and you

1216
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 2: guys always complain about how you hated going to work,

1217
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: So why would I.

1218
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 5: They're literally just like why would I do that? They

1219
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 5: don't drink, They were like you guys were a bunch

1220
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 5: of drunks. So that's why we don't drink, because we

1221
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 5: saw the consequences of that.

1222
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: You know, just like we don't see smarter and seeking

1223
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: for men the pandemic and wishing there'd be another one

1224
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: because wasn't it great to be able to work from home? Right?

1225
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Right? Yep?

1226
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're super smart, and I think we all

1227
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: have to deal with the discomfort of a generation that

1228
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: doesn't see us as aspirational. Like once you get past that,

1229
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: the idea that they don't want to be like you, this,

1230
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: it's like, well, shit, how can we What can I learn?

1231
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: What can I learn from you? And then what can

1232
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: I still offer to you? Because even if you don't

1233
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: want the path that I want, it's not available anyway.

1234
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: So it's not like you can like there's no love

1235
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: loss because the path that I took isn't going to

1236
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: be available to you anyway. But there's still something that

1237
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: we can learn from each other. There's still a way

1238
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: for us to work together and befriend to each other

1239
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: and hold hands and build things together. Like it's just

1240
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: such a huge missed opportunity, I think, for for girlhood,

1241
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: for womanhood to not have that link that we got

1242
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: to fix it, like we and it starts with us.

1243
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: We're the adults in the room, guys. We can't expect

1244
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: them to just like get it. They're still you know,

1245
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: the brains are still developing. They're not they're not they're

1246
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: not adults yet.

1247
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Also I had this this is a total aciety.

1248
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: But I just went to the new edition Tony Braxton

1249
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: Voiced to Men concert and you know we're singing, you know,

1250
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: it's Tony Braxton like You're not man enough and I'll

1251
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: break my heart. And I was thinking to myself, I like,

1252
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: I'm singing the song when I was nine, like about

1253
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: how I stole your man and he wasn't good enough

1254
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: and so I gave him back to And I'm just thinking,

1255
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: and I was just you know, twenty thousand people in

1256
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: the arena and all the women are just belt like screamed,

1257
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, like screaming these songs. And I realized that,

1258
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: you know, our generation, you know, we were raised on

1259
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: you know, Tony Braxton and Whitney Houston and you know

1260
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: all these all these you know, strong women and this

1261
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: like I actually genuinely ask like for gen Z and

1262
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: then my my friends kids who are like their teenagers,

1263
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: like there is there there kind of isn't those people anymore?

1264
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: Like they?

1265
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 5: And so who do they have?

1266
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: They have influencers? They don't, They don't like they don't

1267
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: follow celebrities. They don't know who movie stars are anymore

1268
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: because they don't go to the movies to just watch TikTok, right,

1269
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: And so to me, I just I kind of like

1270
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: dawned on me that like, oh, okay, of course they're

1271
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: operating differently because the way they consume even things like

1272
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: music or advice or whatever is so different from how

1273
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: we groups. It doesn't mean it's wrong, but I do

1274
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 2: think too to your point is that I still find

1275
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: myself being kind of like an old person of just like, oh,

1276
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, our music was like

1277
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: so much better, which I still think it is. But

1278
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: I think that I need to like sometimes peel back

1279
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: the layers and say, Okay, for example, like I have

1280
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: the summit coming up, and you know, I just don't.

1281
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: I don't have the creativity to make something look very instagrammable.

1282
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: That's just like not in my wheelhouse. But someone else

1283
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: who who who knows lighting, who knows all that stuff whatever, Like,

1284
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: why are we not giving those opportunities when we we

1285
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: do have this we I'm saying our generation specifically. I

1286
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: do think we lean a lot more towards emotional intelligence

1287
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: just because we were again because we were singing about

1288
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: heartbreak at like nine years old. I do think we

1289
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: lean more towards relationship building. I do think we lean

1290
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: more towards kind of a consultative type of business than

1291
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: some of the gen Zers sometimes, So why don't we

1292
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: just lean into that and then give them the stuff

1293
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: that they want to do and that they're good at.

1294
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: But we again come back and we're like, well, we

1295
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: got to do everything ourselves because we're in also, you know,

1296
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: like Beyonce say, it said we should be independent, so

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Speaker 2: we should just that meant we do everything alone.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that that was start typing to do with them.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, every woman, you got to try it,

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Speaker 3: and then you're going to realize that was NA can't

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Speaker 3: do that. Just skip to the let me get some

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Speaker 3: help part y'all. I wish we had more time. I

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: usually would end the show with a brown booster, a

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Speaker 3: brown break, but I'm only going to give us the

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Speaker 3: option of a brown boost. I want to boost something

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Speaker 3: you love about being a woman today in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: It's gotta be something.

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Speaker 4: Um let me think you know what.

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Speaker 2: I will just say it's just because my birthday just passed.

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Speaker 2: I still love getting flowers, like.

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Speaker 5: Just old school, Like my husband comes home with like

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Speaker 5: a bouquet of flowers.

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Speaker 2: And what's been really lovely this past birthday. I got

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Speaker 2: a lot of flowers just from other women, just like

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Speaker 2: being sent to me. And so whoever came up with

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Speaker 2: the phrase of like give you know, like give your

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Speaker 2: woman their flowers or whatever, like, people are taking it

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Speaker 2: really serious in twenty twenty six, and I'm here for it.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I can do for you too.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say I love our stories.

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Speaker 1: I think women in twenty twenty six are telling more

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Speaker 1: stories now than we ever have before about things that

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Speaker 1: happened to us fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, forty

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Speaker 1: years ago. Like we're saying the thing that we experienced

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Speaker 1: in a way that is entertaining, in a way that

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Speaker 1: is helpful, that people can learn from, and in some

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Speaker 1: cases that's healing to you. I think for a long

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Speaker 1: time women have just internalized our stories and I think

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Speaker 1: this is my low key theory that a lot of

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Speaker 1: that is why so many of us are struggling.

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Speaker 4: With ADHD later in life. It's because like, you didn't

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Speaker 4: didn't get it out, you've never said it.

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Speaker 1: And so now we're in this era where like women

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Speaker 1: are telling stories, they're telling jokes, they're more open, they're

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Speaker 1: using the full span of the English language, including.

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Speaker 4: The words that we used to not be able to say. Like,

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Speaker 4: it's just great.

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Speaker 1: I just I love conversations with women these days more

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Speaker 1: than any other time. And that's not to say I

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Speaker 1: didn't love them before, but I just like now I'm

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Speaker 1: meeting more honest women who are clear on how they feel,

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Speaker 1: how they think, and they're willing to tell you that,

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Speaker 1: like almost immediately upond meeting them, like it's not something

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: you got to dig for or be like a bestie

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01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: with them, like you could could just chat it's great.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. I thought about too, Bernadette doing

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Speaker 3: your improv or your comedy. I want to I want

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Speaker 3: to know where we can find that. That's awesome. I

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Speaker 3: have been thinking about changing female friendships and like my

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: own relationship with like the idea of a friendship at

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01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: this stage in my life, and I really appreciate the

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Speaker 3: seasoned female friendships and how and I say friendships, but

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Speaker 3: I don't like quantity is not as important as quality.

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Speaker 3: But there are the way that women, older women especially,

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Speaker 3: have taken care of me in this season of my life,

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 3: and like will do a thing for me, like literally

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: hang a rotisserie chicken on my doorknob because they know

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Speaker 3: I'm going through it, or send me something like I

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01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 3: saw one of my very good friends this weekend. I

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Speaker 3: was complaining about my two year old who has been

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 3: fighting sleep like a banshee gremlin demon child every night.

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Speaker 3: And by the time I got home from that playdate.

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Speaker 3: Now you can say which one about Amazon delivery, but

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Speaker 3: she had delivered me some melatonin drops for the baby.

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Speaker 3: And that's good looking out. You know, I really did

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Speaker 3: need that. And you know, so I just really appreciate

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Speaker 3: the way that we can. I think our caregiving is

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Speaker 3: a huge asset. It is not to be taken advantage of.

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Speaker 3: And I think that we just we take care of

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Speaker 3: each other like no one else can. And I love

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Speaker 3: that about being a woman and being cared for by

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Speaker 3: the women in my life today. Sweet we too, Oh well,

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Speaker 3: this has been really lovely and I could not have

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Speaker 3: come up with a better pair to join me at

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Speaker 3: the Brown Table this week. So thank y'all so much

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Speaker 3: forgiving me your time. I really really value what I

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01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: value each of you so much and keep doing the

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Speaker 3: work that you're doing and whatever way I can support it.

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Speaker 3: You know, y'all been doing an incredible job, you know,

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Speaker 3: talking about your your products, your businesses while you're here.

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Speaker 3: But just for if you just didn't if you didn't

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Speaker 3: hear it Bernadette's book, it's called Crush Your Money Goals

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Speaker 3: and where can people join if they want to your

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 3: community or you're become a client of yours, Bernadette, are

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Speaker 3: you accepting any new clients you have?

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Speaker 5: Do we go cohort style now?

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Speaker 2: So if you want to be on the wait list

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Speaker 2: for being a client, being a potential founder that I

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Speaker 2: invest in, it's all one list because that's all I'm

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Speaker 2: that's all I have capacity.

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Speaker 5: For right now.

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Speaker 2: It's Crush your Money Goals dot com slash free guide,

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Speaker 2: and I am specifically looking for women who are building

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Speaker 2: human centered businesses that support their local communities.

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Speaker 3: Lovely and then Kirsten of course your podcast Rich and

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Speaker 3: Regular Everyone go listen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got going on.

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Speaker 1: We got a YouTube channel under the same name, rich

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Speaker 1: and Regular. We're on Instagram. We have our website richregular

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01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: dot com. You can hit me up on LinkedIn. I

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: don't have a group to coach, but maybe maybe I'll

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: start one. Maybe I'll maybe I'll join in and start

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Speaker 1: to give this advice to the masses.

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Speaker 3: Be a guest coach.

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01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, there we go.

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01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 5: A guest coach is the best one, come to mind.

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01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I did before I started a podcast.

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: It's like a friend that has a boat, Like, why

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Speaker 1: would I buy one?

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Speaker 4: You got yours?

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Speaker 3: Let paperwork done for you? Hell yeah, right, all right,

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Speaker 3: y'all be a fam. Please share this episode with a girlfriend,

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01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 3: a sister, auntie, cousin, whoever. Someone that you love and

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: adore needs to hear this show. And until next time,

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Speaker 3: I will see y'all Back at Brown Ambition. Bye. And

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Speaker 3: before I go, ba Fam, I want to shout out

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Speaker 3: the team that helps make Brown Ambition possible. Huge thanks

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: to my fam at iHeartRadio Katrina Norvel and Jenna Cagel,

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Speaker 3: my worker Bees, behind the scenes booking assistant Brittany Laier,

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 3: and virtual assistant Cameron McNair who keep me organized, and

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: of course my editor, Courtney Dean. Thank y'all so much

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Speaker 3: for supporting the show. If you love Brown Ambition, share

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Speaker 3: it with a friend, tag us on social and don't

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: forget to leave a comment or review Until next time.

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Speaker 3: By BA Fam