1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to How to Citizen with barratun Day, a show 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: where we reimagine the word citizen as a verb, reclaim 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: it from those who have weaponized it, and remind ourselves 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: how to wield our collective power. I'm barratun Day. We 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: want this show to do a few things for you, 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: make you feel better and more empowered, and give you 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: things to do to improve your community and our democracy 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: as a whole. That feels super essential right now as 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: the election season ratchets up and we get more dispirited 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: and assaulted by a lot of noise, keep your head 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: up and if you need to just take a time out, 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: trust me, I get it. I truly hope this episode 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: how restore you a bit. It's designed to give you 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: a turbo boost of people power. We've recorded it with 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: our live Zoom audience as usual, which you can join 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: by visiting how to citizen dot com. Sign up for 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: my emails or text messages. That's where we put the 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: invite to protect our Zoom universe. 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In this episode of How to 26 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Citizen with barretton Day, we are going to explore two 27 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: things that get a lot of lip service in the 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: worlds of philanthropy and democracy, civic participation and youth empowerment. 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Can you hear the white papers ringing in your hair 30 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: and an uninspiring fashion when those terms bring not so 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: loudly in the streets. Civics, as we've talked about it 32 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: on this show, is a topic that's gets very watered 33 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: down out there in the quote unquote real world. There 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: a civic education and participation project that often shy away 35 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: from addressing the idea of people power, the history of 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: injustice in this country and why our systems are the 37 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: way they are, the questions about power in the system 38 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: and who benefits from those decisions, and why the grounding 39 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: in that deep understanding of power. Instead, this diluded version 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: of civics, it focuses on the idea of being informed 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: and making sure your representative knows your views and maybe volunteering, maybe, 42 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: And none of those are bad things. They are in 43 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: fact necessary, but they're not sufficient. They aren't the whole picture, 44 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: and they miss key aspects that I just mentioned would 45 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: come down to true accountability and things that make real 46 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: change happen. We think this idea of youth empowerment and 47 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: civic participation needs a reset because at the same time 48 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: we're facing some pretty big challenges I don't know, climate change, 49 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: racial inequality, economic inequality, and the purposeful erosion of our 50 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: democratic institution. And during all that we hear this refrain 51 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: the youth will save us. It's now up to the kids. 52 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: This dastardly commencement speech which burdens the next generation with 53 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the failures of all those who came before, who should 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: have handled it. It offends me. That's not how we 55 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: do that. That is not fair. We don't tell kids 56 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: to clean your room and then clean our rooms too. 57 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: I say to the youth, welcome to our democratic society. 58 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: We will be there with you, beside the front and 59 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: sometimes behind to let you leave. Now we hear this 60 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: talk about many in the adult population talking about gen 61 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: z is self obsessed and checked out with social media, 62 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: and they're disengaged and they can't be counted on to vote. 63 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: At the same time, we put the pressure of the 64 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: literal world on them. We brate them for not believing 65 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: in institutions. We've given them very little reason to believe it. 66 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that this generation is putting pressure 67 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: on the system in their own way and have their 68 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: own savvy critique as to how change will happen. Given 69 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: my perspective on this, you're gonna understand why I was 70 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: thrilled to learn about this relatively new organization and campaign 71 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: that is tackling these things head on, but in a 72 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: very new, reel and promising way. I am rilled to 73 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: welcome the co founder and CEO of Civics Unplugged, Josh Thompson, 74 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: along with Zoe Jenkins, a CIVICS Campaign Steering Committee member, 75 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: to talk with me today about the founding of Civics 76 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Unplugged and the launch of their Civics twenty thirty campaign. 77 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Welcome Josh, Welcome Zoe. What is the mission of Civics 78 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: Unplugged and what was the motivation for founding it? So 79 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: you want to take the mission and I'll talk a 80 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: little bit about the founding. Sure that sounds great. So 81 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: it's in everybody's email bio. The kids will lead. You know, 82 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: we have so many systems that are falling apart, and 83 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: we're tuned. I thank you phrased it perfectly. You know, 84 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: we're putting the impetus on Generation Z while also not 85 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: believing in them, and so it's civic unplugged. We're totally 86 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: flipping that that the kids aren't just the future, you know, 87 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: they aren't going to just be our future presidents and 88 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: our future leaders. They're going to be leading us right now. 89 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: And we're seeing that just perfectly in this moment. So 90 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I think that's really demonstrated by the fact that our 91 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: steering committee, which I'm a part of, we're all high schoolers, 92 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: all under the age of eighteen, helping run a campaign 93 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to find other Gen Z projects and stuff like this 94 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: isn't being done because we're not trusting kids to lead 95 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: when we know that they have all the power and 96 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: the knowledge and the spirit to be able to do so. 97 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: So I think that is really the core of our 98 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: mission is really operationalizing that and letting kids start leading 99 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: right now because we desperately need the leadership of young people. 100 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: If that's not been made any clear by everything that's 101 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: going on, and I'll toss it over the Josh to 102 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about the founding. I was 103 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: part of a mission of Senator Corey Booker from New 104 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Jersey and from Newark, New Jersey, and he was deciding 105 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: to run for the highest office in our country. And 106 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: he's helped me so much in life that it's not 107 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: even a question that when he does something, I usually 108 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: tell people, do you need me or want me? With Corey, 109 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: it's either one, I'm in. And so I was traveling 110 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: around the country and I was at all these different 111 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: rallies and convenings and a lot of campaign not his 112 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: others and other adults. We're looking out into the rallies 113 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: and saying, I can't believe the adults and these parents 114 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: dragged these kids out, And I was like, you know what, 115 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: I think it's the other way around, and there's only 116 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: one way to find out, which is to get out there. 117 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: And started talking to the kids, and I call them 118 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: kids in our community. They asked to be identified as that, 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: and so yeah, all the things I think that we 120 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: may all in this community have a feeling of, you know, 121 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: I would go up to someone like Zoe, and I 122 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: would say, hey, did you get dragged out here? And 123 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: the big do you know what I had to do 124 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: to get my mom out here? Like she's got to 125 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: be more involved, Like I had to bring her out 126 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: here to tell her where it was, to get her there, 127 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: getting here on time. And that's just when it started 128 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: to come together. And it's a bit of a misnomer. 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: Sure you introduced me as as the CEO of civics 130 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Unplug my contract and in my title within the community 131 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: is that I'm the executive Assistant to Generation Z. It 132 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: is an intergenerational theme of service and in action and service. 133 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: But it started with us saying, let's have an all inclusive, 134 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: paid for a trip to our nation's capital. Let's start 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: their accesses everything. We say that kids will be the change, 136 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: but they've never even been to the nation's capital, majority 137 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: of them. So I started going around speaking about that 138 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: kind of connective tissue. And that's when I met a 139 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: couple other kids and young folks and another co founder, 140 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Gary Shane, who was part of Google and building out 141 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the Google Cloud, and he said, I'm gonna build your 142 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: digital platform, And I said, what digital platform? We're all 143 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: going to d c and he goes right, I'm gonna 144 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: build your digital platform. And that's when we started to 145 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: bring in this community that has led us to today. 146 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: Before we catch up to today, Josh, I want to 147 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: go a little bit further into your background because what 148 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: you shared is fascinating. What I've learned about you before 149 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: the Corey Booker speed dial moment is also fascinating. Okay, 150 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: And you talk a bit about your personal journey pre 151 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: that with St. Benedict's and even a bit of your childhood. 152 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm a multiple time high school dropout. Talk about a 153 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: system not serving right, just getting handed one education system 154 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: was was not serving in that sense. And for the 155 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: age of eleven, lived in over five states, you know, 156 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: a couple dozen homes, but the home and where I 157 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: became a man, as I say, is in Newark, New Jersey, 158 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: and at St. Benedic's And you know, guiding in into 159 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: that community. St. Benedict's really threw me for many many reasons. 160 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: One father Edwin Leahy much like our community. Yeah he's 161 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the headmaster, but no way that the kids run that 162 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: entire school. And Father Revan found me at a time 163 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: where I had no community, did not know where the 164 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: next place I was going to sleep, and he welcomed 165 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: me in to this experience that I'm so thankful for 166 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: everything at St. Benedic's. It was the first time where 167 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: I was brought in and the first day I went 168 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: up to him, sucked my teeth, told him everything I 169 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: didn't even experienced it. I told him everything that I 170 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: didn't like about the school, and he goes, great, don't 171 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: bring me problems, bring me solutions. And even more to 172 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: the story is we know at St. Benedict's, so there's 173 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: a boarding facility there and a majority of us in 174 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: that boarding facility are in a situation where we don't 175 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: have parents, need not be with our parents, or we 176 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: need a more structured community in that sense. And that's 177 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: where I learned, and it was called out that there's 178 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: a time in my life all I wanted was a 179 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: door to hide me from everyone, right, like, I'm good, 180 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: Just just put me behind the door and I'll be 181 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: all right. Well, the dormitory that I was put in, 182 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: they didn't have doors. H And I found out that 183 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: because if you are depressed, if you're feeling this anxiety, 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: what you do is retreat. So the whole concept of St. 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Benedic's is living out in brotherhood and our sisterhood as 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: we welcome young women. When I was brought into the 187 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: home of St. Benedict's, that is when I met the 188 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: goofy thirty one year old wearing birkenstocks, Corey Booker mayor, 189 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: a hopeful running for our city. And you know, I'm 190 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: part of what was called the Street Fight Gang and 191 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: worked the Central Ward. I used to work it when 192 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: I was not in high school, hustling, playing basketball, putting 193 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: around ball through a round hoop. And you know, I 194 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: found Corey. I found Forget a Campaign. I found his 195 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: movement right. He was welcoming in people who were not 196 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: of the age to vote like me, people because of 197 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: our criminal justice system and equities, had lost their right 198 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: to vote. And that's when it was really imparted upon me. 199 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: If sure, Corey wanted to win and he knows how 200 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: to account votes, but it was something bigger, as he said, Josh, 201 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: what were you doing with your time before this movement? 202 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: So I met him at the same time I met 203 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: my wife to be and that's when I started to 204 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: get deeply involved as well with the Jackie Robinson Foundation. MS. 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Rachel Robinson is an angel on this earth, and I 206 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: started to uh intern and work around there, which the 207 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: motto is education as our pitch. So I never had 208 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: a choice, man, uh and I'm happy for that. So 209 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: in a roundabout way, that's some of the background, thank 210 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: you for going there. A bit with us. Elphant helps 211 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: to understand where you're at. I know him, where you've 212 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: come from. A bit, Zoe, I want to know a 213 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: bit more about you and your connection to Civics Unplugged. 214 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: How did you get connected to this merry band? Yeah, so, 215 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: I guess I'll walk back because I'm I was an 216 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: inaugural fellow with CUS. So I applied last November, but 217 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: I want to go back a little bit of how 218 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: did I even, you know, come to the point of 219 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: wanting to apply? Um So, my mom, she is a 220 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: c p A. She's an accountant. She worked at her 221 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: parents trash company. They were first generation college students, paid 222 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: for it on their own, got alone during Jim Crow, 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: which was really difficult for African Americans, and so they 224 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: really instilled in her and all of their children that's 225 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: like you're going to college or you're not. My child, 226 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: like education was like the pathway to success. You know, 227 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: for them to be able to start a trash company 228 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: that's still profitable fifty years later. They're like, Yeah, you're 229 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: going to college and you need to take your school 230 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: work very seriously. And that's something that she and my 231 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: father have both instilled in need. And then going through 232 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: elementary and middle school with you know, that attitude and 233 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of students who don't have that attitude 234 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: for a myriad of reasons. There are a lot of 235 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: students who I guess, quote unquote don't care about school, 236 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: but there's something going on at home that's why they're 237 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: not caring about school, or you know, there's something going 238 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: on with how we're catering to different types of students. 239 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: There's something with the way that we handled discipline in 240 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: school that makes students not want to go. And so 241 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: with all of that experience, I got involved with the 242 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: group in Kentucky around education advocacy and student waste Because 243 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: students go to school thirty five hours a week, it's 244 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a full time job, but they're not at the decision 245 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: making table deciding what's going to be on our curriculum, 246 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: how are we going to discipline students, what does the 247 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: school they look like, and so I've been doing that work. Um, 248 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'm approaching almost four years, four or five 249 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: years of doing that work. And then the application specifics 250 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: on PLUG came about, and I was like, Wow, this 251 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: is a great opportunity to take you know, education work 252 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: to a macro's scale. Um. I think I kind of 253 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: skimmed over the word civics because I was like, that 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: doesn't apply to me. Education and civics. It's not the 255 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: same thing. And then I think probably within like three 256 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: weeks of being in the Fellowship, I was like, oh wait. 257 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: I was like education, reform, civics, and that's all the 258 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: same stuff. And I was like, this is a great 259 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of unite those two things. And then 260 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, going through the Fellowship, we had our launch 261 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: event for Civic and I hosted that event um where 262 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: we had Corey Booker speak, we had Andrew Yang, and 263 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: then was kind of the launch pad for me getting 264 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: more involved with the steering committee. And then I'm just 265 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: getting more committed ever since. And it's just it's been 266 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: fantastic the whole way through. Zoe used the word launch pad, 267 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: and now I want to give you an opportunity to 268 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: talk about this organization you launched, tell us the name 269 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: and what your mission is. Okay. So with Civics Unplugged, 270 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: I launched a diversity inclusion, equity and anti racism training 271 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,119 Speaker 1: for gen z Ears called DICE and it was inspired 272 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: off of some stuff that happened in my own school. UM. 273 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: I was in this math and science program predominantly white 274 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: and Asian students, and a lot of them were using 275 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: the N word, and I was like trying to figure out, 276 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: how do I like educate my peers on why that's 277 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: not appropriate? And I think what I realized that I 278 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: was like, I've been in k through troup education all 279 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: my life and I cannot even put the words to 280 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: it of how do I explain to someone why that's 281 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: exclusive language and why that's not okay. And So, with 282 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of extra time during quarantine, with school 283 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: being were flexible, I did a lot more research into 284 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: there must be some kind of diversity inclusion training for 285 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: young people right Apparently that's not the thing, and so 286 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: I partnered with some people at the University of Kentucky, 287 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: partnered with Verda, one of the co founders, and just 288 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: an amazing resource and all things anti racism and see 289 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: you to create a curriculum that's free and open source, 290 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: and we're starting our own pilot cohorts here in the 291 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: next week or so. So just super exciting to try 292 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: and get this to as many young people as possible 293 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: because it's so important. It always blows my mind that 294 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: we were on this train probably in February, so before 295 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of us were I think more in tune 296 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: everything going on, and so we were just kind of, 297 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, perfectly positioned I think, to really jump off 298 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: in the summer here. How old are you doing, I'm 299 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: seventeen years old. I have a huge smile on my 300 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: face right now. I also have noting that I think 301 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: part of why this training didn't exist is because we 302 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: have this assumption that young people just magically no things. 303 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: But like the next generation just it's in the air, 304 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: they breathe different air, or their genetics are slightly modified 305 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: to a more woke setting, and uh, someone's got to 306 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: be a part of that educational process. So I'm really 307 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: grateful for the effort you've taken to either of you. 308 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: You know, do you have this term in your movement 309 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: called civic superheroes? Who or what is a civic superhero 310 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: to you. So, you know, I think we all have superheroes. 311 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Like when we were younger, we all looked up the 312 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Superman and Batman. We were like, we I love these superheroes. 313 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: They're so powerful and they're going to save the world. 314 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, we ascribe to them 315 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: the ability to fly, this crazy ingenuity, all of this 316 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: wealth in the case of Batman, digeneral to buy any 317 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: gadget that you want. And you know, I think our 318 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: society is in the place where we need superheroes. We 319 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: need people to look up to who we know that 320 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: these are the people leading systems change. And so I 321 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: think that that is the inspiration behind the use of 322 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: the word. I mean, we would normally call them. These 323 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: are icon hants. They're they're tighten social entrepreneurs. I mean, 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: they're great words and they describe who they are, but 325 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: they don't really get at the powerfulness of somebody who 326 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: can really unite a group of people around the betterment 327 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: of a society. And so I think that's a lot 328 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: of what our language at civics and plugs about. We're 329 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: all space themed, all astronaut themed, talking about lift off. 330 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: You know, everybody, and it's just an astronaut kind of 331 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: exploring the realm of space and just that representing the 332 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: social betterment, which I think is so crucial to I 333 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: think that the whole visionary culture that we've created within 334 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: our organization. Visionary is sometimes a word overused, but I 335 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: think in the case of your organization, you actually have 336 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: a vision. It's not vision, it's a twenty thirty vision. 337 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I think you call it CIVICS. There's a plan. There's 338 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: people involved in moving us toward it. You call them builders. 339 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: What is the CIVICS vision and what motivate someone to 340 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: be a builder in that, you know, in achieving that vision. 341 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: So someone asked me the other day, Josh, what's your 342 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: role at CIVICS Unplugged? I said, to pick fights with 343 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: the kids that I consistently lose, right, and that that's 344 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: like one of the funnest things in the world. But 345 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: that dialogue is super important. Right. It's not just hey, 346 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: I disagree with something, so let's no no, why, how? 347 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: What's the research behind it? Don't just say I don't 348 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: like the system and throw to have you experienced it? 349 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: Have you gone gone all the way? And all the 350 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: adults that you see recognized as civic superheroes. They were 351 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: all selected and elected by by our community, which was 352 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: one of the funnest thing launching CI. When Corey was 353 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: selected or you know the rock it was, it was 354 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: the easiest outreach I've ever done. I literally would drop 355 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: a line of like, you know, I can care less 356 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: if you do this. The fellows in the community have 357 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: selected you and and to see the speed of the 358 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: civic superheroes. That so the intuition of the kids were remarkable, 359 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: but you know, the launch of it. When I picked 360 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: the first fight, it made me roll my right that 361 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the community had come up with this ten year pledge. 362 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I've been in politics and government and public service. How 363 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: many superintendent five year plans that I heard about? I 364 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: got a three year strategy of five year turnaround plans. 365 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: Is like, here we go, we're recreating this other generation 366 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: of a plan that's going to be written like a 367 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: white paper, put on a shelf and get dusty. And 368 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: that's when one of the community member said, nope, here's 369 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: the deal with the plan. And then so we talk 370 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: about how do you become a building and how that's evolved, 371 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: they said, adults, A lot of the way stress out 372 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: about what to have for lunch tomorrow. The ten year 373 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: plan is when I make my tenure pledge around climate change, 374 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: that informs what I'm going to have for lunch for 375 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: the next ten years, the impact that that has on 376 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: the environment, and that is the sense of actionable pledges. 377 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: And that's when I got it, and then that's when 378 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: Zoe and the kids just ran with it. So so 379 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about the process and how 380 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: you become a builder, yeah, how you become a builder 381 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: is just that you're committing to build a better So 382 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: at the end of our fellowship, all of the fellows 383 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: who were to become builders created their own tenure pledges. 384 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: They designed what is the ideal community? What is our 385 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: ideal democracy? What am I personally going to do over 386 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: the next year, five years, ten years to realize that mission. 387 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: We all signed a declaration where we laid out this 388 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: is what we want to look like, this is how 389 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: all of our individual pledges play into that. This is 390 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: how our community is going to be governed. We have 391 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: probably as flat of a structure as possible. The only 392 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: reason we need seriing Committee members is because he needs somebody, 393 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: I guess to just sit in the room every Monday, 394 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: because not everyone can get there Monday nights, but the 395 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: whole Builder community votes on everything um and so yeah, 396 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: just being a builder just means that you're committed to 397 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: building the future of what are some examples of the 398 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: picture of your painting. So my own personal Builder pledge 399 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: revolves a lot around dice, a lot around how can 400 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: we get people to be more vulnerable, be able to 401 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: listen to other people, and just work more collaboratively organically. 402 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of other people's bludges, like 403 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: what Josh mentioned that involve around climate change. We have 404 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: people who are focused on election reforms, and it's just 405 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: a really diverse array of what people are committing to. 406 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: But I would say, you know, getting a chance to 407 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: see some of our other Builders pledges, which you can 408 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: also actually find on our website. For the most part, 409 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: a lot of our own pledges are just out there 410 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: for people to see and to ask us about building 411 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: a society and the community that listens to everybody, and 412 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: I think just works work concretely together than we are 413 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: right now, because that's the basis of any kind of 414 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: systems change. You need to be listening to the people 415 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: who are on the front lines, the people who are 416 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: experiencing it, but just making the through line of connecting 417 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: it and you know, bringing the value proposition to every 418 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: single citizen. What are some of the motivations of the 419 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: builders in this community. I'll say that something our co 420 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: founder mentioned to me recently, and I don't even think 421 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I totally realized it, is that every single builder has 422 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: some kind of chip on their shoulder. But like, you know, 423 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: you don't just wake up in life wanting to, you know, 424 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: totally flip all the systems that you've been experiencing and 425 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: living through like on their head. You don't just wake 426 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: up wanting to do that. There has to be something 427 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: that happens, which is sad. We we want everybody to 428 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: see that value add But I think the motivation is 429 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: that people see a problem, they're experiencing a problem, they 430 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: know someone who's experiencing a problem with the system. They've 431 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, taken I guess, all of the traditional routes, 432 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: and at some point they realized they were like, no 433 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: one else is going to do something about this. I 434 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: have to be the one who steps up and does it. 435 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: And you know, there are a lot of natural barriers, 436 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: especially for young people. And you know, if you're under 437 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen, you can't sign certain checks, you 438 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: can't you create certain contracts about your parents being there. 439 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: And that I think is the real beauty of Josh 440 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: and the rest of the co founders. They have a 441 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of value, I assure you, but huge values that 442 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: they're over the h b T, thank CAI contracts for 443 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: us and just really operationalize that the kids can lead. 444 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of superficial barriers that we 445 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: place on young people, on people of color, and we 446 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: place on women, that we place on various other people 447 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: of different social locations, but they're virtual barriers and their 448 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: barriers that we had civic exemplud are committed to helping 449 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: people break the move past. Can you explain even more 450 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: house Civics Unplugged differs from existing civic engagement work. It's 451 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: been natural, Barritt Unday, in terms of how we're different, 452 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: one being we consistently get this feedback from our partners, Hey, 453 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: we are kid like, like their advisory y'all are kid 454 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: heavy and and we're working with our community to really 455 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: understand that that for them, they can't just flip that switch. 456 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: They just can't make that culture chain organizationally overnight. Right. 457 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: We need to walk together, we need to learn together, 458 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: and we share our mistakes consistently. But what we really 459 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: found is when the Fellows started to be recognized for 460 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: their work two things. One was other nonprofit or more 461 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: specifically political campaigns wanted access to our kids. Cool, we 462 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: we are never we are decentralized, we're not the barrier. 463 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: But when I started asking what they wanted to do, 464 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: they said, well, be interns. I said, cool, what do 465 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: you want them to do? I want them to run 466 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: our product, our social media campaign. Uh, think about how 467 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: we do engage youth. I was like, that's a leadership position, 468 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: that's not an internship. So show me the budget that 469 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: you have to recognize that. And we were met with 470 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot of them saying, okay, I'm with you. It 471 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: is leadership, but we don't have the budget. And I said, cool, 472 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: we'll chip in. We're not going to let budget get 473 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: in the way of these youth attaching themselves as leaders. 474 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: We're investing capital directly into these projects like Zoey's, like 475 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: the project down in St. Louis. Talk about a chip 476 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: on your shoulder, Our builder down in St. Louis is 477 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: working and has been recognized statewide that you need a 478 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: notary to recognize your mail in ballot. And he has 479 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: built this organization and and got funding to provide access 480 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: to notaries and even beyond. And he called me one 481 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: night with a list of literally like five thousand names. 482 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: He's like, I need connections to all these people. I said, cool, 483 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I know most of them. Why and he goes, I 484 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: did a complete internet search and anyone that has ever 485 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: said young people need to vote, I'm going after him 486 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: on this because if they actually mean it, they will 487 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: help with this. And I was like, that is that 488 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: mentality that we are just lifting up at civic Umplogers 489 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: are remarkable? That is remarkable. I mean talk about calling 490 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: someone in that is what that means. The boldness of 491 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: someone stepping up to that degree is beautiful. I had 492 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: my own experience with a gen Z leader within the 493 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: climate space who hit me up and she's like, you're 494 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: on TV a lot. I need introductions to all these 495 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: bookers so they can hear directly from the most impacted 496 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: generation about the biggest crisis and species has ever faced. 497 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: You can join our zoom Welcome to my every morning. 498 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Many yes, so so just you know, despite or in 499 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: addition to this focus on gen Z, your movement and 500 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: campaigns have an intergenerational flavor to them. Can you share 501 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: more about that perspective how you're achieving that other than 502 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: using people over eighteen to sign checks. Appreciate you, Zoe? Um, yeah, 503 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: we are not anti generational, right, we are not that. 504 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Okay boomer movement which is not gen Z is caused 505 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: at that and really from the founding ethos back to man, 506 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: I wish this existed when I was always aged right 507 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: the amount of things that I did in my public 508 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: service that I'm proud of, but it could have been 509 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot more impactful if I understood the system as 510 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: opposed to the issue. I understood my issue, I didn't 511 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: know its system in which it existed in And with 512 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: age comes wisdom, no matter what that wisdom its, whether 513 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: sharpening your own conviction or learning from what they have 514 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: carried out. So our community is fourteen years old, all 515 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: the way up to ninety four of individuals that have 516 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: signed pledges and if if committed and rolled up their sleeves, 517 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: and it comes in in a lot of different forms 518 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: and fashions, but that superhero it's not even superhero theme. 519 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: We are superheroes, right, People say, oh, you lean into it. No, no, 520 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: we we are explorers, we are astronauts, We are superheroes. 521 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: We are building the largest democracy movement Forget America that 522 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: this world has ever seen. And we say that with 523 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: humility and with conviction. And so we asked the intergenerational 524 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: of Okay, I see your LinkedIn. I see that you're 525 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: a good CEO. That's great. What is your actual superpower? 526 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: And we have this mantra in the community you have 527 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: to lean in and what you're good at to to 528 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: show that you can lift this community up. But what's 529 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: the other side of you that you don't get the 530 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: flex all that often? And one lean into what you're 531 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: good at and then lean into that side so that 532 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: there's everything from providing jobs, providing mentorship, to joining boards 533 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: of of the organizations and movements that are fellows and 534 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: builders aren't launching. I don't know if I did that 535 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: just to Zoe, you tell me, I think so, And 536 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: I think he framed it perfectly. There's a lot of wisdom, 537 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: all of the co founders, all of the board members. 538 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at their linked in, but 539 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: you can also just talk to them, and I've been amazed. 540 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm like wow, I'm like, these people are doing stuff 541 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: that like I want to do, and like, I know, 542 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: I got that feeling when I talked to Nick, for example, 543 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: because he used to be an educator and went to 544 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: law school and now I was doing you know, civic 545 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: some plug work and leading program development. I was like wow, 546 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is like the education person that like 547 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: I've always needed to talk to. And so I know, 548 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: I joked that you know so much of their purposes 549 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: of administrative assistance, but there's an even added I mean, 550 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: they're not assistance, their administrative assistance. Yeah, there's a lot 551 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: of feedback, there's a lot of advice, there's a lot 552 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: of help that comes from having these adults. I can't 553 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: tell you how many times I have slapped Gary late night, 554 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: like Gary, I'm trying to figure out how to do 555 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: this tech thing, or Gary, how do you figure out 556 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: you know this, because I'm trying to figure out, like 557 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: how do I frame this for a college essay. He's great, 558 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: responds so quickly and it's always there, but then you know, 559 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: it's it goes back and forth. So I would say 560 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: that not only are all of the co founders mentors, 561 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: but I think we're also just friends. And I don't 562 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: think that young people get to have that relationship with 563 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: adults all the time where it's like you rely on them, 564 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: but they just as much rely on you as well, 565 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: And that's not a dynamic that you see a lot. 566 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: I think when young people have mentors and it's been 567 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: a really powerful and transformational experience. You've talked a bit 568 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: about the flat organizational structure, about being executive assistance to 569 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: the generation. From Josh's perspective, what are some of the 570 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: top technologies or even process you that you have in 571 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: place that are critical to powering this campaign and it's 572 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: actually governing in this different way, I'll say, in terms 573 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: of technology, Slack number one. I don't think anything that's 574 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: going on and see you would exist without Slack. The 575 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: ability to just message anybody in Slack whenever you want to. 576 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: It's just so powerful too. I think, just like flattening 577 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: that organizational structure. You know, when you have an idea 578 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: and you want the steering committee to hear it, you 579 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: just at all of them in a message. You're like, hey, 580 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: at steering committee, I want you to think about this, 581 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: or hey, or you can add anybody on the CU team. Hey, 582 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: I want you to look at this, and you get 583 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: the notification. And we have I think, a really strong 584 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: culture of like when someone has an idea, when someone 585 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: wants to experiment, you go all in. You're you're supposed 586 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: to help them figure it out. And I think that's 587 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: a really powerful attitude we all have. It's just that 588 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: we want to experience because that's the only way you 589 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: figure out how to do things better. And so while 590 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: we have, you know, a strong culture that we have traditions, 591 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: we're always looking for ways to change that and to 592 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: make it better. And we're conducive for everybody. Like, for example, 593 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: we have an opportunities channel where people can share things, 594 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: and so sometimes in Slack you can notify everybody in 595 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: the Slack workspace. So like all one hundred and eighty 596 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: six builders would get notified every time somebody hosts an 597 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: opportunity and someone was like, hey, that's a lot of 598 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: notifications in the day. Becauld we maybe condense this. Can 599 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: we do like a weekly thing? And now we do. 600 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: We we round ups and that's something that I think 601 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: in a more hierarchical organization would have taken weeks to 602 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: figure out, and we we made that change in two 603 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: days because I think it's really powerful and really key. 604 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: I think to how fast civic some plot is able 605 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: to move on a lot of things. I like the 606 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: idea of my city council being available to me on 607 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Slack and I were like, hey, dude, fix this, this 608 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: isn't right. Change the funding of the police. Do it 609 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: your account of UM. I have one question that we 610 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: ask all our guests now, which is this show sees 611 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: citizen as a verb more so than a legal status. 612 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: And so if you interpret citizens as a verb for 613 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: both of you, how would you define the word citizen? 614 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: And I think, like two words I guess come to mind. 615 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: I guess it's just vulnerability, knowing that you don't know everything, 616 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: and it's important to seek out the voices and the 617 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: information that you're not hearing. But it can really shape 618 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the kind of change that we can create. And then 619 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I think mobilizing. You know, I think when you have 620 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: a real, a great idea, when you're really passionate about something, 621 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: it's important to bring people along. The co founders to 622 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: see you could have just run on this idea of 623 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: what do we want to look like, let's just do 624 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: this as a group. But you know, they knew that 625 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: they needed young people behind that, and that's why they 626 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: put together the fellowship, That's why they started see you, 627 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: because young people had to come and be on that 628 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: mission with them. And that's you know, an impetus. It's 629 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: also been put on all of us. Is we, in 630 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: many cases have the privilege of being able to be 631 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: a part of this community, to be able to check 632 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: slack and every hour or so? How can we bring 633 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: young people who aren't able to do that, or how 634 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: can we bring young people who aren't engaged yet into 635 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: this movement as well? And Josh, for you, how would 636 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: you define citizen if you interpret it as a verb? 637 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm bad with verbs and adjectives and stuff like that, 638 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: so I'll just riff on as real. But what I 639 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: think about it is just that whole idea of how 640 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: boring is life? If you're actually the smartest one in 641 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: the room. That is a position I never want any 642 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: myself to be in, but a lot of us to 643 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: be in. Uh So I think about that in terms 644 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: of how you do citizen to consistently seek out communities 645 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: that are more active, smarter, intelligent, thoughtful than you. And 646 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: the second one is how you and I vibed on 647 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: it as I was rooted in the love of Jackie 648 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Robinson's legacy and had the privilege to grow up there 649 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: and Mr Robinson wrote a book First Class Citizenship and 650 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: talk about him turning it into a verb way post 651 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: his professional baseball career. It picks up of what he 652 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: did thereafter to make citizen a verb and more active 653 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: in people's life. So that that's what comes to mind. 654 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: And now we're going to go to questions. I'm starting 655 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: with this first one in terms of leadership. Have you 656 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: found it more effective to empower people to become leaders 657 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: or has it been more effective to bring together and 658 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: catalyze people who already are taking action as leaders? So 659 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: that has been one of the coolest things to play out. 660 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: So when we announced to the community that hey, you 661 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: went through this fellowship, you poured it in with us, 662 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: and now we're going to invest in your project, so 663 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: right that project plan will invest in it. Once again, 664 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: I was wrong. I figured, you know, all, a couple 665 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: hundred plus fellows moving into builders would have made their 666 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: own proposal. What we did see was about of them 667 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: bringing work from other folks and their peers that they 668 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: already saw happening in the community, saying I lean in 669 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, which is often more important, and they 670 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: need the support they need this community. And then about 671 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: the other fifty cent to say, hey, you know, I'm 672 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: the leader, this is what I want to want to 673 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: head up. And that that was really something very hopeful 674 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 1: that I experienced. There's a follow on in our next 675 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: question from Jennen's horn. Not all kids are leaders. How 676 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: can kids who aren't into leadership still be involved? Yeah, 677 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: I can take that. You You don't have to lead 678 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: in an organization. You don't have to be on the 679 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: steering committee. Uh. So much of everything that See You 680 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: has done would not have happened without people just doing 681 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: the work. And I mean, like we have leaders who 682 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: are doing the working. Of course, those are the front 683 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: people who are maybe you know, on podcasts like this, 684 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: or people who are going out and kind of evangelizing 685 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: the message. Um, but you know, we wrote a ton 686 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: of song parodies to invite of our civic superheroes to 687 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: come to commence. And that's work that every builder participate in. 688 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: We had builders who didn't submit their own projects, but man, 689 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: they can write some really good Drake parodies. I I 690 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: didn't even know that was a skill that people had. 691 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: But there's just so many ways for people to plug in. 692 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: And I think the parody is a great example of Like, 693 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: you don't think that's something that's going to help. But 694 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: if we hadn't written those parodies and hadn't gotten those 695 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: people to come to commence, would we have the energy 696 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: right now that we're having when we have the connections 697 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: that we're having in the name recognition. No, So in 698 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: many ways, you know, those just writing those songs at 699 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night, um in the middle of 700 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: the summer really did catalyze a lot of the civic movement. 701 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: So I think there are a lot of ways to 702 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: be a leader in your own right without necessarily leading 703 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: like a team of people. I have long believed that 704 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: Drake parodies were key to restoring and renewing our democracy, 705 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: and now I have the evidence to use that. Thank 706 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: you that. Our next question comes from Ned and Amber. 707 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: It's it's about the organizational structure. How big is the organization, 708 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: the number of staff, where those involved day to day. 709 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: But it's related to this idea that most people have 710 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: a sense that an organization needs a hierarchy to ensure order. So, 711 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: in addition to sort of your ORC chart and head 712 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: count numbers, how does your culture defy the narrative of 713 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: hierarchy to ensure that things get done? It frustrates me 714 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: at times. But the steering committee that Zoe talks about, 715 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: we leaned into that structure where they are the ones 716 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: because we built it with them and and co piloted 717 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: it and then agreed that these five community members were 718 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: the ones that make the decisions on what projects we 719 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: invest in. And I couldn't love that more because I 720 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: know myself and I knew I would start to mingle 721 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: in it. And the second I think it was the 722 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: first project that you all invested in, I jumped in. 723 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've got all these questions about 724 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: it and I'm not sure. It was like, well, that's 725 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: why we set up the structure. And so it is 726 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: actually leaning into structures to ensure that there is leadership 727 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: and accountability within these different mechanisms. So we started with 728 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: two twenty fellows. We got hundreds of applications from all 729 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: fifty states, Squam Puerto Rico our community. So you gotta 730 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: recognize we had zero marketing budget. We did zero ads. 731 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: We built a website with these kids and said take 732 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: it out and started with two because we were going 733 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: to culminate in Washington, d C. And Georgetown only gave us. 734 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you, Georgetown, but you only gave 735 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: us two bets. So that that was that forcing function. Now, 736 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: when COVID down and we as a community decided, we 737 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: decided in I think early April, Zoe, we weren't going 738 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: to d C. We called the shot. When we weren't 739 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: going to d C, we started launching things like Unpluged Conversations, 740 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: fireside chat. So that's when we started to bring in 741 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: hundreds of more other participants. And we just launched year 742 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: two application and in less than forty eight hours we 743 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: got more than two hundred applications in two days. We're 744 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: probably going to cap around five hundred. But the size 745 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: of everyone working on it all the time, I say, 746 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: is it about eleven deep. But we interact as a 747 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: community every single day. So we start our mornings off 748 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: with a morning reflection. Where I come from, it's called convocation. 749 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: But it's a morning reflection where we all lean in, 750 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: set for the day, expectations, reflect on something, challenge each other. 751 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: But that's a bit of how we're structured in the size. 752 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. We're going to go to a 753 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: live question. We're going to Gunner Carlson. I'm gonna Carlson. 754 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Thank you for this talk first 755 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: of all, and thank you for your leadership and service. Zoe. 756 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: My question is for you, and specifically I work with 757 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: a lot of youth, and so something I like to 758 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: ask and get an honest answer on is one way 759 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: that you think that adults like us can be supportive 760 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: and get behind you and lean in and help your momentum? 761 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: And what is one area where we need to just 762 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: get out of the way because we're a problem and 763 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: it would be easier to just let you do your thing. 764 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is just to believe, just 765 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: believe in young people. You know, if a young person 766 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: has the drive to come and talk to you about 767 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: a problem they're seeing, if they have a new policy 768 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: they want to recommend, then you just got to lean in. 769 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: I can tell you from personal experience with my education 770 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: advocacy group. We were lobbying in Frankfurt to increase pay 771 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: but also just increase the number of school counselors because 772 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: our school to counsel ratio is like almost close to 773 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: five one, which is just ridiculous. Students aren't getting school 774 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: counseling resources. And that the response from a senator in 775 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: the Kentucky legislature was, we all should start a bake 776 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: sale and raise money to pay for your school counselors. Yeah, 777 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: which is like, I know, people are laughing, they're shaking 778 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: it has that's ridiculous. You know you can't pay for 779 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: school counsels of the bake sale. Um. So I think 780 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: that just overcoming that culture of writing kids off. If 781 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: the kids are gonna come and lobby to you and 782 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: Frankfort about how they think they need more school counselors 783 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: than you know, they're lobbying just like anyone else, would 784 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: they really care about an issue in terms of I guess, 785 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: I guess tips as well as I think a lot 786 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: of kids sometimes say they we want to be treated 787 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: like adults, but there's a nuance to that. We don't 788 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: want to be treated like we're thirty because we're not thirty, 789 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: but just given the same kind of like value in 790 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: our opinions and what we know. But also recognize though 791 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: that if we're eighteen, like what Josh was saying, we 792 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: obviously don't have the same kind of wisdom as somebody 793 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: who's lived much longer. But that doesn't mean that our 794 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: ideas are any less merited. It just means that we 795 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: may need a little bit more support from intergenerational partners 796 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: to operationalize those ideas. I hope I answered your question. 797 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: I thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you, I appreciate 798 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 1: that question. And I'm still mad about the way those 799 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: Kentucky elected officials responded to you. So I want to 800 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: know how we can help out. Telling kids to do 801 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: a big sale instead of you doing your job is 802 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: the height of offensive and on small d democratic, So 803 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: we gotta work on that, especially in a pandemic. So, 804 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: because there's been so much concern, especially by folks like 805 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: your parents and the age group of your parents, about 806 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: the consequences of living in a digital landscape, how do 807 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: you manage the full time screen time life. What does 808 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: that digital hygiene look like for you? It's been an adjustment, 809 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: so I think for a long time. My resolve was like, well, 810 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: I don't spend too much time on screens because I'm 811 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: at school and I'm not on screens and I'm at school, 812 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: so it's okay for me to do all these calls 813 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: and I get home because I've had all this in 814 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: person interaction. And then when that went away, I think 815 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: a lot of the kids, I know, it was kind 816 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: of a wake up call like, whoa, we need to 817 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: do some things personally to make sure that you know, 818 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: we're filling our own cup before we're filling everyone else's. 819 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: So you know, we've started kind of like taking Saturday's 820 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: off of Slack, and that's something we started recently. It 821 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: was like, we need to have something where people know 822 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't have to be on Slack today because nothing's 823 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: going to happen important today. And I think a lot 824 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: of digital hijin think is just making sure that you're 825 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: being social, because if you're just working all day and 826 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: just on zoom calls, which just work, I think that's 827 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: really draining. But a lot of what we do with 828 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: civicsum plugs is a lot of fun. You know. If 829 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: we're not getting right into the need of things, we're 830 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: just chatting, just chatting about how life is going. I 831 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: always like to reference Lillian another person a staring committee. 832 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: She started a meme channel in Civics and plug where 833 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: we just send memes and just talk about meme culture. 834 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: It's just something casual so that you, you you know, can 835 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: be on the screen because that's when one of the 836 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: ways we can really interact with others, especially and see 837 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: you but still you know, have a good time while 838 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: also you know, working to save democracy on the other 839 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: side and thinks as well. Uh, this conversation with both 840 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: of you has been what I needed. I think it's 841 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: been what a listener needs. Right now. We are in 842 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: this moment of extraordinary frontness and precariousness and balancing and 843 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: feeling overwhelmed, and we don't get very many signals of 844 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: anything worth fighting for looking forward to from our major 845 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: news outlets. And you have filled my cup with your energy, 846 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: with your reproach, with your Drake Paris, and your belief 847 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: in memes to restore and renewed democracy. Thank you for 848 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: showing up. Thank you for building relationships, thank you for 849 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: understanding your power. Thank you for working on behalf of 850 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: the many and not just the few. That's how the 851 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: citizen and we are learning from you in the process. 852 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: Zoe and Josh Civics Unplugged family, You're welcome here any 853 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: and every time. Thank you for sharing the space with it. 854 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: And so we're still gonna work at a bake salvers 855 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: and need to climb back of a very specific nature. 856 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I am feeling motivated, inspired, 857 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: and uplifted by that energetic conversation with representatives from the 858 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: next generation. We are so grateful to Josh Thompson and 859 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: Zoe Jenkins for joining us. You can find them online 860 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: Joshua T. Thompson on Twitter or Civics Unplugged on Instagram 861 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: or Twitter, and you could also, of course go to 862 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: their website at civics unplugged dot org. This whole episode 863 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: a transcript and the actions I'm about to tell you 864 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: are always findable at how to citizen dot com. So 865 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: listen to what I'm about to say, but also just 866 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: go to the website. Here are some actions you can 867 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: take in the spirit of youth and action and letting 868 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: the kids lead. Internally, we have, as usual a writing exercise. 869 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: This one is inspired by the civic program at CIVICS Unplugged, 870 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: and it's to help you start your journey as a 871 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: Civic twenty builder. Even though you're not formally in the program, 872 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: you can run alongside. So you want to fill in 873 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: the following statements. To me, a flourishing democracy is one 874 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: that A flourishing community is one that blank right by 875 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: I pledged to have contributed to the flourishing of the 876 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: following communities and then list them. Finally, by I pledged 877 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: to have played any, many, or all of the following 878 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: roles in service of creating a brighter future for my 879 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: communities and American Democrat. See and if you're not American, 880 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. I might be low key jealous of you. 881 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: So pick your society, your community as it fits. After 882 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: you've done developing your own vision, check out a bit 883 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: of the vision of Civics Unplugged. We are linking to 884 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: two pieces. Why we must save American Democracy is one 885 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: of them, and what American democracy could look like. In 886 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: for external actions, We've got four things lined up for 887 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: you in this episode. Number one, identify young people in 888 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: your life that you could support, Ask them what they 889 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: are working on, and ask how you can help. Then 890 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 1: help them. Number two the Civics Unplugged Fellowship is open 891 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: and accepting submissions. The deadline is November. Nominate someone, Encourage someone, 892 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: Spread the word to get high schoolers involved in this process. 893 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: Number three, Get involved as a mentor yourself in supporting 894 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: builders at a Civic's twenty campaign. We have a link 895 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: to that Civics Unplugged dot org, slash plug dash in 896 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: and a bonus. This is my favorite assignment by far. 897 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: Don't tell the other producers my favorite assignment. I want 898 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: you to find or create your own Drake memes and parodies. Yes, 899 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: do it for democracy, y'all. This is how we do it. 900 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: If you take any of these actions, share them with 901 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: us via email action at how to citizen dot com. 902 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: Make sure to mention kids will lead in the subject 903 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: line and brag about it loud and publicly on social media. 904 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: Use the hashtag how to citizen. 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