1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: kicks off, and my oh my, we are racked and stacked. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: We have a ton of news stories, breaking news, overnight news, 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 3: big news, all kinds of stuff here to get to. 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: First off, we have Gavin Newsom Glad I both enjoyed 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 3: this one, governor of California declining to back the proposed 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: reparations checks. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, just he's super he's super. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: Committed to social justice and righting the wrongs in the past. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: But giving every resident of California who is black a 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: check for a million or two million, or whatever the 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: latest number is, that might be a little bit of 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: a problem for the budget, but he's super committed. We'll 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: discuss this in more detail. Also, a San Francisco supervisor 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: announcing legislation to limit the use of firearms by security 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: guards after an incident there where someone attacked a security 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: guard in the course of shoplifting and the security guard 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: shot the individual. So we will get into that story. Also, 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: Tucker went to Twitter and is had a big announcement. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: Want to share that with you, and also just what 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: this means for the overall media landscape. I didn't want 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: to say the conservative media landscape, really the free speech 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: landscape for the media, which is really critical, especially going 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: in this election year. I do think it's an X 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: factor we should take into account going into twenty twenty 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: four that there may be one at least one major 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: platform where you won't be censored because the psychotic libs 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: demand it. So we will discuss that Trump lost a 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: civil case in New York which we had told you 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: he's going to get a jury. They didn't go all 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: the way though, with all the charges. Will break that 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 3: down for you and to that. And we've got Andy 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: McCarthy joining us later on this hour from formerly Southern 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: District of New York prosecutor, and Mariana Devine we have 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: joining us later on, and she'll also give us all 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: the latest. As you know, she wrote Laptop from Hell, 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: and she's following the whole Biden family corruption story very 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: very closely, so we can ask her where this is going. 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: She can weigh in on whether you know whether Clay 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: or I see this one more preciently with the possibility 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: of criminal charges, right you think we don't want to 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: get into this now because I want to get into 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: what Comer is talking about in the House. But you 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 3: think he goes that. You think they charge him to 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: the point where Biden may have to pardon him. Right, 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: this is the only so we agree like ninety percent 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: on this one. I just think they're going to make it, 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, leanient enough that he doesn't have to go 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: to prison. Okay, Well ask Miranda, she'll give us. She'll 53 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: weigh in on this in a second. But Clay, let 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: us start today with additional details of how corrupt the 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: Biden family is. This is the headline up on Fox 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: Biden family received millions from foreign nationals and tried to 57 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: conceal the source of the funds. This is from House 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer of Kentucky. He's 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: the one who is running this running this committee right now, 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: And let me just put this out there. This is 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 3: a quote from from the memo put out by the committee. 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:39,279 Speaker 3: In some instances, Biden association associates rather would receive significant 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: deposits from foreign sources into their bank accounts and then 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: transfer smaller incremental payments to Biden bank accounts. These complicated 65 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: and seemingly unnecessary financial transactions appear to be a concerted 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: effort to conceal the source and amount received from foreign companies. Clay, 67 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: why are so many LLC's unless you're trying to hide 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: the money. 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent of what was going on. 70 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's coincidental, Buck, that you have 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: on the same day that these millions of dollars in 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: improper payments to the Biden crime family are laid out 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: by the House Oversight Committee. Are impartial and fair, and 74 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: I'm putting that in quotation. Marks, Department of Justice decides 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: to bring the hammer down on George Santos over relatively 76 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: minor in the grand scheme of things campaign finance violations. 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about thousands of dollars in misallocated 78 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: funds for George Santos versus millions for the Biden crime family. 79 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 4: I'll also point this out, Buck, Isn't it amazing with 80 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: what speed and alacrity the Department of Justice can move 81 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: with when they really want to bring charges against someone. 82 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: They've had the Hunter Biden laptop since December of twenty 83 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 4: nineteen and done so far as we can tell nothing 84 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: with it. Remember, we didn't even know about the Hunter 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: Biden laptop until October of twenty twenty, which we'll talk 86 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: about with Miranda Divine. But at that point, the FBI 87 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: had had the laptop for nearly a year and easily 88 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: knew all of the different crimes that Hunter Biden was 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: involved in. So how is it that they can George 90 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 4: Santos in his lies and misrepresentations only really became a 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: story in December, right, and now already he's got thirteen 92 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: different felony counts thrown at him. They brought the full 93 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: way of the Department of Justice against him. And again, 94 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: I think the people in Long Island should have the 95 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: ability in twenty twenty four to decide whether they want 96 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: George Santos representing them when they decide who the primary 97 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: representative is going to be in the Republican Party. I 98 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: think that's eminently reasonable in seven eight months, whenever that 99 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: campaign season officially gets underway. But this is small potatoes 100 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: compared to the incidents that Biden and his family are 101 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: alleged to be involved in. Pretty much dead to rights 102 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: based on the information that came out today from the 103 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: Republican House members. 104 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: You know, there are some yes or no crimes out there. 105 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: I remember talking to a friend of mine who was 106 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: a federal prosecutor in Georgia about this because I said, 107 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: you know, there seems like there's so many of these 108 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: prosecutions for you know, possession of drugs, possession of illegal firearm, 109 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: depending something like that. I said, but there's always other 110 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: stuff that the person was doing. He goes, yeah, but 111 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: you have to understand possession crime, for example, or financial 112 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: crime also falls into this category. Depending on what you're 113 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: talking about. Is either it happened or it didn't happen, right, 114 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: it's a you know, red light, green light, and you 115 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: see that. That's why often with with drugs, the the 116 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: amount of illegal drugs, for example, somebody has, that's what 117 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: the prosecutors will go for. And it's harder to do 118 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: this sort of conspiracy and and even you know, an 119 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: intent to commit you know, or racketeering other things like that, 120 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: they can go for that, but usually they just go 121 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: for the highest readily provable count. Okay, in a case 122 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: like Hunter Biden's, as we've said, Clay, the money was 123 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 3: transferred or it wasn't, he declared it, or he didn't 124 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: he paid taxes or not right, or or he did 125 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: not pay taxes. 126 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: That's it. There's not really much wiggle room on these things. 127 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: You remember from the show Billions. 128 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: Remember in Billions when Ax, who's the billionaire hedge fun guy, 129 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: one of his guys gets into trouble for firing an 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: automatic weapon in his backyard at a deer. And even 131 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: Ax's political hatchet man is like, this is not a 132 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: you know, did you get inside or trading thing. This 133 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: is a you have an illegal gun and you fired 134 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: it a deer in Greenwich, Connecticut. Right, So he's like, 135 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: I can't make this thing go away for you. The fact, 136 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just trying to get to your point here, 137 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: which is the fact that they've already moved against George 138 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: Santos on a whole range of wait what exactly, And 139 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: there's receipts but there shouldn't have or there aren't receipts 140 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: but there should have been. And then you look at 141 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: the Hunter Bidens, the hundreds still selling finger paintings at 142 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars a pop. There's clearly a double. 143 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: Standard at play, not only a double standard, but also 144 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: the dollars at stake matter, and what if you presume 145 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: that everything they've alleged against Santos is true. It was 146 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: a low level hundreds of thousands peak right of dollars 147 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: that were being misallocated. And I'm not saying that doesn't matter. 148 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: It does, But the fraud that was perpetrated by George 149 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: Santos had almost no impact outside of George Santos. Maybe 150 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: he gets suits that he doesn't have to pay for, 151 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 4: Maybe he's getting a little bit more money in his 152 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: pocket than he would otherwise have gotten. Again, relatively low level, 153 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: minor frauds, that's what's going on here. A couple of 154 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: these counts are like five hundred and twenty dollars in 155 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: misallocated funds. 156 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean, that's two of the counts. 157 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 4: Is my when I'm reading through and looking at this buck, 158 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: I don't even know if you've dove into this yet. Again, 159 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: a lot of relatively minor in nature and degree. 160 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: As a result, Santos, this is from the indictment that 161 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: the Justice Department put out fraudulently received more than twenty 162 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: four thousand dollars in unemployment insurance benefits. So that's like, 163 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: you know, if we put him in prison, for two months, 164 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: the taxpayer has lost money. 165 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: Just to be clear, Okay, I mean it's right, it's 166 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: and again I'm not saying that even if you accept 167 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: all of these things as true. Buck, this is what 168 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: I'm getting at comparing this to the multimillion dollar issues 169 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 4: at stake, where you're taking money from foreign adversaries potentially 170 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: adjusting American policy as a result. Santos was maybe cheating 171 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: basically on the taxes. 172 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: And the way that this thing was being applied. Well, 173 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: let's put this. 174 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: These are both federal cases. One hasn't one is indicted, 175 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: and one is still in the investigation phase. But they're 176 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: federal cases. The Biden crime family and George Santos. And 177 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: you sit here and you say, to your point, there's 178 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: some that they talk about, you know, false state wait, 179 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: false statements to the House of Representatives, which by the way, 180 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: they never like. That's the thing that's basically never charged. Okay, 181 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: No one lying to the House of Representatives is not 182 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: something that where's Fauci. 183 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: When we need him? 184 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: The unemploying unemployment insurance for us keep anyway, they're listing 185 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars year, maybe five thousand dollars there twenty 186 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: grand is the big count uh, and you look at 187 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden is taking millions of dollars and 188 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: on stuff that matters. This is from the Comer Committee quote. 189 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, through his associate Rob Walker, received more than 190 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: a million dollars from a foreign company reportedly controlled by Gabriel. 191 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Some kind of Romanian name. 192 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: I can't even try that one the subject of a 193 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: criminal probe and prosecution for corruption in Romania. Then Vice 194 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: President Biden met with remaining leaders in twenty fourteen and 195 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen regarding corruption in the country. I want everyone 196 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: to understand this, Hunter Biden was taking money in a 197 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: corrupt scheme to subvert his dad's role in anti corruption. 198 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: In these countries. Yes, can't make this stuff up. 199 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: And again, Ukraine and China involved probably the two most 200 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: significant in terms of foreign entanglements that have existed during 201 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: Biden's era. And I would come back again buck to 202 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: the timing on this. All of these details are coming 203 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: out on Biden. They knew it because this was a 204 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: scheduled event, and they decide to throw the book at 205 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: George Sandstos basically on the exact same day. I mean, 206 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: it is just clear to me political theater, and again 207 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: we'll get what someone's capable of. What is George Santos 208 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: as a freshman, freshman member of the House of Representatives, 209 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: newly elected, what is he able to do virtually nothing 210 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: right in the grand scheme of things Versus what Joe 211 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: Biden is able to accomplish. This is seismically different. And 212 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: I think that is why this is so important, and 213 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: why the timing on this is anything other, in my opinion, 214 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: than a coincidence. And all of this seems really, really 215 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: significant in a monstrous way. Son of the Towers Foundation, 216 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: let Us Do Good Village in Landa Lakes, Florida is 217 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: a community that will have about one hundred homes for 218 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: the Foundation's program participants. 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She totally lied about it 243 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: by Democrat operatives, like just about the biggest one there is, 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: and she said that wasn't true. 245 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: They found that she lied about it. 246 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 5: And the judge wasn't even I guess letting it be 247 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: put in as evidence. 248 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: The whole thing is a scam. 249 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: The whole thing's a scam. Trump says. This is after 250 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: he had a partial loss here in the verdict on 251 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: the e. Gene Carroll sexual assault and defamation trial in 252 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: New York City. We got Anny McCarthy with us now 253 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: of National Review, former federal prosecutor for the Southern District 254 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: for over twenty years. Andy, Can you just give us, 255 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: first of all, always so happy that you can make 256 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: the time for thank you. Can you just give us 257 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: the what is yours like? Talk to us about this trial, 258 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: the result, what this means. You just just break it 259 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: down for us. 260 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 6: Well, I just say as a trial, you know, as 261 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 6: a civil case, it's very hard in the context of 262 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: a civil case that goes to trial to beat something 263 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 6: with nothing. And what I mean by that is it's 264 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 6: an unlike the criminal system, where a defendant or an 265 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: accused has a right not to testify and the burden 266 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 6: is entirely on the government. In the civil system, the 267 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 6: burden is much lower. It's not proof beyond the reasonable debt. 268 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 6: It basically is it's preponderance. It means like more probable 269 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 6: than not. But the other thing is there's an expectation 270 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 6: that everybody who's involved in the litigation as a principle, 271 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 6: is going to testify, and if they don't appear and 272 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: don't testify, then the courts tell the yourrs customarily that 273 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: they can draw negative inference from the failure to testify, 274 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 6: for you know that that if the person had an 275 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 6: explanation for what he's been accused of, he would have 276 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 6: taken the stand. And if he didn't take the stand, 277 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 6: that means he either didn't have an explanation or he 278 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 6: didn't want to be cross examined about whatever explanation he had. 279 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: That's a pretty powerful instruction. So you really rolling the 280 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 6: dice in a in a civil case if you are 281 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 6: going to be a litigant, and then you're going to 282 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 6: try to do it by not participating because it's a 283 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 6: low burden of proof and the jury's going to be 284 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 6: told that if you had an explanation, you'd have got 285 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 6: on the you know, in the witness stand and given it. 286 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: Andy. 287 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: With that in mind, I was actually surprised they didn't 288 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: hit Trump harder here. They declined to find that he 289 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: had committed rape now they said sexual assault, but they 290 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: only hit him with a five million dollar verdict. 291 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: And I'm sure he's going to appeal that. 292 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: But given the potential range here, like I kind of 293 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 4: thought they might, but you don't know what the jury's 294 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 4: gonna do. 295 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm curious what you thought. 296 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 4: I kind of thought we might get a message sending verdict, 297 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: even if it's one that gets tossed out where they say, oh, 298 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: Trump raped or and e ohs two hundred million dollars 299 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: right or something. 300 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: I talked about that on the show. 301 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: Given the potential outcome here, this doesn't even seem like 302 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: that bad of a verdict for Trump. 303 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 6: No, And look, I Clay, I tried cases in that 304 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 6: courthouse for you know, twenty years, so I was not 305 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: as down as a lot of commentators were on the jury. 306 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of people who and I 307 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 6: understand this because I kind of have a knee jerk 308 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 6: feeling about this myself. But you know, because it's Manhattan, 309 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 6: they're going to be biased against Trump. It's really not Manhattan. 310 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 6: It's the southern district of New York. So the jury's 311 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 6: drawn from you know, Manhattan, the Bronx, Westchester County. There's 312 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 6: a lot of people in New York and particularly outside Manhattan, 313 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 6: who voted for Trump in the election. So you know, 314 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 6: I was I didn't think it was a lock that 315 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 6: he was going to get a jury that had it 316 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 6: in for him. And I think what this jury did, 317 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 6: Number one, as you say, the damages here are not exorbitant, 318 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 6: they're you know, they're pretty reasonable given the kind of 319 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 6: damage awards we typically see in civil litigation anymore. And 320 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 6: the other thing is, I think they only went as 321 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 6: far in terms of what they found as they were 322 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 6: comfortable that Carol had corroboration. And what I mean by 323 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 6: that is, you know, this thing, according to her, happened 324 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 6: twenty seven years ago. There wasn't any scientific evidence or 325 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 6: contemporaneous investigation that forensically could support her account. But the judge, 326 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 6: applying the rules of evidence that have been loosened up 327 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: over the last a couple of decades to make it 328 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 6: easier to prove sexual assault cases, he let these two 329 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: victim witnesses testify, and he let that his two others 330 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 6: besides Carol, who claimed that you know, Trump had sexually 331 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 6: assaulted them, I think one in seventy nine, one in 332 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: two thousand and five, and he allowed them to hear 333 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 6: the Access Hollywood tape. Those two women, and like the 334 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 6: Access Hollywood tape, they talk about, you know, things like 335 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 6: inappropriate touching and groping, but there was no allegation that 336 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 6: Trump raped those women. And in as bad as Trump's 337 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 6: access Hollywood tape is, he doesn't say that he raped 338 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: women on it. So I think what the jury did 339 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: was they they believed that there was some kind of 340 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: encounter between Trump and Carol, but they were not willing 341 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 6: on her word alone, with no forensic evidence to say 342 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: that it was rape. They only went as far as 343 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 6: the other victim witnesses. 344 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: Was speaking of Anny McCarthy. You know, Andy, there's there's 345 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: a lot of legal stuff going on, so you know, 346 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: please keep our number handy because we're gonna need to 347 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: be talking about a lot of things over the next 348 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: few eighteen months or so. But to that end, you know, 349 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: the House Oversight Committee right now that's looking at the 350 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: Biden finances and what seems to be very clearly a 351 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: Biden crime family of influence pedling. But even as I 352 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: use that term, I think to myself, well, tax evasion problem, right, 353 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 3: money laundering problem, these are legal things we all understand. 354 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: Only influence pedling though, I mean, if you were a 355 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: federal prosecutor again, looking at the facts, as they've been 356 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: laid out here. The layering of LLC's money going to 357 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: the grand children. Joe is in office. People are taking 358 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: money obviously for access. Is what statue would that fall under? 359 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: Is it politically gross but as not necessarily criminal influence pedling? 360 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 6: It could be buck But can I tell you what 361 00:20:52,840 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 6: Muller did with Manifort. What his theory was that because 362 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 6: Maniford failed to register as a foreign agent under FARA, 363 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 6: the Foreign Agent Registration Act, where everybody's supposed to who 364 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 6: works for a foreign entity or a foreign person, you're 365 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 6: supposed to register with the Justice Department. Because Maniford didn't 366 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 6: do that, Muller's theory was that all the income that 367 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 6: he made in that connection was therefore illegal proceeds. And 368 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: what that means is, you know, for a money laundering case, 369 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 6: if it's your money and it's legitimate money, you're allowed 370 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 6: to you know, you can put it through however many 371 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 6: bank accounts and buy however many assets you want. But 372 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 6: if a prosecutor can prove that it's ill gotten gained 373 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 6: in the first place, then every time you move it 374 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 6: through another account or buy another asset, that's money wandering. 375 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: And that's a big deal because money laundering has you know, 376 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 6: heavy duty sentencing provisions because it's so often associated with 377 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 6: the organized crime and drug trafficking and the like. So 378 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: that's what that's what Muller did to get Maniford over Barrel. 379 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 6: He basically said he didn't register as a foreign agent. 380 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 6: All this money came in, they flouiced it through this 381 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 6: account in that account. Therefore it's all money laundering. So 382 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 6: you know, if I were a prosecutor now that that 383 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 6: seems to be the Justice Department's theory, that's the way I'd. 384 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: Be looking at it. 385 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: Andy does it, And that's really fascinating analysis. Does it 386 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 4: surprise you or seem untoward that on the day that 387 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: there is a scheduled press conference to lay out nine 388 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: members of the Biden family receiving payments from foreign nationals, 389 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 4: that charges are brought against George Santos, and also building 390 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: on that, what do you think of the Santos charges 391 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: and what does it say about the rapidity with which 392 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: the Department of Justice was able to bring charges against Santos. Meanwhile, 393 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: they still had the Hunter Biden laptop for almost four 394 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: years now and haven't done anything at all. Does that 395 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: strike you as a pretty clear evidence of or at 396 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 4: least you know, you know, it's not just the appearance, 397 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: it's not just impropriety. It's the appearance of impropriety that 398 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: is so destructive and toxic. How would you analyze these stories. 399 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 6: Good Clay, I would say that time in terms of timing. 400 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 6: The Justice Department is always in control of the timing 401 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: of when somebody is taken into custody, particularly if it's 402 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: a non violent crime and you're dealing with a public person. 403 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 6: So they obviously picked this day for a reason. And 404 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 6: it doesn't at all surprise me, how given how politicized 405 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 6: the Justice Department in this administration has been, that they 406 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 6: pick a day where they have another story out there 407 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 6: that they want to bury. And I would just just 408 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 6: add that, you know, I haven't had a chance to 409 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 6: go through the Santos charges yet because I spent my 410 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 6: morning reading a second report that the House generated today, 411 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: two very interesting reports, not just the Biden money won, 412 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 6: but also how the letter by the fifty one former 413 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: intelligence officials came to be generated. The Jim Jordan Uh 414 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 6: and Mike Turner's committees generated a seventy page report this 415 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 6: morning that's a fascinating report about how that all came 416 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 6: to pass and how uh and this will be this 417 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 6: will be close to Buck's heart. But you know how 418 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 6: these guys took their national security credentials and basically hoared 419 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 6: them for parties and purposes to give Biden a response 420 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 6: to make to Trump at the at the debate when 421 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 6: he raised you know, Biden's corruption. 422 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: So that's that's one percent what they did. And Andy, 423 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: you know, the Federalist has The Federalist has a story. 424 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: I think it just went up last night that this 425 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: actually came from within the agency too, not just former agency. 426 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's an interesting aspect of it. What it 427 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 6: looks like happened is at the same you know, they 428 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 6: had to put their letter. Morrell, who was the former 429 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 6: CIA director, who was the main writer or this, he 430 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 6: got it pushed through the part of the CIA that 431 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 6: reviews the people's writings before they go public to make 432 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 6: sure there's no classified information. 433 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: In the publication or view board. 434 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 6: Yeah exactly. Yeah, So somebody else from the CIA at 435 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 6: the same time was having his book reviewed and the 436 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 6: CIA asked them in that process, hey did you hear 437 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 6: about this other letter? Wouldn't you like to sign on. 438 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 6: So he and his wife, who were both former CIA agents, 439 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 6: signed onto the letter. And we don't know how many 440 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 6: other people were persuaded by the CIA itself, not just 441 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 6: like these former officials, but actually the CIA to get 442 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 6: involved in this thing, which is sheer politics. It's not 443 00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 6: anything else. 444 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: Where is all this going to? 445 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: I mean, have you ever seen so many different legal 446 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: machinations and craziness going on in our country and your experience? 447 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 6: No. I mean, you know, I thought the Trump days 448 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: with the Molleor investigation, you know, there was a lot 449 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 6: going on then too, and that seemed to be bumping 450 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 6: in all the time to a lot of congressional stuff. 451 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 6: But it does seem to me, Clay, when I get 452 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 6: to the end of the week, that there's no weekend. 453 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 6: I just feel like every single day something's exploding. 454 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: Joined the club. 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That's my Patriot supply 482 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 4: dot com. 483 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven and never miss 484 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: a minute of Clay and Buck while getting behind the 485 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: scene access to special content for members on la. 486 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: Third hour of Plan Buck kicks off right now. Appreciate 487 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: you being with us. 488 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: As we started off the show discussing there's a lot 489 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: out there about Hunter Biden's business dealings right now thanks 490 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: to this oversight committee that is looking into it. Representative 491 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: Comer is leading the charge on this, he's a committee chairman. 492 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: And there's a an intricate web of dealings here that 493 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: involve layering of LLCs. So it's you know, LLC XYZ 494 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: gives to LLC, you know qrs uh, you know a 495 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: million dollars and you keep doing this so that it's 496 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: hard to understand and harder to track the source of funds, 497 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: who's getting the funds, And it does start to look 498 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: like this could be money money laundering. Do we have 499 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: Miranda now? Miranda Devine of The New York Post joins 500 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: us to talk about this. Miranda, thanks for making. 501 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 7: The time, Oh pleasure great to be with you. 502 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: So is there new stuff here from this house oversight 503 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: and accountability, hearing and what matters, what matters most in 504 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 3: this saga of the Hunter Biden family dealings and all 505 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: the rest of it. 506 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 7: Well, I guess it's all new because they've subpoenaed these 507 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 7: bank records. And so while previously we've had, you know, 508 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 7: documents from the laptop, and we've had invoices and bank statements, 509 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 7: et cetera, this is something that's just incontrovertible. People, you know, 510 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 7: the Democrats and the New York Times and so on, 511 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 7: can't just flip it and say, oh, it's just from 512 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 7: the laptop, even though the material and the laptop, as 513 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 7: you know, is real. This just silences any complaints in 514 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 7: that department. And it's a really forensic accounting of payments 515 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: just from two countries. This is a you know, like 516 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 7: an interim accounting, and it's just from Romania and China. 517 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 7: There is some new material from Romania three million dollars 518 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 7: actually that came through to one of Hunter Biden's business 519 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 7: associates from Romania and was doled out to Hunter and 520 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 7: various of the other family members in the usual way 521 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 7: they've done them, presumably to hide the payments in smaller 522 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 7: tranches over time. 523 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: Miranda. 524 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: I imagine that even you, because this is where I 525 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: find myself, have to be impressed by just how diabolical 526 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: the Biden team and the Democrats in general have been 527 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: as it pertains to everything surrounding Hunter and the Biden 528 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: crime family. Which is why today, this morning, I almost 529 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: just wanted to slap myself in the face for not 530 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: saying it yesterday on the radio show, the idea of 531 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: arresting George Santos basically at the exact time that this 532 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: press conference is going on, and they're arresting Santos for 533 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: you know, basically you're in New York. Now, you know 534 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: thousands of dollars in misapplied funds associated with his campaign 535 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: finance filings. Meanwhile, Biden, as you just laid out three 536 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: million new dollars being pointed to from Romania. 537 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: We know about Ukraine, we know about Russia. 538 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: It's just so diabolically brilliant on some level to decide 539 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: that your own Department of Justice is going to arrest 540 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 4: a Republican while far more serious allegations are proven against 541 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 4: Joe Biden. 542 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean, did you not just sit back and say, oh, 543 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: of course they pulled this move. 544 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 7: It's so corrupt, it really is. And you know, you 545 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 7: can't imagine that this is just a coincidence. They've given 546 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 7: the other media, which has studiously ignored this story. They 547 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 7: did not MSNBC, did not run the press conference. New 548 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 7: York Times, Washington Post last time I looked, had ignored it. 549 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 7: You know, it's given them something to take hold of 550 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: and distract them instead of the press conference that COMA held, 551 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 7: So instead the New York Times and Washington Posts they've 552 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 7: been tweeting madly about George Santov, some of these. I mean, 553 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 7: I'm not defending George Santov, but it's really small beer. 554 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 7: I think it's like five hundred dollars here and five 555 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 7: hundred dollars there. 556 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 6: You know, Well, while the. 557 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 7: DOJ is completely ignoring twenty million dollars just today that 558 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 7: that COMA and co have identified that have come through 559 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 7: in these dodgy from these dodgy countries, from the shady 560 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 7: oligarchs and from the CCP in China into bank accounts. 561 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 7: Eventually of nine that they've said now at least nine 562 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: Biden family members, and that includes grandchildren, nieces, nephews. I 563 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 7: think nieces actually not nephews. 564 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: We're speaking of Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from how 565 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: Miranda the likelihood in your mind here? I mean, actually 566 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: I have two things. One is, do we know do 567 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: you know the amounts of untaxed income that we're talking 568 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 3: about here? 569 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 6: Right? 570 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: We know it's a lot of money coming to these LLCs. 571 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: But I mean, if he's taking in a ten to 572 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars not declaring it until it's found by 573 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: the government, anyone else goes to prison for that? I mean, 574 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: does real prison time for that? I'm wondering if we 575 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: know what the amounts are that did not get declared 576 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: for taxes based on the investigation so far. And then 577 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: the second part of this is just more broadly, do 578 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: you think that Hunter is going to face criminal charges 579 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: that could send him to prison or are they going 580 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 3: to make this thing go away? 581 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 7: So on the first question, the COMA people have not 582 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 7: quantified that. But what we do know is that in Delaware, 583 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 7: the US Attorney David Wife has identified two point eight 584 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 7: million dollars in unpaid taxes, which Hunter Biden now has 585 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: paid back with the help of his sugar brother, the 586 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 7: Hollywood entertainment lawyer Kevin Morris, who very kindly lent him 587 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 7: the money, and so we know that there. And the 588 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 7: other thing perhaps is that there's a statute of limitations 589 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 7: problem for the DOJ for David wife and so on 590 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 7: tax issues. I think it's five years, maybe six years. 591 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 7: And unless they add an extra felony I'm told, which 592 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 7: would be a conspiracy to defraud the irs to evade taxes, 593 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 7: then that pretty much means that you're not going to 594 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 7: go before twenty eighteen, which is where a lot of 595 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: that money came from. You know, the Barisma money from Ukraine, 596 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 7: the first couple of China deals. You're just left with 597 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 7: the CFC energy deal, and so I don't know how 598 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 7: they're going to handle that. And I think that there's 599 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 7: been frustration in Delaware because Hunter Biden and Kevin Morris 600 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 7: and perhaps the other lawyers being resistant to entering into 601 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 7: any plea deal. Hunter's position is that he's done nothing 602 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 7: wrong and this is just a political witch hunt, so 603 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 7: he's not going to plead guilty to any felonies. And 604 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 7: so I don't know whether that's been resolved. I know 605 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 7: that Kevin Morris and the lawyers the Hunter are looking 606 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 7: at some on the gun charge. They seem to be 607 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 7: a little concerned about that, and they're pointing to some 608 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 7: imminent decision that's coming down that may show that these 609 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 7: gun forms are unconstitutional. I don't know that sounds like 610 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 7: they're grasping at straws there. But on the tax issues, 611 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 7: they seem to be pretty sanguine. And from the leaks, 612 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 7: you know, it's a pretty tight ship down there in Delaware. 613 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 7: But from the leaks that we've seen in the Washington 614 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 7: Post and New York Times only, which suggests they're coming 615 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 7: from the Biden camp, they've only talked about basically tax 616 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 7: evasion charges. They've not talked about money laundering or Pharaoh violations, 617 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 7: you know, on Pharaoh violations, which some people scoff at, 618 00:36:54,239 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 7: and sure they weren't really applied until people decided to 619 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 7: apply it to the trut of Trump world and locked 620 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 7: up Paul Manafort and spied on Ruy Giuliani on bogus 621 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 7: farahcharges for a year. So Fara charges should be on 622 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 7: the table, but they're not being talked about. So I 623 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 7: just would not want to be David Weiss. The pressure 624 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 7: on him is immense. You've got Joe Biden making these 625 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 7: public pronouncements my son has done nothing wrong, which if 626 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 7: that's not political pressure on first of all Merrick Garland, 627 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 7: who Joe Biden is the boss of, and then David Wiss, 628 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 7: who Merrick Garland is the boss of. 629 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 6: I don't know what is Miranda. 630 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 4: I've thought for a while that they were going to 631 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 4: bring charges against Hunter, meaning Merrick Garland, in a way 632 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 4: that would allow them to then bring charges against Trump. 633 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: But when I see things that are clearly political in nature, 634 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 4: like the decision to go and rest Santos on the 635 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 4: same day that all this news is coming out of 636 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 4: about Biden, what do you think is going to happen? 637 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 4: And how destructive is it to notions of American justice 638 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 4: in general that we can have these conversations and that 639 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 4: a huge percentage of Americans not along and believe that 640 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 4: our Department of Justice, as well as the FBI is 641 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: completely corrupt and taken over by one political party to 642 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: advance their interest at the expense of the other party. 643 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, and the CIA from the new revelations from Jim 644 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 7: Jordans sree point this week, the CIA, the fifty one 645 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 7: former intelligence officials who signed that bogus letter just before 646 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 7: the election, pretending that the hunter Biden's laptop and the 647 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 7: email and our reporting was Russian disinformation. Turns out, as 648 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 7: Jim Jordan's report today showed that the CIA basically approved, 649 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 7: gave a pre publication classification clearance unusually to a very 650 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 7: controversial letter in five and a half hours. And not 651 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 7: only that, but there was a CIA employee who actively 652 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 7: solicited a former CIA employee to former CIA analyst David 653 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 7: Carrions to sign that letter. And so that just shows 654 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 7: that the CIA was complicit in that dirty trick, that 655 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 7: political stunt, which was aimed at giving Joe Biden a 656 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 7: talking point in that final debate against Donald Trump and 657 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 7: ensure that he won and that Donald Trump did not 658 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 7: win the reelection. So, CIA, FBI, DOJ you have a 659 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 7: big chunk of the country quite rightly suspecting that they 660 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 7: are just corrupt and irredeemable. And that's a really dangerous 661 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 7: position to be in. But look, I think on a 662 00:39:52,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 7: positive note, you know, the truth and write is very powerful, 663 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 7: and I think what this today James Coma's committee and 664 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 7: his second memo has shown is that they've just doggedly 665 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 7: gone after bank transactions. They have evidence that's incontrovertible. The 666 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 7: only thing the Democrats and their complicit media can do 667 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 7: is ignore it, which is what they're doing. But ultimately 668 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 7: the weight of the truth becomes too enormous, the pressure 669 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 7: to continue to lie and cover up collapses on itself. 670 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 7: It's much more difficult the Democrats and the White House 671 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 7: and the Biden administration and Joe Biden himself. It's much 672 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 7: more difficult for them to get out from under this 673 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 7: than it is for Coma and Co. With their subpoena 674 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 7: power to pursue the truth. 675 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 6: And you know, the biggest. 676 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 7: Problem I think we have is just dishonest media outlets 677 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 7: that are still perceived by at least half the country 678 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 7: has been pressed and all the news that fit to print, 679 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 7: and democracy dies in darkness. Which are their mottos, they're 680 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 7: not at all. They They give you, you know, a limited, 681 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 7: their own, curted part of the truth which suits their 682 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 7: political purposes, their political propaganda machines aimed at keeping the 683 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 7: Democratic Party or you know, people in the uniparty that 684 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 7: they like in power. And this is a really corrupt 685 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 7: problem that we have. I don't know how you fix 686 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 7: that other than I think Americans are going to alternative 687 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 7: sources for media. And at some point when they realize 688 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 7: slowly but surely, and they get red pilled that they've 689 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 7: been lied to and kept in the dark about the 690 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 7: immense Biden corruption that's being unveiled, I think they will 691 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 7: turn with a vengeance on those dishonest media outlets. 692 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 3: Render Divine. Check out her book Laptop from Hell. Look 693 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 3: for her columns at the New York Posts. Branda always 694 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 3: appreciates you, Thank. 695 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 7: You, thanks so much. 696 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 6: Bye. 697 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 3: With inflation on the rise on the stock market more 698 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: volatile than ever, protecting your retirement savings can be a 699 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: challenge to whether today's economic uncertainty. Phoenix Capitol Group recommends 700 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 3: diversifying your investments right now. They recommend high value US 701 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: oil and gas investments with current yields at range from 702 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 3: eight percent to twelve percent APY paid monthly. 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An individual who is removed 722 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 8: under Title eight is subject to at least a five 723 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 8: year bar on re entry into the United States and 724 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 8: can face criminal prosecution if they attempt to cross again. 725 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh so now we have such a tough border. 726 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 3: According to majorcas, all of a sudden, some laws that 727 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: they have just been ignoring will no longer be ignored 728 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 3: quite the same way. Well, we should all be so 729 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 3: thankful that for a moment here the law will be 730 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 3: the law kind of a little bit, at least in 731 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 3: a few areas. 732 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 2: I doubt it. But they've got a. 733 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: Massive mess on their hands. They absolutely know it. The 734 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 3: numbers are going to be out of control. It's all right. 735 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 3: The thing is, it's tough to find a way to 736 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: describe as rightly because it's already the worst borter that 737 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 3: it's ever been. We're out of superlatives. The numbers are outrageous. 738 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: It's about six million at this point who have entered 739 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 3: the country illegally. Under Joe Biden, it is we're at 740 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: the highest fentanyl overdose level ever, the most fentanyl pouring 741 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: into our country. It's almost all coming across the US 742 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 3: Mexico border. 743 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 2: And what are they doing about this? 744 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, now they're pretending that this is not what they've 745 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: been incentivizing all along. But I think in some ways, 746 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 3: you know, a Ronda Santis, yesterday it was announced it's 747 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: going to be sending more migrants, helping to send more 748 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 3: migrants to Democrat run cities. 749 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 2: Have you seen this? 750 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 3: That was a report out yesterday. I think Governor Abbott 751 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 3: of Texas is going to do the same thing. This 752 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 3: is very interesting because of what it actually shows us. 753 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: Here is Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, So when does she 754 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 3: when does it switch to the Is. 755 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 2: It Brandon Johnson? I believe is the guy's name who 756 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: is going? But when when does the switch occur? It's 757 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 2: a great question. I don't know when I got to 758 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: check which happens anyways, Mayor Lori Lightfoot in Chicago play 759 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: thirty two. 760 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 9: We've seen in the last couple of weeks a new surgeon, 761 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 9: migrants coming to Chicago on a daily basis, and that 762 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 9: is why today I have issued a declaration of emergency 763 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 9: the bolster our response to the arrival of the migrants. 764 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 9: This declaration empowers the city's Chief procumeran officer to exercise 765 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 9: the purchasing authority set forth in a municipal code to 766 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,479 Speaker 9: adequately address this declared emergency. It also directs all city 767 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 9: departments to undertake whatever efforts are feasible and necessary pursuant 768 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 9: of their powers to assist in and management of this 769 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 9: declared emergency. We shouldn't have to come to this point, 770 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 9: but here we are, and even in my final days 771 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 9: as mayor, it's important for us to step up and 772 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 9: respond to this burgeoning crisis. 773 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 3: So it's may fifteenth. It's just I knew it was close. 774 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: It's a few days away when Lloyd Lightfood is no 775 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 3: longer the mayor of Chicago and Brandon Johnson will take 776 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 3: over Clay. She's declared an emergency here because of the 777 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: migrants arriving, and she's also complained about the migrants arriving. 778 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 3: They say it's racist to have the migrants arrive in 779 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 3: these cities. Same thing with Eric Adams in New York City. 780 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 3: It does make you you wonder, Hold on a second, 781 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 3: this is what democrats want. They tell us that this 782 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 3: is where a nation of immigrants. They'll do the jobs 783 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 3: Americans won't do. They'll add to GDP. They're more law abiding, 784 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: except for the whole legal alien part, law abiding than 785 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: Americans are. And yet they tell us that it's a 786 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: massive imposition on their cities for these to arrive. 787 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: Why is that? Shouldn't they want. 788 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: Shouldn't New York be putting out ads for, Hey, illegal migrants, 789 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: come here. 790 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: We could use three million more of you. 791 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 4: It's gonna get much worse. And I don't know how 792 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 4: they're going to camouflage what a disaster it's going to be. 793 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 4: I said earlier. I wish I had thought, oh, the 794 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 4: Biden crime family, nine different members of the family, including grandkids, 795 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 4: getting paid by foreign interest. So let's go ahead and 796 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 4: arrest Santos on the same day. A part of me 797 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 4: thinks buck on Friday. With Title forty two being officially 798 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 4: ended and in theory everybody having to report on the border, 799 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 4: there's going to be some other hey, look at me moment. 800 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 4: Maybe they're gonna drop something on Trump with the DOJ. 801 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it feels so rigged right now. 802 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 4: The challenge is, I think the border story is going 803 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 4: to be a slow moving disaster because if we've got 804 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 4: over ten thousand people illegally entering that we know of 805 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 4: every single day, the highest is Bill Malujin tweeted that 806 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 4: he's ever seen on the border, a lot of those 807 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 4: people are going to have to basically be shipped to 808 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 4: other parts of the country. And I think many people 809 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 4: out there in Chicago and New York City and Washington, 810 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 4: D C. And even Martha's Vineyard places that have gotten 811 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 4: used to the idea of they can be pro illegal 812 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 4: immigration without having to bear any of the consequences for 813 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 4: being pro illegal immigration, are suddenly going to see that 814 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 4: Bill come do. And that's really what you've seen with 815 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 4: Lori Lightfoot, with Eric Adams, with Muriel Bowser, with all 816 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 4: of these different big city mayors suddenly being inundated. Remember, 817 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 4: they're just getting a tiny pinprick of the numbers that 818 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 4: are coming across in Arizona, that are coming across in Texas. 819 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 4: And one of the things that I think is going 820 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 4: to be intriguing to watch here Buck is and I 821 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 4: would say it's an overriding story that all of you 822 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 4: out there should be paying attention to. You pretty much 823 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 4: if you listen to this program, all of the big 824 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 4: stories that are going on, you might agree or disagree 825 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 4: with bucking Mind's perspective on those stories, but we're not 826 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 4: missing any major story that's taking place on. 827 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 2: A day to day basis. 828 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 4: How many people do you think who watch CNN and 829 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 4: MSNBC really understand what's going on at the border. We 830 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 4: made fun of Karine Jean Pierre for this, Buck, but 831 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 4: remember when when she was told, hey, people are just 832 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 4: walking across the border by Peter Doocey, and she laughed 833 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 4: as if, Oh, that's not really happening. No, that's exactly 834 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 4: what's happening. They don't know the truth. 835 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: Well, they'll they'll show video over at CNN of what's 836 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 3: going on. But it turned for the CNN audience, it 837 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: becomes a huge virtue signaling exercise. Oh my gosh, the 838 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 3: poor huddled masses at the border, we need to do 839 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 3: we need to do more for them. I mean not 840 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 3: in my neighborhood, but like the government needs to do 841 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 3: more for them, as long as they're not in my 842 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 3: kids school. We understand exactly how the left operates, the 843 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 3: hypocrisy that they will they will set up for their 844 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 3: own purposes on this, so that's how they'll show it. 845 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: And also they'll they'll just use it to attack Republicans 846 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: for like the Republican opposition to this. Look at these 847 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 3: these are women and children. Actually it's a lot of 848 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 3: single adult males now, which is different. It's a lot 849 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 3: of guys who are just skipping the immigration line. And 850 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 3: they're all gonna say the same thing. Oh, you know, 851 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 3: I'm here for asylum or whatever, and just in terms 852 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 3: of the lawlessness here and I'm sorry, but you know this, 853 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 3: this is important on a day when George Santos and 854 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 3: I'm not as you know, we've made fun of George 855 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 3: Santos here. Okay, we're not big George Santos fans, that's 856 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 3: not what this is about. But there's there's thinking someone 857 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: the clown and thinking somebody should have his life ruin 858 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 3: to go to federal prison and oh maybe also be 859 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 3: replaced by appointment by Kathy Hokl the Democrat governor. And 860 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 3: you know there's politics involved here too in New York 861 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: State obviously. But Clay, there's a public charge rule that 862 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 3: is part of the Immigration and Nationality Act that is 863 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 3: still federal law that says that you can that you 864 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 3: can be denied admission to this country on the grounds 865 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 3: that you will be a public charge, that that you 866 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 3: will be somebody who is going to be primarily dependent 867 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 3: on the government for subsistence. What's going on with all 868 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,720 Speaker 3: these migrants that are being bused. They're all being housed 869 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 3: and fed and medical care and everything else. So the 870 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 3: under the existing public charge rule, none of them should 871 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 3: be admissible. They're not going to homes that are taking 872 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 3: them in, they're not going to jobs that have requested them. 873 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 3: And it's you know, you could say, oh, well, well, 874 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 3: I guess let's ignore this law. But you know, George 875 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 3: Santos is getting some five hundred dollars something or other 876 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 3: that he didn't, you know, register for and they were 877 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 3: to throw him in prison. Meanwhile, people are getting tens 878 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars worth of benefits over the course 879 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 3: of maybe a year that they're not supposed to be 880 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 3: entitled to, and they're entering the country illegal. And if 881 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 3: you have any problem with this, you're a bad person. 882 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 3: That's what CNN is going to tell you. You're a 883 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 3: bad person. As long as they're not getting apartments on 884 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 3: the Upper West Side next to the CNN angers, then 885 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 3: that's a problem. 886 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's an example of, unfortunately what has occurred, which 887 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 4: is we don't have a justice department anymore. We have 888 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 4: a praetorian guard for the party in power. And even 889 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 4: worse than not having a justice department, we have an 890 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 4: entire propaganda media that will defend any decision they make 891 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 4: because they're so in the tank for the left wing 892 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 4: in this country. And so I would predict that CNN 893 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 4: and MSNBC will be down there Buck and they will 894 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 4: find a family and they will interview them, interview them, 895 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 4: and they will talk about what a humanitarian crisis it 896 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 4: is that this family is in danger or in peril 897 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 4: in some way on their journey to the United States, 898 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 4: And certainly that's a journey that they have undertaken for 899 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 4: their own benefit as a family. It's certainly peril, it's 900 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 4: certainly very dangerous. But they're responding to the incentive structure 901 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 4: put in place by Democrats. They as soon as Biden 902 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 4: won the election, buck the huge numbers of caravans of 903 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 4: people trying to come here started because they knew when 904 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 4: Biden took over that he was going to allow them 905 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 4: free passage by and large to the country. 906 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 2: I think we have to also step back. 907 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 3: What's the point of having a legal immigration system, which 908 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 3: many of the people, many people listening to this show 909 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 3: went through. What's the point of even having a legal 910 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 3: immigration system if we're going to allow this kind of 911 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 3: nonsense to be rewarded all the time. You know, we're 912 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 3: a country that's thirty three trillion dollars in debt. Why 913 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 3: do people from one hundred and sixty countries all over 914 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 3: the world, Why are they coming here, violating our law 915 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 3: by stepping into the US without permission and then staying 916 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 3: here by playing out some ruse that they all want 917 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 3: asylum when they really don't. It's because we're basically turning 918 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 3: into the world's you know, World Soup Kitchen and Welfare Award, 919 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 3: and that's not a good thing. We can't afford to 920 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 3: do that. We have our own poor here in America 921 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 3: that we should be tending to. We can't pay the 922 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 3: bills for the whole world. We can't give free healthcare 923 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 3: to the entire world. The reason people are coming, I know, 924 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: we're told, oh, it's just they everyone wants their American dream. Well, 925 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 3: that's the illegal immigration system, okay. Asylum is supposed to 926 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 3: be a very specific thing for people who if we 927 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 3: don't take them in, they're basically going to be tortured 928 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 3: and murdered. That's what asylum is really supposed to be for, 929 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 3: and instead it's just being abused, which means real asylum 930 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 3: seekers I note, also have a harder time getting in 931 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,919 Speaker 3: the country. There are real costs here, there are real downsides, 932 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 3: and no one's even discussing it. They're just the game 933 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 3: for the Democrats is, yeah, we want a secure border. 934 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: That's a lie. 935 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 3: They don't want a secure border because that would mean 936 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 3: a willingness to enforce the laws on the books, to 937 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 3: turn people away and to deport people who are here 938 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 3: illegally and they don't want to they want to do 939 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 3: the bare minimum. 940 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. 941 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna have our friend Julio Rosas down 942 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 3: at the border tomorrow. 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