1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to River Cafe, Table four, a production of iHeartRadio 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: and Adami's Studios. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: A few minutes ago, I sat at a table in 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: the River Cafe and spoke to Rudy Law, who was 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: a waiter here. He told me about growing up with 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: a father who cooked for him, his brothers and his sisters, 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: who insisted on family dinners, created a nut roast at 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Christmas for his vegetarian siblings and encouraged them all to 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: be adventurous in what they ate. Now, I am going 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: to sit down with Rudy's father, this wonderful man, Jude Law, 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: loved by his son and by me. 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: What could be better? Hello? 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Jude? 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: Know to have your sons talking so moving. 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: I was almost in tears, So before we start, would 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: you like to read the rest of that you've chosen? 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: Yes. Pair and almond tart serves ten to twelve people. 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: Six ripe commis pears, three hundred and fifty grams blanched 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: whole almonds, three hundred and fifty grams of unsalted butter softened, 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty grams of caster sugar, three eggs, peel, 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: halve and core. The pears place the pair halves face 22 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: down and in one layer in a prebated sweet pastry base. 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: Put the almonds in a food processor and chop until fine. 24 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: Cream together the butter and sugar with an electric mixer 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: until pale and light. Add the almonds, then the eggs 26 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: one by one. Pour this almond mixture over the pears, 27 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: Bake for forty minutes or until the filling is golden brown, 28 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: and set. Leave to cool, and serve with a dollop 29 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: of creme fresh m. 30 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: So we're sitting here with the pair and almond. 31 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: Tare award award. 32 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: It could be a reward. You can have it whenever 33 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: you want. We can stop the conversation to eat. That's 34 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: perfectly possible. I was really pleased that you chose this 35 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: recipe because, in fact, it's a recipe that I ate 36 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: in a restaurant called Benoit in Paris when Richard was 37 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: working there doing the Pompadoo, and we used to go 38 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: there and we used to finish the meal with this 39 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: pear and almond tart. And so it's not an Italian recipe, 40 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: but it's one that means a lot to me. Do 41 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: you know why you chose this recipe? 42 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: It's one of the many things, but certainly one thing 43 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: I always look forward to having wherever I come here. 44 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: And I'm someone who often encourages the other guests that 45 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 4: I'm meeting with to get other desserts so that we 46 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: can all try, you know, different plates, but this is 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 4: the one I always get. 48 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it about getting your guests when you 49 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: come to a restaurant to try as you say that 50 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: the A friend of mine told me the other day 51 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: that when he hires somebody, he always brings them to 52 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: the River Cafe, and if they choose squid, he doesn't 53 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: not sure. He wants to hire them test the squid test. 54 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 55 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: And he was saying, because there's so many exciting things 56 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: to have. I actually I think I would be impressed 57 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: by somebody who chairs squid. But I like the idea 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: that you encourage people to share. 59 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: I do. 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about it just struck me that, of 61 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: course I often have my initial meetings for jobs at 62 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: restaurants too. Yeah, and so in a weird way, I'm 63 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: being auditioned, and I'm auditioning them usually over food, because 64 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: I suppose food and how you eat and what you 65 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: eat and where you want to feel it is hugely revealing. 66 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: And if you're going to go on a journey together 67 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: creatively or one way, you're going to share insights and emotions, 68 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: you're going to share food. 69 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: And what about in the theater? Do you eat before? 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: If you're doing a performance in the evening? Would you 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: wait anything afterwards? 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: You have to, I have to eat before, but you 73 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: also then have to time it so that you've got 74 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: a couple of hours to digest it. Probably. I had 75 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: a lovely ritual when I was doing Hamlet. I would 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 4: arrive at the Windows, which is right next to Chiky's. 77 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: I'd get there a couple of hours before and they 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: were very sweet. They'd let me go in even though 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: they weren't always open, and have a little piece of fish, 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: so it was kind of clean protein, maybe a salad, 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: and then I can have a little sleep, wake up 82 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: and warm up and then do the plant. I did 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: that for aly seven. 84 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: Months and a great Hamlet. 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: It was thank you? 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: And would you go out after because when some of 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: my friends who are in the other week the idea 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: that you go out afterwards? 89 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: Yes? Did you like that? Do you like How do 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: you feel the end of performance? 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Well? 92 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: Initially, initially especially in that show, I had this ridiculous 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: rule that no, you know, I can't get it's going 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: to be exhausted. I can't get caught up in that. 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to go home every night really early. I 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: think that lasted about a week, and then it was like, 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: let's go out and great wine and eat great food 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: and celebrate because you're on a wonderful sort of high. 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: And it feels also it's such a lovely part of 100 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: the place. Sharing then what your friends or family have 101 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 4: thought if they come and see you. And then there's 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: a surprise too. Someone suddenly comes and you're like, oh, 103 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: I haven't seen you in years, thank you for coming. 104 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: And part of the ritual of production is to eat 105 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: together afterwards or as a company. 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: Would you go out with other actors or was it 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: usually always yeah, yeah, yeah. 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: There is sometimes a comparison between the drama of a 109 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: restaurant and the drama of the theater. Theater everywhere, Yeah, 110 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: and that I can work a night and have a 111 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: packed restaurant. But at the end of that performance you 112 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: think either it didn't quite work with the audience. I 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: could just feel there was not the mood. And I 114 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: used to come home to REGI and say, oh, I 115 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: said it's over. I'm giving up. I don't know what 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: I did, but tonight didn't work, or you'd come on 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: this incredible high of say that was a night to 118 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: remember and. 119 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: That anticipation of it. The doors are open is happening 120 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 4: and you can't go back. Then yeah, we're open, and 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 4: we close for another four hour. You know, it's it's 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: the same in a way in theater. Absolutely, the curtain 123 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: goes up, you're on. 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: You're on. 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: That reliance on each other to be a sort of 126 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: smooth operation is keys absolutely at the heart of it, 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: isn't it. And it becomes like trust and it becomes 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: it becomes you have a great trust and you in others. 129 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: And I think also you find out about yourself in 130 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: that environment because you really are having to be in 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: a team and or what kind of a team player am? I? 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: Rudy tell me that your mother was a really good cook, 133 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: is a really good cook, and so did you grow 134 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: up with good food? 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: I grew up with pretty good food. My mum cooked 136 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: with a lot of love. She grew up in Lancashire 137 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: and was the sort of sixties generation who ran away, 138 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: so she didn't actually run away. She moved to London 139 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: as a student and embraced the sort of swinging sixties 140 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: and was very much someone curious in exploring new possibilities, 141 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: and so yeah, I think that was reflected in the 142 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: food she then cooked us when we me and my 143 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: sister came along. 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: One of the thing that I've also noticed in these 145 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: conversations is how many people remember the food of their grandparents, 146 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: almost more than their parents. And I was wandering Lancashire. 147 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: Is that where Lancashire hot part comes from? 148 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: Yes? 149 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: Did you have that? 150 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: Not that I remember, but you're I think you're so 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: right about the influence of grandparents' food. My grandma's food 152 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: was fantastic, very hearty. 153 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: Is this the mother of your mother or your father? 154 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: Well, that's a complicated that's a long story that leads 155 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: off from food. My parents were both adopted, and my 156 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: mom's mum by adoption passed away when she was quite young, 157 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: so her sister, my mum's auntie, became a sort of 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: maternal role and that's who I always think of as 159 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: my grandma. He was complicated. 160 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: What did you do with your grandfather? 161 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: He was a plumber, He was a very successful plumber 162 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: in that area, and he would get up every morning 163 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: when we were there and cook everyone breakfast in bed, 164 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: every single. 165 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: Day, in bed and wait for your grandfather. 166 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: Oh no, actually I wouldn't. I'd get up and help 167 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: Uncle Alan, help, I'd help Alan, but everyone else would 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: stay in bed and he'd do a tray for everyone. 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: Isn't that amazing? I'm thinking back now, that's it's amazing, 170 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: pretty good. And you could order your egg you get 171 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 4: poached eggs, you can get fried. Yeah, he'd do fried, toast, bacon, coffee, tea. Yeah, amazing. 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: Surprised my mum and dad didn't go more often. This 173 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: is in Lancashon, a little town called bake Up, and 174 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: when we would go out to say hello to all 175 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: the aunties, it would start off wonderfully well because you 176 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: get a huge slice of cake. But the problem is 177 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: there were like six or seven aunties and by the 178 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: end of the trip you were eating six or seven 179 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: and you couldn't eat any more cake. 180 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: Cake. 181 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: It was scones, chocolate cakes, all sorts, but lots of cake. 182 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: So can I just say that that would have been 183 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: Rudy's for Rudy a great grandmother and he spoke at 184 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: great grandson today about the the cake. 185 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: When did you leave home? 186 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: I lived? I'm actually very young, seventeen I moved. I 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: had to move to Manchester because I'd got a job 188 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: on tell it, I was at school. I was all 189 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: set to sort of carry on my school career and 190 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: I had always wanted to be an actor. And I 191 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: got off at a job and I lived on my own. 192 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: I had my own little flat up in Manchester seventeen 193 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: and had to cook so I could. I sort of 194 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 4: learned then, but you know, I'd already picked up little 195 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: I used to love making little beef paupets. I'd make 196 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: little beef paupets. I remember my mum taught me chopping onions, 197 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: finding those bit of garlic. 198 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: Do you then start acting and traveling? I did. 199 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: I did, and my love affair with Italy really started. 200 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: I took a play on tour around Italy and I 201 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: was gone for seven or eight months, and we would 202 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: do a little town each day and then pack up 203 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: the set and drive to the next town. And being 204 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: there as a young adult, and being there with a 205 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: group of Italians who were running the tour and knew 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: every little tiny restaurant or those wonderful places you can 207 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: eat in Italy, in the little towns where you sit 208 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: with the family and you pay a little bit of 209 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: money and you eat what they eat, but the food 210 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: is spectacular, So you're sort of eating slightly more adventurous 211 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: Italian food than perhaps you would if you were to 212 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: go to a restaurant. And I just fell in love 213 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: with Italy there and then, and I've been going ever 214 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: since quite regularly, and I've been lucky enough to go 215 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: back and work there and make films there, which is 216 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: sometimes has often been some of the happiest experiences of 217 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: my life. 218 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: So what was it like being in Positana? Did you 219 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: stay there when you were doing Ripley? 220 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: Was that we weren't there so long? And my memory 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: of Ripley is more on the island of Iskia. 222 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I've never been there. 223 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: Shot. 224 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, just off Naples and next to Caprian Prody, and 225 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: we found this extraordinary restaurant right on the sea, and 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: it was almost as if they could sort of fit 227 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: shout of the back window and cook what they caught. 228 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: You know. We just sort of as a crew took 229 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: that over and it became the sort of heart of 230 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 4: the film really where everyone would congregate there after a 231 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: day's shooting and eat wonderful fresh fish food. 232 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: What about working and acting and eating because you know, 233 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I know that you're in of course, you're in Budapest hotel. 234 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: And I talked to West who said. 235 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: That he only really he would rather not give his 236 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: anybody any food at all during the day, maybe a 237 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: bowl of soup and give them soup for lunch, but 238 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: then the crew objected to the soup. 239 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: I think I'd agree with Wes on that that the 240 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: problem with lunches when you're filming is that you have 241 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: to take obviously that hour, but then it also takes 242 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: an hour to get everyone back and warmed up, so 243 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: sometimes you lose the momentum. So if you're in the 244 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: middle of a seed and suddenly someone says, right, okay, lunchtime, 245 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: you think, well, we're not going to get really back 246 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 4: to this for another three hours and you have to 247 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 4: start again. So I'd rather sometimes just carry on. I mean, 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: I also remember, I know that crews, you know, differ, 249 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: don't they, But but I remember working with one actress 250 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 4: who decided that the food was really unhealthy, and so 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: they sort of got it all changed to very gluten 252 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 4: free and all this, and there was an uprising because 253 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: of course the crew wanted their pie and custard and 254 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: they wanted the hearty stuff to keep them going. 255 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: You talk about your family, You talk about the influence 256 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: of your mother and your grandmother and your aunt, and 257 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: the cakes and Lancashire, and about being an actor and. 258 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: The excitement of eating. 259 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: You have six children and I know four of them, 260 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: you know, and I know that they're great kids. A 261 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: lot of influence of your parents and the way Rudy 262 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: spoke about the love that he had for food and 263 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: for you taking care of him. And he said that 264 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: you cooked, you know, you actually cooked for them, and 265 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: that you insisted on the dinners. And as I said 266 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: in my introduction, there was a Christmas when you made 267 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: the nut roast and you were in here meat eaters. 268 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: And he said, his sister and brother vegetarians, but there 269 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: was that kind of of taking care of each other. 270 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: So what is it like being a father of six children? 271 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: And food? 272 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: It's the element that defines me and brings me the 273 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: most joy and also the most concerned and dramas, but 274 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: makes me feel the most alive and talking about it 275 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: like this now makes sense that, yeah, the center of 276 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: that was the were the meals that we eat together 277 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: as they were growing up as a family, And that 278 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: comes directly from my parents, the importance of that, and 279 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: I think they, yeah, they talk about it. They love 280 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: it too. I mean, you know raph Iris and Rudy, well, 281 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: Rafa and Iris are now they've moved out now and 282 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: they have their own places, but you know, they still 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: come back for Sunday lunches or dinners, and I'm so 284 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: pleased that that was at the heart of their childhood. 285 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: And yeah, learning to cook vegetarian food because you know, 286 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: I had to respect their choices as veggies. And I 287 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: enjoyed the challenge of it, really and I enjoyed. Gosh, 288 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: it's funny talking about it like this because you realize 289 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: that the words you keep repeating and therefore what's at 290 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: the heart of it. But I enjoyed giving the love 291 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: of it. I enjoyed looking after them. I always say 292 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: this to friends who are expecting children, that you know, 293 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: the satisfaction you get when you're about to go to 294 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: bed and your kids all eaten, they're washed, they're in bed, 295 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: they're safe. It's just such a fantastic feeling. It's a 296 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: greatest sense of satisfaction and contentment that you've got there 297 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: another day and they're all right, you know, they've eaten 298 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: all of that, and that was an important part of 299 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: bringing them up to me. And and the adventurousness I 300 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: suppose because again it reflects I don't know. You know 301 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: people that go, oh, no, I don't like that, and 302 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: you think, well, have you tried it? You know that 303 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: was always that's always the first question to the kids, 304 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: and you think, no, just try it, you know, and 305 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: you see them suddenly thinking, oh, actually. 306 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's an octopus. 307 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: You think, I go and try a little bit. 308 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: It's really good. 309 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: But I think that's that trying it probably then carries 310 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,239 Speaker 2: over to other parts. 311 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Of absolutely, and I think you get a connection, to say, 312 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: with a country or a nation or a nationality because 313 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: of the food. If you know you like their food, 314 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: you sort of think, oh, yes, why do they cook 315 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: like that? Or what? 316 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: That's interesting? 317 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: You know, it opens your eyes and your heart to culture. 318 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: It's I won't, I won't, I won't steer into politics. 319 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: But what's amazes me about not you know, the idea 320 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: of sort of not embracing immigrants and refugees or but 321 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: you know this, this to me what certainly in London, 322 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: but the heart of this country is the influence of 323 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: other countries. The food and the culture that they bring 324 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: makes this the most fantastic country. 325 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: So if we think that food is so movingly expressed 326 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: by your son and by yourself as food is love, 327 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 2: the food is a connection, The food is memory, and 328 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: food is parenting, and food is curiosity and part of 329 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: our world that we care for. It's also comfort, isn't it. 330 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of what we do and we 331 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: need comfort. So for my last question to do law, 332 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: what would be your comfort food? Not when you're hungry, 333 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: not when you want to cook for somebody else, because 334 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: you're such a giver and you're talking all the time 335 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: about what you can do for everyone and your children, 336 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: what would be your comfort food? 337 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: What would you turn to? 338 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: Well, I have two that spring to mind. The first 339 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: one is ice cream. I love ice cream. I love 340 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 4: variety of flavors, and I love that you can almost 341 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: have a sort of a conversation with different flavors if 342 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 4: you get them right. So if you get a little 343 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: lemon and chocolate and then maybe hazel nut. I mean, 344 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: that's a really interesting combination. I'm trying to. 345 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: Three scoops, scoop, hazel, lemon and ice cream. 346 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: Separately. 347 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe even ice cream too. Yeah. 348 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: But then the other thing that comes to my mind, 349 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 4: and this is an odd one, is nuts. I love nuts. 350 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: But type all types, salted, unsalted, salted. I'm afraid. 351 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 4: I mean, I realized it's really bad for me. I 352 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: eat a lot of nuts, and yeah, I love them, almonds, peanuts, cashews, maceadamia's, 353 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 4: brazil nuts. 354 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: I hope you don't need much c because I think 355 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: you are surrounded by love of our friends and your children. 356 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: But comfort is good, and certainly you have been my comfort. 357 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: And it's cold December night. 358 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jude, it's my pleasure. 359 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: Thank you good oh, thank you. That was lovely. 360 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: This holiday season. 361 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: If you can't come to the River Cafe, the River 362 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: Cafe will come to you. 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