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Speaker 2: What is the Mets up?

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Speaker 1: Listeners back here for episode number fifty seven of the

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Speaker 1: met stub podcast. Of course, I'm your coast draftneck Mark

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Speaker 1: Mark Luiso here with James Jeter had no range talking

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Speaker 1: about the New York Mets. There's not a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of news to go over, but we're still gonna make

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the president of Baseball Operations update

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Speaker 1: here because apparently everybody in the baseball world seemingly forgot

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Speaker 1: that the Mets don't need to be in a rush

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Speaker 1: to sign a president of Baseball Operation.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all the players of the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets that we're gonna do a quiz see how

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Speaker 1: many of the guys we know, and we're also gonna

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Speaker 1: be grading all the players that matter. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: but Lindor Nimo McNeil, all the guys that you could

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Speaker 1: think of. We're gonna give them grades, gives you our

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Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions on how they played during this twenty

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Speaker 1: and now's the perfect time to bring in James, who, as.

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Speaker 2: You can see, we're together again. We're we're in the

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Speaker 2: same place.

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Speaker 1: We got a in person episode here and those are

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Speaker 3: And I just want to say, this is the longest

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Speaker 3: we've ever been away from you guys. Listeners, it's been

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Speaker 3: eight days, so we're really happy to see you again.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you again, miss you guys.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting because you know, we always talk about

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Speaker 1: what episode is it? I always ask fifty seven, I

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Speaker 3: And I think the next big news that's gonna come

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Speaker 3: And it's also literally in Major League Baseball's bylaws that

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who have.

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Speaker 3: And that also plays into this waiting game because when

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Speaker 3: I wanted the Mets to take almost every single day

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Speaker 3: Like you could probably convince me that Bobby Hack, Will Cousins,

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Speaker 2: I mean, rattle off some names.

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Speaker 1: We've got Mike Chernoff from Cleveland, Matt Arnold Milwaukee, Scott Harris,

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Speaker 1: We have no inside information. Let's just go ahead and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So like I think the idea that the Mets

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Speaker 1: There's really absolutely no reason to panic right now that

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Speaker 2: Trouble finding their guy. I saw the word dumpster fire

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you kidding me? It's October with the day

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Speaker 1: There's still actual baseball being played the Mets. The Mets

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Speaker 3: The Rays just lost. I'm sure the Mets wind the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want the Mets to rush. I don't

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Speaker 2: Like low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna talk about the Mets because the Mets

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Speaker 3: The Mets have one of the most vivacious fan bases

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Speaker 3: I will never let Buster on a tweet about the

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Speaker 3: But I don't care, because he's a freaking idiot. I

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Speaker 3: Buster Only's an idiot. I take that. Backs Only is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: All of these guys always get more jobs because that's

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Speaker 3: I have never heard his name thrown around ever for

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Speaker 3: Logan Gilbert was a guy who sat in ninety three

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Speaker 3: ninety four when he was coming up through college and

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Speaker 3: through the system. He was ninety six ninety seven this

443
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Speaker 3: year in the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. Who's the other guy besides Emerson Hancock George Kirby.

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Speaker 3: George Kirby is the guy who commands four pitches. He

446
00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 3: was throwing ninety three, ninety four miles an hour. He's

447
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Speaker 3: sitting ninety eight.

448
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Speaker 2: Boy Williamson too right, Yeah.

449
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Speaker 3: Brandon Williamson, very sneaky prospect. No one knows about him.

450
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Speaker 3: He was throwing ninety one ninety two with a wipeout slider.

451
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Speaker 3: Now he is sitting ninety six and he's going to

452
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Speaker 3: be a monster in the next few years. Guys who

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Speaker 3: have put created systems like that very quickly are guys

454
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Speaker 3: who I want to come to the Mets. Another guy

455
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Speaker 3: who fits that, Bill Ross Atkins of the Blue Jays,

456
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Speaker 3: the executive vice president of baseball operation there and the

457
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Speaker 3: general manager. Two hands, two hands, two jobs, guys, two jobs.

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Speaker 2: You can do everything.

459
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Speaker 3: Their players development is elite and this past I think

460
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Speaker 3: year and a half has shown everyone that internally the

461
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Speaker 3: Blue Jays pitching development has crossed into a new echelon.

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Speaker 1: These are all guys who can be great. And again

463
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Speaker 1: this is literally literally a tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 3: There are minimum one hundred executives across Major League Baseball

465
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Speaker 3: who can perform this job for the Mets at a

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Speaker 3: high level. Guys no one's ever even heard of them.

467
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Speaker 3: Guys you'll never hear of. These guys don't even have

468
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Speaker 3: Wikipedia pages. I did this research on LinkedIn that that's

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Speaker 3: where you get this shit from. Like, just we really

470
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Speaker 3: want to reiterate that not getting those Big three is

471
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Speaker 3: so incredibly okay.

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Speaker 2: And while the media may construe.

473
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Speaker 3: It as a failure and another tally on the Mets

474
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Speaker 3: belt right here that they stink, it's just not true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we talked about this a little bit

476
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Speaker 1: earlier too, off you know podcast about hind Bloom and

477
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Speaker 1: all the negative tweets about when they brought him in

478
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Speaker 1: and what he was doing in trading Mooki and everything,

479
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Speaker 1: and what do you know, within a year they might

480
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Speaker 1: be on their way to the World Series.

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Speaker 2: So, like, it just goes to.

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Speaker 1: Show you that while there are some big names out

483
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Speaker 1: there and you might want him, there are so many.

484
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Speaker 1: How many of you knew heim Bloom before the Mets

485
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Speaker 1: were even interested in him and.

486
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Speaker 3: Told him no and don't lie to us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody, nobody knew who heim Bloom was. He was

488
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Speaker 1: a classics major from me from Yale. This guy's in

489
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Speaker 1: that wasn't a baseball guy like conventionally, but he gets

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Speaker 1: the job done.

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Speaker 2: Breed Dan Well, he.

492
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Speaker 3: Was similar to Turnoff where he got an internship with

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Speaker 3: the Rays in college and he literally never looked back.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested in those guys work their way up.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to see a smart guy

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Speaker 1: with the Mets, and I think they will end up

498
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Speaker 1: getting the right guy there. But I think that's probably

499
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Speaker 1: enough of the president Baseball operations talk here. Let's go

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Speaker 1: ahead and start talking about the biasing that you alluded

501
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Speaker 1: to a little bit as well. Uh Andy Martinez coming

502
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Speaker 1: out with a report that the Mets are getting close?

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Speaker 2: What was it?

504
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Speaker 3: It was word for word, if the Mets make a

505
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Speaker 3: serious offer, early Bias would be inclined to stay. That

506
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Speaker 3: was from S and Y Mets. The regular s and

507
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Speaker 3: Y had one too, and I'm gonna look up real quick.

508
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Speaker 3: On the day of thumb Gate, it was a near

509
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Speaker 3: certainty that Bias would soon be a former Met. Now

510
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Speaker 3: there is a real chance that they will agree early

511
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Speaker 3: in the offseason. So Andy Martine was really really throwing

512
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Speaker 3: some chum out there that Hobby Bias seems like very

513
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Speaker 3: likely to come back to the Mets, which seems incredibly

514
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Speaker 3: peculiar because, like we just talked about, there's no one

515
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Speaker 3: running the base of operations for this franchise.

516
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Speaker 2: No nobody is.

517
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Speaker 1: So I guess that person who steps in is just

518
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Speaker 1: gonna have Hobby Bias on his team. Like there's worse

519
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Speaker 1: situations to step into.

520
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Speaker 3: There are but the gamut of the Hobby Bias contract,

521
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Speaker 3: which again is something that I wanted to like parse

522
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Speaker 3: our future episodes.

523
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Speaker 2: We didn't get it ready for today. It would have

524
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Speaker 2: been perfect if we did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's such a wide range of what Hobby

526
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Speaker 3: Bias and gets a free agent such it's an immaculate range.

527
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Speaker 2: One of the wiest rangers I've ever even seen for.

528
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Speaker 1: Free agent negotiations, and based on what he gets will

529
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Speaker 1: really signal the Mets outlook future like for the future,

530
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Speaker 1: like If he gets a real aggressive contract short term,

531
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Speaker 1: Mets are going for it, you expect big names. If

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Speaker 1: he gets a more long term contract with a little

533
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Speaker 1: less money spread out over the way, they still might

534
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Speaker 1: be going for Like there's a lot of different ways

535
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Speaker 1: to look at this, but it all feels like if

536
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Speaker 1: a hobby bias is back, Mets.

537
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Speaker 2: Are looking to make moves.

538
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Speaker 3: But that's just such an insane thing to saddle a

539
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Speaker 3: new president and general manager with, Like, oh, here's Haavey

540
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Speaker 3: Baya is one of the most polarizing players in baseball.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you value him, but this is

542
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Speaker 2: how our owner values him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 3: And again it seems like I don't want to say

545
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Speaker 3: there's there's not fire where there's smoke, because Andy Martin

546
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Speaker 3: is dropping this on Tuesday afternoon is absolute lunacy. But

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Speaker 3: that also just leads me to believe that this sny

548
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Speaker 3: looking for clicks. Andy Martinez got bored.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super possible. Like again, there's no punishment for

550
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Speaker 1: him saying this and it being wrong.

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Speaker 3: No, of course, and like it's it just someone probably

552
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Speaker 3: made the nice graphic and they're like, yeah, let's get

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Speaker 3: this out today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds about right.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see when we have more hobby bias news,

556
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Speaker 1: and we, like you said, we're gonna definitely have like

557
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Speaker 1: a good chunk of an episode one day talking deep

558
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Speaker 1: about hobby baias.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

560
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Speaker 1: But now let's go ahead and do a quiz some

561
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Speaker 1: of you who watch my YouTube channel. No, I'm a

562
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Speaker 1: big fan of the Sporkle quizzes over here, and there's

563
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Speaker 1: a really good one. Can you name the twenty twenty

564
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Speaker 1: one Mets? There are sixty four guys that played a

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Speaker 1: game for the New York Mets in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see how well we can do. We've got

567
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Speaker 1: ten minutes to see if we can win this thing,

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Speaker 1: so I want to give it a shot here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're gonna get this all right.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, so you guys can play along with

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Speaker 1: us too. While you might not be able to see

572
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Speaker 1: it on the audio version, you'll be able to hear

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Speaker 1: our thoughts. And we're gonna tell you like the criteria

574
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Speaker 1: that's telling us as well.

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Speaker 2: It should be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be a good radio all right.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're getting Sartain one hundred and fifty two games play.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the big guys out of there. Let's go

580
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Speaker 1: Lindoro Alonso, Nimo, McNeil, Smith, Smith, Davis got to Smith's,

581
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Speaker 1: we got we got Drew Flow, Confordo is gonna be

582
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Speaker 1: on here as well.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to grom Stroman.

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Speaker 3: If you don't mind, I think we should knock out

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Speaker 3: some of the wilder names first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's actually fair. That's fair, all right, wild names, Tarpley, Tarpley, Tarpoli, Bostick, Wow, Bostick.

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Speaker 1: That is one I would not have remembered.

588
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Keen Bostik.

589
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Speaker 1: Uh, Anthony Bondago sic Yeah, good one, good one. How

590
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Speaker 1: about Tommy Hunter, Tommy Hunter, Khalil Lee Ah, Joe Eshwy Fargus,

591
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get me on a string now, Jake Hager.

592
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Speaker 2: Wilfredo Tovar.

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Speaker 1: That guy was so bad, the crap cash money maybe

594
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Speaker 1: cash money? Oh, we got Trevor may for that. Okay,

595
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: cash money Maybin all right? Who else we got here?

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Speaker 1: There has to be.

597
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Speaker 2: Some now, the other the real people, now, the now

598
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Speaker 2: the meat of this team.

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Speaker 1: All right, Diaz, there's gonna be two of them with

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Speaker 1: Yen c Oh wait, Jake, Oh wow, Jake Reid, good call,

601
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Speaker 1: good call?

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Speaker 2: Oh? How can we not forget our favorite girod I cough?

603
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Speaker 2: How do you spell it? I cough?

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Speaker 3: Or I cough cough?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I cough like when I watch this guy, I

606
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Speaker 1: got the ass. But wow, Dylan but Tances had played

607
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Speaker 1: one game as I met in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep thinking.

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Speaker 1: Lugo cashtro uh Nido. I know he's a catcher.

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Speaker 2: McCann.

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Speaker 1: Oh, who are some other catchers? Chance Cisco? There's one

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Speaker 1: more right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: There was?

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Speaker 1: Was Ali Sanchez? Or is that a few years ago?

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Speaker 1: Rene Rivera?

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Speaker 2: Is he still around? I'm gonna throw Rivera around?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Uh A? V are Polar VR and Polar Parazza, Parazza, Parazza.

620
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Speaker 2: How can we forget my boy? Al more of Freddie

621
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Speaker 2: Freeman home run off of Parazza? Last week? My dad

622
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Speaker 2: texted me that was his Parazza moment.

623
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you met off of hater was Yeah,

624
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a what a day? Familia Jerry's familia.

625
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Speaker 1: We're at thirty six of sixty four. We're forgetting some

626
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Speaker 1: big names here. We got Taiwan Walker, Yeah, Carrasco. Who

627
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Speaker 1: are some guys that made some starts? We had some

628
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Speaker 1: weird starters every once in a while. Oh Williams, Trevor Williams.

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Speaker 1: What about Robert Stock.

630
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Speaker 3: Robert Stock, Bobby Stock, Robert Williams. I've never forgotten Mason Walla.

631
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's go love that. I just had one.

632
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Speaker 2: I lost it. Oh Oh, I had it too.

633
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Speaker 1: Oh there he is ya, I'm a moto. How about McGill, mcguil.

634
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Speaker 1: How about Peterson? Everyone forgets about David Peterson. One forgets

635
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Speaker 1: about David Peters. There was a guy just had Oh

636
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Speaker 1: it's gonna drive me nuts. Oh my god, and I

637
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: had it. We were talking about Robert Stock.

638
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: It was that week. Oh, Jeff Hartleeb, Jeff Jeff Hartleeb.

639
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: That guy stunk. I didn't have that one.

640
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Speaker 1: Jeff Hartleeb, sorry for listening. You're terribleor may Yeah. I

641
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Speaker 1: don't think we typed him in with sixty nine? Nice

642
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: our boy. Okay, who else can we think of here?

643
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Speaker 2: We talked about depth with the Mets a lot. They

644
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of it.

645
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: There's some sixty three games that's gotta be a reliever.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, it's gotta be a guy who's on the

647
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Speaker 3: roster for a little while. Oh, that's either McKinney or Drew.

648
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna do both of them though. Billy bombs,

649
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Billy bombs. How can we forget too many? Ease Billy

650
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Speaker 1: McKinney and Drury fifty one?

651
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Speaker 2: Who's sixty three?

652
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: We got Lugo Diaz familia. It has to be a

653
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: depth bat loop loop there is let's go right forty seven. Man,

654
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: we're missing some guys. I got some serious playing time.

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Speaker 3: This is tough.

656
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Speaker 1: See. Oh oh, Jacob Barnes. Jacob Barnes seventeen, there we go, Yeah,

657
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: he's stunk. Sean Reid, yes.

658
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: Where before that guy go?

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00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: He just like got he played eleven games. This feels

660
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: like not a lot at all, not many. Oh boy,

661
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: who else do we have here?

662
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: There? We've hit a wall.

663
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: We're at fifty two of sixty four. There's like definitely Truman.

664
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: I had to have type Stroman, right, we went through

665
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: the whole uh rotation.

666
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: Oh Man Stroman, McGill, de gram gram Right, all right,

667
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: let's just go buy position cats. These five are gonna

668
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: be absolute slot catchers. There's some catcher we're forgetting.

669
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: Oh Miska, yeah, Moska. There we go. Thirty seven.

670
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that covers all the catchers. Yeah, if

671
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: you missed one, you got me.

672
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 2: First base, jos and Martinez get even one a bet,

673
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: let's just type it in. It's a good name. It's

674
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: a good name.

675
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: No, No, Martinez, Pete dom I think those are the

676
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: only places.

677
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: And Drury. Yeah, second base we had.

678
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: Mckinn's playing first base now for the Dodger or something,

679
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: just to show how important first base defenses.

680
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Second base we had McNeil, Piazza, Drury, Drury, Hagar, Tovar,

681
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: that's I'm kind of running into it. Shortstop was Lindor

682
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: and VR basically in gior May. Yeah, third base JD. Davis,

683
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: which we did, Jeff McNeil a little bit VR. There's

684
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: nobody else that played that position. There has to be

685
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: someone that was so bad that we're like, can't play

686
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: this guy anymore.

687
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: It's gotta be all pitchers now.

688
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: Right, man, this is who's the forty seven Who is

689
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: the forty seven games play?

690
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: That's gotta be a reliever.

691
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: We did Drew Smith, right, Yeah, did Drew Smith. Who

692
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: else is in the bullpen that we're forgetting about.

693
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: That's just who could that would have had the pitch

694
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 2: like the whole year to get that.

695
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: We did Castro, we did, Familia Diazrew Smith, we did

696
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: as we did.

697
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: Lugo, we did May.

698
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Whoa boy, we are hitting quite the slog here. Oh

699
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: my goodness, this is a slog flogged in. We're hitting

700
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: the wall all right, we're hitting the wall. Oh boy,

701
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: this is top fifty three or sixty four is a

702
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: pretty good number here yet.

703
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: But we got we gotta get sixty four. We're getting

704
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: someone to play forty seven games. Yeah, that's a lot

705
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: of games.

706
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: We were losing air credibility every second this class takes down.

707
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: Who have I complained about this year? That was so bad?

708
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: It's gotta be like a utility guy.

709
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: It's gotta be right.

710
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: Who's sticking around forever? Who do we trade?

711
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

712
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: Rich Hill? Yeah, Rich Hill, bias that's it. That's the

713
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: forty seven games?

714
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: Okay, But who do we trade?

715
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Is it anybody that we traded for?

716
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

717
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: No, for Rich Hill.

718
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: No, Tommy Hunter was a guy and I listed him.

719
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: We have twenty three games left, sixteen games, fourteen, fourteen

720
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: and a couple ones and two. So these were getting

721
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: really down to the nitty gritty of players on the Mets.

722
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that Jordan will only appeared in two

723
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: Mets games this year.

724
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: It felt like I had to throw at Vance Warley

725
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: just in case I missed one. There's gotta be someone

726
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: with like a weird one day start in open a

727
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: double header starter.

728
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh?

729
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: Who is the picture that the guy who was supposed

730
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: to be okay that you hated the picture the minor league,

731
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: the guy who've talked about triple A for years? What's

732
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: his name, the Booky Booky.

733
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Poky Zi Pooky, Yeah, yes, he got one. Okay, we

734
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: got Zupuoki. There's gonna be some weird bullpen arms out

735
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: there that got like n inning. It was twenty three,

736
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: twenty three? Is that's like a we got all the

737
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: starters right, starting pitchers?

738
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: You know it's not starting picture pitch most of the year.

739
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: Could it be? Are you missing?

740
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: Obviously?

741
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: Let's just go through it.

742
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: De Gram Walker already did Walker, right? I think I

743
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: did Walker, Stroman McGill, Carrasco, Peterson, lukez rich Hill, Peterson, Peterson. Damn,

744
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: this is getting hard. Twenty three twenty guys who came

745
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: in for a week or two, who played I put

746
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Fargas right. Yeah, I feel like we had all those

747
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Jeshwy Fargas play games. We had some awful players on

748
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: this team. At points we were pulling guys from organizations

749
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't have.

750
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Do we get like a do we have a battista? No?

751
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: How about ah?

752
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: No, this is not easy. Oh my god, fifty six

753
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: to sixty four of those pretty good. I'd like to

754
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: get sixty. I don't think we're going to with two

755
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: minutes left here on the clock, we're killing Oh my gosh,

756
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: fifty six of sixty four twenty three games is so

757
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: insignificant if you're not an everyday player.

758
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Mason Williams, that's like he was.

759
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: That was a miracle.

760
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: That's the kind of player that it's going to be.

761
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Though it is a Mason Williams, it's just so tough.

762
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't even I I actually genuinely don't have a clue.

763
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: I'm stumped. I don't I don't have one of these

764
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: guys left. I don't know how much longer I'm gonna

765
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: continue to let the clock run. Call it. I think

766
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna call it here.

767
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: I can't ten more seconds, ten more seconds to go

768
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: deep into the bowels of our brains and try to

769
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: think of guys like who played in Miami in thatwels?

770
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: Bowels is the right word here?

771
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, who played in Miami in that season?

772
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

773
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh, Heath Hembury.

774
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Ah, Heath Hembury, good call, Yes, Heath Hembury for sure?

775
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: Yes?

776
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Oh bred Oh how can we forget brad Hand?

777
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: There we go the more.

778
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: End of the season.

779
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: Waiver claims, who are some other any position players that

780
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: pulled in for no reason?

781
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: Of course there was there's, of course some kind of

782
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: player like I mean we had Jose I'm thinking like

783
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Jose Iglesias type.

784
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: So you're like, what where do we even get this guy?

785
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: And you guys who are on the team in September?

786
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh, there's didn't we have like a good a guy

787
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: who was like somewhat highly touted and then just never

788
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: panned out. No, I'm almore, I guess is in that

789
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: same boat. Oh my god, it's painful. These names are

790
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: gonna drive us crazy. I think we're gonna call it here.

791
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Five All right, calling it here?

792
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: We go?

793
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: Ready to see.

794
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we missed. Travis blanken.

795
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, we got some bad misses here, all right,

796
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: so we got ninety one percent, which is way higher

797
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: than the average score. Travis Blankenhorn. Gselman's a bad miss.

798
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: But he's so forgettable. Blankenhorn is a bad miss. He

799
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: said the bench bad.

800
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: It was a betch bat Yep, Gaselman super forgettable. Coreo's well,

801
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he pitched.

802
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: I forgot.

803
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: That was like those July times, the bad time.

804
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: Trevon Hildenberger. Yeah, remember he pitched twice SpongeBob character. Yeah, no,

805
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: cinder guard.

806
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: That was bad. That's pretty bad. That's bad.

807
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: But he basically wasn't on this team. He put two witterings,

808
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: I know. And then Nick Tropiano. I don't even remember

809
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: him making it up. Pear, I remember him his name

810
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: coming up, but that's about it. Yeah, all right, fifty

811
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: eight to sixty four. Let's just take a quick look

812
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: at the quiz stats here and see which was the

813
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: hardest one. Uh So, yeah, Hildenberger was the least answered one,

814
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: and the hardest one that we got right was a

815
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Queen Bostic.

816
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: So that boy, James, good work.

817
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: There we go, and this is a perfect lead into

818
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: now talking about grading some of the players on this team,

819
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: because now that we know all sixty four guys that

820
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: were the Orange and Blue this year, let's talk about

821
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: some of those guys a little more in depth.

822
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: Definitely, we're not gonna do every player this episode because

823
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot. And then I also want

824
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: to do a quick AFL update to close the show,

825
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: like in akin to our former prospect updates we used

826
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: to do, and we're not doing anywhere our twenty minute episodes.

827
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: Maybe when the Mets either sign a big free agent

828
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: or when if the President Baseball Operations really breaks our brain. Sure,

829
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: but for now we got like we're gonna keep these,

830
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: We're not. We're not doing eighty minutes.

831
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Here, No, So let's go ahead and get a start

832
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: off with probably the biggest guy on this team that

833
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: everyone wants to talk about and probably the most pole

834
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: rising player right now, grading wise, Francisco Lindor.

835
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk about him.

836
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Ended up actually having a fine season, fine year all

837
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: things considered, but there's definitely not as good as we

838
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: were hoping. That's one hundred percent, Like clear, he did

839
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: not live up to the expectation of the hype. I

840
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: don't know how you're feeling. How are you feeling about Lindor.

841
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I I have migrade in my head. I see years

842
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: written down, So I'm gonna try to keep away from

843
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: those too much.

844
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you be the stat guy as you

845
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: normally are here.

846
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: Also, I'm just I'm incredibly bullish on Francisca Lindor as

847
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: a player right now, Like I almost couldn't really be

848
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: more so in terms of him having like an awful

849
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: fifty game stretch to start the year. Even though he

850
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: missed six weeks, he still wound up with the second

851
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: most play appearances on this team, which I thought was

852
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: a pretty cool little notch for him. By the end

853
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: of the season, both his WRC plus and his OPS

854
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: plus got over one hundred, which is crazy because those

855
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: sat like in the sixties and seventies for most of

856
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: the season. Because he was so hot down the stretch,

857
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: and he still hit that's one year home run plateau

858
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: with what that was a six homer September, he wound

859
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: up having the best months of his entire career. He

860
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: was also in one hundredth percentile of outs above average

861
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: on Baseball Savant I think he was wound up being

862
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: fourth or fifth in baseball behind Nick Imd Chapman. I

863
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: figured it was on the short stop up there, but

864
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: not important. So to show that his glove is still elite,

865
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 3: which is a big part of Francisco Indoor's value.

866
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: He wound up with the highest walk.

867
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: Rate of his entire career, over eleven percent, which that's

868
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: pretty select company when you're walking one ten percent of

869
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: the time. He also, in terms of actual hitting for power,

870
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: had the second highest barrel rate of his career. Francisco

871
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: Indoor was always a guy like Alex Bregman, where he

872
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: had power, but he didn't really have the barrels to

873
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: back it up, just because he had such incredible back

874
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: control and didn't like miss many pitches. So him elevating

875
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: that barrel rate is a pretty big deal moving forward.

876
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: It shows that there could be an adjustment that he

877
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: made this year that helped him unlock even more power.

878
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: And he had the lowest chase rate of his career,

879
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: and that matched up with having one of the lowest

880
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: k rates of his career. I just I see so

881
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: many positives about Francisco Indoor going into the next season.

882
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: I really want to give him a good grade, and

883
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: I said, I think a month ago, and we took

884
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: shots at the Washington Post idiot who had a stupid

885
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: article when he didn't know how to say stats correctly.

886
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: But since June first, since this, Francisco Indoor plays seventy

887
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: nine games, so basically half a season when you're gonna

888
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: bake in four or five off days a year for

889
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: a guy like Lindor, three hundred and twenty four played appearances,

890
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: sixteen home runs, fifty one run scored, fifty two RBIs

891
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: a two fifty two three forty for eighty two slash.

892
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: That's a pretty serious ops and one hundred and twenty

893
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: four WRC plus. That's the mark of an elite player

894
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: if you extrapolate that over a full season sample. And

895
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 3: that's the guy who played the last five years for Cleveland.

896
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: That's the guy who the Mets thought they were trading for.

897
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: And that's the guy that's worth thirty million.

898
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: Dollars per season. YEP. So I'm going to give Francisco

899
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: Lindor a beat.

900
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: And I'm relatively close to you. I'm kind of in

901
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: that B minus C plus range. And the only reason

902
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: I say that C plus is because while he did

903
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: finish the season strong, you can't, you know, look past

904
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he did not perform to what was

905
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: expected for the entire year. While he is doing a

906
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: lot of good things right now, and I'm not worried

907
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: about him by any means, I think the C plus

908
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: is just warranted in that there was so much hype

909
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: around him and he didn't live up to it yet.

910
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: But like you said, there's a lot of good stuff

911
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: going on with him, and just be excited going to

912
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: next year.

913
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: Definitely, if I think I'm thinking about franciscol indoors grade here. Oh,

914
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: we've all been in school some points in our lives,

915
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: some of us, we have some of the listeners at

916
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: home have done college. The general college semester you get

917
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: three midterms in a final. The way I looked at

918
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: this semester for school indoor was an F on the

919
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: first midterm, probably a B plus on the second, a

920
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: on the last one, and the final broad all together

921
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: really found himself as a semester went on and that

922
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: would average out to about a B grade.

923
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's hovering around that seventy eight to.

924
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: Eighty three range, and he just knows he didn't prepare

925
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: well enough for the first test, and if you would

926
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: have had it, he would have wound up with an

927
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: A and it would have been just like all his

928
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: other semesters. That was a good way to explain it.

929
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: I like that he just wasn't prepared for the first

930
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: There wasn't ready for the first part of the season.

931
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: He didn't really know what was gonna hit him. He

932
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: was coming to it his freshman year, came to a

933
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: new place, new city, new people around him, new experience.

934
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how a college professor grades well.

935
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: Of course not.

936
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: I know the New York media grades differently. He wasn't

937
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: aware of that yet. Boot is the booze. That was

938
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: a big It was a big turning for Fancisco Indoor

939
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: this season. But I'm very hopeful. I an want to hopeful,

940
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: hopeful his hope, I'm not. I'm very confident forciscal Indor

941
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: heading into next season.

942
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: Definitely.

943
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Pete Alonzo, who probably had one of

944
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: the better seasons on this team. Pete really took a

945
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: step forward. I think with his career this season. He's

946
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: always been good. He really hasn't ever played poorly with

947
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: the Mets. He'll go through his stretches where he's hot

948
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: and cold. But I feel like that fifty was it

949
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: fifty three home runs? Yeah, that fifty three real home

950
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: run season set the bar a little high for him.

951
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: That's not realistic for anybody. I mean, look at the guys

952
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: who hit fifty home runs multiple fifty home run seasons

953
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: in their career. It's far and few between. There's not

954
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, and I.

955
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Think Pete will join that list.

956
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: I bet he'll at least find one more season with

957
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: fifty home runs, especially because the MLB's is definitely going

958
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: to screw up the ball again.

959
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course out, but to expect that in his

960
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: third year after he did it in his rookie year

961
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: is unlikely.

962
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Unlikely.

963
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: But if you look at the numbers, and even in

964
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: this shortened season in twenty twenty where he had a

965
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: down year, still a very very good player, and he

966
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: continued on that again this year.

967
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: He's getting more comfortable New York.

968
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: It seems like he's starting to really understand, at least

969
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: what it seems like to try and be a leader.

970
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: He seems like he's trying to take that role a

971
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: little bit more. I really loved Pete Alonzo season A A.

972
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything else.

973
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: But A that's the game in a minus because it

974
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: wasn't in a like he could he could have been better, Yeah,

975
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: Like he could become more consistent like Pete while he

976
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: was the steady Eddy for this Mets team this season,

977
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: he just does have those ebbs and flows. But he'll

978
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: go through two weeks, We'll have one hit, and then

979
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: he'll go through a week We'll have four home runs.

980
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: Like that's just the way Pee Alonzo plays like. I'm

981
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: not saying that's like necessarily a bad thing, because again,

982
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: I'll all even out over the course of the season.

983
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: But if he does really want to ascend to be

984
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: a superstar, he could probably change some small aspects of

985
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: his approach just a little bit to create more consistency

986
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: in his game. Even though he did lead this team

987
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: to play the appearance, he obviously led them in home runs,

988
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: he obviously led them in RBIs. He somehow had the

989
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: highest batting average on the New York Mets for any

990
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: player that played more than one hundred games.

991
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: That feels wrong, It's insane, it feels wrong.

992
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: But he hit that two sixty number to the actual

993
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: hit the.

994
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: Two sixty number.

995
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Ah, I think he was like either like two fifty

996
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: eight or two sixty, which like even. And then for

997
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: pet Anzo, who's a slugger, he's a home run hitter.

998
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: That is what you're there for.

999
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: You don't see many guys who are that home run

1000
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: hitter type, like obviously you have Soto flat Junior.

1001
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: Those guys are different. But Pete Alonso is there to

1002
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: strictly hit home runs.

1003
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty good year for a guy who

1004
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: didn't really like project to be that kind of hitter

1005
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: for average.

1006
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 3: And that is also so impressive when you think about

1007
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: the fact that the league average batting average was two

1008
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: forty four and Pete on the season hit two sixty two.

1009
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: So Pee Alonso is hitting twenty points higher than league average,

1010
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: while being one of the best power hitters in baseball,

1011
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: while consistently hitting one of the five hardest hit balls

1012
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: in baseball, and while he cut his k rate by

1013
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: over five percent and also got the k rate below

1014
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: league average in nineteen point nine percent under twenty percent

1015
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: k rate that's in the elite range. And of course

1016
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: pe Alonzo did it by one tenth of a point. Cool,

1017
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: but the league average twenty two percent strikeouts like twenty

1018
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: three point six percent strikeouts.

1019
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: This is a player who.

1020
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: Is becoming elite, and I think that Pee Alonso has

1021
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: very small steps to take until that happens.

1022
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: Of cool, So if the defense improved, he did.

1023
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: He played a very good first base this year, and

1024
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: I also did think in twenty nineteen while he wasn't

1025
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's not graceful by it, he means still

1026
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: at that position. I thought he got a bad rep

1027
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: as a bad defensive first base when you watch some

1028
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: guys out there like Luke Voight, he doesn't have hands.

1029
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: C J.

1030
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: Crone. C J Crone has no hands.

1031
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: No, you throw it and it might not go into

1032
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: that glove if it hits him there.

1033
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Peter A. Lonzo, his scoops are unbelievable scoops.

1034
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: But he's still a bad UZR. His fan Grafts defensive

1035
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: rating was poor. OAA and Savant had him very high,

1036
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: and those two things take different stuff into account. UDR

1037
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: doesn't take the defensive positioning into account well. OA does,

1038
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: and the Mets have a lead positioning as they made

1039
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: the adjustment this year to shift much more and does

1040
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: have better ships in general, but just being in better

1041
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: position probably help the Alonso also because he always think

1042
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: that stupid over extending himself thing you would knock the

1043
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: ball out of the second base hole and just ruin

1044
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: a play. I think he's just becoming more confident and

1045
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: more comfortable and hopefully even though he's a do for this,

1046
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: becoming a leader of this team.

1047
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1048
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: No, a very good season for Pete AA minus super

1049
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: fair Greade. Let's talk about Jao dground. Let's get the

1050
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: big three out of de gram next short season. Only

1051
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: played fifteen games, which is like super depressing to see.

1052
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: I think to grade him you have to talk about

1053
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: what he did on the field, like because for the

1054
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: entire season, only fifteen games, it's a letdown. But that's

1055
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: not really anything that he could have done. So it's

1056
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: a really hard to grade. But performance when he was there,

1057
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean a plus, say there's no other way around.

1058
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: It, of course a plus.

1059
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: But I want to be a jerk here, But the

1060
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: number one ability is availability, of course, and a full

1061
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: season of Jacob de Grom probably gets this Mets team

1062
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 3: from sub five hundred into the playoffs, at least.

1063
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: In the conversation. At the absolute worst, So that would

1064
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: have helped us out a ton. I mean, in his

1065
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: time while he was playing, he was just buy and

1066
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: large the best pitcher in baseball, not even close. Nobody's

1067
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: numbers were even comparable. His ra was hovering under one

1068
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: for most of the season. He was unbelievable. He's not human.

1069
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: As few appearances that Jacob de Grom had this year,

1070
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: he still wound up being in the eleventh most valuable

1071
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: starting pitcher in terms of fangrafs f war I'm silly,

1072
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: more valuable than Aaron Nola, Dylan Ceese, Sandi al Concera,

1073
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: Jose Barrios, Frankie us Lucas Giulido, Robbie Ray, who might

1074
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: win the Alsa Young possibly Jacob de Gram had a

1075
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: higher four. All these guys, Max Freeda and Wayne Wright

1076
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: and were through two hundred six innings, and Jacob de

1077
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: Gram and his one hundred was more valuable. Yes, it

1078
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. It thinks that Jacob de Gram

1079
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: is doing this year. It just sucks that we were

1080
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 3: robbed from one of the greatest pitching seasons of all time.

1081
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: And you just can't help but think in the back

1082
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: of your mind that it has something to do with

1083
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: the velocity. Jacob de Gram had the third most pitches

1084
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: thrown over one hundred miles an hour in all of

1085
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 3: baseball this year. The only guys with more were Jose

1086
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: Alvarado and Emmanuel Classe. Those guys were relievers who pitched

1087
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: the entire season. J Grom's not pitching in the middle

1088
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: of July. The next closest starting pitcher in pitches of

1089
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: one hundred miles an hour or abuffs de Gram with

1090
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: Sandy Alcncera with one hundred and twenty eight less. Doesn't

1091
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: even make sense. Literally, these aren't real numbers, but you

1092
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: just think that at some point, maybe if the Gram

1093
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: was sitting ninety seven instead of one hundred and one,

1094
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: he could have pitched the year out and still been

1095
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: probably far and away the best pitcher in baseball.

1096
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be super interesting to see what's really going

1097
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: to happen next year because we kind of still don't

1098
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: really know what's going on with the whole idea.

1099
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: This really just feels like it could be a sale situation.

1100
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, scary, not happy about it. Let's stop talking about it.

1101
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Let's move on to a next player. No grades for

1102
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: the ground two grade, yeah, two sad degrade if you're

1103
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: putting a gun to my head.

1104
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: A plus, because obviously he's the man.

1105
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: But let's talk about Michael Confordo now, who is one

1106
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: of the probably more polarizing players in Mets Land. Right now,

1107
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: he's actually not even gonna be on the Mets really

1108
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: technically right now, he's no longer in New York Met I.

1109
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: Believe, I think the new League year.

1110
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Okay, but he's on his way one of the guys

1111
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: who the Mets can negotiate with right now, yes, because

1112
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: he's technically he's.

1113
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: Still on the inside the organization. Same thing with Baias,

1114
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: same thing with Cindergard. But Malconfordough has declined the qualifying offer.

1115
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we've mentioned that in a previous

1116
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

1117
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Know if it's official or it's just that whenever it

1118
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: does get officially extended.

1119
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: To him, he is going to say, now, okay, well

1120
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: we know that he's going to say no. Yeah.

1121
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Michael Confordo really really bad start to the year, played horribly. Obviously,

1122
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: his injuries had to play a part of it, because

1123
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: it seemed like as he started to get healthier and

1124
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: healthier as the season went on and even had that

1125
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: hamstring thing right when everyone was going down with it

1126
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: a very big deal.

1127
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: After that, he.

1128
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: Started playing really well. So Conforto was really tough to grade.

1129
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: I personally gonna give Conforto a C minus. I'm going

1130
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: to say he had a bad year. Disappointing year by

1131
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: all means. I know, the end of the year hot,

1132
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: but he just he didn't give us what we needed

1133
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: for this team to truly be successful and hit its

1134
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: like offensive potential.

1135
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: I'm giving Confourtha a D just because of how important

1136
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: his bat turned out.

1137
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: To be to this lineup. He went harsher than I thought.

1138
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm still a high man on confour

1139
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: Tho's like long term value, but if we're grading what

1140
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: happened this season, you have to give him a D.

1141
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 3: He had like fourteen home runs.

1142
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I think he less that.

1143
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: I guess I am being a little bit seeing in

1144
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: rose rose colored glasses here. We're thinking the second half

1145
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: was a strong second half.

1146
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: It was a very strong second half, And I got

1147
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: Tim Ryder from the Apple nym broke broke this down

1148
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 3: to basically two halves of a season. Today andore Tho's

1149
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: first two hundred and sixty four at bats this year,

1150
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: which spanned atrocious April and the return from a ham

1151
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: string injury that clearly was rushed that really was poorly

1152
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: managed by the Mets. He hit one ninety eight with

1153
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: a three twenty two on base which is still just

1154
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: the Milcon four long base percentage just still crazy press

1155
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: of three twenty four slug six homers, twenty doubles, twenty

1156
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: three percent strike gas eighty eight WRC plus. That's pretty

1157
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: bad for two hundred sixty four play appearances. Now, if

1158
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: you take Milk and four, those last two hundred fifteen

1159
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: played appearances basically even sample two seventy two, three seventy two,

1160
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: four to fifty seven, that's an elite slash line. That's

1161
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: better than Michael Four's career slash line. Eight home runs,

1162
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: ten doubles, nineteen and a half strikeout rate one hundred

1163
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: twenty eight WRC plus. This is a guy who, while

1164
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: he was really bad and injury, was mismanaged as a

1165
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: ridiculous amount of potential.

1166
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: But I'm also still.

1167
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: Gonna I do want to give him that bad grade

1168
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: because after last season, what he did for this lineup

1169
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: and his massive breakout in the sixty game sample. We

1170
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: thought he was really giving an MPP candidate, like we've

1171
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: always thought, you just can't hit fourteen home runs and

1172
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: have fifty RBIs and one hundred twenty games. You can't

1173
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: do that. You can't do that all. You can't do

1174
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: that in the team that has playoffaspirations when you are

1175
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: one of the key contributors.

1176
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: To it, middle of the lineup guy, you gotta step up, definitely.

1177
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: But there's also just no obvious reason why he sucked,

1178
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: besides a slow start that was compounded on by a

1179
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: hamstring injury that wasn't fully healed when he returned, Like

1180
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: he didn't even take a rehab assignm I'm pretty sure

1181
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: I number correct her like you can't do that. His

1182
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: strikecouts were down overall, his walks were steady, his max

1183
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: exit of velosity was fine.

1184
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: His bower ray ended up being fined in the full season.

1185
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: Like wherever he plays next year, I'm expecting the classic

1186
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: Mican forth the three hundred two sixty three fifty four

1187
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: fifty and he's going to be a good player for

1188
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: the next ten years. And I think there's a really

1189
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: good chance that he still does that with the Mets

1190
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: and I think that they really should make sure he

1191
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: does do that with the Mets. Take your discount and

1192
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: get a few years. I'm uck and forth it right now.

1193
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: Please, Yeah, I think d's a fair grade. D. He's

1194
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: definitely a fair grade.

1195
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: It is like that. He is my grade right now.

1196
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: But he's a student who I said should come to

1197
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: come to office hours, come talk to us. We really

1198
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: wanted him to be a part of this class in

1199
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 3: the future.

1200
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: He really should be.

1201
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's go back to the pitching side here,

1202
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: probably one of the higher grades I'm assuming here, Marcus Stroman.

1203
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: What a year this guy had. And you called it

1204
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: at the start, you said, an X factor guy who

1205
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: was really gonna step up Marc Strowman, And boy did

1206
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: he do that. He had what thirty four starts on

1207
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: the year. He was the only guy in Major League

1208
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: thirty three. Okay, so he had an unbelievable season, and

1209
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: he like battled some injuries in there too, and still

1210
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: ended up having a thirty three start season. He was

1211
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: going out there every single start, giving us five six

1212
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: innings every single time, seven to two, seven to two.

1213
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: Fantastic season. Couldn't ask more for Marcus Stroman. He did

1214
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: exactly what we needed and then some. And he already

1215
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: that was in the twos. I think right to end

1216
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: the year he was phenomenal.

1217
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: He was awesome. A plus. I feel like there's just

1218
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: no other grade you can give him. I gave him

1219
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: an A plus plus. Here you go even better. He was

1220
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: a team MVP.

1221
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: He was tied for the most starts in baseball with

1222
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: thirty three, and he did also only have one hundred

1223
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: and seventy nine innings, which was outside the top twenty five.

1224
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 3: But a big reason for that is because he pitched

1225
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: in seven double headers. As we broke down a few

1226
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: episodes ago, and he left two stars after just one

1227
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: out that stupid rain game with the Marlins or him

1228
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: and Yesus Aguilar were like, we can't play baseball right now. Yeah,

1229
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: and that game against the Braves where he had the

1230
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: little hip impingement that literally knocked him off his rocker.

1231
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: For about the month, I was nervous about Stroman, but

1232
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: he took a step this year. He really took a

1233
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: bona fide step. He at the highest track gut rady

1234
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: of his career twenty one point six percent. The biggest

1235
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: thing was the proliferation of his off speed stuff, the

1236
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: development of a split change, the further usage of his slyder,

1237
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: and his color.

1238
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: I love Marcus Stroman.

1239
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: I know he's listening right now because he doesn't miss

1240
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: one mention of his name. But he was one of

1241
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: the best players in the mess this year. I would

1242
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: love to pay him a large sum of money for

1243
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: a multiple years.

1244
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I saw a really cool stat about Shtroman this year.

1245
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: He walked more at the plate than he His walk

1246
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: right at the plate was higher than his walk right.

1247
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: On the mountain. That is disgusting.

1248
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: That is pretty cool. That's really It doesn't mean anything,

1249
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: but it's pretty cool.

1250
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: Would you be down to cut the grades at these

1251
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: these big five right now that we did or we

1252
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: did six. Now we did five. It was a perfect five,

1253
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: and then we can move to quick AFL and do

1254
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: more grades next episode.

1255
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's do it. I like that.

1256
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to end it. Yeah,

1257
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: we'll keep it under an hour here for you guys.

1258
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk AFL because we do have some guys out

1259
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: there and me and James should be making a trip

1260
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: out to.

1261
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: The Arizona Fall League in the first week of November.

1262
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: I believe is what we're planning right now.

1263
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: So if you're in Arizona and you're a Mets listener,

1264
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: or you just you just want to say hi, come

1265
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: say it's up. We'll be walking around all the stadiums

1266
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: watching baseball, and especially our Mets guys Brett Bady, Carlos Cortes,

1267
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: just to name a few.

1268
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: Brett Bailey has put his stamp on being a top prospect,

1269
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: then everyone knows I'm a big fangrass guy. Fangress was

1270
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 3: a Hymen on Baby putting him in their top twenty

1271
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: mid season.

1272
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, he's the top ranked third baseman in most prospects

1273
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: like rankings right now.

1274
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: The third basement is a position that has really fallen

1275
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: off in the last few years because most of the

1276
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: best players are playing shortstop now. No, their base has

1277
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: not really become a position that is really highly toad

1278
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: and all of my fantasy baseball players out there, you'll

1279
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: know that the third base tiers it drops off. There's

1280
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: a lot of meat, there's a lot of a lot

1281
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: of guys who are okay, but there's really not a

1282
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: lot of star power there anymore.

1283
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: But Baby is probably I mean him. I was a

1284
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: Hymn Jung and Norman.

1285
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're both a solid step above Nolan Gorman.

1286
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, Baby and Josh Chung are the best two

1287
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: third base prospects in baseball. And Baby's proving at this

1288
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: time in the Fall League facing the best minor league,

1289
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: the best vaccinated minor league pitching has to offer. He's

1290
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: eight for eighteen through his first five games, three doubles,

1291
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: a triple, four walks. He was He reached base in

1292
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: his first seven play appearances with four hits, two walks,

1293
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: and a hit by pitch. This is just fantastic stuff.

1294
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: This is the making of a star right before our eyes.

1295
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: And we've been hot the hymen on Baity all year

1296
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: and really glad to see him doing it on this stage.

1297
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: This dude can mash. He can absolutely mash.

1298
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: And that was a scout report coming out of high

1299
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: school as a twenty five year old.

1300
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: He can mash.

1301
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Is that he can mash, and that was granted against

1302
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: younger kids. But he's now playing against his peers and

1303
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: he's continuing it up. Love to see it from Bret Baity.

1304
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: And this is a weird year for the Fall League.

1305
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: I would say the overall talent in it has taken

1306
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: like a half of a step back, but with that

1307
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: there's probably more older players just because again, players are

1308
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: still playing ketchup with the loss development of twenty twenty,

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00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: so teams want as many opportunities for some of these

1310
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: guys to play against better competition they possibly can. The

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00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: Cardinals sent multiple players from the wildcard roster to the

1312
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 3: Arizona immediately just get in that Fall League. Lars new

1313
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: Bar Dude, who had like significant at bats played down

1314
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: stretching them, and one Yepez who was like a one

1315
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: to fort yu WRC plus guy in Triple A for

1316
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: the whole year in the Memphis Redbirds.

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Speaker 2: But this is what you want to see from bed Baity.

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00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: The first game that the Mets AFL team played, it

1319
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: was against lefty Mackenzie Gore, who the Jerry still out

1320
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: in Mackenzie Gore.

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00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: He's had a very weird two years.

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00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: But he's still regarded as one of the better pitching

1323
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: prospects of baseball. The stuff in the Valassi is still there,

1324
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: and he's a lefty.

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00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: Rerebay is a lefty.

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes those those same side splits can be kind of bad.

1327
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: He got two hits off immediately one went for extra bases.

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00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: Both were over one hundred and six miles an hour.

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00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: The next day he had a triple. I was one

1330
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: ten off the bat. This guy's a monster. He has

1331
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: the Mets fall League team, one of their I don't

1332
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: even know Capadres, one of the teams they're splitting with

1333
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: his Detroit Tigers, so they're playing with Riley Green Spencer Torkasen.

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00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: Also got my boy Joey wenber Wimer out there with

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00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: the Yeah, that's the same team. Yeah, that's the same team.

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00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: That's we're gonna have some fun washing. Joey Wimer follows me,

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00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit him up.

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00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joey Wimber is one of my favorite prospects in baseball.

1339
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: The guys a monster. He could be an outside linebacker,

1340
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: but bred Baydy has the best stats on this team,

1341
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: better slugging and better ops than all those guys, Torgosen,

1342
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: Green Weimer, everybody. I think everyone in baseball is finally

1343
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: starting to realize that this dude is a freak.

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00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very good hitter, very good hitter.

1345
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: And then another good hitter that the Mets out there,

1346
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: Carlos Cortez, who is a South Carolina game Cox so

1347
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: love to see that as an alumni myself.

1348
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: He's mashing.

1349
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carlos Cortez. They shouldn't surprise anyone because he's never

1350
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: not hit. All the guy does is hit. The defense

1351
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: is the issue, and they've stuck him out in left field,

1352
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: which is where you put badfielders to die.

1353
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: And as I've brought up multiple times, like he legitimately

1354
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: will do anything to get into a lineup. He throws

1355
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: left handed and right hand. He could play anywhere if

1356
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: you need him to.

1357
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: And you want to get this guy in the lineup

1358
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 3: because again, he's mashing. His ops is over a thousand early,

1359
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: he has multiple extra base hits, He's put the ball

1360
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: in play over one hundred five miles an hour.

1361
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 2: A few times.

1362
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: And again he's playing left field, and there haven't been

1363
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: reports that he's doing an awful job, so I'll take

1364
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: that he's doing an okay job.

1365
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1366
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: And the Mets, I mean, we're losing the corner old

1367
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: field guys, so he could use a guy in the

1368
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: corneridfield who can hit, Yes, And it looks like Carlos

1369
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: Cortez can definitely hit. He's I'm excited to see him

1370
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: maybe one day soon play for the Orange and Blue.

1371
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: I love seeing game cocks in major leagues, especially on

1372
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: the Mets. And if he's gonna be good and hit

1373
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: even better.

1374
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: I would hammer the over of Carlos Cortez over zero

1375
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: point five play the appearances of the Mets next year.

1376
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, bang that. I think that's a bold prediction,

1377
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: though I like it.

1378
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: He's like twenty five. How long are you to keep him

1379
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: down there?

1380
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: If that's true.

1381
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: If he's crushing the Fall League, he goes in. He

1382
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: was crushed Double A this year. Next year, if he

1383
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 3: crushes triple A, well.

1384
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: That is a good point. Spending an entire year in

1385
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: double A.

1386
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: He'll be the blanket horn. Yeah, he will be the

1387
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: blanket horn.

1388
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: He can play all those positions too, So definitely one.

1389
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: One more prospect I just saw scroll on Twitter that

1390
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: I want to talk about is Wilma Reyes. The Mets

1391
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 3: don't have any short of speak up. We talked about

1392
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 3: that again. Apparently Wilma Race has been thrown into the fire.

1393
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: He had three hits yesterday over one hundred and five

1394
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: Fall League games. We'll take that, and he's a couple

1395
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: of steals. I'm sure, he's flashing leather good bober rays.

1396
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: We'll get a closer look at him when we get

1397
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: to Arizona.

1398
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 2: We'll bring them out.

1399
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: We'll just scout and maybe we'll interview him and turn

1400
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: his career around like we have for some of the

1401
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: guys that we've done. Yeah, you talk to the Mets

1402
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: up guys. Yeah, you just automatically become more patient, better hitting.

1403
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: Everything goes the right way for you.

1404
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: Crickle Yes.

1405
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: So that's our little update on the Arizona Fall League.

1406
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: I know some things to note. They're doing the fifteen

1407
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: second pitch clock, they're doing the robot umpire, and they're

1408
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: doing the two pickoff rules, So some of the numbers there.

1409
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: Are a little bit skewed. Yeah, for sure.

1410
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: Definitely stolen basis if you see guys like stealing every

1411
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: single time they get on basis because pitchers can only pick.

1412
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 2: Them off twice.

1413
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: And also they're on a pitch clock, so was pretty

1414
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: easy for a hither to pick up a cadence and

1415
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: just time a stolen base as long as you you

1416
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: know your chef.

1417
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: And also the robo umps.

1418
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: The hitters in the Fall League, these advanced minor league

1419
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: hiters are really taking advantage of it. The walk rate

1420
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 3: league wide right now, for the Arizona Fall League, I've

1421
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: been a namor with this. Dat Mark doesn't seem to care.

1422
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: Tweeted they got no love. Fifteen percent walk grade for

1423
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: the Arizona Fall League right now, that's fucking nuts.

1424
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: Major league rate is eight percent.

1425
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: The bet only three hitters in baseball last year and

1426
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: the major leagues had a higer than fifteen percent walk right,

1427
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: and it was Gallo Harper, and who was the last guy, soda,

1428
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: Gallo Harper, And so the only guys would higher than

1429
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: fifteen percent walk right, that's not much. I sho. How

1430
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: Tani walked, that's more than Alex Bredman walk the best,

1431
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: the best ares in Bismo an't even walking this much.

1432
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: This is a crazy development for the robo ump movement

1433
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: because if this just doubles the walk rates across baseball,

1434
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's sustainable. Yeah.

1435
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: No, the runs are gonna be yeah out the room

1436
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 2: pictures are gonna be dead.

1437
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you're not getting like any call whatsoever.

1438
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: You're gonna get through three if you're walking every third guy.

1439
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's why I like even then,

1440
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: like the picture control and that's why I like, I'm

1441
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: not as enamored with the status you are, but like

1442
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: minor league pictures plus Robo just feels.

1443
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 2: Like walks out the ass.

1444
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1445
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: I just love seeing play discipline. I think everyone has

1446
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: it right now.

1447
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: Yes, they do, and hopefully we'll get to see that

1448
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: there in the coming weeks. As we wrap up episode

1449
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: number fifty seven of the Mets Up Podcast, we graded

1450
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: some players.

1451
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: We did a quiz.

1452
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: This was a This was an action packed episode and

1453
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: let me tell you, if you're listening to it, go

1454
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: watch the video version. This is gonna be an electric

1455
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: video version because we're throwing a quiz in there. We're

1456
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: throwing a quiz into this. It's different, something new, but

1457
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: we're seeing how many guys the Mets Up boys could

1458
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: find out fifty eight of sixty four.

1459
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: Pretty proud of that.

1460
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: I'll take that.

1461
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: I'll take that all day. Take away from Cindergard was

1462
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: people who took that quiz got no Cindergarten and we

1463
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: did not. That was a layup. Yeah, but you know

1464
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: that's what happens when you turn the bright lights on.

1465
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes you forget guys. I've forgotten some big names in

1466
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: my quizzes in the past before like what I mean,

1467
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: like I forgot like Nelson Cruise existed once on like

1468
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: a home run quiz. It was bad, Well, you forget

1469
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: some names when the lights get turned on, but overall

1470
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: pretty good. Great episode, Episode number fifty seven of the

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Speaker 1: mets Up Podcast. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok at

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Speaker 1: a video version, follow James on Twitter at Jeter had

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Speaker 1: a rating, drop us a review. That's where we're going

1478
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Guys, Thank you for listening, Thank

1479
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: you for watching. That's the end of episode fifty seven

1480
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: of the mess Up Podcast. See you next time.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, peace out, guys, thanks for listening. Did you