WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Top 10 Standouts So Far 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.320 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.240 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.560 Ready for a break? Yeah, And um, so much for that. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:21.080 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:27.240 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.560 You know, sometimes you just have to take over. If 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.400 people drop the ball, you have to pick it up 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.160 and you have to run with And that's really kind 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.639 of what we have to do today. You know, It's 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.920 been fun sitting in the backseat of the limo, but 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.440 now I guess I have to get up there and 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.440 drive drive this car. So I'm Nick Eatman. Obviously, there's Derek, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.760 There's Dave, there's Amber. They decided not to host today, 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:53.199 so we're feel you're usually drop I'm actually gonna be 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.000 the one running in for a touchdown again. Um. Sometimes 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.760 it's just gonna be a quarterback keep you know, usually 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.440 you hand it off. I think I'm just gonna keep 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.920 it here. All right, let's talk. You talked yesterday about 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.679 tight ends over and over and over. Oh wait, oh wait, 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.319 let's ask how everyone's doing d Derek, how are you going, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.760 I'm doing well. This is Derek. This is great. Awesome Dave, 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.120 I'm awesome. I'm so good. Ambry doing well. Yep, anything 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.400 going on out here today today off. Nope, this isn't 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.440 exactly what the field is going to look like all 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.760 day long, which is nice, and everybody's gonna be relaxing, laundry, 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.479 baseball game, baseball game, movie, golf dayers. But we should 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.880 make mention of the fact that coming this Sunday, for 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.399 those of you who will be in the area, there 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.280 will be a blue Light scrimmage. I have that ready 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.800 to go next on my list. There is a blue 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.600 Light scrimmage. It's coming up this Sunday. It'll be at 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.760 four pm here Pacific time. For those of you who 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:50.520 are not in the area, you can watch it live 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.480 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, on the Cowboys Mobile app, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.560 on Connected TV and fills. Back in the Dallas area, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.480 you can watch it on t x A twenty one, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.840 so it'll be available for everyone to be able to 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.240 see that scrimmage on Sunday. And also, we have this 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.000 really cool feature that we have this year on our shows, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:12.639 and today's pole question is I figured you'd like a 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.880 pole question or something. I do that organically. As we 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.760 start talking, I come up with an idea like, oh, 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.240 this would be a great question. I put it in. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.000 I got gimmy one. I got one because we uh 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.240 later today we're gonna have a top ten list. We 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.639 are having it and the top ten players so far 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.399 training camp. It's been probably about ten days I guess 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.920 since we've been out here. Yeah. Good, good time to 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.119 have a top ten list. So we had all the 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.880 writers and show personalities and everybody that come up with 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.640 third ten. Everyone's done it and we well, we'll reveal 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.160 that today individually and then later today we'll have kind 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.960 of the whole collected thing. But maybe that's something for 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.040 the fans who would be we don't haven't been watching obviously, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.680 they're kind of going through, you know, vicariously through us. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:59.280 But I mean we can say who who do you 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.000 think is the open or who do you think is 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:02.600 in the top I guess for so who is it? 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.880 I'll say, who do you think is the top player 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.880 from training camp? Based up on all the reports that 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.720 ye bird, who do you think is the top player 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.560 at training camp this year so far? And we give 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.480 them options. There's only one. We're giving them up. Okay, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.480 give yeah, give them options whatever, Marcas Lawrence, why up there? Answer? 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.800 I would think there's only one answer. Everybody's top pick 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.720 is like you was left off your list and actually 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:32.680 you swoting, you kill the votes. I thought short people 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.000 hung together, but they don't left off the beast. It's okay, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.240 all right. Also, we're gonna talk about tight ends who 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.680 are not on the list. Nobody's ten had any tight 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.160 end on the list at all, which is why we're 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.720 gonna talk about this. Surprise. No, it's not surprise. Well, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.080 you know we we said it yesterday. We said the 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.560 tight end position was kind of struggling mightily, and maybe 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.960 we hoped that talking about it today it would change, Dave, 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.920 Did it change yesterday? No, it's the problem. It's the 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.400 main issue we have at tight end. Like struggling mightily 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.680 feels harsh to me. They're just playing like you would 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.480 probably expect him to play. It's a rookie, a fourth 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.120 year VET who hasn't had a huge role to this 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:18.200 point in his career, a basketball player, and uh, and 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.880 then a second year guy, a second year guy who 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.920 is more of a of a why type of tight end. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.599 He's I mean, none of these guys are mashers. Like 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.760 I said, it was it and I know it's what 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.680 it's like his third day of practice, but it was 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.440 discouraging that. You know, the scouting report on Dalton Schultz 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.920 was that he's coming from Stanford and he's this great blocker. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.240 I haven't seen it particularly. He just, you know, like 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.080 a lot of rookies, he looks like he needs some 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.599 time in a weight room for the NFL level. And 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.960 so I would not classify any of them as terrible. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.800 They just don't look like they're ready to replace one 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.160 of the greatest tight ends of all time, shocker of shockers. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.080 And I was gonna ask what's going down the line here? 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.039 I was gonna ask Gamber, who's the best tight end 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.280 can be? Before you get to that, I just want 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.000 to say something and do what Day said. If I 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.719 was going to narrow it down to one thing that 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.440 I think bothers me the most about this group is 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.159 I don't think they have a really good viable option 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.640 as a as a blocking tight end. Yes, I think 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.520 obviously Jeff Swain is the best of the group, but 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.800 I think he's okay at it. I don't think there's 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.040 anybody that you can put out there. And because this 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.400 team likes to put their tight ends out there and 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.839 run the ball in those kind of situations, I think 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.200 that's a little bit troubling because I just don't think 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:29.880 they got the personnel to do that this year, and 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.440 so they're either going to have to spread everybody out 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.400 and run, or they're gonna have to use some bigger packages. Well, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.400 maybe they bring in an extra offensive lineman. I just 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:38.960 don't think they got a guy right now that can 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.200 be it's a blocking tight end for a game tomorrow. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.760 Who's a user starter, I mean it has to be Swain, 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:50.160 but as of right now, I mean Blake Jarwin. I've 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.839 seen a few things from him, but it's just out 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.320 of the group, just no one really has the whole package, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.360 you know that it's absolutely consistent, or consistent enough to 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:05.719 even scare a few defenses are even worried about that player. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:10.680 I mean, I've been one of the biggest critics of Rico, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.360 but he'll make He's made a lot of touches out here, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.160 but then you watch him and he's so slow with 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.280 everything else. So everybody has like something good but just 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.000 not the full package yet. I think it's a good 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.920 example in the same with mar with Martelli's Bennett way 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.600 back in the day. I mean, you can be very athletic, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.760 but doesn't mean that you're an athletic player on the 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.440 field if you're still trying to figure it out and 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.120 process things, which you know, I thought, you know, that's 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.640 probably the case with Rico. He's probably the most athletic 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.560 of these tight ends, but he's not taking it to 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.680 the field as much because you're always thinking. I mean, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.279 I ask you this. I've heard a lot of people 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.080 I know on this panel, I've heard I've heard other 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.400 people say it that he doesn't like he doesn't look 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.560 like he's smooth. It looks like he's kind of lumbering 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.480 a little bit. But and I saw this with Martellis. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.680 Martellis kind of looked like he lumbered a little bit 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.559 and he ran too, but it wasn't like he's slow, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.000 like he could move down the field. Do you think 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.160 that it's a similar situation with Rico where it's not 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.680 that he's slow, it's not that he's not fast enough. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.720 It's that just because he's so big, it looks a 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.760 little more awkward. It looks a little more lumbering than 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.760 it would otherwise if he was a little smaller. To 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.600 bring up Cole Beasley, we always say Cole Beasley, he's 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.000 not fast, he's quick. Yeah, Rico Gathers is not slow. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.320 He's just not quick. Like it looks like it takes 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.640 him three years just to make cuts and stuff like that. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:31.520 It's like I'm planning, my foot's turning, I'm out, I'm 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.960 facing outside now, I'm looking back at It just looks 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.720 like it takes forever, and like it's not noticeable until 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.440 you see somebody else do it, you know what I mean, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.080 You're like, oh, okay, that's that's different than what we 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.000 just saw from Rico, which is why And I'm not 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.760 trying to discredit the guy too much, but you know, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.160 the place he made in the preseason last year, a 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.520 lot of it was just go downfield and get the 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.840 ball or or even you know, um, I think his 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.360 rookie year was when you know, he caught the ball 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.400 in the flat and did like the summersault. I think 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.920 it was in the last preseason game you're talking about, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.040 like he ran like a two yard route and then 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:04.600 the rest of it was just him running with the 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.720 ball like we haven't seen him. You know, the class, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.400 the great Jason Garrett speech about why option that he 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.520 gave when Jason Witt retired. Not it doesn't look so 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.680 pretty when Rico gathers, does it? Yeah? Well, you know 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.960 last year, well I was asking Brian this question not 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.560 too long ago, and Jason Wayne last year he started 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.160 slowing down and you saw his game slow down. He 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.280 was still able to make those plays and was successful 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.720 at it, but it was slowing down. And to me 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.959 watching Rico sometimes it reminds me of what I was 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.840 starting to see with Jason as far as movement, you know, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.720 And I was asking Brian, am I okay, I wasn't 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.680 here when Jason wyn started his career. Did he looked 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.679 at slow? Did he looked at you know that? So 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.840 you can maybe talk about that. And obviously it's different 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.080 because if you have that kind of movement but you're 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.120 still making plays, then it works. But if not, then 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.080 by yeah. But I mean the big differences is that 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.560 all these guys Jason Witten included, all these guys played 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.880 tight end in college and a lot of them in 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.720 high school as well, and you know that they they're 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.000 still they're not having to process the same things everything 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.040 that you just said, Dave about I got to think 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.200 about this my you know, turn my foot here and 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.000 spend here. I mean, those are things that are probably 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.400 still going through your head. But we're still talking about 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.520 Rico because he's not that far behind the other guys, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.439 because they're not separating. But that also might be a 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.200 part of the problem, right that's probably it's not so 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.800 much him, it's it's kind of like remember in twenty 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.080 fifteen when the Cowboys weren't very good and Thember four 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.520 and seven, and they were one game out of the 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.120 lead in the NFC East because nobody else was really 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.920 beating them, you know, And that's kind of what the 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.640 tight end position feels like. You know, Rico is not 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.960 the best, but he's he's not far from the best. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.680 To go back to Derek's point, I think there's a 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.840 few there's a few things about this team that are 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.240 going to be really interesting because the way it looks 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.200 out here suggests that they're going to have to play 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.360 a completely different style than what we're used to. So 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.760 are they going to do that or are they going 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.080 to find a way to rein it back into what 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.040 they're familiar with, which you know, blitzing Jalen Smith is 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.120 another example is like, it certainly looks like they want 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.079 to do that, will they do it when it matters? 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.200 And it's the same thing with tight end, which it 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.920 certainly looks like you don't have the personnel to play 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.079 tight end the way you're used to right now. Does 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.720 that mean you're going to change the way you do things? 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.040 We're gonna see more ten personnel. They've run a lot 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.960 of empty formations out here. Are you gonna stick with that? 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.839 Or are you gonna do? You know when when roster 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.880 cuts come, are you're gonna add a guy? The name 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.360 Dante Rosario keeps coming into my mind, which he's not 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.079 going to be on this team. I don't even think 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.720 he's in the league anymore. But it's the same type 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:47.240 of thing where they added him nearer to the season 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.160 in twenty thirteen purely to be a blocking guy, Like 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.760 that's what he was there for. I'm positive a tight 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.000 end that fits that description will be available in the 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.840 next month. Do you try to add a guy like 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.440 that to your team so you can run those twelve 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.560 personnel sets and things that we're used to, or are 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.560 you gonna just go off the path and show us 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.520 something we haven't seen before. Yeah, if you look at 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.160 the just the distribution of their personnel packages last season, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.160 you take out the two minute drill where they were 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.440 pretty much exclusively an eleven personnel, twelve personnel is by 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.120 far what they do the most. They love them, and 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.360 now you're having a hard time finding one tight end 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:23.880 that you're going to put on the field at any 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.280 given moment. And I don't think putting a second one 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.480 on there is better than all the wide receiver options. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.400 And again we talked about wide receivers. Not they got 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.280 great wide receivers, but they have a lot of I 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.840 think pretty good wide receivers. They're better than what they 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.120 have a tight end. So I just I just think 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.160 they're gonna have to play differently than they've played. Even 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.600 if they add another guy, the quality of that guy, 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.760 I don't know if if that's gonna be good enough 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.120 for them to think twelve personnel should be our base, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.200 should be what we do most of the time, because 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:51.880 I just don't think that's putting your best players on 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.800 the field. If they go find themselves a capable veteran 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:56.600 tight end. And I don't know that they're gonna do 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.760 this for the I'm just we're just spitballing here. But 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.200 if they did that, I feel fine about Swam or 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.480 Jarwin being one of two guys on the field. I 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.560 don't think I want them both on the field at 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.160 the same time, at least not from what we've seen. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.000 But as you want that as opposed to having Tavon 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.559 on the field me, David Hellman, I would rather have 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.120 I want ten personnel all the time, Okay, I just 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.120 I gotta see it to believe. Wait. Wait, so if 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.920 um you're saying if they add a veteran, yeah, you're 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:28.880 okay with Blake with that vet, I'm just saying I 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.040 don't think they're on the team. I mean, huh, think 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.719 about it. Because Schultz is on the team. I mean 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.319 that's true. He's gonna make They're gonna they're gonna carry three, right, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.480 but but is gonna make it, and who knows what 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.079 they want to do with Rico. He's gonna try to 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.320 figure out how to make they have to carry three, 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.280 and and you could convince me they'll carry four, especially 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.080 if they go at like I don't think they're gonna 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.079 carry these four. But if they were to go get 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.120 a veteran and I think they're like, yeah, we need 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.280 that veteran block and guy, I just think that takes 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.800 somebody's spot between one of those two. Yeah, so actually possible. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.600 Let's assume they bring in a VET and they're gonna 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.320 carry four. Who's the odd man out? If they're gonna 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.920 carry four, they're gonna carry for and they bring in 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.640 a VET who's odd man? Probably Rico? Right well, that 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.600 they would there would that would be too odd man out? 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.800 Right if you're adding another guy to the roster because 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.320 there's four now, am I No, I'm being dumb? Well 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.959 there is eight. Four David I don't doesn't count. Yeah, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.080 he doesn't get so I think you got there. There 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.280 are four main guys right now, it would be Rico. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.240 Rico would be the I think I think he'd be 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.360 the odd guy out. But it also depends on who 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.560 you bring in. Are you bringing in a guy that's 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.319 really just a blocker. If that's the case, I'm not 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.880 sure Jarwin makes it. What's Austin Trailer doing. I thought 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.200 he was. I liked him. I liked him too, he 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.360 and he could and I could ball pretty well. I 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.360 think he might be with the Broncos now I don't know, 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.960 but forget about him. There are guys that fit that 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.800 description that are yeah available. It's it's just the most 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.120 unique position that I can remember going into a training 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.400 camp and not knowing one player who really is a 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.800 lot to make it. Let me, I guess Schultz would be. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.680 But if he keep, if you keep get dumped on 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.840 his ass like that, I mean he won't. He'll be 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.640 fine in a fourth round pick. He'll give him, Give 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.600 him a month and we'll probably Sapper is a fourth 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.920 round pick, and they they've been sticking with him for 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.600 a while. They've obviously sticking with Chaz Green. They stick 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.120 with guys that are drafted like that. They stick with Dak. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.080 They're not I'm gonna throw a name out there and 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.800 you guys are probably gonna shoot it down. But I 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.160 know fans are probably thinking this, Why wouldn't the Cowboys 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.320 look at a guy like Antonio Gates who's still sitting 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.000 out there as a free agent right now because he's 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:33.040 nine thousand years old. I get it, but that's but 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.520 is he better than what you got? Is? The question? 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.120 Is his experience worth having on this team. The only 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:43.160 thing that really from what I've what I've understood with 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.680 that situation, the only thing that hasn't happened is the 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.440 press conference. You know, he retired like three years. He 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:55.800 just didn't tell everybody. I mean, they drafted a young 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.880 tight end and you know he's kind of been the guy, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.600 and of course he got hurt right this year, yeah, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.760 Hunter Henry. But they did not to the point to 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.080 bring back Gates. That I don't know. I mean, if 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.880 I mean, they would be a great two on two 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.520 basketball team, the tied end position would definitely win on 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.960 any other position if he brought Gates in. I roll 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.120 my eyes a lot when the Cowboys say, like, oh, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.560 we don't want to hinder the development of our I 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.760 roll my eyes at that. But't like I ain't worried 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.320 about right now Gates. Well, Gates is a situation where 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.920 I agree though, like I'd rather I'd rather let these 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.080 guys try to get better than bring out up forty 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.320 year old Tancaro is not a scheme fit. And then 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.400 this guy definitely isn't a scheme fit. He just isn't. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.040 I mean, like he's never really been that that complete blocker. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.880 And he remember him saying it one time that they 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.000 we had him on the conference call before the game. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.160 I don't think it was last year. It might have 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.960 been a few years before when they played him and 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.840 he was just like, I'm not like with Jason Witten. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.080 I've been a great pass catcher over the years. Jason 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:56.760 Witten is the most complete tight end. He is a 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.400 complete tied end. That's not what San Diego has asked 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.720 me to do, right, and the Chargers asked me to do. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.480 But the thing about it for the for the tight end, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.120 I know what you're saying, Dave about development, but my 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.880 thing is, are you gonna hinder your team from being 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.960 able to accomplish thing to day? Because the one thing 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.520 I know is I've seen more tight ends get dumped 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.440 out here at training camp than I've been used to 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.520 seeing in the last I don't know how many years, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.400 And that to me is about strength and leverage and 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.200 all those things that I don't know if they get 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.600 better this year, Like you can work on those and 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.600 you can work on strength in the offseason, that ain't 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.880 gonna get better this year, right. I genuinely believe that, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.400 like a Kenny Vaccaro or an Eric Reid would make 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.680 this team better today. I know he's he's probably a 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.320 Hall of Famer if I had to guess, I don't 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.640 think Antonio Gates makes this team that much better, Like 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.040 with where he is in his career, got it, and 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.160 with what they would need him to do, I don't 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.960 buy it. I know that sounds silly, but i'd i'd 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.840 be good. Well, you know he gotta both those guys 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.200 gotta gotta call up in Tennessee after they lost their 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.120 guy Cyprian. I did hear that for the year, they 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:56.880 both got an opportunity to go and try out. So 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.200 we'll see if they actually get picked up there. But 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.600 that makes one more safety off the market because you 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.720 would think Tense's gonna probably sign one of them. They're not. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.000 You might want to send a second round pick. Well, yeah, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.560 they're they're certainly now thinking. I'm sure they're thinking about 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.320 every option. This can't it's coming up every show. It 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:17.120 doesn't matter, when it doesn't matter. When all right, we're 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.359 gonna talk about the top ten after we go to burn. No, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.720 I actually have something to say now. I wanted to say. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.600 I wanted to say real quick, I think obviously not 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.920 having Jason Wayne. It's a huge you know, we miss him. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.640 The Cowboys are gonna miss him for sure. But the 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.199 positive side that I try to look at it is 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.840 that now this forces the Cowboys to try different things 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.600 that they haven't done before, things that you know how 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.359 they usually stick to what they always stick to, you know, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.000 the the Jason Wayne there and you know everything that 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.120 they always do. Now, let's see how we can make 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.639 this work, and let's figure out, okay, the receiver's different places, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.720 and maybe go back to how we were talking last year, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.760 how predictable the Cowboys were being. Maybe they changed things 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.320 up to make it work, and I think they'll be 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.120 fine what they have. I hope you're right. This coaching 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.240 staff has been stubborn before, though he may and not 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.520 have a choice. This year forced them. They've had like 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.359 ten tight end coaches in the last like fifteen years, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.280 and this is the this is the guy. He's got 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:25.959 his work cut out for him because he doesn't have 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.560 that guy to lean on. Jason Witten has been the 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.159 assistant tight ends coach for the last fifteen year, So 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:35.120 you gotta have you're forced to figure things out a differently, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:36.720 all right, let's take a break here, we come back, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:41.440 we're gonna talk about top ten players of Camp. It 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.720 can be hard to find the right resource for learning 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.199 about important financial matters. 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