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Speaker 1: tight ends over and over and over. Oh wait, oh wait,
Speaker 1: let's ask how everyone's doing d Derek, how are you going,
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. This is Derek. This is great. Awesome Dave,
Speaker 1: I'm awesome. I'm so good. Ambry doing well. Yep, anything
Speaker 1: going on out here today today off. Nope, this isn't
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Speaker 1: so it'll be available for everyone to be able to
Speaker 1: see that scrimmage on Sunday. And also, we have this
Speaker 1: really cool feature that we have this year on our shows,
Speaker 1: and today's pole question is I figured you'd like a
Speaker 1: pole question or something. I do that organically. As we
Speaker 1: start talking, I come up with an idea like, oh,
Speaker 1: this would be a great question. I put it in.
Speaker 1: I got gimmy one. I got one because we uh
Speaker 1: later today we're gonna have a top ten list. We
Speaker 1: are having it and the top ten players so far
Speaker 1: training camp. It's been probably about ten days I guess
Speaker 1: since we've been out here. Yeah. Good, good time to
Speaker 1: have a top ten list. So we had all the
Speaker 1: writers and show personalities and everybody that come up with
Speaker 1: third ten. Everyone's done it and we well, we'll reveal
Speaker 1: that today individually and then later today we'll have kind
Speaker 1: of the whole collected thing. But maybe that's something for
Speaker 1: the fans who would be we don't haven't been watching obviously,
Speaker 1: they're kind of going through, you know, vicariously through us.
Speaker 1: But I mean we can say who who do you
Speaker 1: think is the open or who do you think is
Speaker 1: in the top I guess for so who is it?
Speaker 1: I'll say, who do you think is the top player
Speaker 1: from training camp? Based up on all the reports that
Speaker 1: ye bird, who do you think is the top player
Speaker 1: at training camp this year so far? And we give
Speaker 1: them options. There's only one. We're giving them up. Okay,
Speaker 1: give yeah, give them options whatever, Marcas Lawrence, why up there? Answer?
Speaker 1: I would think there's only one answer. Everybody's top pick
Speaker 1: is like you was left off your list and actually
Speaker 1: you swoting, you kill the votes. I thought short people
Speaker 1: hung together, but they don't left off the beast. It's okay,
Speaker 1: all right. Also, we're gonna talk about tight ends who
Speaker 1: are not on the list. Nobody's ten had any tight
Speaker 1: end on the list at all, which is why we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this. Surprise. No, it's not surprise. Well,
Speaker 1: you know we we said it yesterday. We said the
Speaker 1: tight end position was kind of struggling mightily, and maybe
Speaker 1: we hoped that talking about it today it would change, Dave,
Speaker 1: Did it change yesterday? No, it's the problem. It's the
Speaker 1: main issue we have at tight end. Like struggling mightily
Speaker 1: feels harsh to me. They're just playing like you would
Speaker 1: probably expect him to play. It's a rookie, a fourth
Speaker 1: year VET who hasn't had a huge role to this
Speaker 1: point in his career, a basketball player, and uh, and
Speaker 1: then a second year guy, a second year guy who
Speaker 1: is more of a of a why type of tight end.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, none of these guys are mashers. Like
Speaker 1: I said, it was it and I know it's what
Speaker 1: it's like his third day of practice, but it was
Speaker 1: discouraging that. You know, the scouting report on Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: was that he's coming from Stanford and he's this great blocker.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it particularly. He just, you know, like
Speaker 1: a lot of rookies, he looks like he needs some
Speaker 1: time in a weight room for the NFL level. And
Speaker 1: so I would not classify any of them as terrible.
Speaker 1: They just don't look like they're ready to replace one
Speaker 1: of the greatest tight ends of all time, shocker of shockers.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna ask what's going down the line here?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Gamber, who's the best tight end
Speaker 1: can be? Before you get to that, I just want
Speaker 1: to say something and do what Day said. If I
Speaker 1: was going to narrow it down to one thing that
Speaker 1: I think bothers me the most about this group is
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a really good viable option
Speaker 1: as a as a blocking tight end. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: obviously Jeff Swain is the best of the group, but
Speaker 1: I think he's okay at it. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anybody that you can put out there. And because this
Speaker 1: team likes to put their tight ends out there and
Speaker 1: run the ball in those kind of situations, I think
Speaker 1: that's a little bit troubling because I just don't think
Speaker 1: they got the personnel to do that this year, and
Speaker 1: so they're either going to have to spread everybody out
Speaker 1: and run, or they're gonna have to use some bigger packages. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe they bring in an extra offensive lineman. I just
Speaker 1: don't think they got a guy right now that can
Speaker 1: be it's a blocking tight end for a game tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Who's a user starter, I mean it has to be Swain,
Speaker 1: but as of right now, I mean Blake Jarwin. I've
Speaker 1: seen a few things from him, but it's just out
Speaker 1: of the group, just no one really has the whole package,
Speaker 1: you know that it's absolutely consistent, or consistent enough to
Speaker 1: even scare a few defenses are even worried about that player.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been one of the biggest critics of Rico,
Speaker 1: but he'll make He's made a lot of touches out here,
Speaker 1: but then you watch him and he's so slow with
Speaker 1: everything else. So everybody has like something good but just
Speaker 1: not the full package yet. I think it's a good
Speaker 1: example in the same with mar with Martelli's Bennett way
Speaker 1: back in the day. I mean, you can be very athletic,
Speaker 1: but doesn't mean that you're an athletic player on the
Speaker 1: field if you're still trying to figure it out and
Speaker 1: process things, which you know, I thought, you know, that's
Speaker 1: probably the case with Rico. He's probably the most athletic
Speaker 1: of these tight ends, but he's not taking it to
Speaker 1: the field as much because you're always thinking. I mean,
Speaker 1: I ask you this. I've heard a lot of people
Speaker 1: I know on this panel, I've heard I've heard other
Speaker 1: people say it that he doesn't like he doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's smooth. It looks like he's kind of lumbering
Speaker 1: a little bit. But and I saw this with Martellis.
Speaker 1: Martellis kind of looked like he lumbered a little bit
Speaker 1: and he ran too, but it wasn't like he's slow,
Speaker 1: like he could move down the field. Do you think
Speaker 1: that it's a similar situation with Rico where it's not
Speaker 1: that he's slow, it's not that he's not fast enough.
Speaker 1: It's that just because he's so big, it looks a
Speaker 1: little more awkward. It looks a little more lumbering than
Speaker 1: it would otherwise if he was a little smaller. To
Speaker 1: bring up Cole Beasley, we always say Cole Beasley, he's
Speaker 1: not fast, he's quick. Yeah, Rico Gathers is not slow.
Speaker 1: He's just not quick. Like it looks like it takes
Speaker 1: him three years just to make cuts and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm planning, my foot's turning, I'm out, I'm
Speaker 1: facing outside now, I'm looking back at It just looks
Speaker 1: like it takes forever, and like it's not noticeable until
Speaker 1: you see somebody else do it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, okay, that's that's different than what we
Speaker 1: just saw from Rico, which is why And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to discredit the guy too much, but you know,
Speaker 1: the place he made in the preseason last year, a
Speaker 1: lot of it was just go downfield and get the
Speaker 1: ball or or even you know, um, I think his
Speaker 1: rookie year was when you know, he caught the ball
Speaker 1: in the flat and did like the summersault. I think
Speaker 1: it was in the last preseason game you're talking about,
Speaker 1: like he ran like a two yard route and then
Speaker 1: the rest of it was just him running with the
Speaker 1: ball like we haven't seen him. You know, the class,
Speaker 1: the great Jason Garrett speech about why option that he
Speaker 1: gave when Jason Witt retired. Not it doesn't look so
Speaker 1: pretty when Rico gathers, does it? Yeah? Well, you know
Speaker 1: last year, well I was asking Brian this question not
Speaker 1: too long ago, and Jason Wayne last year he started
Speaker 1: slowing down and you saw his game slow down. He
Speaker 1: was still able to make those plays and was successful
Speaker 1: at it, but it was slowing down. And to me
Speaker 1: watching Rico sometimes it reminds me of what I was
Speaker 1: starting to see with Jason as far as movement, you know,
Speaker 1: And I was asking Brian, am I okay, I wasn't
Speaker 1: here when Jason wyn started his career. Did he looked
Speaker 1: at slow? Did he looked at you know that? So
Speaker 1: you can maybe talk about that. And obviously it's different
Speaker 1: because if you have that kind of movement but you're
Speaker 1: still making plays, then it works. But if not, then
Speaker 1: by yeah. But I mean the big differences is that
Speaker 1: all these guys Jason Witten included, all these guys played
Speaker 1: tight end in college and a lot of them in
Speaker 1: high school as well, and you know that they they're
Speaker 1: still they're not having to process the same things everything
Speaker 1: that you just said, Dave about I got to think
Speaker 1: about this my you know, turn my foot here and
Speaker 1: spend here. I mean, those are things that are probably
Speaker 1: still going through your head. But we're still talking about
Speaker 1: Rico because he's not that far behind the other guys,
Speaker 1: because they're not separating. But that also might be a
Speaker 1: part of the problem, right that's probably it's not so
Speaker 1: much him, it's it's kind of like remember in twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen when the Cowboys weren't very good and Thember four
Speaker 1: and seven, and they were one game out of the
Speaker 1: lead in the NFC East because nobody else was really
Speaker 1: beating them, you know, And that's kind of what the
Speaker 1: tight end position feels like. You know, Rico is not
Speaker 1: the best, but he's he's not far from the best.
Speaker 1: To go back to Derek's point, I think there's a
Speaker 1: few there's a few things about this team that are
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting because the way it looks
Speaker 1: out here suggests that they're going to have to play
Speaker 1: a completely different style than what we're used to. So
Speaker 1: are they going to do that or are they going
Speaker 1: to find a way to rein it back into what
Speaker 1: they're familiar with, which you know, blitzing Jalen Smith is
Speaker 1: another example is like, it certainly looks like they want
Speaker 1: to do that, will they do it when it matters?
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with tight end, which it
Speaker 1: certainly looks like you don't have the personnel to play
Speaker 1: tight end the way you're used to right now. Does
Speaker 1: that mean you're going to change the way you do things?
Speaker 1: We're gonna see more ten personnel. They've run a lot
Speaker 1: of empty formations out here. Are you gonna stick with that?
Speaker 1: Or are you gonna do? You know when when roster
Speaker 1: cuts come, are you're gonna add a guy? The name
Speaker 1: Dante Rosario keeps coming into my mind, which he's not
Speaker 1: going to be on this team. I don't even think
Speaker 1: he's in the league anymore. But it's the same type
Speaker 1: of thing where they added him nearer to the season
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen purely to be a blocking guy, Like
Speaker 1: that's what he was there for. I'm positive a tight
Speaker 1: end that fits that description will be available in the
Speaker 1: next month. Do you try to add a guy like
Speaker 1: that to your team so you can run those twelve
Speaker 1: personnel sets and things that we're used to, or are
Speaker 1: you gonna just go off the path and show us
Speaker 1: something we haven't seen before. Yeah, if you look at
Speaker 1: the just the distribution of their personnel packages last season,
Speaker 1: you take out the two minute drill where they were
Speaker 1: pretty much exclusively an eleven personnel, twelve personnel is by
Speaker 1: far what they do the most. They love them, and
Speaker 1: now you're having a hard time finding one tight end
Speaker 1: that you're going to put on the field at any
Speaker 1: given moment. And I don't think putting a second one
Speaker 1: on there is better than all the wide receiver options.
Speaker 1: And again we talked about wide receivers. Not they got
Speaker 1: great wide receivers, but they have a lot of I
Speaker 1: think pretty good wide receivers. They're better than what they
Speaker 1: have a tight end. So I just I just think
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play differently than they've played. Even
Speaker 1: if they add another guy, the quality of that guy,
Speaker 1: I don't know if if that's gonna be good enough
Speaker 1: for them to think twelve personnel should be our base,
Speaker 1: should be what we do most of the time, because
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's putting your best players on
Speaker 1: the field. If they go find themselves a capable veteran
Speaker 1: tight end. And I don't know that they're gonna do
Speaker 1: this for the I'm just we're just spitballing here. But
Speaker 1: if they did that, I feel fine about Swam or
Speaker 1: Jarwin being one of two guys on the field. I
Speaker 1: don't think I want them both on the field at
Speaker 1: the same time, at least not from what we've seen.
Speaker 1: But as you want that as opposed to having Tavon
Speaker 1: on the field me, David Hellman, I would rather have
Speaker 1: I want ten personnel all the time, Okay, I just
Speaker 1: I gotta see it to believe. Wait. Wait, so if
Speaker 1: um you're saying if they add a veteran, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: okay with Blake with that vet, I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: don't think they're on the team. I mean, huh, think
Speaker 1: about it. Because Schultz is on the team. I mean
Speaker 1: that's true. He's gonna make They're gonna they're gonna carry three, right,
Speaker 1: but but is gonna make it, and who knows what
Speaker 1: they want to do with Rico. He's gonna try to
Speaker 1: figure out how to make they have to carry three,
Speaker 1: and and you could convince me they'll carry four, especially
Speaker 1: if they go at like I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: carry these four. But if they were to go get
Speaker 1: a veteran and I think they're like, yeah, we need
Speaker 1: that veteran block and guy, I just think that takes
Speaker 1: somebody's spot between one of those two. Yeah, so actually possible.
Speaker 1: Let's assume they bring in a VET and they're gonna
Speaker 1: carry four. Who's the odd man out? If they're gonna
Speaker 1: carry four, they're gonna carry for and they bring in
Speaker 1: a VET who's odd man? Probably Rico? Right well, that
Speaker 1: they would there would that would be too odd man out?
Speaker 1: Right if you're adding another guy to the roster because
Speaker 1: there's four now, am I No, I'm being dumb? Well
Speaker 1: there is eight. Four David I don't doesn't count. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't get so I think you got there. There
Speaker 1: are four main guys right now, it would be Rico.
Speaker 1: Rico would be the I think I think he'd be
Speaker 1: the odd guy out. But it also depends on who
Speaker 1: you bring in. Are you bringing in a guy that's
Speaker 1: really just a blocker. If that's the case, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure Jarwin makes it. What's Austin Trailer doing. I thought
Speaker 1: he was. I liked him. I liked him too, he
Speaker 1: and he could and I could ball pretty well. I
Speaker 1: think he might be with the Broncos now I don't know,
Speaker 1: but forget about him. There are guys that fit that
Speaker 1: description that are yeah available. It's it's just the most
Speaker 1: unique position that I can remember going into a training
Speaker 1: camp and not knowing one player who really is a
Speaker 1: lot to make it. Let me, I guess Schultz would be.
Speaker 1: But if he keep, if you keep get dumped on
Speaker 1: his ass like that, I mean he won't. He'll be
Speaker 1: fine in a fourth round pick. He'll give him, Give
Speaker 1: him a month and we'll probably Sapper is a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, and they they've been sticking with him for
Speaker 1: a while. They've obviously sticking with Chaz Green. They stick
Speaker 1: with guys that are drafted like that. They stick with Dak.
Speaker 1: They're not I'm gonna throw a name out there and
Speaker 1: you guys are probably gonna shoot it down. But I
Speaker 1: know fans are probably thinking this, Why wouldn't the Cowboys
Speaker 1: look at a guy like Antonio Gates who's still sitting
Speaker 1: out there as a free agent right now because he's
Speaker 1: nine thousand years old. I get it, but that's but
Speaker 1: is he better than what you got? Is? The question?
Speaker 1: Is his experience worth having on this team. The only
Speaker 1: thing that really from what I've what I've understood with
Speaker 1: that situation, the only thing that hasn't happened is the
Speaker 1: press conference. You know, he retired like three years. He
Speaker 1: just didn't tell everybody. I mean, they drafted a young
Speaker 1: tight end and you know he's kind of been the guy,
Speaker 1: and of course he got hurt right this year, yeah,
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. But they did not to the point to
Speaker 1: bring back Gates. That I don't know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I mean, they would be a great two on two
Speaker 1: basketball team, the tied end position would definitely win on
Speaker 1: any other position if he brought Gates in. I roll
Speaker 1: my eyes a lot when the Cowboys say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't want to hinder the development of our I
Speaker 1: roll my eyes at that. But't like I ain't worried
Speaker 1: about right now Gates. Well, Gates is a situation where
Speaker 1: I agree though, like I'd rather I'd rather let these
Speaker 1: guys try to get better than bring out up forty
Speaker 1: year old Tancaro is not a scheme fit. And then
Speaker 1: this guy definitely isn't a scheme fit. He just isn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's never really been that that complete blocker.
Speaker 1: And he remember him saying it one time that they
Speaker 1: we had him on the conference call before the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was last year. It might have
Speaker 1: been a few years before when they played him and
Speaker 1: he was just like, I'm not like with Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: I've been a great pass catcher over the years. Jason
Speaker 1: Witten is the most complete tight end. He is a
Speaker 1: complete tied end. That's not what San Diego has asked
Speaker 1: me to do, right, and the Chargers asked me to do.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it for the for the tight end,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, Dave about development, but my
Speaker 1: thing is, are you gonna hinder your team from being
Speaker 1: able to accomplish thing to day? Because the one thing
Speaker 1: I know is I've seen more tight ends get dumped
Speaker 1: out here at training camp than I've been used to
Speaker 1: seeing in the last I don't know how many years,
Speaker 1: And that to me is about strength and leverage and
Speaker 1: all those things that I don't know if they get
Speaker 1: better this year, Like you can work on those and
Speaker 1: you can work on strength in the offseason, that ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get better this year, right. I genuinely believe that,
Speaker 1: like a Kenny Vaccaro or an Eric Reid would make
Speaker 1: this team better today. I know he's he's probably a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer if I had to guess, I don't
Speaker 1: think Antonio Gates makes this team that much better, Like
Speaker 1: with where he is in his career, got it, and
Speaker 1: with what they would need him to do, I don't
Speaker 1: buy it. I know that sounds silly, but i'd i'd
Speaker 1: be good. Well, you know he gotta both those guys
Speaker 1: gotta gotta call up in Tennessee after they lost their
Speaker 1: guy Cyprian. I did hear that for the year, they
Speaker 1: both got an opportunity to go and try out. So
Speaker 1: we'll see if they actually get picked up there. But
Speaker 1: that makes one more safety off the market because you
Speaker 1: would think Tense's gonna probably sign one of them. They're not.
Speaker 1: You might want to send a second round pick. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're certainly now thinking. I'm sure they're thinking about
Speaker 1: every option. This can't it's coming up every show. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, when it doesn't matter. When all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the top ten after we go to burn. No,
Speaker 1: I actually have something to say now. I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say real quick, I think obviously not
Speaker 1: having Jason Wayne. It's a huge you know, we miss him.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna miss him for sure. But the
Speaker 1: positive side that I try to look at it is
Speaker 1: that now this forces the Cowboys to try different things
Speaker 1: that they haven't done before, things that you know how
Speaker 1: they usually stick to what they always stick to, you know,
Speaker 1: the the Jason Wayne there and you know everything that
Speaker 1: they always do. Now, let's see how we can make
Speaker 1: this work, and let's figure out, okay, the receiver's different places,
Speaker 1: and maybe go back to how we were talking last year,
Speaker 1: how predictable the Cowboys were being. Maybe they changed things
Speaker 1: up to make it work, and I think they'll be
Speaker 1: fine what they have. I hope you're right. This coaching
Speaker 1: staff has been stubborn before, though he may and not
Speaker 1: have a choice. This year forced them. They've had like
Speaker 1: ten tight end coaches in the last like fifteen years,
Speaker 1: and this is the this is the guy. He's got
Speaker 1: his work cut out for him because he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that guy to lean on. Jason Witten has been the
Speaker 1: assistant tight ends coach for the last fifteen year, So
Speaker 1: you gotta have you're forced to figure things out a differently,
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Speaker 1: we talked about top ten players of training camp, and
Speaker 1: do you want to know what the fans are saying
Speaker 1: right now? I would like to hear what the fans
Speaker 1: are saying. It's kind of shocking of the vote goes
Speaker 1: to Zach Martin. Now, Zach is great, yes, but I'm
Speaker 1: a little shocked that as much as because we haven't
Speaker 1: talked a ton about him, just because we just he's
Speaker 1: just so great, right, But fans are like all over
Speaker 1: the fact is Zach Martin the vote goes. It's actually like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let the host do his job here. But
Speaker 1: that plays into the point I want to make during
Speaker 1: this second. All Right, let's go. Okay, you know I've
Speaker 1: been putting out some really cool little highlight clips of players.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, specific players and every one out of sick
Speaker 1: maybe everyone, So maybe it that makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense they've been following. Looks really good. Yeah. So we
Speaker 1: had nine different people, Wait, I'm doing my math right, Nope,
Speaker 1: eight eight different people that have weighed in here on
Speaker 1: our staff and together we will collect all that and
Speaker 1: you'll see it on the website later, the top ten
Speaker 1: players of training camp. But half of that, my math
Speaker 1: is right right here, and so we can just talk
Speaker 1: about the top ten individual lists of kind of what
Speaker 1: we've seen so far. So, Derek, I actually have yours
Speaker 1: in front of in front of me. Would you like
Speaker 1: to say? Do you want me to say him? You
Speaker 1: say him if you've got him all right, Letten, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was number ten. Number ten for me is cheetobey
Speaker 1: O Woozier. Number nine is Michael Gallup, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say it. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the best picks the Cowboys have made
Speaker 1: in that round, and I mean quite a while. He
Speaker 1: is going to be a really good receiver for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys's my opinion, it's yeah, since yeah number eight, Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin number seven, Cole Beasley number six, Travis Frederick number five,
Speaker 1: Execuel Elliott number four, Byron Jones number three, Zach Martin
Speaker 1: number two, Tyron Smith and top dog Tank Lawrence talk
Speaker 1: about Tank real quick number one, because Tank has just
Speaker 1: been awesome. I mean, like, I'll give you I'll give
Speaker 1: you the example I talked about yes but no, I'll
Speaker 1: give you the example I talked about yesterday. I've never
Speaker 1: seen a defensive end decide, especially against as good and
Speaker 1: offensive line as the Cowboys have, that He's gonna go
Speaker 1: against everybody on the offensive line and one one on
Speaker 1: one session and go down the entire line except except
Speaker 1: for Zach. And he may mention afterwards, I know, and
Speaker 1: Nate was talking to him afterwards and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to him, but believe me, the next
Speaker 1: time I'm on the field, I will get to him.
Speaker 1: And so he is. He's not afraid of the challenge.
Speaker 1: He can play any one of those positions. He can
Speaker 1: go one on one with any one of those guys.
Speaker 1: And again we're talking about some of the best offensive
Speaker 1: linemen in the entire NFL, and he went against them
Speaker 1: all except for Zach and did a really really good
Speaker 1: job against him. That you know, that is just a
Speaker 1: microcosm of what he's been out here, ye during training
Speaker 1: camp entire all right, So his his sement, so David Amber,
Speaker 1: his top five was Tank Tyring, Zach Martin, Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: and Zeke Any surprises or anything that you want to
Speaker 1: talk about. His list, the order is different, but we
Speaker 1: have the same top five. I mean, like the same
Speaker 1: five players. Well let's uh, do you have it our?
Speaker 1: Why does it scare you? Yeah? Get out of here,
Speaker 1: you have yours? Yeah, I got all right. Dave Helmon
Speaker 1: at ten, I had Michael Gallup. I know he's caught
Speaker 1: a lot of eyes, but he's had some inconsistencies as well.
Speaker 1: At nine, I had Rod Smith having a sneaky good camp.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams at eight. He's just been very consistently impressive
Speaker 1: for a rookie. Terrence Williams. Uh for at seven, for
Speaker 1: a guy coming off an injury who has loved the receivers,
Speaker 1: he's mixed slow. Not all of them. Well, you got
Speaker 1: a lot of them in there. That's only the second
Speaker 1: one and those are the only teams done. Terrence Williams
Speaker 1: mixing into the second team. He's he's made some fantastic
Speaker 1: catches with his hands. No less, I think he's having
Speaker 1: a nice camp. Cheeto Wougier at six, Zack Martin at five,
Speaker 1: which honestly, I'm looking at it again and that feels
Speaker 1: super low. He's just been dominant. But then I have
Speaker 1: a hard time moving any of my other guys out
Speaker 1: of their spots because Zeke at four has just been
Speaker 1: phenomenal on and off the field. He's been very impressive.
Speaker 1: Tank at three. I agree with everything Derek just said.
Speaker 1: Tiring at two, and then I put Byron Jones at
Speaker 1: one simply because he is having a great camp at
Speaker 1: a new position, and I think like that carries extra
Speaker 1: weight for me. He's doing my job in a new
Speaker 1: scheme and he's killing it. But here's where i'd ask
Speaker 1: you a question. You really think that Terrence has been
Speaker 1: better than Cole? Here's the thing I Cole Beasley not
Speaker 1: being on my list is an oversight. But Nick Nick
Speaker 1: was like, you sure you don't want to change that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, No, it's fine
Speaker 1: because to your point, it's easy to flash out here
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. It just is, you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about all the time, like, yeah, you beat a
Speaker 1: defender inside on a slant one on one, like you
Speaker 1: should do that. It's easy, And so I try not
Speaker 1: to give extra weight to the receivers just because it's
Speaker 1: so much easier for them to But when you compare
Speaker 1: and give the Terrence though, I mean, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: He's a receiver as well. I always say I say
Speaker 1: this to Nick all the time. I gad on, I
Speaker 1: grate on a curve, like people don't want Terrence on
Speaker 1: this team, and honestly, I don't think he would be
Speaker 1: on this team if his contract wasn't so unfavorable for
Speaker 1: the team. So that I sent I specifically said, don't
Speaker 1: worry about expectations like that, but but about it's easy
Speaker 1: out here, because before fans freak out and go, oh,
Speaker 1: my guard defense is bad, it's easy. It's easy because
Speaker 1: why because and all right, eleven on eleven is one thing,
Speaker 1: but in like in the one v ones and the
Speaker 1: two v two is like you've got all the the
Speaker 1: you got the whole field to beat your man, and
Speaker 1: there's no pass rush and you can sit in your
Speaker 1: head in your head and say like, okay, pass rush
Speaker 1: is coming. There's an internal clock. But like yesterday was
Speaker 1: a great example in seven on seven down near the
Speaker 1: goal line, Dak just kind of fiddled around in the
Speaker 1: backfield for about twelve seconds before somebody finally broke open
Speaker 1: and he threw a touchdown pass. And I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: Like what's the dB supposed to do with no pass
Speaker 1: rush in that situation? Like you should win every single time.
Speaker 1: And Cole Beasley's skill set in particular suits him to
Speaker 1: winning those types of battles because again, he's very quick,
Speaker 1: he runs very short routes that are hard to defend.
Speaker 1: He can present himself open within five or six yards
Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. I'm not trying to knock him,
Speaker 1: but he should look good in this setting in my opinion.
Speaker 1: And I mean I should have put him in my
Speaker 1: top ten, but I just didn't. And it's fine, that's cool,
Speaker 1: all right, So Amber, do you have your ten in
Speaker 1: front of you? I do all right ten Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: And I was surprised to me, he's been looking really
Speaker 1: good and his instincts are getting so much better, and
Speaker 1: he looks a lot closer to being at the level
Speaker 1: of Sean Lee. Obviously health wise that's a different story
Speaker 1: and all that, but I love the progress is made
Speaker 1: and I'm really really excited for excited for him. Nine Tavern, Austin.
Speaker 1: He's just impressive. Everyone knows that. And he's just quick
Speaker 1: and just tricks the eyes and let's figure out tricks
Speaker 1: the eyes a Michael Gallup. He didn't start off very consistent,
Speaker 1: but he's starting to get, you know, more consistent. And
Speaker 1: the thing that I like about him is how much
Speaker 1: he cares and every time he makes a mistake, how
Speaker 1: upset he seems. And that's something that all these guys
Speaker 1: do because of how competitive men are. But the fact
Speaker 1: that he gets up and tries again even harder. I
Speaker 1: really like that about him. Rod Smith seven. Rod, he's
Speaker 1: been killing it. I mean he's the guy that we yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the guy that we don't really pay attention that
Speaker 1: much just because Zeke takes the spotlight. But then he's
Speaker 1: made enough things for you to pay attention to him.
Speaker 1: He's been all over the place. He's great at catching
Speaker 1: the ball, running, He's great. Six. Connor Williams just another
Speaker 1: one that's good. Five cheetahbet Woozia. He's being impressive as well.
Speaker 1: Sack for Tyna Smith, three, two Byron Jones, and one
Speaker 1: Cold Beasley. Cold Beasley, he's my number one. You've missed
Speaker 1: the whole camp basis because because here's why, wow, Cole
Speaker 1: what go ahead? But finished that point? And then I
Speaker 1: notice he's this one Cole Um. He's so quick and
Speaker 1: we all know that, and how impressive he has been
Speaker 1: and how he makes these plays. And although this guy
Speaker 1: right here, Dave says, well, you're supposed to shine at
Speaker 1: this situation, still he to me, he has been one
Speaker 1: of the most consistent guys out here at camp. So
Speaker 1: he's been making all of that consistently, and he just
Speaker 1: makes you look at him. I think we take it
Speaker 1: for granted a little bit, I really do. I think
Speaker 1: we take him for granted a little bit. He's been great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So I thought I saw something differently, but
Speaker 1: um that Dave had. He had Byron Jones one, but
Speaker 1: you had to Marcus Lawrence three, and Amber doesn't have
Speaker 1: him on her list, and you have Cole Beasley number one,
Speaker 1: and Dave doesn't have on that at all. So that
Speaker 1: just goes here because we know, how was Tank last year.
Speaker 1: He's amazing, He's amazing, but he's he doing any different
Speaker 1: than what I expected him to do this year. I know,
Speaker 1: I know it's not about expectations, but it's just like
Speaker 1: that Martin didn't either. You know, here's well and it's
Speaker 1: it's tough man, and honestly, like I know, I have
Speaker 1: him five. Honestly, Zachary Martin should probably be number one
Speaker 1: because I probably, like I have Tyron Smith too. He's
Speaker 1: gotten beat a couple of times Byron Jones. I still
Speaker 1: have not seen Zach Martin is just out of here,
Speaker 1: mauling everything that moves. Like you're right about that, He's
Speaker 1: killing people and looking great doing it no remorse. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but it's hard. It's harder to notice those types of things,
Speaker 1: especially in the eleven on eleven because again you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, well, I don't have the advantage of replay
Speaker 1: while I'm out here and I'm usually looking at it
Speaker 1: through my phone. Next thing, you know, Michael Gallup goes
Speaker 1: up for a pass and meanwhile, you didn't notice that
Speaker 1: Zach just bulldozed two people. You know, it's well, and
Speaker 1: another thing, it's like with those guys they've been so
Speaker 1: good for so many years already. Like Zach, it's just
Speaker 1: like a given that you're like, Okay, he knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing. You don't pay that much attention to him anymore.
Speaker 1: And that's part that's why I put Byron number one,
Speaker 1: is he has not been the most consistently great player
Speaker 1: out here, but he is having a great camp at
Speaker 1: a new position, and the Cowboys need him to for
Speaker 1: that matter, and he's competing. That's what I love the
Speaker 1: most about Byron Jones. Like he's gotten beat a couple
Speaker 1: of times, but he's still he comes back the next play,
Speaker 1: He'll make a play like he's just competing, And that's
Speaker 1: what you need from your cornerback. Cornerbacks aren't gonna be perfect,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get beat times, even more so than Cheeto,
Speaker 1: and Cheeto's having a good camp two. But when when
Speaker 1: Byron does a REP, I'm kind of assuming he's gonna
Speaker 1: win it more often than not because his track record
Speaker 1: has been so good. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: in my top ten um quickly number ten. Connor Williams nine,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley eight, Dak seven, Ezekiel Elliott six, Byron Jones five,
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin four, Tyron Smith three, DeMarcus Lawrence two, Zack
Speaker 1: Martin one. Cheetoh wow, Cheeto number one. I think he's
Speaker 1: been outstanding and maybe to the point of worrying about
Speaker 1: the receivers and the starters and getting open and all that.
Speaker 1: I think every time I look up, he's knocking the
Speaker 1: ball down, he's running with someone he's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he gets beat something. I mean, but that's what you expect,
Speaker 1: especially out in practice. But for the most part, I
Speaker 1: think he has been really, really good. He's had a
Speaker 1: good week of practice this week. That might be what's
Speaker 1: on my mind. More than that. I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 1: I think Zach Martin he's just been solid, consistent. He
Speaker 1: could put him. I put him number two, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if I haven't seen him really get beat
Speaker 1: so um and you know what I mean, the guy
Speaker 1: that that didn't make anyone, he made a couple. He
Speaker 1: made your list, Derek, and he made Rob Phillips's list.
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. You can kind of say the same thing
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, he's so so, so steady, and it's
Speaker 1: not like he's not doing well, but um, that's that's mine.
Speaker 1: I Colbasley, you know, kind of far down there a
Speaker 1: little bit on listen, and I did not put Gallop
Speaker 1: on mine. I want to point something out, and that
Speaker 1: pretty bad to day practice one day who gallop gallop? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's that's he. He has stayed up there now right.
Speaker 1: And I'll quantify for you or qualify for you. Why
Speaker 1: I why I think what I think of Michael Gallop.
Speaker 1: And I was telling Davis yesterday, if you watch how
Speaker 1: he runs his routes, what I love about him is
Speaker 1: he always gets separation. And what if we said about
Speaker 1: these receivers for the last few years, like they can't
Speaker 1: get away from defenders. There's no separation nowhere for the
Speaker 1: quarterback to get a clean throw to a receiver that's
Speaker 1: really open. And you watch him and what he does
Speaker 1: is watch how he cuts hot comes out of his brakes.
Speaker 1: He explodes out of his brakes, and when he does that,
Speaker 1: it creates immediate separation. So if the quarterback is always
Speaker 1: in tune with him on getting him coming out of
Speaker 1: his brakes, you're gonna always have a receiver. That's all.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say always, but a lot of the time
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a receiver that's open and actually has
Speaker 1: some separation, be able to make a catch and then
Speaker 1: do something with the ball. Shameless plug. But if you
Speaker 1: go on my Twitter timeline from yesterday, there's a video
Speaker 1: of Michael Gallup and it might have been against Byron,
Speaker 1: so Byron's not winning everything out here, but Gallup he
Speaker 1: stutter stepped and broke outside like he was going up
Speaker 1: the field, and like in the blink of an eye
Speaker 1: he had stutter stepped again and cut inside on a slam.
Speaker 1: Remember that, And even like even in the NFL where
Speaker 1: everybody's got great footwork, I was like, Wow, that was
Speaker 1: really impressive footwork, and like it kind of gives you
Speaker 1: a snapshot of what people are talking about when they
Speaker 1: talk about running routes to get yourself open, Like it's
Speaker 1: not I mean, Dez Bryan can just kind of cut
Speaker 1: inside and use his body like Michael Gallup doesn't have
Speaker 1: that size, and you see the footwork translates that. It's
Speaker 1: really impressive and he does it all the time. Like
Speaker 1: his route running is very impressive, especially for a rookie.
Speaker 1: It's the thing that makes Antonio Brown, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the best receiver is so reckless. No, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's Antonio Brown. I'm saying that's quality. Is what makes
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown great is that he's not particularly big, he's
Speaker 1: not particularly fast, but he has such great footwork and
Speaker 1: such great route running that even when you try to
Speaker 1: put two defenders on him, he still has a way
Speaker 1: of getting open because he knows how to run around
Speaker 1: to where before you know it. Both those guys he's
Speaker 1: gotten some separation from him. I love that quality about
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop, and if he keeps developing that, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a phenomenal player for the Cowboys in future.
Speaker 1: I want to look at this list again for Amberg.
Speaker 1: You've got three players. The Cowboys are really counting on
Speaker 1: three players to do some things this year, one of
Speaker 1: them being Dak Prescott, another one being Zeke, and the
Speaker 1: other one being d Law. Neither of those three a
Speaker 1: major list right now? That's okay? Are you kind of
Speaker 1: more into the Dave like I expect that from you,
Speaker 1: that you're not really surprising me any or any of
Speaker 1: these guys not doing something that you're like w I
Speaker 1: went more toward with the route of who has really
Speaker 1: caught my eye? You know, um, Zeke obviously he's great
Speaker 1: and he'll make those plays and stuff, but it's he
Speaker 1: hasn't really been that one that my eyes just draws
Speaker 1: to him and Dad, he'll make those through. He's been better,
Speaker 1: for sure than last year, but again, nothing that just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Dak Prescott this year. Wow. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know that's interesting, and Nick correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I think Dak was the only one that
Speaker 1: was on yours of this panel. Correct, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the other three of us didn't have him one. And
Speaker 1: that to me, yeah, I don't know if I'd call
Speaker 1: it shocking because but I will say this, in years
Speaker 1: when Romo was out here, he would have made a
Speaker 1: top ten list. Does that? Does that scare you? Does
Speaker 1: that concern you that Dak isn't making those plays that
Speaker 1: actually make you say, wow, that was a really great play.
Speaker 1: Not really because of what we've saw. What we saw
Speaker 1: from him even as a rookie. He wasn't very good
Speaker 1: as rookie year, and he was really good in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Another thing about about Zeke, he's not gonna look that
Speaker 1: that great out here. You know, he hand him the
Speaker 1: ball in a practice, he runs to the side, and
Speaker 1: a safety and a linebacker come and they get right
Speaker 1: up on him and they touch him, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I got you down, and we all know that it's
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot more than that. You know, you
Speaker 1: might get him on the twenty, but the ball got
Speaker 1: dragged down to the twelve. And that's what the beast
Speaker 1: mode feed me. Zeke, all that kind of stuff, that's
Speaker 1: what comes into play. Same with these offensive linemen. You know,
Speaker 1: these defensive guys that are kind of smaller, they fly
Speaker 1: around the ball and they get into gaps and they're like,
Speaker 1: I got it. You know when reality, Zak Martin would
Speaker 1: have probably driven the guy five yards down the field.
Speaker 1: But so you don't really get to see all this
Speaker 1: stuff to that point. It's hard to tell a little
Speaker 1: bit just from a physical nature of these guys. That's
Speaker 1: why receivers in corners always kind of get higher on
Speaker 1: the list because you see, did he catch it? Did
Speaker 1: he not eat it? You're absolutely right, but man Zeke
Speaker 1: and Rod both like you can see it in their
Speaker 1: footwork and you can see it like again, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is just my subjective judgment, but like you can
Speaker 1: just see, like okay, real cool Davier Woods like you're
Speaker 1: you're there, but you're not there like Zeke would be gone.
Speaker 1: Oh and just not to mention the sheer volume of
Speaker 1: stuff that he's doing, Like, I mean he's he's lining
Speaker 1: up out wide, he's catching the ball out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: they're doing screens. Uh, he's he's been very very impressive.
Speaker 1: Um And I mean Dad hasn't been bad by any stretch.
Speaker 1: He just he's not lightening the world on fire. I
Speaker 1: don't know. This isn't Yeah, he's a he's a gamer.
Speaker 1: Half of it. It's just half of the of the list.
Speaker 1: These four and there's also uh Rob Brian McKee, Lindsay
Speaker 1: also have some so it'll you'll see some different names
Speaker 1: um on the list as well some of the guys
Speaker 1: that they voted for, so in different orders. All right,
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Speaker 1: Back to the break, You guys know we are back right.
Speaker 1: I should have just let it go and no, you
Speaker 1: did not need to do that. I always think the
Speaker 1: break host is just so off today. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on, but whatever, there's something, there's something to
Speaker 1: be said for that. And you won't ask me to
Speaker 1: do it again, but you, oh, I will definitely ask
Speaker 1: you to do. You guys both to drop the ball
Speaker 1: and decided not to do. You guys needed a day off.
Speaker 1: I guess as well. I thought it was just a
Speaker 1: player's day off. I guess it was. That's okay though, Um,
Speaker 1: actually I think me and Amber been killing it on
Speaker 1: this show, so we're doing your job better than you're
Speaker 1: doing Oursakay, all right, A couple of guys that that
Speaker 1: did not really want to talk about drop and Dorance Armstrong.
Speaker 1: Dorance Armstrong will make some other people's list, not on
Speaker 1: this panel, right here on the top ten. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is somebody that is very shocking. Just somebody watches the tape,
Speaker 1: the guy, the guy, the guy who actually the guy
Speaker 1: who's most qualified, the guy who actually watches every play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not just the one shocker. So anyways, what are we
Speaker 1: not top ten lists that we all chimed in on
Speaker 1: last night, and he's supposed to go on the website
Speaker 1: today and Nick is just deciding to reveal everything today
Speaker 1: here on the show. That's not exactly it. Everybody who
Speaker 1: listens to the shows, I know, I know, but well
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about rookies because that's that's what rookies
Speaker 1: and players that aren't on this list, guys that didn't
Speaker 1: make any um anybody's mentioned. But let's talk about Dorn's Armstrong.
Speaker 1: He's he's a young guys. He flashing a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've seen a couple flash yesterday. I'm about to start
Speaker 1: watching him more now that Brian thinks he's the top
Speaker 1: ten worthy guy. He has. He has had moments, none
Speaker 1: more so than yesterday. What do you do? He whooped
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins in the compete period, just that I like
Speaker 1: that posterized him and he's I mean, um, you know,
Speaker 1: you go back to I'm not trying to dog my guy, Taco,
Speaker 1: but like last year as a rookie, Taco basically looked
Speaker 1: like he didn't belong. I mean, put it. That's a
Speaker 1: little harsh, but fair. I think, uh, the Doran's Armstrong
Speaker 1: doesn't look like that. He looks like he belongs. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: The only thing I wish they'd give him a new
Speaker 1: number because you know, I know they will, but like
Speaker 1: you know, he's not you know, he's not keeping seventy four.
Speaker 1: And so just in my brain when I see seventy four,
Speaker 1: I just associate it with a scrub basically, because they
Speaker 1: only give that number to people they're gonna cut um,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make it to the season. Usually, if
Speaker 1: you're not, you're not making it to the season, or
Speaker 1: you're changing numbers when the season gets here. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that's not his fault. Though he is, he's looked nice.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him in my top ten. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: need to go talk to Brian. He's probably got the
Speaker 1: same moments, about the same level as Taco, but Taco
Speaker 1: is in his second year. Yeah, so yeah, he has
Speaker 1: done about as much as Taco, and he's a rookie
Speaker 1: fourth round pick and tacos in his second year. Either
Speaker 1: that you want more from Taco at this point, that
Speaker 1: you expect more from time. That is the that's I mean,
Speaker 1: until he proves otherwise. That's the storyline around Taco. And
Speaker 1: I want the best for him and I believe in him,
Speaker 1: but he's got to show more. So we're at that
Speaker 1: point where it's like the NTA tournament comes out. You know,
Speaker 1: you see the field, and now it's like who didn't
Speaker 1: make it? Like where are the snubs here? There are
Speaker 1: some names out here that haven't been mentioned that I
Speaker 1: think are gonna freak out some fans. You've got the
Speaker 1: fourth round pick that was mentioned. It's kind of why
Speaker 1: I brought him up obviously making this listen as a
Speaker 1: tie at the bottom probably will be your third and
Speaker 1: second round pick, but you don't see the first round
Speaker 1: pick at all. Layton Vanderesh has not really done enough
Speaker 1: to really catch anyone's eye. Is that alarming? Is that surprising?
Speaker 1: There's no position on the field that it's harder to
Speaker 1: make an impact like get noticed than the linebacker. And
Speaker 1: he's at his moments. We talked about him yesterday. He's
Speaker 1: especially in pass coverage. He's broken up some balls, he
Speaker 1: helped contribute to an interception. He absolutely hasn't looked bad
Speaker 1: by any stretch. But like the whole job of a
Speaker 1: like you can't do your job as a linebacker in
Speaker 1: this setting, so it doesn't bother me at all. Another
Speaker 1: player the fans are definitely looking at an Amber Will
Speaker 1: can attest to this they want to see Alan Hearns.
Speaker 1: You said, you said had a video out there the
Speaker 1: other day. You put some some plays out there and
Speaker 1: fans are all fifty seven thousand views. They want to
Speaker 1: see Alan Hearns. Like, what is this guy gonna do?
Speaker 1: If we're not gonna have this, then who's gonna be
Speaker 1: the starter? What's he gonna do? And I haven't really
Speaker 1: seen him play before, but he's been okay. I guess
Speaker 1: he's dealing with a leg tightness heighten us. I think
Speaker 1: they're just being careful with him. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's been good. He's had some he's
Speaker 1: displayed some nice hands at times. Uh, he's definitely I
Speaker 1: mean he's not a body catcher. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: he can go up here, he can extend. He's made
Speaker 1: some nice snags. I nothing that wows me. Hey, can
Speaker 1: I back you up to Layton Vanderessh. There was a
Speaker 1: question I want to ask you guys about that. Is
Speaker 1: it concerning to you at all that your first round
Speaker 1: pick hasn't managed to work primarily with the first team
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee being off the field. No, And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why it did concern me and then somebody.
Speaker 1: I gotta give props to Clarence Hill because he's the
Speaker 1: first person that I saw it from, and then I
Speaker 1: went and asked around about it myself. He they like
Speaker 1: him working with the second team so he can make
Speaker 1: the calls. Ah, okay, that's a good that's a good perspective.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. He makes the calls at
Speaker 1: Mike rather than being your first team will and not
Speaker 1: making the calls. Right, he will learn a lot more
Speaker 1: in his camp doing that. That's what they That's what
Speaker 1: I heard, And so he's getting experienced making the calls
Speaker 1: and leading the huddle. Um and And it's weird because
Speaker 1: they've been rotating these guys so much like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: Jalen and Joe Thomas. Sometimes it's Jalen and vander Esh.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's Vanderesh and Joe Thomas. Sometimes it's vander Esh
Speaker 1: and who am I Damian Will. It's very nebulous, and
Speaker 1: I think I kind of like the receivers. They're just like,
Speaker 1: let's kind of mix it around. And uh, no, short
Speaker 1: answer doesn't bother me much Like you know, people want
Speaker 1: to know about Bo Scarbrough. He doesn't get a lot
Speaker 1: of opportunities here Leyton vander Esch is getting plenty of snaps,
Speaker 1: but he's not getting a lot of opportunities just again,
Speaker 1: because he's a linebacker. In the preseason games, I think
Speaker 1: we'll get a better idea of what he's all about.
Speaker 1: I think that, um, you know, lists like this, the
Speaker 1: fans are just wanted to see players and on here
Speaker 1: that that they're kind of worried about positions they're worried about,
Speaker 1: like linebacker, like safety. You know, I'm sure that that
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and Jeff Heath, um. You know that you'd
Speaker 1: like to hear reports that they're doing good things, and
Speaker 1: they are. They're being solid, they're not really standing out.
Speaker 1: How about Dan Bailey had had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a rough day yesterday, a couple of kicks would have
Speaker 1: had a different answer before Yesterday's right, he's been playing.
Speaker 1: He had been a couple of missus in practice, and
Speaker 1: you know that's unfortunately, that's kind of where we are
Speaker 1: with him, because you're just like now watching practice and
Speaker 1: charting kicks and you're like, oh, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna be during a game. He misses a kick
Speaker 1: early in the season, any kick that's not like over
Speaker 1: fifty two yards and you're gonna be like, oh man,
Speaker 1: what's the problem, who's out there, what's gonna happen? First
Speaker 1: time miss is a kick, Like in almost any facet
Speaker 1: of life, eighty six percent is great, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, not kicking like rocket science and field goal kicking,
Speaker 1: eighty six is a terrible percentage. Yeah, so that sucks urgins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't if you If you catch eighty six percent
Speaker 1: of your targets or complete eighty six percent of your passes,
Speaker 1: you're going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, eighty six
Speaker 1: percent of your kicks you suck handoffs? Yeah, that too.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think he admits I believe he
Speaker 1: had missed one kick in camp until yesterday, and they
Speaker 1: weren't even long kicks. They were like thirty eight yard kicks.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not a total of three kicks he
Speaker 1: has miss which that's not terrible considering he probably kicks
Speaker 1: eight field goals per day, but two in a day
Speaker 1: from a manageable distance. Just I'm not worried yet, but
Speaker 1: I just you're kind of like, ah, that's just stubbing
Speaker 1: you put in the back of your mind, like Okay,
Speaker 1: let's keep an eye on this to see if this
Speaker 1: becomes a trend. I felt like in case I didn't
Speaker 1: make myself clear, just to go again, go back to
Speaker 1: Laton Vanderesh. Shawn Lee, despite not practicing, still makes the
Speaker 1: calls for the first team defense just he signals them
Speaker 1: in from the sideline, which is why Laden Vanderesh makes
Speaker 1: the calls for the second team. So there you go.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Randy Gregory and Randy
Speaker 1: what do we expect from him? And the next I
Speaker 1: would say week, which also which covers a game, first
Speaker 1: game in San Francisco, the same not be playing in
Speaker 1: that game, make the trip. I don't see why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe to just kind of get
Speaker 1: him more acclimated with how things are worked out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's keep him with you. He's gonna well, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna the classic like he's gonna be out with the
Speaker 1: athletic trainers like three hours before kid I get worked out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and a lot of those guys will do
Speaker 1: that that might not play very much. They'll get a
Speaker 1: workout before the game. So he's not gonna do football
Speaker 1: related things until we get back from San Francisco. But
Speaker 1: I do think he will practice in pads here in Oxnard.
Speaker 1: That's my prediction in which that that will probably mean.
Speaker 1: I think you said it yesterday and I Arizona week three.
Speaker 1: That sounds right to me. If he's not gonna practice
Speaker 1: this week, it's hard to think that he's going to
Speaker 1: be able to practice and then play for the week
Speaker 1: two game, right because there's a lot of traveling going
Speaker 1: on going back that week. So that's the schedule starts
Speaker 1: to get wonky after San Francisco because you're travel days
Speaker 1: and preseason games and blah blah blah. So Sunday we've
Speaker 1: got the Blue White scrimmage. Scrimmage, that's what they're calling it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: should be very and all of you guys I think him,
Speaker 1: are you on it? Are you on that scrimm? Okay?
Speaker 1: I know Dave and Nicker on the scrimmage, and yes,
Speaker 1: a couple other guys Bryan I know'll be on the
Speaker 1: scrimmage on the on the air said on the air,
Speaker 1: it's on the air, fritage scrimmage on the air. It
Speaker 1: sound like take Yeah, I'm not taking any step. I
Speaker 1: would actually like to see that. I would not position
Speaker 1: do you think. I don't know, I would not get killed. None,
Speaker 1: would I not get killed. I didn't hold wide receiver.
Speaker 1: If as long as the ball's not going to me,
Speaker 1: If all I mean, you get open, just shove the
Speaker 1: defensive back is probably gonna shove you to the ground
Speaker 1: right off the line of scrimmage. You're not getting beyond that.
Speaker 1: Did I die? That's what you said, right? Like? I
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Cheeto shoved me to the ground. Air.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about how everyone said Dalton Schultz got killed
Speaker 1: out there, right, That's what we're talking. They might just
Speaker 1: like when they shove you to the ground, there might
Speaker 1: be a little emphasis on it. And just I think,
Speaker 1: who thing, I could just hold it. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, LP is going to be bringing it back there,
Speaker 1: but I think I can get it. I've actually done
Speaker 1: that before. I would rather that seems hard to me.
Speaker 1: It was hard. It actually is hard. I did. We
Speaker 1: did a segment back with Dia in the Alamo, don't
Speaker 1: I'm all the time ago, and it is not It
Speaker 1: is not easy. I would rather try I'm not going
Speaker 1: to try to run a route that's ridiculous, but I
Speaker 1: would rather just try to fend off a corner without
Speaker 1: getting my ass kicked then catching hold. I'm like, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: because that doesn't affect the play and just look elsewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see you exactly and not not. I'm okay,
Speaker 1: he throws to Beasley all the time. Let's not act
Speaker 1: like it's this huge hype discrepancy. You just put Beasley
Speaker 1: on your list, not just catching and holding a kick.
Speaker 1: But like you know, Mark Quez White is screaming around
Speaker 1: the edge trying to block it, Like, no, thank you,
Speaker 1: that's true. Amber, where you going to play out there?
Speaker 1: I was about to say you had some soccer, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a little bit of that in it.
Speaker 1: So that's what people are gonna take out of this show.
Speaker 1: It's so bad up there with Beasley that that now
Speaker 1: Amber saying that she could kick I mean, Bailey, Baby's
Speaker 1: the difference. Woo big difference, Yeah, kind of big difference. No,
Speaker 1: that's true, Derek. I try my hand at safety because
Speaker 1: at least you're staying back and kind of looking to
Speaker 1: see what's happening, and there's an off chance that a
Speaker 1: ball gets thrown and ye are you serious? Maybe you're
Speaker 1: you're looking in the backfield trying to find the ball,
Speaker 1: and Deontay Thompson is a striking past I think I
Speaker 1: think he I think I try my hand at safety,
Speaker 1: you would lose. Maybe these are professional athletes, you remember, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me say you remember you remember and pick up
Speaker 1: when the bad like the crappy player, you're like, who's
Speaker 1: the guy in the red shirt? Just run at the
Speaker 1: guy in the red shirt and I'll throw you the ball,
Speaker 1: like that's what they would do. So find the guy
Speaker 1: in the Longhorn T shirt. But but I but I
Speaker 1: feel like that's probably the position I have the best
Speaker 1: shot at doing anything that's worthwhile. Okay, so like again
Speaker 1: we're playing against professional act like maybe no position in
Speaker 1: football like requires more like instinct and feel for the
Speaker 1: game and you're just gonna step in. But which should
Speaker 1: do like a little competition? All right, best shot? We
Speaker 1: should do a competition between everyone, No, we should. I
Speaker 1: have I have one I have one heart, and like
Speaker 1: I'm a good sport. I'm not putting my own lack
Speaker 1: of athletic ability on camera for other people of mployment.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just not gonna do that. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do You'll play alone with a lot of things. I'll
Speaker 1: play along with a lot of like there, they're nothing
Speaker 1: could come out of that other than me looking like
Speaker 1: an ass and like, I'm not, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: It's not happening. Every every year at combine time, somebody's like,
Speaker 1: y'all should do a combine for the media, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's no gonna happen. I had a friend in the
Speaker 1: LSU media who did that. I'm not gonna name names,
Speaker 1: but literally he all he did was run the forty
Speaker 1: and he fell down running the forty and broke his
Speaker 1: colophone running the forty. I'm just I'm not. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's my point, Like you stand, you stand to gain
Speaker 1: nothing unless it's you know rich Eis and does it
Speaker 1: for charity. Maybe maybe he gains up there for people
Speaker 1: that I'm not. I'm not. I'm not doing it. So
Speaker 1: if I if I can come up with a sponsorship
Speaker 1: where it's like there's a children's hospital, where we can
Speaker 1: actually help out a children's hospitals. Rich Eisen has the
Speaker 1: power of the shield behind him, like he raises a
Speaker 1: lot of the power of the star. We're not we're
Speaker 1: not gonna raise enough money to make it worth it.
Speaker 1: That sounds bad. I was about to say bad, what's
Speaker 1: worth I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. All right,
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. Dave's kiddos. Run for the kids
Speaker 1: to Scott's tots. Oh god, all right, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: all you got. That's all. I think we're done. We
Speaker 1: have two minutes, all right, Yeah, two minutes. Tell me
Speaker 1: something you're excited to see tomorrow? Go that I haven't
Speaker 1: already seen. Yeah, who do you need to see more from?
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Alan Herts is back because when they
Speaker 1: when we first saw him out a few days ago,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, he's getting that day, and then
Speaker 1: he missed a second day, and so I'm just hoping
Speaker 1: that at this point that would be three days with
Speaker 1: the off day that he would have had to kind
Speaker 1: of get himself right. I hope to see him back
Speaker 1: out there tomorrow. I don't know if he's coming back
Speaker 1: tomorrow or Sunday or win, but I need Noah Brown
Speaker 1: back on the field because he's my pet cat and
Speaker 1: he's missing valuable time. And Lance Lenoor is breathing down
Speaker 1: his nick lance or is so far out in front
Speaker 1: of him that he lost sight of him. Is gonna
Speaker 1: make the damn team. I know, but that's also that
Speaker 1: that could affect him. I just start blocking guys down
Speaker 1: the field. Noah Brown needs to start showing. He needs
Speaker 1: to start showing what he can do. And I hope
Speaker 1: it's happened soon. But you and Brune needs to step
Speaker 1: up for you. Would you like to see more from
Speaker 1: I mean d Law maybe since he didn't even get time,
Speaker 1: he's at another level. Yeah, yeah, he's good, he's good
Speaker 1: to go. I don't know, UM haven't thought about it.
Speaker 1: I'll pick one while you think, while you're seeing and
Speaker 1: some Xavier Woods. I mean, it's just if you're gonna
Speaker 1: if they're gonna give this guy the opportunity to and
Speaker 1: they are giving him the opportunity to shine right now
Speaker 1: and to be that that's starting safety. We'd like to
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more ball hawking skills. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in the right spot, but just make more plays
Speaker 1: on the ball. That's what you need. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: one thing about Jeff Heath. He does get the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands more than you would think from a safety.
Speaker 1: You want Xavier Woods to kind of do that. He's
Speaker 1: been playing good, but you know, good would be a
Speaker 1: good You need a good third safety to be the starter,
Speaker 1: you need to be a little bit better than that.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see more from Xavierwoods. Well, the only
Speaker 1: group that I'm really really starting to become desperate about
Speaker 1: is the tight End. Although I've talked about like they're
Speaker 1: gonna be Okay, So you talked yourself out of safety.
Speaker 1: You're a believer, now, are you kidding me? I've given
Speaker 1: up on that and let's just see what they got
Speaker 1: in again. That's one of the things that's hard to
Speaker 1: judge out here. So I'm like, Okay, whatever you do
Speaker 1: is not gonna impress me right now, So that don't
Speaker 1: impress me much. No, Wow, I know some country like one.
Speaker 1: I know one country. So all right, that was the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, all right, Well this was the
Speaker 1: third straight day with a different host. So Dave, we'll
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow hosting. You'll probably actually the show will
Speaker 1: be on Sunday. Host Yes, Sunday, Sunday, probably, So all right,
Speaker 1: hanging with the boys of Shannon's up there, he is,
Speaker 1: he's up. Nate Newton, stay with us here for hanging
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