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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast always gets there. Man. We

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas, and I am joined. I'm

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Speaker 1: in a room that's just build with heroes. It's Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: It's Chris Westling, It's Greg Rose withal what's up boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan? How happy Monday? Oh? Yes, Dan is bringing

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Speaker 1: the Monday jokes back down in the There were two

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Speaker 1: which is that's an interesting genre to operate in in

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. Isn't it feel like we're a little

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Speaker 1: overdue for a little bit, you know, Monday? Uh sounds

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Speaker 1: like you're having a bad Monday. Monday is my right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's I think it speaks. I mean

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Speaker 1: Oh so I think at this point in time, it's

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Speaker 1: you might want to abandon this this effort. Then you're

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Speaker 1: reason not to leave the country. Welcome to the round.

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Speaker 1: What's the first one? I love? This country got a

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Speaker 1: phobic travel. Two kids? All right, all right, good show today.

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Speaker 1: We got some stuff to talk about. Um yeah, just

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Speaker 1: like bringing back Monday chatter. It's gonna be a Monday

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Speaker 1: Monday renaissance. A little later in the show, Greg, you

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Speaker 1: around ideas. Greg said, Hey, how about dernaissance? And we

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Speaker 1: all looked at Greg, you know, what the hell are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? What's a dernaissance and what is it Dernissance? Greg, Well,

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Speaker 1: Laura Dern has been having the Dernissance. Hadn't heard from

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Speaker 1: And then suddenly Derns everywhere She's She's popping Homer's out

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Speaker 1: The number one movie I remember from Laura earned his

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Speaker 1: that's the greatest Laura non performance. That well, it's It's

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Speaker 1: expect Andrew to be the old Andrew Wes. He wrote

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Speaker 1: You noticed that Pagano hasn't been eaten. No, he was

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Speaker 1: able to record that part that show, because look, they

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Speaker 1: can fire you, but as he said, they can't eat you.

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Speaker 1: He is doing just fine in his retirement. Don't let

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Speaker 1: He's a millionaire, but he's also got two years left

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Speaker 1: on his two or three years left on his that

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Speaker 1: there you go, that they gave him. I I was

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Speaker 1: surprised you didn't choose uh Dan a different portion of

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Speaker 1: the UH quotes, which really caught my eye, which is

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Speaker 1: where Pagano said he's strapped. He's ripped, my wife, my

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Speaker 1: three daughters, my granddaughter. They all thought he looked great,

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Speaker 1: sounds like a heaven whoa just like throwing in the

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Speaker 1: grand daughter. I thought was really generations. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: couldn't he just say he thought Andrew lucklock graz But

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Speaker 1: then you can imagine on FS one, uh skip Bayless

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Speaker 1: and another program that's not even close to Nick Wright

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Speaker 1: or what he's doing in his program. Uh, you know, saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's way too muscular. You have to have pliability like

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady to be successful. I was like, calm down that,

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Speaker 1: I like that. Andrew Luck looks like a stud and

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Speaker 1: he looks like an athlete. To me, it looks like

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Speaker 1: he's ready to take a beating from three hundred pound

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Speaker 1: defensive alignment. Let me ask you one thing, though, because

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Speaker 1: he goes eleven and five three years in a row,

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Speaker 1: then in they go eight and eight. But that's the

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Speaker 1: your luck miss nine games? When would you have fired Pagano?

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Speaker 1: Is it? That? Is it? After that season despite losing

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Speaker 1: back and the g M coach, new life, new relationship

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Speaker 1: when when Pagana went into Urse's office and came out

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Speaker 1: instead of being fired with a new con. Part of

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Speaker 1: part of Pagano's issue where was that he was a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach and at no point, even when they were

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Speaker 1: winning games, did their defense really improve very much? Do

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Speaker 1: you have to say the least? I also think that

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Speaker 1: GM didn't do anyone helping that in that scenario. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Why are you looking at me like that? I'm just

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Speaker 1: waiting for see what you're gonna say next. I figured

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Speaker 1: But that it sounds like you guys were having a

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Speaker 1: nice we had a nice chat on that, and we've

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Speaker 1: we've wrapped it up now and we are onto the

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Speaker 1: We're looking to you, our host, to move us along.

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Speaker 1: Moving along. Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly, who, as

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Speaker 1: we know, for years now has been dealing with cancer.

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Speaker 1: He's now in his third bout with cancer and it

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Speaker 1: was announced or he announced on Monday at his annual

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Speaker 1: golf tournament that he will be given the Jim Jim

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Speaker 1: me V Award for Perseverance at next month's sp Awards

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Speaker 1: in l A. Um he spoke, he spoke about the

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Speaker 1: honor and about where he is right now a little bit. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and I believe we have that audio right Erica. I

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Speaker 1: was just told, um, but in half of those that

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Speaker 1: I'm receiving Jimmy b An sp Award for Jimmy b Award,

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Speaker 1: and to me, people are saying, that's awesome. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: to jos a lot in order to just die awards.

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Speaker 1: But I, um, I just know in my heart that

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Speaker 1: as good as Aloraders put me in a situation to

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Speaker 1: help not only the people out there are suffering from Sinnaster,

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Speaker 1: about the little kid cho was going through tough times

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Speaker 1: to never about shoot fighting children never. You know, you

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Speaker 1: can hear it obviously in Kelly's voice, the battle he's

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Speaker 1: in against the big Sea West, and um, it's an

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Speaker 1: honor that's obviously well deserved. Yeah. He also said that

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Speaker 1: he won't be able to eat soliditudes until at least September,

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Speaker 1: and he talked about loving pizza and chicken wings and

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Speaker 1: trying to put it in a blender and grind it

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Speaker 1: up and it doesn't quite taste the same. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's losing a lot of weight. I went through

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Speaker 1: all that, I totally understand, and now he's got to

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Speaker 1: go through it, I think a third time. It's incredible

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Speaker 1: that can't I admire him so much because he has

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Speaker 1: to be incredibly tough to go through something like that,

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Speaker 1: and his family too, And I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 1: His playing days are far enough in the past where

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Speaker 1: a lot of younger football fans know who he is

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Speaker 1: but never watched him. But watching him in the a

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Speaker 1: f C, this is one of the toughest quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: I think is over often overlooked for what he went,

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Speaker 1: what what he endured as a Bill's quarterback to go

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Speaker 1: to those Super Bowls and lose over and over and

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Speaker 1: keep coming back every year. But you see it even

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Speaker 1: now that the toughness is just part of who he is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean telling he announced that. You know

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Speaker 1: and he's out there raising money and doing everything he

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Speaker 1: can't even while while he's recovered. Total badass. Jim Kelly,

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Speaker 1: best of luck to him. One last thing on that

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Speaker 1: for our younger listeners, Jimmy v Jim Valvano. There's a

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Speaker 1: ninete Sports Illustrative feature from Gary Smith, who is one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest sports writers in history, and you can

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Speaker 1: find it in Sports Illustrated Vault. Uh I'm Fighting to

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Speaker 1: Live is on the cover of the magazine, and I

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Speaker 1: believe the article is called as Time Runs Out. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the best articles I've ever read from a

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Speaker 1: sportswriter and it really gets into Jim Valvano's battle and

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Speaker 1: what he finds to be the redeeming aspects of sports.

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Speaker 1: And um, stay with that article to the end and

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Speaker 1: it will be a reward, and they promise you. And

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Speaker 1: if you've never seen the speech that Balbano gave at

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Speaker 1: the I believe it was the first or second sp

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Speaker 1: Awards shortly before his death, that never Give Up speech.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. Check it out on YouTube. It I ended

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Speaker 1: up taking a class on public speaking like at Xavier

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Speaker 1: University right about when he did that, and I ended

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Speaker 1: up I think I forgot to do my homework, so

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Speaker 1: I had to do something, and I think I ended

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Speaker 1: up doing some rambling, like how great Jimmy V's speech was.

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Speaker 1: Right at the time. It was incredible to watch, very cool.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news, Okay, Tinseltown zone. Laura

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Speaker 1: Durn shows that, whether it's in Hollywood or Joe Blow

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Speaker 1: down the Street, a career ebbs and flows, ups and downs.

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Speaker 1: I think we could all speak to that as well

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Speaker 1: in our own lives. Uh and in the NFL is

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Speaker 1: no different. Sometimes you're up, sometimes you're down. The goal

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Speaker 1: is to get back up. That's when you've actually built

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal a real career, when you could really, you know,

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Speaker 1: survive the valleys and get back to the peaks. Yes

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Speaker 1: or no, I think I think that's accurate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Laura Durn, she's got the talent. So when when the

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Speaker 1: director start calling. She had some personal struggle. She had

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Speaker 1: a divorce from Ben Harper. Ben Harper, but now it's

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Speaker 1: like she's never been she's never been better. No, I

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Speaker 1: mean the divorce, the breakup with Ben was very difficult.

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Speaker 1: I believe they had a child or tie diamonds on

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Speaker 1: the inside. Guy. That dude a big napster star. If

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Speaker 1: you're around during Napster is hey day, Ben Harbor was everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He was every late nineties. Yeah, very popular. Um okay, anyway,

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Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do. We're gonna go around room

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Speaker 1: already explain what this is. Don't need to go over

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Speaker 1: it again. Who is due for a big, big, big uptick,

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Speaker 1: Greg renaissance. How about the J. J. Watt asan that's

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Speaker 1: pretty good? Actually, I mean I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's pretty good or not. That the sounds The

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Speaker 1: difference between him and maybe some others that that you guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll bring up is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, J. J. Watt that we've seen

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Speaker 1: on the field has been productive and been incredible, but

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Speaker 1: his injuries situation over the last two years is unique.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we really haven't seen the J. J. Watt

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Speaker 1: that we came to know and appreciate for you know,

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Speaker 1: nearly three years now, too full regular seasons and even

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Speaker 1: last season when he was playing he was still coming back.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I'm hoping, you know, for J. J.

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Speaker 1: Wattison's is. I mean, this is my favorite defensive player

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Speaker 1: I've ever watched in terms of a snap to snap basis,

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Speaker 1: as dominant, I think, as any defensive player in this

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Speaker 1: twentie first century and really that I've ever seen at

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Speaker 1: least watching on a week to week basis. And I

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Speaker 1: think everyone knows it's like, Okay, J J. Watts great, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all know J. J. Watts great. But I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: talking like highest levels of the defensive players that have

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Speaker 1: ever played the game of football ever played. And then

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of his prime, he's struck down

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Speaker 1: by these injuries in back to back seasons, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just hoping for him to come back at least close

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Speaker 1: to that form that he used to because he was

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Speaker 1: such a fun player to watch and I would love

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Speaker 1: if the football gods would would set us up with

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Speaker 1: that and Jadevian Clowney healthy in the same season for

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Speaker 1: the first time together, because we haven't seen that together either.

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Speaker 1: Any concerns. He came off a serious injury, as you

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Speaker 1: said R two years ago as well, the back injury

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Speaker 1: came back and was really um at least from accounting

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Speaker 1: statistics standpoint, invisible for five games. He was getting better

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Speaker 1: towards the end of I remember the point when he

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Speaker 1: came back he wasn't j J. Watt. Then he hits

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Speaker 1: the shelf again with a serious leg injury. So does

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Speaker 1: that little sampling before the second injury give you more

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Speaker 1: cause for concern that old j J. Is not coming back?

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Speaker 1: I think it's the severity of the injuries that give

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Speaker 1: me because and throw that in with your point, but

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Speaker 1: he his first half of his career is up there

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Speaker 1: with Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor. That's who you speak about,

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Speaker 1: like the greatest to ever do it. And then is

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Speaker 1: the second half of his career gonna be like almost

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler or is it gonna be Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the year. Right, And he's he's not that old,

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Speaker 1: but he is twenty nine years old, So that's pretty old.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's to the point where you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: expect him to reach the levels he he was at.

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Speaker 1: I I love watching him, So I remember watching his

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Speaker 1: games week after week last year, very very closely watched China,

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Speaker 1: few games before he did get hurt, even though it

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Speaker 1: and he was playing at a Pro Bowl level again,

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Speaker 1: to kind of crest into a dominant second half of

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Speaker 1: the season. Hopefully you could do that this year. I

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Speaker 1: will throw it out there, did you thee No? I

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Speaker 1: thought you guys did an excellent job. But then sort

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Speaker 1: of sitting back and drinking it in, it was you

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Speaker 1: kind of pointed toward Mark and well, lookout, I'll chime

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Speaker 1: in on one of the next ones. All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go, alright, well, how about this one? How about

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Speaker 1: a little bit of I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be received well in this room because I'm I'm reading

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Speaker 1: the tea leaves of where this is is is gonna

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Speaker 1: be Sam Donald. I'm thinking about a car assance. Derek Carr,

636
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Speaker 1: quarterback Oakland Raiders. You gotta love Derek Carr. You gotta

637
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: love the Oakland Raiders, one of the great West. I

638
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: know you're a football head, a real historian. What's better

639
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: than the silver and Black when you think about history?

640
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: Just when baby just win, baby Al Davis baby carrying

641
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Speaker 1: on with his son Mark Davis, baby, Las Vegas Sports

642
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Speaker 1: baby commitment the excellence Baby Vegas baby Anyway, Derek Carr

643
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: was a borderline m VP candidate UM two seasons ago. Uh.

644
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Speaker 1: He was hit throwing twenty eight touchdowns and was four

645
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: thousand yards. Broke his leg in Week sixteen, ruined the

646
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Speaker 1: Raiders postseason chances. And then I think what gets overlooked

647
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: last season, what was a bad, bad year for the Raiders,

648
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Speaker 1: was that Derek Carr broke three bones in his back

649
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Speaker 1: in Week four last year. It was supposed to be

650
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Speaker 1: an injury that was gonna cost him maybe a month.

651
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Speaker 1: He came back in a week. And he finally acknowledged,

652
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Speaker 1: um uh at the after the season that I gotta

653
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Speaker 1: keep it real. I came back probably too early. I

654
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: was never really feeling great, and you probably are not

655
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna feel break when you literally break your back like

656
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Speaker 1: Bayne putting a batman over his knee. Little comic book

657
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: stuff there, t D he's listening, but so this is

658
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now he's healthy, okay, and everyone's so

659
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Speaker 1: healthy and feeling the best they've ever felt this time.

660
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Speaker 1: You're sure, but now he's a guy legitimately buy into

661
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: all right, Derek Carr is back to Derek Carr health wise. Uh,

662
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Speaker 1: and the John Gruden factor, which you either hate it

663
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: or you love it, doesn't seem like there's any in

664
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Speaker 1: between with football fans. But I choose to buy into

665
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Speaker 1: Gruden being a guy that could potentially get more out

666
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Speaker 1: of Derek Carr. Not less. I know the weapons maybe

667
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: are a little suspect around it, but I think Amari

668
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Cooper is going to eat and we'll see what Jordy

669
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Speaker 1: Nelson could do. But I think Derek Carr is gonna

670
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: be closer to Derek Carr. Thank It's a good one

671
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Speaker 1: in the entire Raiders experience going forward for the next decade, honestly,

672
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: because that's how long Gruden's contract is. But especially the

673
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Speaker 1: pressure this season. Car sits at the epicenter of that

674
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: pressure because everything that we know about John Gruden says

675
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna come in and turn the quarterback into

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Speaker 1: the best possible version that we've seen a car And

677
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Speaker 1: if anything, if if you get sixty p seventy percent

678
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: of that, it's gonna be big problem. And that's in

679
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: in that in that town and Raiders fans everywhere, because

680
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: you you've just handed John Gruden a massive king's ransom

681
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Speaker 1: to make your quarterback at least the guy he was

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Speaker 1: when they went to the playoffs. I mean you need

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Speaker 1: a Gruden siense a little bit. I mean you need

684
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Speaker 1: he's been out of the game for a while, he's

685
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Speaker 1: gonna come back in. You need a Gruden science. They're

686
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Speaker 1: tied at the hip. Do you believe more in a

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Speaker 1: car As Sons or a Gruden sense? I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's been This is getting hard to say. The Gruden

689
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Speaker 1: Sons is the one that everyone seems to be ready

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Speaker 1: to shoot down as having no chance of success. So

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Speaker 1: I've decided how to park my camper in the other

692
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Speaker 1: side of that argument. Let's see if John could do it.

693
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Speaker 1: Oh man, I like John Gruden. I like everyone is down.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it is kind of split on Gruden.

695
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Speaker 1: But I I think I think maybe this show has

696
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Speaker 1: been kind of rough on Gruden. I don't think that's

697
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Speaker 1: just the show either. Doesn't it feel like there's a

698
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Speaker 1: level of Shotten freud. There's also like, for some reason,

699
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Speaker 1: there's a lot more snark attached to the Raiders now

700
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Speaker 1: doesn't but doesn't Gruden hasn't he invited some of that

701
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Speaker 1: where he's like, I'm gonna be it's like, well, why

702
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: do you why do you need to say some of

703
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: these things that are getting on people's That's a good example,

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Speaker 1: uh of what I'm talking about. Like, actually that was

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00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: kind of taken out of context what he was trying

706
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Speaker 1: to say, and people just ran with it because it

707
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: was fun to run with that. Also because it's Twitter,

708
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Speaker 1: and that's what people do. They don't dive deep. They

709
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Speaker 1: just grab what's easy and run with it. He was

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Speaker 1: referring to with the ninety eight comment. I think when

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Speaker 1: he took over the Raiders literally in n there were

712
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Speaker 1: some veteran guys that he brought in because he thought

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Speaker 1: that was good for the core of the team, and

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Speaker 1: people just ran with that, with him saying he wanted

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Speaker 1: football to be nineteen and that's the way journalism works

716
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Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen. But uh, that's kind of my

717
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Speaker 1: point that people seem to want to take a bad

718
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: angle with him and run that's fair. I think he's

719
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Speaker 1: also a guy that's sort of like stuck his nose

720
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Speaker 1: up at the concept of analytics and is essentially shut

721
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Speaker 1: their GM out of the operation. So there's a lot

722
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Speaker 1: of pressure on him from a personnel. Still, no mckennel

723
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Speaker 1: on mackenzie has gotten Howie Rose treatment. Right now, he's

724
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Speaker 1: back in that. He's in the Polan based somewhere, He's

725
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: in whatever the Oakland equivalent of the Pocono's Mountains are.

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Speaker 1: John Bruden raiders are like religion to me. They're so

727
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: mysterious that I only have questions and not answers. But

728
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Speaker 1: it's a good kind of mysterious, right, put that on

729
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Speaker 1: a bumper sticker. They still have this bumper stickers. Yeah,

730
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Speaker 1: there's still there. Maybe not at they're peaking, not widely.

731
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Speaker 1: What else do Andrew Luck and Laura Dern having common

732
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Speaker 1: other than their renaissances. They were both in Jurassic Park three,

733
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Speaker 1: taller than you expect. They both represent the advantage of

734
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Speaker 1: having a parent with expertise and lots of their industry.

735
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Speaker 1: Both have gone on to higher levels than their fathers.

736
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Speaker 1: And it's like little Bruce Dern shot, they're okay, Hey, Bruce,

737
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Speaker 1: Bruce Dern isn't getting billboards. Bruce did a nice job

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Speaker 1: in his career though, got that light career academy. Well,

739
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: it's like, like Isaac Newton said, if if I can

740
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Speaker 1: see further, it's by standing on the shoulders of giants.

741
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Speaker 1: So they've used their parents for success. But shoulder of giants, well, yeah,

742
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Speaker 1: like some people might know it from Isaac Newton before, Yeah,

743
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: I learned it from dol Gallagher. Go ahead, Uh, this

744
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: is a guy who in two thousand fourteen playoffs. January

745
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: two fourteen, I had our video department make a highlight

746
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Speaker 1: clip of his two playoff games, and in that highlight

747
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: clip where more jaw dropping plays than I've ever seen

748
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Speaker 1: from a two games span any quarterback. He was that good.

749
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Speaker 1: The next year regular season, he leads the NFL and

750
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Speaker 1: touchdowns flirts with five thousand yards and then everything goes

751
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: in the tank two thousand fifteens of disaster two thousand sixteen.

752
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: He plays like a top five quarterback, but the only

753
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: people who know it are Greg rosen Thow in Pro

754
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: Football Focus because they're the only ones charting every throw.

755
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: But like, he had a top five season and everybody

756
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: act like it didn't have and then last year too.

757
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: By the way, it sounds like the third person in

758
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: the in the hat trick. Well, I get smarter by

759
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: reading Greg. You know that we all do, absolutely, but

760
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: I think we forgot that he was that good. And

761
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: then last year is like a debac debaculus fiasco. To

762
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: quote Dr Seuss, that it couldn't have gone any worse. Yeah,

763
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: Noel Gagher came up with that one too, But I think, like,

764
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: to me, what makes Andrew look great and what we're

765
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna see again is that he puts on her performance.

766
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't play cautious and he learned that from Bruce

767
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians when he came into the league. Never pass

768
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: up a home run, to go for a short pass.

769
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Speaker 1: If t Y Hilton's got a step, throw it deep

770
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Speaker 1: every single time. That's the way he plays and it's

771
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Speaker 1: why his numbers might not ever appease some people. There's

772
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Speaker 1: gonna be in completions, there's gonna be turnovers, but he's

773
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Speaker 1: getting the big play. He's going for the juggular And

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Speaker 1: that's how I like my Quarterbex desk. Yes, that's how

775
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: you play a quarterback. I love it. I we we

776
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Speaker 1: talk about what and is their concern about like coming

777
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: back and being the same guy. I mean Andrew luck

778
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: specific injury. If it's one thing, if it was like

779
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Speaker 1: oh he's got a bum like shin and it's finally better,

780
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Speaker 1: but it's this is like the part of the body

781
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Speaker 1: he uses to do his work. And it's been one

782
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: of the most elongated, frustrating, baffling injuries that we've dealt with.

783
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: We've written probably eight hundred articles about no one knowing

784
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: when they'll be ready exactly. And you're him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the lingering concern about him be reaching those heights again?

786
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: That's the question. Yeah, I think I'm invested because he's

787
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: turned into kind of a punchline. You can't have any

788
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of Andrew Luck update without everybody on Twitter acting

789
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: like he's never gonna be able to throw again. Kind

790
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: of on the Colts. I feel like the butt of

791
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: the joke with that is typically the cults, though, right

792
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Speaker 1: Like I think, like, yeah, it's everything surrounding that. I

793
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: don't know if people think he won't. I just like, personally,

794
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Speaker 1: I just don't. I love Andrew Luck. I'd love to

795
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: see it happen, but like, this is one of the

796
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: more concerning injuries out there. I mean that we've dealt

797
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: with in the inserting injuries as a football fan. Well,

798
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: if I'm not saying this has any bearing on Andrew Luck,

799
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: but if you remember, like this was the first few

800
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Speaker 1: years of Matthew Stafford's career repeated shoulder injuries to his

801
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: throwing throwing arm. Drew Brees had a kind of a

802
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: similar thing in which famously the Dolphins don't sign him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in just to Circle background, Bruce Derns eleven

804
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: productions that have gone into into productions this year, this

805
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: season active career. He's still going brucely in Nebraska, don't

806
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: give up. He was in Nebraska, got the Academy nom

807
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: and now he's working eleven productions this year including Les Bomb,

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Speaker 1: White Boy, Rick The Peanut Butter Falcon. Wait, so we're

809
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Speaker 1: gonna have to have a Bruce and Inherit the Viper.

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Speaker 1: That's us four of the eleven movies that he's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Durn is being celebrated. This segment is about someone who's

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Speaker 1: being completely outworked and out a better Falcon before. How

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Speaker 1: about Bruce Dern greater than signed? Bruce Arians love that

814
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Speaker 1: at Circle. How about Bruce Arians greater than signed Chuck

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Speaker 1: Pagan And we just talked about Chuck bagantans An alright,

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Speaker 1: Mark closes out, all right, Well, I feel like I

817
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: feel like on this show that we like appropriately recognized

818
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: and celebrated John Elway back in the day as the

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Speaker 1: finest example of a former player who would become a

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Speaker 1: general manager next to Ozzy Newsome, and he had the

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Speaker 1: gravitas to Poland Peyton Manning. They go win a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and John Elway looks like the absolute snake charmer

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Speaker 1: that can do no wrong in Denver, you know, even

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Speaker 1: postcard dealership, you know era, the guy doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: sell use cars. He's selling you a super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: in a stadium in your own town. Have a nice

827
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Speaker 1: time with that. Now now today that video games but

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Speaker 1: awful video game feel like he probably didn't have a

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Speaker 1: huge hand in that. If you am I wrong there,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's sat down. I don't think he

831
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Speaker 1: sat down with the programmers and said, here's my vision

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Speaker 1: for John Elway football Forintendo, just your name on it.

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Speaker 1: Well that again, that that shows you that he is

834
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Speaker 1: prone to the occasional misstep, and it popped up again

835
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Speaker 1: in recent years. I think that they feel like that.

836
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Speaker 1: The perception right now of Elway is that he's fallen

837
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Speaker 1: off a cliff a little bit. He swung and missed

838
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Speaker 1: on Paxton Lynch and I think we like Trevor Simmey

839
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Speaker 1: and Simeon did not work out in the end, they

840
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Speaker 1: move on from Trevor Simeon. He's had a handful of

841
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Speaker 1: drafts that people view is very suspect because they have

842
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Speaker 1: been and you have to almost wonder you go out

843
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Speaker 1: and hire this coach that after one season looks like

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Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't the best higher in the league and

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Speaker 1: was he just simply propped up by the final Heyday

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Speaker 1: run of Peyton Manning or is he a good general manager?

847
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Speaker 1: I think this is a great set up for him

848
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Speaker 1: to show everyone. F you, I'm John Elway, I am

849
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Speaker 1: good at this and I'm gonna number one. You've got

850
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Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb fallen right into your little lap and you've

851
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: got a big la. It's a big lap. You've got

852
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: great pass rushers. I think if you get case Keenum

853
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: to play, he's not gonna do what he did last year.

854
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: That was a perfect set up. And they're not that offense.

855
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: But if you get eighties something percent of case Keenum

856
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Speaker 1: and you just reduce some of the hideous turnovers that

857
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: that defense looked a lot worse than it was last

858
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: year because of the field position, the turnovers, everything that happened.

859
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: This is not a super Bowl type team right now,

860
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: but I think they are doing They were five and eleven.

861
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: They are due for a bounce back of some sort.

862
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna get if you can get. If you can

863
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: get Keenom to play at a decent level and he

864
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: plays sixteen games, that solves a huge issue from last year.

865
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: The offensive line is not pristine, but if you can

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00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: protect him just a little bit better. The Broncos, if

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Speaker 1: they would number one, they would have been viewed as

868
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Speaker 1: hitting this draft. He would have been viewed as hitting

869
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: on the quarterback to some degree. I think he's still

870
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a patch. But you can get your

871
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: quarterback next year and always survives this if they don't.

872
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens to John Elway always. I

873
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: have friends in Denver that they call him John smell

874
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Way when they don't when that's when they're unhappy with him.

875
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: So I think he's not smell Way this time around. Amassans.

876
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: How about the Broncos defensive coordinator saying that Bradley Chubb

877
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: was Khalil mackinvon Miller put together and said he nearly

878
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: passed out. When your Brown's passed on Chubb for your well,

879
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: and the Broncos have been making the Browns look bad

880
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: in many ways for decades. This would be another way

881
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: for l Way to do that, to take the guy

882
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: that people say Cleveland should have taken. Yeah, I mean

883
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: it's one of those picks that if you they it

884
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: fell to Denver and they just did the logical, you know,

885
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: obvious move. But that so what this renaissances for John.

886
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: This one's for John, This one's for John, This one's

887
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: for John, This songs for John, This swan's for John,

888
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: and that swans for John. John also the swans for

889
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: John on and all right, that once for John, to

890
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: think of it, this once for John and also that

891
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: once for John. I mean it was really just a

892
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: way to get that shoved into the show. Nice drop

893
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: there all tam post about the glass. We you know,

894
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: are you guys? Are you doing a little bit now?

895
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: We are? Yeah, we're great pats. Yeah, things are great. Cool,

896
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: cool dinner plans this week right right down, Yeah, Saturday.

897
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Very transactional relationship. I'll be trying to find out if

898
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: that happens. Um. I don't think it's gonna work out

899
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: for John Elway, but I believe that as I was.

900
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: As I was saying all that, I was looking at

901
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: around the room, and I was like, nobody is buying it.

902
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I can buy it. I can they have it. They

903
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: need a few things to go right for them, but

904
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: I I think John Elway looks at this roster and

905
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: he sees all the ways that can absolutely work. And

906
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: I and I can see it too. They need a

907
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: few things to go right, but I think it can work.

908
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I thought he was grassman at Straws up until the draft.

909
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Um in January, You've got persistent rumors that Vance Joseph's

910
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: job was on the line, that LA was considering firing him.

911
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: You didn't want case Keenum for two million dollars last year,

912
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: but now you won him for a lot more money,

913
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: and you to fix your offensive line, You've out and

914
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: sign a right tackle that the Cardinals benched last year.

915
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it seemed like he was grassman at Straws.

916
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: And then I thought he had a great draft, So

917
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: maybe there is Maybe he does send some magic and

918
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: like Greg said, it takes one specific route to get

919
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: to the top, but he sees that route. Um, all right,

920
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 1: there you go, hey, Mark, Before we go, you should

921
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: plug your USO piece give it a little pop, give

922
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: it a little love, to tell people what to look for,

923
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: where to find it. Uh, it's the vanity U r

924
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: l so would be NFL dot com backslash. It's backslash, right,

925
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: And it was like, never know if it's forward or backslash,

926
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: but it's back. It's one of the slashes USO. And

927
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Speaker 1: it kind of I couldn't you know, you're trying to No,

928
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing about about that piece you are. You

929
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: are honoring many masters with that kind of and so

930
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: I could not get into everything that I witnessed and

931
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: saw on the trip, but I tried to include as

932
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: much color as I could about the characters that we

933
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: traveled with and which included mark Ingram Pre Suspension, x Ryan,

934
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlop, Mario Addison, Ben Garland, Latavius, Murray, Castle, Carrot.

935
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Speaker 1: But we had a great time. I think they those

936
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Speaker 1: guys got a lot out of it, and I tried

937
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: to just mix. I did too, I mean, and also

938
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: the thing that the thing that like is kind of

939
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: unusual that I don't think we'll ever happen again. It's

940
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: like you get access to these like not secret but

941
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: military basis that no one would be allowed on and

942
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: you just see and experience things that we're pretty incredible.

943
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: And so it came out a Memorial Day and we're

944
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: well passed that at this point. So it's it's still

945
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: it's still on the internet. You can find it. You

946
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: can find it. What is that you are all again? Uh?

947
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: It is NFL dot com back slash USO. Feel like

948
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: the spelling of that is self explanatory. Yes, there you go,

949
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: nice nice stuff, work good self. You could have left

950
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: out the thing that you couldn't say certain things, but

951
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: that was a good seller. But that's true though, because

952
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: you're like you have to, you know, it's got to

953
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: get go through a lot of I would have said

954
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: if I were I would have lied. I would have

955
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: said things that I wasn't supposed to talk about. I

956
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: talked about and wrote about in this piece. And you

957
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: can find out for yourself. Well, you know, maybe maybe

958
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: i'll I'll like open a word press site and you know,

959
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: have a sort of a director's cut of that. All right,

960
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye out for that. We will be

961
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: back on Thursday with another banger of an episode. Uh

962
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out also. Connie Fox

963
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: will be with us, so we're gonna have some fun

964
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Speaker 1: until then. This is Dan Hansons signing off for Quiet Storm,

965
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: the mail Man, the old Boss, loose Cannon behind the glass.

966
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna work through this together, so we always do.

967
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Speaker 1: Till Thursday, m