Speaker 1: Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish
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Speaker 2: Krutchick as well. Checking in at the ends of an
Speaker 2: eventful weekend for the marl and taking two out of
Speaker 2: three against the Angels, moving back above five hundred, but
Speaker 2: a couple of major storylines that transcends even the current
Speaker 2: season record or top of mind here, so we're going
Speaker 2: to dive into that, and as always we're happy to
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Speaker 2: your pods. Afterwards, as I said, Marlins win the series.
Speaker 2: Some late breaking news towards the end of this game,
Speaker 2: as we'll get into with Kyle Stavars, that's still a
Speaker 2: bit of a developing story. So I wanted to start
Speaker 2: off with an emphasis on Sandy right here in the
Speaker 2: middle game of this series. Sandy another scoreless outing. That's
Speaker 2: three in a row for him, twenty straight scoreless innings,
Speaker 2: and most importantly with this game, tipping his hat to
Speaker 2: the Lone Depot Park crowd as he becomes the Marlins
Speaker 2: franchises all time leader and nings pitched Kevin. Do you've
Speaker 2: covered at least one, if not two or three of
Speaker 2: his separate records setting games this year he keeps breaking
Speaker 2: different Marlins franchise records. Thanks to his longevity, He's continued excellence.
Speaker 2: So this most recent one was one that's about as
Speaker 2: important as any of the others. For a guy that
Speaker 2: takes pride in being such a workhorse and an innings
Speaker 2: either he has now eaten more innings than any Marlins
Speaker 2: pitcher ever. Just dive into this particular game and how
Speaker 2: he's been lately, the fact that this this season is
Speaker 2: now turning into not a cy young caliber one, but
Speaker 2: he is as he gets to these records, as he
Speaker 2: gets into his thirties, he's still performing at an extremely
Speaker 2: high level for this team.
Speaker 1: What a bad year to be Ricky in Alaska. Right.
Speaker 1: You have this wall at the Marlins Museum with every
Speaker 1: record on it. Next year it's gonna be gone, because
Speaker 1: Sandy's probably gonna break the record for most most starts
Speaker 1: with franchise history. He's like four or five away from
Speaker 1: breaking Ricky's record. So uh yeah, this only cements that
Speaker 1: Sandy's probably the best pitcher of Marlins franchise history. He
Speaker 1: prides himself on going as deep into games as he can.
Speaker 1: He goes out there assuming he's gonna pitch all nine innings,
Speaker 1: and you know, in a game like today, where there's
Speaker 1: innings limits and pitt starters don't go deep into games,
Speaker 1: what Sandy does is very valuable to the Marlins and
Speaker 1: is what's made him valuable regardless of even when he
Speaker 1: has struggled. You know, in seasons past, like last season,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why team still wanted Sandy regardless of
Speaker 1: the struggles, because he could go six, seven, maybe even
Speaker 1: eight innings as a start. And he showed that in
Speaker 1: the month of June that it was probably one of
Speaker 1: his better months of his career. I got to say,
Speaker 1: because it was back to back to back seven innings
Speaker 1: starts and going deep into games and just the way
Speaker 1: he does it. And I think he's now completed seven innings.
Speaker 1: I want to say seven or eight times this season,
Speaker 1: he's gone into the eighth of couple had a complete
Speaker 1: game shutout. I still believe that's the only complete game
Speaker 1: shutout in baseball this season. So I also think this
Speaker 1: you could have made the case this is probably something
Speaker 1: he could have broken all last year, assuming he would
Speaker 1: have pitched in twenty twenty four. But regardless, no, Sandy
Speaker 1: continues to do his thing and every fifth day. You
Speaker 1: look at Sandy as a guy who not only resets
Speaker 1: your bullpen, but if you're on a losing streak or
Speaker 1: in a bad stretch of baseball, he's kind of the
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna flip things around and kind of get
Speaker 1: the Marlins on the right side. And we saw that
Speaker 1: last night with Sandy who Martins were what losers are
Speaker 1: four straight and he comes in and you know, kind
Speaker 1: of ends a losing streak. And unfortunately, I think I
Speaker 1: was talking to Nate about this yesterday at the ballpark.
Speaker 1: If he hadn't given up the home or to yard on,
Speaker 1: I think it would have been one had one of
Speaker 1: the best eras in like a certain stretch of the season,
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know what, Sandy's here and he's gonna be super
Speaker 1: crucial to this Marvels team that last time I checked
Speaker 1: was two and a half games back of the third
Speaker 1: wildcard spot. And you know, for a team that content,
Speaker 1: you know, wants to contend, he's the right guy to
Speaker 1: have out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean cretching the way that. I don't think
Speaker 2: it was much of a conversation heading up to the
Speaker 2: trade deadline this year, but we know that Martins are
Speaker 2: listening on almost all their players with the exception of Sandy,
Speaker 2: and the timing of this works out pretty well, just
Speaker 2: like last year where last year he really turned it
Speaker 2: on towards the second half of the season and now
Speaker 2: really validating their their decision to hold onto him, to
Speaker 2: take him off the table to they're treating him differently
Speaker 2: than they they have all these other Marlin stars.
Speaker 3: Of the past.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've you've gone through it so much throughout
Speaker 2: this Marvelin's history of guys that when they get close
Speaker 2: to the ends of their club control, they get traded
Speaker 2: because the Marlins aren't going to resign them via free agency.
Speaker 2: I think with Sandy that would still be a massive
Speaker 2: surprise if they kept him beyond his current deal, But
Speaker 2: as he gets closer to the end of it, like
Speaker 2: it's isn't it refreshing just to see them kind of
Speaker 2: value the actual both the combination of the on field
Speaker 2: value and the intangible stuff that he has as this
Speaker 2: like franchise legend and having that outweigh the actual business
Speaker 2: of baseball. And it's one of the rare instances where
Speaker 2: they don't operate like a small market team or they
Speaker 2: make an exception for a guy like this. I know
Speaker 2: that the fan base as a whole have kind of
Speaker 2: been yearning for them to treat somebody like that, to
Speaker 2: hold them, to give them the respect that they deserve
Speaker 2: after being around so long and being so productive.
Speaker 4: It's true, and it's one of those weird things where
Speaker 4: like a lot of the fans, not a lot of
Speaker 4: the like real hardcore fans, like the ones that take
Speaker 4: the time to listen to shows like this, but a
Speaker 4: lot of like the casual peripheral fans that are just
Speaker 4: kind of around the Miami market love to say that, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't watch the Marlins because they always
Speaker 4: get rid of their good guys. They never hold on
Speaker 4: to guys. You have a guy right here who's been
Speaker 4: here for almost a decade, who has been pretty tremendous
Speaker 4: almost every year he's been here, and the Marlins have
Speaker 4: done a good job in holding on to him, even
Speaker 4: though there's been two or three deadline cycles where they
Speaker 4: absolutely could have gotten rid of them, especially this time around.
Speaker 4: And I do think the Marlins get The Marlins deserve
Speaker 4: a lot of the criticism they get for a lot
Speaker 4: of the guys that they've given up, but this is
Speaker 4: one where I do think that they deserve the credit
Speaker 4: for doing exactly what the fan base has been asking
Speaker 4: them to do for about twenty years now, So I
Speaker 4: think they deserve a little bit of credit for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see if I can pull up a
Speaker 2: larger list of all the records that he now holds.
Speaker 2: And this isn't even a complete one at this time,
Speaker 2: depending on how much you want to dive into it,
Speaker 2: but he had well, this is him setting the franchise
Speaker 2: record for total endings pitch. So he's five clear from
Speaker 2: Alasco now and he has nearly two months left to
Speaker 2: continue to build that lead before I'm going to take
Speaker 2: a closer look at this, but this is going to
Speaker 2: be one of the records that's going to be closest
Speaker 2: to unbreakable with the way that the Marlins handle their
Speaker 2: pitchers and the way that pitchers themselves are used, like
Speaker 2: he is such an anomaly this year in particular, like
Speaker 2: this year he is head and shoulders ahead of everybody
Speaker 2: else in baseball in ending's pitch. Guys are just on
Speaker 2: shorter leashes these days due to injury concerns, and uh,
Speaker 2: this is let's see, we'll see how long he has
Speaker 2: to add to this, because he does have next year
Speaker 2: under club control as well via a club option. If
Speaker 2: the Marlins are going to be willing to pay him
Speaker 2: twenty one million dollars next season, and he's certain his
Speaker 2: market value is certainly going to be higher than that,
Speaker 2: so he's going to be worth it either to them
Speaker 2: or to another team. And then that's still the question
Speaker 2: of how much next season gets played. Of course, even so,
Speaker 2: like this is a number just to put him into
Speaker 2: person active, the closest active Marlin to Sandy in total
Speaker 2: Ennings pitch as a Marlin is Yuri Perez. He's not
Speaker 2: even at three hundred like Sandy has quadrupled anybody else
Speaker 2: that's an active pitcher on this team. It just shows you,
Speaker 2: like how much different he is than everybody else. How
Speaker 2: they hold him in this different category based on his
Speaker 2: high upside, whereas all these other pieces seem kind of
Speaker 2: almost interchangeable. But he's he's just different. He's just built different,
Speaker 2: as people say, and he's the perfect example of that
Speaker 2: where even if he's not the best pitcher in the league,
Speaker 2: he is still immensely valuable and for a team that
Speaker 2: has had a lot of unproven guys not only in
Speaker 2: the rotation but in the bullpen this year, like him
Speaker 2: eating those innings has been super valuable. Yeah, Kevin, if
Speaker 2: you were to guess, is like, are we ever going
Speaker 2: to see a Marlin's pitcher reached that kind of specifically
Speaker 2: when it comes to these nings pitch, like, is anybody
Speaker 2: gonna sniff this record again? Just to show the leaderboard,
Speaker 2: Nobody had really come close since in Alaska in recent years,
Speaker 2: like Dontrelle Willis pitched before in Alaska. Did Josh Johnson
Speaker 2: that was almost fifteen years go when he finished his Marlin.
Speaker 3: Sender, he didn't really come close. And then you're looking
Speaker 3: at a J.
Speaker 2: Burnett who was hundreds and hundreds of vennings below. Is
Speaker 2: anybody gonna touch this record? And if so, like who
Speaker 2: is maybe a long shot candidate to get there someday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, nobody's touching this record. I think it's as
Speaker 1: simple as that. If there were someone to do it,
Speaker 1: I guess Yuri maybe. I guess you gotta look at Yuri.
Speaker 1: Maybe Thomas White. I don't know. I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna get touched. And it's very again, it's very
Speaker 1: rare to see guys go deep into games in this
Speaker 1: era of baseball. It's just how it is. The best
Speaker 1: of the best don't do it unless their pitch count
Speaker 1: is in a very good spot. Sandy Sandy averages about
Speaker 1: one hundred something pitches a game, Like that's just how
Speaker 1: it is, and that's how he's built. That's how he
Speaker 1: builds himself up during the offseason, and the Marlins allow that.
Speaker 1: You know, he's the one guy that they treat differently.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you mentioned, Like this is this
Speaker 1: is a guy that guys Yuri Press was throwing a
Speaker 1: perfect game and he got taken out into eighth inning.
Speaker 1: Sandy a Contra could get up six runs and he's
Speaker 1: in the seventh inning and he's finishing the seventh inning.
Speaker 1: That's just how it is, and I just don't see
Speaker 1: anyone breaking that record.
Speaker 4: Because it's not just that he goes deep into games,
Speaker 4: it's that people don't talk about us a lot because
Speaker 4: he's still recently off Tommy John surgery. But he's durable,
Speaker 4: like other than the Tommy John here, he starts pretty
Speaker 4: much every game. Like he's not like the Edward Cabrera type,
Speaker 4: so Max Meyer types, where like Edward Cabrera is getting
Speaker 4: a blister like every other month, like Sandy makes every
Speaker 4: single start he's supposed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the other table I'm meant to well
Speaker 2: the tweet I should say they've meant to pull up
Speaker 2: before where he's the only Marlins win a cy young
Speaker 2: of course, and he already had the strikeout record from
Speaker 2: earlier this year. He had the quality starts record from
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. And he's the winningest pitcher in
Speaker 2: Lone Depot Park history as well by a few that's
Speaker 2: another record he said earlier this year. So he's some
Speaker 2: chance to build some breathing room right there. Let's touch
Speaker 2: on some other things from the series before we get
Speaker 2: to tours and the ripple effects of that. This is
Speaker 2: a series where like the Marlins head as much pressure
Speaker 2: to win as we've seen in a while, because this
Speaker 2: is an Angels seem that the worst record in baseball
Speaker 2: entering this series, they had sold for a very rare
Speaker 2: exception in their franchise's history. They'd actually gotten rid of
Speaker 2: talents at the deadline, and they just came in with
Speaker 2: Mike Trout, Zachnetto, and a whole bunch of question marks
Speaker 2: up and down the roster. So they win that first game,
Speaker 2: they eke it out four to three. But this is
Speaker 2: the stat that really like blew me away, the fact
Speaker 2: that by run differential, this was the most dominant Marvelin
Speaker 2: series of the entire season. They outscored the Angels by
Speaker 2: fifteen runs over the course of the three games, which
Speaker 2: is something that we just have not seen them do
Speaker 2: at any point this season. Even in series where they've
Speaker 2: swept the opposition, it's never been by that big margin.
Speaker 2: But both the Saturday and Sunday games were comfortable, so
Speaker 2: aside from Sandy and aside from Stowers. So we'll get
Speaker 2: to in a moment, Kevin, just what stood out about
Speaker 2: this series? You know, not ideal would have been sweeping,
Speaker 2: but still overall, taking care of business and really flexing
Speaker 2: their must those the last two games.
Speaker 1: I want to go to that first game, and I
Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk about the lost, but I think
Speaker 1: this is a conversation that needs to be had because
Speaker 1: I appreciate aggressive base running, I really do. I think
Speaker 1: the Marlins should emphasize that that there's a reason to
Speaker 1: do that. But sometimes aggressiveness leads to losing games and
Speaker 1: outs on the bases, and we've seen that twice. We
Speaker 1: saw that twice this week. The Marlins got in the
Speaker 1: ninth inning two outs in Atlanta, out at third because
Speaker 1: you go for a double steal minding with two strikes.
Speaker 1: And I know this is a big conversation we had,
Speaker 1: and I know Croutchak has thoughts on it too, and
Speaker 1: we could talk about that, but that should not happen.
Speaker 1: Then on Friday, bottom of the ninth Javier Sonoja with
Speaker 1: the double and it's not very far double, like, it's
Speaker 1: pretty close, like it goes into foul territory. Blake Lolli
Speaker 1: is waiving, what was it? Leo Himan is home when
Speaker 1: Jose Siria already had the ball in his hand, it
Speaker 1: was motioning to throw and he got being like it
Speaker 1: was close. They reviewed it, you could have even made
Speaker 1: the case that it was gonna be safe, but unfortunately
Speaker 1: to call it at the moment was that out And
Speaker 1: usually in those cases it's very tough to overturn something
Speaker 1: like that, and they're work going to overturn it. Marlins
Speaker 1: lost twice this week that this happens. I want to
Speaker 1: say that the Marlins are third or fourth in Baseball
Speaker 1: in outs at home plate this season, and I think
Speaker 1: they're at the top of baseball and outs at third
Speaker 1: or outs on the bases in general. So you appreciate
Speaker 1: the aggressiveness, but aggressiveness sometimes leads to losses. And they
Speaker 1: lost two games this week where that happens. And you
Speaker 1: know what, they probably would have lost those games regardless
Speaker 1: if who knows what could have happened, But you don't
Speaker 1: lose them on the basis you lose them with Javier
Speaker 1: Sonoha grounding out to short or or whoever was up
Speaker 1: a droll Mac was up flying out to right, Like
Speaker 1: that's how you lose the game. Not at the bases.
Speaker 4: I've never seen Blake Lawley put up a stop sign.
Speaker 4: I would like to issue a challenge to any of
Speaker 4: our listeners to send us a video in which Blake
Speaker 4: Lollly is putting up a stop sign for a runner
Speaker 4: going around third. I do like the send. I have
Speaker 4: a problem with stupid base running everyone. There was no
Speaker 4: mistake made. Blake Lolly and Leojanmennez thought that he could
Speaker 4: be the throat, and so he sent him. I have
Speaker 4: more of an issue with guys making stupid outs, like
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks so, I don't remember the exact
Speaker 4: details of it, but Jacob Marcia a couple of times
Speaker 4: this year has gotten thrown out on the bases because
Speaker 4: he like hesitates going to the next base or realizes
Speaker 4: that he's in a pickle and then goes to a
Speaker 4: base that he shouldn't be going to. And he's not
Speaker 4: the only guy. It's just that's the most recent example
Speaker 4: I could think of. That's the kind of stuff that
Speaker 4: I hate seeing. I don't really mind seeing Leohan Meenez.
Speaker 4: That was overly aggressive, maybe more aggressive than what I
Speaker 4: would prefer, but it's not stupid. It's kind of the
Speaker 4: same thing with the double steal that ended the game
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. It was a well executed still, they both
Speaker 4: went as soon as they both got good jumps. It
Speaker 4: was an aggressive call with hobbies Sooha to play. He
Speaker 4: doesn't have a whole lot of power, and with the
Speaker 4: guys that were on base, you think, okay, if these
Speaker 4: guys are in motion when the ball is hit, both
Speaker 4: of them are scoring if they're in motion and one
Speaker 4: of them is already standing on third because we executed
Speaker 4: the double steel properly. I don't mind stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I'm cool with the aggressive sens. I'm cool with the
Speaker 4: aggresive steels as long as you are sure in what
Speaker 4: you are doing and not just getting picked off on
Speaker 4: the bases because you made a mental error.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys saw this moment in
Speaker 2: the game today. It was in the very first inning
Speaker 2: when X was he started to play on second base
Speaker 2: and he ends up scoring on the error that the
Speaker 2: Angels made, one of several that they made over the
Speaker 2: course of the series. But Blake it started as Blake
Speaker 2: lollly and I wasn't planning on bringing it up, but
Speaker 2: now that we got on this topic here, it is
Speaker 2: just for people that may not have seen about this
Speaker 2: was X running from second to third, the ball gets
Speaker 2: thrown into the outfield and Blake Laly is like doing
Speaker 2: everything you possibly can, so like tell X, go home,
Speaker 2: go home, go and it takes him like three seconds.
Speaker 3: I actually take notice.
Speaker 2: So it was in a moment like that that I'm
Speaker 2: wondering was he really was there any sort of hesitation
Speaker 2: there going on in his minds, like knowing that Lolly
Speaker 2: had gotten several other guys thrown at at home, that
Speaker 2: maybe he was second guessing it a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I just love I love how close he gets.
Speaker 2: He gets like almost into X's back pocket, pointing him
Speaker 2: to score home.
Speaker 3: And he gets in.
Speaker 2: It was pretty awkward in that he doesn't even slide
Speaker 2: coming into home as well. I don't think he was
Speaker 2: like totally aware of the circumstances there.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: That's a guy that I wouldn't say the hot seat
Speaker 2: doesn't write the right way to put it, because I
Speaker 2: don't think the Marlins are gonna make any mid season
Speaker 2: coaching changes at this point, But realistically that's something that
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're gonna have to evaluate after the season
Speaker 2: when it comes to that, given the number of bouts
Speaker 2: they've made. Even though Clayton McCullough has been pretty vehement
Speaker 2: in his support of the decisions that they make. But
Speaker 2: that's what he has to be in public, you know,
Speaker 2: that's how he has to present it, even though I
Speaker 2: think as everybody watching from home recognizes that it's it
Speaker 2: feels like it's done more harm than good when it
Speaker 2: comes to pushing guys in those situations and understanding just
Speaker 2: all aspects of the play. Like in the case of
Speaker 2: the Amendez one, I think that one more so had
Speaker 2: to do with understanding the defender in that case where
Speaker 2: Jose Siri, even though he's not playing center field in
Speaker 2: that situation, he has been an elite defensive outfielder in
Speaker 2: the past, and he does have a great arm. He
Speaker 2: is probably the better for a guy that was playing
Speaker 2: left field in that situation. He's about as strong an
Speaker 2: arm as he get from a left fielder. So he
Speaker 2: made a great throw. He's a candidate to make that
Speaker 2: kind of throw, just because you have to know they
Speaker 2: have to know that in your scouting report that if
Speaker 2: he's in the game in that situation, it's not going
Speaker 2: to be your typical play from a left fielder on
Speaker 2: that position of the field. You have to make those
Speaker 2: mental adjustments and that decision at the time. So that
Speaker 2: was one where I can see both sides of that equation.
Speaker 2: I think it's to me that wasn't like an egregious mistake,
Speaker 2: but to me I would have aired on the opposite side,
Speaker 2: just when you take everything into consideration, which is with
Speaker 2: the third base coach has to do in that spot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, as we we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to harp on that stuff when
Speaker 2: it's a one run loss in that situation. That was
Speaker 2: a game where the Marlins left a lot of runners
Speaker 2: on base, so their offense really flexed the muscles on
Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday in terms of catching in those runs.
Speaker 2: And on Friday they had plenty of opportunities to do
Speaker 2: so as well, and just didn't convert at the same
Speaker 2: clip as they had before. So one more time, just
Speaker 2: pulling up this seriously. Three games against the Angels, Mike
Speaker 2: Tratt did hit his usual home run against the Marlins.
Speaker 2: He's been in the limited exposure to the Marlins through
Speaker 2: the years, he's been in peak form, and in the
Speaker 2: first game of the series is when he hit a
Speaker 2: home run that ended up making the difference at the
Speaker 2: very end for the Angels to win that one. But otherwise, yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty emphatic victories, Sandy's starting the Saturday game, and on
Speaker 2: Sunday they just got offense from absolutely everywhere on this team,
Speaker 2: multi hit games up and down this lineup, so that
Speaker 2: it wasn't really too much of a question even on
Speaker 2: a day when Ryan Gusto was starting and he knew
Speaker 2: who won't go deep into the game. Once it got
Speaker 2: to that fifth ending is on, the Marlins really blew
Speaker 2: it open right there. Something I'll bring up is that
Speaker 2: both Otto Lopez and Xavier Edwards were in pretty quiet
Speaker 2: but significant slump setting into this one. They'd really both
Speaker 2: fallen off, going back to like the losing streak that
Speaker 2: began a month ago. Throughout most of July and early August,
Speaker 2: those guys hadn't been doing much, but both of them
Speaker 2: really turned it on this weekends. In Saturday, in particular,
Speaker 2: both of them I clicked it on with multied games
Speaker 2: and then again here on Sunday, Ex's birthday. Coincidentally, he
Speaker 2: is another big game going on right there. So, Kevin,
Speaker 2: as we've looked at it, the Martins rely a lot
Speaker 2: on those guys, and they shouldn't take it for granted
Speaker 2: the fact that they've been as productive as they've been
Speaker 2: all season long. They've been one of the better middle
Speaker 2: infields in all baseball in twenty twenty six, and the
Speaker 2: depth behind them is kind of shaky, right, It's Maximo
Speaker 2: o Costa, it's Jared Serena. Like, if those guys go
Speaker 2: down with for an injury of any length of time,
Speaker 2: then it's a pretty steep drop off in quality. And
Speaker 2: so for this recent stretch where those guys haven't been
Speaker 2: hitting the way that we were accustomed to throughout the
Speaker 2: entire first half of the year, it's isn't it kind
Speaker 2: of just refreshing to see them break out in this
Speaker 2: way to understand, like to understand that you need those
Speaker 2: guys to be awesome the rest of the season for
Speaker 2: this team to actually stay in the race, and at
Speaker 2: least for these last few days they kind of looks
Speaker 2: like the best versions of themselves again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with Otto. Otto really had struggled coming out
Speaker 1: of the All Star breaking ops under six hundred, just
Speaker 1: not looking like himself, and honestly, you can make the
Speaker 1: case that's probably the thing with his finger where he
Speaker 1: got hit that maybe is affecting him a little bit.
Speaker 1: But something to keep in mind too, is the depth
Speaker 1: behind them has somewhat performed. Like we need to talk
Speaker 1: about Griffin knin Man, Like this guy has come out
Speaker 1: of it, Like after the All Star break, this dude
Speaker 1: has probably been the best player on the Marlins. Like
Speaker 1: there's no other way to put it. He has this
Speaker 1: season a one WRC plus. I know it's fifty one games,
Speaker 1: but dude, I mean, twelve homers twenty six RBIs like
Speaker 1: he's walking over ten percent of the time he's he's
Speaker 1: been really good. He's been really really good, even they're
Speaker 1: into losing streak. If there's one guy to talk about
Speaker 1: during that losing streak, it was Griff Two homers today,
Speaker 1: a hardest hit ball this season for anymore, And I
Speaker 1: think I was at one to fifteen was there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's really good. He's really good. There's another way to
Speaker 1: put a Casey finally seems like he's starting to get
Speaker 1: things going a little bit. Had a pretty nice series Mac.
Speaker 1: I know it's been up and down offensively, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you need Xceinado that that doesn't change anything. You know,
Speaker 1: those guys are the ones that set you up in
Speaker 1: that lineup, and with hours out now the pressures on
Speaker 1: them to perform so and I think you're gonna be
Speaker 1: seeing I think Xit that cleanup spot has actually been
Speaker 1: pretty good. I think Auto is probably gonna start leading
Speaker 1: off or hitting second in this lineup. But I gotta say,
Speaker 1: ever since the leam Hicks tray, they've really missed him.
Speaker 1: I think they really have missed him. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: at his numbers on the rays. He had a grand Slam.
Speaker 1: He He's put up great at bats like they missed
Speaker 1: Liam Kix and I think they missed him a lot
Speaker 1: right now too. But you can never predict injuries. So
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Griff and Cohenen has been a stud and
Speaker 1: they're really gonna need Xsinado now for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season, especially they they're trying to make this playoff.
Speaker 2: Put Yeah, go ahead, credit tell us more about Griff
Speaker 2: in his beautiful eyes.
Speaker 4: Man Griffin. Griffin and his eyes have both played the
Speaker 4: most amount of games since they've been in Miami, and
Speaker 4: I don't think that's coincidence that this is the longest continuous,
Speaker 4: uninterrupted stretch that he's played in Miami. And it's also
Speaker 4: the best that he's done. Like he impressed us the
Speaker 4: first season that he was in the majors. He had
Speaker 4: a very respectful, respectable stat line, a lot of good
Speaker 4: underlying number. He struck out a lot, but when he
Speaker 4: got the bat on the ball, it looked great. And
Speaker 4: he dealt injuries. He dealt with a lot of injury.
Speaker 4: He dealt with the dislocated shoulder last year, right when
Speaker 4: everyone was talking about how great he was in April.
Speaker 4: This year, he's doing great. He had a stint on
Speaker 4: the il earlier in the air, but then he's been
Speaker 4: tremendous and it's the longest continuous stretch that he's played here,
Speaker 4: and I think that that's helped him a lot, like
Speaker 4: to not be up and down, up and down, that
Speaker 4: he's just been able to be a starter, just go
Speaker 4: out there and play every day or almost every day,
Speaker 4: and have consistent reps and consistent playing time. The other
Speaker 4: thing that I've noticed just in the stat cast is
Speaker 4: he's pulling the ball so much more than any other year.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's a byproduct of the
Speaker 4: things he's working on or if that's something that he's
Speaker 4: doing on purpose to maximize his power, like he pulled
Speaker 4: that ball today, But that's like the biggest difference that
Speaker 4: I'm seeing between this year and every other year on
Speaker 4: stat Caster, just the amount that he's pulling.
Speaker 3: The ball, pulling it more.
Speaker 2: Ground ball rate is a little bit lower. So some
Speaker 2: final words on him before going to break it. It
Speaker 2: really is sometimes as simple when it comes to the results,
Speaker 2: the fact that first two years, fifty four combined games
Speaker 2: and the Major is only homeward five times five homers
Speaker 2: in fifty four games. This year it's almost an identical
Speaker 2: sample as those two years combined. It's fifty two games
Speaker 2: and it's twelve homer so more than twice as many.
Speaker 2: And it's the byproduct of that of pulling the ball
Speaker 2: more often. He's a guy that has power to all fields.
Speaker 2: He was a minor league home run champ a few
Speaker 2: years ago. The exit vlows that we're seeing today, that
Speaker 2: we've seen this year, those have always been there. He's
Speaker 2: always really stood out from that regard where he doesn't
Speaker 2: have to get his a swing on a ball to
Speaker 2: hit it out. So to me, it was kind of
Speaker 2: a surprising profile to him his first couple of years
Speaker 2: in the big league that I was expecting more slug
Speaker 2: but also some more strikeouts and some maybe some more
Speaker 2: questionable plate discipline, and overall he has overachieved when it comes
Speaker 2: to plate discipline, and now the power has arrived.
Speaker 3: Now he's hitting for.
Speaker 2: Power exactly the way as was advertised, And all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you have a guy that is knocking on
Speaker 2: the door of being an elite hitter, at least against
Speaker 2: right handed pitching. You know, maybe it's a step too
Speaker 2: far to say, like he should be playing every single day,
Speaker 2: but at least when he has the platoon advantage, which
Speaker 2: is the vast majority of games, like he's a beast.
Speaker 2: And so he shows again today. The numbers scoot a
Speaker 2: tiny bit because at the end of today's game, hitting
Speaker 2: a home run and off a position player something that
Speaker 2: we haven't taken into account too much, but I think
Speaker 2: that speaks to the fact that a uniquely dominant weekend
Speaker 2: from the Marlins that they faced the position player. They
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Speaker 2: things Kyle Stowers at this moment, fifth ending of today's game,
Speaker 2: he essentially to me it was a hit that really
Speaker 2: put the game away, put them up by eight runs
Speaker 2: in the bottom of the fifth inning, a two run
Speaker 2: single on during the weekends where he went six for
Speaker 2: eleven at the play two walks like this is as
Speaker 2: good as we've seen stours all year long.
Speaker 3: And as he's rounding.
Speaker 2: First base or I should say yeah, thinking about heading
Speaker 2: towards seconds, he feels something in his hamstring and very
Speaker 2: visibly frustrated with that, reaches forward in the moment one
Speaker 2: of those situations where it was instantly apparent that something
Speaker 2: was wrong. He's able to walk off under his own power,
Speaker 2: but he didn't leave the game immediately, and the Marlins
Speaker 2: just waiting on some additional tests to conclude the severity
Speaker 2: of the issue. I've been around a while at this point.
Speaker 2: As Kevin's still with us, maybe we hear from Alex
Speaker 2: Krotchick again later. I've been around for a while at
Speaker 2: this point when it comes to situations like this, and
Speaker 2: whenever it's such an obvious acute pain in somebody's hamstring,
Speaker 2: it's going to be an eyel sense. It's a question
Speaker 2: about the severity, whether it's a minimum ten days, whether
Speaker 2: it's a number of weeks, whether it's something more than that. Kevin,
Speaker 2: this is a guy that had a hamstring injury right
Speaker 2: at the start of the year, Like he got the
Speaker 2: year off to a very ominous start for the Marlins,
Speaker 2: where at the end of spring training he heard his
Speaker 2: right ham string. Didn't come back until late April, and
Speaker 2: when he did, it took a while to get going.
Speaker 2: So now this is the other side, and it comes
Speaker 2: during a time where he's really everything had turned on,
Speaker 2: So you touched on it just a moment ago. This
Speaker 2: comes right in the aftermath of them trading Liam Hicks,
Speaker 2: so that probably makes his absence, losing to hours is
Speaker 2: all that more painful, given that they don't have that
Speaker 2: obvious next man up anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's tough because Sowers finally looked like it
Speaker 1: was turning the corner and you're starting to get some
Speaker 1: of that production they really need, especially at the top
Speaker 1: of the top of the order. He was leading off.
Speaker 1: He let off i think almost every game of the series,
Speaker 1: and since he's really come back or since you all
Speaker 1: started breaking, they've tried to sort things up, try to
Speaker 1: get some runs on the board early, and Stowars has
Speaker 1: been that guy. So now you ask yourself, Hey, what's
Speaker 1: going on here? Well, who's up next? They played low,
Speaker 1: he meant us at first. I never want to see
Speaker 1: that again, but there's a possibility they do try that.
Speaker 1: And I think the other possibility no one mentions, and
Speaker 1: we could probably see as grand Polly come back and
Speaker 1: help out at first base and play some third base
Speaker 1: while he meant his place first. That would be not
Speaker 1: the best move, not the one I want to see,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's definitely an option. But I think
Speaker 1: the two obvious guys to at least consider her in
Speaker 1: a call up where Davison Delas Santos and Jonathan Long. Davison,
Speaker 1: who already got a shot at the major league level
Speaker 1: early early on in the year, literally second game of
Speaker 1: the season. He got called up after Morrell went down
Speaker 1: with the with the oblique or whatever. It was very
Speaker 1: limited sample size, looked okay, he's been good in Triple A.
Speaker 1: He had a homer yesterday, I believe, and he had
Speaker 1: to hit today before the game got called they just
Speaker 1: called the game. By the way, Jay Speck technically threw
Speaker 1: a perfect game. By the way. Anyways, Jonathan Long, who
Speaker 1: got acquired in the Braxton Garrit trade along with Jay Speck,
Speaker 1: has been really good since coming to the Marlins. I
Speaker 1: know it's four games, but he looks really good. He
Speaker 1: could play the outfield, could play first base. I believe
Speaker 1: he was the International Elite Player of the Week or
Speaker 1: whatever it was, or of the month. Sorry, and yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the guy who kind of was blocked in
Speaker 1: the CUB system now has a pretty good opportunity with
Speaker 1: the Marlins where he could see a lot of everyday
Speaker 1: playing time with him if if he does get called up.
Speaker 1: So those are two guys to consider, both on the
Speaker 1: forty man. So that's easy to make the transaction. I
Speaker 1: believe you just or not back. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: not beck. I'm sorry as Long on the forty man,
Speaker 1: I don't he.
Speaker 2: Maybe it'd be great if we had a graphic that
Speaker 2: we could pan too that.
Speaker 3: Shows there it is.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I've Star Wars highlighted right there for the moment.
Speaker 2: The Marlins have a rare opening on their forty men.
Speaker 2: So right now, there's thirty nine players on this forty
Speaker 2: of all the trade stuff.
Speaker 3: Long is not one of them.
Speaker 2: Yet. He's a guy that would be eligible for the
Speaker 2: Rule five draft after the season, guy that the Marlins
Speaker 2: clearly intends to place on their forty men and using
Speaker 2: the big leagues in the not too distant future. It's
Speaker 2: an interesting, it's a fascinating conversation, which is why we're
Speaker 2: having it now because Long is deep into his second
Speaker 2: full season at Triple A.
Speaker 3: Davis and Dale.
Speaker 2: Los Santos is now more than two full seasons into
Speaker 2: his Triple A experience. Remember he got he was at
Speaker 2: that level even before the trade to the Marlins two
Speaker 2: seasons ago. Finished out twenty twenty four. Triple A struggled
Speaker 2: a lot of last year on the fields, even a
Speaker 2: little bit off the field from what we heard, and
Speaker 2: then this year it's been a lot better. But it
Speaker 2: does come with that caveo that it's a guy that's
Speaker 2: repeating a level that we've seen him play up before.
Speaker 2: So the numbers are a lot better this year. He
Speaker 2: did hit another home run today. The plate discipline numbers
Speaker 2: have improved quite a bit. The strikeout rate is even
Speaker 2: lower than it's been before an interesting conversation there. For
Speaker 2: one long it should be acknowledged he can play both
Speaker 2: first base and the corner outfield spot, so that's a
Speaker 2: pretty direct fill in forst Hours, Whereas with Dela Santos,
Speaker 2: for anybody that's unfamiliar, used to be third base and
Speaker 2: first base. He's exclusively first base. Now they've given him
Speaker 2: a long leash at third and it didn't work out
Speaker 2: with his throwing struggles there. So Dela Santos is only
Speaker 2: a first base option, but he's one that has i'd
Speaker 2: say even more raw power, one that the upside is
Speaker 2: very interesting. And he is still just twenty three years old,
Speaker 2: like he would be the youngest guy on this Marlins team,
Speaker 2: even though it feels like he's been around a while.
Speaker 2: Even though the prospect the prospect shine has really worn off.
Speaker 2: He's the guy that fell outside of our top thirty list,
Speaker 2: and SE's somebody that the downside is pretty low. If
Speaker 2: he is just swinging at the wrong pitches, he's not
Speaker 2: going to be successful. But at the same time, he
Speaker 2: gotta give him some credit for improving, and the fact
Speaker 2: that he's on the forty men already, I would say
Speaker 2: is a factor that works into his favor. It's something
Speaker 2: where you know the team doesn't have to overthink that decision.
Speaker 2: He's the guy that's already he's I would say, I
Speaker 2: haven't fully thought this through yet, but I would say
Speaker 2: that I kind of lean towards I'd like to see
Speaker 2: him get a shot that it's it feels like now
Speaker 2: we're never for him, just given all the reps he's
Speaker 2: already had at Triple A. And even if you're not
Speaker 2: expecting him to play every day like that should be
Speaker 2: noted too. He could call You're not necessarily calling somebody
Speaker 2: up expecting them to fill Sour's shoes by playing every
Speaker 2: single day, and Sours was playing, he had started twenty
Speaker 2: eight consecutive games. He's been everyday player for this Marrol
Speaker 2: and Steam. You're not expecting anybody to directly, one for
Speaker 2: one fill his shoes. It's more about which of these
Speaker 2: guys in Jacksonville it's most appropriate to call up. And
Speaker 2: I kind of lean towards De la Santos. They do
Speaker 2: have a lot of They have enough outfield depth, I
Speaker 2: would say already on their active roster, between Casey and
Speaker 2: Marcy and Ruiz still playing well and Bert and the
Speaker 2: act that even Sonoha. Of course you Noha can pitch
Speaker 2: and fill in at those spots, and he's been pretty
Speaker 2: hot at the plate lately that I think it's fine
Speaker 2: to call up a first base only guy if, like
Speaker 2: Dala Santos, especially if he is, to my degree, you know,
Speaker 2: shown almost as much as he can at Triple A
Speaker 2: in order to ultimately get a sink or swim at
Speaker 2: the big league level. But yeah, that's kind of where
Speaker 2: I land. A name that hadn't come up yet is
Speaker 2: Camp Alderman. I mean, he's a guy that statistically is
Speaker 2: having a better Yeah, long Ard, dal Santos, what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on him? As a guy that used to
Speaker 2: be only an outfielder, he's been learning first base this year?
Speaker 2: Where do you think he stands in this decision?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I forgot about Camp. Yeah, that's a good one
Speaker 1: and another thing to mention real quick, And I know
Speaker 1: you'll probably bring this up at some point, Augustine. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll see. And Knak could also play from first, so
Speaker 1: we'll see if that ends up happening. But yeah, looking
Speaker 1: at Camp, is I believe this is another guy that's
Speaker 1: eligible for the rule five right, or maybe he's next year, right, Yes, actually,
Speaker 1: I've just pulled up I can check. Yes, he's eligible
Speaker 1: this year, so they would be doing themselves a favor
Speaker 1: by adding Alderman to the forty man too. But I
Speaker 1: think if he had to choose which one gets drafted,
Speaker 1: probably probably both could go. But anyways, Alderman, the only
Speaker 1: issue with him so far I've seen this year is
Speaker 1: that the strikeout rate is way up from where it
Speaker 1: was last season. They had finally gotten to a point
Speaker 1: where it was at twenty three percent. That's manageable. It
Speaker 1: would go up regardless at the major league level, but
Speaker 1: you can manage that. This season it's at thirty one percent.
Speaker 1: And he I believe he scorched the ball yesterday or today.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they ended up playing if it
Speaker 1: was a doubleheader yesterday or today, but anyways, he hit
Speaker 1: a homer fifteen on the year, one nineteen WRC. Plus
Speaker 1: he's walking a lot more though, which is good, or
Speaker 1: just a little bit more, but still that works. And again,
Speaker 1: as Eli noted, he could play the outfield, so they
Speaker 1: could mix a match throughout the remainder of the season,
Speaker 1: or for most of the time sours would be out,
Speaker 1: So that's something to keep in mind there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Miami's options. That's that's something that we haven't been able
Speaker 1: to say in a while, where they could go a
Speaker 1: variety of different ways, and he really wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 1: I guess the only one that would be the worst
Speaker 1: one would be calling up Polli and Lo gets the
Speaker 1: first base reps. But outside of that, they can't go
Speaker 1: wrong with any other move. The Della Santos long Alderman
Speaker 1: Conine at first you call up an outfielder, they've got
Speaker 1: their options.
Speaker 2: It should be noted again with Conin, just to catch
Speaker 2: everybody up, he did get first base reps in spring training.
Speaker 2: He's played a total of six innings at first base
Speaker 2: during the regular season. They made a clear choice that
Speaker 2: they like Stour's defense there better than Conine. It's been
Speaker 2: a really small sample, so it's hard to sell from
Speaker 2: my vantage point if that's the right call or not,
Speaker 2: but they clearly made that choice that Stowers is playing
Speaker 2: first base basically every day this last month and a
Speaker 2: half or so, whereas Conine only in very select situations,
Speaker 2: and Conin has still been in the lineup for the most.
Speaker 3: Of these games.
Speaker 2: They just apparently aren't too sold on his defense of
Speaker 2: that position. Yet it isn't interesting hypothetical to see whether
Speaker 2: he gets they by in this situation. They just expand
Speaker 2: his playing time there quite a bit, and he might
Speaker 2: become their primary first baseman, but.
Speaker 3: It seems like a big leap.
Speaker 2: Again, touching on Augustine, he hasn't even played first base
Speaker 2: in minor league game since coming to the organization. This
Speaker 2: is something that Clayton McCullum mensoned on Fish Unfiltered back
Speaker 2: in late June. He had mentioned that they were thinking
Speaker 2: about or something like that, intending considering having Gusts get
Speaker 2: some first base reps, and that never happens during the
Speaker 2: minor leagues. Peter Bendix reiterated that when he got called
Speaker 2: up that they're actually working on it in drills, and
Speaker 2: now we've seen some evidence of him doing that, but
Speaker 2: still have not actually witnessed it in a live game yet.
Speaker 2: So he is, of all these options, he's the one
Speaker 2: that's most questionable there. And I think I've spoken about
Speaker 2: this before, not trying to really not trying to be
Speaker 2: too overly harsh on Gus, just what I see as
Speaker 2: a guy that his main struggle as a defensive catcher
Speaker 2: is physically receiving the ball, and that's so much of
Speaker 2: the job at first days is being able to catch
Speaker 2: the ball in the dirt at awkward angles that I
Speaker 2: just feel like the same things that have been deficiencies
Speaker 2: for him as a catcher are going to carry over
Speaker 2: to first phase and that I just don't think that
Speaker 2: he's going to be successful there. Defensively, It's just that
Speaker 2: he is a very talented hitter, nonetheless, a guy that
Speaker 2: his talent is very much on par with Kemp and
Speaker 2: Davison in a way that ultimately, if he hits enough,
Speaker 2: then you can kind of live with whatever the quality
Speaker 2: of the defense is. The fact that the Marlins said
Speaker 2: that they were already working on this makes me think
Speaker 2: that we're going to see it to some extents over
Speaker 2: these coming days or weeks, however long that Sours is out,
Speaker 2: because his role before that was pretty murky, a guy
Speaker 2: that would only catch once a week or so and
Speaker 2: then DH against occasional lefties if they faced them, which
Speaker 2: the Marlins haven't really faced very often since he's returned,
Speaker 2: so his role was going to be really limited as
Speaker 2: it was before Sowers goes down with this injury. So
Speaker 2: and just in their defense when it comes to trading
Speaker 2: away Leam Hicks, it's not like you could have anticipated
Speaker 2: this tours injury occurring. Like it did feel like they
Speaker 2: had this excess of left handed hitters moving forward, and
Speaker 2: that felt they were selling high on Hicks. And even
Speaker 2: though he's done really well with the Rays, and even
Speaker 2: though the Marls now have this void, it's not something
Speaker 2: that they really could have anticipated.
Speaker 3: So what are you saying.
Speaker 2: Are you having any sort of remorse or regret about
Speaker 2: dealing Hicks or you still feel like that was the
Speaker 2: appropriate decision just given where the team was at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they felt and we all thought it was
Speaker 1: the right move, I still stand by that. I just
Speaker 1: think the one thing we never accounted was like, there's
Speaker 1: no other first basement on the roster now except Kyle Stowers.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone accounted for that when when they
Speaker 1: actually made the trade, I don't think we did. We
Speaker 1: never noticed, Like we never brought this up a single time.
Speaker 1: Right Norby was in Triple A. They ended up trading
Speaker 1: him that same day they acquired Jonathan Long. We have said,
Speaker 1: maybe they call him up right away, he's in Triple A.
Speaker 1: Outside of that and I don't think anyone would have
Speaker 1: accounted for this to happen, right, And you can never
Speaker 1: predict an injury, which is terrible to even think about,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you can't predict one. So Stower's hurt and
Speaker 1: now I gotta go next man up, And thankfully they
Speaker 1: do have quite a bit of options, and this is
Speaker 1: a position of short plus. I guess you could make
Speaker 1: a to a certain extent, make the case regardless of
Speaker 1: who actually is playing the position, because if you consider
Speaker 1: Leo Heimantez and Augustin Ramierz surplus at first base, I
Speaker 1: would disagree those are just guys that are gonna help
Speaker 1: you in the moment. But you know, Davison's like a
Speaker 1: solid first baseman. He's actually not that bad. He's probably
Speaker 1: the best defensive one of the bunch. Jonathan Long could hit,
Speaker 1: that's not a question. And then I think we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with Alderman. I think that would be the
Speaker 1: flashy call up. I don't think they would do it,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a chance that that's like the
Speaker 1: flashy guy that you call up see if maybe he
Speaker 1: gets it going, kind of like what Gus did last year.
Speaker 1: He got called up and really got it going right away.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Marcy, So maybe they could do that,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be shocked if it's Davis, and Davison
Speaker 1: would still be the youngest guy on the roster. And yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think he showed some good stuff in his first
Speaker 1: couple limited action of games.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was very limited, but I agree that I
Speaker 2: saw some really positive indicators there early in the year.
Speaker 2: So we're towards prediction time shortly. One usual look at
Speaker 2: the wild card standings and where we're at it at
Speaker 2: this moment, so if we were to updated to the instant,
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks did win their game this afternoon, which makes
Speaker 2: it a three full games between the Marlins and either
Speaker 2: of those second and third wild card spots, three back
Speaker 2: of both the Phillies and the d Backs with only geez,
Speaker 2: I think, where we only have seven weeks left in
Speaker 2: this season, so it's starting to, you know, starting to
Speaker 2: come down to a getting clear idea about who's still
Speaker 2: in it. And you see in that picture the Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: Pirates are still in the race, although that they've been
Speaker 2: fading themselves over the last few weeks in a way
Speaker 2: that they're now two games two and a half back
Speaker 2: of where the Marlins are in these standings, and they're
Speaker 2: missing a few key players coming into this series, including
Speaker 2: Connor Griffin, O'Neil Cruz, Mitch Keller, Ryan O'Hearn. Some of
Speaker 2: their bigger they do have like Baker. Yeah, that I
Speaker 2: was reminded of that, Yes he has, because I've seen
Speaker 2: photos of him pitching. I'd have to look up the
Speaker 2: results right now. Very quick revisited the Lake Boker trade,
Speaker 2: the Marlins sending gaining three prospects when trading away Boker.
Speaker 2: He's made two appearances with the Pirates, each of them
Speaker 2: two innings apiece. We saw that versatility with him in Miami.
Speaker 2: They was able to go multiple innings, so two innings
Speaker 2: pitched in each of those outings. So old overall one Yeah,
Speaker 2: one run allowed in four innings, six strikeouts, teeny tiny
Speaker 2: sample size, but a guy that's already pitching significant well,
Speaker 2: one of those wasn't a blowout, so it's a little
Speaker 2: early on to say his precise role, but that was
Speaker 2: one of those that was one of those trades that
Speaker 2: that was the very last one that they made, it
Speaker 2: felt before the deadline, either that one or the Reese
Speaker 2: Hines one, however, was that was the one that was
Speaker 2: really a buzzer beater, sending him to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: And just a reminder of the Marlins in.
Speaker 2: That particular deal, they got Hun Sung Lee we haven't
Speaker 2: seen play yet, Brian Sanchez who is with UA A Pensacola,
Speaker 2: and Brandon Bidoit who is on the IL for Triple
Speaker 2: A Jacksonville right now. They got three of those players
Speaker 2: back in return, but all three that are as we're
Speaker 2: about to update our rankings of the Fish on first
Speaker 2: top thirty, I don't think any of them are going
Speaker 2: to crack that list. So it was more of a
Speaker 2: quantity over quality trade. But that is where things currently
Speaker 2: stand on that. It's coming up on the other side
Speaker 2: of the off day, So just as a refresher, I
Speaker 2: think a very conveniently placed off day for the Marlins,
Speaker 2: a home off day that gets a chillax for we
Speaker 2: almost forty eight full hours until their next game, and
Speaker 2: really assess where Stwurs is, you know, the severity of
Speaker 2: that injury, and then make that decision. They probably haven't
Speaker 2: made the decision quite yet in terms of which of
Speaker 2: those candidates that we went over actually gets the bump up,
Speaker 2: but we'll certainly have it covered there in either way,
Speaker 2: the Martins are going to be leaning more on some
Speaker 2: youth in way you slice of These are guys with
Speaker 2: the minimal, if any, major league experience, So it's just
Speaker 2: the volatility that they have is that's going to be
Speaker 2: the big loss. Where with Towers, he's just been over
Speaker 2: the course of these last couple of months, he's been
Speaker 2: extremely consistent, and you just don't know what you're going
Speaker 2: to get with these young guys coming up and tasting
Speaker 2: the majors on a consistent basis for the first time.
Speaker 2: That being said, we will head into our favorite segment
Speaker 2: and our final segment of the show. This is predictions time.
Speaker 2: This is prediction time.
Speaker 3: That's my prediction, but who knows.
Speaker 2: Let me get the leaderboard up here for one moment,
Speaker 2: because we have a tie at the very top as
Speaker 2: we head down the stretch of the regular season, our
Speaker 2: FoFs after Jeremiah Geiger. He's been near the top of
Speaker 2: the leaderboard through most of the season, and now he
Speaker 2: has some company up there with super sub David Fernandez.
Speaker 3: You see Kevin there.
Speaker 2: In the twelfth spot, tied for eleventh. If you want
Speaker 2: to be generous with it, and there's myself. I'm in
Speaker 2: sixteenth place. Still a lot of the year left to go,
Speaker 2: and we are counting everybody's predictions that come from our
Speaker 2: value to super subs. So you can go to Fishing
Speaker 2: on first dot com slash subscriptions to sign up if
Speaker 2: you haven't already participated in this, and we'll keep it
Speaker 2: updated all season long. Between every single series, how many
Speaker 2: games tomorrows will win will be the MVP has determined
Speaker 2: by win probability. Added an awkward moment this past weekend
Speaker 2: because Tours was the most deserving player, but nobody dicked him.
Speaker 3: Everybody forever reason.
Speaker 2: Was off his sense as of late stands because he
Speaker 2: wasn't with the pick. It ended up going to Mike
Speaker 2: Trout instead. But as long as somebody put your name
Speaker 2: in for consideration and the end up finishing on top,
Speaker 2: the player is the MVP in this race. What is
Speaker 2: coming downst the wire? And I'll look the music going
Speaker 2: and then we'll go to Kevin ms from three games
Speaker 2: set against the Pirates, one that has very important National
Speaker 2: League Wild Card race randifications go ahead.
Speaker 1: Marlins will take two out of three, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to go with Griffin Conan. He's been the best player
Speaker 1: offensively for this team. He's going to keep it going
Speaker 1: too Homers in the series.
Speaker 2: I do think the Marlins are catching the Pirates at
Speaker 2: the right time. I need to be pretty bold to
Speaker 2: make up grounds in this prediction time race. I will
Speaker 2: have the Marlins sweeping the Pirates three games to none
Speaker 2: over the course of these next three games in Miami,
Speaker 2: and include upsetting Paul Skeins in one game.
Speaker 3: But Skins hasn't been quite himself.
Speaker 2: This year, and with those other notable losses on the
Speaker 2: offensive side for Pittsburgh, I think even without so Tours,
Speaker 2: that Miami is gonna be able to win some tightly
Speaker 2: contested games over the course of this series. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give it to the funny guy. Pete Fairbanks is my
Speaker 2: series MVP. I think he's gonna pitch a couple of
Speaker 2: these games, close them out, and make the difference in
Speaker 2: the Marlins stealing those victories. So very different vibe compared
Speaker 2: to this past weekend where and he had some blowouts.
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna come down to the.
Speaker 2: Right arm of Pete Fairbanks and that he's gonna propel
Speaker 2: the Marlins to four games over five hundred and some
Speaker 2: major separation from the pirates in the nationally wildcard race.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I swear to you I was gonna choose them,
Speaker 1: and then I switched my mind. I was gonna choose
Speaker 1: Pete as the serious end be like, let me go,
Speaker 1: let me go, griff hmm.
Speaker 3: It's yeah.
Speaker 2: It's very uncommon that a reliever wins is also. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a comment that we predict them to win awards
Speaker 2: as that's really reaching back.
Speaker 3: It was a series where I had too in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two.
Speaker 2: That was which maybe in the first full year that
Speaker 2: I did prediction times on the stream, it's not the
Speaker 2: second time.
Speaker 3: So Fairbanks has been great as of late.
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about him during the show, but we've
Speaker 2: highlighted him recently because he's on a pretty impressive scoreless
Speaker 2: streak and we'll see how it goes. So yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna wrap it up right there between Kevin and myself.
Speaker 2: Alex Krutchik also on with us and provide some on
Speaker 2: site coverage for US today at the ballpark. We'll once
Speaker 2: again have boots on the grounds at Lone Deepot Park
Speaker 2: these next few days at Pittsburgh and then we'll have
Speaker 2: another stream for you guys following that series on Thursday,
Speaker 2: and then in between we are expecting to have our
Speaker 2: regular visit with manager Clayton McCullough on Fish Unfiltered, So
Speaker 2: assuming that goes to plan, we'll have an episode between
Speaker 2: now and the next stream talking to Clayton, get caught
Speaker 2: up on the ramifications of the tours injury and his
Speaker 2: appreciation of Sandy and some other topics that we didn't
Speaker 2: cover on the show. So you can catch that episode
Speaker 2: of Unfiltered anywhere that you get your where you get
Speaker 2: this one, and uh, I think you'll enjoy that.
Speaker 3: One as we always do.
Speaker 2: Clayton is always very elaborate discussing where things stands with
Speaker 2: this Marlin steam. So that's gonna do it for this
Speaker 2: show again on the Fish on First podcast presented by
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Speaker 2: Territory Network, and we're going to continue to cover this
Speaker 2: team extensively down the stretch of this twenty twenty six season,
Speaker 2: So we appreciate all the support we get from you guys.
Speaker 3: As always, go Fish.
Speaker 1: Yeah,