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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the gear Talk. J're in here, I've

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Speaker 1: got Yannie with me, and uh, dude, what's been happening lately?

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Speaker 1: Hound hunting That's where I'm at. Oh yeah, a little

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Speaker 1: bit skiing, but mostly hound hunting, which, if you haven't

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Speaker 1: been following along, that basically consists of me driving around

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Speaker 1: both of my truck and snowmobile and hiking around in

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Speaker 1: snowy conditions and looking for but not finding any lion

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Speaker 1: or Bobcat tracks. That's what happens nine out of ten

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Speaker 1: times I go out. So I feel like I'm coming

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Speaker 1: up on another track because I feel like I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: again looking at like a two week maybe three week

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Speaker 1: dry stretch. That's not quite true. I've found a couple

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Speaker 1: of time tracks in the last two weeks, but both

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Speaker 1: times I feel like I've been at least a day

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Speaker 1: maybe too late. And you know, if you find that

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Speaker 1: all day, maybe you could cut loose on it and

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Speaker 1: end up somewhere with the cat. But a lot of

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Speaker 1: times I'm you know, I have until like noon one,

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Speaker 1: and so I feel like I need to find something

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Speaker 1: that looks like it's from the night the day before. Gotcha,

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Speaker 1: I have yet to be on a cat hunt. Maybe soon.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, you're gonna have to drive over to the

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Speaker 1: old Montana or sometime you can come drive around, drive

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Speaker 1: around with me, look for tracks, give it a rip. Yeah. Sweet.

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Speaker 1: So we are going to we're gonna talk about my

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Speaker 1: bear hunting gear list for early June that is coming up,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it a little different. Instead of

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Speaker 1: us both having our gearless and going back and forth

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Speaker 1: and what we're gonna take with us, we're just going

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Speaker 1: to go through mine and I hope you don't like

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Speaker 1: tear it apart, but you're gonna challenge challenge some of

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Speaker 1: the things a little bit. Yeah, I just want to.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we kind of chow us to do

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Speaker 1: this format because we can just concentrate on Jordan's list

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Speaker 1: and I can just ask you questions of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: why did you choose that? Because maybe because honestly, our

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Speaker 1: gear lists probably aren't going to be that different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think it's when I see a gear list,

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Speaker 1: if I see one just printed somewhere, I often have

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Speaker 1: questions about it and want to ask that person like, oh,

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Speaker 1: why did you choose that? Instead of that, because I've

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Speaker 1: always heard that you want to carry this when you're

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Speaker 1: bear hunting, you know. So yeah, yeah, we'll give it.

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Speaker 1: We'll give it a shot and see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Maybe next year we could post our gear list, or

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Speaker 1: we could even do it this year for other hunts,

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Speaker 1: and then folks could ask questions about those gear lists

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Speaker 1: and we could answer that in an upcoming episode. Good idea,

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Speaker 1: lots of We've had quite a few requests actually for

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Speaker 1: just a printed gear list to give people. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good idea, and I've got him. Man. I've

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Speaker 1: been making gearless now for probably dang near two decades.

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Speaker 1: I was making gearless when I was a guide. I

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Speaker 1: would send to clients you're a guide outfit or you

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Speaker 1: know they some people have still not gotten the memo

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Speaker 1: about how you really shouldn't bring cotton on a western hunt. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you go a full Excel spreadsheet with like graphs

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Speaker 1: and stuff? Uh graphs, No, but I mean I go

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Speaker 1: Excel spreadsheet for sure, and um yeah, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: make it look all pretty and have you know, some

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Speaker 1: some weights in there. I published one a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago on the Meat Eater. I think if you

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Speaker 1: type in like Yannie's Colorado sheep Hunt, it would come

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Speaker 1: up um and uh. I published that one and we

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Speaker 1: did a little article around it, and that was on

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Speaker 1: an Excel spreadsheet. Cool cool cool Um. This one I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at now. Jordan did not send me an Excel

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Speaker 1: spreadsh just in a word doc ormat yep it is.

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Speaker 1: I've gone the Xcel route before. I just trying to

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Speaker 1: be speedy on this one. I guess I don't know sure.

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Speaker 1: The key is I think like dating them and then

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Speaker 1: keeping them around so that you can reference them and

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Speaker 1: you know, look back and think about things that have changed.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I mentioned this, but I've

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Speaker 1: been saying it lately about these gear lists. A lot

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Speaker 1: and probably wouldn't have some orange whatever, you know what

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Speaker 1: like smaller lists that don't they have like ten or

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Speaker 1: less items that are very specific, right, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: need an know that I'm taking a tent and I'm

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Speaker 1: taking a sleeping bag, right, That's just that's just like

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Speaker 1: it's always going to come with me. But like speaking

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Speaker 1: of a bear hunt, I realized that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of downtime in that having a book on a bear hunt,

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Speaker 1: I feel like more than any other hunt. Maybe a

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Speaker 1: moose hunt would be similar, but like a book, I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's crucial on a bear hunt. I did

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Speaker 1: not put a book in here. You're gonna hunt harder

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Speaker 1: than me. Oh, I don't know about that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the first thing on the on Jordan's twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three bear hunting gear lists for early June. When I

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Speaker 1: saw it, I was like, my first question was in

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Speaker 1: my head was, Okay, is this for day hunting? Are

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Speaker 1: you backpacking? And then tell me, obviously you don't know

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Speaker 1: whether conditions are going to be, like, but what sort

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Speaker 1: of weather conditions are you expecting going into this hunt? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we uh were expecting I would expect anyways, Uh,

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Speaker 1: lows and like the low thirties, high twenties is what

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Speaker 1: of fifty typically, but man early June in the mountains,

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Speaker 1: it could snow easy. Um, we could have fifty is

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Speaker 1: not to me, that's not warm. No, that's not that warm.

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Speaker 1: Especially you get you get a breeze, going get kind

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Speaker 1: of some overcast like misty air type stuff like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's the timy year for it. You know that

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Speaker 1: spring like everything is just like wet, even if it's

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Speaker 1: not raining, it's just like seems to be kind of wet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It never seems like you go on a dry spring

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Speaker 1: bear hunt. No, I don't think you do. Um. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna this is gonna be Uh, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: staying in a cabin, which is gonna be kind of nice. Um,

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Speaker 1: we got a group of people, so we've got it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we did a cabin this year instead of trying to

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Speaker 1: you know, some of the reason this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: this is an Idaho hunt, like a central Ish Idaho hunt.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a new area for me as far

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Speaker 1: gonna want to travel more, like put more miles on

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Speaker 1: in the mornings, I want to be more mobile. I

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Speaker 1: haven't bear hunted like a ton, but I have shot

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Speaker 1: we've ever gone with, they're like, yeah, typically bear hunting

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Speaker 1: my I'm no, I'm no Joe bear hunter, but that's

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Speaker 1: been my experience too. Um, some places it's like very

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Speaker 1: like to the extreme where you're like, don't even go

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Speaker 1: sure seems like that lasts two three hours. Is that's

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Speaker 1: think there's like the best spot for a bear to

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Speaker 1: come out for. Yeah, that lasts little bit so that

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Speaker 1: it never It's like it's not like it's gonna hurt

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Speaker 1: especially if you're if you're coming into June. You're going

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Speaker 1: in June, right, Yep, you're within a couple three weeks

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Speaker 1: of the long ass days and on those kind of hunts,

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Speaker 1: you have to balance, you know, and be trained up

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Speaker 1: you know, well I don't want to say for no reason,

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the optics you have on your list.

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Speaker 1: Sig Zulu nine eleven by forty five's you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the stuffed in the FHF fob Buyo Harness, which is

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Speaker 1: super nice, super comfy. If you haven't checked that out,

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Speaker 1: check it out. You got the sig Oscar eight eighty

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Speaker 1: millimeter spotting scope. You're gonna have that on top of

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Speaker 1: a h Slick six twenty four tripod with the outdoorsman's

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Speaker 1: pan head. Of course you got the Outdoorsman's bino adapter

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Speaker 1: for your tripod, and um, the all in digi sculping

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Speaker 1: set up for doing something digi sculping. Talk me through, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page with you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously tripod mounted optics for finding h critters, But what

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Speaker 1: um is your Do you use the sculpe more for

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Speaker 1: finding the bears or more for judging bears? More for

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Speaker 1: judging bears? For me, they are hard things to judge

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Speaker 1: if you want to shoot a nice one, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I think being able to zoom in tight and get

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Speaker 1: bodily features. Um, it's worth carrying the scope for me.

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Speaker 1: And honestly it's just hard for me to leave a

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Speaker 1: spotting scope behind. I just like being able to uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, even deer or elk or whatever else you've

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Speaker 1: I like doing that. But yeah, moly, mostly scary carrying

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Speaker 1: the scope to h to judge them, and then I

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Speaker 1: mean even some you know, sometimes at long distances, it's

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Speaker 1: nice just having the scope to to glass around and

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Speaker 1: pick out some things in a discent hillside. Yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know some people do it. Jason Phelps does that

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch man, And I just I've tried it,

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Speaker 1: and or like want to try to punch through the shoulder.

427
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: I just want to get lungs, so in that area

428
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: of the body, I feel like it's pretty soft. You know.

429
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: There's like a lot of game and fish websites and

430
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: such like their minimums. What they recommend is like a

431
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: thousand foot pounds energy for a bear at the target,

432
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: and I'm good with that basically out to five hundred yards.

433
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: I think at four hundred yards, I'm like thirteen hundred

434
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: foot pounds. So, um, I feel like if I can

435
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: keep four hundred and in get a good broadside shot

436
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: that I don't have any troubles. I won't have any

437
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 1: troubles with that. And a good bullet. That Accubond is

438
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: good bullet and has been a good bullet for me.

439
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: I've killed a few deer with it, and um, yeah,

440
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about it. Yeah, I love that

441
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty grain Nausler accubond in the six five.

442
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: I used to pack two hundred grain accubons into a

443
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: three hundred Winchester shortmag and that was my elk killing

444
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: gun for quite a few years. And uh yeah, I

445
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: always had great luck with the accubon. Yeah. Well, how

446
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: do you feel on that creed More? Yeah, you know, um,

447
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: I know there's talk out there that people are saying

448
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: it's not enough gun for certain critters, and you know

449
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: it's a little bit puny. Um. You know again, you

450
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: got to know the you got. You have to have

451
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: your expectations set properly. You gotta know your limitations. Like

452
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: you just said, like you know, how many footpounds you

453
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: have at four hundred yards, sounds like you're gonna, you know,

454
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: kill him is dead there. You know that bullet as

455
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: anything else. So yeah, I think it's plenty. I think

456
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: I've only shot deer sized well with the six five

457
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: creed More. Yes, but I've shot three giant cow elk

458
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: with a six five fifty five swee, which is even

459
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: a little bit slower than the six five creed More.

460
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: But same bullets, you know, same same weight and bullets

461
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: and have had amazing results, Like two hundred fifty yards

462
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: giant cow elk takes three steps, tips over and is dead.

463
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think you'll be good. Depends,

464
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: like I said, it's expectations. Man, do you want to

465
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, is it gonna knock that bear off its feet?

466
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: Probably not? If you're looking for that, Yeah, you probably

467
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: need to go to three hundred. Um, you know, just

468
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: just you know, hit him with some more weight. But

469
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: I think that. Man, I sure like shooting these a

470
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: little bit lighter calibers because they're just easier to shoot.

471
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: I can, especially now run in a side islandser I

472
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: can stay in my sculpe and watch that bullet hit.

473
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be way better and way faster on

474
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: a follow up shot if needed. Um. Yeah, like it? Yeah,

475
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: all right, you're you're topping it with a sig whiskey

476
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: six three to eighteen scope. Um, any any particular reason

477
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: you picked that one? Man? It's I used it on

478
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: my sheep hunt last or two years ago, and I've

479
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: used it like a bit since. And man, it's just

480
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: like it's a it's a compact scope, it's twenty three ounces,

481
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: it has like it hasn't exposed turret, which I like. Um.

482
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: I like being able to dial and has a more

483
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: compact turret, doesn't stick up as much as some some

484
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: other ones. UM, So that's one reason I like it too.

485
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: And it just has performed really well for me. Seems

486
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: to be durable. Um, the dialing is pretty positive. So yeah,

487
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: so I about that one. I think the three to

488
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: eighteen I really like that that range of power for

489
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: a scope, like three power, you can really turn it down,

490
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: like really widen your field of view up and just

491
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: if you're in tight on something or if you just

492
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: need to find something like just trying to acquire some

493
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: backing out, being able to back that far out is nice.

494
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: And then the eighteen is a sweet spot too. I

495
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: think like that eighteen to twenty power right in there

496
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: has been a sweet spot for me. I grew up

497
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: on three to nine's and I just think you bump

498
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: up that power a bit to like a fifteen or twenty,

499
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: you can just be so much more precise on your

500
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: shot with a higher power and you don't always have

501
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: to use all the power too. So that's something I

502
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: like about. Oh No, and like we learned maybe we

503
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: haven't talked about this than anybody yet. But in the

504
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: past talking to the optics guys. You know, it's like

505
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: anything at max you know, power on a scope. It's

506
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: just like redlining your car, right, Can it do that? Yes?

507
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Is it going to perform optimum? No? So if you

508
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: have an eighteen or twenty top end, then at twelve

509
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: and fifteen you've got this amazing you know, clear quality,

510
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, clear picture. Everything's great. We're on three to nine.

511
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Once you you know, jam it all the way to nine,

512
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: you're sort of at the the upper end of its

513
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: capabilities and you're starting to lose you know, focus, light

514
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: gathering capabilities. It's just not performing, you know, at its optimum.

515
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a reason right there to you know,

516
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: even though you might never dial to twenty, it's good

517
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: to have that upper end there so that at fifteen

518
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: you know you've got you've got an amazing uh picture,

519
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you're looking. Yeah it short action precision two roundholder.

520
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: I've seen this thing on your rifles. Six the side

521
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: of your rifle. You stick two rounds in there, and um,

522
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: I want you to explain why you why you run

523
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: that more like a just in case I need two rounds. Like,

524
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: if you lose a magazine or something, you can single

525
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: feed those two. Um, I can't. I can't imagine where. Yeah,

526
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: if you have a five round magazine, I can't imagine

527
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: where I need more than five for anything. But um,

528
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: a couple of times, Kyle Hunting, I have like not

529
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: refilled my mag and I've had two and like shot

530
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: a couple of times and got another shot and been

531
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: like oh shit and been able to pull around out

532
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: of that and just single feed it. Um it's I

533
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: don't know, it's probably a little overkill. Um it kind

534
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: of looks cool on the side of that thing, but uh,

535
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I mean, here's a question, how

536
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: many how many when you go on this day hunt

537
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: for bears? How many cartridges are you carrying? Total? I

538
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: would probably just have a five round bag, five plus

539
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: the two though, yeah, and nothing in your pack? No, Yeah,

540
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: So you're going in seven And I think that like

541
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: most of us, I think usually fall in that seven

542
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: to ten range of you know, how many you're packing

543
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: around with you? And yeah, it's like, where are you

544
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna put those two rounds? You could put them in

545
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: your pocket, but I hate having two or three rounds

546
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: jingle jangling around in my pocket. Yeah. Um, it's annoying,

547
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: it's noisy, it's making noise. You're not being stealth, uh

548
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: so Yeah, having a little slick spot like that. Um. Like,

549
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: I've had those stock packs in the past that have

550
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: the it's like a pocket, but on the inside your

551
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: pocket it's got the little AMMO sleeves and uh I

552
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: like that set up too, and kind of for the

553
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: same reason. You know all your ammos there. If you

554
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: do run through your five rounds in your mag, then

555
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: you know you can refill right there. You don't have

556
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden go, oh my gosh, where

557
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: where did I put those into my pack? What pocket

558
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: are they in? Yeah, don't use them very often, but

559
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: when you need them, you're really gonna need them. Type

560
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: of a deal. Yeah. You also had on your list

561
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: FHF gun case strapped to the back of the pickup seats.

562
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Have you run that back there yet? Yeah, dude, I

563
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: like a lot. Yeah, I've got the really short one.

564
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: I remember how long that one is. But it's the

565
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: short one and it fits the cross perfect as long

566
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: as you don't have like a can on it or something. Yeah,

567
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: it's just something you really don't think about. I'm used

568
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: to just you know, like a like a cheap, cheap

569
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: gun case. But if just the amount of things you

570
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: can do with that fh one is um pretty nice.

571
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Having it on the back of your seats, gets it

572
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: off the floor. People can sit in the back seats.

573
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about it so much. Um. Yeah,

574
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: it's been nice. Yeah, that was my question because I

575
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: haven't set up mine yet in the back of the truck.

576
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: But is there still enough room where you could sit

577
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: in the backseat and that thing's not going to be

578
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: up in your grill? Yeah, if you were super tall,

579
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: I think that like your knees could hit it. Um,

580
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: but I I wouldn't. Um suppose it depends how big

581
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: your backseat is too. Um yeah, but yeah it's a

582
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: good good product for sure, all right. Clothes Yeah, pretty

583
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: standard for Meum, the Wick hoodie, the Wick boot top

584
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: bottoms to match it, and then core get Foundry pants.

585
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: Pretty standard, the Origin hoodie, the Catalyst jacket. One thing

586
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: about the Catalyst jacket. A lot of some people, for

587
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: like back country scenarios, don't believe in soft shells for

588
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: some reason. Um, But in that early, Like we were

589
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: talking about, you don't really know what you're gonna get weather.

590
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: A lot of times it's just kind of like jury cold,

591
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: might be windy. Having that catalyst jacket over the top

592
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: of a fleece when you're like walking around on ridges,

593
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: it can just be super comfortable. I just really like

594
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: that setup. Then I'm gonna be taking a jacket. I'm

595
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: just gonna we got told that we could tease it

596
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: out a little bit. There's a new jacket that's basically

597
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: combining a puffy jacket with a rain jacket that's gonna

598
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: be coming out and I think that is like a

599
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: perfect jacket for this kind of situation where you're gonna

600
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: be glassing a lot, sitting, you're gonna be on a ridge.

601
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: For sure, want to have a puffy jacket with you

602
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: more than like you're probably gonna need a rain jacket.

603
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: And with that, with that setup, just having like a

604
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: rain jacket doesn't matter if it's this one or just

605
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: a rain jacket in general, it's your it's windproof also,

606
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: so even if it's not raining it's super windy, I

607
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: like throwing a rain jacket on. And so when you

608
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: take this combo puffy rain gear. You're not taking rain

609
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: gear and or a rain jacket, and you're not taking

610
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: any other puffy for insulation. Your insulation at that point

611
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: just gonna be that jacket. And then you're yeah, origin hoodie.

612
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Really it's gonna be it yea, and what else what

613
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: else you got on there? I think if the un

614
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring the lunka padre pants, the puffy pants.

615
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: That's something that is kind of like a floating thing

616
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: in my pack that I could just leave in the vehicle.

617
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: If it's tends to be like warmer in the afternoon, Um,

618
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: I could leave out for sure, Almond rain pants. Man. Again, like,

619
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: even if it's not going to rain a lot of

620
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: times it's just wet wherever you're sitting, being able to

621
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: throw rain pants on and keep dry is like huge

622
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: keeps the wind cut off. You M that's great. Usually

623
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: take a couple pairs of gloves with me catalysts gloves

624
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: and then the heavier alpine gloves. UM, I like that

625
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: combo or just having those two with me. Um furnace

626
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: beanie just regular ball cap. And then for boots, those

627
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: Crispy Bristol pro boots that they have two hundred grams

628
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: of insulation in them, and that's a pretty sweet spot

629
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: for me. So it's kind of my clothing layout. And

630
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: just like you're saying before, you could take this thing

631
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: and go LK hunting with it, like, there's not much

632
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: that would change in that, right, Yeah, I think the

633
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: only yeah, the only thing that, yeah, it might change.

634
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was going backpacking, I don't

635
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: know if i'd be any lighter or heavier. I gotta

636
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: look at my list, but yeah, I think you can

637
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: go a little bit heavier on a day hunt, right

638
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: because you know you're you know, going in, coming out,

639
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: and it's not like you gonna have to carry that

640
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: stuff for days on end. Yeah. I think maybe for

641
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: like a backpack hunt, I might for multiple nights of

642
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: backpack hunting, I might not take a catalyst jacket. Um.

643
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty much it I think for me. All right. Uh,

644
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: some smaller items in reach Mini two for sure, Statellite

645
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: communications emergencies, your Petzel active core head lamp or golly

646
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: trek and polls tarp yep. Yeah, nine ounces nine by

647
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: five Um, that I think is a great call man

648
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: on a bear hunt, Like the conditions we've been describing

649
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: it so nice to have a little tarp set up

650
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: a little you know, you get yourself a nice glassing location,

651
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: and then if you have that tarp, it's like, no

652
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: matter what blows in, you're in there staying comfy. And

653
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: even if you have rain gear, it's like even the

654
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: best rain gear after a while it starts to wed out.

655
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's better to keep all that gear dry.

656
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Um and and yeah, it's like always much better to

657
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: spend into weather out of storm under a tarp that weighs,

658
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, just over a half a pound versus just

659
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: standing there under a tree, you know, taking it on

660
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: your rain jacket. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I love that

661
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: thing to just simply block wind like it can just

662
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: do wonders. I usually bring a coffee kit with me

663
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: for the days i've been. Last year I bought MSR

664
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: Pocket Rocket Deluxe and uh I got a Tokes five

665
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: fifty milliter cup. The total weight of both those things

666
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: is like six ounces, and that's unreal, oh man. I

667
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: went from a system that probably weighed maybe twelve to that,

668
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: and it just seems like a world of difference, and

669
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: so definitely not scared to take to carry that with me. Yeah.

670
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: I also like I threw on my list a little

671
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: ten ounce mug like the Yeddy ones. One one reason

672
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: I like though, is because like that little Tokes five

673
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: fifty meal cup. It like the thing it's not paper thin,

674
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: but it's like really thin, and it gets cold like instantly.

675
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: So if you don't just want to feel like you

676
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: have to chug your your coffee or tea or whatever, um,

677
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: having somewhat of an insulated cup, it's been really nice.

678
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: And I would say that's like more of a thing

679
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: that I would bring if I was hunting with other people. Um,

680
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: but definitely an insulated cup of some kind over those

681
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: little stainless ones, Like they just get cold so fast. Yeah,

682
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: it's kind of I'm guessing I don't know, I've never

683
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: seen a Tokes cup, but I'm guessing it's it's probably

684
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: a titanium yeah, yeah, yeah, they also make a stainless one.

685
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: I don't remember which one I have, but yeah, they're

686
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: so thin that. The other problem with him is too

687
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: is like when the stuff is hot in there, that

688
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: the titanium or whatever it is, stainless steel. Um, they're

689
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: like super conductors and so you get your hot coffee

690
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: and then you put your lips to that to that

691
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: cup and just burns you. You know, it's wicked. Yeah.

692
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't feel like there's like the perfect

693
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: solution yet to that, because the only time I like

694
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: skip carrying a little insulated mug, and I still just

695
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: use like an old school ARII plastic one if it's

696
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be warm enough where I'm like, you know what,

697
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm not really that interested in drinking hot stuff. The

698
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: only reason I have the pot and the stove is

699
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: to for really for cooking dinners, you know, for just

700
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: rehydrating meals, um. You know. Then I'll then I'll skip it,

701
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, and if I want, I can drink some

702
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: lukewarm water, you know, if if I want to make

703
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: that into tea or whatever. But yeah, otherwise, if you're

704
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: gonna sit around and enjoy a hot drink, you might

705
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: as well just bring that little insulated cup with Yeah. Yeah,

706
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: it does make it a little nicer climate. Air sitting pad.

707
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: Gotta have one of those, because you're just gonna be

708
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: sitting there pound in the glass. Yeah, yeah, I gotta

709
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: have it. Usually I use just like I think most

710
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: people use, like those thermores little like phone pads. But

711
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: I got this little climate. It's like just a blow

712
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: up little air pad like seat, man, so nice. It

713
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: cannot be that durable, but I've had it for three

714
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: seasons now, using it kind of on and off, and

715
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: it's been good for me. Man. I had a therm

716
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: arrest one of those, and it just never seemed to

717
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: quite hold air air as well as I wanted to.

718
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: Maybe they've prob I'm sure they've got made it better

719
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: because this thing's old. There's things at least ten fifteen

720
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: years old. So nothing against therm Arrest. They make great products,

721
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: but um, I just feel like putting that much pressure

722
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: on the air, you know, it could be the difference

723
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: just in our size. You know, I'm putting a lot

724
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: more pressure being a two hundred pound person than you are.

725
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: But you who um all right? Our Galli game bag set,

726
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: the Montana Knife Company, Stone goat knife, and an outdoor

727
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: edge everyday Carrie knife. Always good to have two knives

728
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: well back up, I think so yeah, And having like

729
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: that having a fixed blade and then having a replaceable

730
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: blade is kind of nice. And that replaceable blade that

731
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: EDC one, I just like that is just the knife

732
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: that I carry my pocket knife for the back country.

733
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: So mum, then you got a first aid kit and

734
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: um some other little essentials like fire starter, tenacious tape

735
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: for fixing gear, three standard stuff. I would say, yeah, turnique, Yeah,

736
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: stuff you just got to have with you at all times. Yeah.

737
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: What do you carry all that stuff in? Now? Do

738
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: you have like a is it just a like a

739
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: synergy bag from FHFF or do you have one of

740
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: those organizer deals? It is just a synergy a little

741
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: synergy bag. Yeah, I U. I take that back. I

742
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: had it in a Synergy bag and then I started

743
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: carrying it one thing. Some stuff like that is like

744
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: I have a lot of stuff in the little synergy

745
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: bags and then they all look the same to every

746
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: to anybody else is trying to get my pack. So yea,

747
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: if some ever happened and somebody else was trying to

748
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: find my first aid kid, they'd be rummaging through some stuff.

749
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: And actually Leah brought it up. She's like, something ever

750
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: happened to you, I'd be like rummaging through all this

751
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: stuff trying to figure out where the hell your first

752
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: aid kid is. Um, so I just got a little

753
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: sea the summit, like one of those tiny little rolltop

754
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: dry bags. I got a red one and I wrote

755
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: first Aid on it in marker. There you go. So

756
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: that's where that stuff lives now. But now you know,

757
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: if you ever run into Jordan, she's down in the

758
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: back country, red red package in her backpack has first

759
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: aid gear And yeah, yeah it does all right, total packway,

760
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: extra clothing and binoculars and pistol in there, no rifle,

761
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: no water in there. And yet twenty four pounds. I

762
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: feel like that's pretty good, man, especially considering all the

763
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: optics that you're that you're packing in there. That's the

764
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: heavy stuff, man. Yeah, twenty four pounds. You add add

765
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: three liters of water in there, you're about thirty. So

766
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I look back through that list

767
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: and I don't know what I would take out, you know,

768
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: even my coffee. It's like you're gonna save ten ounces

769
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: with a if you have a fuel canister. You know.

770
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's some things I could skim

771
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: down on, but I feel pretty good about it. A

772
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: couple thoughts on that one ounces add up to pounds,

773
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: pounds add up to pain. But again being on day

774
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: hunt you know, you can have the ability to adjust

775
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: every evening, maybe even mid today if you happen to

776
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: be back at the truck mid day. It happened. And

777
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: it's like I always tell everybody, and I do it myself.

778
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: It's like the first hunt of the year if it's

779
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: been a while, I'm a little bit heavy. And after

780
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: that first day out and you're back at camp, like

781
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: you very quickly start going through there and be like, oh,

782
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't make coffee today. It's the weather.

783
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to change the next two days. Like

784
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: leaving the coffee back, you know, or you know what,

785
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: never took that soft shell out of the pack, had

786
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: plenty with me, with the other layers I had, you know,

787
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: it's gone, and all of a sudden, like it just

788
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: seems like every hunt I go on. As the hunt progresses,

789
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, I can I think I'll just

790
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: do with one knife, you know, yeah, And like, because

791
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, it really does. When you take a couple

792
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: things here and there drop them out, all of a sudden,

793
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: you went from twenty four pounds down to twenty you know,

794
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe even under, and it makes a difference. And against

795
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: that fine balance. I think between having the stuff to

796
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: keep you comfortable and keep you out there, but not

797
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: carrying so much that you're also wearing yourself out that

798
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: could cause you to be tired and make it harder

799
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: to stay out there. All good points. Anything you'd add

800
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: to the whole list is this how far I have

801
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: I've gotten with my bear hunt gear list? And again

802
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: it's that special little list I was talking about where

803
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: it's it's not all of the hunting stuff that Jordan

804
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: just talked about, but these are specifically like just small.

805
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: They don't have to be small, I guess, but just

806
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: specific items that I feel like I would really gain

807
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: an advantage by having these with me on a bear home. Okay,

808
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: Number one already talked about it as a book, but

809
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: I wrote down reading materials upload to phone. It's like

810
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: these days it's very easy to upload a book to

811
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: a phone, so or you can probably even you know,

812
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: download your favorite magazine so you don't have to be

813
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: carrying the weight of an extra book. You've got reading

814
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: material in there. I have sunflower seeds on there. And

815
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: when Jordan had a list of snacks, I just I

816
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: just breezed over it. Yeah, but some of our seeds

817
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: are it's not even I mean, sure you're getting some

818
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: salt out of it. Maybe there's a few calories too,

819
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: but it's one of those things should be right there.

820
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: I should have chewing gum on there too. But I

821
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: feel like on these bear hunts, long days and there's

822
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: combs of time where everybody's gonna fight a little bit

823
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: of boredom, and you can bust out a bag of

824
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: sunflower seeds and all of a sudden, everybody's you know,

825
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: spitting shells around and getting some salt in and a

826
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: nice way to pass. Even if it's just you know,

827
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes, it gets you closer to the magic

828
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: hour umbrella. You know, I don't know if I would

829
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: go umbrella and tart probably, but it's a thought. These days,

830
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: you can get some incredibly light umbrellas. And again even

831
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: with ice rang gear. Man, if you're like really gonna

832
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: experience a heavy deluge, like pop that thing up and

833
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: you can keep you know, it's like it's basically like

834
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: just having a little mini tarp ball sun boom, just

835
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, in a second, popped up keeping your gear dry.

836
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times we have cameras and

837
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: stuff with us. You can pop that up and still

838
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: be working with something and getting it tucked away. Um

839
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: and uh so yeah, umbrella could be cool. And then

840
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: a predator call, um, you know, the dying jack rabbit

841
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Uh, you know, it's

842
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: just that kind of standard predator call. If you have

843
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: a bear that you know goes into timber on you,

844
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: you're within range and and you're thinking, man, be sure nice,

845
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: I can maybe get him back out, like a predator call,

846
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: can get that bear to stick his nose back out

847
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Speaker 1: of the timber and give you another opportunity for a shot. Man,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. Yeah, good one. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: not blowing on one of those things in grizz country. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if I know there's not a grizz, or at

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Speaker 1: least I think there's not a grizz within you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty hundred miles. Uh. I like I like rocking the

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Speaker 1: predator call. Wait that rounds me out? Nice list. I

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Speaker 1: hope you hope, you hope you get a Have you

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Speaker 1: killed a bear before? Killed one bear? One bear? I

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Speaker 1: yet to get one. Did you? You went with Clay

857
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago? Yeah, yeah, play put me

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Speaker 1: on a nice one and I did not make a

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Speaker 1: good shot. He was going to disappear in the canyon

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Speaker 1: bottom and you know, I took a strong quarter in

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Speaker 1: two shot and I think I just missed him a

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Speaker 1: little bit, right, I mean he's still you can watch

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Speaker 1: there's a video of it. You can watch Clay and

864
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: I go bear hunting and you can see I hit him.

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Speaker 1: But I think I pretty much like shot through his

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Speaker 1: um front left leg um, but I don't think I entered,

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Speaker 1: you know, the body cavity, kind of like he definitely

868
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Speaker 1: felt it. He picks up his leg, runs off, but

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Speaker 1: zero to no blood. You know, we've we did everything

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Speaker 1: we could. But anyways, um and then yeah, I spent

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Speaker 1: I spent a solid five six days hunting last year

872
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Speaker 1: or two for a bear. Saw a bunch of bears.

873
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Speaker 1: I think we saw like nine bears, but just not

874
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Speaker 1: the one, um, you know, not just not a mature bore.

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Speaker 1: So cool. Yeah, I'm excited to go this spring too.

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Speaker 1: I'm going out with Corey Calkins. He's uh. I like

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Speaker 1: hunting with these X hunting guides, especially when you get

878
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: to hunt in the state they used to guide in

879
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: because they usually have a couple of spots and a

880
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: couple of tricks up there. Yeah I never hurt. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to get after it. Give a hell of

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Speaker 1: a new area. Sweet sweet. All right, well, um, for

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