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Speaker 1: If you're listening to the Ravens Press Pass podcast. Today,

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to hear from Ravens Director of

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Speaker 1: Player Personnel Joe Ortiz. He held a session with local

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Speaker 1: reporters breaking down some film of the Ravens six drafted prospects,

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Speaker 1: giving us his perspective on what he likes about this class,

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Speaker 1: and he answered some questions from the media about this

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Speaker 1: draft class and the impact they could have on the

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Speaker 1: team this year.

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Speaker 2: Can you describe the pressure building up into a draft

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Speaker 2: where you had so few picks? Where is that How

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Speaker 2: much different that when you got ten or eleven like

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Speaker 2: you had in some of.

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Speaker 3: The Yeah, I guess you can create the pressure. It's

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Speaker 3: the best way for me to put it. But I

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Speaker 3: think all I think every year we have we put

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Speaker 3: that pressure on ourselves, like we want to you want

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Speaker 3: to get every pick right, you really do, and when

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Speaker 3: you have less, it's like, all right, we got it.

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Speaker 3: We we do. We got to nail every one of

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Speaker 3: these picks. And uh, but I don't think it really.

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Speaker 3: We really don't change our approach. We don't do things

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Speaker 3: always trying to be thorough, be detailed, have all the

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Speaker 3: information and make the best decision. But you definitely I

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Speaker 3: think post draft, like, well, you know, you have less

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Speaker 3: at bats, so you better get more, you better have

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Speaker 3: a better batting average. You know, you feel more pressure

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Speaker 3: that way. But I think it's more post draft. You know,

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Speaker 3: we wanted to be great with this draft, and we

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Speaker 3: wanted to nail everyone, but we're like that when we

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Speaker 3: had eleven picks last year. You want to get them all, right,

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Speaker 3: But there's probably a little bit more pressure, I guess

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Speaker 3: because you have less swings at the plate.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like in a lot of pre draft and

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Speaker 4: it seems like this year, a lot of players that.

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Speaker 3: Some people have really high, you know, a little bit lower.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a feeling of whether they would be

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Speaker 4: there when you picked, or you're kind of surprised that

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Speaker 3: You thought he could be He was certainly one of

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Speaker 3: the players that all our scouts looked at of the

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Speaker 3: guys that we thought could be there. Was I shocked

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Speaker 3: that he was there? No, I wasn't. Did I think

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Speaker 3: he could have gone before we picked? Absolutely? And again,

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Speaker 3: the way the receiver run was last year and the

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Speaker 3: amount of resources that have been poured into the position.

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Speaker 3: The fact that the run didn't start till write around

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Speaker 3: when we were picking, that actually surprised me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know, so who went first. That wouldn't have surprised

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Speaker 3: me that because I think everyone if you asked everyone

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Speaker 3: from February to the draft to shake him up in

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Speaker 3: a cup and pour them out, you're going to get

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Speaker 3: different orders every single time, you know. But I thought

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Speaker 3: that the run might start a little earlier, just because

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Speaker 3: of the way the league is treating the position. Now,

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Speaker 3: BC maybe didn't use say that you were.

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Speaker 5: Enough of that you were hoping to see on safe

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Speaker 3: It not really know they I mean they used him

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Speaker 3: and so they they tried to get him the ball,

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Speaker 3: they put it like I said, they had him out wide,

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Speaker 3: the backfield. They tried to use him on a double pass.

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Speaker 3: He aboarded and took it in on his own. But no,

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I you know, he he when

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Speaker 3: overuse him. Maybe on as a punt returner, but he

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Speaker 3: shows the ability to catch punts and certainly look really

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Speaker 5: So all that, I think you're just looking at his

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Speaker 5: statistical pression. I think that freshman year he was getting

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Speaker 3: Was that just you know, him.

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Speaker 5: Maybe leveling up as a receiver and then you know,

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Speaker 3: More that that downfield. Yeah, it's probably just h him

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Speaker 3: him growing as a receiver. I would think if you

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Speaker 3: You got a senior junior that you trust, and he

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Speaker 3: got the young guy that's a playmaker. Let's get the

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Speaker 3: the seniors or the juniors that we get. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's probably them, just like let's get him. Just find

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Speaker 3: a lot of college coaches do that when they get

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Speaker 3: a player like Zay, like just find a way to

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Speaker 3: get it to him and then let him grow into

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Speaker 6: You know, he played with Kenny Pickett and then he

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Speaker 6: transferred to Playland. Probably guys gonna be the wonder Ball

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Speaker 6: pick next year with Zay? Did you see more upside

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Speaker 6: there because he wasn't playing with the quarterback? You know,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be most likely first round picking what

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Speaker 6: he can become in an NFL offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, I think when you look

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Speaker 3: number one picks playing quarterback in college football. You know,

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Speaker 3: so they are what their quarterbacks are what they are.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think you look at a receiver,

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Speaker 3: how are they running routes? How are they catching the ball?

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Speaker 3: You know, is the ball on target? Nope? It wasn't

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Speaker 3: on target there, you know. And but man, he got open.

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Speaker 3: He can separate, he can you know, when the ball

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Speaker 3: him independent sometimes scheme is probably more a player his

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Speaker 3: production can be affected more by skiing than necessarily who

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Speaker 3: the quarterback is. Now certainly I can think of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: and I can think of players again without naming names,

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Speaker 3: since this is on the record, that man, they left

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Speaker 3: there's been some receivers that might have another three hundred

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Speaker 3: cost of those, you know, but that's that's the nature

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Speaker 3: he's wide open, he got deep, just got overthrown, you know,

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Speaker 5: Should have to have been doing what you guys ultimately

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Speaker 5: us through how that played out, because something you guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, it's just it was like it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things where we only have six picks

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Speaker 3: guy we'd consider and uh and so it was talked

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Speaker 3: medical concern that we'll still consider taking. And it just

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Speaker 3: got to the point where we came down here, had

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Speaker 3: the discussion with you guys, had the press conference with

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Speaker 3: day three. You know, if we got enough, if we

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Speaker 3: able to get back in. When we got back up

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Speaker 3: there were some teams with multiple picks that frankly didn't

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Speaker 3: want to use all of them, and we were able

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Speaker 3: to trade next year six for them, and so it

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Speaker 3: just kind of worked out great, you know, But don't

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Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't one of those things where like

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Speaker 3: we're definitely doing it. It was, you know, just if

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Speaker 7: Process question with Simpson, you're sitting there in the third late.

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Speaker 7: I know Eric in the past has been moaned not

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Speaker 7: have the second round pick, and how difficult that week

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Speaker 7: is and you're seeing these guys fall off the board.

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Speaker 3: How difficult is it just to.

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Speaker 7: Kind of be patient to think that one guy you

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Speaker 7: there and when is there a lot of discussion in

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Speaker 7: that case, but hey, maybe we should move up to

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Speaker 7: get this guy or we're gonna be left blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think in some ears, when it's one

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Speaker 3: when we started the third there were still a good

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Speaker 3: and then they literally just probably fifteen picks away. They

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Speaker 3: going to be there, you know, you just because you're

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Speaker 3: in the third round. There's no like, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: can happen. You could lose all three picks, but that's

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Speaker 3: the way it worked out. Trenton was it, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's just like one guy who's kind of sitting out.

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Speaker 3: But I think I've learned personally in terms of patients,

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Speaker 3: like the draft is the draft, you know, and you're

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Speaker 3: gonna be sitting there and a guy you really hope

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Speaker 3: just got to be ready to take the next one.

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Speaker 3: That just kind of another process question you guys.

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Speaker 8: Maybe I told us this, like give guys round grades

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Speaker 8: so that if you are there in the third round

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Speaker 8: and there was literally no guys with a third round grade,

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Speaker 8: then you would be compelled to trade into the fourth

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Speaker 3: And is that how you evaluate that? Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 3: put great round grades on players. We put just a

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Speaker 3: number grade on a player. Yeah, it's just you know,

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Speaker 3: typically this grade. You know, again, we stack it, you know,

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Speaker 3: uses the room to end his opinion obviously to stack

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Speaker 3: the board. But then I have my own individual ranking.

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Speaker 3: So if Eric asks me, would you take a player

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Speaker 3: at eighty four at thirty six? Doesn't matter if he's

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Speaker 3: in my top thirty six. And Eric asked me, would

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Speaker 3: you take him at thirty six? And I say, no,

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Speaker 3: Well who else am I going to take? You know?

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Ravens Press Pass podcasts, This is

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Speaker 1: a conversation with Joe or t Is, the Ravens director

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Speaker 6: With I'm curious, have you seen more talent coming out

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Speaker 3: We study stuff like that, you know, and without saying anything,

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Speaker 1: players to the Ravens drafted and this year's class. Also,

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Speaker 1: Lounge podcast feed. We actually sat down with Ravens gentleal

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Speaker 1: So go ahead and check that out and the Lounge

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Speaker 1: podcast feed. Make sure that you subscribe to both. These

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Speaker 1: feeds also lead a rating and a review. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Talk with you again, Sid